Those phillips are upgraded so are the ball diffs..look into man..It has special coated diff balls..You keep saying it wont handle brushless but you are wrong..You seem to be looking at Tamiya in a bad light at times..Open up your mind and stop having limited expectations put a 13.5 in it..it will love you for it and it's not 80's ABS plastic it's a new resin blend and the "plastic gears" are HD nylon reinforced ..Even a freaking grasshoper will run brushless let alone a TOP FORCE EVO lol..You can hop it up and tune it like you would do any other race buggy..Tamiya are easy to get parts and hundreds of hop ups..Tamiya rigs are made to be hopped up and tuned man..Look forward to see how you upgrade it and tune it
Race tracks in the U.S. don't carry Tamiya Parts though. So if you break something you have to either find a hobby shop that has them or order them. Which isnt the end of the world but it matters if you are racing and something breaks.
@@Heathcliff_hensel That's not true at all..my local track sells many Tamiya kits,parts and hop ups..They have Tamiya races and it's one of the most popular classes..
Ok ……. Here’s a true account from someone who raced one of these at a high level, can’t post a photo of my trophies here but look at my account and you will see my Evo and also a 4wd stadium truck made from an Evo chassis. I started out taking it to club days as it seemed like a good challenge given it’s stigma as a hobby’s class car, in the first year I took 1st place in the carpet champs, nth island, South Island and NZ nationals. New Zealand nationals 1st place stock and mod, 202 entries in 4wd stock alone from Australia and NewZealand, I was the only driver to win 16/16 starts in a 4 way meet and It was that successful I had offers to drive from other brands but ended up with full sponsorship from the Tamiya agents in New Zealand. My thoughts, if you can break one of these there’s something wrong and not with the car so you shouldn’t have to be buying a lot of parts trees. Bulletproof, I hit a x10 Predator (full Carbon) at the indoor carpet nationals and drove through it on a straight splitting it in half (not on purpose) and went on to win the race, I had a 10 wind quad CAM brand motor in it with G2 Tekin speedy which at the time they were using to run 20 cell drag cars in the USA so that answers can it handle the power, can’t beat a shaft drive for putting the power down, you don’t run these with a one way, these will out steer any car on the market but you have to know how to set the steering, there is a fundamental setup mistake that all people that own these make and makes them understeer. They Aren’t soft if set up right and if you run them with box tyres they will be average like any box kit. 2.0 or 2.2 Schumacher greens for dirt and blue for indoor, carpet etc, if running mod 2.0’s not 2.2’s. That’s a short summary of my 20 year behind the trigger of a Top Force Evo.
These tamiyas don't perform the best but the thing they do best is leave a big smile on your face when you run them they are fun to drive and they all seem to have there own personality and that's what makes the tamiyas fun RC cars. parts you need one little part you need to buy a big parts tree with many parts you don't need..that's the bad part about tamiyas. You may bee hooked on tamiyas now! 😃😃
@@RazorRC Tamiya makes hundreds of hop up parts for every chassis they sell..Stock parts you may have to buy the parts tree though..I have old discontinued Tamiyas and I can still get parts trees and hop ups plus aftermarket..Many companies make aftermarket..Yeah racing..3 racing..Jazz Rider just to name a few..Look into the aftermarket and hop up parts for this chassis ..Some really nice builds out there..I sent you a nice top force build on Instagram a few weeks back check DM
How would this be with a 2s brushless system? Would it give it a more modern performance or just be overkill? Not looking to race it just improve an old design
Just guessing from your hint of something RE-RE on order you have an Optima Mid on Pre-order too 🤫 When it came to RC cars from this era Kyosho always had durability and performance in mind while still keeping a similar Visual aesthetic as Tamiya that’s probably why I’ve owned so many Kyosho vehicles from that era vs Tamiya my attraction to this particular buggy is because it was the foundation for all OnRoad Touring Cars starting with the Tamiya TA01 Nissan Skyline R32 GTR kit. Tamiya parts support is definitely weird and with it’s challenges if it’s plastic then yeah. your definitely buying a whole part tree but some parts are available similar to other brands of RC or just as hop-ups in which case you’re buying an assembly usually. When you get into the TRF vehicles most maintenance items are available individually and in the same manner as most other brands of RC say 1 front arm & 1rear arm in a bag together etc. Side note I’ve currently got the Tamiya Sand scorcher & 45th Anniversary Porsche left to build the Porsche is going on the shelf but I intend to run the Sand Scorcher ✌️
I just ordered this from A-main. It will be my first Tamiya. Still deciding if I will build it or keep it in the closet unbuilt so the possibility is always there. Or build it and put it on the shelf and love looking at it. Or to build it and run it. I'll probably save it for someday when I am bored and looking for something to do. I already have a Kyosho Ultima re-re sitting in the closet waiting to be built. Awesome video as usual!
