Can Derren Brown Fool a Clinical Psychologist?
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2017
- Derren takes on a psychologist in a battle of wits. Can he outsmart him?
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For some reason this video got me thinking of a guy who tricked a psychology board into thinking he was a psychopath, and got admitted to a mental hospital, but after he was admitted he could never get out because when he was being his normal self, the board thought he was trying to manipulate them into thinking he was sane.
How would we know this story?
Top Cat it's been documented.
David Rosenhan.
But was he sane?
he did get out again
I still find this hard to 100% believe until it's done to me.
He never shows us the 100s of times he fails.
S. P. Spatafore Because that would not be entertaining
He does not try to trick you, in fact he did admit this
He just wants to entertain his audience (and so he can be popular/famous/rich)
I would love to have him 1:1 do something like this to me, as I’ve been to see his shows and he is still very much as amazing as on a television screen, and it is a little shocking to watch him in real life and then still he does truly make you think he is some magical wizard, yet he has always given disclaimers pre-entertaining as to how “showman ship” and when broken his live shows down, after reading his books too, he is still a master at his art, but he is truthfully honest in showman ship, he has merged magicians slight of hand, a stage showman, distraction techniques with depth into the psychology of how much the mind is easy tricked etc and he trained in hypnosis which is very real to see in person, as I am not easily able to be hypnotised, watching him as he did to someone who is actually a real person who actually is susceptible to it and he is doing that, I changed my mind on whether hypnosis was real or not but watching in real life and you can see that the people are not faking, it’s not like a list of ways in saying how so, but if you know that subtle feeling like truly you know when a lie or a honest expression comes with those tiny things that subconsciously give you gut instinct, it’s that kinda way, but he can hypnotise I feel as they just were not faking or playing along... the depth of psychology though is how he manages so much of what he does as it’s a scare to see how easily the brain is flawed, can be manipulated or misses the ‘obvious’ things and we all do just these things, he has a great craft as putting these aspects all together is alone a worthy entertaining watch but the way he flips 10 coins on a row to come head up, he just had to film the entire process until he finally got ten in a row, a lot of his tv shows are based on filming and editing but not to say he is completely as fascinating in real life too, he just is master of this art and if ever you have watched up close magician with cards and their slight of hand, it is completely not a skill in itself of practise and practise to perfect such movement it is completely unnoticed but that is just simply a skill anyone could learn still, but yeah i am myself still not going to be mindblown unless he was one on one and did something that I couldn’t even explain myself - would be great! Sadly being so observant of the psychology and magicians hands myself as a separate interest I am just a further way from being anywhere near susceptible to a hypnotist as well, I would love to be and then have someone like him to do so on me, his early books explain so much in psychological explaining that studying subject academically, before techniques came after, I was able to just make a show of ‘how my memory is actually amazing and not like anyone else’s’ by using a couple of his taught psychology only - techniques were to explain these to oeveryone else, they had about 2 minutes of class fame, but these were remembered and used as real life test or near enough, as asked how I was doing such things afterwards echo the two of three short term memory techniques which Hey, it was real and actually worked out until they were explained and then not at all overwhelming to anyone lol I recommend these if you fancy diving into things he can teach in real life by reading his psychology book of which they need to label them as ‘hacks’ to be fair, they are just that!
@@cherylbaker3319 you know it's a possibility that Derren just edits this video? By actually asking the man to say "water ski", then slicing it into the video as though it's random.
If he gets you interested in psychology, that's great, but the majority of the actual effects on his shows are illusions and nothing more. It's a lot of clever editing, hard work, showmanship, and a bit of luck. I have a pretty good idea how to reproduce the first trick. The psychiatrist couldn't see the fact that Derren was just writing words down after he said them, and swapping the order of the pages after to make them look like predictions. The wide shots we see can be done using split screen since the camera doesn't move. The footage on the left is played out of order, with close up shots of Derren to account for the response time difference in each word. He used a more sophisticated application of this principle in the lottery prediction.
This guy is so good he even tricked me into believing he was called darren and not derren
You are heterosexual, you have always been so
@@davepowell7168 what the jolly fuck are you on about Dave
@@davepowell7168 ?
