World tree makes all your lands rainbow, so you don't have to think too hard there either. I think it mostly comes down to praetors being better than gods. They've got much bigger bodies and more generically powerful abilities than the kaldheim ones
Yep gods are way more inconsistent. Theros gods need devotion to be a creature and attack. Amonkhet gods have their own requirements to attack. Kaldheim gods are all over the place on usefulness just as a beater. Meanwhile Praetors have good stats AND either ETB effects or effects that shift the game state in your favor. Praetors just work once on board, too many Gods require you to be built just right for them to matter.
@@nate_venture Also, we have more praetors than the world tree got gods. Visiting the same topic over the course of three sets really helps to bulk out a mechanic and flesh out a world.
@@derrickthewhite1 Imagine if there was a publishing plan, where you would release sets in "blocks", so you got to get a good look at a plane, its story, and its mechanics, everything by the end being really fleshed out. You could even have a format dedicated to only playing in those "blocks". Would be quite amazing
This tree's ability to ramp seems really strong. World tree was a land, which is obviously really good, but by itself the card didn't help you get there. Whereas this tree being able to repeatedly ramp you for 2 mana seems really good for helping you get to the 10 mana
"This is the storyline playing out in front of us!" Ahh yes, that time when Jin-Gitaxias and Jin-Gitaxias marched into battle together! And Elesh Norn, Urabrask, and Sheoldred fighting arm in arm! :P Tho yeah, I understand what you mean.
I was in Hamhocks stream when you did this and he literally couldn't do anything because of elish norn. He said it was the coolest thing he has seen out of the new set!
@@dennismonk9559 The "VIP" tags suggest this was during a streamer preview event, in which case there would be a much smaller pool of players than open Arena play. ...MTGMaloneVIP... was that Post Malone? 😸
My only suggestion would be add some Blue triomes. You often had Jin stuck in hand and only have 1 island. So a Spara's Headquarters can be tutored with Vorinclex for the second blue source.
Well, in the story, the praetor don't really get along. Elesh Norn has Sheodred and Urabrask killed so I guess that explains why they didn't do too well in the story.
Elesh Norn also had Jin bind the Glistening Oil to New Phyrexia for some reason so when..it was taken care of the entire new Phyrexian army apparently poofed. This was not a well written story.
I've been running Realmbreaker in my Tasha Historic Brawl deck, and it really hasn't disappointed yet, despite only actually activating the second ability once (the deck runs both Sheoldred and Sheoldred the Apocalypse, as well as Jin-Gitaxia Core Augur). That deck runs mill to stock the graveyard, and so there is never a lack of lands in the enemy graveyard. Ramping each turn for 2 is just extremely powerful, paricularly given that the creatures in the deck are top-level threats (Praetors, Hullbreaker, Toxrill, etc.).
I know they're trying to do their thing... But they should probably be a little afraid of OUR thing... cuz our thing's boutta happen... and our thing's pretty good... My personal new fav Against the Odds quote
I just love doing this!! Some people call this unfair but if gods are allowed to do it then I say let the praetors have their turn. also doing this in historic brawl or commander is crazy as you have access to all 16 praetors and with the sneaky little haste enabler that is urabrask means I attack for big and that's game
You could totally find multiple copies of Sheoldred or Vorinclex for multiple ETB triggers. I think you can even find multiple Moms to get even more triggers.
Given how powerful some battle's ETBs are, I wonder if there's going to be a Battle Mom deck? If nothing else, doubling up Invasion of Ikoria to grab two creature with cool ETBs seems like it'd be ridiculously sweet.
Wizards since Kaldheim: "Oh no the Phyrexians are on the move! This could be the end of the multiverse!" Wizards as of MoM: "LOL just kidding. The Phyrexians were declawed kittens all along and couldn't do anything, so everything the main characters did really was unnecessary."
On losing go-first coin flips: "I've gone 0 for 4 since playing this deck. That may not sound like a big deal, but when you're playing best of 1 it actually is." YES. YES IT IS. Thank god someone prominent actually said it. I primarily play best of 1 as I'm a casual player with time constraints (while I'll play some more casual decks I'll build them and play them as well as possible), and the disparity in your chance to win between going first and second is huge, probably in the range of 15-20% (the last figure I saw was from a few years ago, but said the average winrate of a player going second in historic Bo1 was 43% - so 14% WL disparity). Given that it seems to be one of their main game modes, it's pretty crazy that they haven't tried to balance it at all. The balance of "well, half the time you'll go first" doesn't exactly feel good when you lose multiple games to your opponent having one extra turn (often, they'll beat you either the turn before you would've stabilized, or the turn before you would've won yourself).
