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THIS DRAMA DESTROYED!!! A FREINDSHIP TECTONE MTASH
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- #ZZZ #ZenlessZoneZero #genshinimpact #starrail #hsr #genshinimpact #wutheringwaves #tectone #mtashed
This video is a summary of the Tectone and Mtash drama that started because of an opinion on Zenless Zone Zero first and escalated and got personal
#ZZZ #ZenlessZoneZero #genshinimpact #starrail #hsr #genshinimpact #wutheringwaves #tectone #mtashed
PLZ DO NOT SEND HATE to the creators plz be respectful comment whatever you want but plz be civil about it I love all 3 of these creators it's unfortunate what has happened
Tectone sucks such a disingenuous animal…
Bro forgot to pin his comment.
I think Mtashed hates being made fun of and is really sensitive about it. Tectone does it often and Mtashed finally boiled over. Mtashed has been going through an identity crisis and anything that puts him in a box seems to break him down mentally. Tectone appears not to care when he upsets people. Tectone at times acts as if his opinion is the only one that matters and is reaffirmed by him being the largest creator. When he acts like that he seems like a very mean individual who lacks empathy. Mtashed has a hero complex but knew if he was gonna come at Tectone, the biggest creator in the space, he was going to need back up from someone who shared his opinions on Tectone's actions. Mtashed did not count on his back up not wanting the smoke. Hex decided the situation was not worth losing a friendship or starting a war. I believe Tectone is going through something in his private life. We have seen him like this before and only time will tell if we the audience will find out what that private matter in his life is.
@raikaigai7827 Mtashed should just quit streaming if he gets this stressed from pointless drama. He cried a lot when he did destiny but he's been gradually getting worse ngl.
@@raikaigai7827 My man this whole thing was between Tectone and Hex, it had nothing to do with Mtash, until he decided to butt in.
zzz just released a pvp version not a week into its initial release.
DEVS LISTENED.
Underrated comment 😂
Love how hoyo games cause ccs to have drama it’s like some magic to keep ccs away from criticizing hoyo games.
Wait there's PVP now? 😳🤯
😂😂😂
@@zacziggarot I think OP is talking about the CC drama being the pvp aspect.
I really can’t believe Tectone thinks his "Mtashed quit again" videos are having Mtasheds back. When Mtashed said he DMed Tectone to make him stop reacting to his content and title it as "Mtashed quit again" that really showed me how Tectone feels about other peoples opinions. The dude just doesn’t care.
Tbh I occasionally watched Tectone but after ZZZ released, I already felt that I couldn’t deal with someone like Tectone irl. In the agruments he also always tries to invalidate his opponents opinion by trying to focus on one hyperbole or them twisting their words. Making people admit they are wrong in one thing and then making it look like they are wrong with their whole argument.
He knows exactly what he is doing and his reaction to Mtashed was kind of over the top compared to his usual behaviour. And no Mtashed did not come after his friends, because that would be the only reason for Tectone to be as emotional as he was, as he has already said. So it really makes me think, maybe Tectone wanted to get rid of Mtashed after all these years, because he now has more "friends" in the Gacha space than just Mtashed.
id say the person who started everything would be the one who wants to get rid of someone
I think they forgot that clickbait actually works negatively on the internet. For creators, it helps them, but for the internet, it's going to send out weirdos on a rampage. They forgot that they are on the internet. Also, I personally think Tectone is way more articulated with the way he delivers his points, so it's very much hard to argue against him. These creators are not used to being in these situations. Tectone has been living under this stressful environment for years now, so of course he can defend himself better online. But our online life can never mimic our real life 100%. So yeah, I think this whole situation was just very uncomfortable and the fact that Twitch was so entertained by this is so fucking wrong to me. These two were actual friends, that the internet ruined. It's just sad really
But he also said in the debate that he baited tectone into reacting!
There's really a recent trend happening right now. Mtashed, Hex, Gacha Smack... they've had difficulty managing Tectone recently. I know things are "good now" between Hex/Gacha Smack and Tectone, but they're also his newer friends. Mtashed has been having nothing but patience for Tectone for years. I've seen him consistently try to put his friendship with Tectone above views repeatedly since their initial beef. I don't know if Tectone is going through something or what because even his streams have been intolerable lately. As an off-and-on viewer over the last few years, I've seen Tectone go from an entertaining nice guy to an insufferable ranter. He's adopted this victim mentality that I personally would never want to deal with if I had a friend like him. I grew up with a dad with a very similar personality and he and I barely talk. It's just impossible to get any point across because he thinks the world is out to get him. What I don't understand is why Tectone doesn't see that all these people, opinions on these stupid gacha games, are just trying their best to be his genuine friend. They're good people trying to be good people. And somehow he still has to beef with them.
well fyi just few years back, every cc/gacha communities were against him to the point that he was contemplating suicide so that was make him wat he is today?
@@minhtinh1211That's a reason for his behavior but it's not an excuse for it.
Common denominator
@@minhtinh1211 yet why is everyone against him in the first place? because he goes around pissing everyone off. this is not something he becomes because of his environment, he created this toxic environment which took over his life. his persona took over his reality.
I don't think "Good now" is right word to say it. More like temporary peace treaty; eventually Tectone will come up and cause conflict within the community.
If Enviosity is a mint picker then Tectone is a drama picker
ngl at least u mind ur own business when mintpicking. Drama pickers are just making themselves look pathetic for being loud when involved in trivial matters
Yeah... His ego has become so huge that he can't hear any valid criticism for his videos and he calls them all stupid, while also criticising everyone. He even deletes the comments on his videos that he can't handle. 😐 I don't hate him but...yeah he is going on a wrong path...
@@ehe_.-. What do you exactly know about whats a wrong or right path? he is literally THE MOST viewed gacha gamer in the world despite the bans from multiple gacha games. Means he must be doing a thing or two right. Yall have massive ego for thinking yall can guide him or whatever tf you're even trying to do. Loud and obnoxious =/= egoistic evil person. Fucking hell yall are insufferable
@@dioxide39the mint pickers couldn't stay out of his marriage 😅
@@dioxide39he successful off of drama so ig he doing something right
Hex freaking ADMITTED herself she was really frustrated with Tectone, wrote a 1k word essay to him, but Tectone and even her in chat acted like nothing bad happened between them and that Mtash is stupid for thinking Tectone was bullying her, which he was RIGHT about.
Pretty obvious how that "feud" between Hex and Tectone was scripted and bullshit just to get exposure.
Then she two-faces and makes a whole video about it and basically supports Tectone through the whole thing. The Stockholm Syndrome worked wonders.
@Carnaj90
It wasn't Stockholm syndrome. It was literally snake sellout behavior. She feels she's nothing without Tectone, and he's her sugar daddy. So, she chose to backtrack everything, and even be his own personal attack dog to Mtashed, while Tectone sits back and laughs while farming the drama that she was barking at Mtashed for him over.
