Christine Jorgensen Reveals: interview: 1957
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2019
- Christine Jorgensen is unquestionably the most publicized, the most controversial and interesting personality of a generation.
In this album, hear her PERSONALLY discuss in an open and frank interview the enigma of her transformation and the subsequent electrifying experiences of her phenomenal career.
For the rare moment when your guests have become bored with musical sounds… give this LP a spin. Everyone will be delightfully entertained by this witty, exciting and informative interview.
Interview Prepared and Conducted by
Mr. R. RUSSELL (Julius "Nipsey" Russell)
J Records- N.Y. N.Y. (1957) 
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Someone like Christine is much needed today. She tells the story of gender so clearly and firmly with such self-respect. She is above the drama, speaks with the intellect of an expert but in plain words.
The more interviews I see of Christine's, the greater my respect and admiration for her grows.
Her speaking voice, cadence and vocabulary is beautiful to listen to…especially when compared to how badly people speak today.
Christine was so enlightened. When asked about homosexuality she defends gays and says that the problem with gays is not the gays themselves, but rather the society.
I have said that for years...and its the truth.
God Made adam and Eve. That's the only way humanity can cover the earth.
More people should listen to this interview, I agree.
Christine in this interview (and others I have seen) is smart, eloquent, poised, sensitive and charming. A Lady.
This is brilliant! What an elegant woman she was. That clip of her descent from the airplane in Idylwild in 1953, was the essence of clear composure. Given what she'd gone through, and the fact that many were not exactly kind or welcoming, she carried herself like a queen!
A woman just as feminine as any other - and well ahead of her time to talk so correctly and intelligently about the issues she discusses especially at a time when even so-called " experts" were writing all sorts of prejudiced falsehoods about people who are "different." God bless Christine - clearly a lovely lady.
She has such a lovely voice! She sounds so well-spoken and intelligent, and her views on LGBTQ people are so similar to people’s views nowadays!
Thats because those views are correct
I so wish that Christine was alive today to speak with as I start my transition to being female everything she said still ring's true today.
It's so far it's about a year after your listening to Christine Jorgensen and going through your treatment I hope it went well for you you may never see this because it is a year ago but I hope it all went well for you
Miss Jorgensen u were so cute & gorgeous Miss Jorgen Rip Mam ❤️
Such a pioneer of her time her bold intellectual personality and the way she conducted herself is a testament to the LGBTQ Community for I Personally will Not Forget Miss Jorgensens contributions in paving the way
I keep forgetting that this interview took place in the 1950’s! We’re it not for the crackling, I’d say this interview sounds so modern!!
Honestly, the openness to respectfully talk about the trans community is beyond that of some current day interviews. They have curiosity about a community of people not understood by the mainstream, but they don't decide that they're scheming to "groom kids"...they just respectfully ask the questions and accept her answers as someone with lived experience.
Honestly, I love how her stance even transcends the stated medical understanding of the time of "having parts of her gender somewhere in her body." I love how even with that medical theory to work with, she still defends that we don't need to explore their bodies like test subjects, we just have to listen to what trans people have explored and know about themselves identity-wise. Her words still hold up to current theories of not physically determined but socially constructed and assigned gender.
Even as a cis woman, she's an idol to me, she's got this amazing wisdom and viewpoint of her era.
After seeing many interviews with Christine Jorgenson, it's apparent that she's a lovely, intelligent, well spoken and polished person. Attributes I hope to attain myself. Courage and perserverance seems fitting to describe her journey. But there there are so many more positive and affirmative words for Ms. Jorgenson. It seems she lived a gracious life without demanding general society succumb to her demands because of her own very personal, and intimately beautiful choices. No pronoun demands, no safe space demands, no demanding lawsuits to bend general society's views. I think, I hope she lived her life being her own equisitely lovely self without demanding affirmation from anyone other than herself. I hope I am right.
Maybe read about her later life, where she tried to get married (twice) but couldn't because she couldn't get her sex changed to female on her birth certificate. Or how her 2nd fiance lost his job when they found out he was engaged to her. Or read about how the police addressed her as "sir" in Las Vegas and threatened to put her in prison when her contract with the hotel she was performing at became rocky.