Note that Changelings also count as Praetors. I'm debating doing a Commander deck like this with all the praetors and several of the Changelings with maybe Morophon the Boundless as commander.
I miss playing jank IRL. I once won a local game night with the jankiest hero of iroas deck that could turn 4 people. The gods were on my side that day, cause I nut drew twice in a row after managing to scrape my way to the finals. and the other guy basically only got to play lands. He said it was crazy awesome and everyone was happy cause I never won, always playing homebrew jank with no reguards to the metagame. Now that im better at brewing and playing on arena it feels like everyones too salty to appreciate getting hit for 28 damage on turn 4.
You are referring to the first printed Jin-Gitaxias, (Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur) which has flash and does what you remember. There have been two new Jin's since then: Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant (Kamigawa Neon Dynasty), and Jin-Gitaxias (March of the Machines)
The only way to play the GG and not seem like a jerk is if you're on the losing end, or you're responding to a GG from the other guy who's about to lose
Hey, Seth. I think it's great that you are so worried about being respectful and all, you are such a sweet person, but I think when you do a Realmbreaker deck, put a bunch of Preators on the battlefield, on early access day, you are allowed to have some fun! Flip them to have a bunch of busted sagas, do some durdly stuff, see how they will play out. This is your moment! If opp doesn't want to see all the fun stuff, they can just concede.
They are told by wotc to not concede or bm each other. They want people to not concede to show off the set. Seth knows the other person is streaming and it doesn't look great if that person has to sit there and be in a losing game forever
Is there someone copying this channel? saw some asian guy with same channel name, glad my favorite bearded streamer is around. My table top mill deck came from you
Ya know if you think about it. Its kind of a flavor fail that realmbreaker doesnt get Praetors from any zone considering its supposed to smash through the blind eternities to go places it really shouldn't
World tree makes all your lands rainbow, so you don't have to think too hard there either. I think it mostly comes down to praetors being better than gods. They've got much bigger bodies and more generically powerful abilities than the kaldheim ones
Yep. Kaldheim gods were pretty niche.
Yep gods are way more inconsistent. Theros gods need devotion to be a creature and attack. Amonkhet gods have their own requirements to attack. Kaldheim gods are all over the place on usefulness just as a beater.
Meanwhile Praetors have good stats AND either ETB effects or effects that shift the game state in your favor. Praetors just work once on board, too many Gods require you to be built just right for them to matter.
@@nate_venture Also, we have more praetors than the world tree got gods. Visiting the same topic over the course of three sets really helps to bulk out a mechanic and flesh out a world.
@@derrickthewhite1 Imagine if there was a publishing plan, where you would release sets in "blocks", so you got to get a good look at a plane, its story, and its mechanics, everything by the end being really fleshed out. You could even have a format dedicated to only playing in those "blocks". Would be quite amazing
This tree's ability to ramp seems really strong. World tree was a land, which is obviously really good, but by itself the card didn't help you get there. Whereas this tree being able to repeatedly ramp you for 2 mana seems really good for helping you get to the 10 mana
"This is the storyline playing out in front of us!"
Ahh yes, that time when Jin-Gitaxias and Jin-Gitaxias marched into battle together! And Elesh Norn, Urabrask, and Sheoldred fighting arm in arm! :P
Tho yeah, I understand what you mean.
Right? I really thought we’d see it play out at least over the summer, across a few sets
@@TheStanishStudios you did see it play out in a few set, what do you think was going on in kaldheim
7:40 "Opponent, they're the good guys" *mouses over Skrelv*
hey at least Skrelv defected from Elesh's New Phyrexia
7:49 I guess this is the story of if the Praetors actually worked together, and also only invaded a single plane instead of all of them
I was in Hamhocks stream when you did this and he literally couldn't do anything because of elish norn. He said it was the coolest thing he has seen out of the new set!
At first I was like how could the second opponent scoop then I realized it was the same as the first opponent so they already saw it
yeah crazy he got the same opp 2 games in a row
@@dennismonk9559 The "VIP" tags suggest this was during a streamer preview event, in which case there would be a much smaller pool of players than open Arena play.