Tectone has a successful army of followers because he IS the bully. They watch him because they WANT to see him bully other small streamers and light fires. They enjoy that shit
It's sickening but it is the sad truth, the tectone army just enjoys seeing people getting bullied.
The way tectone was speaking to hex in the first clip, then hex proceeded to fold and ended up ganging up on mtashed with tectone, gave me massive abusive relationship vibes.
I actually think mtashed was correct in labelling that as "stockholm syndrome" because that first clip was a clear display of emotional manipulation imo.
YES - I was married to a man like him, my life was hell until I left. In hindsight, I feel terrible for his ex wife, and it gives more context to that clip of him yelling at her and trash talking her in the car.
@@AspienWaifuI understand your point but I cant really comment on that incident because i dont know what went down with their marriage, the way he treated hex doesnt make his case any better though.
in this case i don't feel bad for hex though, as she basically snaked mtashed.
Ive been a fan of tectone for a while but the way he spoke to hex, gaslighting her and saying "you're being emotional" was seriously gross to watch
Shes a wolf in sheeps clothing. She was coping in mtashs stream until she freaked out and then turned herself into a victim.
It was not manipulation at all, tectone was rightz the girl was constantly on about being in validated when she is not? Tectone is just a loud duck about things sometimes but you know who its coming from? Why is she acting so sensitive? Its her making it weird. Id be able to have that conversation with him now problem.
@@AspienWaifuThe more context would be he only found out she cheated on him and then she tried to ruin all his personal relationships trying to frame him as a cheater.
All this boils down to Tectone doesn’t understand how opinions work, or at least he pretends he doesn’t understand how opinions work. Being right is all that matters.
So mtashed is correct then ? 😂
did mtashed not say tectone wouldnt join the call because he knew mtashed would win?
@@Siennamerdein I think It was tectones fault you cant call everyone is dumb or most are dumb if they dont think like me and then expect others to dont get offended yea I get he is an dick and bla bla bla Asmon is dick as well but he is not a jerk
@@dav2882 both are in the wrong for me . Tectone with his friend arguing during livestream is wrong especially in public . We don't know it's a debate or bullying .This made ppl confused including mtashed. Mtashed on the other hand calling hex a snake and testing friendship like dude he doesn't have good intentions right from the start.
@@partyanimals9026 the gaslightning from Tectone during the talk with hexjuice was insane though, i felt like it was impossible that he didn't do it on purpose to make hexjuice mad and emotional. It was painful to watch so i get why mtashed went at tectone, hexjuice probably didn't realize that Tectone was doing it on purpose and that he was just that dumb to understand how she felt. He was constantly putting words into her mouth that she didn't say to look better in front of a crowd.. but from looking at the chat that day a lot of people thought Tectone was being a dick. I think i felt just as mad as mtashed after watching him talk with hexjuice so i understand how he blew up in Tectones face, that is probably also why mtashed felt so bad when hexjuice took tectones side after being treated that way at the end of the stream he felt completely broken almost to tears like he was betrayed for standing up to someone being treated unfairly. But the next stream he looked way better and didn't bring it up again so he probably also thought it was nice to air out his frustration and even though he felt bad at the end of the last stream, he feels better now.
Tectone operates in a manner where one is either aligned with him or positioned against him. Those who oppose him find themselves subjected to intense scrutiny of their every statement, often facing misrepresentation of their arguments. He exhibits a distinct lack of empathy, viewing situations in stark terms of right and wrong. Confronted with dissenting viewpoints, Tectone does not attempt to comprehend alternative perspectives. Instead, he tirelessly seeks to "strawman" arguments; by exposing flaws in opposing views through probing questions and attempting to highlight inconsistencies until he can smirk and declare victory in the "debate".
This distinct lack of empathy was highlighted in Dr.K's video back when Tectone consulted with him. It's titled "Why People Call You Passive Aggressive... ft. Tectone".
Bro, this does this sound so chatgpted
by distinct lack of empathy you mean contingent or contextual, also just say he's remarkable venge filled, what if someone just blanket said you lack empathy? I agree he's extremely hostile to certain people, but not only was that barely addressed, mtash himself has admitted to bullying people in the past, not only that he strawmanned just as much.
you described it very well. that is why i also get absolutely crazy when i look in his comment section because he pulls in a special audience that always is at war with everything and where there is no moderation so they can live out their hate. i still remember a few months ago i said sth like i personally do not like the male characters designs in wuwa, but i am happy the game is solid and that many people enjoy it and that it is only my opinion. i had 15 comments within an hour about what a hoyoverse stan i am and i should go back to my groomer game and continue grooming kids and so on. i know this kind of audience must bring a lot of money, but i would not throw away my whole integrity to jump on another hate train every few months and start a new crusade against my enemies
@@pfeilinger4463 Man your point about his comment sections are spot on and its WAY worse in his clip channels that always make him look good or right in situations that are clearly debatable. I'm a little amazed by how ppl don't realize just how much ppl glaze him in his comment sections to not think they are bots/npcs. Point is tectone while he may or may not be a POS, he certainly breeds an incredibly toxic community with the way he goes about his opinions. Even if he says something sarcastically, his audience will take it srsly even if later mentions that its not a big deal and god knows if someone he considers a "friend" in the CC space has a take he disagree with, they shit talk them to no end and call them traitors and say shit like, "for all tectone did for you" shit is just astounding. I can assure you that almost every one of tectone's "friends" simply want to avoid the wrath of his community, but nvr want to admit it. Its insanely obvious with pokke and hex. This is just so weird to look at how every friendship in the hoyo CC gacha space is always on eggshells if it involves tectone.
My man, it's a debate over a video game. Emotions and empathy should not be involved. Also it's not that serious bro. Hex even said they talked privately after and that it's all good.
Hex is so weird for turning on Mtashed like that. Dude was defending you and you're so cucked to Tectone you team up with him against Michael.
Mtashed didnt handle himself perfectly but he is a much better person than those two.
Yep, Mtashed is such a great person for forcing his views and opinions onto Hex and saying she has Stockholm syndrome over an argument about a game with a friend, then calling her a snake when she didnt want Mtashed to use her for his agenda...
@@kdawgtb calling it a Stockholm syndrome friendship wasn't cool on Michael's part but he was being ganged up on 2v1 and said something he regretted.
Hex relies too much on tectone and the access and views he gives content creators that she has to tread a certain line with him. So do a lot of smaller content creators. Mtashted is one of the few that can actually stand up to Tectone and his asshole behavior.
@Sable813 So you're going to assume things and force your view and opinions onto Hex as well? She's friends with Tectone, you're acting like 1 heated argument means Tectone is a bad friend and that Hex is a victim while at the same time acting like she's a gold digger using Tectone for views and money and she's unable to speak up against him when the entire situation is about her disagreeing with him... Also, turning on Tectone would give her more views and money and boost her career in the gachaspace.
