quick shifting is the best way by far to handle this type of transmission, I tried the "power shifting technique " and yeah the Mt82 don't like that so much,, especially at a sticky track, so i tried quick shifting it, and yes finally ran a best of 12.6 @116mph , 60 foot sucked but not bad for a bonestock coyote, and yes no"tune" i mean "Stock" so it definitely comes down to how you treat the mt82,
Same lol. As explained in the video! If quick shifting is done properly, there's no need to power shift! I've never tried power shifting in my M6 car or previous because they were my only car's at the time.
@@jamesvwalker268 I wouldn't say there is no need for powershifting. If you are good at quick shifting there will be very minimal difference BUT powershifting is still ultimately the quickest way and will give quickest ets. However on something like an mt82 it's prob best to just quick shift if you have a more stout trans like a 6060 or magnum or t56 you can powershift but you gotta be quick with it. If you can't shift fast don't try power shifting. Sit there car off and go from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 as fast as you can move the shifter. That is how fast you should be shifting while driving if powershifting. If you aren't shifting that fast don't try power shifting. I can do both real good I've got over 20 years experience driving nothing but manuals even my dailies have all been manual I'm pretty good at it but it takes alot of practice and you gotta have good coordination. If you can't multitask it can be difficult I'm sure. Your arm and leg have to be moving simultaneously not one then the other. There shouldn't be any hesitation between shifts. When you hear someone shifting it should almost pretty much sound like an auto if you here a little hesitation or space between shifts it ain't fast enough. Few people can do it these days and the numbers are getting fewer and fewer. The autos are quick now so everyone just goes the lazy way and gets an auto so it can do all the work for them. I love the art of driving manual both normally and spirited there is nothing like it. If you got the driver mod you aren't leaving much performance on the table not being auto ecspecially from a roll like typical street races.
Finally someone makes a video about this issue. Most people don't know how to drive. I've owned my fair share of Foxbody mustangs and the T5 wasn't that bad as long as you knew how to drive. I read all the time that the MT82 is shit. when has a mustang ever come out that you slap a supercharger on it and make 670hp and the trans be able to take it. Never, that's when. A T5 with some power behind would turn to shit after a while. To have a stock MT82 and make that kind of power with that amount of mileage goes to show that the trans is good. I have a 2016 GT with the MT 82 and haven't had an issue yet with 15,000 miles on it. Good video.
Outstanding video review! Subscribed. Been driving Mustangs forever but never researched the proper way to really shift fast and efficiently without breaking the trans. I currently own 2012 5.0 for almost half a year now and still baby the transmission until I get the hang of it. I had a 2001 GT and did break it before long ago. Great video!
I was unaware that this was something that had to be taught. I always thought it was common sense to lift the throttle when shifting to avoid drive line damage. Guess I learned something new by learning nothing new :)
@@BIGWILL0715 powershifting don't redline your motor between shifts if you shift fast dude lol. He's talking about when you try powershifting and don't shift quick enough (like most). I can powershift the hell out of my 6060 in my 07 gt500 no issues. Never missed a gear (mgw shifter) never bounced off the limiter none of that nonsense. Powershifting can be done with a more stout trans if you can actually shift fast enough its fine I've done it for years. To keep the mt82 alive ecspecially at high power levels its best to quick shift like he was saying in the video. I can powershift or quick shift good I do both. When I'm going all out or racing I usually powershift. When I'm just doing fun street pulls I don't always powershift I'll quick shift. You gotta be quick with the shifts or don't try powershifting. Move the shifter car off quick as you can through the gears that is how fast you should be shifting while driving if you're attempting powershifts if you aren't shifting that fast don't try it you'll bounce off the limiter like Alex was saying. Arm and leg has to be moving at same time.
after i upgraded to aluminator 5.0L my frist clutch was a McLeod rst and calimer mt-82d stage 1. McLeod recommends turning off the trac control. Reverse was tough to get into plus 1st. after 10k no racing or burn outs reverse crapped out. just got gt back with calimer mt-82d stage 2 from Ben calimer. smooth as butter. Rest of upgades VMP tune roush cold induction pedders coil overs w external canisters bmr k brace & stop the hop rear braces by bmr fhp front strut brace bmr rear strut brace bmr and steeda completed suspension mods DDS drive line fhp differential w steeda brace g force half shafts roush cold induction mangnaflow competention three inch exhaust dw-400 fuel pump cold case radiator fhp high output alternator odyssey amg battery autosport roll cage sve rims 10ft 11r MCH pilot sport mishimoto radiator reserve. EBC rotors.
and I would not but another McLeod rst the fins where angle up, my mechanic claimed it was defective. p.s. My shop has a monster truck that they west side coast compete with. Mantic 9000 is better and calimer mt-82d stage 2 is the way to roll. stage 3 if your turbo or supercharger.
Love your videos. Such a relief to watch someone that knows what they are talking about. In this world where everyone is an expert in their own mind. No bull and all facts backed up by experience. Keep up the good work. Learning more with every video
what i ended up doing to my 12 5.0 was making a shift knob out of a bmx peg. yes it did make the throw even longer being taller than stock but it kept my elbow from hitting the center console and so far ive never missed a shift when im realy getting on it.
