To Kill A Football Team - SMU's Death Penalty
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- After a long, LONG, hiatus we're back talking about one of the most absurd, impactful, and devastating scandals in the history of college football, Southern Methodist University's Death Sentence.
Reuploaded because RUclips copyright makes me want to bang my head into a wall :)
0:00 INTRO
1:16 THE BEGINNINGS OF A SCANDAL
4:43 THE NCAA ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING
10:04 THE AFTERMATH
Sources -docs.google.com/document/d/1D... 
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Coming back to this story after SMU just finished the 2023 season in the AP Top 25, was in the AAC championship game, AND is now entering the ACC next year. Guess the turnaround is coming to fruition.
What a redemption arc!
Only took 30 years
Too bad the ACC won’t be around much longer
@@beavsfan1I was literally about to say basically making a lateral move.
The ACC is currently being dissolved as i'm writing and you're reading this!
The 30 for 30 Pony Exce$$ is an all time classic
"You had schools spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on players and only winning 3 games, now thats a definition of a loser"
The great Norm Hitzges with that genius line during the documentary
Now that’s Miami lol
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
This video almost touches on it but doesn’t but it’s an open secret in Texas. SMU was NOT more brazen or more stupid than any other Texas school (gold trans am anyone?) SMU was chosen by the NCAA to send a message to the southwestern conference. The NCAA couldn’t risk killing one of its biggest brands (Texas or A&M) so they came down on SMU as a warning.
you're fine choice of words wasn't lost on me.
SMU was scapegoated and continues to be scapegoated for the sins of what was once the SWC. Liberty in the Fiesta Bowl? Are you kidding? Dead last in strength of schedule. Ranked below SMU in the final poll! The hate still continues.
@@irmaveps4618the AP means nothing this time of year and hasn’t for the last 10 years.
How were they scapegoated when they had the Governor of Texas in their pocket? They received a warning should have quit
For proof of the scapegoat. Look no further than Eric Dickerson. He begged the NCAA investigators to let him interview with them. They refused. For reasons (Eric says) would implicate almost all of the SWC including Texas and Arkansas. It was all a croc of shit.
Trailblazers in recruiting strategy. They were doing NIL 40 years before the concept existed.
Didn’t Eric Dickerson say that when he went to the NFL he basically took a pay cut?
SMU won the 1982 Southwest Conference title thanks to an unbelievably terrible pass interference call vs Arkansas.
Great memory, Bill. We should’ve won that year. Woo pig sooie
@@patrickhurley240 "oops"
Dude, it was a horrible call but was that 4th down?? You are assuming they would not have moved the ball if not for that play......stop crying.
@@patrickhurley240NOOOO, typical cry baby shit. That was a horrible call ..no doubt. However you are assuming SMU would not have moved the ball if not for that play, when the play before they hit a beautiful fade pattern in your joke defense. STOP CRYING
If your going to cry come over and water 💧 my lawn.
NCAA: “You are banned from postseason play for the 1981-82 season for recruiting violations.”
SMU: “I’LL FUCKIN’ DO IT AGAIN!!!”
😆🤣😂
It was nice of Texas A & M to give Eric Dickerson a Trans Am to play for SMU. Lol What did they call the car? The Trans A & M! Would’ve been funnier if they got him a Mustang. 😂
SMU class of '80 here -- I went to one game the whole time I was in school. I probably would have gone to more games but they insisted on playing in Texas Stadium. If they had played on campus I'm sure I'd have cared more about the football team. The school definitely did pay recruits, but they weren't the only school doing it.
I had a professor in college that graduated around the same time you did. She said you could always tell who the football players were because of the flashy cars they drove.
Nobody stop this video until it's completely over.
😂😂😂
Glad to see SMU just won the American Athletic Conference and will become a Power 4 school next year by joining the ACC
acc IS BEING DISSOLVED.
@@gailjones9155no it’s not. The Pac12 is being dissolved buddy
@@Noles4life77 The ACC won't last much longer. As soon as the first school figures out how to get out of the ACC without it costing a gazillion dollars in penalties, then the ACC will collapse. Florida State, Clemson, Miami all want out. They see how much money the SEC schools get and they want that, but the ultimate goal is to find a home that pays Big Ten money.
@@Noles4life77fsu is leaving Clemson will follow suit
Acc is dead and it’s because they’re spineless
Fsu got screwed by its own conference, espn and the sec
@@anthonymelendez333 don’t blame the sec and espn. Blame Bobby Bowden for being a pussy and not joint the sec when they had the chance. He said himself that he was scared to join the sec and that winning a national championship would be impossible for Florida state. I wish Florida state would join the sec so that way we don’t have to hear their fans bitch anymore
I can't believe how young Dale Hansen was in that clip. It's awesome that he's been breaking stories for so long.