Hex said she didn't want to be used as a pawn by either of them, and told Mtashed to stop, and he blew up. But you still want to act like Tectone is the bad guy here for being an "asshole" when many people come out and say Tectones a good person, even in the middle of Atsu drama where it would boost their careers to turn on him.
Watch Hexjuices video on this topic, it'll help you a lot.
Hexjuice owes tectone basically everything at this point. No shit shes gonna pick his side no matter what.
@Axel_Kei Except for when she disagrees and argues with Tectone, which happens often. But yeah, she's totally a victim who can't argue or disagree with Tectone(despite her literally arguing and disagreeing with Tectone in this drama), and she has Stockholm syndrome, but she's also a gold digger and a snake because she doesn't want to be used as a pawn by Mtashed.
Tectone just be tryna win arguments , not even listening to what theyre saying
Also, loves drama way too much, will easily hurt his "friends" for more views/money in a heartbeat.
anyone not his boss is not his friend lol he won't do it to anyone he can't win against like mizkif or asmon/esfand but everyone els is fair go for this overgrown man child
Baldy head’s definitely gotten too big, or at least he’s overplaying his obnoxiousness.
I get tec is going back and forth between being objective and being a troll, but the problem is people can’t differentiate when he’s being serious and trolling anymore from how much he’s overplaying his obnoxiousness.
trying to be the good guy and also the heel at the same time is just making him the villain, and if that’s what he wants to farm money then sure, but it’s destroying his ‘friendly’ reputation, which is a shame because tec seems like a great guy irl
the fuck are u talking about bro i can agree hes always tryna win arguments but he doesnt hurt his friends for views or money u just dont like him and are tryna talk shit mtashed tried to call tectone after admitting he hurt h im tectone didnt want to how can u say he did that for views when he didnt even want to talk to tashed and farm content, and as for hex tec and hex are good and solved it before mtashed even came and whitekhnighted
It's a debate, what do you expect ? He listened to her points but disagree with them. Also you do not speak for Hex Juice when she herself have said she was not hurt. You are just like Mtashed, wanting to speak on her behalf when she clearly state that she wants to be left out of this, claiming that he "hurt" her or "abuse" her. Typical hater that never listen to the convo
@@innovated435 Lilbro, she was on the verge of tears. She just clout chasing and got scared of him.
You are a child
Hexjuice defending Tectone after that argument is actually insane. I couldn’t be friends with someone like that. But I guess that’s why he seeks out smaller creators to “befriend” aka side with him.
He needs to build his army of yes men. Maybe atsu was right.
You hit the nail on the head
He just recruits eternally grateful people that he brought up
She didn’t defend Tectone she defended herself😭, you actually have to try to be this dumb….the hate for Tectone is so real it has people turning into idiots
You saying hexjuice defending tectone after that argument is actually insane is actually insane
Hex calling tectone a good arguer is sad, he isn't good. He just says dumb ass nonsense points and then is condescending, thats it just patronization as if hes right and thats his arguing.
tectone is terrible at arguing, but he enjoys it which gives him a huge advantage, most normal people don't like conflict/arguments and feel timid even when they know they are 100% right
Tec is good at circle talking and getting people caught up in their own words for a gotcha moment, which Hex isn't good at getting out of that trap hole so it makes it look like Tec is a good arguer.
Wrong this is because he keeps his composure and keeps cool and gives fair points and asks them to explain their points to help understand what they are saying so they can straighten things out and move on how do you not get this 🤦♂️
@@joshuasmith4643what he did is not circular talk at all. Circular talking never has a conclusion and is generally a “do this” “why” “because” “why” etc.
He didn’t circle talk, he asks people why they think what they do or asks for logic on it. While also throwing in dumb comments because content. Also burden of proof is usually on people making a claim and he’s just asking for the logic behind it
I kinda disagree for his other arguments he is actually fair to a degree. But for the one with Hex it felt really weird for him to neglect some of her points. Honestly he shit talks with his arguments mainly because for content.
It's actually sad to watch in real time mtashed reaction to the manipulation and gaslight of tectone, to actually click for him "this guy is a terrrible human", to be honest I used to give the benefit of the doubt a lot to tectone as well and feel like a lot of the criticism he gets is unjust, maybe that's what melt his brain.
Fr this feeling I'm getting now is not white-knighting but a way showing enough is enough of hearing someone trying to gaslight another one. Ngl I would be just as angry if someone is spouting BS to take control and getting away with it.
For real I always hated when ppl grouped mtashed and tectone together as a duo. Mtashed is a lot better of a person and not nearly as toxic as Tectone.
I was shocked at the realisation moment where Mtashed mentioned he realized how it felt to be on the other side of a Tectone drama.
Testing the friendship...hmmm
Mtashed is whiny... but that's about it. He plays the famous gacha games to earn and doesn't shy away from admitting that.
Tectone has always been problematic and drama-driven right from the beginning. Carrying that kind of reputation even before Genshin is telling. Througout the Atsu drama, they're both toxic. Tectone just happens to be the better ringleader.
Mtashed is the best at calling out tectones bullshit. It's pretty sad if he's not there to do that anymore. He was like that one padded wall in his echo chamber. It needs more of those. Unfortunate
heWAS really weird when the ATSU situation happen he was sideng with ATSU like rally weird
@@melisdart siding with him? Overall he was on Tectone's side and called out the things where Tectone was in the wrong or out of line. Called out his bs correctly
@@SignOne literally when atsu put the document he was the first comment in twitter WOOOW PROOF agains tectone holly like that too calling tectone but is like playing both sides he was trying to get in atsu side by saying DUDE this happend with envy maybe tectone is bad playing that narrative and also stay in tectone side like no dude i feel like he is just at is own agenda
He got fucked because he let Tectone move the goalpost over and over which he knew would happen then he just got tilted and vented with everything he had.
yeah Mtashed always was the true mature voice of reason pulling tectone back to the ground a little. Without him... ehh...
When you're the one who keeps being in center of the problems, it's probably because you're the problem.
This. Tec one mentioned drama follows him around not knowing he’s the ringmaster lol.
@@kokocute123
bingo
No it just comes with being one of the biggest ccs on the space hate will follow so im going to have to disagree
@@kokocute123He literally just said he didn’t like people hating on the game not even a day into release.
There's bigger creators than him that are not in drama as often as he is so this is just wrong. His size is a factor sure but it's also the way he chooses to express himself. Anyone who wants to claim he is not insanely disrespectful in any "argument" he has is straight up lying. Not saying he cant do that cause it for sure is entertaining but obviously it will paint a target on his back cause people just start disliking him@@BlockySlime
Im just amazed tectone still have friend. if i had this kind of friend irl, pretty sure we would punch each other already.
Let’s put on our thinking caps on why he still has friends irl🤔
Bro they're all friends with him just because he has clout, just like how hex started to defend tectone from mtashed lmao. Basically everyone just wanna leech off of him, just look at when someone who has the same if not more clout than tectone speak up against him like mtashed does well he doesn't care if they're friends anymore because what's there to gain? His subscribers count is higher, and sometimes when he really put efforts in to his content his viewer count is higher too, so what does tectone bring to that friendship other than being an obnoxious egotistical asshole that wants to be right all the time
He talked to dr K and explained he has a problem of hurting everyone around him (you can find the video on RUclips). So as you guessed nobody stick with him until he became famous and has built his army of yes men.
