Porsche Cayenne 958.1 Front and Rear Differential Service
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
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Here is my DIY Video for doing the front and rear differential service. Listed below are the fill capacities. Most are not just fill till the fluid comes out like most cars. The correct amount must be put in or you will over fill them.
These specifications are for the 958.1 I'll add more when I have the info available
Front Diff.
Base, S, GTS, Turbo, Diesel, S Diesel, Hybrid, China .5 L Change Quantity
Rear Diff.
Open Diff Diesel, Hybrid, China. .8 Litre Change Quantity
Open Diff Base, S, GTS, Turbo. 1 Litre Change Quantity
Locking Diff Base, S, GTS, Turbo, S Diesel. 1.3 Litre Change Quantity, Fill to lower edge of filler screw
I Don't have access to the specs for the 958.2 if someone have that let me know
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The fill capacities are in the description. I only have them for the 958.1 if someone has them for the 985.2 let know.
Don't remove the fluid until you have verified you could get the fill off.
I saw that on another channel, it's smart idea
Most important! Good video though 👌🏻
Just finished front & rear diff. On rear diff, your 5/16 hex bolt socket with a crescent wrench works great on the fill plug. On front diff, I had to use a 5/16 hex Allen wrench and it was a pain in the ass to get it off. Just getting the fill plug back in it’s threads took me a good half hour of fiddling and cursing. Glad I don’t need to do this very often.
Yeah once maybe twice during ownership. It’s not too bad. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the video. I have a 958 and a 991.1. I used your video to do the transfer case service two weeks ago, much appreciated. Now I can tackle this one as well in a couple weeks. Just have to find those bits!!!
Thanks for watching I’m glad I can help. The 8 mm bit came from a security bit like this
www.harborfreight.com/security-bit-set-with-case-100-pc-68457.html
and that adapter I had for the 3/8 to 14mm head
www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-square-drive-socket-caps-67011.html
Some handy little tools that can save you in a pinch.
Thanks for the video, getting ready for my 160k miles service and this helps alot
My mechanic replaced front differential oil for me, the old one was solid black. He put more new liquid than what he took out. My steering wheel felt so much smoother and softer afterwards, like day n night.
Yes mine was pretty dark too. I don't know if I feel any difference in the way mine drives though.
Just bought 2013 Cayenne 4.2D. Loving and learning from the videos, thanks.
Kevin you need to get some rust inhibitor under that car. In Canada I use rust check or crown rust inhibitor and I'm still rust free after 485k. The brine there using now destroys sub frames and brake lines.
Awesome video! I was looking for this instructions for a long time!! Thank you Kevin! Great job!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad I could help
Kevin, this was a very helpful video. Thank you for posting it.
Thanks for watching
Thank you Kevin. Next on the list. Much appreciated.
Very helpful. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Great vid.And thanks for the specs its versy usefull!i just bought a 2012. hybrid and your videos are makeing me confidence to do it myself the change.
Congrats on your recent purchase. Thanks for watching my videos I’m glad they will help you.
Did you able to change the fluids? I have a Hybrid too
Thanks Kevin! Another great Cayenne video.. can you do spark plugs next? :D
I’ll add it to the list
Thanks for the video. My cayenne vibrates above 70 miles. I have balanced the tyres and still. Looks like it’s a common problem. Any idea!?
thank your video is very good to learn & save money
Thanks for watching
First thing- thanks for these great video's they are extremely helpful. I do have a question I have watched several videos on changing the front and rear diff fluids and on pretty much every other video they fill the Diffs until fluid pours out the fill port
Trying to figure out what fluid to use for the hybrid model (958.2)...
Excellent kev
Hi Kevin, I just came across your videos on the Cayenne. I bought a used '16 base model with the 3.6 NA engine. I love it and will be keeping it for awhile. This video was a perfect primer for me to do this job. I just did this same drain/fill on my Tundra's differentials and with the exception of the tight access, which you showed how to address that, looks to be a similar job.
I see you have a little of the rustbelt orange on your car frame. I live in Wisconsin so was quick to pick up on the flaking rust on the weld seams in your video. Any repair that you recommend for keeping these cars from rusting. Maybe Fluid Film or POR-15?
Thanks for watching. I haven’t looked into that yet. Maybe a good subject for video.
Where did you got the specification for the fluid amount? I own a 2016 Cayenne GTS and trying to find the correct info on the exact amount I need to fill the diffs.
Thx for the informative videos!
Thanks for watching!
Did you add 1 quart or 1 liter on the rear? I’m curious because one bottle is less than a litter. I’d assume it’s a minimal difference and doesn’t matter. Thanks
hi kevin i have a 2011 cayenne diesel on 165000 miles and on 4 occasions in the last 6 months its auto transmition has stuck in 3rd gear untill i turn off the engine then restart and the problem goes away,question is do you think this type of oil change will help at all or is it wishfull thinking on my part thanks in advance
Thanks for the video Kevin. Ive checked a few online guides and they all claim that the open rear diff takes 0.8L. What amount should I put in the rear?
Is the viscosity for the rear locking diff option still 75W90 or is it different? Wasn't sure if it was the same as the front diff.
Hello, greetings, I am from Mexico City, I would like to ask you some questions, mine is a Porsche Cayenne base 2012 3.6 v6 gasoline, the rear differential has 75w90 as it says in the video, in the front what it dyes is another differential and apart from the transfer or the front differential is it the transfer? and what would be the fluid that would be in the front parts
Thks
Hello sir. My car is 2011 Porsche Cayenne S HYbrid 333cv, the oil is 75w90? and 0.8 front diff and 0.8 front diff? Because when i ordered they asked me if i had a locking slipp differential? does that change the type of oil and quantity? and how can i know ?
