Other than being a bit shy and awkward, Norman seems nice enough. Kind and a bit charming. It must’ve shocked people quite a bit back in the day to find out his secret.
@@shanefolan9175 Also, in 1960, a woman would be more concerned about the morality or scandal of being alone with a man, it wouldn't occur to her that he was a psycho
At 0:39 Attractive Woman invites Norman to have supper in her bedroom. Normans initial split second reaction is to happily oblige Mother steps in a second later, shames him and he hangs his head. Then Norman suggests that they go to the office instead. Another indicator of the two personalities in action here is Normans reflection .
Mr.bates, opening up to Marian, about his daily routine. Is possibly the best that Norman, can do to tell Marian, how lonely his life is. I truly feel for Norman.
"But I don't really know anything about birds." Alfred Hitchcock is the original master of dark comedy. You know in this scene something is really wrong. But Norman is so innocent and brittle that you can't imagine what.
@@johnkuipers7829 I'd say there are plenty of morals in this movie. Also Norman is not really creepy, ok maybe very mildly at times some might perceive him on occasion, but more child like and socially awkward. Autistic like qualities today.
A timeless masterpiece, Psycho actually gets better with repeated viewings. Now that we know the truth and what happens to Marion, this scene becomes even more disturbing.
0:34 I know it is a weird interpertation of the scene, but it almost feels like Marion is attracted to Norman Bates. The way she speak and looks at him, when she invites him in feels almost like she is flirting with him.
I think that was intentional and not at all a weird interpretation. They are both in their prime and relatively handsome so I suppose as an audience the expectation is that a romance will occur but Hitchcock takes this common plot device and gives us something completely different than the status quo. There is certainly elements of flirtatious behaviour and sexual tension present in the scene so it makes what happens afterwards all the more shocking. Even his physical similarity to Marion's partner Sam is intentional as it shows it's the type of man she'd be drawn to. Hitchcock played a lot with the audiences' expectations in the film after all and took the conventional and made it unconventional as I mentioned in the 1st paragraph. Other ways would be how he kills off the main character in the film so early on and how the stolen money becomes a secondary plot to Norman's madness.
It's later in the scene, but something Norman says gets to Marion, and she decides she's going to return. She tells Norman she's leaving early to return to Phoenix, and Norman says, "Oh really?" But he says it it with a sinister smirk. It's brief, but it's the first indication of his menace. He knows already that she's not going anywhere. Watch for it.
I thought when he said 'my hobby is to stuff things' was the first inclination he had bad intentions towards her, in that he was about to stuff things up for her in a way she couldn't imagine.
@@shanefolan9175 Yes, but the first time viewer is as much in the dark as Marion. We think he's weird. But the Oh Really?--to me at least--is the first tip that he's dangerous.
@@nicholasschroeder3678 Wouldn't the talking of stuffing animals and jumping from passive birds to 'beasts' be the 1st obvious sign to the viewer that he was dangerous?
@@shanefolan9175 Disturbed for sure. And Marion certainly picks up on that. But the Oh really? is the first sign of aggression directed AT HER. And I don't think she sees his menacing face when he says it or picks up on the tone (she's preoccupied with her internal drama). But we see and hear it, albeit fleetingly. Check out the scene and judge for yourself. I never really noticed it--probably took it in subconsciously (probably Hitchcock's intent: the scene is so loaded with ironies and foreshadowing)--until I'd seen it several times. But I do think up until that moment we only get that he's crazy. He hadn't shown I'll intent towards her.
Such an excellent film; this scene really reveals a lot about Norman. Thanks for publishing this! I have recently reviewed Psycho and have just subscribed to your channel.
2:01 I don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but the word "falsity" is wrong here. Norman stumbles over it, because the correct word is "fallacy"; which sounds a lot like "phallus", and Norman didn't want to stick that in there.
