*When milling logs with metal in them, you should install a metal cutting blade on the bandsaw. Metal cutting blades have smaller and finer teeth that are super hard. They will cut wood but at a much slower feed rate. But when you encounter metal, they will cut right through it easily. I hope this helps!*
Hey! “Dug” McClure and almost semi-pro metal detectorist here. Today’s equipment is sensitive, accurate, and cheap (relative to saw blades). An arena concert model scanning wand might help you a lot. Good luck when the boss man throws you the challenging work!
@@scottsoperthey probably should have gave it to the old man and let him figure it out and then teach the kids because we have one and it works perfectly fine
@@caseykelso1 Well it did not work in the video that Emerald and Jade have of it. Also in these comments someplace Emerald said it did not work for them.
Can you use a chain saw to cut the slab near the end of the cut where you hit the metal, then dig it out, and keep sawing? You can also use an old style slap hammer nail puller to help remove the metal.
Oh Em, at 6:14 please don't step inside the frame! If that log kicks back toward you, you're going to hospital with a bad fracture! Get two longer Cant Hooks and work from each side.
Agreed… Also being cautious with loose clothing / hair / jewelry around machinery, that’s never an option when it comes to accidents. Once you lose it, it’s gone forever…
The band blades that i buy from cook's will cut through as many as 17 of the 20penny nails before it needs a change out. The black streaks show up in pine, oak, sycamore, magnolia, whatever when there is an iron nail embedded for any length of time. A lag bolt will totally blow out whatever you are cutting with.
When we ran into steel, out came the chainsaw or skill saw with an exchange blade and cut the effected area, then you know what you are dealing with, fence lines were the worst, but you at least knew what you were dealing with.
Buy a course cut metal cutting blade. I work with heavy metal every day and they cut wood just as well. It's crazy we cut steel with a blade that looks like it cuts wood but it plows right thru metal feet thick. Slow your motor down and use water, keeps the teeth cool.
This wood looks good, I sure it will interest woodworkers. When I saw that victorious hand gesture, I realized that this cut was without any nail🙂. (Hi from Belarus. Harry Davidson).
thank you I love your episodes, shows, they are fun and well written ect, I think a lot of youtubers are learing to make movies documentetires ect, and yours are really good!
Just like my dog, when I'm working in the garden or shop, he brings his fetch ball and drops it into some of the most hilarious spots ... and demands I throw it. Stinker!
Do you have the capability to use carbide blades on this machine??? Or get a long carbide Sawzall blade so once you find metal you can use that device to cut through the metal and on the next pass just stop a couple inches short of the metal, cut through the metal with the Sawzall the continue with the band saw mill.
Doggy Dog is So Cool, bringing you guys gifts , love the way the little piece was left on the log you guys were working with (about 5:10ish) Mention her name evry now and then so we can get to know her to !!
You guys need to grab a halfway decent metal detector and use it to scan the logs. You should be able to find a nail 6 to 10 inches deep. You’ll have to scan the logs before they’re on the bed of the saw though because the steel rails will give you false readings.
$5 per board foot is a screaming deal!! Any wood worker would travel miles to get those boards. Sadly I am in Washington State on the far side of the country but I would love that wood ad love to meet you folks.
I'd sometimes cut contaminated wood with my lucas mill. If I had doubts, where staining or external indicators weren't showing anything, I'd run over the log before every cut with a mid range Garret metal detector. Saved my blades and temper many times over, just get to know it's limited depth capabilities in wood. Remove every slab after cutting, - the metal stain can show up long before you get to cutting depth. Someone commented earlier about carbide teeth - these aren't immune to metal and will chip and shatter with contact to anything more than soft fence wire.
A neat battery chainsaw(not that you can't rock a gas one) and cross cut the flitch just in front of where the blade is caught up. Easier to sharpen a 16" chain.
Purchase bi-metal saw blades to fun on the mill. The cut speed will be a lot slower, but I am sure with a bit of trial and error you cun find the right TPI.
Carbide tipped circular sawblade can cope with steel nails apart from masonry nails, depends what they got their hands on when hammering nails into the tree. Gaz UK.
