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A 50 gallon drum with a 5 gallon bucket suspended in the center with rebar, or other rods. Using shredded, and compressed newspaper/paper bag seasoned with fuel. Best Tramp camp heating/cooking unit I've seen. Best filmed in The Pit.
5:20 Brian, a professional fire-eater, well aware that fire can burn his face off, talking about the high possibility of pressure building then igniting, proceeding to sit right in front of the explosive hobo stove...all this, while wearing open-toed sandals. How on earth are they still alive
I'm so sad that Jason actually came up with the solution: bigger holes all over... But he never got to find out he was right. Trust yourself, Jason. :(
So what, if they put a couple around the side? Makes sense to me, wonder why they didn't consider that beyond the one sentence before they had to bail from the rain
Pausing at 5:34 makes for a great still frame. Jason already halfway out of the frame with the speed of The Flash, Cory's great big "this is fun!" smile while backing away like he's only just pretending to be scared, and then finally Brian doing the upside down turtle on the bonnet.
Remember when coffee cans were made out of metal? We made a Hobo stove out of a coffee can when I was in grade school. We fried bacon and toasted cheese sandwiches. Then for desert we made s'mores. We cooked with wood instead of gas, because wood is safer.
We did something very similar when i was in cub scouts, only we used those little tea light candles and fried burgers! Pretty sure we did smores for dessert too
In Niles Canyon Cali local sheriffs made a deal with those of us Off the Grid in canyon regarding fire. The barrel halves had already proven problematic. So the 50 gallon drum half, or full with a 5 gallon bucket suspended in the center ash trickled out to water at in the bottom, and to assure less sparks flew we used compressed Hobo logs paper bag/news paper, crumpled, shredded and pressed, or wire cinched cubes, or discs seasoned with fuel.
I absolutely love that Cory’s apron says Janneman State Warriors. Such a fun reference to that video!! (Cool rogues know what I mean) The subtitle is even better: “Forgetting that we exist is our strategic advantage”
If I were to try to redesign this stove, I'd probably start by making it shorter so there isn't so much room that needs wicking and fuel stuffed into it. For the top I would dent the lid down to form a dish, then drill roughly 1/4" (maybe bigger) holes around the perimeter of the lid leaving the middle solid. Fill up the inside with wicking and fuel, put the lid on, then fill the 'dish' part of the lid with fuel and light that. The lit fuel should just sit and burn there for a while to heat up the inside, then when the inside is warm enough the fuel should evaporate out up through the holes and start burning. If the fuel warms up slowly enough it will displace the oxygen inside and prevent the flam from propagating down the holes.
Instead of drilling holes in the lid, drill a bunch of 1/8-1/4 inch holes (the smaller the holes the more you need to drill) just below the top rim of the can, between the rim and the handle attachment points. This will allow you to use the whole lid as a dish to heat up the can as well as allow you to just sit the pot on top of the can without worrying about snuffing out the flame
Uh, yeah, anyone well acquainted with fire knows he _SHOULD_ be. (Near) Invisible fire that mixes with water and spreads around (unless you have enough water to actually put it out ie. dilute it to
When i watch the 3 of you together, its easy to imagine some sort of time travel / alternate reality situation going on. You all look like you're part of a continuum, like you're on different parts of the same spectrum.
Hey guys. As a kid, I remember a friend of the family's doing something similar but with coiled up, corrugated cardboard and paraffin wax - thus turning an old paint can or coffee tin into a camping stove. The trick is to have a smaller can with the cardboard candle riddled with aeration holes along its bottom rim; and a larger, fully metal coffee can (I think we had used a large Maxwell House can) placed upside down over the fuel source, with holes around its bottom and a few notches cut along its upper rim for proper airflow. The bottom of the larger can (now facing upward) makes a perfectly flat cooktop for a pan or pot. Once your cooking is completed, use tongs or a couple sticks to SAFELY remove the larger can when you're done cooking. You could then replace it with another can or large metal bowl to smother the remaining flames without soaking the waxy cardboard, allowing it to be useful more than once
That Janneman State Warriors reminds me that I really want a Janneman State window sticker to put on my rear windshield so other Modern Rogues can see me.
solution. drill holes on the side of the can instead of on the lid. drill them large enough to not die but not too large to burn too fast. drill a hole on the lid large enough but also small enough to be covered by a quarter. add fuel, seal the lid, add a small amount of fuel to the lid, light the lid and when the flames are coming from the side, place a quarter on top of the hole on the lid. the toilet paper thing is the same as before.
Start with the first TP stove that made the rocket fire blast. Set a small flame a few inches over the top of the stove, then torch the sides of the container with the butane torch. Eventually the container will heat up, and the stove lights itself only once the alcohol vapor reaches the pilot flame. By then the stove will (hopefully) have pushed most of the air out so you shouldn’t blow anything up. Love the channel by the way, you guys are a lot of fun to watch!
he is so concerned, always so worried about safety and taking it all super serious when it comes to fire.. but they keep making these videos as well. I love that so much haha
15:31 the guilty face of Jason. The most laughs I had in the week. Thanks guys for making it better!!! Now the other subject. How to make a better Hobo stove. You guys may want to take a look at something called the cat stove just scaling it up. Simply put drill big holes around the top of the can. Once the stove is primed, you can place the pan over the opening and it will forced the flames to go around the side of the pan, creating the "Gas Burner" effect you are looking for. However, it will look better if the pan is way bigger than the can this way it will be more effective too.