I thought he was saying it because it made you notice it and it puts emphasis on ''fallacy'' or ''falsity'' which basically means something that is a misconception/delusion. It is intelligent of Hitchcock here and a nice touch as I am thinking a lot of people wouldn't know what the word ''fallacy'' meant so he throws in the ''falsity'' to give those unfamiliar with word more understanding of it and even gets Norman to explain it. And of course for those who did understand the word the scene still works with the same effect. Generally highlighting the theme of appearance verses reality of the entire set up. Thus it is a foreshadow and hint of how false Norman is, pretending to be virtuous and docile yet the reality is quite different and how the entire situation he is presenting with mother being alive is all a delusion and a mere fallacy. His words highlight his dubious character. In essence it is alluding to the entire fallacy Norman is creating to Marion and the outside world. Hitchcock used plenty of symbolism through setting, camera work, lighting and the language in this scene to highlight to the audience the danger Marion was in. I also think the ''fallacy'' here is significant as it alludes back to the opening scene of the movie and the reason Marion is running away. She tells Sam she wants to escape her immoral life and live the respectable traditional life of conservatism . She basically describes the latter when she describes her want for a picture of her mother on the wall and cook a Sunday lunch as a married woman with her sister present etc. Norman living with his mother running a family business would represent this 'virtuous' life she craves. Yet we see the virtue here she thinks it represents is all a ''fallacy'' and behind this veneer of temperance and prohibition the family run motel represents lies the same immoral behaviour as the nonconformist and wicked world Marion is trying to run away from.
you know all serial killers are charismatic, that's how they lure people to a false sense of security. you gotta rethink your taste in men if you don't wanna end up like one of his stuffed birds
she didn't have bad instincts against him though, I think with the dramatic irony it's different for the viewer as we know his intentions and see his sinister nature and see the scene differently than her the active participant. She perceives him as somewhat socially awkward and maybe a bit different but certainly not dangerous or predator like.
@@shanefolan9175 She's not exactly normal either considering she stole tons of money from her job. Normal people aren't thieves, at least not to that extent.
@@javierburgos7 There is a world of difference between a thief and a psychopath. Plus she just stole the cash in a mad decision to solve her problems but came to her senses in the end and was going to return it, she was no hard criminal. I don't what point you are making at all-are you saying because she stole money that should make her extra savvy towards sussing out psychopaths? Her actions in the movie aren't relevant at all towards not perceiving he was dangerous and unhinged. He didn't do or say anything here to actually clearly show he was dangerous or give off very bad vibes. He just seemed a bit odd, innocent and somewhat socially awkward. I'm sure there were victims who got lured by Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy etc who did bad things in their lives but they still had no idea these men were predatory psychos.
@@shanefolan9175 i wasn't putting both of them on the same level. you dont have to point out the obvious to me or put words in my mouth that i didnt say. im no nobel prize but im smart enough to know all that and some. all im saying is in this world there are normal people who go on with their daily lives without harming others or themselves for no justified reason, and then there are abnormal people, like thieves, murderers, drug addicts, rapists, property destroyers, etc. she is a thief, plain and simple, and in a civilized society she is not normal.
@@javierburgos7 But how and why is that (that being her morality) relevant to my point that there was no good reason or basis for her to detect he was a psychopath?
Perkins mussed my hair on a San Francisco street in the 60s when my mother and I were walking through China Town. Mom was pretty and he was flirting. Maybe he wasn't gay.
His mom sexually abused him and made him gay for 20 years. She abused him even as an adult! In his 40s he got married and had 2 kids, they lived together 20 years , they never divorced with his wife despite that fact that he had AIDS. As a woman , I think he was straight. And he was very beatiful from head to toe! I love his voice too!
This is based on a man name Ed Gaines and the chain saw massacre too Ed was close with his mom when his mom died he lost it his mom was a very religious women
T. Zappa oh I didn’t know this was school stfu you could of save that shit you make no sense I write whatever the fuck I want however the fuck I want to fuck off
It wasn't really though, that's the whole point Hitchcock was making. Marion wanted to be part of 'respectful' society so used theft and treachery to achieve it. Her lunchtimes were spent in seedy hotels with her lover out of wedlock when the idea of sex before marriage were considered things people didn't do-they actually did. Likewise Norman was living 'respectfully' with his mother in a family run traditional respectable family business and abstaining from the 'immoral' behaviour Marion participates in like premarital sex or theft. He even refuses to enter Marion's bedroom to eat and instead suggests going to the parlour as the idea of pre marital sex and intimacy was looked down upon and seen as immoral. Hence beyond this veneer of respectability he himself covers up for 'mother's' wicked deeds and engages in acts of violence and murder. Even mother herself in life who preached such values to her son did not appear to live by the latter values herself as she had men in the house.