Tectone is the type of guy to say emotions have no place in a debate and then actively try to provoke you or upset you to try and get an emotional reaction and then point his finger and then say "LOL youre being emotional tho" with his whole chat yesmanning him
He really love twisting other people's words huh......
Tectone was so obviously manipulative it’s gross.
What about Mtashed though? Bro tried to use Hex as a shield to attack Tech, then got flabbergasted when Hex admitted she didnt want him to do any of this.
@@datboiashy2957 because Hex was in on it, Tectone gives smaller content creators exposure through scripted drama.
YES. THANK YOU.
@@datboiashy2957no he didn't. He watched that video, and realized what Tectone does and how he talks to people, and put that into his own experiences. He used his conversation with Hex, which was on full display and was public, sure. But he never tried to use Hex as a shield to hide behind. That was all the viewers' doing saying that that's what it was.
@@datboiashy2957bro you need to go to school to understand what a manipulator is 😂
Tectones chat is just horrid, and his god complex is just mental. Hex is just 180 to get on tectones good side.
Tectone is not listening to mtashed at all he thinks his opinion should be the only thing that is valid....He turned into a thing that he hates a mintpicker.
@@arch391he should be the only mf who gets praised on gacha community....
can you even listen to mtashed when all he did was trashing tectone and calling his friend a Stockholm syndrome and a snake? that was weird AF (mtashed already in the wrong when he insulted hex months ago and had to apologize for it because he got torched by his community , so we know he does not like her)
i don't see tectone going after mtashed friends or insulting him non stop in their debate or in his 3 hour trash talk about tectone...
@@Wolfyyy Yes man spotted.
@@Towhomitmayconcern9293 Yea waow. Such a yes man for stating what happened in the video. That's crazy man.
@@Wolfyyy I don't also see Mtashed trashing on his own friends as own content, and also can you believe that people can change once they apologize for mistakes they made? Crazy I know.
I usually like Tectone but lately he’s trying to censor the internet & saying every opinion except his is wrong. It’s 100% ok to dislike ZZZ or any game, whether u play 30hr or 30min. Hex saying “now I’m playing longer so my opinion will matter” made me sick. Like.. girl if u can’t stand up for yrslf, pls log off bc u set women back in history by invalidating yr opinions & seeking approval of a man as he calls u emotional & not very bright🙄
That’s not his point tho? He doesn’t explain it that well here I’ll give you that. His main point is that content creators should make their criticisms air tight by seeing everything in the game cause the internet rips every opinion to shreds. He did not explain it well at all and the out of left field cause woman versus man stuff was wild
This man is a major narcissist. I would almost go as far to say he has some type of delusion of grandeur as he thinks his takes are the better than anyones elses and he is the sole reasons gacha gaming is where it is today. Totally ignoring that gacha games get more driving impact from the countries they have been released as those are primary markets ment to be pleased.
He's right and wrong.
He's right that you can't critique the full experience without having seen all of it, which is what he attempted to communicate but I don't believe came across clearly.
A first play session, while not conclusive of the full experience, is still valuable and valid.
If a player has bad first impressions, their initial experience is negative and that shouldn't be downplayed by others.
I think it's readonable to frame your experience as what it is, e.g. "my experience with the first x hours were not fun" and nobody should refute that.
We shouldn't be gatekeeping reviews and we should be able to differentiate between fact and opinion.
In most cases reviews aren't objective facts, they're reflections of experiences that are influenced by preferences and biases.
Nobody is wrong for having a differing opinion, games generally aren't objectively good or bad.
There is also the fact that Hex is very biased against hoyo games, which is in itself fine… everyone has the right to support/hate things… but given that context, you would always go in Hex’s streams with the assumption that you will not get an unbiased take from her. Which is kinda bad for a “variety” gacha streamer.
True he has a lot of good takes but sometimes is way off
Hard nope. My dude just glazing. Everything Mtashed said was valid. Hex even said some of the very same things to teccy in their fight beforehand
I think Tectone and Mtashed are both horrible people Mtashed was absolutely right about everything he was calling Tectone out for but he has also publicly bad mouthed Tectone for years trying to be a community white knight while Tectone didn’t want to do the same back to him and mtashed just pulls the whole emotional shut down manipulative card after he talks bad about others to avoid drama directed towards him they both are just bad people
I don't think everything Mtashed said was valid, there's really no person who is valid in this issue.
mtashed testing their friendship is valid? insane
@@edgelordkaneki8500its not testing friendship you dummy when in the first place they aren't actually "friends". If you knew from the start how tectone was being an asshole towards mtashed. Mtashed was trying to be civil with all of that sht, but tectone is just obnoxious and a good manipulator.
@@edgelordkaneki8500 for someone like tectone? probably.
Listen I'm gonna say it here, with Tectone he always LIKES to antagonize other people. That's how he's always been and I don't understand how people don't get it by now. After years of watching Tectone on and off since the release of GI we should've solved Tectone's attitude by now. Sure there are some instances I agree with Tectone's views but there are also instances I disagree with him.
And when you disagree? Ooooooh boy you're in for a world of annoyance and good luck with it lol. When Tectone doesn't agree with you he will do a video or talk in a stream that talks about people broadly and tells you "Oh but im not talking about you specifically (when he knows it's them lol) Im talking about in general :) " Basically he deflects which is the most annoying thing a "friend" can do to you.
EDIT PS: Actually Mike (mtashed) talks about this at 18:55 I havent reached this part of the video when I was writing this. So yes Mike knows how Tectone is by now.
Lastly to all the Gacha Content Creators that are in touch with him: The fact that you all talk to Tectone to this day and consider him a "Friend" is quite irksome to me if im being blunt. If I had a "friend" like this IRL I would ditch them immediately. To you people is it all about the $$$ because he's the biggest Gacha creator? But then you tolerate his behavior even if you're annoyed by him and put up with it. Where's the integrity? You're being a part of the problem by tolerating this behavior and constantly being touch with that guy. Pathetic.
EDIT: I haven't seen the back and forth at 29:00 but the amount of moving the goal post by John was honestly quite ridiculous. To add to that John always brought up these: "wanting to not do this call and mtashed wanted it", "He's only doing it for his "friends" these lines are example of what "appealing to the masses" looks like and a #1 red flag of being a narcissist and a manipulator. It's quite ironic that he thought of Atsu this when they're both cut from the same cloth. Quite hilarious tbh.
the main issue here is that Tectone never respects content creators when they request not to use their content in his reactions. Mtashed repeatedly has told him numerous times that it doesn't give a net positive to his channel. Maybe it does with smaller creators who just want to get a quick shoutout, but not with bigger ones like Mtashed.
