How to use Binders, Chains and Straps
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- In this video I'll show you how to use the Binders, Chains and straps when loading. I'll also show you some different types binders.
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Great explanation John.
Tying down a load properly and safely is number 1. You won’t get return business if you arrive with damaged goods.
Safe travels
We have just returned from our trip to Coober Pedy Uluru Kings Canyon Oodnadatta and a flight over lake Eyre which was amazing
Now starting my life as a retiree which is very strange. !! Not sure how I’m going to cope with such a big change.
Soon find out.
If your coming down the Hume through Seymour and have time my shout for a cuppa
Cheers
Gerry
You could have made a good video going to Uluru..
For sure. I'll try to remember to text you here when I go through Seymour. I hope you check these messages.
Nice one Johnno, much prefer your way on the ratchet
Thanks heaps. For sure
There were a number of studies carried out in Germany on the main contributing factors to road accidents, and bad roads were found to be the main culprit
I don't doubt that for a second. It's funny how we have to have road worthy vehicles but the road doesn't have to be road worthy.
Looking good out on the Sturt Highway this afternoon Johnno 😉[Shea-Oak Log, South Australia]
Is that where you are? I'm in Perth.
Well done mate , it has always suprised me that someone can get their truck licence and never get taught how to tie down a load .
Yes Kevin. After getting my licence I had to be shown how to do it all.
Good instruction video , you may have just prevented an accident , those chain ratchets are basically a come along , similar to whats used in mining and construction 😁👉👍✌️
Thanks Andre. Very good
Hi, the way you explained things slowly made it look easier to understand. Totally love the instructional videos Johnno.
Oh very nice. Thanks Kylie
Great video, thank you!
Awesome. Thanks Andy
Another great video from you jonno...this video remind me when im a truck cargo driver. Strugle with the strap..canvas. Etc. Im tired..im quit...than im start drive container truck till now ..what a sweet memories..thanks jonno...😅😅 Take care .🫡
I'm glad I could bring back some good memories for you.
About 18 months ago on the Warrego just outta Brisbane there were a couple of Hillbillies towing a medium sized John Deere tractor with front end loader on a large car trailer. They had a single 6mm strand of Telecom rope around each wheel of the tractor ,that was it! That car trailer was startin' to look a bit bowed & the bucket was resting up in the air just above the tray of the 6t Isuzu truck unsupported. It's shit like that which makes you look for another industry to work in!
Oh no. Yes not everyone knows how to load properly.
Good video. Ratchet straps make it so easier compared to ropes. Mind you, I always liked to carry rope as a backup. The first way you showed with the straps is the way I have always done it.
Thanks Stefan. I think just using ropes would have taken a lot longer.
Your way of using a ratchet strap is the right way. To undo using the other method you would use lower stomach muscles and risk giving hourself a hernia by pulling up.
The ratchet dogs (shown last) are hopeless. I much prefer the dog type ones or the first ratchet ones you showed.
Probably should explain that chains must not go around a tie rail but only around the uprights. I saw a load of cable reels about 3 weeks ago, and the chains were tied around the tie rails!
Yeah I didn't explain where to chain it to the rails. I was in a hurry again. I think I'll make another one down the track and fix up all these mistakes.
Those chain binders you showed last are so frustrating, the newer style ones that you showed before it are SO much better. Especially because you can tension with your body weight by pulling down, instead of trying to tighten sideways. They're newer style ones are much safer too, especially compared to the old dog ones. The old dog ones are great, but you've gotta know what you're doing and they can be very risky in the rain too if you're using a pipe to get more leverage. Great video by the way, you're doing an excellent job teaching people things they need to know.
Very nice. Thanks heaps. I used to like and prefer the centre over dogs used with a pipe the best. So easy and quick to use.
Nice one Jono. You're the man with that camera
Very nice. Thanks Corin
Thanks for this
Awesome. Thanks Jonathan
Thanks
Thank you very much Gerard. Sorry this message is late. With this old phone not all messages are coming up.
Hey Johnno many thanks for a very good instructional video. It bought back memories in my earlier years driving and using those straps
Very good. I'm glad I was able to being back some good memories.
Gday Jonno , When I was still driving we called Straps Load Binders we didn't have Load Binders till much later But we did have Ropes , Dogs and Chains and some thing called Tarps , you spent all day loading and all night driving unload next day and start again , ah the good old days No it was bloody hard work but I'm glad I did it , I'm 72 now , I've been to some of the places you go but not out west , say from SA up and through Queensland , ( love Blackall )
Oh those were the hard days. I'm glad I didn't do it back then.