Dude it’s late night I’ve got a sandwich and I’m high and then I see the modern world rogue posted a video about cooking on a homeless stove? Absolutely fuck yes
@Modern Rogue As a Boy Scout, I built a similar stove scouts called a Buddy Burner, it used a 3 LB metal coffee can, and a large tuna can for fuel. Rather than alcohol, we used corrugated cardboard and wax. Pack the tuna can with cardboard standing on edge where the top has holes. Once full of cardboard, fill the cans open space with melted paraffin wax, crayons, or candle wax, until full. Let fuel can set up and cool overnight. Wax fuel cans will light even if wet. I cooked bacon and eggs with mine for my first scout merit badge. Cool memories.
Rewatching this the next day, I have so many questions that I just need to write down: 1. You guys have a script??? 2. How much research goes into the episodes b/c every time I see and episode I just assume someone thought of an idea, someone bought the stuff for said idea, and they just found a convenient time for everyone to meet up and shoot. 3. Editor, how much fun do you have making those subtitles? I absolutely love them. 4. Do you guys have a podcast? 5. When will you guys drop an album?
Poke some bigger holes in the bottom for airflow, use wood for fuel, and you've got yourself a great stove that doesn't need special liquid fuel! I challenge you to try it!
Ever try making a dirt stove? Take a tin can, drill or punch (try an old school can opener) some good sized holes around the sides just below the top. Fill it to 3/4 full with dry dirt or sand, pour in your preferred accelerant, light it up and cook away. The fuel wicks up through the dirt quite well, but is steady enough to use even straight petrol (gasoline). Something crazy I'd love to see, is you guys trying to make a liquid vapouriser style stove. Think alpine hiking stove, where you fill a small basin with fuel, light it and it heats a coil of fuel which then vapourises and ends up looking like your kitchen gas top burner.
How can we improve? My friends, the whole episode the improvement was sitting right in front of you! We need to go bigger! 5 Gallon bucket hobo stove fried rice! Uncle Roger will surely approve.
On the lid, cut 4 quarter circle slits with support connections around the outside edge, move in a little bit and turn the lid 45°, repeat, and keep going until you have a fancy looking grill
As people have already mentioned you almost made a pulse jet! That's a cool episode i think, use a sauce jar so you can see it pulsing the fire, but they do break after a few heat cycles. Thanks Guys
They're basically making a portable dakota fire pit. Create a platform with a mesh about an inch ablove the bottom of the paint bucket. add an air intake hole at that inch to fuel oxygen to the fire, which is protected from the elements on the sides and you cook on top of it. heat is funneled upwards. keep using them alchool soaked tp, it's cool. I'd recommend something like a cooling rack for cookies on top to properly rest your pan, held in place with screws/nails/hopes&dreams.
i havnt watched modern rogue in about a year. i started watching this vid cause i have also tried making alcahol stoves a couple times and almost died. i wasn’t disappointed. prolly gonna watch more modern rogue now
@TheModernRogue As a suggestion, look up popcan stoves or ultra-light alcohol stoves made from the bottoms or two pop cans (or soda cans to those of you in those areas).
To improve. Make a bigger hole in the center to pre heat. The larger hole allows vapor to come out faster instead of building up pressure. Then once warmed cover the center hole to leave only the small holes for the vapor to come out of
One large 3/4 to 1 inch hole In the middle of the lid and a series of 1/8 in holes around the rim if the can would allow for you to lite the stove through the larger center hole and then when you place the pan on top the large jet will go out and the smaller outer jets will continue to heat the pan. It’s also better to have a shorter wider can than a taller can. This allows for the heat from the flame to boil the fuel directly. Just some ideas inspired by smaller high altitude soda can stoves! Maybe worth a follow up?
I made this exact same stove and had the same problem. I fixed it by taking off the lid and used tin foil to make three spacers on the lip of the can. Set the lid back down with a better air gap and it worked perfectly fine. Just kept going for an hour which was way too long for what I had cooked and eaten.
More holes around the bottom, the hot air rising will pull air through the intake at the base and up through the top. You basically want the same crossectional area of intake as output. There are advtanages to the lid for protection from the rain. You can also then take a second lid and cover to extinguish.
Modern Rogue: Must have a bigger camp stove. Giant Metal container, Large opening on Top, Possibly some Ventilation on the sides... Does that Car that you are sitting on have a Sun Roof?
Shocking an alcohol stove that is a well known and used emergency and camp stove (and heat source) works as... A stove! AMAZIING! Also to improve the bucket stove you need a much larger hole in the center top, likely over an inch wide (maybe two plus) so that it doesn't so violently build up pressure and can breath better.
You need a priming pan; a lipped metal dish slightly wider than the can. The can sits in the dish. A small amount of alcohol is put in the dish, and lit. This heats the fuel resivoire in the can, causing enough vapors to be produced to start a stead flame.
Your original hobo stove video inspired me to make one myself, and my first creation with it was vienna sausage in tomato paste! The stove worked, but the meal was terrible!