The T5 wasn't terrible. Same situation it was mainly the clutch selection but if you added some protection like a steal bearing retainer then it'll live with some slicks on wheels up launches
been driving t5s in fox bodies and other transmission swapped mustangs, I love them and the only problem I ever had with one was when I improperly installed an input shaft (aka not the transmissions fault). I've beaten probably 7 or 8 t5 transmissions MERCILESSLY and they've never let me down
Naw some of them just trying to win a race no matter what 😂, my friend almost never loses a race, but is on his 3rd mt82, and has a built 6060 waiting to be installed
Yeah exacly you have to know how to drive it without beat on it. powershifting is killer on mt82, I lift my foot off gas always and I've ran a high 11 low 12 with exhaust and drag radial with 2 step, quick shifting is how these transmissions work
Thank you! I was just about to ditch my MT-82. Now I know I have too much clutch for it. I have an RXT currently and I still get lock out in 4th sometimes from 2-3rd.
I had 85 Mustang 5.0 5 speed for 10 years with a stock shifter and I never busted my transmission or blew it out and I pretty much shift the same way you do
Luckily my '90 came with the later WC T5. The earlier World Class models had a lower torque rating. It'll be on borrowed time with the combo I'm working on now.
"Ive only busted one stock T5 trans,and my stroked bored,juiced 86 notch when 10.60s all day in the summer heat on a stock t5 trans with a aftermath flywheel and clutch"
Purchased a Steeda braided clutch line + fluid supply line and lockout is FINALLY GONE. Shifting at 7000+ all day. Stock lines were absolute garbage. Stock clutch + supercharged made a world of a difference
I am picking up a 2017 Manual GT this Thursday it only has 8,909 Miles in her.. And these video's are making me nervous, Like I should have got the auto.. I never had issues driving manuals when I was young, My old 76 F250 had the Granny Gear, I would have to start off in second.. And I have never had issues shift before so I think people are making way to big of a deal out of this Rev Matching.. We used to have to give every manual a little rev to down shift and get the sicro's to help in slip in easyier.. I think I'll be fine..
I have owned 3 mustangs with mt82 and all three have had problems getting locked out of the gears especially in cold weather. The mt82 is trash as far as drivability goes however like you stated it can definitely hold large amount of power. Good video though.
Wait so if I'm getting this right, there are people who keep their foot on the throttle mid-shift? Wtf does that not immediately seem like it'd be harmful?
Say bicho, I went thru several T5's years ago. Like Hanna Montana, coming thru like a wrecking ball... They was good until I started speed shifting trying to gap a bicho. Never let off the gas like a bicho, bicho.
I’ve never power shifted mines lol and people mistake it for an auto all the time!! I’ve never power shifted any car actually a proper quick shift is all that is needed and is so less stressful. Preload the shifter(meaning have light pressure on the shifter as if pulling it to the next gear) the second you come off the throttle and transmission will slip into neutral doing this which means your only clutching as you row into he next gear. It sounds like allot but you can see how it pops off really really quickly cuz the second you lift off the throttle is a millisecond before you depress the clutch(always) to the floor in a quick stomping action while simultaneously rowing into the next gear and waallaaa! Lol seem less shifts people will think it’s an auto if your doing it right!
@Alejandro Flores I shift very fast as well and I have noticed (with two different MT-82 vehicles) that if you shift fast enough into 4th, you will trip up the computer and it won't know what you did. When this happens, the rpms will stay at the current value and will do nothing while you have the throttle down - you have to lift off the throttle and then get back into it. I have lost a few races because of this. Have you, or anybody else experience this problem? Motor Trend, or Car & Driver (I don't remember which one) actually talked about this in one of their '15 Eco Boost reviews.
Yeah, You don't want to power shift this trans seriously.. I am just guessing from only 4 months of ownership but it feels like it needs, Like most people say, a Clutch line, and a better quality of clutch for sure.. I want want my clutch to feel smooth like it could have come from factory but strong enough to handle 700 wheel JK.. I am looking to keep my car legal but I still want a Supercharger and I accept slightly over 600ish wheel is about all you can get safely for daily use with stock headers and cats on 93 pump, and I am fine with it. I not looking to spend a ton but screws are a must have down the road for me..
I supercharged my 11' at 28,000mi and immediately the clutch was slipping. I did an Exedy Mach500 spring hub design and it worked well. My-82 also performs well double clutching I found. You loose time on tracking but on back roads it was perfect.
I have the RST also with the alumi flywheel. When it heats up after long driving I notice chatter and vibration letting out the clutch at slow speeds and low RPMs . You notice anyhthing like that??
3rd gear Lock out is BS too. So many grip the shifter hard like their life depends on it and direct it. 1st to 2nd pull back to the left, 2nd to 3rd let shifter spring over push forward. 3rd to 4th is simple, 4th to 5th push it over to right. I've had 2011 GT wasn't best shifter it was ok did go to MGW shifter and then race spec. Now 2015 GT shifter not bad just haven't put MGW race spec in yet
There must just be something wrong with my car. I have always shifted lightning fast with zero effort. Now I have a 22gt 6sp and I miss literally every single gear I try to make at WOT. Just driving normal 1-2 and 2-3 shifts feel like the gears are clashing together. 3rd will sometimes kinda punch back at you as you try to make the gear change. Car had 9k miles when I bought it
Did you have to have a crank tune? Im reading that after some flywheel changes the car will through misfire codes. Thats what mine is doing after installing this clutch????