...MTGMaloneVIP... was that Post Malone? 😸
My only suggestion would be add some Blue triomes. You often had Jin stuck in hand and only have 1 island. So a Spara's Headquarters can be tutored with Vorinclex for the second blue source.
Next level of this deck: Take it to Explorer, use Yorion, and include all of the modern praetors.
Next step, get all the praetors, not just every iteration of the famous five
Well, in the story, the praetor don't really get along. Elesh Norn has Sheodred and Urabrask killed so I guess that explains why they didn't do too well in the story.
#RIPBOZO
She failed to consider utilizing the power of friendship smh.
Huh, I guess teamwork really does make the dream work
also starting a war on multiple front is like so stupide. It cool story wise but as far as strategie go it unbelivably poor choice making
Elesh Norn also had Jin bind the Glistening Oil to New Phyrexia for some reason so when..it was taken care of the entire new Phyrexian army apparently poofed. This was not a well written story.
The guy twincasting breaches and invokes with chandra was living the dream.
In historic, the first urabrask is a haste enabler for the entire bunch to swing all at once
you also get old elesh to immediately torpedo their board, and then if they're still alive their hand is gone bc jin.
Wilderness Reclamation + Realmbreaker allows for it to combo out on T5. It's janky, but it can definitely be played in older formats as well.
Wilderness Reclamation is illegal in every single format available in Arena.
@@kahaneck I was thinking of modern, truth be told.
@@Alessandro-vv2fh too powerful for me =/
@@kahaneck Every ranked format, but it is allowed in Historic Brawl ;)
@@Alessandro-vv2fh I’d love to see him try this in Modern with the old praetors. 😊
I would have loved seeing the phyrexians conquer a few planes and the war dragging out a bit more like a real war
They did more or less conquer many of them, like theros
Plus the war has been going on since kaldheim
When I got Realmbreaker during the pre-release draft, my first thought was, "Cool, this synergizes with Ebon Praetor from Fallen Empires."
Ha, me too. Ebon Praetor has some of my favorite art in all Magic.
Don't forget Sanguine Praetor from Guildpact!
8:00 they took over a bunch but when the portals closed the oil stopped working because the effects dont carry over planes
Seth: Every single Praetor!
Historic Players: Are you sure about that?
The one where he finds out you can get away with just ramp, removal, and praetors in Arena 90% of the time
Awesome deck!!
Now do it in Modern with all 15 praetors
*17
or 18 in vintage/legacy/commander
@@plasmakitten4261 this. This is what I came here to say. Thank you
I've been running Realmbreaker in my Tasha Historic Brawl deck, and it really hasn't disappointed yet, despite only actually activating the second ability once (the deck runs both Sheoldred and Sheoldred the Apocalypse, as well as Jin-Gitaxia Core Augur). That deck runs mill to stock the graveyard, and so there is never a lack of lands in the enemy graveyard. Ramping each turn for 2 is just extremely powerful, paricularly given that the creatures in the deck are top-level threats (Praetors, Hullbreaker, Toxrill, etc.).
This is one of my most original tribal commander decks. I love to play it! Glad to see you play similar deck in another format. Great content!
love seth's consideration for gg manners but i also love crim playing osu! on the emote wheel
I know they're trying to do their thing... But they should probably be a little afraid of OUR thing... cuz our thing's boutta happen... and our thing's pretty good...
My personal new fav Against the Odds quote
Yep. Pulled this in commander. It was such an awesome moment. Adding it with maskwood nexus. This was an awesome moment
I just love doing this!! Some people call this unfair but if gods are allowed to do it then I say let the praetors have their turn. also doing this in historic brawl or commander is crazy as you have access to all 16 praetors and with the sneaky little haste enabler that is urabrask means I attack for big and that's game
As soon as the card was spoiled, I’ve been looking forward to this :)
Back to back rounds of realm breaking against Post Malone is kinda funny 🤣
Seth Game 2: "Aww opponent doesn't want to sit around for the praetors"
Post Malone Game 2: "Not this again..."
MTGMalone is actually another content creator not Posty
@24:49 That's not your experience.. that's your opinion..
Wouldn't Mirror box/legend rule cheating let you take every copy of every praetor out of the deck?