Jason was right about the ventilation holes on the side in most cases you guys weren't giving it enough air. In oil fuels the wick is meant to wick oil to the fire. In the case of an alcohol stove it mostly just holds the alcohol because its the fumes that ignite not the liquid(it also makes it safer to handle). This is also why you kept getting a sputtering bottle because you were creating a enclosed mixture or fuel and air. While with oil ignition is limited to the surface of the oil.
Check into a gasifier type stove. They can be made in many sizes. Fuel is wood, pellet stove pellets work well too. Way less explodey, and easy to make.
put a little bit of salt in with the alcohol so you can see it when it burns, it will give it an orange colour to it. Also put more holes on the side to draw air in, your original airhole was blocked but the toilet paper, put the air holes above the toilet paper.
With the paint can, drilling holes just below the top rim on the side all around, maybe around 8 holes to relieve pressure, that might alleviate the pressure enough while supplying enough air to the fire within
Take the blow torch to the outside of the can for a minute before lighting the top. Really heat things up and get them evaporating before trying to light the top. Also filling more of the can with wicking to use up the air space should help. Also 3 appropriately spaced screws would have been more stable.
I think Having just the paint can filled with paper towels and booze and no holes or screws in it would be better. You could use the lid to smother the flame and seal it to store so you can pack it and keep it full. Then just make something out of some thin steel rod that rests on the edge of the can to hold up the pan you’re using. Just a thought. Maybe I’ll try it out.
Take a can opener, like one you'd use to punch a triangle in a can of apple juice, and make a ring of vent holes around the top of the sides. That would also allow a good flow of oxygen into it.
AWESOME episode - thanks for posting! :D P.S. It's so good, I just realized I'm putting this before watching MacGyver. Like, literally. Please take that as a compliment.
I'm betting that the First Aid Burns episode will become very useful also, suggestion: make a rocket stove, which is a similar stove but with wood as fuel, and use that as inspiration, and also maybe try a oil fueled stove bc. idk how hobos would have access to alcohol
@@nobody-pr7fg yeah, I've heard of people building blacksmithing forges with what is basically a oil rocket stove, they basically had blower instead of the air inlet
how to improve? Put the pan holding screws in the sides on a 45degree angle JUST below the lip so that the pan can still sit on it- except, when you're done, you use the unmolested original lid and just put it back on to smother it, and use again later ;)
7:00 Congratulations, you made a primitive rocket engine! As for stove designs, I would say your best bet is probably a scaled up cat food can stove. The original design calls for a cat food can and a tuna can, but that can be scaled up to a #10 can and a quart paint can. Stuff the quart paint can with a roll of TP and fill with alcohol. Use a churchkey can opener to punch a dozen or so vent holes all around the outer perimeter of the #10 can's bottom, both on the bottom itself and on the wall circling the bottom. Punch a handful of holes in the sides around the open top to act as air intakes Invert the #10 can over the fuel can, and light. The #10 can acts as a pot stand, air intake, duct, and flame dispersal mechanism, while the paint can just sits in the middle and burns. The holes are too big to create a fwoosh, and the air intakes keep the fuel can from gaining too much heat and running away (getting hotter, which means more fuel vapor, which makes more heat, which means more fuel, vicious cycle). Another great resource is zenstoves.net/ - Tons of designs, all tested and proven. I've made quite a few different varieties and they all work.
I’ve made all kinds of different soda can alcohol stoves from simple double wall low pressure stoves to more complex high pressure stoves. I’ve also made coffee pots and cooking pots out of soda cans.
Well, you could create vents on the sides of the can, that way the fire runs through the top of the stove while pulling oxygen in through the sides and providing enough airflow to prevent pressure building. Just puncture some slits around the sides.
Used to make PAINT CAN BOMBS as a kid in almost the EXACT SAME WAY...holes in lid, something flammable (won't divulge my secret formula) and playing with natural stoichometric equalizing. Done right, the lid pops off with a huge bang and you retrieve it and repeat until told to stop!
I imagine your first issue when scaling up was squared cubed law. I'm thinking of you cut the can in half you'd hve less internal volume where air could unintentionally be which would prevent the potato cannon like effect that Jason was lighting. Also getting a kitchen stove like effect would be doable, but it would take some balancing, start with big holes, and narrowing them, you could do this by having 2 lids with holes cut in both, and by rotating the top lid you could increase or decrease the size of the openings. I'd be willing to mach up a design and test it, or just making designs for y'all to copy and fiddle with yourself on the show
7:00 - That flame was so good it might've launched an aluminium frying pan. This stove definitely needed larger holes in the lid and a multi sized drill bit would've worked a treat cos if the holes weren't big enough you could just redrill the holes. I'd even have opted for 2-4 large holes near the bottom for air intake to pull oxygen in - like the fire triangle asks for - Fuel - yes... Flame - yes... Oxygen - yes but there isn't enough with this design. Think of the rocket stove and put 10-15mm holes or whatever the ye olde measurements are.
The little alcohol stoves made from 2 pop can bottoms seem more efficient. I can't remember if you guys have made them or not though. Oh and to improve that first design you guys tried, maybe try the same principle. Start with a new paint bucket, pop a circle of holes across the top, heat the bottom of the bucket with the torch first, then light the pressurized gasses? Probably want to be able to be behind something just in case it blows the lid off. Or just make the soda can stoves, if you haven't already.
