Why everyone on the Left HATES Destiny
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- Destiny reacts to debates with other leftist content creators frequently, and some of Destiny’s craziest and best debate and livestream moments have caused many leftist streamers such as Hasan Piker and Vaush to hate him. But why do people hate Destiny?
Many have tried to explain why Vaush hates Destiny or why Hasan hates Destiny, but simply watching a video where Vaush calls out Destiny or a Vaush vs Destiny debate is not likely to answer the question. There are several instances where streamer Destiny debates Hasanabi or other leftist streamers but viewing these can only give a surface level understanding of the Destiny vs Hasan drama. There are four fundamental reasons why Destiny is hated by the left.
One reason people hate Destiny is because of his association with controversial right wing figures like Lauren Southern or Sneako. Destiny was also heavily criticized for his opinions concerning Kyle Rittenhouse. But there is more to it than that.
Stephen Bonnell II, better known as Destiny, is a former Twitch streamer and current RUclips streamer known for his political content and debates. Destiny is hated by most other popular leftist streamers, and this is why.
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Which streamer should I make a video on next?
pseudo religious science behind doctor K, I want that guy off the platform with his BS he's doing alot of damage!
Alec Gunter
Yourself
If destiny wasn’t a twitch streamer he’d be a Reddit debater
On top of that... Destiny is a girls name..
VERY important point. Can't believe I forgot to mention this. And not only that, but "Destiny" just sounds like something a 9 year old would call themself.
There is no hiding from this meme even off his channel.
Overused joke, not funny, get a new line
@@Frankthegb now THIS right here truly sounds like something a nine year old would say
You're sexist.
This is kind of goofy and a problem of terminally online people. In real life you interact and even hang out with people that can have radically different outlooks on the world. People mad at him for being friendly to people they don't like is cringe.
true
It's also the only possible choice that that has no positive impact. I don't care how absurdly optimistic someone is, there is never going to be a time where bad behavior is eradicated. Racism, drug use, fraud, violence etc.... these things will always exist.
Now, if these angry critics were genuinely interested in solving a problem, they would have to admit that we would need to convert people. Isolating racists, criminals and addicts is only going to force those people together and galvanize their beliefs/behavior. But, if they did want those people to change, they probably know that it would require engaging with them.
I always felt like being Progressive meant that you should try to be tolerant and encourage positive beliefs and behavior. This lust for punishment is very regressive if you ask me.
Lol destiny literally refused to be cordial with Jackson hinkle he even refused to shake his hand or have a conversation. He even made a reference to how fake Jackson was online saying something to the effect of "they act a serten way online and pretend to be nice to you in person. " like what? Destiny is super petty with some people and completely the opposite with others.
@@the_future_is_anarchy1791 ? How is it contradictory if that is true? Maybe for personal relationships or friendships he really doesn't like people who are fake to him
@@finngodness he was litteraly buddy buddy with haz when he meet him in real life and he was trying to make it seem like they were pussy for not being confrontational. He litteraly made it seem like he was so mocho that he won't shake someone's hand he disagrees with. But the context to the fake reference I made was referring to their "tough guy bravod" as if either of them act tough to begin with but destiny wasn't referring to there characters as fake. He was saying it as a knock on there masculinity (it was meant to be that way because he doesn't refer to the behavior of Jackson in any way when responding to haz, when confronted about why he refused to shake Jackson's hand. But was willing to spend the day with haz joking around. Haz even mentioned that too. He even makes that same jab at haz in a later debate. Haz even says next time I see you it won't be so nice.) But this is the same guy who will throw ad homonyms at someone he's screaming at as fast as he can before he leaves the call like 2 minutes later after he rage quits. The funny thing about that too is it's not like the other person is always matching his level of unhinged angry ad homonym throwing tirades some of them think they can carrying on a reasonable discussion after that with a calm voice as if destiny is going to take the conversation seriously again or as if he isn't going to rage quit like right after that. I don't mean to throw all his dirty laundry out there as if he's absolutely terrible but from what I've seen him say and do tells me he isn't consistent with his rhetoric or actions.