If you think she wouldn't want proper pronouns and for society to change you're truly living under a rock. She had no position to demand those things in the 1950s, as most of society viewed her as a side show or a man or a freak. It's a miracle she wasn't killed. If it's really so hard for you to be considerate to trans people and for them to have equal treatment under the law, you need to step outside your bubble and realize it's not as easy for some people, and not everyone has the same experiences. Trans people want proper pronouns the same way you would want them, and a safe space to exist without being attacked, harrassed, or arrested the same as you.
You make a good distinction between Christine's demeanor and the authoritarian, demanding spirit of today.
You are highly mistaken if you think she would not wish to bring in the authoritarian measures for her protection just like anyone else, but people like you see that as a problem, because it does not concern you, because you don't realize your own freedom relies on validation of all individual differences, anytime someone purposefully misgenders someone they are giving power away from individuals to an authoritarian entity. The fact you may think trans community has become authoritarian is only due to this abusive power dynamic perpetrated by bigots. This has been studied within the academia for decades how it works.
Invalidation of gender identity is an attack on an individual freedom of everyone to be our authentic selves and self embodiment, this is how attack on abortion rights came around the same time as an attack on transgender healthcare, it stems from the invalidation of our differences which leads to authoritarianism. It is an attack that upholds religious fundamentalism and absolutism systematically ruling over it within this world. It turns humans from subjects into objects like a land, to be owned, commodified or weaponized. This is where the actual sexism comes from, an objectification of what is meant to be divine or unique in and of itself. And this is also where the idea of man and woman stems from, fundamentalism, in spite of the reality that there has not been found one single evidence of one universal distinction between male and female in nature, and that includes gametes or chromosomes, that is because it does not exist, and never will, as Mother Nature always defies definitions and universalism imposed upon her by the human arrogance.
We all see things differently indeed, but it is ultimately the 'validation' of those differences without imposing our ideas onto it (as they are erasing those differences in that power dynamic) that determine the freedom of an individual, because how we see those things no longer matter if we have invalidated them, since we have become the intruders of the diversity of life at that point, and therefore we are taking away the freedom of an individual, which is bound to manifest on a collective scale over time, that is if this kind of interaction is being maintained and perpetuated. That is how it works in this world, the more you disrespect and dishonor people's differences, the more you will see attacks on your own freedom as a reflection of your own authoritarian behaviour, which as it seems are largely unconscious due to the lack of self awareness and a holistic perspective.
Why can't schools teach us this😭😤
Teach what, exactly? I don't understand the question.
I feel like incorporating interviews like this into history classes on the 50s would be super interesting and insightful to demonstrate how social attitudes can be influence or can differ from the mainstream understanding, maybe in a unit on misinformation and propaganda too, to compare this interview to one containing examples of the current day anti trans ignorance. She answers questions that professionals are still asking in the 2020s.
But sadly, things like this get censored out of schooling. A teacher in the US got in huge trouble in the media for simply...playing a Disney movie that contains a subtle LGBTQ romance plot between teens.
The corperate world isn't ready for a diverse education like this without someone pinning representatives as whatever harmful stereotype they were told about.
such class and dignity, an exemple I will follow in my transistion
Wowwww this really shows how the world has changed. He considered homosexuality a problem? She is so so intelligent, the way she talks about society having a problem with homosexuality being the actual issue, not gay people themselves. Duh? But somehow a lot of people didn't see that back then.
ONLY 124 LIKES??? THIS WOMAN IS AMAZING!
This dude is crazy. Not amazing.
@@martinmayberry755 pft ok, you try live in a world where everyone hates you, attacks you, and its constantly against you, yer, now try be happy, and strong about it, because this woman was strong af for her life situation, and it says more that you came into this interview to say a few negative word's then it ever will for me admiring someone so courageous like her, what I'd like to say to you is fuck off, that's it, your full of shit and your not the first to think your invalid "arguments" are gods first love, now, let me be, because I've dealt with a lot of shit already from people worse than you, your not the cherry to top thing of, stop thinking you are😋
Don't say it like that people will want to "correct" u.