I get nervous about being hypnotized watching these videos. Like I'm gonna wake up one night in an empty warehouse in Bristol doing the chicken dance or something lol.
Lol
That used to be called a rave. Or after hours at the Conservative Party Conference.
This comment freaked me out because just last night I was Googling ‘empty warehouses in Bristol’ to do some filming. Weird.
😂😂😂
and you were hilarious ... uh, never mind.
he is having soooo much fun doing this. just look at his face
Magicians live to perform.
Megabeni Iss it's scripted
YES look at his face ..... on 8/16/2017
He looks 30 years older Totally bald and every bone on his face is noticeable.
I am amazed that with schedule he has the "spare time" to paint masterpieces.
But , boy YA GOTTA REST!
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He's impossibly cute😀
But HOW ????
I imagine Derren talked to him or did some things with his environment before this was done to plant some suggestions in his mind. Notice there's an orange lava lamp on the ground and the first word Derren expects him to say is orange.
SquishyBananaBread definitely something like that and Darren Brown is a master at doing that so subtly it is impossible to pick up on
Good spot on the orange lamp. It was interesting that the psychologist went for another fruit, I wonder if 'suit' was chosen to rhyme and cause an association while sounding like something completely different.
SquishyBananaBread I looked away and I picked very similar things ie I said cow instead of buffalo and building instead of school
Hahahhahaah.... A cat...
SquishyBananaBre
love how derren seems that he is enjoying himself, makes it very enjoyable to watch
I know I'm poor because I just think "what a waste of paper"
same but not cuz of that. but because of poor trees
I thought it was unnecessary for him to rip those sheets off.
@piss flaps speak for yourself prick
I actually also wondered why didn't he just write the words on the same piece of paper, it was big after all. Waste of paper indeed! :D
me too!!! I'm like damn, couldn't he at least use both sides???
How is "School" totally the opposite direction from "tie"?
MegaLamb Because they don't wear ties in American public schools.
I no right! It maid me so trigered wen i wached this i dislikd the video.
Luke, That would be fair enough, except he's a British Clinical Psychologist.
He didn't say "opposite." He asked him to think of words he doesn't associate with the given word. I certainly wouldn't have made that association. I imagine people who went to private schools might, though.
But he's from the US doe.
Derren is the best there ever was at this. His understanding of the mind, and how he makes simple tricks look like miracles is outstanding.
Wdym simple? Do u know how they are done?
Cat drawing came up with James Tennant and a stranger on a similar experiment.
I would pay to see a show of Derren getting 15 mins on stage with everyone who doubts him in the comment section.
i love how excited and happy he gets when he gets it right
"Excellent!"
I really hope this guy is genuine every time, as its tempting to relieve the pressure of always needed to perform close to perfection to do credit to his reputation he has build up
Missing your TV shows Derren, hope you can come up with one soonn
Absolutely amazing! Great idea Derren!
I've just been hypnotized to subscribe, amazing!
"he picked up the cues." No, *you* picked up the cues!
"1080p" - I suppose you have to suggest it to yourself hard enough
Superb showman, saw live about 3years ago was absolutely outstanding. It's great to see that little smirk on his face when he gets it right, just proves he's not a fake.. great
Ive already seen this but came back to see it again.
Absolutely love Derren...went to see him love too. Really good performer and seems like a really nice guy
Really? I didn't know he was into dogging.
How do you see him love
fake and gay
He watched him make gay love to his partner
He doesn't use any on his live performances, only in shows where OBVIOUSLY he uses actors, like when he convinces a guy to save the entire plane and land it. You'd have to be dumb to not realise that, or really fkn dumb if you had to look it up on the internet...Oh wait
Impressive abilities, i was skeptical of this but in hindsight and rewatching his videos i am convinced, Derren is great at what he does aside from his charisma and showmanship his humility is very evident and he really cares about his participants and audience's.