You’d think some of their contacts from the Paul Bunyan show would be able to suggest a suitable metal detector for these type logs, since they cut logs with metal every now and then.
I upped the price this year from $5/bf to $6/bf and still selling strong. I had the center of one log that I had to use for firewood because I kept hitting metal. Definitely frustrating.
Can you get any metal cutting band saw blades to fit i wonder ? If so and you get a fairly coarse blade thats a compramise between cutting wood and cutting metal i wonder if it would manage to go slowly through the entire log ? Then as danrutz says just slow the blade down once you hit metal just until you get through it. He is right with coolant but for how little metal there is im sure thats overkill and more hassle than itd worth. No idea about wood milling just my thoughts for what they are worth !!
I use Diablo carbide blades on my skilsaw. Carbide changed the world for carpenters when it came out. I started life as a builder with blades that would get dull in a day, a week, or a month. My current blade has been running for o year and has hit steel more than once, still is ok. Worth it for walnut. You could also shorten the log when you find the steel. You need storage space, but good wood is prized even in small pieces- 3 foot sections of specially chosen thicknesses could be sold for premium wood over the internet and sent out UPS. How about cabinet makers that build small furniture, or do wainscotting? Blessings to you both. Please go to church on Sunday.
I think what they are using is blades that have been re-sharpened about as many times as they can be. They don't normally use carbide on this machine or the LT-40 that they had that uses the same blades if I remember correctly.
G,day Jade and Emerald from Sydney Australia. As a woodworker I really "get a lump" seeing Jade ripping walnut boards 😜 Dam pity about the nails in the log: I always wonder why they are so dang deep. The tree grows from the centre (the pith). So the FN nail should be under the bark? Are you both interested in flying planes? You got lots of forrest mountain, not great for smooth landings! 🛩️🇦🇺
What would be the risk of cutting that end off where you hit the metal a few times so could cut the rest of the log? Hopefully it is not a fence post !! I have seen that on the farm, where the fence post was there so long that the tree grew around it !!!
Hello Ladies, I saw this tip at a local sawmill, when you hit the metal and have beat up (1) blade STOP, then put a 12" carbide tipped reciprocating saw blade into the slot on both sides of the log and cut through the metal maybe? DIABLO makes those blades. Yes, if the metal is deeper in the log you may not hit the metal? Keep up the wonderful videos, you 2 are great, and your dog makes me laugh, great dog.
Those eyes . . . . and the two of you swimming ( different episode ) . I'm all fired up about milling walnut with metal in it ! My question is about the metal. Is it spikes hammered in, like EFers do, or totally different ?
Metal can be in trees for lots of reasons. One is like you pointed out, some people try to make it hard to mill lumber by putting in spikes. However trees grow up in fence lines on a farm and can have fence parts in them. People put nails and screws in trees for all kinds of "innocent" reasons: hanging a swing, putting up a no trespassing sign, putting up a wild life camera.....
Careful with the long hair ladies ! Also you want to wear at least eye protection ,those blades can fly apart if hitting steel on the wrong angle Happened to my dad and part went deep into his arm and he was lucky
I like the close ups and the video quality on this video. Great quality video, really liked it. I even got my Lumber Capital Log Yard Blue T-Shirt on :)
I would order some actual metal cutting blades for this known problem. It would be slow going on the cut because the teeth are small and would fill up with saw dust quickly but time wise it would be about the same as having to stop and change the blade frequently. We used blades that were twenty one feet long on an industrial saw so I know you can find them. Or buy bulk rolls of blade stock and a band welder and make your own. You can do it. Good luck.
If your changing blades then get a good bimetal blade , hit he metal , put bimetal blade on ,, cut thru the metal put wood blade back on , you know the drill.
why not use a chainsaw to crosscut thru the face cut (that's what I call the outside slab) and so probably exposing some or part of the metal and then maybe you can remove it and continue. Also everyone in the comments talks about carbide blades here. Are you all referring to Tungsten carbide blades which is what we call them here in Australia?