This point I don't quite understand, which creators have explicitly asked not to be reacted to but Tectone reacted regardless? That I personally haven't seen.
Edit: I could be wrong but I don't recall MTashed ever really saying "don't react to my content" if that's what you mean. I may be out of the loop in that regard tho
@@P5Joker it's not just not about reactions but name dropping mostly and talking about other cc in his content when he has nothing to do with them. This was one of the main reasons why Envi had a rift with tectone years ago because he kept on talking about Envi in his streams.
As for mtashed, he's already expressed this repeatedly, which he told everyone during his rant stream and during the call he had with tec and hex. I do remember him saying something about it before even during the Atsu vs tectone feud as well.
The main issue here is consent.
@@wyttiger I see, regarding the MTashed part I can't really argue because I don't know much of the context so that's that.
For Envi tho, I'll say personally that's a bit sticky. To be transparent, regarding Tectone I'm somewhat neutral, he's very clearly an egotist and I probably wouldn't fw him irl, but he's entertaining to an extent so I'll watch the occasional video.
From what I know regarding Envi and him, it's moreso bitterness (?) that he brings him up, as to what I've seen Envi had leaked information regarding his divorce/attacked his at the time divorce-ready marriage, or something along those lines the details are foggy atm.
Personally I don't really care regardless but I can see the arguments from both sides. Tectone has his reasons to dislike Envi and _personally_ I don't really see what he does as being that bad, but likewise he doesn't need to do it regardless. And on the Envi side, I very much don't have the same type of mental fortitude he does, but if that's how he feels regarding all this I can't discredit him either.
Overall mb for the long winded essay, I do agree that Tectone really does talk way too much, especially about things that straight up doesn't need to be said, and I do wish he'd take a step back sometimes and reflect on some of the things he's accused others of, cuz he himself does some.of them as well.
@@P5Joker i understand. Anyway about the Envi thing, like I said in my previous comment, I was referring to how their rift started years back during the genshin years. And then what happened recently is a different thing about leaking info and such.
Me, I'm also neutral about all this tbh. Tec can be entertaining but I think he's the "trash tv" kind of entertaining. Like you know you shouldn't be watching this cuz it's a waste of time but you still do because you're curious kinda thing. If you get what I mean. 😅 I personally don't watch him that much anymore cuz like u said, he is a bit of an egoist and it gets a bit annoying now. I'd rather watch something else that has more meaning. Lol
About the original comment, this is coming from years of observation of his content.
@@wyttiger Gotcha. I wasn't really around during when Genshin started up so idk about any of that specifically and yeah I get what you mean. I initially found Tectone wayyyy back in the Arknight days (I didn't play but he was funny and I was like 15 :P) and then lost access to that Google account so I didn't really rediscover him until last year when he was in a DiddySauce video and I was like "Oh...I remember this dude. I swear he wasn't bald tho...💀"
But yeah same as you I pop in if there's something interesting but otherwise there's other stuff to watch ┐(´ー｀)┌
Hexjuice is the type of girl that has the toxic bf amd when you say bro you cant treat you gf like that. She turns and defends the bf
That was so shocking to watch, her 180° turn out of no where attack Mtashed while happily chatting away in his chat earlier.
Mtashed was not trying to defend her, though. She was trying to use her argument with Tectone an a stepping stone for his crusade against Tectone. Learn the difference.
@KazaiTV or mtashed's point, which hinged on her, was never right to begin with rip
Its not that it was a 180, its that the argument was started without even taking her own position into account
@@Paul_Frank She also had a valid point when she told Mtashed that if he has an issue with Tectone he should talk about that, instead of using her as an excuse to start a crusade against Tectone and shit talk him for 3 hours on stream. Whenever Hex, Iyo or Smack had arguments with Tectone, they settled things in DMs like adults, but Mtashed was farming drama content for 3 hours on stream, instead of trying to resolve things.
@@PersonaPrime The burning crusade xd Also I mean doesn't tectone's whole content is to react to others' videos and drama /create drama? how is that different from when mtashed does it? You can't say "why did mtashed do that 3 hour react" when tectone always do the same and farm drama for money
Mtashed wanted to hae a discussion with John, but all he got was tecotne
Ik it isn't funny but this made me laugh
@@osxar7188 *Dicktone
Wow, Mtashed is just calling out what he sees, and makes a statment off of that stating that this is how Tectone treats his "friends" and hex thinks Mtashed is just trying to white knight for her but thats not the case tashed just saw yet another instance of this dudes behavior towards ppl and was sick of it. Hex's situation is an example, not a goal of defending her.
These ppl are fuckin idiots why am I even commenting.
I was with tectone all this now, but now he just seem like another manipulator like atsu. He is Definitely trying to put words into MTASHED's mouth and I can understand how baffled MTASHED mustve been. It is True that with everyone of Tectone's "MTASHED quits.." video he is infact trying to paint a bad picture of Mtashed and sends a wrong information to the existing or newer audience. This makes it seem like he is a quitter because of Tectones False narrative which subconsiously makes the viewers think that MTASHED is actually bad. Even Tectone is not that good tbh. All in all, I have lost all respect for this weirdo .
he did the same w/ envi, envi is def terrible for bringing up his relationship but dude out here literally pushing the guy to the limits he says that tuonto is sensitive and can't take drama so he doesn't want him put in those situations but he is ok of doing that to envi (this was before envi brought up his ex-wife) this guy out here destroying ppl's careers. Now he's doing this to mtashed, he just don't give a fck doesn't listen to other's point of view bc he think he is always right it's so damn disgusting
People need to stop defending Tectone. People like Mtashed, Gatcha Smack, even HealthyGamerGG Dr. K tried to help him out yet the egg head is stubborn as he is a narcissist. The best way to reply to Tectone is to not pay him any attention and let him die on the hill on which he stands. I’m so tired of Tectone having the massive space on this platform and community and always plays the victim in drama situations, his community is part of the huge problem too.
He had nothing to lose anymore. Genshit fan failed to put him in his place back then. They almost successfully tho when he almost became irrelevant, not that i support that kind of situation tho. Where they harassed his ex wife, death threat etc. Now he has no wife, looks what he became. I think he is more tamer when he has his wife. Good job genshit fan for creating this monstrosity 😂
Hex is probably afraid of backlash if she goes against tectones community and knows its just monetarily more beneficial to be on tectones good side which is admittedly pretty sad. Anyone who has seen how tectone acts knows hes incredibly tone deaf and abrasive.
Mtash is a good dude but it seems hes reached the boiling point with tectone and his yes men/community which anyone could have seen from a mile away.
At the end of the day though the lesson is to just not care about other peoples opinions and their interactions with others and thats the flaw most content creators have. But drama farms views so theres that as well.
Tectone is gaslighting Hex so hard in that first video.