From experience making penny stoves at home during the whole pandemic (because there wasn't much else to do and I have now a whole box filled with them. Don't judge), and from looking at the comments before me, yep, larger holes for that size can would be of help. Also, instead of pouring fuel on top of the stove and hoping for the best, it's best to set the stove on a fireproof plate of some kind, set the priming fuel on said plate, and then light that
The vapour bulit up inside ive used one of those aluminum beer bottles yes bottle the cap has vents in it already and the top screwed on. I just used isopropanol 70%. i heated the container over a fire then lit the top after the fumes started. I then turned the flame down because once the alcohol is started it sustains itself pretty well but as soon as the container cools the flame shrinks then goes out. Honestly i think the flame went down inside because you guys didnt have any pressure if you had more fumes comming out then the flame wouldnt go inside. Its like a lighter when the fuel goes down it doesnt go down into the lighter and explode because the nossle creates a volocity. Like when you replace your natural gas stove with a propane one you need to replace all the nossles because the gas has a different density and then it requires a fine tuned pressure. Its not gunna explode if you guys sealed it with some sort of clamp ive had those things over aalot of heat before and it never pressurized enough to explode
Honestly, the rocket stove style design that was used before the cut due to weather would have been perfectly fine if there was an inch hole in the center and another inch hole an close to the bottom. Venturi effect for the win. The high pressure from the fire would create a vacuum sucking cool air in the bottom and expelling the fire and heat from the top. Best part about the rocket stove design though, is you could just do it with a tree trunk. 6 inch diameter or more. Hole in the center down about 2/3 of the length. another hole on the side that meets making a "L" shape on the inside of the wood. Light the hole from the bottom and it is a self-feeding stove for the next few hours.
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I'm sorry to inform you that 2 of the 3 Fat Boys are dead. As of Feb 2021 Prince Markie Dee passed away. I was crazy sad.
Helo
A 50 gallon drum with a 5 gallon bucket suspended in the center with rebar, or other rods. Using shredded, and compressed newspaper/paper bag seasoned with fuel. Best Tramp camp heating/cooking unit I've seen. Best filmed in The Pit.
Steel barrel. You won't, cowards.
Screw it, better yet, one of those giant propane tanks.
This episode has the highest density of, "[Thing] is gonna happen," [thing happens], "HOLY COW!" moments. I love it.
5:20 Brian, a professional fire-eater, well aware that fire can burn his face off, talking about the high possibility of pressure building then igniting, proceeding to sit right in front of the explosive hobo stove...all this, while wearing open-toed sandals.
How on earth are they still alive
same way all adults from the past survived their childhood, low percentage chances and luck.
I'm so sad that Jason actually came up with the solution: bigger holes all over... But he never got to find out he was right. Trust yourself, Jason. :(
This reads as if Jason Murphy ceased to live
They were so close to getting it working...
@@wobblysauce I want to see them take this to its logical conclusion of hobo jet pack
MMmm, I smell burning.
So what, if they put a couple around the side? Makes sense to me, wonder why they didn't consider that beyond the one sentence before they had to bail from the rain
“Fire department, what’s your emergency?”
“So we were trying to cook an omelette and accidentally made a jet engine....”
"Sir, where is the fire?"
"Four states over. The jet engine launched us into the air."
Sorry, that’s not our jurisdiction. You want Idiot Control
O.o now I want to make an omelette on a pulse jet!
overengineering be like
Pausing at 5:34 makes for a great still frame. Jason already halfway out of the frame with the speed of The Flash, Cory's great big "this is fun!" smile while backing away like he's only just pretending to be scared, and then finally Brian doing the upside down turtle on the bonnet.
Already have it screenshot. We should make it a meme
plus the look on Brian face of "S*** I F**ked up" "DONT TELL MUM!!!"
If I could make the progress bar go away on a paused screen, this would be my new wallpaper.
It's at this point in the video I "liked" it~
@@levigriffin5553 Simple format like
"Thing will happen"
-thing happens-
-still frame-
Remember when coffee cans were made out of metal? We made a Hobo stove out of a coffee can when I was in grade school. We fried bacon and toasted cheese sandwiches. Then for desert we made s'mores. We cooked with wood instead of gas, because wood is safer.
We did something very similar when i was in cub scouts, only we used those little tea light candles and fried burgers! Pretty sure we did smores for dessert too
5:24 the paint can has more comedic timing than SNL had for 36 years
Brian's hair just keeps shape shifting every episode
Chan-... chan-... CHANGELING?!?!?
I'm counting down the days for the intro ad, video, and outro ad to all contain a mullet. Not that anything can contain a mullet, of course.
Funniest non outtake video in quite some time. Nearly pissed myself laughing at Jason's jet engine.
Sounds like Jacob’s ladder
Next episode in the series. Converting the Pit to a Hobo Festival Beacon/Hobo Jungle Warming Fire. * Rolls in Fifty Gallon Drums
In Niles Canyon Cali local sheriffs made a deal with those of us Off the Grid in canyon regarding fire. The barrel halves had already proven problematic. So the 50 gallon drum half, or full with a 5 gallon bucket suspended in the center ash trickled out to water at in the bottom, and to assure less sparks flew we used compressed Hobo logs paper bag/news paper, crumpled, shredded and pressed, or wire cinched cubes, or discs seasoned with fuel.
