Hey, I grew up with a song at church camp with this set of lyrics "I don't wanna be a Saducee...because Sadicees are sad, you see....I don't wanna be a pharisee...because pharisees aren't fair you see.. I just want to be a child of god" (yeah, on WV, we got sent to Presbyterian summer church camp)😮
Someome recently introduced me to you guys and I really enjoyed the apocalyptic horsemen ep. Getting hung up in the iconoclasm weeds here tho. Can you explain why its the same to give reverance to something made by human hands as it is to something God has made? Mechanistically, it seems different. I get the mechanism of an icon passing worship onto the prototype (sort of why God said don't make images of fish and birds and other gods and whatnot), but that still leaves a questionable gap in the conduit - which is more effective, the transmission made with or without human hands? As an analogy, if my kid makes a car out of popsicle sticks, and i go buy one made by professionals, which one can i drive, realistically? (Maybe your kids are better popsicle builders than mine, idk) Pragmatically, i can serve an image of God house in a lil flesh tabernacle he made for it, and expect him to receive that service (somehow), bc Jesus affirmed as much (as you say). However, is the image of God in Christ within an image made with popsicle sticks able to transmit service or veneration? Its rather like an iconception. Anyway, sorry for the ramble or offense. Enjoyed all the nerding out with you guys. The popculture references crack me up.
I believe they failed to prove that an icon (say, in the image of a saint) made by a person to be on par with a person who is made by God in the image of God. Also, the Trinity argument presented implies that Christ (who is the image of the invisible God/Is God/Is one with the Father) also should have been made by God since both humans and icons of humans are created things. So the logic when run backwards starting with icon -> person -> Christ -> Father is run backwards, you get a severance in the Trinity.
Just a point on biology: Plants cooperate exchanging moisture and nutrients in concert with bacteria and fungi. There are things like black walnut that “poison” the soil to limit competition, but diversity of species, across families = vibrant soil and resistance to pests and disease. The regenerative agriculture movement is using this process to grow mixed crops without chemicals or fertilizers and therefore building topsoil. Plants in related families may compete. Different family plants benefit one another. There are more living beings in a handful of soil (NOT dirt) than there are human beings on earth. All of that process among the soil life, plants, and insects and animals is the expression of life/creation/God’s abundance.
So true. Yet at the moment humans are still needed to cultivate. The swamp is an excellent example. Stagnant water is no one’s friend. Mosquitoes can’t procreate if the water moves or dries up and all mammals (not just humans), suffer from mosquitoes. All of nature really does benefit when humans do something about stagnant water (such as planting weeping willows to suck up the water). Humans also help the ecosystem by introducing beneficial insects to (lacewing for example) to some areas. I’m a huge fan of grouping plants together for healthy competition. Nonetheless, some plants do over compete whilst contributing very little to wildlife and they do need humans to remove them.
1:00:45 I really wanted to ask if you are going to make an episode about prayer, especially about praying for the others, alive or dead, which is an important and central characteristic of the Orthodox Church. That's a question I have for a while: do our prayers (that is asking God) for the departed ones, and for the living also, have any point or power in the salvation or improvement of those souls, when God Himself, who loves them infinitely more than we do, can save them or improve their condition without our involvement or our prayers? Would God even let the fate or the eternity of those people to depend on whether other people are praying for them or not? I don't think so. As if God needs to or must be convinced or directed by us in order to do the best that can be done for other people and for us. So, that's why I wonder what could be the purpose of our prayers, even of the prayer of the saints for us, when God already knows, can an loves better?
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"Right?" - Fr. DeYoung
"Right." -Fr. Damick
"Right." -Fr. DeYoung
Thank you, this one was very big for me.
1:45:00 I'm a roman catholic and this is spot on. (Btw my brother is roman catholic priest and he also agrees)
This episode is a 3hr excuse for Fr Andrew to tell Fr Stephen to touch grass.
Ty for sharing
Lost 4 loved ones this year and been thinking of my own life.
Hey man, I'm here for you. We don't know each other, but if people can hate those they don't know, then I can love people I don't know.