It's interesting, I just got done reading Christine's Autobiography. While I never doubted her story, it's crazy to find proof of the events within. There is something rather time travel like that all this was happening in the 50's. Yet I talk to someone from that time period it's like it never happened. Then there is this interview, as well as even Dr. Harry Benjamin's Preface to the Autobiography. Both of which sound like they could have come out last week (Barring the obvious). Thank you for uploading this, according to the Autobiography this record didn't sell very well, so I was worried it would be a rare collectors item.
This 1957 interview is conducted by the great African American entertainer & comedian, Julius "Nipsey" Russell (September 15, 1918 - October 2, 2005) .......Not "Mr. R. Russell" whomever that would be.
Thanks for the correction.
I always wondered what work Nipsy Russell did. I just remember him from Hollywood Squares.
Her speaking voice reminds me of Joan Crawford.
In my opinion what made Christine Jorgensen so sensational, especially with the press. Is because she was the first passable transexual celebrity in America. People back in the 1950s were so shocked and bewildered that science could turn a man into a blonde bombshell. She was the Trans-Rita Hayworth.
Thank you Christine Jorgensen
He asked such personal questions about her like her height and weight. Like he was basically studying her. It was odd but okay.
Not saying that he was justified in his with his line of questioning, but she was one of the first or the first person to have gender reassignment surgery. He seemed very intrigued.
I'm noticing from a lot of videos that Christine spoke in a Mid-Atlantic accent.
She has Joan Crawford’s eyes .
Joan Crawford was a woman. Thank you, Mr malesupremacist.
And what’s Miss Jorgensen.
@@paulht3251
Joan Crawford was a woman
Christine Jorgensen was a woman
Amanda Rose, however, is a weirdo transphobe who needs to be kept away from normal people
@@paulht3251 miss jorgensen is a beautiful woman
@@amandarose3169 You're welcome peasant.
Wonderful lady. The polar opposite of Caitlyn Jenner.
Who is doing this interview somebody said is Nipsey Russell I can't imagine Nipsey Russell being so uncool asking such foolish questions was a very smart man who knows long time ago who cares
The audio sounds heavily edited. I hear a lot of cuts and changes in the audio.
its from the 1950's - of course it isn't gonna sound professional tf?
i can't help but feel that she downplayed things a lot to make herself palatable to the general public
the world hasnt changed much, with washrooms, sex etc. I think the mid century transsexuals were the real deal. They did whay they had to do and then lived an amazing life
i think this was from a record.
As a true transexual myself. I think that being trans needs to be presented to the world as Christine did. She knew she had a medical condition cause by hormones etc. It wasn’t a political identity thing like the circus it’s turned into today. She worked with a team of doctors who diagnosed her. Now it’s become trendy and people are self diagnosing. She was insanely graceful and extremely smart. She saw all the things that were wrong with society. So so thankful for her!!! So happy she lived her best life!
I have always been happy she lived her life as she was meant to as well. It is a shame how stupid and ignorant so many people still are.
What makes anyone a "true transsexual?"
I'm trans myself but I don't feel it's okay to judge whether or not someone is really trans
True
It's a shit show today and the trans social construct is a very small part of it. We should probably figure out what is making people hate who they actually are instead of glorifying disorders and mutilations but we also have bigger problems and fish to fry especially in the United States.
I understand that you want to and completely deserve to be taken seriously. But othering your community like this is not going to do you any favours, this isn't cutting off "the circus" from your community. It's grovelling and kissing the feet of the people who decided that trans people who are not too challenging and are easy to hide away and disguise as cis are the only ok ones.
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Mentally disordered persons can be quite charming. This one is.
Lol ur gay
I do not believe that everyone has 2 sexes to various degrees in their bodies. He did this for attention.
it’s literal science
Your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.
Lol ur gay
Mr. Christine Jorgensen in male-bonding "conversation".