3:53 "feel free to try and CATS MEOW" (Instead of "catch me out", planting the cat into his subconscious through NLP technique). Anyone else catch it? You can also see when derren turns around and grabs the paper, right after that, a mug on the table of a cats face with its tail up in the air as the handle. Derren manipulated him into thinking of something in the room (left brain constructed vs right brain remembered) and then subconsciously pushed him to look and think of a the cat mug by further planting the "cats meow" subtle cue that threw off his subconscious but not so much where his consciousness would detect it.
Dunno why this being so updated; nothing you said was true.
This is idiotic, he just doesn't say the vowels because of his accent.
What? The obvious snowman mug?
You are right..he does the same thing to a woman shopping for a toy in a toyshop
@@molliebradford7718 lol the man is spitting facts...and you just like nah your opinion is wrong
Never get tired of this man. . Unreal. . Did anyone see the episode when he went to the dog track, places his bet, lost, went to the hatch and got paid off his losing docket? I thought to myself 'hold on a minute here' .. I'm doing something wrong ha ha ha ha ha
5:00 he has something written on his hand
Where?
no
hes just looking towards his hand lmao and even if he did,,, so what. the whole trick wouldnt be effected by writting pre written on his hand
@@mcewb726 unless he wrote CAT - simple and easily readable at a glance word - on his hand and made sure the dr has seen it at subconscious level. Then drawing a cat from the side with tail up is obvious for non-cartoonists as those are differentiating features from what otherwise could look like a dog.
@@GregVidua I doubt it.
@@GregVidua I think he got to you through the video haha
Any idea why Derren slipped the word nutcrackers in at the start?
OK thanks, I'm a big fan of Derren but had missed this one
carol cooper No reason at all. it's a trick.
ADC20032996 actually its slang term used for Psychologists. Synonymous with Shrink
Brendan Bate It was still a trick.
Hmm, I really must try and drop more puns into my day to day routine! That way I can influence people to do what I want! That is how Derren does it, right? Just throw some random words in your speech and people will subconsciously pick up on it? Right guys?
Does anyone else really enjoy the sound of his marker when he's written the word
His videos seems to have "flashes" of drawings embedded in them .. look at time 5:28 here as an example. I've seen this in his other videos too.
Yeah I got it too . Wtf is that
Clinical psychologists don't use free association or projective tests
that.. and in the end talks to pnl, a pseudoscience in psychology
Yeah I was gonna say, these are tests from the 1910s-1950s, no one does this shit anymore, so that was a tip off this psychologist is either a plant or just wants really to fit in and I’m not convinced of his credentials
Projective tests are still used, they just aren't common. Thematic Appreciation Test is still used, as is the Rorschach.
"No worse than me" - please Derren you are like the next Picasso in your spare time
siiick ! :D i so wanna learn stuff u do :D
How could anyone DISlike this video? Wtf?? It's amazing
why at 4:52 when you turn CC on, it says niggas?
Edit:
How did this comment get over 200 likes 😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Max Streseman you've made my day, thank you for pointing this out 😂😂😂
Cian Lancaster no problem 😂
Max Streseman
What u mean? Can't find anything
Look closely. It's hilarious.
wondering what that subliminal orange picture with the black line drawings at 5:28 is.
Yeah with a funny beep noise as well 🤔
@@Christoff070 i've scrolled all this way looking for the answer...
I love Darren’s stuff.- And he scares the sh.t outa me
"Catch Meeow" lol and I daresay the tail was at the left hand end of the cat, right?
that would have really freaked meow-t
What you did there, I see it.
I don't see anythin-meow-g unusual about what he type-meow-d.
Jimi Jones
hhahahahhaa
That is utterly brilliant.
i got it your thinking of a erm,ahh,hmm,maybe a """CAT"" yes am i right??
regardless of the trick played out on this video, it's the comments on here that fascinate me more. Maybe it's just coincidence many people thought of the same things.
I was compelled to subscribe.
That was amazing. I wish I could learn to do it.
Funny, but my first reaction to the "dissociative drawing" was a cat. But then again, it might have been a coincidence, or I had certainly seen the show before, and it might have just bubbled up from my memory. Still, gives you chills when you think "cat", and Derren says, "Clearly, not a dog, but a cat".
One time I got really spooked because he was talking to the dead and I thought to myself 'hey mabey my aunt will come up' and then he asked a lady with the same name as my aunt what the name of the ghost he was talking to was and it was my name.