You could totally find multiple copies of Sheoldred or Vorinclex for multiple ETB triggers. I think you can even find multiple Moms to get even more triggers.
I was sad when this wasn't in the poll but now I know why it wasn't there lol
man if only this was historic so we could see the original praetors too
Given how powerful some battle's ETBs are, I wonder if there's going to be a Battle Mom deck? If nothing else, doubling up Invasion of Ikoria to grab two creature with cool ETBs seems like it'd be ridiculously sweet.
They lost in the end because it wasn't them against one other player's forces, it was them versus every other player's forces.
I'd love to see a take on this in MTGO for 16 different praetors instead of just the 10 in standard.
Forgot other Vorinclex is way too old for Standard, wondered why just 10 in this lol.
MTGA's Historic format has 16, too.
Just found the channel and love the work. It reminds me a lot of the old ccg puzzles in scrye magazine.
Literally anything short of Supreme Verdict isn't answering a full board of Praetors. 😂😂😂
Absolutely love the idea of this deck !
Thanks!
It’s kinda funny to imagine Elesh Norn crewing bankbuster- like imagine you’re getting robbed and it’s her in a car lmao
Realmbreaker is what The World Tree should have been. I’ve never gotten all the gods to enter the battlefield
Wizards since Kaldheim: "Oh no the Phyrexians are on the move! This could be the end of the multiverse!"
Wizards as of MoM: "LOL just kidding. The Phyrexians were declawed kittens all along and couldn't do anything, so everything the main characters did really was unnecessary."
I believe that opponent in game 2 conceded before the realmbreaker's ult because he already lost to it in game 1
Invasion Of Zendikar is my fav card in MoM for standard
Now we want the same in historic 😋
Scryfall search: "f:historic t:praetor"
It only brings the count from 10 to 16, it could be possible!
@miguel-swanson I'm pretty sure the only praetors missing from arena are the original five, and the strongest praetor of all....Ebon Praetor!
@@scrumpors8706 the original five are included in multiverse legends
@@Dsmky117 yes they're 16 in total
If i coudl, i would like twice in this video, such a great deck, holly magic!!!!
If you combine realmbreaker with maskwood nexus, you can summon what you want
I am currently 5-1 with my draft on arena. My win con is either milling with realmbreaker, or pulling Vorinclex, VOH.
On losing go-first coin flips: "I've gone 0 for 4 since playing this deck. That may not sound like a big deal, but when you're playing best of 1 it actually is."
YES. YES IT IS. Thank god someone prominent actually said it. I primarily play best of 1 as I'm a casual player with time constraints (while I'll play some more casual decks I'll build them and play them as well as possible), and the disparity in your chance to win between going first and second is huge, probably in the range of 15-20% (the last figure I saw was from a few years ago, but said the average winrate of a player going second in historic Bo1 was 43% - so 14% WL disparity).
Given that it seems to be one of their main game modes, it's pretty crazy that they haven't tried to balance it at all. The balance of "well, half the time you'll go first" doesn't exactly feel good when you lose multiple games to your opponent having one extra turn (often, they'll beat you either the turn before you would've stabilized, or the turn before you would've won yourself).
Note that Changelings also count as Praetors. I'm debating doing a Commander deck like this with all the praetors and several of the Changelings with maybe Morophon the Boundless as commander.
Just wait tell there’s 15 praetors in play from the tree
16****
Gix is a Praetor too.
@@Enja_Near comedy gold to have 15 huge praetors all with pretty good effects and then just gix sitting there in the background
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Now I'm picturing old man Gix lecturing the NP praetors "back in my daaaay"
Please do this again in Modern with every Praetor
Was that first game against Post Malone?
And the second
no, there is a Magic content creator name MTGMalone as well
would a realmbreaker packag be good in a villainous wealth deck?
I’d of loved if this was historic so there could of been 16 played
There are 16 Praetors on Arena
i built this too, i play omen hawker and tezert to ramp realbreaker, volcanic spite and into fire to filter praetors
wow, nice job this looks fun how about a modern one to add the last praetors in lol. I want 15.
Can't think of a single improvement for the deck. Wouldn't change a thing.
What about Seedcore for fixing?
I did this in a real game with a buddy and he straight up said it’s illegal and absolutely unfair… I love it haha.
