Metroid Prime 2: Echoes TAS - Reverse Boss Order
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This is a Tool Assisted Speedrun of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.
The first TAS I ever made was Reverse Boss Order in 2020. That run wasn't very optimized and since it isn't even close to my today's standards I decided to redo the run with a completely new route!
The goal of this run is to beat the game while defeating the bosses in the reverse intended order, starting with Quadraxis. A boss is an enemy with a health bar. You must collect the item that the boss drops.
Boss Order
• Quadraxis
• Dark Samus 2
• Power Bomb Guardian
• Spider Guardian
• Chykka
• Grapple Guardian
• Alpha Blogg
• Boost Guardian
• Amorbis
• Dark Samus 1
• Jump Guardian
• Bomb Guardian
• Dark Alpha Splinter
• Emperor Ing
• Dark Samus 3/4
Dark Missile Trooper and Caretaker Drone are not included. DMT can only be beaten AFTER Bomb Guardian and Caretaker does not have a health bar. It's Impossible to beat the final Bosses before Quadraxis.
U-mos watching all of the Light of Aether be returned to the Luminoth like "Huh....neat"
29:07 Knowing what would happen if they fought this unholy speedrunning machine, the Bloggling decided to kill itself instead of Face reverse TAS Samus.
Man, some people have all the luck
This is honestly the most remarkable thing I've seen done in a Prime 2 TAS. Not only to see it done, but maximally optimized... kudos.
I just saw this and my jaw was dropped for pretty much the whole video
You deserve more views then this. The run is unbelievable. I can't even beat it normally. Props to you homie
Screw attack damaging bosses is such a hilarious oversight
Dark Samus: oh God... did I take her sanity too or something?
Between this game and Super, there's no shortages of RBO in the Metroid Series.
And boy do I love sequence breaking.
1:12:50 the run for the key here is actually insane
I imagine confused umos receiving the lights from aether without knowing wth is going on thenn seeing someone arriving with ing armor
He probably thinked some surviving luminoth warrior keept fighting and somehow won against the ing horde.
23:03
oh my god I'm going to die
What's crazy is metroid prime is still wanting to kill samus with her phazon suit
Why samus in morph ball doesn't take damage in some parts?
at 23:00 I'm entering a Cannon in the room Watch Station while the game thinks I'm in Central Area Transport West. Unloading Watch Station while being shot out of the Cannon allows me to keep the 'Cannon Ball' state, which has three distinct properties:
- Total invulnerability while in Morph Ball
- An aura around the Morph Ball that deals 500,000 damage per frame, which allows me to Insta-Kill some enemies, most noticeably the second phase of Chykka. This aura is also capable of activating certain doors that were previously locked (though it cannot unlock currently locked doors) without needing to use a weapon against them
- Allows Samus to boost, even if she doesn't already have Boost Ball (not Important for this run since I keep Boost Ball at the beginning of the game)
This is incredible. How come you have such low gravity after the chykka fight?
Entering the dark water when the fight starts (when shooting the targets of the cocoon) gives you a 'floaty' effect when jumping. You lose floaty when entering dark or normal water again or leave torvus. This glitch doesn't work in Japanese and trilogy version.
@@MaskedTAS amazing, i had no idea
How the screw attack works underwater (funny against alpha blogg)
Now this... I like this
Some of those boost jumps were absolutely spectacular. I’m still in awe 😮
0:00 - Is the impossibility of fighting Emperor Ing / DS 3&4 first due to the need for Dark Visor to load certain Sky Temple keys?
27:30 - Whoa, the Screw Attack can break through there / deactivate the barrier?
50:59 - What causes the water state to unload here (is it a different method than what happens at 43:10)?
1:01:55 - Does Samus' model not load in this cutscene because you're not meant to have the Dark Suit yet (or is this cutscene hard-coded to only display Varia Suit Samus)?
1:03:39 - Is that a hidden death animation for Jump Guardian (since you're not supposed to have light beam) or is that just the same one used from Warrior Ing?
1) yes, You need Dark Visor for the Keys and do get Dark Visor you need to defeat Chyyka. Also you beat the game after the Final bosses, so you can't defeat the previous ones.
2) Screw Attack activates the Dark Beam crystals. it also works with the crystals in the pirate base in Agon
3) yes, morphing the frame you enter a water box disables most of the water properties. it works in both dark- and normal water and is called the "Air Underwater" state in the Speedrun/Randomizer community.