I thought of a sledge hammer hitting a rail spike whilst seeing the image up close as my secret picture but in my mind i drew a cat
i also thought of a cat.
5:28
because he says "catch meow" not "catch me out"
@4:01 notebook and bent paper @4:08 just the notebook no paper @4:18 notebook and paper is back
Good spot, and there's a pen present when the bent paper is not visible. Therefore it wasn't a continuous film. I dunno what else one can deduce from that??
very nice catch.
Good one
damn nice catch... got me confused now... must be fake
Things on the table also move slightly
My friend & were hypnotised watching his Showman show. It’s weird feeling not remembering!!
legend
I don't know how he does this however, if I was to do this the only way I could think of achieving this would be to use the "one ahead principle" then use split screen editing to make it look like I was getting the answers correct. Ps I love Derren Brown 🙂
I also think thats what happened here
yep like the lottery one. if you look at the window above his head it moves
Amazingly enough I thought of "orange" at the beginning. Even before you said your word.
Great guy seems very genuine nice person
I feel they are in it together.
The psychologist is unknowingly hypnotised, the words and drawings have been implanted into his subconscious. At the start when he sits on the couch, Derren is touchy feely putting him into a hypnotised state.
Ok so I’ve seen derren live and he’s brilliant, however I’ve never experienced his talent first hand until this video. I am only at 2:52 at the moment however I played along as if I was the guy in the chair and I just said jet ski too.... this is insane.
Some great NLP in there, only picked up on a couple of the pointers.
Amazing!
at the 5 minute mark you can see he looks at his hand twice, not sure if he just has some notes on there or what but i found it interesting
Nice observation.
Feel Free to CATch me-ou(t)" Cat Meow. He is planting the cat idea in his mind there. Clever!
Sneaker's Corner I noticed that too
Ahhh! "Neuro-Linguistic Programming."
Also when you "catch something out" it looks surprised. A cat is associated with raising its tail when it's surprised and "caught out'. So it's a double meaning and has extra power on his thoughts
do you guys actually believe its that simple? this is fake as fuck lol
@@beingofstrange This is edited down for time, you've no idea how long he was with this guy working him for this bit. I imagine there was a whole lot more. Hardly simple.
MY SECRET IMAGE WAS A TREE! I know his wasnt but oh my gosh he still drew one . . .
To anyone curious, the music that plays from 0:00 to 0:21 is Mrs Bagwell's Rhumba
A few years back i got completely obsessed with NLP and beleived all the hype. Its 100% a powerful communication tool but Derren himself has stated his amusement with those of us that think he does his tricks (yes they are tricks) by some kind of subliminal word insertion.
He slips them in for a laugh
Yes thank you!!! The :"explanations" are a part of the "trick" it'self! As an clinical psychologist or anyone even near this field knows that free association or projective test aren't even used, if a clinician did (and I can't imagine why they would) they would gain info that would be extremely subjective, basically useless from a scientists point of view. Same with NLP, if you know anything about it you're aware that it is in no way capable of what Darren "suggests", but he never truly states what techniques he is using.
He simply references different tests, techniques, and things that would sound to most as something that he could be using to illicit the results he wants. Example: NLP techniques things that can be used by anyone and can be a good tool in communication etc.
This is what makes him so incredibly entertaining to most and leaves people often forgetting that he admits he is "tricking" us and often others on his shows (although I don't believe we are always being "tricked" to believe the same thing...watch The Push. I believe we (the audience) believed one thing was taking place, while the people that were having the "experiment" done on them believed something very different was taking place. Making the choice to Push some one different for them, than for us...believing they thought they were pushing someone to there death. Both us (audience) and the participants were equally surprised and had genuine reactions but he is creating two different realities. We see only the one he wants us to. He does this in many, many of his Special shows(the heist for sure, and also the Sacrifice).
This is difficult to explain and I certainly do not know "how" or "what" he is doing we are only seeing one side, BUT that does not mean he is using actors or stooges. The participants and the audience both are being "tricked" just in different ways.