Now you need a Kyosho Legendary Series ReRe, like the Optima Mid that's coming... I really want an Ultima, Turbo Optima Gold, and Optima Mid.... maybe a Scorpion .... but I just hope to get at least ONE of the.... still searching for a few Tamiya kits to collect... any suggestions for ones that are actually made well enough to be fun to actually drive sometimes...? I spot some carpet fuzz on there!!!
Very interesting, thanks. I bought one out of curiosity and I'm planning to race it at my local club, where they use 17.5T brushless on a slippery indoor surface, so the flex and soft kit setup shouldn't be a problem. I swapped the uprights for aluminium, so that should help the durability. It won't be beating the XB4s, but it'll be fun trying to keep up!
I would keep the STD CF shock tower as it has a bit more flex than an alloy part and lighter, just get the HPI shock proctors. If you break the shock tower you will certainly break the gearbox cover it screws into and with an alloy tower you will probably transfer that energy sooner. Have fun they are so much fun.
@@alfredyost7972 Jazrider - they even do them in gunmetal grey to match the body. On the front, it looks like one solid impact to the front wheel and the plastic ones would break immediately. The rest of the front setup seems solid enough that hopefully I won't just transfer the damage to another part.
Thanks great video as usual. It's a lot more durable than you think that said I have a stack of parts bought online as there is no local parts support. I ran a 10.5 with the high speed gear no problems, that said I run on dirt so not as harsh on the drive train as carpet. I have a mate that runs his vintage EVo and make the A mains against modern buggies. I have an XB2 and XB4 I agree its no comparison but its not the point of these buggies, I honestly I prefer my Top Force over my XB4 even though its slower and less durable. Its the character and it instantly stands out on the track. For me its like driving and old vintage car on a Sunday morning.
I bought one of these cars. I used to race but I never would race a Tamiya car. Maybe that is just me? I think that Tamiya cars are good for backyard bashing. I did also get titanium screw kit for this car. The reason I got the titanium screws for this car is that the original car came with them. Thoughts?
Not sure about this one, but I have 2 TT02's and their plastic is so cheap it cracks just looking at it. Bought them to race on road ... constantly replacing broken ABS plastic.
This is the video I've been waiting for...and, in the end, I'm deciding to NOT get the Top Force Evo. As I said in my comments on the two earlier videos, it is not "competition capable", and this video confirms it. For my next Tamiya kit, I'm thinking my money is better spent on the TD4 Super Avante. I'm not saying it's 'better' than the Top Force Evo,,,and, obviously, it's not a competitive buggy (nor does Tamiya market it as such)...just that it's something I feel 'my' money is better spent on. Now...time to go order me a TD4 Super Avante, along with a few Hop-Up parts.
Those phillips are upgraded so are the ball diffs..look into man..It has special coated diff balls..You keep saying it wont handle brushless but you are wrong..You seem to be looking at Tamiya in a bad light at times..Open up your mind and stop having limited expectations put a 13.5 in it..it will love you for it and it's not 80's ABS plastic it's a new resin blend and the "plastic gears" are HD nylon reinforced ..Even a freaking grasshoper will run brushless let alone a TOP FORCE EVO lol..You can hop it up and tune it like you would do any other race buggy..Tamiya are easy to get parts and hundreds of hop ups..Tamiya rigs are made to be hopped up and tuned man..Look forward to see how you upgrade it and tune it
Race tracks in the U.S. don't carry Tamiya Parts though. So if you break something you have to either find a hobby shop that has them or order them. Which isnt the end of the world but it matters if you are racing and something breaks.