I honestly feel bad for her because I genuinely like her and discovered her on my own (not a Tectone fan at all). She’s getting hella gaslit
@@ninjasaki_7231 You feel bad for that Snake? Pretending to be all good in Mtashed chat, then when she realized she had to decide between the two she completely sucks up to Tectone and backstabs Mtashed calling him a "white knight" and saying "did you just assume my feelings" while making everything about her while in reality it was about Tectones behaviour especially now with all the negative opinion belittleing.
i absolutely despised when tectone kept saying :"you are being pretty emotional." he kept running circles around hex. Hex and mtashed are not able to voice their opinions correctly.
@@KazaiTV did u watch the part where she explains herself to mtashed? i think we found the mtashed viewer guys
@@sillyyoutuber7860 exactly. He keeps blitzing them with questions so they can't properly respond
Not that found of either Mtash or tectone. But seeing the information from this, I difinatly would side with Mtash. Tec is just an a.. s and he talks with such arogance. Tec reputation for terrible takes is no lie. Hex was kinda of pathetic.
I already see the clips of what he said about CJSkull. Which is why Tec is dogshit.
Tectone and hex both suck tbh mtashed is good CC imo.
@@adamroberts5584 yep, After some thought, the biggest thing in is drama, is Tec was being a preck. And Hex just took it. Why ? because the following Tec has probably? I recently saw some comments saying Mtash was diognosed with ADHD,. Alot of the things I recall him negativly, it now makes some sense. I can see why. As my previous comment, Mtash is the one whos correct here. Hes calling tec out for the preck he is. What he did to hex is not ok, even if she says she accepts it.. Its another one of Tecs bad takes and he thinks everyone else is wring, cause hes arrogant narcistist.
Why people can follow a turd like Tec, is why people can follow Idubbz, or Ninja. or Justin beaver.
@@nobletenshi7659 if MTash does have ADHD the not sticking to games does make sense I mean I for one cannot remain with a game for long especially once it becomes monotonous and there is no story HSR; WuWa I literally only do dailies/ weeklies then leave FFXIV I quit 4 months as there was nothing exceptionally new Destiny 2 I quit, returned, quit and now palying periodically so I understand if that is the case and making it a meme thing or calling him out on him us a dick move especially if you are correct in the diagnosis thing
man..hexjuice really scared of tectone...
Yep
35:42 "and lets start being men about this" coming from tectone is wild
Grown men fighting over a f2p waifu game
sounds like an average day in gatcha gaming.
sometimes i legitimately think that all the CC in gatcha gaming are in cahooths with each other since the games become drier than the sahara something so they make up random BS to keep getting views.
More like dictone mad people are criticizing zzz
they got money from it lol, they'll keep milking it
i think its a youtube/career/ public reputation thing atp
don't forget the husbandos :)
Tectone : Take L tone
Mtashed : 4 year anger
Hexjuice : Snake
Us : Stupid
There you go summarised the whole drama.
Edit : Watched entire thing.
Note : Might have missed something , dont take it for granted or take it with grain of salt.
Seems like tectone is narcissist in the way he invalidates others if they dont agree with him , I wouldn't want to be friend with him.
Hex is snake the way she turned 180 from being in chat to pretending not to know what she was doing and 2v1ing mtashed. I wouldn't want her as my significant other.
Mtashed is bad debater , prolly cuz of his ADHD . I found his way of sorting things with tectone in a public not good. I wouldn't want him to be my lawyer.
Interesting things that happened to me during video:
Felt very bad for hex when tectone literally invalidates saying something like " i think everything you have said just now is wrong(not the exact word but same like this)"
Lost all that sympathy for Hex when she went snake on mtashed, My gut literally had that bad wrenching feeling when i saw Hex go snake mode.
Felt funny how, many tectone's argument are all surface level and stupid , like how mtashed was trying to say that high school bullies bully while saying its something like meme and bro(tectone) literally interrupts by saying u just admitted it(mtashed quiting) being meme. Like bro wth, he was trying to show that it being meme doesnt make it right but u just pushed your argument saying he admitted it being meme as if something being meme makes it correct to do that. Personally, jokes are not funny if the person you are making fun of is not happy with it.
Mtashed , i still think he could have handled the situation in a better way in a private dm but i guess in a sense he wanted to expose tectone? Must have been frustrated with him for quite a long time.
That moment when mtashed felt shocked at the end and finally knew how bad things were going on. Kinda felt sad for him but again, he could have done this in private.
In overall
Mtashed was less wrong but debate was won by duo.( i said less wrong cuz both side is wrong )
Solidifies my view that, being right doesn't mean that you will win.
( I am afraid someone is gonna say austrian painter for that last quote , plz dont )
Imagine hex even has a husband and if u see ur wife treated the way tectone treated hex you would be pissed and feel disrespected for hex and urself. The real loser here is her husband tbh
Wow Hexjuice, can't believe she would defend a tectone after getting ridiculed and belittled in chat.
I love how this is exactly what happened with Tectone and Soul of an Artist. Only difference is that Mtashed is someone roughly the same weight class in subscriber and viewer count.
And Mtashed is still in the wrong. If you have a problem with someone, you talk about it in DMs and either solve it or decide to part ways. Using Hex's argument with Tectone as an excuse to drama farm for 3 hours on stream and shit talk Tectone is not what adults do, especially towards someone that is supposed to be your friend.
@PersonaPrime I do think what Mtashed did was somewhat wrong but his point is that Tectone has farmed off him consistently for the 'Mtashed quits again' meme several times. With that in mind, Mtash is trying to show Tectone how it feels to have it done to him because he has privately asked Tectone to stop posting those videos and Tectone did not stop doing it. It was an unfair ultimatum from Mtashed but I also can't blame him for eventually getting frustrated and just showing Tectone what it felt like and it actually infuriated Tectone so you gotta imagine how Mtashed felt after Tectone did a similar (albeit less extreme version) thing to him 3 times prior.
@PersonaPrime isn't that like thr problem of tectone. Drama farming for hours on his stream, that's his entire content for like months now. Instead of just going to dms or being adults, every fucking drama is just disaster after disaster.
@@Layonbedge Friends joke about each other all the time. Tectone has even recommended games to Mtashed like Diablo and wished for him to find a game that he truly enjoys, but Mtashed forces himself to play games he doesn't enjoy just for the content. That's why he is miserable. When you quit every game you try, then you are the problem, not the games. Also, Mtashed used Hex Juice as an excuse to go after Tectone on stream for hours. Dude is a 30+ year old father and acts like highschooler.
@@Layonbedge Go look at mtashed channel and ya see how many times hes made similar videos off tectone. Hes just crying how its okay for him to do it, but when tectone does it its wrong. mtashed has 0 legs to stand on in that issue.
Basically Tectone:
1. Your Opinions are Wrong if it does not align with mine.
2. If I shine a Spotlight to you, a measly small content creator and you disagree with me. I will go nuclear with you if you crossed Me.