Don’t think the t-5 was nothing like your saying. Had several cars with it. Drag raced them with slicks and never broke one. Still have an 85 with one that shift perfect.
ok here we go, whooh whooh push clutch in past the friction point put the shift lever into the next gear let clutch out get back on accelerator repeat when necessary
Shattered 3rd gear in my buddies 95 5.0 in a powershift. Everyone thought I missed the gear and bent the shift fork. I know I didn't miss. Shift fork was perfect LOL
Old comment but back in the day I broke the 3-4shift fork in my t45 in my 97 cobra just mild bolt ons and 410 gears...had the garbage king cobra clutch kit in it...shattered the disc in several pieces and it wasnt that old at all...never again...and I didnt miss the gear...banged 3rd hard...went to shift to 4th and it would not come out of 3rd...stopped and turned the car off...put it in 3rd started it back up and it was rattling like crazy found out why later when I seen the clutch disc in pieces but I drove it home like that it was God awful lol. Not sure what exactly caused the damage unless I just shifted it too hard or something idk...those trans didnt like to take much abuse I had a basically stock cobra but I was speed shifting at 7k so...
I have a tr6060 in my camaro and it's night and day compared to my buddies '14 5.0, I don't mind the mt82 though, just the stock shifter itself is mushy.
The problem is they have never driven a manual from the 70's and 80's or 90's for that matter. And what's happening is that maybe they drove a 2005 and up Honda Manual and they go from that smooth feel to this notchy clunky feel and think Oh this is Bad.. My first Car/Truck was a 1976 F250 start off in second gear because 1st was a granny gear.. I can shift my freaking ass off when I have too. But I honestly shift early and baby my car. I'm not super hard on the stock shifter but every once in a while I gotta Bang second and third..
AOD2874 hell yeah brother that's what I have on my 2012 gt and so far with 38,000 miles and the awesome Barton shifter with two post bracket...my mt82 is doing just fine! Just street driven not at the track😉👍🏻
Sweet Dreams is the MGW that much better? I have the full Barton set up on mine and it's ehhhh still sloppy in my opinion. I miss the solid as a rock T5-T56. Is it worth the $500+ bucks
shelby14 sweet I can't recommend the shifter enough. The first time I sat in the car and rowed it through the gears I couldn't shut up about how amazing it felt. I can 100% vouch for the MGW shifter as being a good product. For reference I bought the X-spec with the longer shaft because I didn't want to go too short. I'm far from a novice with a stick and would miss gears with the Barton more than I'd like to admit, but it's actually hard to miss gears with the MGW.
Thanks YoloDB. I can never do it. I cringe at the thought of grinding gears. Can you please show us how to practice from granny shifting and progressing to YoloDB level shifting?
My problem is when i try to shift quick, my car jumps cause i can’t shift smoothly. When i shift slow then i can drive perfectly. How do i shift quick and smooth?
pretty much if you're gonna shift quick you're gonna have to level out the gas quicker but what's important is to give it the same amount of gas wen you level out as before you were shifting. If you shift quick but level out slow and give it less throttle than before, you're gonna jerk. It really depends on the RPM's if you shift quick, you're not giving the car enough time to fully bring down the RPMS which in turn would require more gas so it doesn't jerk
the t5 is fine its not super strong and theres alot of after market parts to help that but they wouldnt break that easily my motor isnt stock and its fine even with the old nwc 2.8 v6 t5 i had to use because i needed something for the time being (but i have a wc now for my 85 firebir)d could shift any gear fast you just cant shot load them into gear you gotta get the throttle time between shifting right and the wc 2.95 1st is the best idk what problems you mean
@alejandroflores for the s550 platform, i am thinking of getting the Barton shifter as well. now i am thinking of going the trans mount way. what would be your opinion. thanks in advance
I mean my 2017 mustang gt is rough to drive unless you practice a lot . The first gear will jump out like 3 times a week … I’m just saying you should probably get an automatic gt 10 speed
Alejandro Flores Bro you address all this other shit, but miss a huge issue with Coyote 5.0's. They burn tons of oil. Fck my 2011 TVS goes through a quart every 500miles. But i blast it to multiple 7200rpm runs every day. Still it shouldn't burn a quart every 500miles. I run a Moroso oil separator which keeps intake clean, and my spark plugs are spotless and dry. Have no clue why these things drink oil, maybe you can fill me in.
Good vid, the only problem I have is the choice I made regarding the fluid. I went with the Amsoil Manual Transmission & Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90. The fluid is fine when warm, not so good cold. When cold I have to go from 1st to 3rd until it's warmed up, after that shifts great. I'm curios what fellow Mustang owners run in their mt82? Anyone use the Amsoil Manual Synchromesh Transmission Fluid 5W-30? Royal Purple synchromax? Now I wish I had just left the Ford fluid in there. Your thoughts?
Scotty N I've heard great things about the royal purple syncromax oil. Shifts are supposed to be super smooth and feel way better. I'm gonna put it in this week :)
Is there any way to raise the engagement point on these stock clutches? On my old 2v it engaged at the tip of the clutch so I could bang gears no problem and damn near make it sound like a dual clutch, but with these guys engaging all the way at the bottom it definitely slows down my shifts.
I have a s197 2012 Coyote. What do you think about 373 gears? That is what I chose for mine off the showroom. I am almost full bolt ons and was looking into clutches , to replace the stock one. I am around 67k miles. You made a comment about SPEC clutches that raised and eyebrow. I am going for longevity with my build and you mentioned those were rough on MT82s. I have never heard this and thanks for sharing the info.