Should make this a modern deck so that you can use the old preators
Ok so with the past couple of sets introducing Up the Beanstalk and Spelunking, I wonder if that ugrades the deck into possible relevance
Another fun deck brother Set. Sadly it is expensive on paper. 😢😢😢😢
I miss playing jank IRL. I once won a local game night with the jankiest hero of iroas deck that could turn 4 people. The gods were on my side that day, cause I nut drew twice in a row after managing to scrape my way to the finals. and the other guy basically only got to play lands. He said it was crazy awesome and everyone was happy cause I never won, always playing homebrew jank with no reguards to the metagame.
Now that im better at brewing and playing on arena it feels like everyones too salty to appreciate getting hit for 28 damage on turn 4.
Fable of the Mirror Realmbreaker.
I see praetor. I click like
What do you think of bicycle machines or bicycles? I enjoy recumbent when I feel not well...
Aw, someone else came up with my arcane bombardment+Chandra= infinite despair.
Seth taking peoples emotes way too seriously😂
#1 You are missing the other Vorinclex, #2 this deck would work even better when adapted to historic as you can add another version of each praetor.
How many wild cards did you spend on this deck?
I can't begin to imagine...
I never know what you say at the beginning “better known as sephradaday”
I even tried closed captions on and it says “South Florida”
"SaffronOlive". His handle.
I hope the cartoon thumbnails come back ❤️
Oh don't worry, they are still around :)
I wanna see him try this deck in historic, so he can use the OG 5 as well
I am reminded of the days of 5 color panharmonicon
I got two mom sheoldred etb triggers by copying it with the amonkhet battle and then transforming it
I want to see the other side of the Malone game now
The Knights one or the Ozolith one?
7:01 why the Jin not activate drawing you 7 and gaining life with Sheoldred?
there are three different jins, he has only 2
You are referring to the first printed Jin-Gitaxias, (Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur) which has flash and does what you remember.
There have been two new Jin's since then: Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant (Kamigawa Neon Dynasty), and Jin-Gitaxias (March of the Machines)
Even better with the urabrask that gives them all haste
The only way to play the GG and not seem like a jerk is if you're on the losing end, or you're responding to a GG from the other guy who's about to lose
But Seth, there are 11 praetors in standard!- said Gix
Oh I’m dumb. Monstrous Raider be gone
Hey, Seth. I think it's great that you are so worried about being respectful and all, you are such a sweet person, but I think when you do a Realmbreaker deck, put a bunch of Preators on the battlefield, on early access day, you are allowed to have some fun!
Flip them to have a bunch of busted sagas, do some durdly stuff, see how they will play out. This is your moment! If opp doesn't want to see all the fun stuff, they can just concede.
They are told by wotc to not concede or bm each other. They want people to not concede to show off the set. Seth knows the other person is streaming and it doesn't look great if that person has to sit there and be in a losing game forever
There are so many people running worldbreaker praetors in explorer
19:53 flesh has vigilance. You missed damage there
Kinda sad that Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider already rotated so you can't play the whole gang
Is there someone copying this channel? saw some asian guy with same channel name, glad my favorite bearded streamer is around. My table top mill deck came from you
You have pleased Wizards of the Coast
Dudes voice sounds like he's "TaLkInG LiKe tHiS"
does anyone know whether realmbreaker works with maskwood nexus lol?
Ya know if you think about it. Its kind of a flavor fail that realmbreaker doesnt get Praetors from any zone considering its supposed to smash through the blind eternities to go places it really shouldn't
Bro annihilated his wildcard collection
aren't there 15 praetors? 3 for each colour right?
As an old caretaker, I forget that "BM" now means "bad manners" and assume it's like a PG version of "BS" (bowel movemenf)
Look! Its the thing I want to do in Commander :D
Now I want the same video but in legacy and with Ebon and sanguine praetor instead of these fakers
Ok, now do literally ALL the phyrexian praetors in Historic. All 3 cycles, all muhfukkin 15, you can even throw Gix in there for fun.
Seth, is the good game emote in the room with us now?
Seth sounds like Lola from Big Mouth lol
realmbreaker and monument to perfection?
Since the Praetors are Phyrexian, why don't you run the Seedcore?
Also why is Jin's ability of reducing hand size not working when it's out?
Not the same Jin.
you're thinking of core augur
Was that first match against Posty?
Unfortunately not