3. Calling out others for GLighting and Cheery Picking but would result to the same tactic if I am losing an argument.
4. I do giveaways and support small creators so that excuse me for being a dick to others or said small creators.
5. I got your back but I will go ape sht on you if you disagree with me.
6. "I oWn A cOmPaNy sO yOuR tAkEs aRe YoUr WrOnG"
Wrong
@@alatus_knight found the dcktone meat rider.
@@alatus_knight spotted the meat rider. Or to borrow the words of your saint, "wHeRe Is ThE PrOoF hUH?" Bro you only saw may comment for 2-3 hrs and you wanted to review(give opinion) it? Then your dumb.
@@ShouheiSuzuki keep crying
True 💯
Dude I respect tectone so much but he is turning to this hypocrite and his ego is as fragile as a paper that he thinks he is the only right person ever. Lost all my respect dude
Hex, damn, she's too scared to be in the spotlight fr. She doesn't want any beef and cannot stand up for herself. Mtashed got instigated how Tectone "harrassed" Hex but Hex she don't want to own up and Mtashed got surprised. Grow some balls Hex and Mtased should just ignore Tectone their attitudes is just not compatible at all
Yeah... I'm afraid that Tectone's been like this for the longest time lol, nothing new here sadly. And I really dont see how Victim blaming Hex here does any good...? Why would you even tell her to grow balls lol, makes no sense. Its no surprise Hex doesnt want to get into drama, imagine all tectone fanboys going to harass her. She doesnt want that shit. Perfectly reasonable of her
I dunno how you have respect for him at all. This dude has always been proven time and time again how much he is an asshole.
Hex turned into a complete Snake it's crazy. I defended her calling out Tectones behavious, randomly saw Mtashed reacting to her getting shit on and then later her backstabbing.
I think i was more shocked than MTashed. That shit was surreal.
@@KazaiTV Hex action was understandable because her channel was built on "Tectone brand" which means her followers are Tectone followers. She wouldn't risk her career by going against tectone.
Man, when I remember tectone said he helps promoting smaller cc, does he literally tied them on his war chariot.
Exactly. Hex made me sick when she said she didn’t like the game but was “playing more so my opinion will matter.” Like girl what!? If u can’t stand up for yrslf, pls log off. You’re setting women back in history by invalidating yr own opinion & seeking approval from a male who’s calling u emotional 😂
So basically Tectone bullied hex so badly that she was so afraid of going against him and his army that she just joined his side against Mtashed.
You got it wrong she wasn’t on anyone’s side Mtashed just hates tectone he said it himself, He thought that Hex would join him on hating on tectone but guess what? friends can have disagreements with each other😧 and then he calls her a snake for not wanting to join on the hate train
Mtashed is the winner, he doesn't have Tectone on his life anymore. 👌
Tectone's chat in this whole situation is genuinely unbearably cringe, pure brainrot mindless fanboying and mysoginy for no good reason when Hex is just saying basic shit
why does she cling so much on what Tectone thinks. why does it matter?
@@foomiumperorosaurus8066 Because he is the biggest gacha streamer and can drag her up to the top or push her down, she is dependent on his opinion of her and so is everyone else so no "really" speaks up abt anything concerning him
@@Desticy She doesn't really have to go that far if I am speaking honestly. But that's her decision.
@@foomiumperorosaurus8066 Considering she had 20-30 viewers before tectone watched her, and now she has 600ish, thats like 90%+ viewers that are tectone fans. He can literally end her career by just talking bad about her, shes not self made like mtashed or brax who dont depend on tectones fanbase
@@foomiumperorosaurus8066if she clings to tectone why does tectone and her have arguments and debated on 3 different occasions and from my knowledge it ends with both of em staying friends and neither apologizing cause they both know they just had a different opinion on a waifu game.
So in summary: ZZZ releases, CC's play and some don't have good first impressions (hex included). Tectone accuses CC's of hate training if they disliked the game after playing a few hours and shared their opinions about it, and if you disagree with this opinion you are stupid (honestly a very obvious L take). Tec goes into Hex chat and she tells tec that she can't have an opinion because of what he said and that she won't be a 'yes' man for him on this one (highlighting the situation that he made for CC's). Hex and Tec then debate and while Hex was trying to make him understand the situation, he downplayed a serious situation for CC's, not realizing that his words carry weight. Tec is then a dick to his "friend" (weird friendship) (publicly), by highlighting totally bizarre reasons why she is supposedly "wrong" ("you being a woman makes people have sympathy for you") (like I'm just lost for words here). Ended stream with hex being "alright" (not really, and I wouldn't be either). Mtashed sees this debate and recognizes that tec does this a lot and Tash analyses it and highlights all the things tec does ( like straw mans, being a dick, etc.) while Hex was in Tash's chat (this is where I am just like wtf is hex doing?). Tash DMs Hex asking how she felt after that conversation, not to defend her but to use her as an example of what Tec is doing to other CC's. Hex says she felt shitty, but doesn't want tash to defend her. Mtashed said to her that he is going after tectone, not DEFENDING her (this is in the DM's). Tash then wants to bring this up to tec by DMing him and telling him to either talk in private or on stream (to supposedly see if he wants to do this for content or whatever), a (rightfully) forced situation for tec because he either has to admit that he was wrong to hex and other CC's (this would be the private call) or if he does this public he is then a drama content farmer using Hex as content for his stream that day (I'm pretty sure that people were not happy with what he did, because it went horribly wrong for him). Tec says he is not going to talk to mtashed publicly (then why not just talk to hex about it and apologize?). Mtashed says that he acknowledges the response and is like "ok tec thinks that he was right about the situation". Tec gets into heated debate with tash, not willing to admit that he is wrong (I have never seen that many straw mans in a debate before by Tec). Now the end of the debate tectone ropes in hex, and tashed said he doesn't want to talk to her, because he is debating tectone (rightfully so, because he stated to hex that he is not defending her). Regardless, tec adds hex to call and let's them talk (pivoting the issue in a losing debate). Mtashed is now forced to explain to her that he is NOT DEFENDING her but going after tec (IDK how many times Hex has been told this at this point, it really does seem like she is being either stupid or sucking up to tec) (basically a 2v1 at this point, heaven knows why). Tec manipulates the conversation which forces hex to answer a certain way, Hex falls for the obvious trap and throws Mtashed under the bus. Now people say that tec lost respect, and hex is a "snake" (honestly idk, 1-this is either true or 2- she was being really, really, really, stupid for not understanding the context (hard to believe) or 3-she was just dumb for falling for the obvious trap set up by tectone in the conversation (possibly true but I don't think so with the confidence she delivered on that answer).
My take: I think tectone had an L take and he watched Hex stream and used her as content for his stream. It didn't go well. Man didn't apologise, which could have solved the issue. I mean the evidence is in the amount of dislikes that video has? I also think that someone had to bring this up to tec so I respect Mtashed for doing it in the way that he did. Also, tec really needs to calm down about all of these straw mans, like holy shit there are some CC's that actually care about the content that they make. Not every CC is a villain my guy. Hex also needs to stop fueling everything, because every time it seems like she is the victim, and it's just kinda weird how she snaked on Mtashed (intentionally or unintentionally), I have no friggin clue, but I am staying away from that one. I am genuinely worried for this community if they believe this shit.