Hi girls, may i ask what may be a silly question?.....If you know there is metal in a log, then is it possible to use a hacksaw type blade???......Take care, and keepem coming.
Hey everybody, get yourselves your favorite bottle of hooch and take a shot for every comment or reply from (Clif Claven) Scott Soper. On second thought you might need two bottles. Your Welcome!
@@_Boregard_Rippy I went all the way down the list and opened all the comments. I then put in "SOPER" in the search field, and came up with 38 matches with his name. That was much earlier. There are probably a few more since then. I gave him the nick name "Cliff Claven" check out the old TV show "Cheers " He makes reading the comments irritating.LCLY ban him please.
You would think they have some kind of a bimetal blade that you could use. not optimal but when you get wood like this, you wouldn’t have to worry about ruining blades.
After thinking about this for a bit, I think that any log suspected of having enough metal to harm a saw should be sold at fire wood price,...at least.
*When milling logs with metal in them, you should install a metal cutting blade on the bandsaw. Metal cutting blades have smaller and finer teeth that are super hard. They will cut wood but at a much slower feed rate. But when you encounter metal, they will cut right through it easily. I hope this helps!*
Jade is the best. Peace and love to one and all
You girls are just drop dead gorgeous!!
@@pennt50 so that's what it's all about ? I'm slow on the uptake
@ What do you mean? I don’t understand.
@@JosephChopyak I don't think it's lecherous to give a compliment to two beautiful people.
Hey! “Dug” McClure and almost semi-pro metal detectorist here. Today’s equipment is sensitive, accurate, and cheap (relative to saw blades). An arena concert model scanning wand might help you a lot. Good luck when the boss man throws you the challenging work!
They did try that in the past but it did not work.
A subscriber already sent them one I don't know why they're not using it
@@scottsoperthey probably should have gave it to the old man and let him figure it out and then teach the kids because we have one and it works perfectly fine
@@caseykelso1 Well it did not work in the video that Emerald and Jade have of it. Also in these comments someplace Emerald said it did not work for them.
Can you use a chain saw to cut the slab near the end of the cut where you hit the metal, then dig it out, and keep sawing? You can also use an old style slap hammer nail puller to help remove the metal.
Oh Em, at 6:14 please don't step inside the frame! If that log kicks back toward you, you're going to hospital with a bad fracture! Get two longer Cant Hooks and work from each side.
Maybe that is a problem but I guess I feel that is not likely to happen in this case.
@@scottsoper No reason to take that chance when you have other options, freaky stuff happens.
Worried me too .
Agreed… Also being cautious with loose clothing / hair / jewelry around machinery, that’s never an option when it comes to accidents.
Once you lose it, it’s gone forever…
@@raybird7111unless you bleed out, then they have to bury you. Maybe in heaven your hand will grow back ? IDK
The band blades that i buy from cook's will cut through as many as 17 of the 20penny nails before it needs a change out. The black streaks show up in pine, oak, sycamore, magnolia, whatever when there is an iron nail embedded for any length of time. A lag bolt will totally blow out whatever you are cutting with.
... and bloody Ardox nails! They'll eat your blades.
The dog and her sticks are a trip man. She waits so patiently for someone to throw it.
I would bet it was a fence wire. The two most beautiful sawyers I've ever seen. Excellent job ladies thank you for sharing.👍❤️❤️
@DennisHinkle yep, Fence row trees usually are big, but have Tramp Metal in them. Also have sign nails in them.
Love those two awesome ladies and their dog.
Hardest working dog in the lumber business! 😃
As a Machinist for 45+ years who has cut metal, most of my life. I recommend slowing down the speed of the blade. Lots of coolant. I hope this helps.
What coolant that won't stain the wood? Linseed oil possibly?
@daryl1768 The normal coolant they use but increased volume
Walnut is the premium choice of woodworking. Great mantel lumber. Life is a gamble. Hope this turns a profit.
You'd think they would make a metal cutting blade for iffy logs. It'd cut the wood A LOT SLOWER, but it's cut through the metal.
Tungsten tipped bandsaw blades are available,
Two of the hardest working and best looking loggers I have ever seen, keep up the great work may God bless you and your family keep it safe.