I think destinys over the top wording is one of the reasons why destiny got so big. Funny enough Hasan does this alot as well like when he said America deserved 9/11 but later rationalize what he meant.
there's probably some truth to what you say
I know I'm late but let me explain more. Yeah its weird when destiny debates or invites questionable far right people but it should noted as said in the video that he never agrees with their extremist points of views. I mean not to long ago Hasan interviewed a houthi terrorist and what makes it different was that Hasan tried to be friends with him and he even called him Luffy. As for rittehnhouse you have to remember that case was so politicized that even if you know law you will to be labeled as a far right by most people on the left it was crazy back then. I should note Destiny is more of a neoliberal I think but you have to also remember left wing is more general in terms of types. Destiny is mostly hated by people in the far left and woke ideolegy. Also I find it ironic when some leftist streamers criticized Destiny for using wikepedia but many like Hasan get their information from Twitter which is the most biased place on the internet.
really solid video. lots of great points. keep it up!
Thanks for the kind words. I checked out your channel too. Good stuff!
I disagree with him on a lot of things, but I respect him, he is one of the few online commentators that don't seem to get all his political opinions from a pre-design package, which is more than I can say for most right or left-leaning RUclipsrs or streamers
True. Even when he's stupid, he at least seems to come up with his ideas through some sort of thought process.
@@lounamhbinstead of me naming some random guy, let's do a thought experiment, pick the first online political commentator you can thin off and then try to remember if they have at least one significant belief that differs from what most of their audience or peers believe
I wonder why people (right&left) in public view would do such a thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
HMmm so WeIrD
He's just unbiased most of the time as he relies more on logic than his feelings unlike others. When he is wrong he corrects himself or simply doesn't talk about the topic he's not educated in.
i disagree and he doesn't deserve respect😊
He's a contrarian for attention
100%
1000%
Nah
“How did destiny become a pariah of left wing streamers?” Because the left eats itself .
generally when people talk about the left eating itself they are referring to socialist a category that destiny dose not fall in.
@@problemsolver3254 but his audience was filled with socialists for a while who thought he agreed with them just cuz they hadn’t seen him push back against socialists. As soon as that happened they began turning on him and attacking him.
Plus ngl, most of the leftist infighting I see is between socialists and liberals, rarely do I see it between other socialists.
@@problemsolver3254 that or their unwillingness to argue their very far left views in good faith. For example "trans women are women and if you say otherwise you're a nazy transphobe" which just pushes everyone a bit more to the right, thus eating themselves
@@mindaugasjurevicius5776 are we rely saying trans women are women is a far left belief even destiny believes that. also you can find many left leaning people debating this subject.
out of curiosity can you list which left wing figures you consider most harmful.
@@problemsolver3254 My main point is how far they go with it and how they argue. Destiny will say that trans women are women but he'll also say that they shouldn't compete in women's sports and that they should disclose their gender before sex/dating, which for them is very problematic and makes Destiny a transphobe or a Nazy.
Also the way they'll argue: "well michael phelps has a wider back than usual so maybe he shouldnt be allowed in men's sports"
or: "disclosing your gender before sex is like disclosing your political views before sex"
or a semi famous Vaush's position that it's all just language so trans women are women just like "H2O" in mexico is "agua".
Harmful left figures.. I don't follow any so I'll mainly know the one's Destiny argued with. Hasan is up there, DemonMama, Mike from PA, MrBeard, that deer gender chick whatever her name is, Kefals.
Abolish all police was very cringe as well.
I wonder what you think. Are the "team players" of the right/ left unable to critically think or do they willingly choose not to?
I really don't know. It could be some of both. I think most every person is technically able to think critically but many are functionally unable to apply a critical lens to stuff that confirms their intuitions; but idk if I'd say they willingly choose to be that way.
@@iandecent I think both side have bad actors that will do whatever those who pay them tell them to do.
those who pay them don't want to bring the 2 waring factions together because war = profit.
youtube pushing you the wrong kind of left youtubers lol.vaush and hasan are brainrots.there's plenty of left youtubers that aren't focused on drama lol
I also respect how he will go on shows with people he disagrees with & for the most part he manages to keep his cool. Atleast as opposed to hasan piker
Extremely great quality video with a lot of work put into it, though I do have to mention that Destiny and Nick F are not friends anymore due to the fact that Fuentes and his community are fine with deplatforming and brigading and Destiny said it's the reason why he stopped engaging with him.
good point. Thanks for the comment.
I don’t think they were ever friends according to destiny that was just some weird shit nick said
@@bigandsmoll881 they where not but now destiny isn't even friendly towards him because Nick's community banned one of destiny's former friends(who was also a psycho lol)
I’m much further left than destiny, but I don’t think it’s necessarily bad to be friends with bigoted people.