I absolutely love that Cory’s apron says Janneman State Warriors. Such a fun reference to that video!! (Cool rogues know what I mean)
The subtitle is even better: “Forgetting that we exist is our strategic advantage”
Oh, one of my friends went there! He owns a bar now, he's pretty legit.
Yeah Sham berkland is my best friend
Hey kids. Glad to see safety month is over and we are back to the DANGER ZONE!
Oh how we missed the DANGER ZONE!
national reckless endangerment month
@@thomaslaparnestudenthbhs6439 that metal was under tension. It was really touch and go!
Its understandable that Brian is the one with a healthy respect for fire, but it still takes me by surprise when he's the voice of reason.
If I were to try to redesign this stove, I'd probably start by making it shorter so there isn't so much room that needs wicking and fuel stuffed into it. For the top I would dent the lid down to form a dish, then drill roughly 1/4" (maybe bigger) holes around the perimeter of the lid leaving the middle solid. Fill up the inside with wicking and fuel, put the lid on, then fill the 'dish' part of the lid with fuel and light that. The lit fuel should just sit and burn there for a while to heat up the inside, then when the inside is warm enough the fuel should evaporate out up through the holes and start burning. If the fuel warms up slowly enough it will displace the oxygen inside and prevent the flam from propagating down the holes.
Instead of drilling holes in the lid, drill a bunch of 1/8-1/4 inch holes (the smaller the holes the more you need to drill) just below the top rim of the can, between the rim and the handle attachment points. This will allow you to use the whole lid as a dish to heat up the can as well as allow you to just sit the pot on top of the can without worrying about snuffing out the flame
Love how they shot this outside, in the rain, and Brian is STILL nervous of the fire! lol
I just cant believe nobody ever says anything when dude wears flippys while doing fire vids.
I mean, to be fair, Brian is intimately acquainted with and knows how dangerous fire can be.
yeah cause cant the gas just like... sit on top of the water and burn?
Uh, yeah, anyone well acquainted with fire knows he _SHOULD_ be. (Near) Invisible fire that mixes with water and spreads around (unless you have enough water to actually put it out ie. dilute it to
When i watch the 3 of you together, its easy to imagine some sort of time travel / alternate reality situation going on.
You all look like you're part of a continuum, like you're on different parts of the same spectrum.
Brian: is worried about fire safety
Also Brian: uses bottom of blowtorch as a hammer
5:26 those famous last words of describing the worst case scenario.
"Lets make a bigger stove."
*Grabs paint can.
"Oh wow thats gonna be a huge stove!"
*Places paint can on much larger metal bucket.
Progression 50 gallon drum, Hobo Jungle Camp Central Heating/Festival Beacon Fire. To be filmed in The Pit.
@@parac0sm0naut26 turn the whole pit into a hobo stove
Hey guys. As a kid, I remember a friend of the family's doing something similar but with coiled up, corrugated cardboard and paraffin wax - thus turning an old paint can or coffee tin into a camping stove.
The trick is to have a smaller can with the cardboard candle riddled with aeration holes along its bottom rim; and a larger, fully metal coffee can (I think we had used a large Maxwell House can) placed upside down over the fuel source, with holes around its bottom and a few notches cut along its upper rim for proper airflow.
The bottom of the larger can (now facing upward) makes a perfectly flat cooktop for a pan or pot. Once your cooking is completed, use tongs or a couple sticks to SAFELY remove the larger can when you're done cooking. You could then replace it with another can or large metal bowl to smother the remaining flames without soaking the waxy cardboard, allowing it to be useful more than once
That Janneman State Warriors reminds me that I really want a Janneman State window sticker to put on my rear windshield so other Modern Rogues can see me.
solution. drill holes on the side of the can instead of on the lid. drill them large enough to not die but not too large to burn too fast. drill a hole on the lid large enough but also small enough to be covered by a quarter. add fuel, seal the lid, add a small amount of fuel to the lid, light the lid and when the flames are coming from the side, place a quarter on top of the hole on the lid. the toilet paper thing is the same as before.
thank you for taking the time to entertain us and teach this to people who may be able to use it when camping(or homeless)
I don't know man the rain really seemed like it wanted you guys to succeed
7:12 I think thats the fastest iv seen Jason leave the frame.
mans was just gone. he was never even there
Start with the first TP stove that made the rocket fire blast. Set a small flame a few inches over the top of the stove, then torch the sides of the container with the butane torch. Eventually the container will heat up, and the stove lights itself only once the alcohol vapor reaches the pilot flame. By then the stove will (hopefully) have pushed most of the air out so you shouldn’t blow anything up.
Love the channel by the way, you guys are a lot of fun to watch!
Watching them build a Pulsejetengine while attempting to cook food is definitely one of my favorite Modern Rouge moments
Next time on Modern Rogue: The rogues cook bacon with a molotov cocktail.