Dude played this role too good lol
The saddest thing about this scene is that they would make a very handsome couple, with beautiful children
Eww
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Other than being a bit shy and awkward, Norman seems nice enough. Kind and a bit charming. It must’ve shocked people quite a bit back in the day to find out his secret.
Yea which is why I don't get when people say she should have known he was a psycho, he covered it well in fairness.
@@shanefolan9175 Also, in 1960, a woman would be more concerned about the morality or scandal of being alone with a man, it wouldn't occur to her that he was a psycho
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That's why Anthony Perkins performance is so brilliant.
At 0:39
Attractive Woman invites Norman to have supper in her bedroom.
Normans initial split second reaction is to happily oblige
Mother steps in a second later, shames him and he hangs his head. Then Norman suggests that they go to the office instead.
Another indicator of the two personalities in action here is Normans reflection .
Good spot 💯
The mother character got into his head and called him out
ótimo comentário, ótima análise!! incrível!!
Anthony Perkins was absolutely gorgeous
meh ok looking but absolutely gorgeous is a bit far.
@@shanefolan9175 Since you made this comment, I want to retract mine. Oh wait, no I don't. He was absolutely GORGEOUS.
OH?
IF YOU WERE A WOMAN, YOU COULD ONLY ADMIRE HIM FROM AFAR.
Mr.bates, opening up to Marian, about his daily routine. Is possibly the best that Norman, can do to tell Marian, how lonely his life is. I truly feel for Norman.
"But I don't really know anything about birds." Alfred Hitchcock is the original master of dark comedy. You know in this scene something is really wrong. But Norman is so innocent and brittle that you can't imagine what.
Evan Monroe yes my hobby is stuffing things , you know taxidermy.. Red flag !
"But she's harmless. She's as harmless as one of those stuffed birds."
@@EvanMonroe yep she is dead
"Some people even stuff dogs and cats but I could never do that...but now humans.."
also foreshadows another film that features birds...
Tony is so perfect in this quite difficult role
“Mother, my Mother uhh what is the phrase? She isn’t quite herself today.”
^ Hilarious in-joke tossed in there by the writers...
That's an understatement.
Anthony perkins was born to play norman bates...only he can play norman..rest in peace tony.x
Sim! Ninguém jamais vai interpretar o Norman como ele interpretou. Ele fez um trabalho perfeito!!
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I love he says it’s too “officious”, before they move into the parlor. Incredible film.
Moral of this movie: DON'T dine at Bates Motel and don't shower there. :P
Ha ha. It's a thriller which only Hitchcock could do so well. Norman Bates is creepy on purpose. There's no moral here.
@@johnkuipers7829 I'd say there are plenty of morals in this movie. Also Norman is not really creepy, ok maybe very mildly at times some might perceive him on occasion, but more child like and socially awkward. Autistic like qualities today.
I saw Psycho in the drive in when I was in high school. It still scares the bejeezus out of me 60 years later!
What a beutiful face janet leigh had.
Awwww, Norman! I love that boy! Too bad he turned bad.
A timeless masterpiece, Psycho actually gets better with repeated viewings. Now that we know the truth and what happens to Marion, this scene becomes even more disturbing.
0:34 I know it is a weird interpertation of the scene, but it almost feels like Marion is attracted to Norman Bates. The way she speak and looks at him, when she invites him in feels almost like she is flirting with him.
I think that was intentional and not at all a weird interpretation. They are both in their prime and relatively handsome so I suppose as an audience the expectation is that a romance will occur but Hitchcock takes this common plot device and gives us something completely different than the status quo. There is certainly elements of flirtatious behaviour and sexual tension present in the scene so it makes what happens afterwards all the more shocking. Even his physical similarity to Marion's partner Sam is intentional as it shows it's the type of man she'd be drawn to.
Hitchcock played a lot with the audiences' expectations in the film after all and took the conventional and made it unconventional as I mentioned in the 1st paragraph. Other ways would be how he kills off the main character in the film so early on and how the stolen money becomes a secondary plot to Norman's madness.
She is definitely attracted to him. He is a more handsome version of her boyfriend
It's later in the scene, but something Norman says gets to Marion, and she decides she's going to return. She tells Norman she's leaving early to return to Phoenix, and Norman says, "Oh really?" But he says it it with a sinister smirk. It's brief, but it's the first indication of his menace. He knows already that she's not going anywhere. Watch for it.