There's always been something about that bastard I don't like.
@@weirdbeard63seems like he was a big weasel
can't believe i didn't get recommended these two uploads
we're back boys
I was on the ‘80 - ‘83 SMU teams. The ‘82 team was the best.
A lot of guys on the team passed a lot of gas and it was due to the grain heavy diet we had
For perspective, the $20 given to a kid in 1980 is worth about $80 in 2023.
Even then I can't imagine $20 influencing anybody for such an important decision...
Wait, Craig James did WHAT?
Became a sub-mediocre broadcaster who got Mike Leach fired from Texas Tech.
We back in the power conferences now baby!
The ACC is about to implode so, not really
@@ByarsDesign see you in ten years :)
Are you dumb? @@ByarsDesign
@@rangersking6699lol in the Big 12?
Oddly enough, this was not the first time the NCAA used the "Death Penalty". It was the third time. It had been used a total of five times.
1. The University of Kentucky men's basketball team for the 1952-53 season.
2. The University of Southern Louisiana (Now University of Louisiana at Lafayette.) men's basketball program for the 1973-74 and 1974-75 seasons.
3. The topic of this video.
4. The men's soccer team at Morehouse College, a DII school, for the 2004 and 2005 seasons
5. The men's tennis team at MacMurray College, a D3 school for the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons (Program was permanently killed off from it. MacMurray College was closed for good in 2020)
Didn't Houston get the death penalty as well? I remember back in the day they couldn't even be on national TV.. during the time of Andre Ware and David Kingler, they were like banned from TV... Not even a highlight lol.. I remember just seeing these outrageous scores they used to put up but not a highlight lol
Kentucky's death penalty ended up being a short pause. They simply picked up where they left off in the mid 1950s.
@@manatarmsslaps Houston was on probation. Meaning scholarships were reduced, no bowl games, and no national television. Despite all that, the program was allowed to continue to keep playing. All of the programs I mentioned were forced to suspend operations for their penalties.
@@metalcatgaming7422 yeah I wasn't disputing difference in the schools you mentioned bs Houston. I simply couldn't remember if Houston had gotten the death penalty or not lol.. I was like in the 8th or 9th grade back when I first remember that about Houston hell, I didn't even know what the death penalty was when all this stuff came out about SMU. Hell, never heard of SMU back then . When that stuff happened with them I was even younger lol
UL Lafayette is actually now now as just the University of Luisiana
Just discovered your channel. Love it. Thank you for your work.
Glad to have you back (again)
I'm a Fresno State alumni. I love how when you talk about the WAC being the bottom of the bottom, you're 100% correct. And I like how you show SMU struggling against Fresno at Fresno. Great video!
Been binging your videos love your content
Almost 40 years later and they still haven't recovered.
They finally recovered a few years ago, they have been ranked almost every year the past 3 or 4 years, they're in the teens this season. But before that they hadn't been since this death penalty.
Why are so many recent comments on here? Well, I can see why because not only SMU finished in AP top 25 but also won the AAC championship so congrats on SMU and coach Rhett Lashlee. I’m glad to click on this video.
AAC
@@HimSb-vz6he I was going to edit that but I forgot to. lol. Thanks for the mistake
Because of the TV revenue that is involved in today's game its hard to imagine this happening again. Even a TV blackout like Auburn had in the early 90s seems unlikely.
Ole Miss in 1995 was the last team banned from TV. The NCAA now realizes it is unfair to penalize the teams who don't break the rules by blacking them out alongside the cheaters. The conferences instead hold a violator's TV revenue in escrow when it is given a postseason ban.
I think when lebron had a hummer in high school people just started accepting it
SMU stood for Slush Money Unlimited.
Yes! The ironic thing is that today what SMU did is nothing different than what anyone else is doing.
SMU was way ahead of it’s time when it came to NIL.
Except there’s no way the NCAA would have given the death penalty to Texas or A&M, Baylor, etc
@@Dr-Alexander-The-Great The one thing that those had that that SMU didn’t have was a competitive media market that was willing to rat them out to make their careers.
It was the Southwest Conference, not Southwestern. There is a Southwestern Athletic Conference, a FCS level Conference, made up of some pretty good HBCU schools. Also, since you recorded this video (which has been a good watch, having grown up in the SWC), SMU is, as of July 2024, going to be in the Atlantic Coast Conference. :) I'll keep an eye open for more of your work.
yeah in hindsight i realized i was just talking about the SWAC, thank you though hope you stick around!
Back in the day when graduating and going to the NFL meant taking a pay cut.
“no it was absolutely ficking not” 😂
Bro a 7-3 football game???? They were playing hockey out there.