Honestly I cant drive stick. Use to have an old maxima way back that was manual. Drove it a bit. But man driving stick must feel way more exciting when going wot
I would have to say the worse trans is the 3650 used in the new edge mustangs... I broke 3rd gear on my 02 I used to have and it was stock with bolt ons
I disagree. My friend has a bolt on 04 mach with the 3650 and even with bad syncros on 2nd it takes all the abuse we can throw at it like a champ. We actually have half-assed tried and CANT break it. (Cheaper to buy a new one than rebuild the current one) Ive even done several passes with the thing and i cant shift for shit
That’s quite an accomplishment. Honda transmissions probably have some of the weakest synchros on the planet. At least the older B and D series transmissions did. You could almost never find one that didn’t grind going into third and fourth.
hey bro i love watching your videos, i have a quick question for you, i have a 2013 with some bolts on, i want to replace the clutch and i know you are an expert on this, what clutch do you recomend
My dad's '14 GT is stuck in 4th gear, can't go into any other gear, won't come out of gear. Idk what the problem is, its got 200,000 miles on it. That could be the problem lol
I've got the Barton short shifter with the two post bracket, and it's a lot heavier of a shift from stock. I'm hesitant to push too hard to get the car in gear (don't wanna burn my synchros) and I think that my timid shifts are causing the gears to nibble a little going into 2nd and sometimes 3rd or 4th. I've only got 60k and it was stock and lady driven before I bought it. Should I be unafraid of shoving the shifter harder into gears, or do I have a bigger problem?
Picked a random video to ask this because i respect your opinion on coyote tuning and thought of you while contemplating tuning etc. Long story short I have a road race s197. I'm building a naturally aspirated voodoo/coyote/mmr based build with a dry sump etc. As far as the computer is concerned should i even bother with a standalone computer system? Is the stock computer going to cut it in my case? I would like to retain OBDII compliance. The build is just going to be very custom.
Do you have skip skip shift with the 2011 I have the 2012 skip shift mt82 if your really quick shifting does it bypass that skip shift? Or am I just stuck with it. Such a nice car but this feature is terrible is there Anything I can do? 5.0 premium cs/gt
I have no problems with my 2014 5.0 50 thousand miles on it all stock manual clutch is great but I do not power shift her either.... I also bought the car brand new and I was 35 so I will not destroy it
I've got an N2MB sitting here for the purpose of possibly saving some hell on the transmission between gears, still hesitant to chop up the wiring to install it. . especially if it's not going to help or even make things worse
when drag racing, i keep getting high rpm lockout in every gear on my 2013 gt with an og barton shifter, and the pedal keeps getting stuck to the floor. im thinking its my 90,000 mile clutch, the shifter isnt on right, or i probably just suck. not sure if there any other factors involved
Clutches in stock form on these cars suck. High RPM the pressure plate over centers and will not return to normal until RPM drop somthe pedal stays half way until that happens. Note , I have the spring removed as well as larger hydronic line to throw out
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quick shifting is the best way by far to handle this type of transmission, I tried the "power shifting technique " and yeah the Mt82 don't like that so much,, especially at a sticky track, so i tried quick shifting it, and yes finally ran a best of 12.6 @116mph , 60 foot sucked but not bad for a bonestock coyote, and yes no"tune" i mean "Stock" so it definitely comes down to how you treat the mt82,
Christopher Gallegos What RPM did you launched at? Did you ride the clutch?
I've been driving stick for over 10 years and I've never power shifted ever lol. Nice shifting
Same lol. As explained in the video! If quick shifting is done properly, there's no need to power shift! I've never tried power shifting in my M6 car or previous because they were my only car's at the time.
Thanks Tech n9ne, its nice to know that you drive manual cars too.
@@chrishernandez2490 that ain't techn9ne lmfaooooooo!!!!
@@jamesvwalker268 I wouldn't say there is no need for powershifting. If you are good at quick shifting there will be very minimal difference BUT powershifting is still ultimately the quickest way and will give quickest ets. However on something like an mt82 it's prob best to just quick shift if you have a more stout trans like a 6060 or magnum or t56 you can powershift but you gotta be quick with it. If you can't shift fast don't try power shifting. Sit there car off and go from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 as fast as you can move the shifter. That is how fast you should be shifting while driving if powershifting. If you aren't shifting that fast don't try power shifting. I can do both real good I've got over 20 years experience driving nothing but manuals even my dailies have all been manual I'm pretty good at it but it takes alot of practice and you gotta have good coordination. If you can't multitask it can be difficult I'm sure. Your arm and leg have to be moving simultaneously not one then the other. There shouldn't be any hesitation between shifts. When you hear someone shifting it should almost pretty much sound like an auto if you here a little hesitation or space between shifts it ain't fast enough. Few people can do it these days and the numbers are getting fewer and fewer. The autos are quick now so everyone just goes the lazy way and gets an auto so it can do all the work for them. I love the art of driving manual both normally and spirited there is nothing like it. If you got the driver mod you aren't leaving much performance on the table not being auto ecspecially from a roll like typical street races.
Finally someone makes a video about this issue. Most people don't know how to drive. I've owned my fair share of Foxbody mustangs and the T5 wasn't that bad as long as you knew how to drive. I read all the time that the MT82 is shit. when has a mustang ever come out that you slap a supercharger on it and make 670hp and the trans be able to take it. Never, that's when. A T5 with some power behind would turn to shit after a while. To have a stock MT82 and make that kind of power with that amount of mileage goes to show that the trans is good. I have a 2016 GT with the MT 82 and haven't had an issue yet with 15,000 miles on it. Good video.
not if it's an automatic it isn't.