When we ran into steel, out came the chainsaw or skill saw with an exchange blade and cut the effected area, then you know what you are dealing with, fence lines were the worst, but you at least knew what you were dealing with.
Buy a course cut metal cutting blade. I work with heavy metal every day and they cut wood just as well. It's crazy we cut steel with a blade that looks like it cuts wood but it plows right thru metal feet thick. Slow your motor down and use water, keeps the teeth cool.
Love seeing both of you in the issue. Try and keep Jade in focus as well.
Jade out off focus was probably the sun glare. But it worked kinda like a camera filter. I think she looked gorgeous. 😊
You gals need to try carbide blades on these logs full of metal!
Ya can get some crazy looking boards from oak with metal or even place metal on fresh cut oak boards that are bit greenif can get Um cut green
Thanks!
😂 Always very enjoyable.. that shepherd is loving the scene 🪄
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Try a metal detector and mark the spot, then drill down to the metal and extract it.
Jade is awesome.
Emerald and Jade are awesome !!!
Will carbide blades cut the metal? Try slowing down the blade speed. Reduced Surface feet pe minute may help the blade cut metal without breaking.
This wood looks good, I sure it will interest woodworkers. When I saw that victorious hand gesture, I realized that this cut was without any nail🙂. (Hi from Belarus. Harry Davidson).
I found a small Meteorite stuck in a tree root just above ground,,i hope you guys find a few as well (thankx-4-uploading)
thank you I love your episodes, shows, they are fun and well written ect, I think a lot of youtubers are learing to make movies documentetires ect, and yours are really good!
Another great video from the hardest working girls in lumber milling today!
I just installed a firefox youtube auto-like extension simply because I like all the videos you make 😊 Very inspiring, thanks.
Just like my dog, when I'm working in the garden or shop, he brings his fetch ball and drops it into some of the most hilarious spots ... and demands I throw it. Stinker!
Use A bi-metal blade used for cutting metal., like I use in my band saw.
Woodmizer should make blades for this exact reason, like a giant Hacksaw!
Do you have the capability to use carbide blades on this machine??? Or get a long carbide Sawzall blade so once you find metal you can use that device to cut through the metal and on the next pass just stop a couple inches short of the metal, cut through the metal with the Sawzall the continue with the band saw mill.
Go for $7. You girls deserve it!
Doggy Dog is So Cool, bringing you guys gifts , love the way the little piece was left on the log you guys were working with (about 5:10ish) Mention her name evry now and then so we can get to know her to !!
Thallona is the Dog's name.
Tyvm! ❤❤❤😊😊😊
You guys need to grab a halfway decent metal detector and use it to scan the logs. You should be able to find a nail 6 to 10 inches deep. You’ll have to scan the logs before they’re on the bed of the saw though because the steel rails will give you false readings.
They used a metal detector in the past and it did not work. However it was likely not as good a detector as you are talking about.
Tak a 3.25 cut so any small nails u miss then resaw on a carbide tip resaw
Good stuff thanks!
Always take time to play fetch with your dog everything else is gotta wait
Sweethearts use 2 log turners or peaveys,Emerald and Jade
$5 per board foot is a screaming deal!! Any wood worker would travel miles to get those boards.
Sadly I am in Washington State on the far side of the country but I would love that wood ad love to meet you folks.
I'd sometimes cut contaminated wood with my lucas mill. If I had doubts, where staining or external indicators weren't showing anything, I'd run over the log before every cut with a mid range Garret metal detector. Saved my blades and temper many times over, just get to know it's limited depth capabilities in wood.
Remove every slab after cutting, - the metal stain can show up long before you get to cutting depth.
Someone commented earlier about carbide teeth - these aren't immune to metal and will chip and shatter with contact to anything more than soft fence wire.
How much is a Garret metal detector?
YOU CAN USE METTAL BLADE TO CUT GO LITTEL SLOVER BUT NOT BRAKE
A neat battery chainsaw(not that you can't rock a gas one) and cross cut the flitch just in front of where the blade is caught up. Easier to sharpen a 16" chain.