Edit: The Vaudeville Villian instrumental is a sick choice 🔥🔥🔥
Different times, you could hit the QB way after he through it. Pass interference was not even close to the same thing as today, a lot more contact allowed from the defense to defenseless receivers. If you tried to do a spread style offense like today, your QB would be out for the game by halftime and half of your receivers would be in the hospital. The run game was a lot more effective and consistent because of this, so the clock would be running most of the game, which in turn caused games to be a lot shorter
Vikings raiders 3-0 game last weekend starting to get nervous over here 🤣
I sat in the stands and got a sunburn on the left side of my face and legs/arms just to watch my beloved Razorbacks lose 3-7 at home to Mississippi State in the year 2023.
After Pedo State NCAA should have been forced to issue apologies to all schools who got the death penalty.
How does SMU gst the DP, but not PENN STATE???
This is why.
@@user-bu7ko2or8e What is why? Money payments to players is worse than molesting children ....btw longer than the SMU scandal.
@@ms.felonystrutter2472Because Penn State is a brand, a huge one at that. The NCAA is blatantly corrupt, they’ll use the DP on lower schools to look good for the media but will completely ignore any problems if it’s a big name school, because money talks.
Starting a video about college football with Black Moth Super Rainbow is craaaazy
I know it's not really relevant here, but I think it's a crime that student athletes receive no compensation for playing football. It's a multi-billion dollar industry, which sells jerseys with player's names on them, their images and likeness in adverts and endless other revenue streams, yet the student athletes receive zero dollars. If they are lucky, they will leave with a degree, if they decide to stick it out the entire 4 years. But most leave for the NFL because they need money. These NCAA sports and colleges are just rife with these scandals and they most likely always will be. It's crazy amounts of money we're talking about, and the pressure to succeed is just as crazy. Thanks for this video. Excellent work.
Nice little “if you made it to the end of the video” Easter egg at the end there 😂👌
Blue Mountain State got it pretty bad too
10:27 amazing song choice
My band teacher in high school went to SMU during this time, and only got to do marching band 1 year before they got the death penalty. He told me.about how to not get cut the marching band would try to get into as many parades and do as many guest appearances as possible.
You barely squeezed in Craig James at the end of this video - how could you possibly leave out Eric Dickerson? He and Craig James were key to SMU's National Championship and also key to why SMU got the Death Penalty.
And now the NCAA is negotiating options for schools to pay student athletes…
"Hey lets just offer them money to come here"
SMU got the death penalty for paying players, yet Penn State didn't see anywhere near the same punishment for harboring and protecting a serial child molester... all the way up to the top of the university. Penn State should not have a football team, even today.
Completely different set of circumstances. The criminal case (Sandusky) has been tried; it's not like PSU and the community at large knew for years and years what was going on. If so, don't you think something would have happened sooner? As in a backlash?? It wasn't until 2011 until the facts came out, and after the investigation, the NCAA realized that there was no lack of institutional control and wound up dropping the sanctions. Because they didn't have a case, or PSU would still be in deep sh!t.
SMU continued to press the issue even when approached with "hey, don't do this no more!" It's not like the NCAA went to Penn State in 1999 and told them to keep Sandusky, now an ex coach, off campus. Big difference there.
I appreciate the use of the GTA 3 music 🤘
Why is Joe Swanson doing the narration.
SMU was just ahead of it’s time playing players 😂
SMU football program was NIL before NIL in the 80s
And the NCAA did nothing to Baylor or Penn State.
You have an amazing voice
Dope vid
It took almost a half second for me to realize that you used the GTA III theme in this video.
Is this Cody from alternate history hub? It has to be
That's what I'm thinking
How did Penn State “escape” their huge scandal with Sandusky??
They had a chance to stop and said they did stop. No way the NCAA was gonna let them get away with it
The NCAA let everyone else get away with it, even when they knew other schools were doing the same.
the 'woe is me, you picked on us" attitude is so tired. they had multiple, multiple warnings and their response was a finger & they continued.. zero sympathy here. but that's what people do now: break the law then cry foul for reason X.
Ind St v Mich St '79...I feel lucky to have seen the spectacle of the NCAA tourney then. Even Jim Nantz blows now👎🏻
lol the very last line…. CJK5H!! 😂
SMU is back now, it's been a long journey and a hard fought battle but the Mustangs are back. I always thought the NCAA was too hard on them by giving them the death penalty. No bowls and TV for a couple of years is enough.
The one thing u missed was other Texas schools were paying players as well
So was Notre Dame and other big schools.
"Absolutely F**cking not" had me Dying
THEY ARE NOW FREE!! WELCOLME TO THE ACC!!!!!!
Minor quibble? None of the teams you talked about were in the Southwestern Conference.
Dale Hansen dam near single-handedly sank SMU’s battleship
Good Video
Those old Arkansas unis are SICK
S.M.U.-No sympathy, self inflicted. Like sin, Just because everybody does it, it still don’t make it right! 🌺✝️🌺
How does Penn State still have a football program?