The line "we get stuck in our own private traps" is what set Marion straight
I thought when he said 'my hobby is to stuff things' was the first inclination he had bad intentions towards her, in that he was about to stuff things up for her in a way she couldn't imagine.
@@shanefolan9175 Yes, but the first time viewer is as much in the dark as Marion. We think he's weird. But the Oh Really?--to me at least--is the first tip that he's dangerous.
@@nicholasschroeder3678 Wouldn't the talking of stuffing animals and jumping from passive birds to 'beasts' be the 1st obvious sign to the viewer that he was dangerous?
@@shanefolan9175 Disturbed for sure. And Marion certainly picks up on that. But the Oh really? is the first sign of aggression directed AT HER. And I don't think she sees his menacing face when he says it or picks up on the tone (she's preoccupied with her internal drama). But we see and hear it, albeit fleetingly. Check out the scene and judge for yourself. I never really noticed it--probably took it in subconsciously (probably Hitchcock's intent: the scene is so loaded with ironies and foreshadowing)--until I'd seen it several times. But I do think up until that moment we only get that he's crazy. He hadn't shown I'll intent towards her.
"A boy's best friend is his mother."
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Such an excellent film; this scene really reveals a lot about Norman. Thanks for publishing this! I have recently reviewed Psycho and have just subscribed to your channel.
It's good film honestly! 👍
@@jelenav3336 just good?
Psycho released in movie theaters across America June 1960 exactly sixty years ago today
Que lindo era Anthony Perkins 😍😍
2:01 I don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but the word "falsity" is wrong here. Norman stumbles over it, because the correct word is "fallacy"; which sounds a lot like "phallus", and Norman didn't want to stick that in there.
I thought he was saying it because it made you notice it and it puts emphasis on ''fallacy'' or ''falsity'' which basically means something that is a misconception/delusion. It is intelligent of Hitchcock here and a nice touch as I am thinking a lot of people wouldn't know what the word ''fallacy'' meant so he throws in the ''falsity'' to give those unfamiliar with word more understanding of it and even gets Norman to explain it. And of course for those who did understand the word the scene still works with the same effect. Generally highlighting the theme of appearance verses reality of the entire set up.
Thus it is a foreshadow and hint of how false Norman is, pretending to be virtuous and docile yet the reality is quite different and how the entire situation he is presenting with mother being alive is all a delusion and a mere fallacy. His words highlight his dubious character.
In essence it is alluding to the entire fallacy Norman is creating to Marion and the outside world. Hitchcock used plenty of symbolism through setting, camera work, lighting and the language in this scene to highlight to the audience the danger Marion was in.
I also think the ''fallacy'' here is significant as it alludes back to the opening scene of the movie and the reason Marion is running away. She tells Sam she wants to escape her immoral life and live the respectable traditional life of conservatism . She basically describes the latter when she describes her want for a picture of her mother on the wall and cook a Sunday lunch as a married woman with her sister present etc.
Norman living with his mother running a family business would represent this 'virtuous' life she craves. Yet we see the virtue here she thinks it represents is all a ''fallacy'' and behind this veneer of temperance and prohibition the family run motel represents lies the same immoral behaviour as the nonconformist and wicked world Marion is trying to run away from.
There’s TOTALLY such a word as falsity, look it up, and it was used correctly here. You’ve gone out on a very strange limb!!
@@dianalee3059 I never said there was not such a word-I was saying the way he draws attention to the words is there to put emphasis on them.
If Norman Bates was a bird I can see him as a crow. Crows are often associated with death and they are very clever.
I thought that was ravens
Norman wasn't clever though, the detective had him sussed in minutes and Norman tripped over his words.
Sandwiches and milk will do for casual dinner on a rainy night
Poor boy, he ran away with his tray hahaah!! So shy! So intimidated by women! I love him!
not too intimidated to interrupt her shower.
@@haintedhouse3052 but that wasnt really him as norman, it was him as mother
Norman so tender
I love him 😍
you know all serial killers are charismatic, that's how they lure people to a false sense of security. you gotta rethink your taste in men if you don't wanna end up like one of his stuffed birds
@@reinforcer9000 still love him 😊
Im too psychopath you love me? 😯
I bet, he's hot. He was my first TV crush
@@reinforcer9000 no they are very clever but charismatic only 20&
:38 the music and Normans shyness tells you all about him
My baby Norman xxx
Exhibit A: The sandwich.