Molotov cooktail
he is so concerned, always so worried about safety and taking it all super serious when it comes to fire.. but they keep making these videos as well. I love that so much haha
15:31 the guilty face of Jason. The most laughs I had in the week. Thanks guys for making it better!!!
Now the other subject. How to make a better Hobo stove.
You guys may want to take a look at something called the cat stove just scaling it up. Simply put drill big holes around the top of the can. Once the stove is primed, you can place the pan over the opening and it will forced the flames to go around the side of the pan, creating the "Gas Burner" effect you are looking for.
However, it will look better if the pan is way bigger than the can this way it will be more effective too.
Dude it’s late night I’ve got a sandwich and I’m high and then I see the modern world rogue posted a video about cooking on a homeless stove? Absolutely fuck yes
But.... dRugS aRE bAd? The world would be so much better if more people took a little toke here and there.
You and me both man. This is the best way to enjoy MR.
@@Sheridantank lol for real, people all need to mellow the fuck out
just livin the dream
“How do we improve?” literal trash can fire, true Hobo spirit!
All three of these men are profoundly dad shaped and idk what that adds to this? But it is in fact adding.
@Modern Rogue As a Boy Scout, I built a similar stove scouts called a Buddy Burner, it used a 3 LB metal coffee can, and a large tuna can for fuel. Rather than alcohol, we used corrugated cardboard and wax. Pack the tuna can with cardboard standing on edge where the top has holes. Once full of cardboard, fill the cans open space with melted paraffin wax, crayons, or candle wax, until full. Let fuel can set up and cool overnight. Wax fuel cans will light even if wet. I cooked bacon and eggs with mine for my first scout merit badge. Cool memories.
Rewatching this the next day, I have so many questions that I just need to write down:
1. You guys have a script???
2. How much research goes into the episodes b/c every time I see and episode I just assume someone thought of an idea, someone bought the stuff for said idea, and they just found a convenient time for everyone to meet up and shoot.
3. Editor, how much fun do you have making those subtitles? I absolutely love them.
4. Do you guys have a podcast?
5. When will you guys drop an album?
Poke some bigger holes in the bottom for airflow, use wood for fuel, and you've got yourself a great stove that doesn't need special liquid fuel! I challenge you to try it!
Ever try making a dirt stove?
Take a tin can, drill or punch (try an old school can opener) some good sized holes around the sides just below the top.
Fill it to 3/4 full with dry dirt or sand, pour in your preferred accelerant, light it up and cook away.
The fuel wicks up through the dirt quite well, but is steady enough to use even straight petrol (gasoline).
Something crazy I'd love to see, is you guys trying to make a liquid vapouriser style stove.
Think alpine hiking stove, where you fill a small basin with fuel, light it and it heats a coil of fuel which then vapourises and ends up looking like your kitchen gas top burner.
How can we improve? My friends, the whole episode the improvement was sitting right in front of you! We need to go bigger! 5 Gallon bucket hobo stove fried rice! Uncle Roger will surely approve.
On the lid, cut 4 quarter circle slits with support connections around the outside edge, move in a little bit and turn the lid 45°, repeat, and keep going until you have a fancy looking grill
Might be thinking a little above the MR standards there, but it'd definitely work lol
I thought the title was "Cooking a Hobo With a Giant Stove".
Still would have watched
Cooking a hobo with a giant pulse jet
I appreciate this series of well shot backyard shenanigans
Corey: "I'm cooking omelets either way."
Proceeds to make scrambled eggs.
As people have already mentioned you almost made a pulse jet! That's a cool episode i think, use a sauce jar so you can see it pulsing the fire, but they do break after a few heat cycles. Thanks Guys
They're basically making a portable dakota fire pit.
Create a platform with a mesh about an inch ablove the bottom of the paint bucket. add an air intake hole at that inch to fuel oxygen to the fire, which is protected from the elements on the sides and you cook on top of it. heat is funneled upwards. keep using them alchool soaked tp, it's cool.
I'd recommend something like a cooling rack for cookies on top to properly rest your pan, held in place with screws/nails/hopes&dreams.
Man, I loved how they jumped. I jumped too when the pressure got too great in the paint bucket.
i havnt watched modern rogue in about a year. i started watching this vid cause i have also tried making alcahol stoves a couple times and almost died. i wasn’t disappointed. prolly gonna watch more modern rogue now
@TheModernRogue As a suggestion, look up popcan stoves or ultra-light alcohol stoves made from the bottoms or two pop cans (or soda cans to those of you in those areas).
9:10 and at that moment nature itself said “you guys should do a little more research and try again latter”
this is one of the best episodes ever
Completely agree.
To improve. Make a bigger hole in the center to pre heat. The larger hole allows vapor to come out faster instead of building up pressure. Then once warmed cover the center hole to leave only the small holes for the vapor to come out of
One large 3/4 to 1 inch hole In the middle of the lid and a series of 1/8 in holes around the rim if the can would allow for you to lite the stove through the larger center hole and then when you place the pan on top the large jet will go out and the smaller outer jets will continue to heat the pan. It’s also better to have a shorter wider can than a taller can. This allows for the heat from the flame to boil the fuel directly. Just some ideas inspired by smaller high altitude soda can stoves! Maybe worth a follow up?