2011 GT 120k its together so far lmao
Instantly improved my shifting implementing these steps! Even fooled a buddy of mine thinking I was "power shifting", thanks yolo dbag
Shifting like a boss! That's how we do it son!
Damn!!! Alejandro can fucking shift!!!
I know, was going to make fun of him but it was pretty freaking impressive lol..
Outstanding video review! Subscribed. Been driving Mustangs forever but never researched the proper way to really shift fast and efficiently without breaking the trans. I currently own 2012 5.0 for almost half a year now and still baby the transmission until I get the hang of it. I had a 2001 GT and did break it before long ago. Great video!
I was unaware that this was something that had to be taught. I always thought it was common sense to lift the throttle when shifting to avoid drive line damage. Guess I learned something new by learning nothing new :)
Right I thought that was a given like duh why would you redline your motor in between shifts.
@@BIGWILL0715 powershifting don't redline your motor between shifts if you shift fast dude lol. He's talking about when you try powershifting and don't shift quick enough (like most). I can powershift the hell out of my 6060 in my 07 gt500 no issues. Never missed a gear (mgw shifter) never bounced off the limiter none of that nonsense. Powershifting can be done with a more stout trans if you can actually shift fast enough its fine I've done it for years. To keep the mt82 alive ecspecially at high power levels its best to quick shift like he was saying in the video. I can powershift or quick shift good I do both. When I'm going all out or racing I usually powershift. When I'm just doing fun street pulls I don't always powershift I'll quick shift. You gotta be quick with the shifts or don't try powershifting. Move the shifter car off quick as you can through the gears that is how fast you should be shifting while driving if you're attempting powershifts if you aren't shifting that fast don't try it you'll bounce off the limiter like Alex was saying. Arm and leg has to be moving at same time.
after i upgraded to aluminator 5.0L my frist clutch was a McLeod rst and calimer mt-82d stage 1. McLeod recommends turning off the trac control. Reverse was tough to get into plus 1st. after 10k no racing or burn outs reverse crapped out. just got gt back with calimer mt-82d stage 2 from Ben calimer. smooth as butter. Rest of upgades VMP tune roush cold induction pedders coil overs w external canisters bmr k brace & stop the hop rear braces by bmr fhp front strut brace bmr rear strut brace bmr and steeda completed suspension mods DDS drive line fhp differential w steeda brace
g force half shafts roush cold induction mangnaflow competention three inch exhaust dw-400 fuel pump cold case radiator fhp high output alternator odyssey amg battery autosport roll cage sve rims 10ft 11r MCH pilot sport mishimoto radiator reserve.
EBC rotors.
and I would not but another McLeod rst the fins where angle up, my mechanic claimed it was defective. p.s. My shop has a monster truck
that they west side coast compete with. Mantic 9000 is better and calimer mt-82d stage 2 is the way to roll. stage 3 if your turbo or supercharger.
I now own a 2016 and changing to a MGW shifter was the best thing I could've done for the trans
Hopefully doing this soon
Love your videos. Such a relief to watch someone that knows what they are talking about. In this world where everyone is an expert in their own mind. No bull and all facts backed up by experience. Keep up the good work. Learning more with every video
what i ended up doing to my 12 5.0 was making a shift knob out of a bmx peg. yes it did make the throw even longer being taller than stock but it kept my elbow from hitting the center console and so far ive never missed a shift when im realy getting on it.
The T5 wasn't terrible. Same situation it was mainly the clutch selection but if you added some protection like a steal bearing retainer then it'll live with some slicks on wheels up launches
Thanks a lot, my dad had 2011 California special, always wanted a mustang since.
My 87 Fox-Body chipped tooth on third gear.. long time ago when I was 18 years old... long time ago. Going on year and half on my 2017 GT, 6 speed.
if you're really trying to save the transmission don't throw your whole arm just flick of the wrist
Had to learn that, always saw fast drivers slamming it into gear at redline, but mt82 don’t need to be shifted past 7k
@@9drewbreez but the coyote does
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been driving t5s in fox bodies and other transmission swapped mustangs, I love them and the only problem I ever had with one was when I improperly installed an input shaft (aka not the transmissions fault). I've beaten probably 7 or 8 t5 transmissions MERCILESSLY and they've never let me down
Nice vid. I remember the T5 from back in my fox body GT days lol. I like the technique you apply to your shifts.
Its all them high schoolers with daddys money that tear them synchros up. Thats all i see.
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Naw some of them just trying to win a race no matter what 😂, my friend almost never loses a race, but is on his 3rd mt82, and has a built 6060 waiting to be installed
Yeah exacly you have to know how to drive it without beat on it. powershifting is killer on mt82, I lift my foot off gas always and I've ran a high 11 low 12 with exhaust and drag radial with 2 step, quick shifting is how these transmissions work
I trust this guy and everything he says
I'm getting ready to buy one of these. Thanks for the info.
test make sure u this is not first manual transmission
Interesting you say that about a T5. I put 2,000 passes powershifting mine and it didn't break bc of me. Can't wait to powershift my 2019 GT!
Thank you! I was just about to ditch my MT-82. Now I know I have too much clutch for it. I have an RXT currently and I still get lock out in 4th sometimes from 2-3rd.
What clutch are you running now?
I had 85 Mustang 5.0 5 speed for 10 years with a stock shifter and I never busted my transmission or blew it out and I pretty much shift the same way you do
All the way different transmission
Luckily my '90 came with the later WC T5. The earlier World Class models had a lower torque rating. It'll be on borrowed time with the combo I'm working on now.