I have friends who are very bigoted on some things. However, they aren’t malicious people. By me being in their life, they have friends who can challenge them, and maybe plant seeds of doubt. They’re much likely to listen to a friend than some crazy person shouting at them.
This is a good way to be imo.
Thats how daryl davis does it, made like 200 people quit the kkk by just being chill.
Tho idk if he stayed friends afterwards but who knows.
Im pretty uneducated but I think people on the left can be too.
Like I dont like tokenism in movies and shows, and I get called a racist and bigot when they would deff have a problem having a black character or poc be replaced by white people.
Also I hate destiny
You ever think by being friends with them you’re enabling their bigotry?
@@richirich999 how am I enabling it? It’s not like I don’t challenge their views, and for some of them, i’ve been able to change their perspectives on certain things.
@@richirich999 you ever think by leaving them to their own thoughts with no one arguing against them or give other thoughts and get them fired from their job or shunned from the community they enjoy will just make them more aggressive towards other groups?
ok so i dont know much about this guy. From what I gathered in this video he seems like a relatively level headed person who understands nuance and reality lol. I consider myself to be left leaning but goddamn can the left be annoying af sometimes. it just seems like hes not as angry as them so therefore hes against them. Now hanging out with Nick Fuentes is an absolute fuck no for me but It's not like I would try to murder the guy if I saw him, but I definitely would not invite him to my home to hang out. I get why people may not like Destiny as a hardcore Lefty but i feel like hes a pretty ok dude with some weird opinions and motives here and there and just doesn't regurgitate what others feel obligated to say.I will joke about the most vile shit humanely possible in private with my transgender, lgbt and poc friends (granted I am black) and even they understand that i'm joking. it's not black and white y'all.
For what it's worth, I don't think Destiny has ever hung out with Nick Fuentes without also actively debating him on camera, so I think they have more of a working relationship than a friendship.
@@iandecent it makes sense i guess but i would never want to be associated with a guy like that in any way at all outside of a debate. But i can understand why people would think they're friends just from the clips shown in the video. First impressions are important and you can't blame people for having that first impression without context.
most entertaining “lefty”, it’s boring to listen to the same lefties always give the safest most predictable opinions on issues.
agreed. I disagree with Destiny on lots of stuff, but I still like to hear his take on things because he seems to think through things well and has some integrity.
Most issues are issues that people make up nowdays that's why they seem like safe predictable opinions
nice video man!
not as nice as this comment you've left me. Thanks for the support.
great video!
Thank you for watching. If this does well I'll probably make more Destiny and/or streamer related content in the future.
Great vid!
Thank you for watching!
People just can't handle people who are unbiased
Great video + cool editing.
great comment + thanks for watching
@@iandecent destiney is an intolerable maniac who have constantly defended Israel's warcrimes just like any liberal, no shit many leftists want him k*led
Of course Destiny wants to debate everyone, its the only videos and streams anyone actually watches of his. That the only reason not to debate someone is that you know you wouldn't win is a shit take
He's really good at starting fires...and then putting them out...He's like a nice guy pyromaniac...
What a weak world we live in, this "guy" is considered a hero to many.
yeah feels like he got sub bot😂
Destiny is an odd one for me. As an older person on Twitch and RUclips I sort of had a difficult time finding a streamer who I could learn from, but also relate to. I watched Hasan for about a year, but for various reasons, I stopped somewhere before the pandemic.
Instead of becoming a cringe Hasan hate watcher, I thought the next best thing would be to watch Destiny. Didn't know much about him other than s past Hasan relationship. After checking out some of his debates on RUclips, he seemed to be a more nuanced Hasan, ideology wise. Pretty much agreed with him at the same rate as Hasan, but Destiny had much more nuanced and complex topics and conversations and welcomed a debate or conversation with literally anyone. I really respected that.
But I must've joined right before one of the worst arcs ever. Red pill. lol And look, Destiny is going to look sane next to most red pillers by default, but that besides the point. I am an emotional person, and I value that trait in people I respect or respect. Destiny has to be the most unemotional person I have ever came across on the platform. lol And that lack of emotion really giveshim lack of perspective. To where he has a lot of off base and tone deaf takes when it comes to relationships and how he treats his. He is very transactional and I find it so offputting and toxic. To each other own, but as someone only a year older, I just can't relate to him on an emotional level. And logic can only get you so far, especially with topics in which you have to have emotional maturity to understand the nuances. It gives him a lot of blind spots that he can't eben consider a lot of imes. He is allowed to live his life how he pleases, but damn its anything but normal or healthy, for so many various reasons I won't ramble off. Just seems like he is forever stuck in his young edgelord, hyper contarian ways. lol
I will end this mini novel by saying that when he really wants to be, he has the rare ability to be the biggest political influencer on this platform, and that will always be a positive. I still watch a panel or debate with him on it. I respect that he isn't afraid of having tough conversations. It's definitely where he separates himself from all other content creators. But with the way he acts its difficult to recomend him to people I know, especially my age. Which is ironically Destiny's age. lol
I'm around the same age too, and I feel like Destiny is the only debate streamer that resembles anything close to reasonable. But I don't think Destiny is necessarily unemotional. To me it seems like he just has his own ideas about how how he wants his relationships to be and he is relatively unattached, or acts that way at least.
