I bought my first Thompson Chain back in 1973, and at that time their premium Bible cost $90. I was so happy with this Bible that I gave both my Father and Sister a copy. When I saw this edition I was shocked with joy. The larger font and the use of colors to enhance the division in the Bible. This update is truly a blessing.
They removed several key features, screwed up a few sections, making it good for reading only. Not to worry....if you want the ORIGINAL, Church Bible Publishers still has them for sale and I bought one to replace my worn out hardcover. I will stay away from Zondervan after watching the 4-part video series which went into depth here on RUclips of why you should stay away from this perversion. Sorry to be so blunt, but, Mr Thompson would want his name removed from this if he were alive.
Serif font was very important… it looks great! I hope they keep that for the NKJV & NASB. I also really hope they include the footnotes in the NASB. I use them all the time in my NAS77 TCR. I think it would actually be a deal-breaker for me if they weren’t included. Thank you for the review. The paper and print looks phenomenal!
I'm glad it's black letter. Glossary terms in the margins would make this a perfect TCR for me, though. That's one of my favorite things about the Westminster.
They took kirbride maps, archeology, and glossary of old Hebrew,Aramaic, & Greek words out! Also they shorten notes on some pages. Not the same. I would not buy it!
@@jesselawrence6773 Not sure, but it is red letter, which seems to indicate ‘no’ based on most Premiere editions. It looks great, with or without that word. As Bro. Randy might say, if you want goatskin buy the cowhide & have it rebound after thou wearest the cowhide out.
You probably heard my comment about noticing how long some reviewers took to show the text. I didn't expand on that much, but some were taking 15 minutes or more. I watched an 18-minute video where the reviewer never opened the Bible once. Of course, you could be referring to something else entirely. I'll have to check what happened at the 1-minute mark. lol
Thanks for letting me know. A few years ago, someone spoofed my email address and sent spam, getting me blocked by several email platforms. I got most of it fixed, but it's still having issues.
Hiya Randy. The Thompson chain is my all time favorite bible. I was very excited when I heard that Zondervan was going to redo it and clean it up a bit. I had my heart set on the kjv releasing in November with the premium edition as well, as I wanted their new comfort print. I was hearing before the release that they were removing the archaeological supplement, translator notes and the tress of life I believe, as well as, the red letter edition and maybe more subtractions too. I was very disappointed that so much has been removed. The big one was no red letter, which, is a big thing for me. Maybe they will put it in this edition later on, here's hoping! By the way you do a great job in your presentations! Thank you!
Is the 5th edition still the same with this new bible? I know it states its been revised and updated. Please can you confirm what the differences are from the Orginal kjv and this kjv thompson chain reference bible? It doss not state what edition this whether the Kirkbride content is still the same. Much appreciate your time and aim for a reply please.
@@BibleBuyingGuide That’s unfortunate but thank you so much for following up on it. I was going insane trying to find the table! Glad to have an answer now.
This Bible vs the open Bible? Which one is best? If Thompson chain reference is better than I will wait till I can get the NASB95 version coming out towards end of the year October.
I personally prefer the Thompson. It has much less theological bias and I like the topics in the margins. The Open Bible has a good index, but it almost feels separate from the biblical text.
@@Giancarlo_1997 no, I mean it's not integrated into the text like the TCR's topics are. The Bible text in the Open Bible is a reference edition that doesn't link to the index in any way. The only thing in the text are a few study notes, that is also a separate tool from the index.
@@Giancarlo_1997 it's actually great for sermons and Bible study. I just prefer the Thompson's approach. Instead of having theological definitions in the tools, it just provides lists of verses on each topic. This allows Scripture to interpret Scripture as non-biased as possible. It's not perfect, but it works really well. Both Bibles are good choices, though. I just personally prefer the TCR because of the way it works.
Great review! This is off topic but I know in your reviews that you talk about preaching. I was just wondering if you have some of your preachings online to view?
Thank you Randy for such a wonderful review! Yeah, I was looking forward to this coming out. But it does bother me that they did not include a glossary or annotations
Great review Randy! You mentioned that the KJV doesn't include translation footnotes. Do you know if the upcoming NKJV edition will have the full translation footnotes?
Would you do a comparison between this Bible and the most current Church Bible publishers platinum with red letter? I can only get one but both are contenders. I am leaning towards CBP due to red letter but can't decide.
Hi John. I'm not sure I can get that one, but I'll try. They haven't provided review copies in a while. I did compare the Zondervan edition to the Kirkbride text block (the same block that CBP uses) in part 2. I do prefer the Zondervan editions to the Kirkbride: ruclips.net/video/K5heJJa3WhI/видео.html
@@johnruiz3059 I have platinum TCR from church bible publishers. It's a nice bible, unique buffalo leather, but the text block won't be as nice as this one. The printing in mine varies in darkness and quality in different sections, it can appear grainy or pixilated a fair amount of times, the bible shown here appears to have a much, much higher quality and readability.