I wonder if sawing naily logs with say a 4/6 tooth steel cutting blade at slow metal cutting blade speeds and feed rates would work out.
Purchase bi-metal saw blades to fun on the mill. The cut speed will be a lot slower, but I am sure with a bit of trial and error you cun find the right TPI.
Carbide tipped circular sawblade can cope with steel nails apart from masonry nails, depends what they got their hands on when hammering nails into the tree.
Gaz UK.
Handheld metaldetector!
They tried that in a past video and it did not work.
@@scottsoper Buy a better one, and make the test away from other ironthings.
@@prebenRiisSrensen A better one may help
You’d think some of their contacts from the Paul Bunyan show would be able to suggest a suitable metal detector for these type logs, since they cut logs with metal every now and then.
Very nice
Jade you are amazing.
They sell pretty long sawzall blades
I upped the price this year from $5/bf to $6/bf and still selling strong. I had the center of one log that I had to use for firewood because I kept hitting metal. Definitely frustrating.
you must be able to get carbide tipped saw blades
What if you used a metal detector before sawing to determine where the metal is
Can you get any metal cutting band saw blades to fit i wonder ? If so and you get a fairly coarse blade thats a compramise between cutting wood and cutting metal i wonder if it would manage to go slowly through the entire log ? Then as danrutz says just slow the blade down once you hit metal just until you get through it. He is right with coolant but for how little metal there is im sure thats overkill and more hassle than itd worth. No idea about wood milling just my thoughts for what they are worth !!
Isn’t there a way to tell what direction the metal you hit is going in ,kinda maneuver as need around it 😎
I use Diablo carbide blades on my skilsaw. Carbide changed the world for carpenters when it came out. I started life as a builder with blades that would get dull in a day, a week, or a month. My current blade has been running for o year and has hit steel more than once, still is ok. Worth it for walnut.
You could also shorten the log when you find the steel. You need storage space, but good wood is prized even in small pieces- 3 foot sections of specially chosen thicknesses could be sold for premium wood over the internet and sent out UPS. How about cabinet makers that build small furniture, or do wainscotting? Blessings to you both. Please go to church on Sunday.
Do you have any carbide blades for the LT15, they tolerate metal strikes much better than regular blades.
I think what they are using is blades that have been re-sharpened about as many times as they can be. They don't normally use carbide on this machine or the LT-40 that they had that uses the same blades if I remember correctly.
G,day Jade and Emerald from Sydney Australia. As a woodworker I really "get a lump" seeing Jade ripping walnut boards 😜 Dam pity about the nails in the log: I always wonder why they are so dang deep. The tree grows from the centre (the pith). So the FN nail should be under the bark?
Are you both interested in flying planes? You got lots of forrest mountain, not great for smooth landings!
🛩️🇦🇺
That is a keeper!
What would be the risk of cutting that end off where you hit the metal a few times so could cut the rest of the log? Hopefully it is not a fence post !! I have seen that on the farm, where the fence post was there so long that the tree grew around it !!!
Hit a railroad spike once on a 00 Frick. Made for an interesting day.
Glad you are still here to tell us about it !!!
Hello Ladies, I saw this tip at a local sawmill, when you hit the metal and have beat up (1) blade STOP, then put a 12" carbide tipped reciprocating saw blade into the slot on both sides of the log and cut through the metal maybe? DIABLO makes those blades. Yes, if the metal is deeper in the log you may not hit the metal? Keep up the wonderful videos, you 2 are great, and your dog makes me laugh, great dog.
Do they make a i-metel blade for times like this so ya can cut both the wood and metel?
Are you using 'older' blades? Those that you are finished with but have not yet broken?
Those eyes . . . . and the two of you swimming ( different episode ) . I'm all fired up about milling walnut with metal in it ! My question is about the metal. Is it spikes hammered in, like EFers do, or totally different ?
Metal can be in trees for lots of reasons. One is like you pointed out, some people try to make it hard to mill lumber by putting in spikes. However trees grow up in fence lines on a farm and can have fence parts in them. People put nails and screws in trees for all kinds of "innocent" reasons: hanging a swing, putting up a no trespassing sign, putting up a wild life camera.....