Hey, I grew up with a song at church camp with this set of lyrics "I don't wanna be a Saducee...because Sadicees are sad, you see....I don't wanna be a pharisee...because pharisees aren't fair you see.. I just want to be a child of god" (yeah, on WV, we got sent to Presbyterian summer church camp)😮
Someome recently introduced me to you guys and I really enjoyed the apocalyptic horsemen ep. Getting hung up in the iconoclasm weeds here tho. Can you explain why its the same to give reverance to something made by human hands as it is to something God has made? Mechanistically, it seems different. I get the mechanism of an icon passing worship onto the prototype (sort of why God said don't make images of fish and birds and other gods and whatnot), but that still leaves a questionable gap in the conduit - which is more effective, the transmission made with or without human hands? As an analogy, if my kid makes a car out of popsicle sticks, and i go buy one made by professionals, which one can i drive, realistically? (Maybe your kids are better popsicle builders than mine, idk) Pragmatically, i can serve an image of God house in a lil flesh tabernacle he made for it, and expect him to receive that service (somehow), bc Jesus affirmed as much (as you say). However, is the image of God in Christ within an image made with popsicle sticks able to transmit service or veneration? Its rather like an iconception. Anyway, sorry for the ramble or offense. Enjoyed all the nerding out with you guys. The popculture references crack me up.
I believe they failed to prove that an icon (say, in the image of a saint) made by a person to be on par with a person who is made by God in the image of God. Also, the Trinity argument presented implies that Christ (who is the image of the invisible God/Is God/Is one with the Father) also should have been made by God since both humans and icons of humans are created things. So the logic when run backwards starting with icon -> person -> Christ -> Father is run backwards, you get a severance in the Trinity.
Just a point on biology:
Plants cooperate exchanging moisture and nutrients in concert with bacteria and fungi. There are things like black walnut that “poison” the soil to limit competition, but diversity of species, across families = vibrant soil and resistance to pests and disease. The regenerative agriculture movement is using this process to grow mixed crops without chemicals or fertilizers and therefore building topsoil.
Plants in related families may compete. Different family plants benefit one another.
There are more living beings in a handful of soil (NOT dirt) than there are human beings on earth. All of that process among the soil life, plants, and insects and animals is the expression of life/creation/God’s abundance.
So true. Yet at the moment humans are still needed to cultivate. The swamp is an excellent example. Stagnant water is no one’s friend. Mosquitoes can’t procreate if the water moves or dries up and all mammals (not just humans), suffer from mosquitoes. All of nature really does benefit when humans do something about stagnant water (such as planting weeping willows to suck up the water). Humans also help the ecosystem by introducing beneficial insects to (lacewing for example) to some areas. I’m a huge fan of grouping plants together for healthy competition. Nonetheless, some plants do over compete whilst contributing very little to wildlife and they do need humans to remove them.
The hosts' microphones sound terrible in this episode. Sounds like the compression is cranked up way too high with a long delay at the end.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try to reach out to the hosts and see if we can work on it.
I would love to make an edit of the last 15 minutes or so, due to copyright how would I go about contacting for permission?
Now asap 😢😢😢😢
1:00:45 I really wanted to ask if you are going to make an episode about prayer, especially about praying for the others, alive or dead, which is an important and central characteristic of the Orthodox Church. That's a question I have for a while: do our prayers (that is asking God) for the departed ones, and for the living also, have any point or power in the salvation or improvement of those souls, when God Himself, who loves them infinitely more than we do, can save them or improve their condition without our involvement or our prayers? Would God even let the fate or the eternity of those people to depend on whether other people are praying for them or not? I don't think so. As if God needs to or must be convinced or directed by us in order to do the best that can be done for other people and for us. So, that's why I wonder what could be the purpose of our prayers, even of the prayer of the saints for us, when God already knows, can an loves better?
JERUSALEM/ WILLIAM BLAKE 🇬🇧👑
What is the ancient of days?
There are no such things as gods goddesses or any other Deitys. There are no ghosts because there is no after life.
There is just this life.
Prove it.