Gday Johno . When I discovered those yellow handle ratchet binders it changed my work life. So quick and easy. I was using those other ratchet binders with the 90 degree handle and the over centre dangerous ones you didn’t show.. People put a piece of pipe on the yellow ones and bugger them. Just drive a few k and retighten and they won’t come loose 😁
Thanks Mike. Yes those ones are great. So quick and easy to use.
Thanks Jonno, you're a life saver, just for the straps part alone. Been using the second way and going nuts! Liked and saved for future reference 👌
Thank you very much for your kind donation. Oh wow. You were using the second method... Was that the way you were first shown and always used it?
@@RoadTrainAdventures I think I learned it from RUclips videos, as you do. Yours was a lot clearer and better than the others, despite your camera issues :)
Yes. I think I'll make this video again one day.
Jonno the strap, I have been doing it the wrong way. Thx ..again heading off across to WA this Monday from Phillip island. Will keep my eyes open for you.
Realy nice explaind. bit of comic parts in the vids,i like that. Everything is so serious these days. We need to laugh more. If you ever want to stop trucking you would be a very good instructor. Sorry for your ''not weekend home''. So i wish you a safe trip to Perth. And lots of good stuf for the next vid. lol. See you there.
Thanks. You know what's funny... I'm quite a funny person but for some reason the humour doesn't come out much in my videos.
@@RoadTrainAdventures That seems difficult to me. Perhaps just as difficult as writing a comic text. I sometimes try that with you myself. But you don't know the writer so it's hard to see what he meant. You will then be immediately suspended on FB or Tik Tok{Tez}. LOL. It is how the viewer or reader takes it in. Sometimes someone interprets a funny written text completely incorrectly by the reader. Like you did last week on FB at Big Rigs I thought. You made a joke about the number of viewers of a trucker vlogger. I got the joke. But you got some nasty reactions from people who saw it as arrogant and a nasty comment and not as a joke. That creates unpleasant situations. But in a video you can emphasize a comic text or situation through a facial expression or body language. Like you did in this one. Act. Is to emphasize, exaggerate, those qualities that you possess or want to express. For example, when we took driving lessons ,100 years ago, we were not allowed to look into the mirrors out of the corner of our eyes, but we had to turn our heads so that the instructor saw that you were looking in the mirror. That is not possible with a written text. How ever. Just like Ken and Tez, your a person where I would like to drink a beer at the bar. { that also means i m in Australia.lol.}And believe me. It's been 13 years since I did that. LOL. Hmm. Sorry. I write to much again. But they say that people ho write a lot don't speak so much. i think thats tru. haha.
Very good. If you make it back to Australia to live, where would you live?
@@RoadTrainAdventures In a truck, for a decent company . Because there are many legible transport companies, also in Australia. To do the job with my heart as i am yuse to. And explore the freedom and open country of Australia and her extremes. I prefer avoiding big cities and places where there are many people.If I could take that opportunity, my life would be grateful for that company......awww. This sounds good for a job interview. LOL
Yes I see. I'll see you next week then.
Yep, you are right about the straps Johnno. Your way is better and I'd say safer too. Take care mate, Norm in England.
Very nice. Thanks Norm
Hi Jonno, If I ever catch up with you on the road one day I will show you a way to secure that strap roll so that it does not flop around at all.👍👍👍👍
For sure. Let us know if you see me.
Don't forget me I have my way to , we'll have a gutter party
@@RoadTrainAdventures Will do Jonno.
Very good
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I always do straps up 'the wrong way'. I find it much easier to take the initial slack out with one hand by pulling up. I've never had an issue undoing them, just a firm tap down on the handle and pull the excess back theough.
I guess you have to do it the way you're most comfortable with.
Thanks Johnno that was helpful. I use the very small strap and ratchet but not your way,which seems so much easier. And your videos are amusing,especially the food chat ie cost ,taste ,will there be any??? Makes me smile
Thanks,Anne
Yes I don't do much about food. OK I'll try to include more on that.
Watching your videos from Lahore Pakistan
Very nice. It's great to have you along.
@@RoadTrainAdventures Welcome and thanks Sir 👍
Thanks Desi
Thanks Jono. Sure beats ropes and dogs on chains that we used. Had a pipe to get the dog down tight. Every now and then it would slip and the pipe became a projectile!!
Thanks Mark. I used to love those dogs. I had a 1 metre length pipe I'd use. So easy and quick.