same 91 here so little older but I find destiny a perfect poster child for disosiative behaviors do to a lesser evolved left cortex (aka autistic)
this is why he's good at cutting through bullshit lies but not bullshit propaganda.
propaganda.... hasan.... paid actor.... follow the Q ! x'D (fucking kidding)
Great video
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it. I'm working on my next vid right now, so stay tuned.
Great video, just 1 more thing, which I think is the main reason. At some point (maybe 2015~?) he wasn't hated by the left, he was like the only leftist politics streamer, and his views were no different from other far leftists. But with time the left went even more to the left but Destiny stayed where he was.
The left is changing while Destiny stays where he was.
yeah, another commenter said something similar. I think there's a lot of truth to that.
Thats is a logical step cause the right approaches some fucked up narratives lately. I am not attacking anyone. just saying people react to idiocy harder
I’m definitely not from the left, and I can’t stand him.
Heres my steaming heat of a take pepole can disagree and still be friendly to each other
no that's just taking it too far
Because his politics suck. Simple.
The thumbnail for this was so shameless 🤦🏿♂️ but props for getting me to rageclick ig
I mean, that is a real tweet that Destiny made, but it was an obvious joke and nobody cared. Anyway, your click is much appreciated.
@@iandecent based clickbait
@@iandecent still clickbait as it is fairly misleading but cool video anyway
I don't like or dislike him my main problem is he reacts to emotionally to things he doesn't like
He’s a content creator he can’t just be a robot and respect to make a living. At least he actually does research and has his opinions challenged by anyone
@@isaiahpatton5558aaaaand he's succumbing to youtube's capitalist stuff by making rage bait content?
I would not necessarily say he is a talented debater more he is just annoying, it reminds of Steven crowder a bit during the change my minds, where they immediately try to shut down and ignore valid points
To add I remember him debating this economist and instead of letting the guy explain his points he kept interrupting
Like in my opinion in a debate if someone is making a point, then you let them finish before making your point against their point
Yeah, sorry bud. Your conclusion here is lunacy. The idea that the only reason one person would refuse to engage with another is that "they know they won't win" is insane.
Remember when Michael Brooks steamrolled him and all he could do was ask questions like a child? He was mad salty afterwards,too.
it's true though
Pretty good video. As someone from the middle east it is excruciatingly painful to listen to the average leftist ideas online until I found a destiny clip during the trump election. Not to suck him off but, unlike the bots on the left he arrives at his positions independently. He states his reasoning so he can be argued out of them. And most importantly, he is entertaining to watch.
yeah, Destiny is usually pretty reasonable and logically sound no matter what perspective you're coming from
can we eglolage that being a leftist and being left wing are not the same.
correct me if im wrong didn't the destiny Loren Sothern bridge burn.
are we saying that is one person refuses to debate some on for like the fifth time it means their scared
the vidioe was serviceable
I don't know if "eglolage" is even a real word, but I'm not looking it up
6:38
You are welcome
Edit. Time code correction
Destiny was on point with that one
“I do not see political differences as some intent insurmountable obstacle preventing positive personal interaction” is just a pseudo-intellectual way of saying “I believe appeasement works”
What an absolutely terminally online thing to say. You can be friends with someone without having any political goals in mind with the friendship. Appeasement doesn't even come in to it.
it's funny he said that but also watches Vsauce xD
as someone on the left who hates destiny.... i did not relate to this video at all lol
I love streamers talking about free speech and then banning everyone in the chat who says something they don't like...
Destiny does do a lot overzealous banning, but I don't think he talks much about free speech.