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Thanks for yet another good video! Do you plan to change the water pump on the 996 and film it? Cheers.
Thanks for watching! At this time I don’t have any plans on doing that. Mine isn’t showing any signs of leaking and wasn’t done too long ago by the previous owner.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Ok. Keep on wrenching 👍
Kevin, how did you get the cap off the Ravenol bottle so you could use your own fill pump? As best I can tell, the caps are not designed to come off (as it has its own built-in tube).
They don’t come off without a fight. I took a set of channel locks to get the cap off.
Are these plugs re-usable? Is there a spacer/gasket that has to be replaced? I thought the plugs are single use only and should be replaced each time?
Well a lot of people like to buy new ones every time which is fine. I will usually reuse unless the thread doesn’t look good but if you are careful and clean the thread off you should be fine
Is this Fluid GL4 or GL5 ?
Hello Kevin . Great video .
I wanted to ask my 2011 Cayenne started to make growling noise and i took it my mechanic and he suspected it to be transfer case . I didn’t get any jerks or slippage while changing gears . Spoke to Porsche NA and they agreed to replace the TC under warranty .
However I took my suv to the dealership for the repair and as per the technician noise to be coming from the front differential as well and they want to replace front differential which is obviously not covered and I have to spend 6000$ from my pocket and then they will diagnose based on the noise if needed then they will replace TC .
I’m not sure if they are taking my advantage or is it really an issue ?
Also do you think changing fluids on differentials and TC is the step in the right direction ?
Thanks
I have never had an issue with the front diff. A growling noise isn't usually associated the transfer case going bad not to say it couldn't happen. Lots of times growling is from bearings like wheels bearing, diffs etc. That's a lot of money though. I would get a second opinion I don't see why a independant garage couldn't do that for a lot less money.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Thanks fore replying and as you suggested I'm taking it to another local Indy shop for 2nd opinion and I will start with replacing the fluids first which will be around 200$
I did some research on the Cayenne forums with some folks having similar symptoms and changing the fluids made the noise go away so keeping my fingers crossed.
On the other hand Porsche Called me today offering 10% discount on the original price and a loaner for a week with someone coming to pick my SUV and will drop it as well. Not bad.. lol.. i guess they def. need that money.
@@Weather7951 can you give us a update on the growling noise. Did the fluid changes rectify the situation.
Hello Glen .
Fluids change didn’t helped . It was front differential and I had to replace it .
@@Weather7951hi much $ did it cost.
Porsche recommends changing differential fluids, and transmission fluid every 160k miles. Do you have 160k miles ? or why did you change the fluids sooner? Thanks
I think the oil change intervals are too large and that fluids need to be changed sooner. I change my engine oil every 5k miles.
There is a bulletin from Porsche on how to relocate the vent to the engine compartment.
👍🙏
Hi Kevin
I am hearing that he rear diff can be Limited Slip type oil?? I want to change the diff oil but dont know how to check to use the right type of oil for the rear diff.
That’s only if you have torque vectoring on your model. Called PTV+. Otherwise, use what he used.
Kevin - Where did you get the fluid pump? Thanks!!!
I don’t remember exactly probably from advance auto or auto zone. It’s really common that pump and pretty cheap
Is this the same for a 14 cayenne 3.6 engine awd ?
The basic procedure is the same it is possible that the capacity is different I would drain into an empty oil bottle so you know exactly how much to put back in.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage ok thanks
On rennlist forum, people are saying the capacity is fill to overflow for the open diff. I also called several local Porsche dealers. Some say it’s fill to overflow. Some say they don’t know.
Just wondering how did you get the capacity information? Did you measure how much fluid came out from the rear? Did you have any problem with the rear diff after the fluid change?
I got my information from alldata which is the factory manual. I haven’t any issue. When i drained the diff i measured how much came out to just make sure i was close and it was. So i used the information i had as it was right. If there is any doubt drain and measure whats comes out. Look what the capacity numbers are and put in what matches. It wont be 100% but it will be close enough to know
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Thanks Kevin!
You removed the drain plug first then the fill plug?
Well there are two schools of thought. One is to open the fill plug first because if it doesn’t come lose for some reason you don’t have to worry about filling it back up. You just don’t change the fluid. But, opening the fill first then the drain the fluid comes out really fast when doing that and could make a mess.
Second is that opening the drain first the fluid comes out slower and it’s easier to control where you put the pan to catch it avoiding a mess.
Honestly I don’t work on cars that are in bad of shape that I have to worry about not being able to get the fill plug out.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage That makes sense, thank you.
What is that adapter piece that is quickly referenced when removing the pain in the dick fill bolt on the front differential? The rear was a pain, but more access than the front. FML
These are what i used so i could use a wrench on a socket to get that plug out. These have saved me a few times.
www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-square-drive-socket-caps-67011.html
Thanks for watching
how many litter most be put insides
He says I’m the video. 1 liter for the rear. .5 liter for the front.
Where can I get this adapter from ? ruclips.net/video/naTWDMaFFms/видео.html
You can pick them up from harbor freight
www.harborfreight.com/security-bit-set-with-case-100-pc-68457.html
www.harborfreight.com/3-piece-square-drive-socket-caps-67011.html
You could probably just use the square drive socket for both the front and the rear. But if you don’t have a security bit set it’s good to have one and they’re only $10.
@@KevinsEuropeanGarage Much appreciate Kevin!
Why not Liqui-Moly?
There's a lot more rust then on the Cayenne's 955.