Awesome Johnno, thanks for showing that. Now I can tidy up the ends of my straps the correct way! Safe journeys mate!
Very good. If love to know how you were doing it up to now.
I was doing it very similar rolling the excess strap with a hole in the centre but once you push the strap through the centre of the roll instead of looping back over the roll I was looping it over the tightened part of the strap above the ratchet. It did the job and given that my truck is a rigid with curtains it was probably good enough but your technique is much better and more secure. Hope that makes sense.
Yes I understand.
Awesome mate. I’m sort of a late starter in trucking. I’m 55 and got back into it in Feb last year. I started back in the early 90’s delivering chemicals, had my DG and all. Things were a lot different back then…my career led me onto different paths but I always loved trucks and never got the chance again till now. I always wanted to drive a Kenworth! 😊 At the moment I drive a 15t 2019 Hino rigid around Melbourne and love it, I work for a great company. One day I will get my HC/MC and have a go. Your videos amongst others like Ken The Homeless Truckie have been invaluable! Thank you for passing on your knowledge!
Maybe I'll see you around Melbourne one day then. We moved there a number of years ago.
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Thanks Ehsan
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what do you like to do for maintenance of ratchets and binders - to get the road grit and dust of out of them?
A lot of our drivers will airway oil on the chain ratchets and wind them in when not in use. That's pretty well all we do.
Thanks Johnno, really enjoyed that!
Very good. Thanks Steve
funny you make the comment about the 'Kiwi-way' of threading a ratchet strap. Youre right though - very common over here
Yes. I say that because nearly all of the Kiwi's I've met do it that way.
That 2nd method on the ratchet straps is most strange, cannot see any advantage at all, love the loose end method, brilliant 👏.
Never seen the first chain ratchet binder before, the 2nd one is standard in Europe i think, the previous ones with an over centre feature are banned.
Great job on one handed filming and working 💪, thanks for sharing.
Yes good stuff
Thanks old Mate for the explanation. I still shudder when I see the loose end of the chain being stored away as I had a Mate who got his elbow destroyed by a loose chain. He was driving at night between Cloncurry and Mount Isa in the 1970’s with the window down and his arm resting on the door sill. A road train coming the other way with the loose end of the chain flying about and it struck him on the elbow. Ouch and he had deformed arm for the rest of his life
Thanks John. Wow that sounds like a bad accident. No good
Good video....some people once you learn it never goes others may forget or maybe in fridge trucks so don't tie anything down so never learnt....I admit every few yrs or bored ill download to read the latest road rules, heavy vehicle hand and load resistants books to keep up to date in case there has been any changes im not aware of....it's a bit of advice I can give to even seasoned drivers, I've been almost stung not knowing that certain rules or road laws have changed....what I do recommend is if a new driver is getting into interstate is to get your hands on the road rule books of all states you would be surprised that there is some difference and may bite you and if you get an ass of a cop and you say you not from the state it may not fly may results in a fine....also if it's a road rule that has changed since getting your licence a cop will say it's up to you as a professional driver to keep up 2 date....
Thanks Steven. Very good advice. I used to do the same when I started. When I got time I sound read the Gazettes on different trailer combinations.
@@RoadTrainAdventures I still can't get use too left turns from right lanes in Melbourne 🤣 it's just strange to me sharing roads with trams....not fun in peak hour and your not familiar with it.
Oh in the city? Yes I have to remember that when I'm in the car.
@@RoadTrainAdventures yeah my last job the contract was delivering for Syd tools from the DC Sydney to stores in melb and qld and believe me most stores and locations should of been done in a rigid truck....but no I soon become a huge hater of Melbourne when it wasn't the city it was the contract some delivery were locked up at nights so couldn't park up in side so had no choice to roll in peak hour and have to preform difficult and sometimes illegal moves to get into site....when I get stressed and angry my concentration becomes shit.....and its not like you can stop get out have a smoke calm down not when your taking up all lanes in the middle of doing a left hand reverse with cars not stopping....
thoughts/comment on one half-twist in a strap to stop it fluttering in the wind?
I don't know. It's rare that I allow a twist in it. I didn't know that it twist more with no twist.
i appreciated the video, well explained, cheers !
Awesome. Thanks Mitch
Thanks again for the instruction 👍🏼
Anytime
Hi from France, i ran general freight out of Melbourne / Geelong for years (Blakiston's)back then we had dogs and chains, with the infamous dog bar,then hide it all under a tarp,if you know,you know,didn't have too many straps back in the day,i've got a lovely scar on my forehead when the dog bar came back and hit me straight in the head,eight stiches,i,drive a tanker now.