@@iandecent I was more talking about hasan banning anyone mentioning destiny
@@iandecent tbf he also unbans just as easily
I just find him annoying for many reasons. He’s gotten more based the older he got but he’s still goofy
that's fair
and the right we love him
He has never said incest is sometimes not wrong. I Spit my Orange? Juice out when you said
morally NEUTRAL
Soo.... this is a Positive video about Destiny. Nice! I like him too! 😊
I am a very biased Destiny supporter, so I wanted to focus on all the stupid reasons people hate Destiny. There are some good reasons to hate Destiny, such as he lets other dudes rail his wife, but I think most people on the Left are cool with that type of thing.
@@iandecent I can't tell if this is a shit post or not but you got a laugh out of me sir.
this video is definitely biased while pretending not to be. For example 8:10 , vaush reasons are reduced to just being scared to debate destiny, although it's probably a vast oversimplification, nevertheless the narrator poses it as an absolute truth. This is example was preceded by several cases of this kind, where the narrator oversimplifies arguments against destiny in his favour.
I don't pretend to be unbiased.
@@iandecent Then don't frame it as such.
I don’t care either way but with how far you’re willing to go neck deep on a smooth brain speaks volumes.. so I guess I do care
He just seems exhausting to deal with. No one wants to deal with that on a daily basis.
I'm a leftie who used to follow Hasan, but over time the dumb-guy schtick got tiresome. One of the most egregious things was whenever he would recieve criticism from a leftie he would automatically assume you're a hate watcher or in bad faith, or telling him how to do his 16 hour a day exhausting job. The guy stopped learning the moment he became a react content creator, sometime around when he was getting 2-3k veiwers. He's a head in sand himbo, which is fine. Just would rather someone more serious, and more logical take up my cause. Followed destiny in the SC2 days, but not much in between, but started again about a year after the fallout. Sucks they fell out tbh, there's a world where Hasan is an honest dude trying to persuade the undecided. It's not that Hasan is afraid of upsetting his audience, he does it all the time when they're out of line, he's just afraid of nuance and going too deep on subjects he's out of his depth on.
i never watched vaush or hasan when i became a leftist😂
Destiny Debate is real life troll . I hate Hassan
good vid, was wondering why the left doesn’t like him, but after watching the video it makes sense, but all the reasons the left doesn’t like him are some of the reasons i do lmfao
That's a narrow spectrum though. Missing at least one dimension.
it's just meant to be something to look at to keep you from getting bored while listening to me talk about something boring
Not a fan of destiny, but he is very good at making an argument and debating. You cannot deny that. I definitely Don’t agree with his politics but I’ve learnt to respect him as a human being because he is pretty reasonable when debating. Except when he called out Lex fridman for being a spineless coward.
Personally, I think Destiny is problematic for my own reasons after careful thinking and consideration of the facts. Even you semi-honest look at him makes him seem like a loser.
doesn't get into the nuances I came to see discussed. pretty surface-level analysis.
Well I analyzed your mom and, trust me, I went deep
@@iandecent She couldn't even feel it after Hasan.
@@iandecent did that come back take you as long to make as the video?
Oh come on, at least don't just regurgitate Destiny's arguments
your mom regurgitated my "argument"
@@iandecent jesus christ even the jokes ?
@@Reza-hz1ce
Your mom is a joke
BINGCHILLING
Good ol' Pepe la D
gotta love him
it's not just a meme in dgg that Hassan is a poor debater.
yeah I think it's pretty well known
Eh idk. I think people don't like him because he seems to have the need to be right even when he's very wrong. I.e. the Sam Seder debate when destiny just made it seem like Sam relentlessly covered the Rittenhouse case when Sam had only covered his promotional media appearances *after* the case.
Why the left (of liberal) hates him is easy: he's a capitalist. He's right on a lot, but has blinders up on certain subjects. He's a little too terminally online.
I strongly disagree on the first point, but that's ok. Thank you for watching.
@@iandecent I definitely exaggerated that. I mainly mean that his debate skills are a double edged sword. Sometimes he's so good at debating that he can afford to be intellectually lazy.
Anyways, it was a well edited video. Worth the like and comment.
Kyle Writtenform
Lmao
Speaking for the left I don’t hate him, 90% of what i hear/see is good. Imo he is just pragmatic to a fault
@@reiggier9211 thanks 🙏
@@reiggier9211 Wrong it is a word
3:33 bad video made in bad faith
nope
I found this video by searching "i hate destiny"
TL:DR Destiny has principles, most leftists do not.
I was never the biggest destiney guy. But at least, to me. He hasnt changed much as a Person.
