Alloy parts really make the kit stand out, if you can get the right color to match the paint job. Especially if it's only going to be a shelf queen. Thanks for sharing.
I use to use pieces of lexan drill loads of 3mm holes into it gather about ten pieces on a screw and nut with washers and spin it on a drill to sand into shape to make some suspension shims...! use a similar trick to shim the wheel drive axels
Oh, Glenn, check out JTeamHobbies.com. They have aHUGE selection of hopups that you may peak your interest. They were one of the few suppliers that I could find well fitting aluminum parts
@@TAMIYALegends it's like meeting a hot chick that's high maintenance, who can't cook or clean, but all is forgiven when you sit back and admire the bling!👊
Excellent video and thanks. Its nice to see the good and bad points of these alloy mods before we part with our hard earned cash, after all they arn't cheep. Although they do look proper trick. keep up the good work.
Good overview. Yeah as a display car it looks absolutely great. Maybe even leave it like this so you can see the chassis and parts. Stunning. Great job my friend.
Nordic RC Visions Thanks my friend 👊🏻 You are absolutely spot on, afterwards when I came to build my 2nd DF-01 I did notice that it had plenty of slop too 😬
TAMIYA Legends Just checked my Tamiya factory build TT-02B: much more slop than you showed here 😂😂 Well, the TT-02B is in another price range but anyway, even Tamiya themselves can’t do it right ☺️
Looks nice, I like the plastic also because those aluminum parts just en up breaking some other part that takes much more to to replace than just a A arm.
Cam row drone Thanks buddy 👊🏻 There’s a custom set you can buy on eBay that comes with four shocks and all the mounting parts! I’ve never seen it used on the car, but I’d like to see what kind of difference it makes 🤔👊🏻
Hi glenn, great stuff again! If you would ride it, i would opt for (carbon reinforced) plastic arms but keep the alloy cover. If you hit something with the front wheels now, you risk bending Your cover, arms AND c-hub. In addition to that, alloy is heavier so it will create more momentum and force on a crash. I would add something like green slime between to prevent dirt coming in the gearbox. (Probably preaching to the quire since you know that and will use it for display) For the washers you could use one of the washer sets from the trf on-road series cars that serve exactly that purpose.
Steven Peirsman Thanks Steven 👊🏻 I’d be interested to see if I get any comments from guys that have actually ran this set up. It would be cool to see what they thought of it 🤔👊🏻
To me the function would need to be considerably better than the stock items to justify the cost. I'm almost sure the overall car weighs more than stock and and ally can get grubby looking with use. But she will look fantastic in your cabinets. In my opinion a hop up part should fit straight out of the box.
Hello! Great videos an channel. One of those pieces broke the gearbox just by tightening the screws. Then I bought FASTRAX TAMIYA TA01 ALUMINUM FRONT GEARBOX COVER (FTTA074B) and it fits perfectly, it also doesn't stand out (like the original part).
For shimming out any suspension Traxxas grey Teflon shim sets are great. They have a couple of sizes. But I'll share a super tip. With a paper punch tool, punch out all the shims you want from plastic packaging scraps. Lexan body scraps are nice. Thick or thin. Then you Dremmel out the hole with any bit you want. Or just drill a hundred holes along the edge, and paper punch them out. For free!! 👊😋👍
Great review! That made me think twice and now I have changed plans. :( Oh well, still a nice build, Buddy! I will still get a Top Force mod it a bit minus the aluminum parts, but definitely the Evo look.
@@TAMIYALegends I was ready to hit the buy button a day back. It could have been a really nice upgrade, both for race and on display. I hope RCDamper watches your videos so they can fix the fitment issues and slop; those are the disappointments. Nonetheless, it still looks awesome for a shelfer.
Hi Glenn, you need to get some "shim" washers to go no to the shafts!!!,they come in different diameters and more importantly thicknessesiii. An engineer supples shop should have them!!. Steve UK.
@@TAMIYALegends They seem to make them for while on some chassis and then they disappear. There used to be WW2 alloy steering set but not anymore all out of stock when I looked.
I don't think the slop is something that will hurt in real world driving. I did a lot of aluminum parts on a first gen Traxxas slash. And to tight of tolerances was a much bigger issue. Dirt would bind it up bad.
Dude thank you for this video. As you know I finally got my topforce and I was debating on some alluminum and im glad you put this out there. Do you think its worth getting the alluminum drive shaft hop up and what would you recommend for shock upgrades?