I'm amazed how these episodes come together so well, even though the guys seem like they're always half prepared for anything
I made this exact same stove and had the same problem. I fixed it by taking off the lid and used tin foil to make three spacers on the lip of the can. Set the lid back down with a better air gap and it worked perfectly fine. Just kept going for an hour which was way too long for what I had cooked and eaten.
I love Brian being blasted back onto the car so much I need a gif. I've watched it like 20 times.
This may be the greatest episode ever made.
More holes around the bottom, the hot air rising will pull air through the intake at the base and up through the top. You basically want the same crossectional area of intake as output.
There are advtanages to the lid for protection from the rain. You can also then take a second lid and cover to extinguish.
Modern Rogue: Must have a bigger camp stove. Giant Metal container, Large opening on Top, Possibly some Ventilation on the sides...
Does that Car that you are sitting on have a Sun Roof?
Shocking an alcohol stove that is a well known and used emergency and camp stove (and heat source) works as... A stove! AMAZIING!
Also to improve the bucket stove you need a much larger hole in the center top, likely over an inch wide (maybe two plus) so that it doesn't so violently build up pressure and can breath better.
You need a priming pan; a lipped metal dish slightly wider than the can. The can sits in the dish. A small amount of alcohol is put in the dish, and lit. This heats the fuel resivoire in the can, causing enough vapors to be produced to start a stead flame.
Got to love playing with fire till the point it jump scares you 😂🤣
Your original hobo stove video inspired me to make one myself, and my first creation with it was vienna sausage in tomato paste! The stove worked, but the meal was terrible!
Jason was right about the ventilation holes on the side in most cases you guys weren't giving it enough air. In oil fuels the wick is meant to wick oil to the fire. In the case of an alcohol stove it mostly just holds the alcohol because its the fumes that ignite not the liquid(it also makes it safer to handle). This is also why you kept getting a sputtering bottle because you were creating a enclosed mixture or fuel and air. While with oil ignition is limited to the surface of the oil.
Check into a gasifier type stove. They can be made in many sizes. Fuel is wood, pellet stove pellets work well too. Way less explodey, and easy to make.
put a little bit of salt in with the alcohol so you can see it when it burns, it will give it an orange colour to it. Also put more holes on the side to draw air in, your original airhole was blocked but the toilet paper, put the air holes above the toilet paper.
15:28
reasons why I love this show so much lol
More camping stuff. It don't matter if it's good or not, just as long as y'all are havin fun. A survival competition would be reaally cool
A prime example of "safety 3rd" quickly being elevated to "safety 2nd."
Also: Cory's apron this episode is pretty cool... I hope it was fireproof.
With the paint can, drilling holes just below the top rim on the side all around, maybe around 8 holes to relieve pressure, that might alleviate the pressure enough while supplying enough air to the fire within
Try using two can wood gasifier woodstove, those can be very large.
Also use a X out of steel for potholder, it allows for different size pots
Take the blow torch to the outside of the can for a minute before lighting the top. Really heat things up and get them evaporating before trying to light the top. Also filling more of the can with wicking to use up the air space should help.
Also 3 appropriately spaced screws would have been more stable.
These guys definitely read Adam Savage's "Every tool's a hammer" book
I’m not so sure that Adam meant for propane tanks to be used as a hammer
@@silentwraithgaming8631 yeah well adam said every tool. The modern rogue said every object
@@P.r.i.m.o good point
I think Having just the paint can filled with paper towels and booze and no holes or screws in it would be better. You could use the lid to smother the flame and seal it to store so you can pack it and keep it full. Then just make something out of some thin steel rod that rests on the edge of the can to hold up the pan you’re using. Just a thought. Maybe I’ll try it out.
Love it, but I did hope that you'd be filming a cooking show with a 10ft tall, 600lb Scandinavian hobo called Stove.
Take a can opener, like one you'd use to punch a triangle in a can of apple juice, and make a ring of vent holes around the top of the sides. That would also allow a good flow of oxygen into it.
AWESOME episode - thanks for posting! :D P.S. It's so good, I just realized I'm putting this before watching MacGyver. Like, literally. Please take that as a compliment.
I'm betting that the First Aid Burns episode will become very useful
also, suggestion: make a rocket stove, which is a similar stove but with wood as fuel, and use that as inspiration, and also maybe try a oil fueled stove bc. idk how hobos would have access to alcohol
Me and my dad built a waste oil fueled rocket stove, puts out brilliant heat and the thing actually sounds like a jet
@@nobody-pr7fg yeah, I've heard of people building blacksmithing forges with what is basically a oil rocket stove, they basically had blower instead of the air inlet
Real talk I know nothing about ceramic but that stuff's just satisfying to see.
Thanks, I’ll pass that on to Bonnie!
The alcohol stove slowly turning into a pulsejet was so funny
Once again bring back
CAUSE IMMA MODERN ROOOOOOOOOGUE
how to improve?
Put the pan holding screws in the sides on a 45degree angle JUST below the lip so that the pan can still sit on it- except, when you're done, you use the unmolested original lid and just put it back on to smother it, and use again later ;)
Jason with the canned fire extinguisher because that's the best one
7:00 Congratulations, you made a primitive rocket engine!
As for stove designs, I would say your best bet is probably a scaled up cat food can stove. The original design calls for a cat food can and a tuna can, but that can be scaled up to a #10 can and a quart paint can.