I always felt like the "online left" just simply got more and more radicalized. And the individuals within that space changed with it. Going so far to having almost stalinist level takes (which some people dont think is a big deal which is wild to me) but destiney; and I think he esspecially showed this with his reasonable rittenhouse take. Tends to fall more or less where you think he will fall. He hasnt followed the radicalization.
I mean goodness. I think Vaush is so delusional and far gone he sees himself as the new Lenin lol
yeah, I think you said it well. I disagree with Destiny probably more often than I agree with him, but even when I do disagree I can still follow his logic and respect his take. The same cannot be said for most political content creators.
@@iandecent you just summarized what I meant to say better than I did lol.
Even though I may disagree more than agree with him. His constitution makes me respect him much more than the large majority of other commentators
He's more honest, he's not extremist and he's not tribalistic
agree on all points
I hate him coz he has a woman's name , we are not the same bro
great point! It also sounds like something a 9-year-old would call themself.
Him supporting Rittenhouse was the last straw for many people.
true. The Rittenhouse stuff was extremely divisive. No matter how reasonable Destiny's take was, lots of people were going to be mad about it.
@@iandecent his take was utter garbage and the backlash was well deserved tho
@@weirdautumn was it tho? in the debate with Vaush said bascilly submit to the mob while destiniy take was it is moral if you having shown a weapon and are fleeing and the people still charge at you can shoot them in defense.
What ever the opinions are I more agree moraly with destiny than Vaush take of be at the mercy of the mob
Huge amount of average people are way more like destiny then other left streamers. Not agreeing religiously with every bit of every narative is quite common. For example you can think Kyle is a little right-wing piece of sh_t while still agreeing his act was a self defence. Maybe people totally condemt police violence and systemic racism and support or even participate in blm marches...but disagree with the small amount of opportunists raiding shoes stores. And it's kinda normal and mayb even healthy to have critical and balanced approach to issues
true. In real life, most people are more centrist than all the enlightened non-centrists on twitter.
Ok. I don't know Destiny. But the first and second reason sounds very stupid. Like being friends with someone who may have different views from you,doesn't make you agree to their beliefs. There's something political people always forget its existence, it's called **the middle ground**. And some of these stuff are just crazy leftist doesn't wanna listen to anyone that slightly disagree with them. Alright before you call me a radical rightist...I have to confess that I used to watch rightist content,and now I stopped. I'm still somewhat right leaning, but I'm not the radical 'let's commit genocide against ___' rightist...ya know.
I am aware that some radical rightist are also like this,but for some reason, I see this more often wuth leftist and this is why when I try going out of rightist content circles,I just stopped watching political content entirely.
A big question is,are these the same type of people who hates Shoeonhead? If so,I am not listening to them,their reason is immediately invalid, because shoe is the most reasonable and agreeable leftist content creator.
All in all it's just ego,echo chamber, and radicalness. And like the reason he says crazy things, I can relate to that,if I were to do a rant lifestream,there's a 99% chance I'll slip out some of my crazy thoughts. He'd be better on whatever platform he can cut parts of the video that be says crazy things out.
Also leftist doing this,is actually pushing middle ground people to the right, because they think left is insane. Stop doing this,leftist,you can do better.
Also political side of social media is full of crazy and radical people, but it's somehow more radical when it comes to America...why???
The problem Destiny said in regards to Kyle Rittenhouse is that Kyle wasnt defending HIS property nor was he asked to defend it. The real thing that was problematic with Kyle is that he had a gun when he wasnt suppose to have one because he was under age therefore bringing the legal question forward if he had a right to defend himself with assult weapon.
I think he was legally allowed to have the gun, since they didn't charge him for that.
@@iandecent no he wasn't he is a miner. They just didn't charge him for it.
@@Karla-ok9qd I think it was legal because it was a "long gun". Only would be illegal if he'd had a handgun or short barrel gun.
@@Karla-ok9qd we bringing back child miners im confused or did you mean minor
For someone who doesn't even know the gun laws in the state he was in because YES he was legally allowed to own a gun, not knowing what an assault rifle is, who can't even spell "minor" correctly and who uses the word "problematic", I'd be more concerned about how indoctrinated I was and how exceedingly stupid I sound by not doing literally 1 minute of research if I were you. But hey, you do you.
I do not respect “men” that dont even take care of there partners his wife is taken care of everyone so keep coping
try again
Master debatoor
reason #5 he is a thinker
true
BETA!
can't argue with that logic
Destiny is a classic liberal. Classic liberals are more right-wing now considering how far left progressives have gone.