@@BibleBuyingGuide another reason why the box it comes in is the best case for it is because if you put a bible in a carrying case, it will weaken the spine over a long period of time so, while the case might protect the cover, it weakens the spine. whereas the box the bible originally comes in, doesn't do that.
I bought my first Thompson Chain back in 1973, and at that time their premium Bible cost $90. I was so happy with this Bible that I gave both my Father and Sister a copy. When I saw this edition I was shocked with joy. The larger font and the use of colors to enhance the division in the Bible. This update is truly a blessing.
I just got mine for my birthday and I love it!! They took out the page that stated words in red btw!
Mistake Found . NT title page states that words of Christ are in red
They removed several key features, screwed up a few sections, making it good for reading only. Not to worry....if you want the ORIGINAL, Church Bible Publishers still has them for sale and I bought one to replace my worn out hardcover. I will stay away from Zondervan after watching the 4-part video series which went into depth here on RUclips of why you should stay away from this perversion. Sorry to be so blunt, but, Mr Thompson would want his name removed from this if he were alive.
What is the name of this four part series?
Serif font was very important… it looks great! I hope they keep that for the NKJV & NASB. I also really hope they include the footnotes in the NASB. I use them all the time in my NAS77 TCR. I think it would actually be a deal-breaker for me if they weren’t included. Thank you for the review. The paper and print looks phenomenal!
I'm glad it's black letter. Glossary terms in the margins would make this a perfect TCR for me, though. That's one of my favorite things about the Westminster.
Great review as always. Thank you for doing it. Did you notice (at 7:56) that on the introduction of the New Testament page it says it’s red letter?
Good catch. For $270 bible this mistake should not be in there
i've seen plenty of reviews of the TCR and i still can't find an explanation of the difference of the "black letter" and the "red letter"
Red letter generally means ‘words of Christ in red’; black letter means all Scripture are black letters.
Big thank you…!!! ;-)
Thanks!
They took kirbride maps, archeology, and glossary of old Hebrew,Aramaic, & Greek words out! Also they shorten notes on some pages. Not the same. I would not buy it!
Words of Christ aren’t in red?
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Thank you sir
Is the cowhide considered a premium edition?
@@jesselawrence6773 Not sure, but it is red letter, which seems to indicate ‘no’ based on most Premiere editions. It looks great, with or without that word. As Bro. Randy might say, if you want goatskin buy the cowhide & have it rebound after thou wearest the cowhide out.
Thank you all Lord bless!!!
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You probably heard my comment about noticing how long some reviewers took to show the text. I didn't expand on that much, but some were taking 15 minutes or more. I watched an 18-minute video where the reviewer never opened the Bible once. Of course, you could be referring to something else entirely. I'll have to check what happened at the 1-minute mark. lol
I'm glad they managed to cut down on the clutter and the print is perfect. All I ever wanted was a TCR I can actually read clearly. Great review.
Great review brother! I’ve liked and used the Thompson for over 30 years. I agree, the glossary would have been an amazing thing to have left in.
Thanks!
Make it full yapp and hit it with Red letters for words of Christ, then take my money!!
I don't like yaps, but YES, what Jesus said in red ! And I would love a navy blue cover.
I can’t wait to get one! I’m so happy it’s black letter for my eyes!! ❤❤❤❤
Es una belleza, espero que editorial Vida pronto se anime a sacar una edición es español de la Biblia Thompson como parte de la Colección Premier
Randy, just fyi all your emails end up in spam folder in gmail no matter what I do.
Thanks for letting me know. A few years ago, someone spoofed my email address and sent spam, getting me blocked by several email platforms. I got most of it fixed, but it's still having issues.
Same for me. I just sweep my spam folder and search for Randy's before emptying. I always look forward to his reviews!
Why doesn’t KJv ever come in black and silver. I hate gold.
They removed the second most important kjv version part of bible as my first language is not english
I would have liked to see it left in. I think it's important even for those with English as their first language because it's not how we speak today.
Dang, printed in china :/
Someone reviewed this Bible and said that there are typographical errors. Do you know anything about this?
Someone mentioned an error where it's missing part of the book introduction to Hebrews.
Is this available yet at retail? I checked Amazon but I don’t see any new comfort print TCR KJV Bibles. Thanks!
It's currently on preorder. It will start shipping in the next week or so.
Hiya Randy. The Thompson chain is my all time favorite bible. I was very excited when I heard that Zondervan was going to redo it and clean it up a bit. I had my heart set on the kjv releasing in November with the premium edition as well, as I wanted their new comfort print. I was hearing before the release that they were removing the archaeological supplement, translator notes and the tress of life I believe, as well as, the red letter edition and maybe more subtractions too. I was very disappointed that so much has been removed. The big one was no red letter, which, is a big thing for me. Maybe they will put it in this edition later on, here's hoping! By the way you do a great job in your presentations! Thank you!