ZERO'S HOBBIES Thanks buddy 👊🏻 I’m really not sure the Top Force needs anything, I ran mine hard as standard and it was epic tbh. I guess upgrading the shocks to Hi-Caps is probably the best upgrade 😞👊🏻
That's really quite a bit of kit!! However, for all that Money.... I'd be VERY Cross indeed, if I ended up with THAT much SLOP!! 😠😠 especially the Bearing housings, causing the Bearings to not only have playa, but also the Bearing OUTER Race can SPIN in the Housing - causing more slop! I do understand that you made a Display Model.... But still. Makes me NOT want to get RC Dumper! Looks GREAT though. 😉 Carmine ✈🚂🚙
For 130 quid you won’t get tight tolerances on finally assembly There mass produced parts it is what it is Am sure even if you run it you will never get perfection you can’t do much with something that’s just made so mass produced you would need to redesign the whole thing
TAMIYA Legends I have and still run my FG and harm cars there a different ball game altogether Alloy suspension is nylon bushed and steering But when your paying 50 quid each for wish bone and arms you expect more 😃
Can ya please add me on FB. You seem like an Absolute Jedi with DF01's which just so happens to be my problem. My prof pic is me and Michael Poulsen from the band Volbeat. If thats hard to fathom just look for a really excited guy with another guy doin the metal horns.
These are really poor quality parts. The whole point of metal parts is to increase rigidity. That is thrown out the window when you've got that much play in the frame. Definitely a case of all show and no go. Don't waste your money on these particular alloy parts, they're rubbish.
This is terrible, no offence, the slop in those rear hub carriers is basically made the car unusable, this pieces break at the drop of a hat, you should be warning everyone away from these products 100% I know it’s a Shelfie but you need to make that warning for other buyers, these parts are pathetic and not worth a dollar and people should know, anyone that’s been in the hobby long enough knows you would only use aluminium hub carriers and a couple other small parts, RC cars need flex, it’s a domino effect when you make a part metal with no flex it will just break the next piece 🤷🏻♂️ not rocket science and these metal arms look disgusting 🤢🤮
Alloy parts really make the kit stand out, if you can get the right color to match the paint job. Especially if it's only going to be a shelf queen. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching John 😊👊🏻
I use to use pieces of lexan drill loads of 3mm holes into it gather about ten pieces on a screw and nut with washers and spin it on a drill to sand into shape to make some suspension shims...! use a similar trick to shim the wheel drive axels
Neil Fastfreddie Anderson
Great tip Neil, thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Hi, again that should be go on the shafts!!!!. Steve UK.
Thanks a lot, as a result of your videos, I'm now building a Top Force as a shelf queen, you've just cost me £££! Can't beat Tamiya.
Gary G
Oops sorry Gary 😂👊🏻
Let me know how it turns out buddy 😎
Just like always, beefing up one section breaks another. Great video Glenn.
Jub
Thanks buddy 😊👊🏻
Oh, Glenn, check out JTeamHobbies.com. They have aHUGE selection of hopups that you may peak your interest. They were one of the few suppliers that I could find well fitting aluminum parts
Jub
Nice one I’ll have a look 👊🏻
instablaster.
Very informative Glenn. It's such a conundrum, as the alloy looks so damn sexy!
Donovan Gladden
Thanks buddy, yeah I agree the look of this stuff outweighs its performance 😂👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends it's like meeting a hot chick that's high maintenance, who can't cook or clean, but all is forgiven when you sit back and admire the bling!👊
Donovan Gladden
Love it 😂👊🏻
new to your channel really liking it a yorkshireman in canada dont lose the accent
Use the little plastic washers that come with pc motherboard for the mounting posts. That may work.
Excellent video and thanks. Its nice to see the good and bad points of these alloy mods before we part with our hard earned cash, after all they arn't cheep. Although they do look proper trick. keep up the good work.
Chris Robinson
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
Top vid as always👌
5000 subs....💪💪💪
Hyperdude
Thank you so much buddy 😊👊🏻
Great video with valuable information whether those mods are worth doing. Thank you
santrade10
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
Can you make some kind of gasket for that front diff cover?
Brian Argo
I think the kit plastic one is better tbh Brian 😬
@@TAMIYALegends Ur right it is better. But it don't beat the looks of that aluminum one.
Brian Argo
Oh yes I love the bling 🤩👊🏻
Good overview. Yeah as a display car it looks absolutely great. Maybe even leave it like this so you can see the chassis and parts. Stunning. Great job my friend.