Now the NCAA is a dead letter...lmao
Alabama, Notre Dame and Miami have been paying players for years even during this time. I know for a fact Norte Dame, the guy down the street my junior year of high school went to ND and was driving a car his family could not afford and was a top recruit his senior year. just put 2+2 together
They were just ahead if their time by being so open about it.
SMU didn’t just all of a sudden invent the wheel!
Don Meredith, Eric Dickerson, Harvey Armstrong, Kyle Rote, Emmanuel Sanders, Raymond Berry, Forrest Gregg all went to SMU
Cole Beasley, Emmanuel Sanders, Courtland Sutton, Rashee Rice
"and the NIL might ensure that no one ever will"
Michigan "hold my beer"
That last sentence was spoken like a true fan of Texas Tech.
And now with NIL kids make millions. These kids wont ever see that kind of money again
Really gotta feel for Craig James.
Texas and Texas A&M were doing the same thing the only difference is SMU payed more to the players.
Pony Excess was the best 30 for 30 ESPN college football doc not named The U. I mean, both of the coaches who were behind it (one who actually was in the doc) are dead now! And now SMU has officially won their league finishing as a top 25 team and are worthy, in today's stupid realignment era, of being in a Power 4 conference. Time, it's circular.
Oh now they can pay em 😒💰
What'd he say about craig james?
Go Ponies! Let’s win the ACC!
Dude sounds kinda like patrick Warburton
I a lifer.....historian Cowboys fan in Philthy sawca team playing on America's Field, Texas Stadium and cool uniforms...hell they lined up in the Flex at times....so I rooted for them. Honestly, never followed them after being taken off tv. Watching this was educarional, but do this video with such disdain and NOT a video about Sandusky and Penn State? Examibe the book "Underneath The Tarnished Dome" svum bag Lou Holtz? What is the axe to grind?
looking back on this yeah it does come off as kind of rash, but completely agree this was just a standard scandal with some unfortunate unseen consequences in regards to the couple players it screwed, the penn state stuff was just straight up evil. have not read that though will give it a read
The sad thing is......
The same thing that got SMU the death penalty...
Is now totally legal!!!!!!
NIL
Well not totally. SMU was straight handing players money to play for them. That's not really what NIL is lol
@@kizitokatende412 When they are showing in public how much college players are getting paid(millions)..... pretty open whats happening...lol....
Not even trying to hide it
@@rodneywaugh8535 yea it's with sponsorship and advertisement deals... That's what Name Image and Likeness is. Not straight up handing cash to the players for nothing lmfao
@@rodneywaugh8535Yeah I never liked that they are getting paid to go to college, I get that the Universities make a tremendous amount of money for the games but it seemed wrong to me. There's plenty of time for that in the NFL years later. Call me old fashion but just my opinion.
@@frankrizzo4460So it’s right for the university but not the players 🤣
No mention of Eric Dickerson and what SMU did to keep him?
It makes no difference now since college pays players.
What's bad is they destroyed that program for the thing that everyone is allowed to do now.
it is strange, there is no mention of the narrator here and we do not know the name of the guy who says,"I want to get this channel up and running, again." Let yourself be known
The Mustangs were ahead of their time.
Arkansas got screwed by phantom pass interference call , never felt bad about SMU getting in trouble.
I think SMU has a lot of potential with NIL.
Don't forget - SMU's basketball team was violating all the same and the NCAA let them get away with those.
Eric Dickerson kept the Pontiac Trans Am the Texas Aggies bought for him. 🤣
SMU was the sacrifice for the NCAA because they were never gonna penalize their big brand schools. The NCAA knew the other Texas schools were doing the same thing, but willingly chose to punish SMU as it was the lowest on the totem pole in terms of brand recognition, so it wouldn’t be a big loss like an Oklahoma or Texas would be.
Craig James killed who???
So the school paid the players and that's what drove them to drugs. C'mon now that sounds like a stretch. It's unfortunate that they died but 2 players snitching on the school out of spite because they got injured warrants no sympathy or praise. Had they not gotten hurt I'm sure they wouldn't have said a word.
It doesn’t make sense that the ACC added SMU. Nobody in Dallas gives a rat’s ass about SMU unlike Texas A&M or Texas. It would be great if SMU won the ACC in football when they join.
Did you see the movie "Blue Chips"? That schitt was real. Instead of straight cash the schools were giving the families tangibles like jobs. Vehicles. Places to live. Do you really think schools wasn't doing things in the old days when it was hard to trace?
Ok... soooo as soon as i heard the first "F***" in the video.. i immediately stopped and hit the sub button... i can tell this video is gunne be good
Dude you’re about to explode
Why would Missouri do this?
They never recovered