Cesare J Borgia Flavius Josephus King James all have what in common. The letter J
Is the 5th edition still the same with this new bible? I know it states its been revised and updated. Please can you confirm what the differences are from the Orginal kjv and this kjv thompson chain reference bible? It doss not state what edition this whether the Kirkbride content is still the same. Much appreciate your time and aim for a reply please.
Hi. I compared them in part 2: ruclips.net/video/K5heJJa3WhI/видео.html
Where is the table for weights and measures? I can’t find it anywhere.
Hmm. Good catch. I'll check with Zondervan on this.
Here's Zondervan's response:
The KJV TCR is missing the table of weights and measures. This will be corrected in reprints.
@@BibleBuyingGuide That’s unfortunate but thank you so much for following up on it. I was going insane trying to find the table! Glad to have an answer now.
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This Bible vs the open Bible? Which one is best? If Thompson chain reference is better than I will wait till I can get the NASB95 version coming out towards end of the year October.
I personally prefer the Thompson. It has much less theological bias and I like the topics in the margins. The Open Bible has a good index, but it almost feels separate from the biblical text.
@@BibleBuyingGuide why separate, you mean different theological views?
also you would say its not to good for church Bible studies and sermons??
@@Giancarlo_1997 no, I mean it's not integrated into the text like the TCR's topics are. The Bible text in the Open Bible is a reference edition that doesn't link to the index in any way. The only thing in the text are a few study notes, that is also a separate tool from the index.
@@Giancarlo_1997 it's actually great for sermons and Bible study. I just prefer the Thompson's approach. Instead of having theological definitions in the tools, it just provides lists of verses on each topic. This allows Scripture to interpret Scripture as non-biased as possible. It's not perfect, but it works really well. Both Bibles are good choices, though. I just personally prefer the TCR because of the way it works.
Great review! This is off topic but I know in your reviews that you talk about preaching. I was just wondering if you have some of your preachings online to view?
Thanks! I haven't. I hope to. Thanks for checking.
Jesus loves you! He died on the cross for you. Please, don’t take chances with your soul.
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i just ordered this bible for myself for Christmas this year and, best part is, i get to open it At church On Christmas day 😁
Thank you Randy for such a wonderful review! Yeah, I was looking forward to this coming out. But it does bother me that they did not include a glossary or annotations
Do you find yourself missing the lines between the two columns and side columns?
Excellent looking Bible. The sub paragraphs within each chapter, for me, make reading so much more easy.
Oh my gosh! This makes me even more anxious for the NASB to come out. Do you have a tentative date for that?
They haven't revealed that yet.
Learn to love the King James, you'll be glad you did, Jah bless.
Is the paper in this like the a longprimer with 36gsm?
The TCR's paper is slightly whiter and slightly rougher, but just barely. The thickness feels the same.
Do you know if this is going to be released in the NKJV with the larger font?
Great review Randy! You mentioned that the KJV doesn't include translation footnotes. Do you know if the upcoming NKJV edition will have the full translation footnotes?
Thanks! I haven't heard yet, but I suspect it will.
I have one of these on order I cannot wait.
Are you going to eventually review the TCR KJV Large print?
Hi Ken. I will review that one very soon. I hope to have mine in a few days.
Interesting that it doesn't have a glossary.
Hoping to have one.
Would you do a comparison between this Bible and the most current Church Bible publishers platinum with red letter? I can only get one but both are contenders. I am leaning towards CBP due to red letter but can't decide.
Hi John. I'm not sure I can get that one, but I'll try. They haven't provided review copies in a while. I did compare the Zondervan edition to the Kirkbride text block (the same block that CBP uses) in part 2. I do prefer the Zondervan editions to the Kirkbride: ruclips.net/video/K5heJJa3WhI/видео.html
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I appreciate your response and efforts. Love your vids. You are officially the first channel that I have subscribed to.
@@johnruiz3059 thank you!! I appreciate it!
@@johnruiz3059 I have platinum TCR from church bible publishers. It's a nice bible, unique buffalo leather, but the text block won't be as nice as this one. The printing in mine varies in darkness and quality in different sections, it can appear grainy or pixilated a fair amount of times, the bible shown here appears to have a much, much higher quality and readability.
Great Bible review Randy!
Thanks!!
Great review Randy on the new king James bible
Thank you!!
to me, the best case to put any bible in is the box it comes with, if already comes with one like the Premier Collection bibles do.
I agree. I carry them in their boxes and only take them out while using them.
@@BibleBuyingGuide another reason why the box it comes in is the best case for it is because if you put a bible in a carrying case, it will weaken the spine over a long period of time so, while the case might protect the cover, it weakens the spine. whereas the box the bible originally comes in, doesn't do that.
@@JesusLovesYouPerfectly good point!
@@BibleBuyingGuide I've had people comment I was weird for doing that with my Allan 8. 😯
@@fnjesusfreak then I'm weird with you! :-)
I hope they produce a Premier edition of the NASB77 in TCR. Then at last we'd have a premium quality '77!
Unfortunately, the 77 will only remain in print in its current form.
@@BibleBuyingGuide Will they release the TCR in the NASB95?