Oh, and the slop look similar to the slop in some of my stock Tamiyas, so it’s not that bad ☺️
Nordic RC Visions
Thanks my friend 👊🏻
You are absolutely spot on, afterwards when I came to build my 2nd DF-01 I did notice that it had plenty of slop too 😬
TAMIYA Legends Just checked my Tamiya factory build TT-02B: much more slop than you showed here 😂😂 Well, the TT-02B is in another price range but anyway, even Tamiya themselves can’t do it right ☺️
Great job!
fabrizio viscardi
Thanks buddy 👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends Thanks to you my friend
Awesome build Glenn. If it's going to be a true shelfer then get that rear cover too. You're already all in. ;)
Gronk VBS
Absolutely my friend 🤩👊🏻
Thanks for watching
Looks nice, I like the plastic also because those aluminum parts just en up breaking some other part that takes much more to to replace than just a A arm.
Shen RC
Yeah I agree I don’t think it’s something I’d do again buddy 😬
Another fantastic video my friend awesome😊🇬🇧😎👍
Leons rc hobbys
Thanks for watching buddy 😊👊🏻
Nice man they do look good!
Void X RC
They do buddy, sometimes I think I choose stuff on looks rather on performance 😂👊🏻
Great video really enjoyed 👍🏻do you know the best oil shocks for the grass hopper 2017 version 👍🏻
Cam row drone
Thanks buddy 👊🏻
There’s a custom set you can buy on eBay that comes with four shocks and all the mounting parts! I’ve never seen it used on the car, but I’d like to see what kind of difference it makes 🤔👊🏻
Ace vid mate
David Turner
Thanks David 😊👊🏻
Hi glenn, great stuff again! If you would ride it, i would opt for (carbon reinforced) plastic arms but keep the alloy cover. If you hit something with the front wheels now, you risk bending Your cover, arms AND c-hub. In addition to that, alloy is heavier so it will create more momentum and force on a crash. I would add something like green slime between to prevent dirt coming in the gearbox. (Probably preaching to the quire since you know that and will use it for display) For the washers you could use one of the washer sets from the trf on-road series cars that serve exactly that purpose.
Steven Peirsman
Thanks Steven 👊🏻
I’d be interested to see if I get any comments from guys that have actually ran this set up. It would be cool to see what they thought of it 🤔👊🏻
To me the function would need to be considerably better than the stock items to justify the cost. I'm almost sure the overall car weighs more than stock and and ally can get grubby looking with use. But she will look fantastic in your cabinets. In my opinion a hop up part should fit straight out of the box.
My GPM front alloy diff cover fits perfectly flush, I looked after watching the vid. Maybe I got lucky. Nice vid, keep it up.
Benspeeding alot
Oh that’s interesting buddy, never thought about other manufacturers 🤔
Thanks for watching 👊🏻
Used GPM all over on my dt03. No slop anywhere. Clearly made with finer tolerances
Hi, yet again!!!! That should be thicknesses!!!!!. Steve. UK.
HI. like your videos. Whwew do you get the tamiya yellow plastic shocks ?
Awesome build man!!! But where did you get those hicaps!!??? Man I need a set for my Kingcab!
TheUsmc1488
Yeah I was just lucky on those, a guy on our Facebook group had two sets for sale at the time 👊🏻
It looks beautiful, Glen! Would a gasket made from a cereal box work? That's an old motorbike engine trick :)
Which brand of gearbox cover you have on your Top Force? I know xtra speed, GPM and Jazrider are offering the same parts.
Hello! Great videos an channel.
One of those pieces broke the gearbox just by tightening the screws.
Then I bought FASTRAX TAMIYA TA01 ALUMINUM FRONT GEARBOX COVER (FTTA074B) and it fits perfectly, it also doesn't stand out (like the original part).
Victor Felip
Excellent information thank you 👊🏻
For shimming out any suspension Traxxas grey Teflon shim sets are great. They have a couple of sizes. But I'll share a super tip. With a paper punch tool, punch out all the shims you want from plastic packaging scraps. Lexan body scraps are nice. Thick or thin. Then you Dremmel out the hole with any bit you want. Or just drill a hundred holes along the edge, and paper punch them out. For free!! 👊😋👍
Brad Brown
That’s a great idea, thank you 😊👊🏻
Yes u got it
Great review! That made me think twice and now I have changed plans. :( Oh well, still a nice build, Buddy! I will still get a Top Force mod it a bit minus the aluminum parts, but definitely the Evo look.
Titan520
Yeah I was a little disappointed with all the alloy 😬
@@TAMIYALegends I was ready to hit the buy button a day back. It could have been a really nice upgrade, both for race and on display. I hope RCDamper watches your videos so they can fix the fitment issues and slop; those are the disappointments. Nonetheless, it still looks awesome for a shelfer.
Hi Glenn, you need to get some "shim" washers to go no to the shafts!!!,they come in different diameters and more importantly thicknessesiii. An engineer supples shop should have them!!. Steve UK.