I do know that the amount of work, time, money put into these shows is tremendous and if we were somehow to find out ALL the many facets of it we would have wished we had just enjoyed the TV show :) At least that has been the case for me in other "tricks"(Certainly NOT an of DB's) where I have learned of the "secret". Really just a crazy amount of work and not just 1 secret a massive plan that requires far more than I could have ever imagined and at the end I wish I did not know.
Good magic is all about misdirection.
He made him think a tree was a cat. Mind blowing.
The camera framing allows a really simple stitching of Derren writing the previous answer on the card to his query. He then only needs to remember the previous response and get a few wrong for effect
0:20 "Nutcrackers" already planting the seed in this guys head lmao
Looks at his hand and reads something twice at 5:00. Smooth buddy.
He had the phrase "cat with tail in the air looking at the camera" on his hand and was surreptitiously flashing it at the guy leading up to the drawing experiment.
5:03 when he turns around he looks at his hand twice as if there is something on it
Yer a wizard Darren!
2:45 He's drawing along with the music holy fuck this is magic take my money.
Why some subliminal at 5:27 ?
It's part of the episode where at the end a woman walks around a supermarket in that same pattern to pick up an object that Derren had predicted.
I've wonder if Derren predicted brexit or trump :D
it was a subliminal message of a cat
He did. But after winning the lottery, it didn't matter anymore.
if it was subliminal you wouldn't notice it. If you can acknowledge the presence of the message the subliminal effect doesn't work.
This is how I think he did the last one.
Right hand was up in the air for a while (cats tail being upright) and was in a claw form. He also said "catch me out" which sounds like Cat-ch Meow-t. And then he makes a point of turning to the side, and overdramatises it. Thats how I'm guessing he made the guy think of a side on cat with its tail up.
nah, it's just a trick
Interesting! Notice there is one discrepancy - Derren describes a cat with its head turned to the side; the psychologist says 'yes', but he's described a cat with its head turned to face him. (This is a very minor point obviously!)
I immediately thought, I'd repeatedly say 'apple' before he even wrote a single word!🤣😂🤣😂
you can see the split screen in action. At around 3:05 there is a ghost artifact near the Dr's left hand that is not there earlier on at 1:27. A few seconds later at 3:09, after a quick cutaway, the ghost is now part of the Dr's coat that has fallen off the couch. It probably fell off earlier on than revealed and the ghosting was left there due to slightly sloppy editing.
No no no way bro! Just before he wrote buffalo I was thinking of the word Ox. I was trying to pull out a random word and I thought of an ox. He must have done some subliminal shit to get the guy to say buffalo and it made me think of an ox instead.
No joke bro I said cat when I saw the picture of the tree do creeped out right now.
3:43, bright orange lava lamp so he was supposed to say orange the first time.
We are all predictable, by virtue of our inherently respecting that logical association constructs
meaning and thereby enables survival.
Wish he would do a guided hypnosis session!!!
"Hey I could break the word thingy with saying "cat" every time"
*few seconds later*
WHAT
Ngl as soon as he said to start drawing a picture I thought of a tree.
The Blue Apple I did 😂😂
Yeah me too
One Flew Over the Cooko's Nest. Good novel and movie
He was looking, look at his eyes!
OMG I thought he would draw a picture of a cat, then I thought of a tree. I pictured a cat face rather than a cat turned to the side with its tail in the air, but still... My heart rate just spiked!
Ah yes
This is in my recommended again
- Me 2019
Wow I so believe in this highly edited raw real video...
The first two were just Derren calibrating his wizardry.
"Nutcrackers"
Hehe..
Tell us how ya really feel with the tone, quickness of the word, and trailing off...
it's a colloquial term
what was that red thing with the beep and the black line? at 5:27
Robin Kuin its 5:27
Alix Ralix I know sorry 😅
It's a picture from his other trick in this particular set of videos where he gets a woman to walk around on that path to select a specific object.
5:28
Saw it too
how can i never get Derren Brown video suggestions ever again?
NLP plus listening to the pen strokes - audibly recognisable pen-stroke patterns eg 'School' with the swirling sound of S, the double O's and L, and Buffalo with the double F's and exaggerated 'O'.