4) this is a though one and I'm not sure whats the answer to this question since the model doesn't spawn sometimes when you have Varia Suit as well. I assume that the cutscene does only play properly when you have Both Varia and Power Beam active.
5) there is no death animation for Jump Guardian when being burnt, so the game despawns the main-model and uses the standard burning to death outline whenever you defeat an enemy with Light Beam
@@MaskedTAS thanks for the replies! Awesome TAS by the way.
Also, would it at all be possible to wallcrawl out of the DS 3/4 fight back to the light portal as a proof of concept or does the game put you in a state that is impossible to change back from?
And as for the cutscene - is it maybe position based on where Samus enters the cutscene trigger?
@@ctrlaltdestroy91 Thank you :)
The portal in Dark Samus' room is not active and there is no way to get oob during the fight.
@@MaskedTAS Does the blue wall created in the fight prevent using the Sky Temple Gateway secret world?
@@ctrlaltdestroy91 yes
14:12 LOL XD
I love it
1:16:06 Two-Mos!
The game seems to have no idea what's going on. You don't even have the energy transfer module but it acts like you do. I assume because it's impossible under normal play to even get to the templates without it, so it never actually checks to make sure you have it. I'm surprised the bomb guardian has an animation for being killed by a power bomb.
The energy transfer module is the most useless pickup in the game. It's a filler item which does nothing, it doesn't even give you an extra percentage for your item counter.
@@MaskedTAS Yeah...I see that now. As far as the game's actual code that is. Lore-wise it keeps the Ing from possessing you, and enables you to handle the energy from the controllers. Samus's suit isn't supposed to be able to do that without the module. But that's just the lore...in the code they didn't bother to make the module actually do anything.
I think it's only an anti-matter of time now. When it'll be echoed that Prime 2 Resemblance is on its Sacred Path to the switch, you will easily quadraxuple your dark visitors!
After all, we all live in a Grand -Wind-- echo-chamber.
When the time comes, meet me at this Assembly Site, since we don't have a Gathering Hall.
What are you, an AGDQ donation message?
I sneezed then suddenly Quadraxis
01:27:35 And…… TIMEEEE
1:29:11 can u use that teleporter throughout the game?
Sadly no, even if you make it up there it doesn't teleport you
@@MaskedTAS wait you tried?
@@Exton_Z1 yeah, its known for years. I started running this game in 2011, and it was already known back then
1:13:48 well that was close
How do you enter the state where you take no damage in Morph Ball mode?
at 23:00 I'm entering a Cannon in the room Watch Station while the game thinks I'm in Central Area Transport West. It's the main reason I do all the complicated stuff the 30 seconds prior
1:28:08 can never get over her face there. Lol
Amazing uno reverse card moment xD
What's with the dislikes
1:15:29 So the unknown item was completely useless... 🥲
How did you manage to screw attack Emperor Ing and dark samus?
Screw attacking both bosses only works on the GameCube versions. It's a bit precise, especially for emperor ing
@@MaskedTAS one more question, could you make a video on how you got to quadraxis so fast?
@@AscendedHaven discord.gg/tjSDqV2Y8s
If you have Speedrun related questions, you should ask in the echoes Speedrun Discord. It's easier to communicate there
Man i didn't realise just how powerful the light beam is.
Literally all the bosses you’re going to face are weak against it
@@samushunter242dark samus have resistance against light beam also the caretaker robot
@@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic yeah, one thing that the game doesn't tell you is that dark Samus isn't a darkling, so she take extra damage from dark beam
Forgot to mention that I was talking about darklings and not all bosses as a whole
Killing the final bosses with two screw attacks…
I tried it but never got it to work (im a caveman compared to this guy)
What was going on from 36:28 to 37:11?
I pause buffer to make the next room load slower. if Torvus temple is loaded, there is a barrier in front of the door and by making it load later I can clip through the barrier by using screw attack
@@MaskedTAS sounds like a very cool trick I wonder who found it
@@MrMiguel211 just some random guy idk
@@MrMiguel211 it was me
@@MaskedTASyo i just want to say thank you for explaining all questions about the speedrun
I didn't know this was possible
First
This would still be an any% run even if the bosses are backwards. You should technically be at emperor ing and then waltz on to dark samus 3. This run would be like 20 mins at best