Alejandro nice shifting brother and great video explaining the two differences of techniques, and damn your mustang is bitchin keep up the great vids!
Your videos are great... keep up the good work... helps me out a lot
I swear I got PTSD when he said "T5"
T-5... I blew 3rd gear like you said. I had a T5 on my old Fox-Body GT
"Ive only busted one stock T5 trans,and my stroked bored,juiced 86 notch when 10.60s all day in the summer heat on a stock t5 trans with a aftermath flywheel and clutch"
Purchased a Steeda braided clutch line + fluid supply line and lockout is FINALLY GONE. Shifting at 7000+ all day. Stock lines were absolute garbage. Stock clutch + supercharged made a world of a difference
Damn I love hearing this right after I just out a Spec Clutch in my car.. 💀
I am picking up a 2017 Manual GT this Thursday it only has 8,909 Miles in her.. And these video's are making me nervous, Like I should have got the auto.. I never had issues driving manuals when I was young, My old 76 F250 had the Granny Gear, I would have to start off in second.. And I have never had issues shift before so I think people are making way to big of a deal out of this Rev Matching.. We used to have to give every manual a little rev to down shift and get the sicro's to help in slip in easyier.. I think I'll be fine..
nice video.. very informative. thanks
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I have owned 3 mustangs with mt82 and all three have had problems getting locked out of the gears especially in cold weather. The mt82 is trash as far as drivability goes however like you stated it can definitely hold large amount of power. Good video though.
i bought a ford racing short shifter
replacing the stock
car comes out of storage this week
install very soon
Wait so if I'm getting this right, there are people who keep their foot on the throttle mid-shift? Wtf does that not immediately seem like it'd be harmful?
Say bicho, I went thru several T5's years ago. Like Hanna Montana, coming thru like a wrecking ball... They was good until I started speed shifting trying to gap a bicho. Never let off the gas like a bicho, bicho.
I’ve never power shifted mines lol and people mistake it for an auto all the time!! I’ve never power shifted any car actually a proper quick shift is all that is needed and is so less stressful.
Preload the shifter(meaning have light pressure on the shifter as if pulling it to the next gear) the second you come off the throttle and transmission will slip into neutral doing this which means your only clutching as you row into he next gear. It sounds like allot but you can see how it pops off really really quickly cuz the second you lift off the throttle is a millisecond before you depress the clutch(always) to the floor in a quick stomping action while simultaneously rowing into the next gear and waallaaa! Lol seem less shifts people will think it’s an auto if your doing it right!
@Alejandro Flores I shift very fast as well and I have noticed (with two different MT-82 vehicles) that if you shift fast enough into 4th, you will trip up the computer and it won't know what you did. When this happens, the rpms will stay at the current value and will do nothing while you have the throttle down - you have to lift off the throttle and then get back into it. I have lost a few races because of this. Have you, or anybody else experience this problem? Motor Trend, or Car & Driver (I don't remember which one) actually talked about this in one of their '15 Eco Boost reviews.
Yeah, You don't want to power shift this trans seriously.. I am just guessing from only 4 months of ownership but it feels like it needs, Like most people say, a Clutch line, and a better quality of clutch for sure.. I want want my clutch to feel smooth like it could have come from factory but strong enough to handle 700 wheel JK.. I am looking to keep my car legal but I still want a Supercharger and I accept slightly over 600ish wheel is about all you can get safely for daily use with stock headers and cats on 93 pump, and I am fine with it. I not looking to spend a ton but screws are a must have down the road for me..
I supercharged my 11' at 28,000mi and immediately the clutch was slipping. I did an Exedy Mach500 spring hub design and it worked well. My-82 also performs well double clutching I found. You loose time on tracking but on back roads it was perfect.
Waiting for the history lesson to end so we can get to shifting!
there nothing wrong with a t5. mild built 5.0 in my 95 gt and it still has stock clutch and it takes a beating.
rodolfoem2011 he said mildly built so even if it is an older one it’s probably pushing more than 220
I have an rst clutch on my mt 82 no problem and i'm pushing 630 whp
AMEER DASHTI did you add a flywheel or just have the clutch with the stock flywheel
yes I did add a lightened steel flywheel from Mcleod
I have the RST also with the alumi flywheel. When it heats up after long driving I notice chatter and vibration letting out the clutch at slow speeds and low RPMs . You notice anyhthing like that??
@@ShelbysGT steel is better for daily driving
I run an RXT on my mt-82. No issues here.
Shawn Van Meeteren how is it now
3rd gear Lock out is BS too. So many grip the shifter hard like their life depends on it and direct it. 1st to 2nd pull back to the left, 2nd to 3rd let shifter spring over push forward. 3rd to 4th is simple, 4th to 5th push it over to right. I've had 2011 GT wasn't best shifter it was ok did go to MGW shifter and then race spec. Now 2015 GT shifter not bad just haven't put MGW race spec in yet
Ive had 10-12sec fox mustangs with full slicks 6k launces and never ever broke a t5. O'Reilly's clutch and don't miss gears
There must just be something wrong with my car. I have always shifted lightning fast with zero effort. Now I have a 22gt 6sp and I miss literally every single gear I try to make at WOT. Just driving normal 1-2 and 2-3 shifts feel like the gears are clashing together. 3rd will sometimes kinda punch back at you as you try to make the gear change. Car had 9k miles when I bought it
Did you have to have a crank tune? Im reading that after some flywheel changes the car will through misfire codes. Thats what mine is doing after installing this clutch????