I used to love those dogs. I had a 1 metre length pipe to help do them up right. So much better.
Ha ha I do ratchet straps both ways, depending on the load. When it’s done the way you dislike I do the loop through and tie it off to the tight strap so it isn’t long like you had it, aren’t we allowed only 6 inches of overhang? And I’ve met a lot of people that can’t use chain binders and wanted to go back to dogs. But they are pretty easy if you get it right first up. Great video man very informative
Thanks Brad. I once the old dogs too. I had a 1 metre pipe for it. So fast to get set up. The 6 inches of overhang? If you're talking about the overhang of the Binders age ratchets I believe they can overhang to the width of the ratchets.
Thanks for the vid mate helps out alot keep up the great work
Very good. Thanks Leon
I had a job where I carried steel for a while, intermittently between other loads. What a nightmare! Strapping and chaining everything down and then having to stop several times at the start of the run to retighten everything before continuing on the journey.... great video Johnno!!!ps where are you now? Last episode you were remote WA?
I'm passing through Penong in South Australia.
Do you use any of the truck winch straps. No loose ends. All on a roll. I've driven a few trucks with that style of strap. With the standard thread through sort I'm one of those double back guys. And then I tie the excess off above the ratchet. Probably not the Aussie way. But I'm not Aussie. With the chain binders I've only used the old ratchet sort. They were most commonly used. It is like the rope truckie hitch. There must be a dozen ways of doing that. I use two or three. Especially if it is raining. Version I was shown to stop slip on wet rope. Have to secure that load. Your responsibility.
Thanks Dave. We have the barrel straps too but I don't like them as much. I can get them as tight when though I have a big bar.
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Thanks Jonathan
Hi Johnno
Things to learn🤓
I like your Rachet better too.😁
I think I’ve got the binder worked out, old one is harder 🤓
Yes. Everyone needs the new style ratchet for chains.
Johno, I’ll give you some lessons on the “right” way to do the straps next time I come 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Ha ha. Yes do that
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Hi johno I take it you have made it into perth okay take care
Yes I'm in Perth. Got a few things on but I don't know what load I'll get. Mum is flying back in from overseas Thursday so I went to before then.
Just because you can't do it the other way doesn't mean it's wrong, they probably think your way is wrong. Truckies have different ways of doing all kinds of things and as long as what they do is safe and legal and even if it's different then what you do it doesn't mean it's wrong, it's just different.
Yes I get what you're saying. Maybe I just need to be shown this other way better.
You might want to invest in a headcam for some of your shots.
I've got one but i didn't think of it until it was over. Silly me.
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How much have (Dog's) changed Johnno what a difference to the old skool (Dog's) wow..
A piece of pipe or a "Dogbar"..
How do they hold compared to the old one's mate..
I used to do my Straps the same as you mate..
Thanks Scott. I used to like the old centre over binder and would use it with a pipe. They were great.
@RoadTrainAdventures 💯 Johnno..
Do the new one's hold the freight as good..
Definitely. Very tight
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Who needs a gym when you can do pull ups off your dog handle lol
Ha ha. You got it
Never had them when I was driving we had the old dog type
Yes. I wouldn't have to go back to those days
How about the old school pull down dogs lol
They were the best with a 1 metre pipe on the end. They're not allowed anymore.
People from Perth talk very weird 🤣
Ha ha.
Different type of dog that I used use we had to get a piece of pipe and pull the dog down
Yes they are the best. I wish we still had those.
@@RoadTrainAdventures how far did you get today
I'm at Ceduna now having some food then I'll continue on. Hopefully to Nullarbor.
@@RoadTrainAdventures no worries did you have oysters I have a dozen in freezer they came from coffin bay love oysters
No I had Hungry Jacks
Those screw binders are garbage 🗑
You got that right
@RoadTrainAdventures u always run out of thread before the chain is tight or it twists the chain up. Ratchet ones are so quick and easy.
Ha ha. Yes them you have to undo it all to grab another bite.
Thanks
Awesome. Thanks Mark
Your welcome Jono, the strap I also have been doing it incorrectly ..so thx. And I am coming across to Perth in the caravan with two other vans.So look out next week, will keep a look out for you.
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Thank you very much for your kind donation.
Your welcome Johnno😊
@xxmotovlogs9809 Very nice