@@Heathcliff_hensel That's not true at all..my local track sells many Tamiya kits,parts and hop ups..They have Tamiya races and it's one of the most popular classes..
Ok ……. Here’s a true account from someone who raced one of these at a high level, can’t post a photo of my trophies here but look at my account and you will see my Evo and also a 4wd stadium truck made from an Evo chassis. I started out taking it to club days as it seemed like a good challenge given it’s stigma as a hobby’s class car, in the first year I took 1st place in the carpet champs, nth island, South Island and NZ nationals. New Zealand nationals 1st place stock and mod, 202 entries in 4wd stock alone from Australia and NewZealand, I was the only driver to win 16/16 starts in a 4 way meet and It was that successful I had offers to drive from other brands but ended up with full sponsorship from the Tamiya agents in New Zealand. My thoughts, if you can break one of these there’s something wrong and not with the car so you shouldn’t have to be buying a lot of parts trees. Bulletproof, I hit a x10 Predator (full Carbon) at the indoor carpet nationals and drove through it on a straight splitting it in half (not on purpose) and went on to win the race, I had a 10 wind quad CAM brand motor in it with G2 Tekin speedy which at the time they were using to run 20 cell drag cars in the USA so that answers can it handle the power, can’t beat a shaft drive for putting the power down, you don’t run these with a one way, these will out steer any car on the market but you have to know how to set the steering, there is a fundamental setup mistake that all people that own these make and makes them understeer. They Aren’t soft if set up right and if you run them with box tyres they will be average like any box kit. 2.0 or 2.2 Schumacher greens for dirt and blue for indoor, carpet etc, if running mod 2.0’s not 2.2’s. That’s a short summary of my 20 year behind the trigger of a Top Force Evo.
I would love to see this compared to the kyosho optima mid when it comes out later this year!
These tamiyas don't perform the best but the thing they do best is leave a big smile on your face when you run them they are fun to drive and they all seem to have there own personality and that's what makes the tamiyas fun RC cars. parts you need one little part you need to buy a big parts tree with many parts you don't need..that's the bad part about tamiyas. You may bee hooked on tamiyas now! 😃😃
The Top Force performs great ..The Evo is even better
Yeah, the parts thing…. I feel like Tamiya, at least in the US, is not even trying!
@@RazorRC Tamiya makes hundreds of hop up parts for every chassis they sell..Stock parts you may have to buy the parts tree though..I have old discontinued Tamiyas and I can still get parts trees and hop ups plus aftermarket..Many companies make aftermarket..Yeah racing..3 racing..Jazz Rider just to name a few..Look into the aftermarket and hop up parts for this chassis ..Some really nice builds out there..I sent you a nice top force build on Instagram a few weeks back check DM
This Evo handles a justock 10.5t with zero issues. Very good plastics!
How would this be with a 2s brushless system? Would it give it a more modern performance or just be overkill? Not looking to race it just improve an old design
Best looking Tamiya RC buggy imo. Had this in the 1/32 4wd car as a kid and loved the livery!!
Just guessing from your hint of something RE-RE on order you have an Optima Mid on Pre-order too 🤫
When it came to RC cars from this era Kyosho always had durability and performance in mind while still keeping a similar Visual aesthetic as Tamiya that’s probably why I’ve owned so many Kyosho vehicles from that era vs Tamiya my attraction to this particular buggy is because it was the foundation for all OnRoad Touring Cars starting with the Tamiya TA01 Nissan Skyline R32 GTR kit.
Tamiya parts support is definitely weird and with it’s challenges if it’s plastic then yeah. your definitely buying a whole part tree but some parts are available similar to other brands of RC or just as hop-ups in which case you’re buying an assembly usually. When you get into the TRF vehicles most maintenance items are available individually and in the same manner as most other brands of RC say 1 front arm & 1rear arm in a bag together etc.