Don’t think the t-5 was nothing like your saying. Had several cars with it. Drag raced them with slicks and never broke one. Still have an 85 with one that shift perfect.
ok here we go,
whooh whooh
push clutch in past the friction point
put the shift lever into the next gear
let clutch out
get back on accelerator
repeat when necessary
A buddy of mine his mt-82 locked up broke the case and stripped the ring gear in the rear end.
Shattered 3rd gear in my buddies 95 5.0 in a powershift. Everyone thought I missed the gear and bent the shift fork. I know I didn't miss. Shift fork was perfect LOL
Old comment but back in the day I broke the 3-4shift fork in my t45 in my 97 cobra just mild bolt ons and 410 gears...had the garbage king cobra clutch kit in it...shattered the disc in several pieces and it wasnt that old at all...never again...and I didnt miss the gear...banged 3rd hard...went to shift to 4th and it would not come out of 3rd...stopped and turned the car off...put it in 3rd started it back up and it was rattling like crazy found out why later when I seen the clutch disc in pieces but I drove it home like that it was God awful lol. Not sure what exactly caused the damage unless I just shifted it too hard or something idk...those trans didnt like to take much abuse I had a basically stock cobra but I was speed shifting at 7k so...
I have a tr6060 in my camaro and it's night and day compared to my buddies '14 5.0, I don't mind the mt82 though, just the stock shifter itself is mushy.
The problem is they have never driven a manual from the 70's and 80's or 90's for that matter. And what's happening is that maybe they drove a 2005 and up Honda Manual and they go from that smooth feel to this notchy clunky feel and think Oh this is Bad..
My first Car/Truck was a 1976 F250 start off in second gear because 1st was a granny gear.. I can shift my freaking ass off when I have too. But I honestly shift early and baby my car. I'm not super hard on the stock shifter but every once in a while I gotta Bang second and third..
Add a Barton shift bracket with a Barton short throw shifter and there's no problem
AOD2874 actually you just need the bracket.
AOD2874 hell yeah brother that's what I have on my 2012 gt and so far with 38,000 miles and the awesome Barton shifter with two post bracket...my mt82 is doing just fine! Just street driven not at the track😉👍🏻
I just threw away my Barton for an MGW. Everyone has there own preference obviously but the two shifters are in completely different leagues.
Sweet Dreams is the MGW that much better? I have the full Barton set up on mine and it's ehhhh still sloppy in my opinion. I miss the solid as a rock T5-T56. Is it worth the $500+ bucks
shelby14 sweet I can't recommend the shifter enough. The first time I sat in the car and rowed it through the gears I couldn't shut up about how amazing it felt. I can 100% vouch for the MGW shifter as being a good product. For reference I bought the X-spec with the longer shaft because I didn't want to go too short. I'm far from a novice with a stick and would miss gears with the Barton more than I'd like to admit, but it's actually hard to miss gears with the MGW.
good vid ill give it a try in the spring
You put in in D so the 6R80 can shift itself. 🤣🤣🤣
If you drive the car right the shifter will jus click into position with jus a little pressure
Thanks YoloDB. I can never do it. I cringe at the thought of grinding gears. Can you please show us how to practice from granny shifting and progressing to YoloDB level shifting?
My problem is when i try to shift quick, my car jumps cause i can’t shift smoothly. When i shift slow then i can drive perfectly. How do i shift quick and smooth?
pretty much if you're gonna shift quick you're gonna have to level out the gas quicker but what's important is to give it the same amount of gas wen you level out as before you were shifting. If you shift quick but level out slow and give it less throttle than before, you're gonna jerk. It really depends on the RPM's if you shift quick, you're not giving the car enough time to fully bring down the RPMS which in turn would require more gas so it doesn't jerk
the t5 is fine its not super strong and theres alot of after market parts to help that but they wouldnt break that easily my motor isnt stock and its fine even with the old nwc 2.8 v6 t5 i had to use because i needed something for the time being (but i have a wc now for my 85 firebir)d could shift any gear fast you just cant shot load them into gear you gotta get the throttle time between shifting right and the wc 2.95 1st is the best idk what problems you mean
@alejandroflores for the s550 platform, i am thinking of getting the Barton shifter as well. now i am thinking of going the trans mount way. what would be your opinion. thanks in advance
I mean my 2017 mustang gt is rough to drive unless you practice a lot . The first gear will jump out like 3 times a week … I’m just saying you should probably get an automatic gt 10 speed
and if you have ever hear a n/a built cammed 3v is one of the best sounding cars ever
haterget1nb3ast it will sound great as it gets gapped
Alejandro Flores Bro you address all this other shit, but miss a huge issue with Coyote 5.0's. They burn tons of oil. Fck my 2011 TVS goes through a quart every 500miles. But i blast it to multiple 7200rpm runs every day. Still it shouldn't burn a quart every 500miles. I run a Moroso oil separator which keeps intake clean, and my spark plugs are spotless and dry. Have no clue why these things drink oil, maybe you can fill me in.
What about Ford tuned nls? I have a new edge with og t45 with 215k.. I always quick shift, clutch goes down when going into gear.
Nice work
Good vid, the only problem I have is the choice I made regarding the fluid. I went with the Amsoil Manual Transmission & Transaxle Gear Lube 75W-90. The fluid is fine when warm, not so good cold. When cold I have to go from 1st to 3rd until it's warmed up, after that shifts great. I'm curios what fellow Mustang owners run in their mt82? Anyone use the Amsoil Manual Synchromesh Transmission Fluid 5W-30? Royal Purple synchromax? Now I wish I had just left the Ford fluid in there. Your thoughts?