Stuff the quart paint can with a roll of TP and fill with alcohol.
Use a churchkey can opener to punch a dozen or so vent holes all around the outer perimeter of the #10 can's bottom, both on the bottom itself and on the wall circling the bottom.
Punch a handful of holes in the sides around the open top to act as air intakes
Invert the #10 can over the fuel can, and light.
The #10 can acts as a pot stand, air intake, duct, and flame dispersal mechanism, while the paint can just sits in the middle and burns.
The holes are too big to create a fwoosh, and the air intakes keep the fuel can from gaining too much heat and running away (getting hotter, which means more fuel vapor, which makes more heat, which means more fuel, vicious cycle).
Another great resource is zenstoves.net/ - Tons of designs, all tested and proven. I've made quite a few different varieties and they all work.
I love how Brian jumps back but then realises he's on a car
I’ve made all kinds of different soda can alcohol stoves from simple double wall low pressure stoves to more complex high pressure stoves. I’ve also made coffee pots and cooking pots out of soda cans.
Well, you could create vents on the sides of the can, that way the fire runs through the top of the stove while pulling oxygen in through the sides and providing enough airflow to prevent pressure building. Just puncture some slits around the sides.
I used to take comfort in the idea that our protagonists had adult supervision in the form of Cory.
Now I'm just scared for all three of them.
Used to make PAINT CAN BOMBS as a kid in almost the EXACT SAME WAY...holes in lid, something flammable (won't divulge my secret formula) and playing with natural stoichometric equalizing. Done right, the lid pops off with a huge bang and you retrieve it and repeat until told to stop!
The fwoosh timing was impeccable! :D
I imagine your first issue when scaling up was squared cubed law. I'm thinking of you cut the can in half you'd hve less internal volume where air could unintentionally be which would prevent the potato cannon like effect that Jason was lighting.
Also getting a kitchen stove like effect would be doable, but it would take some balancing, start with big holes, and narrowing them, you could do this by having 2 lids with holes cut in both, and by rotating the top lid you could increase or decrease the size of the openings.
I'd be willing to mach up a design and test it, or just making designs for y'all to copy and fiddle with yourself on the show
I know yall arent gonna actually do illegal things, but its be amazing to watch you guys hop a train
7:00 - That flame was so good it might've launched an aluminium frying pan.
This stove definitely needed larger holes in the lid and a multi sized drill bit would've worked a treat cos if the holes weren't big enough you could just redrill the holes.
I'd even have opted for 2-4 large holes near the bottom for air intake to pull oxygen in - like the fire triangle asks for - Fuel - yes... Flame - yes... Oxygen - yes but there isn't enough with this design. Think of the rocket stove and put 10-15mm holes or whatever the ye olde measurements are.
The little alcohol stoves made from 2 pop can bottoms seem more efficient. I can't remember if you guys have made them or not though. Oh and to improve that first design you guys tried, maybe try the same principle. Start with a new paint bucket, pop a circle of holes across the top, heat the bottom of the bucket with the torch first, then light the pressurized gasses? Probably want to be able to be behind something just in case it blows the lid off. Or just make the soda can stoves, if you haven't already.
From experience making penny stoves at home during the whole pandemic (because there wasn't much else to do and I have now a whole box filled with them. Don't judge), and from looking at the comments before me, yep, larger holes for that size can would be of help. Also, instead of pouring fuel on top of the stove and hoping for the best, it's best to set the stove on a fireproof plate of some kind, set the priming fuel on said plate, and then light that
huh. caught it before it arrived in my subscription notifications
Love you guys!
The vapour bulit up inside ive used one of those aluminum beer bottles yes bottle the cap has vents in it already and the top screwed on. I just used isopropanol 70%. i heated the container over a fire then lit the top after the fumes started. I then turned the flame down because once the alcohol is started it sustains itself pretty well but as soon as the container cools the flame shrinks then goes out.
Honestly i think the flame went down inside because you guys didnt have any pressure if you had more fumes comming out then the flame wouldnt go inside. Its like a lighter when the fuel goes down it doesnt go down into the lighter and explode because the nossle creates a volocity. Like when you replace your natural gas stove with a propane one you need to replace all the nossles because the gas has a different density and then it requires a fine tuned pressure.
Its not gunna explode if you guys sealed it with some sort of clamp ive had those things over aalot of heat before and it never pressurized enough to explode
Honestly, the rocket stove style design that was used before the cut due to weather would have been perfectly fine if there was an inch hole in the center and another inch hole an close to the bottom. Venturi effect for the win. The high pressure from the fire would create a vacuum sucking cool air in the bottom and expelling the fire and heat from the top.
Best part about the rocket stove design though, is you could just do it with a tree trunk. 6 inch diameter or more. Hole in the center down about 2/3 of the length. another hole on the side that meets making a "L" shape on the inside of the wood. Light the hole from the bottom and it is a self-feeding stove for the next few hours.
They effectively made a scaled up mansion jar jet engine
14:30 not quite the solid follow up to Grilled Cheese that I was hoping for but I guess that you can't write hits all the time
Instead of cooking with a hobo stove the title should be “How to Make a Hobo Bomb”