Side note I’ve currently got the Tamiya Sand scorcher & 45th Anniversary Porsche left to build the Porsche is going on the shelf but I intend to run the Sand Scorcher ✌️
I just ordered this from A-main. It will be my first Tamiya. Still deciding if I will build it or keep it in the closet unbuilt so the possibility is always there. Or build it and put it on the shelf and love looking at it. Or to build it and run it. I'll probably save it for someday when I am bored and looking for something to do. I already have a Kyosho Ultima re-re sitting in the closet waiting to be built. Awesome video as usual!
Now you need a Kyosho Legendary Series ReRe, like the Optima Mid that's coming...
I really want an Ultima, Turbo Optima Gold, and Optima Mid.... maybe a Scorpion .... but I just hope to get at least ONE of the.... still searching for a few Tamiya kits to collect... any suggestions for ones that are actually made well enough to be fun to actually drive sometimes...?
I spot some carpet fuzz on there!!!
Very interesting, thanks. I bought one out of curiosity and I'm planning to race it at my local club, where they use 17.5T brushless on a slippery indoor surface, so the flex and soft kit setup shouldn't be a problem. I swapped the uprights for aluminium, so that should help the durability. It won't be beating the XB4s, but it'll be fun trying to keep up!
I would keep the STD CF shock tower as it has a bit more flex than an alloy part and lighter, just get the HPI shock proctors. If you break the shock tower you will certainly break the gearbox cover it screws into and with an alloy tower you will probably transfer that energy sooner. Have fun they are so much fun.
Which aluminum uprights did you get?
@@Aro800 Thanks. I'll look into the shock protectors. The track is pretty tame, so it'll take an impact with another buggy to do any damage.
@@alfredyost7972 Jazrider - they even do them in gunmetal grey to match the body. On the front, it looks like one solid impact to the front wheel and the plastic ones would break immediately. The rest of the front setup seems solid enough that hopefully I won't just transfer the damage to another part.
i hope your next re re will be a turbo optima. i owned a javelin back in the 80s, and it was a solid basher. great vintage platform ...
Thanks great video as usual. It's a lot more durable than you think that said I have a stack of parts bought online as there is no local parts support. I ran a 10.5 with the high speed gear no problems, that said I run on dirt so not as harsh on the drive train as carpet. I have a mate that runs his vintage EVo and make the A mains against modern buggies. I have an XB2 and XB4 I agree its no comparison but its not the point of these buggies, I honestly I prefer my Top Force over my XB4 even though its slower and less durable. Its the character and it instantly stands out on the track. For me its like driving and old vintage car on a Sunday morning.
Wicked looking buggy! Great video as always
I bought one of these cars. I used to race but I never would race a Tamiya car. Maybe that is just me? I think that Tamiya cars are good for backyard bashing. I did also get titanium screw kit for this car. The reason I got the titanium screws for this car is that the original car came with them. Thoughts?
Not sure about this one, but I have 2 TT02's and their plastic is so cheap it cracks just looking at it. Bought them to race on road ... constantly replacing broken ABS plastic.
cool rc and great review
This is the video I've been waiting for...and, in the end, I'm deciding to NOT get the Top Force Evo. As I said in my comments on the two earlier videos, it is not "competition capable", and this video confirms it. For my next Tamiya kit, I'm thinking my money is better spent on the TD4 Super Avante. I'm not saying it's 'better' than the Top Force Evo,,,and, obviously, it's not a competitive buggy (nor does Tamiya market it as such)...just that it's something I feel 'my' money is better spent on. Now...time to go order me a TD4 Super Avante, along with a few Hop-Up parts.
do you just watch kevin talbots videos and make your own?
Well, considering my video came out a month before his, I think it's the other way around mate.
Parts and hop ups are the most easy to find online 🙄
MAKE TAMIYA RC AGAIN.
Tf are you talking the instructions are unclear
Literally 95% of these live on the shelf. You can't even get parts for them.
Yeah, it seems like that’s the case, which is why Tamiya’s seem to be as much a kit model as they are an RC car. 🤔
@@RazorRC yes. People just collect them and shelf them.
Buy your parts online as you would for AE, or any other brand