Scotty N I've heard great things about the royal purple syncromax oil. Shifts are supposed to be super smooth and feel way better. I'm gonna put it in this week :)
the flywheel has a lot to do with how the car shifts at high rpm. since we are talking about high Rpm shifting.
Is there any way to raise the engagement point on these stock clutches? On my old 2v it engaged at the tip of the clutch so I could bang gears no problem and damn near make it sound like a dual clutch, but with these guys engaging all the way at the bottom it definitely slows down my shifts.
I have a s197 2012 Coyote. What do you think about 373 gears? That is what I chose for mine off the showroom. I am almost full bolt ons and was looking into clutches , to replace the stock one. I am around 67k miles. You made a comment about SPEC clutches that raised and eyebrow. I am going for longevity with my build and you mentioned those were rough on MT82s. I have never heard this and thanks for sharing the info.
Honestly I cant drive stick. Use to have an old maxima way back that was manual. Drove it a bit. But man driving stick must feel way more exciting when going wot
I would have to say the worse trans is the 3650 used in the new edge mustangs... I broke 3rd gear on my 02 I used to have and it was stock with bolt ons
I disagree. My friend has a bolt on 04 mach with the 3650 and even with bad syncros on 2nd it takes all the abuse we can throw at it like a champ. We actually have half-assed tried and CANT break it. (Cheaper to buy a new one than rebuild the current one) Ive even done several passes with the thing and i cant shift for shit
@@henftw yea the 3650 was the best oem 5 speed ever put into a mustang they can actually take a decent amount of power reliably
Better than most...sir, please
My civics transmission have never given me trouble! Lol
Honda builds their cars for abuse... Or at least they used to idk about now.
Hard to break something with no power.
ragealldayy lol
@@ragealldayy I mean I love v8s but hondas with turbo are nothing you wanna meet
That’s quite an accomplishment. Honda transmissions probably have some of the weakest synchros on the planet. At least the older B and D series transmissions did. You could almost never find one that didn’t grind going into third and fourth.
Biggest problem is the stock shifter being mounted to the body and the stock clutch is too weak from the factory
Great video !
hey bro i love watching your videos, i have a quick question for you, i have a 2013 with some bolts on, i want to replace the clutch and i know you are an expert on this, what clutch do you recomend
Great videos.
My dad's '14 GT is stuck in 4th gear, can't go into any other gear, won't come out of gear. Idk what the problem is, its got 200,000 miles on it. That could be the problem lol
I've got the Barton short shifter with the two post bracket, and it's a lot heavier of a shift from stock. I'm hesitant to push too hard to get the car in gear (don't wanna burn my synchros) and I think that my timid shifts are causing the gears to nibble a little going into 2nd and sometimes 3rd or 4th. I've only got 60k and it was stock and lady driven before I bought it. Should I be unafraid of shoving the shifter harder into gears, or do I have a bigger problem?
Picked a random video to ask this because i respect your opinion on coyote tuning and thought of you while contemplating tuning etc. Long story short I have a road race s197. I'm building a naturally aspirated voodoo/coyote/mmr based build with a dry sump etc. As far as the computer is concerned should i even bother with a standalone computer system? Is the stock computer going to cut it in my case? I would like to retain OBDII compliance. The build is just going to be very custom.
Do you have skip skip shift with the 2011 I have the 2012 skip shift mt82 if your really quick shifting does it bypass that skip shift? Or am I just stuck with it. Such a nice car but this feature is terrible is there Anything I can do? 5.0 premium cs/gt
I was expecting alot more wheel spin for 700+hp. What's your tire and wheel setup?
I have no problems with my 2014 5.0 50 thousand miles on it all stock manual clutch is great but I do not power shift her either.... I also bought the car brand new and I was 35 so I will not destroy it
Shit you could destroy it at 35, 36, 45, I don't care...
I've got an N2MB sitting here for the purpose of possibly saving some hell on the transmission between gears, still hesitant to chop up the wiring to install it. . especially if it's not going to help or even make things worse
SlowFiveOh my issue with a wot box on a coyote is it fucks with the vct and reverts the cams to base.
That's good to know. I appreciate the info!
when drag racing, i keep getting high rpm lockout in every gear on my 2013 gt with an og barton shifter, and the pedal keeps getting stuck to the floor. im thinking its my 90,000 mile clutch, the shifter isnt on right, or i probably just suck. not sure if there any other factors involved
Time for a clutch
Clutches in stock form on these cars suck. High RPM the pressure plate over centers and will not return to normal until RPM drop somthe pedal stays half way until that happens. Note , I have the spring removed as well as larger hydronic line to throw out
The pedal getting stuck is the plastic line, get an aftermarket metal line, problem solved
Beast Mode.
thx I love this video
Alejandro , just bought a 2013 5.0, has a short shifter, I can't seem to get it into third, stock shift knob, any ideas on this? Or is it just me lol
But shift at 7 grand. Love the vid
So you have the mt82 with over 100k?
I had the mt82 up to 252k before it died on me
How many clutches tho lol
Alejandro, greetings from Puerto Rico. Can you tell me what are the best suspension parta for wheel hop?? I have a 2015 Mustang GT.
I like the Steeeda Anti hop kit or the "stop the hop" kit.
I also like UPR's toe links, Viking shocks and vertical links.
Alejandro Flores Thanks... Great videos. I have learn a lot.
"No fucking around" got it. :D