He’s a tame leftist that’s it
people use "classic liberal" to mean so many different things. I don't find it useful as a label at this point because I never know what ppl mean when they say it.
@@aplace5791 destiny is absolutely not a classical liberal, that refers to free market individualism with a light government. Destiny is staunchly in favor of a large welfare state with a high progressive tax rate as well as fairly progressive social positions. He’s just not FAR left but that clearly means something different if you think he’s a “classical liberal” lmao. Also he canvases for democrats..
@@bigandsmoll881, clearly you don't know anything about Destiny.
@@MsBlacknight21 what in the fuck are you on. I’ve watched destiny for half a decade. Watch literally any of his content I’m sorry if facts trigger you. Did you miss the Georgia canvassing events or the Omaha canvassing events? Democrats aren’t classical liberals they are social liberals/ social democrats. You can watch any resent podcast he’s been on where he clearly defines his economic and social beliefs. Since when is supporting higher progressive taxes to fund public healthcare and other services classical liberalism lmao
Before all else, great video man.
My main issue with him is mostly his hyperbolic statements. It’s not like hyperbole is a problem to me, it’s more the manner and tone he does when he does it. Part of the problem is that the more egregious examples that he later has to water down seem like examples of him acting on emotion before really thinking about it. not to mention his tone when he’s being hyperbolic or joking is very similar to how he can sound when he’s angry. In my experience, it makes it difficult to know if he genuinely feels that way or if he’s playing it up for the camera. Often coming of as spiteful when he talks about anyone he dislikes. Dude just needs to chill out.
Destiny just went on a bit of a rant about this recently (I saw the clip today, so I'm guessing it was yesterday). Basically he said he's going to ban anyone in his subreddit that expresses concern for his initial hyperbolic reactions to things.
@@iandecent based
Lmao yeah don’t even try it. It’s “GTAB” szn
@@iandecent It's not concern over hyperbole that gets banned, it's concern over concern over hyperbole if that makes sense. A lot of people in the community will talk about how things might look to a hypothetical outsider, rather than themselves, which he's gotten tired of dealing with because it essentially lets people criticize him for things without actually believing that critique, which has turned out frustrating. That's my understanding anyway.
I love Destiny, at least he doesn't defend cp and is not a hypocrite about eating the rich. he's the best
yeah but he lets other guys bang his wife
nice video I liked all the kitties and dogs
browsing through cute animal videos was definitely one of the highlights of the editing process
I liked those too
Reason 4 is a weird take. Just because someone doesn't want to debate Destiny, doesn't mean Destiny is superior debater or that the other isn't able to argue their beliefs. If they don't find debating the other person productive by any means, why do it? Seems like one of those 'if they didnt agree to go on drama alert, they must be guilty' mentalities
Because Destiny is right wing. Simple as that.
Would you say that Joe Biden is right wing?
@@iandecent nope
I like Destiny a lot
I do too. I don't always agree with him, but he's cool.
@@iandecent I’d say I agree with him like 85% of the time. I like him because I learn a lot by watching him
This was pretty good!
My only concern though is that for a “Why everyone on the LEFT hates Destiny”, not mentioning a lot of the Drama baiting he has been doing is a pretty big deal on why I don’t like him so I’m surprised that wasn’t listed. Even his own community has drawn ire on why Destiny has just been farming drama threads instead of actual politics.
But I think you were trying your best in good faith to convince people that have already been lost in the sauce, which is pretty hard to do. The moment anyone hears bad things about their favorite steamer, they will plug their ears pretty easily.
I hope you do more, this was pretty refreshing from the other vids RUclipsrs make regarding content creators!
good point about the drama. I'm definitely going to continue making videos. I'm working on research for the next one right now.
I'm a 100% lefty and Destiny is my favorite streamer by far
yeah, there's still a decent amount of lefty and left-leaning regular folks that enjoy Destiny's content
Why though? He is a progressive liberal through and through and anti-left in all his political positions.
Dont... dont tell me you think being progressive makes you a leftist... pls 😬
@@egggge4752 "Why though? He is a progressive liberal through and through and anti-left in all his political positions"
I think you are very confused.
If he is a progressive liberal (I agree he is) that is a left position.
He is to the left of almost every US politician.
"Dont... dont tell me you think being progressive makes you a leftist... pls 😬"
Being a progressive means you are firmly on the left of politics but not a leftist.
A leftist is a relatively new term for socialist or communist.