Maybe.
No idea about the Cat thing tho, maybe there is a list of common things people draw when thinking of other things?
Ooo i love this man, so clever check it out at 03:53 he says try and think of something to catch meow instead of catch me out. Beacsue he was a professional psychiatrist he didn't use anything too obvious like saying its doesn't have to be purrfect. That's all he needed, your brain will latch onto it and subliminally draw you to that which is obviously a cat. Well played sir my dream is to goto a school where he teaches this
lool try telling 100 people "think of something to catch me out" and see how many different kinds drawings you get completely unrelated to cats. ohhh and also, how was he so specific about the turning head? the power of suggestion is not happening here.
this guy is 100% acting, and the trick is that you believed that he wasn't.
I wasn’t think cat but I was thinking of drawing a tree.
Shamless Gaming yeah i was thinking the same. Was looking in the comments if anyone else thought so
I was thinking cat wtf
Yeah me too wtf
guys... theres 1.5mil views, no shit some people will guess cat. this whole thing is dumb
@Derren Brown You've perfected the art of inception. :)
Derren at 2:15 : "aha now I've got you under my spell!"
I reckon the guy hadn't actually thought of a cat, but Derren managed to convince him that he had. If he really had thought of a cat (or whatever) Derren would have asked him to record this (in writing or another picture) so that we would have been amazed. Or Derren would have written it down and had the bloke say it out loud As it is, we only have the psychologists's word for it that he had indeed been picturing a cat. Ergo, the "magic" was how Derren managed to convince him into acquiescing at the end. And I think it began at the moment Derren pressed his hands onto his shoulders. In other acts, Derren often uses touch to influence people.
the cat part is mostly NLP, he performed a similar trick in 'The Gathering' where the subject was told to draw the secret image and it was a cat... if you watch back there are certain cues that put cat in his head.
split screen trick again like the lottery prediction??
Fuck me after years and years I've just realised the method for this. Hahahaha amazing
Just awesome.... Kx
Holy fuck. I was honest to god imagining a tree and wanted to draw a cat before they started taking about a cat or i saw the drawing, just opposite of the psychologist. How tf...
Derren could literally do ANYTHING with his skills, but he chooses to explore and open the world's eyes the unconscious mind and all the many different ways we unknowingly fall into the hands of our own brain!
And he loves every second of it, just look at his face! Legend.
Truly.
he can rob a dog racing track blind. he done that once. what a man
Psychedelic hallucinogenic relic of reality you realise just like magic he's fake, right?
Anal you do realise that JUST LIKE MAGIC, Derrens 'entertainment' and the main word being that it IS entertainment, is made up of a combination of mentalism and showmanship and also YEARS AND YEARS of understanding how the human mind works (mainly the unconscious mind) to reach the pinnacle he is at today. Meaning..... similar to your understanding of 'magic', the way and reasons in which you perceive the 'magic trick' to work, will be far FAR away from the actual ideology at play in the 'ILLUSION'. For example.... Derren gets Simon Pegg to truely TRUELY believe he wants a red BMX bike because 'he never got one as a kid' and it would 'fulfil a childhood dream', whereas in actuality, Derren implemented the unconscious idea of needing a BMX into Simon's brain. He leads the mind one way, creating a disillusioned idea of truth, whilst the REAL truth of the matter stays hidden just underneath the surface. JUST LIKE MAGIC. I rest my case.
Psychedelic hallucinogenic relic of reality Just like Simon he is an actor. The same as all of his subjects.
God damn! I thought about the word Buffalo too. 🤣 He's good
Derren is Such a Cool Guy !
I thought of a cat when watching this. So easy to figure out how he did it when you listen back to EXACTLY what he says prior to the trick.
Catch me out
guys the catogory is entertainment
Captain Deo and?
If you were not entertained you were probably too dumb to realise what is going on. DB is a very clever guy
So is cable news. Is there a point here?
I have nothing to lose or gain by writing this, but I too pictured a side facing cat with it's tail up. It actually made me shout when the man said cat. There's more to this than what we think we see and hear.
Even if you know how it's done, like he knew it's still impressive. :)