Pie, a slice of bread with butter.
She should have trusted her instincts and RUN
she didn't have bad instincts against him though, I think with the dramatic irony it's different for the viewer as we know his intentions and see his sinister nature and see the scene differently than her the active participant. She perceives him as somewhat socially awkward and maybe a bit different but certainly not dangerous or predator like.
@@shanefolan9175 She's not exactly normal either considering she stole tons of money from her job. Normal people aren't thieves, at least not to that extent.
@@javierburgos7 There is a world of difference between a thief and a psychopath. Plus she just stole the cash in a mad decision to solve her problems but came to her senses in the end and was going to return it, she was no hard criminal. I don't what point you are making at all-are you saying because she stole money that should make her extra savvy towards sussing out psychopaths? Her actions in the movie aren't relevant at all towards not perceiving he was dangerous and unhinged. He didn't do or say anything here to actually clearly show he was dangerous or give off very bad vibes. He just seemed a bit odd, innocent and somewhat socially awkward.
I'm sure there were victims who got lured by Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy etc who did bad things in their lives but they still had no idea these men were predatory psychos.
@@shanefolan9175 i wasn't putting both of them on the same level. you dont have to point out the obvious to me or put words in my mouth that i didnt say. im no nobel prize but im smart enough to know all that and some. all im saying is in this world there are normal people who go on with their daily lives without harming others or themselves for no justified reason, and then there are abnormal people, like thieves, murderers, drug addicts, rapists, property destroyers, etc. she is a thief, plain and simple, and in a civilized society she is not normal.
@@javierburgos7 But how and why is that (that being her morality) relevant to my point that there was no good reason or basis for her to detect he was a psychopath?
J'adore la saga psycose 😊😊
Thanks Scott
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ジャネット・リーは美しく、不安を抱えた青年を見事に演じたパーキンスは素晴らしい。
Norman offered her dinner at The Bates Motel soon thereafter she was ready for a shower
I just realised his jacket is too big for him
I think it's for the rain or the blood
He's like 6'2" so it must be a very large jacket.
Norman probably wore his father's old clothes, too. I can't imagine him going on big shopping sprees in town.
@@davsny5 He's tall and thin.
Manda o filme completo e dublado, Psicose , e Psicose ll !!
Perkins mussed my hair on a San Francisco street in the 60s when my mother and I were walking through China Town. Mom was pretty and he was flirting. Maybe he wasn't gay.
Please don't ruin my fantasies
Bisexual
He was bi
@@achutamjha2035 lol
His mom sexually abused him and made him gay for 20 years. She abused him even as an adult! In his 40s he got married and had 2 kids, they lived together 20 years , they never divorced with his wife despite that fact that he had AIDS. As a woman , I think he was straight. And he was very beatiful from head to toe! I love his voice too!
This is based on a man name Ed Gaines and the chain saw massacre too Ed was close with his mom when his mom died he lost it his mom was a very religious women
T. Zappa oh I didn’t know this was school stfu you could of save that shit you make no sense I write whatever the fuck I want however the fuck I want to fuck off
Ed Gein from Plainfield Wisconsin. Wisconsin was also home to Jeffrey Daumer
During the Time of this Movie Psycho 1960 America was better Place
It wasn't really though, that's the whole point Hitchcock was making. Marion wanted to be part of 'respectful' society so used theft and treachery to achieve it. Her lunchtimes were spent in seedy hotels with her lover out of wedlock when the idea of sex before marriage were considered things people didn't do-they actually did.
Likewise Norman was living 'respectfully' with his mother in a family run traditional respectable family business and abstaining from the 'immoral' behaviour Marion participates in like premarital sex or theft. He even refuses to enter Marion's bedroom to eat and instead suggests going to the parlour as the idea of pre marital sex and intimacy was looked down upon and seen as immoral. Hence beyond this veneer of respectability he himself covers up for 'mother's' wicked deeds and engages in acts of violence and murder. Even mother herself in life who preached such values to her son did not appear to live by the latter values herself as she had men in the house.
Didn't Norman disguise himself as Mother
fals faals faaals falsity ☝️👌😂🤣😂🤣
Psycho girl friend Goyita