Stephen Stott
As always thanks for the info Steve 😊👊🏻
Looks great! but a lot of money for something that still requires attention in order to run. Another informative video sir 👍
Jonathan Bennetto
Thanks for watching 👊🏻
I would think its better to have a weak point (that is relatively cheap) to save deforming the alloy in a crash.
Glenn when you get more money I think you should make it runable you know how I feel about shelf Queens.
Brad Kalman
Thanks Brad 👊🏻
Shelf Queens are awesome too buddy 😊
Hate to say I will never except it.
The Hex my favourite alloy part. But the wobble is not the hex, looks more like bearing housings.
Bas Boy RC
It’s a shame that the Tamiya alloy parts are so hard to find 😞
@@TAMIYALegends They seem to make them for while on some chassis and then they disappear. There used to be WW2 alloy steering set but not anymore all out of stock when I looked.
Hello ho bay the piece alu thancks
I don't think the slop is something that will hurt in real world driving. I did a lot of aluminum parts on a first gen Traxxas slash. And to tight of tolerances was a much bigger issue. Dirt would bind it up bad.
Brad Brown
Yeah that’s a great point Brad, it’s a shame I didn’t run it to see how it ran 🚗💨💨
You must use washers or shims like you say !
H-J G
Thanks buddy 👊🏻
I think the alloy hop ups look really cool, but if you want good performance stick with the plastics & shim out the play.
stephen manley
Totally agree buddy 👊🏻
It does look trick Glenn, at a hundred odd quid though it should. You gonna show it dressed up with wheels and a body
Gary Rawlins
Yeah that’s already done Gary on previous videos, if you get time to watch them let me know what you think buddy 👊🏻
@@TAMIYALegends I must be going senile Glenn, I've seen all your vids, I'll have another look. 😋
Dude thank you for this video. As you know I finally got my topforce and I was debating on some alluminum and im glad you put this out there. Do you think its worth getting the alluminum drive shaft hop up and what would you recommend for shock upgrades?
ZERO'S HOBBIES
Thanks buddy 👊🏻
I’m really not sure the Top Force needs anything, I ran mine hard as standard and it was epic tbh. I guess upgrading the shocks to Hi-Caps is probably the best upgrade 😞👊🏻
looks cool, but modding the car worse is pointless to me
Good thing then that Glen showed us in depth of what we can expect If we were considering this setup..
Great vid as always💪
Andy Smith
Completely agree Andy, not something I’d do again buddy 👊🏻
Hyperdude
Thanks man 👊🏻
That's really quite a bit of kit!! However, for all that Money....
I'd be VERY Cross indeed, if I ended up with THAT much SLOP!! 😠😠 especially the Bearing housings, causing the Bearings to not only have playa, but also the Bearing OUTER Race can SPIN in the Housing - causing more slop!
I do understand that you made a Display Model.... But still.
Makes me NOT want to get RC Dumper!
Looks GREAT though. 😉
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
PoorManRC
Totally agree buddy, thanks for watching 👊🏻
I would rather keep the plastic and have that break ,rather than break the suspension arms OR metal case.
gary murphy
Thanks for watching 👊🏻
For 130 quid you won’t get tight tolerances on finally assembly
There mass produced parts it is what it is
Am sure even if you run it you will never get perfection you can’t do much with something that’s just made so mass produced you would need to redesign the whole thing
Count murcielago
Yep totally agree buddy, for me it works for a display car, but not for a runner 😬
TAMIYA Legends
I have and still run my FG and harm cars there a different ball game altogether
Alloy suspension is nylon bushed and steering
But when your paying 50 quid each for wish bone and arms you expect more 😃
i mean where. sorry.
Naturally Inquisitive
I get most of my stuff from our Facebook group or Tony’s Tamiya Parts on eBay 👊🏻
Can ya please add me on FB. You seem like an Absolute Jedi with DF01's which just so happens to be my problem. My prof pic is me and Michael Poulsen from the band Volbeat. If thats hard to fathom just look for a really excited guy with another guy doin the metal horns.
Jöe Chadbürn
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These are really poor quality parts. The whole point of metal parts is to increase rigidity. That is thrown out the window when you've got that much play in the frame. Definitely a case of all show and no go. Don't waste your money on these particular alloy parts, they're rubbish.
This is terrible, no offence, the slop in those rear hub carriers is basically made the car unusable, this pieces break at the drop of a hat, you should be warning everyone away from these products 100% I know it’s a Shelfie but you need to make that warning for other buyers, these parts are pathetic and not worth a dollar and people should know, anyone that’s been in the hobby long enough knows you would only use aluminium hub carriers and a couple other small parts, RC cars need flex, it’s a domino effect when you make a part metal with no flex it will just break the next piece 🤷🏻♂️ not rocket science and these metal arms look disgusting 🤢🤮