These are radical far left positions almost no one agrees with.
@@henryburton6529 there is no far left. Either you are some form of labour advocate (social democrat to communist) or you are right wing (liberal to conservative).
You could also be some third position like fascism. But no, reformist liberalism (what progressivism is) is pro status quo and reactionary.
Even social democracy is on the edge of being right wing since its german thoughtleaders crushed the german revolution because they were afraid of loosing their office jobs in parlament.
@eggge4752
You are a bot. JFC.
destiny is my comfort content creator, he is the goat.
Destiny is a smart man that happens to be on the left, others are just smart because they are on the left .. ( at least they want to be)
good way to put it
I think reason 2-3 are the main reasons why people don't like Destiny. I also think the dude is just not a leftist, he says he is, but then proceeds to have strange, bad or borderline right-wing political beliefs. He is all over the place and sure-footed all at once. Destiny likes challenging people and then using his "logic" to "help" them understand how things "should" be. When he is challenged, or even attacked for things he says or believes that are insane, he questions it, responds with a challenge of his own or just outright mocks the other side's point-of-view in a formally condescending (or informal if its like a streamer or something) manner.
Overtime he only gets worse really and hopefully dude gets banned on RUclips too because Destiny is only a good debater, he ISNT a morally good person.
I generally don't understand your point, as a right-wing person. Destiny simply isn't on the right and all his solutions to moral and political issues generally fall on the left. So I get the guy is an asshole when he is debating but he has shown that he thinks through the issues he talks about and you can always understand where he's coming from. An asshole yes, immoral i would say no.
@@victoryudoh4626 I didn’t say he was exactly right-winged. I said he has beliefs that are “strange, bad or BORDERLINE right-wing”. If I were to say what belief system he is I wouldn’t really be able to tell you because he really doesn’t fit neatly in any of them. If you forced me to pick I would maybe say like a centrist with a big BIG ego about it. But even that doesn’t work because he’s anything but neutral about anything, he loves having a “take” about literally everything. But yeah I would say he’s a pretty bad guy and idk why you came on here and said that, you just self-reported tbh.
Destiny doesn't really debate. What he does is pretty much steam roll and manipulate. That's why there is no third party moderater to keep "debaters" on topic.
Destiny has done probably dozens of moderated debates
Good video and I think Destiny has been largely unfairly maligned by the left. But I think this video isn't telling the whole truth about why Vaush won't debate Destiny.
Destiny is so full of hatred and bitterness towards Vaush that he gets way too emotional about it. There's no point debating someone who has such strong feelings towards you. Maybe once Destiny calms down there is a chance of reconciliation
Thank you for watching and commenting. From what I've seen, Vaush is more bitter and emotional toward Destiny than vice-versa (theie panel discussion on hanging chads and fascism is a good example). But I'm not gonna act like I have the full context plus I'm a Destiny fan so I'm biased.
i used to be a Destiny fan but ive become disillusioned by him the past couple of years. He seems to have become increasingly reactionary and spiteful and contradicts his own views if it means dunking on a person he hates. When he implied that neonazis and white nationalists like fuentes and southern are more moral than the leftists he had fights with, it made me realize his idea of morality is how nice someone is to him, even if that person is openly bigoted. His unhinged obsession with Hasan and Vaush also made me realize that Destiny needs therapy.
Tell me you are a Vaush fan without saying you are a Vaush fan
@@e87w76 I'm lukewarm on Vaush. I like some of his takes and think others are misguided. I do prefer him to Destiny though
Steven has not changed much over the years aside from changes in ways he engages with people which he talks about openly. He is like the least spiteful person out there and does not care about grudges lol. Your observations are just so off. He's been open to talking to Vaush the entire time. You've been manipulated by the spiteful caricatures of him created by unhinged lefties
@@e87w76 nonsense. I've been watching Destiny for over 6 years now. I've see the change first hand. He is openly spiteful all the time. You can bury your head in the sand if you like but I'm not even a Vaush fan- I'm a former Destiny fan who has been turned off by his behaviour over the past couple years
They hate Destiny because he's always spitting facts no matter what side.
Btw background persona music 👍
persona 5 ost is one of the best in video game history
@@iandecent Absolutely based, dude.
Love Destiny
Me too
@@iandecent he is Zionist Destiny 🤡🤡clown
#JonTronWasRight
Ian decent Instagram please
I want to follow your life
I don't use instagram. I have twitter, but so far I haven't posted on it much at all.
#4. madcuzbad
pretty much