Dumb question, how did the metal get in there in the first place?
Careful with the long hair ladies ! Also you want to wear at least eye protection ,those blades can fly apart if hitting steel on the wrong angle
Happened to my dad and part went deep into his arm and he was lucky
Sorry about your Dad! However Emerald and Jade are just fine.
Your positive remark is not so reassuring there Cliff
Do they make blades that cut through both wood and metal?
I wish I had access to walnut logs
That is cheap for Walnut. Is that selling off the mill or kiln-dried? Might have to take a drive up to PA!
Always wondered why mills keep getting metal, can you please explain
Pasture fences. Or people hanging bird feeders.
Hi Girls , if you had cut that part slab off with the chainsaw close to where you hit metal you could expose it.
I like the close ups and the video quality on this video. Great quality video, really liked it. I even got my Lumber Capital Log Yard Blue T-Shirt on :)
Can you sharpen those blades, or are they done?
done
Cross-cut both sides and have shorter boards?
Is it better than bugs
on a scale of 1-10, red is on the unicorn scale😆
A metal cutting blade may be needed on that stuff .
I would order some actual metal cutting blades for this known problem. It would be slow going on the cut because the teeth are small and would fill up with saw dust quickly but time wise it would be about the same as having to stop and change the blade frequently. We used blades that were twenty one feet long on an industrial saw so I know you can find them. Or buy bulk rolls of blade stock and a band welder and make your own. You can do it. Good luck.
If your changing blades then get a good bimetal blade , hit he metal , put bimetal blade on ,, cut thru the metal put wood blade back on , you know the drill.
Jade is soooo pretty
why not use a chainsaw to crosscut thru the face cut (that's what I call the outside slab) and so probably exposing some or part of the metal and then maybe you can remove it and continue.
Also everyone in the comments talks about carbide blades here. Are you all referring to Tungsten carbide blades which is what we call them here in Australia?
Hi girls, may i ask what may be a silly question?.....If you know there is metal in a log, then is it possible to use a hacksaw type blade???......Take care, and keepem coming.
I love your canine helper; he always brings you sticks for the sawmill; such a good boy.
Thallona is a female dog.
So will you kiln dry the walnut or sell it green for $5bf?
Seems like there might even be metal in pieces where you didn't happen to hit it. As a woodworker, I'd be hesitant to work with that stuff.
It depends on what you are doing. Clearly you will need to be careful cutting it.
Hey everybody, get yourselves your favorite bottle of hooch and take a shot for every comment or reply from (Clif Claven) Scott Soper. On second thought you might need two bottles. Your Welcome!
No, You will need three bottles!! You missed some comments from today!!!
"You're."
@@_Boregard_Rippy Describing yourself again? This is Lumber Capital Log Yard not the psychology help line.
@@_Boregard_Rippy I went all the way down the list and opened all the comments. I then put in "SOPER" in the search field, and came up with 38 matches with his name. That was much earlier. There are probably a few more since then. I gave him the nick name "Cliff Claven" check out the old TV show "Cheers " He makes reading the comments irritating.LCLY ban him please.
@@jerrydemas2020 How do I make reading the comment "irritating" ?
New camera or just running filters?
That will build up muscles.
Пилить с обоих сторон до металла и после в ручную отделять срез.можно увидеть сам металл и после спилить уже его и делать доски по размеру.
so sweet seeing Thallona eager to help rotate that big big stick - uhmm log
You would think they have some kind of a bimetal blade that you could use. not optimal but when you get wood like this, you wouldn’t have to worry about ruining blades.
If you have that material, why not run a blade that cuts metal?
I don't know how slow you can go with the blade speed, but forty five feet per minute is prescribed.
After thinking about this for a bit, I think that any log suspected of having enough metal to harm a saw should be sold at fire wood price,...at least.
Huge walnut trees within city limits have traditionally been avoided because they were highly suspect for having nails and/or bullets in them.
I spent 2 days pulling nails from an old beam.
WOW !!!!