Edit: I checked for further context and tectone did apologize to hex in her chat (not sure where in the timeline). Also, I think that Mtashed was being kind of a dick to Tectone by giving him these ultimatums that he can't escape from, at the beginning. Even if it's only to prove a point, it's still a shitty thing to do to another person. So I don't fully agree with how he did it, but he had to be shown that he was a dick. The fact that Hex was in Mtashed chat is what a lot of people are glazing over. Like I'm still wondering like wtf was she doing there. PS. Please don't send hate anyone's way, these people are grown adults. I'm only sharing what I am observing as a viewer.
Thanks for the summary
@@migueltlg no worries
Well..hex grown her channel both yt and twitch from teccy's drama. livelihood is on the line maybe that's why she's siding with someone with power.
@@Jay-h1y I don't disagree with you there. She doesn't have the luxury to just fight against teccy like mtashed.
@@Jay-h1y i think it's just that you feel intimidated because of his big numbers. they can say that shit means nothing but lets be real his hivemind is always this crap and his response "just block them, dumb bitch" like no responsibilities no shame or guilt in him whatsoever and then when calling him out he huffs copium with his podcast and charity. not even give her a call to say sorry nah. imma just write it on chat, "pwease forgive me, im a dick. ehe (*/ω＼*)"
like this is getting tiredsome and the reason he keeps winning is because people fumble never been punched in the face in their life and make themselves look dumb enough to convince chat to side with him. shit is manipulative as fuck.
TECTONE is the only guy who laughed at u, made u a joke in front of his audience and then when confronted scream out loud, "I was DEFENDING u!".
R u talking about mtash cause I have never met the guy
@@GambaAJ Yes. Poor Mike, John is just too good in twisting fact.
In actuality, mtashed was right on a bunch of stuff, but he and tectone just didn't understand his point. He wasn't defending hex, he was using her situation as an example for tectones current and past relationships. They took it as white knighting. Mtasheds biggest mistake was not preparing his word the best he can and being too impulsive.
Can't blame him though. Everyone and their mother is just disregarding his opinion because he's "dopamine deprived".
That may or may not be true, but these socially inept content creators can't understand that there's a person on the other side of the screen, and at some point something's gotta give.
@@ethernet764 I defenetily felt like tectone practically disregarded what mtashed said and only heard the insults. And mtashed was too impulsive making it easy to disregard the mountain things being mentioned. Hex was just a pure L though. She added nothing besides confusion
Mtash needs more testosterones man, shit is sad to watch this man like a nerd that's lioe constantly being bully so hard.
Agreed
She didn't took it as white knighting. She was in his chat prior and thankful, chatting away.
She chose the hand that feeds her even if it ment stabbing Mtashed in his back like a little Snake she is.
Baldy is a narcissist, he pretty much said it himself this weekend. I never watch his stuff because he is insufferable, but I was curious about the beef between two creators I dont care for . The man literally said in his stream, "I am narcissist adjacent, but I cant be a full narcissist because narcissists are (g)ay, and I sleep with with women." He knows that he is, but he wont admit it because then he would have to take responsibility for all the relationships he's probably ruined in his life;
when there is common factor, you have to wonder if it is everyone else or him. Anyway, the man is rich, has a large following, and is surrounded by yes people -- so he will be fine -- I hope in the end it is worth it for him.
ngl tectone is wrong in this bro cant not undrastand other ppl point of vue smh if ppl dont like a game they dont like it you dont need to be playing for 30h before starting to like a game wtf
are u that slow? the premise is not that ppl need to play 30 hours on a game they dont like just to enjoy …the premise is that u CANNOT MAKE A FULL FAIR REVIEW ON A GAME WITHOUT PLAYING THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME…why is that so hard to understand?? if a game is not for u while playing for 2 hours etc then fine that is ur opinion and ur preference…but u cant just come on the net say the entire game is shit and havent even got passed the tutorial section of the game…that is braindead behavior
@@wolvesbane1748no bro, the game is mid and everyone knows it , and the game is not respecting people's time it is shiet
@@migueltlg and Honkai Star Rail is even worse
If after a few hours you don't like it cool it's not your thing but it wouldn't be an honest review. As CC's if you want to dog on the game give it the full attention to warrant your opinion as a review should
@@Goujikiits really zll the same garbage gambling scam
I warned frauds/fake gamers years ago but they wont listen
Tectone is giving "I should be the only mf getting praised in this community" vibes I seriously am feeling chills by how hypocritical tectone is "I should be the only mf that can have an opinion and validate ur opinion"
Yea, I think it's turning bad. Maybe Asmong lecture coming.
I hope. Tectone was the voice of reason. Now, he just is a voice.
Legit true, all of his drama wins are going to his head. Tectone is becoming what he mocks lol. Then again, he's always been super head strong. He's usually just happened to have a good take, now that he's had a bad take he's defending it in his usual manner.
@@letsrank9349 Bro really said "Tectone was the voice of reason"
When did Tectone become a white knight for gacha games.
Here is the Tectone hypocrisy: why going to a smaller CC like Hex and never call out for example Asmongold who his opinion of the game is 6/10 he said the game doesnt need more than 5-6 hours to play to give an opinion. Man if a friend tells you "i know a place were the food is amazing", you go there and smell like xit you are F out of there, why you have to stay and eat.
I agree. I think he makes friends in the space so they can just validate what he thinks and when they disagree is over for them. I cant say im right because the only situation I know of this happening is this one because I cant recall any time hexjuice has ever disagreed with tectone in a big way.
@@Aenahea agree
Was this the real Endgame of ZZZ
they said we need to get 20-30 + hours in the game for it to be exciting. apparently it was true, we just need to wait for 48 hours + for this endgame to happen.
@@nangirb1That's 2 whole triple A titles in length 😂
@@pravum3150 exactly
except farming artefuck,yes
literally 0 actual end game
@@dedcet634hey question hope you don’t mind but doesn’t always happens to like every gacha game at the start? For example genshin by only having the spiral abyss and Honkai star rail with memory of chaos?
Tectone really is just a prick and twists everything to fit what he is trying to portray, atp I think he just palys stupid on purpose and evades what everyone says
To be as cringey as possible, he's the Trump of the gacha scene. Outrageous claims, unfair arguments with goal post moving, and constantly tries to bait his opponents and manipulate them
23:31 Bro has not had Mtashed’s back for 3 years. He complaining about Mtashed taking shots at him when he literally does the same almost everyday
tectone even said mtashed is the meme so when tectone insulted the critics, he knew mtashed is auto grouped in. tectone was basically trash talking mtashed without naming him, which is slimy and disturbing af in mtashed's perspective.
like mtashed said, he could've just dm'd tectone to f off. but tectone's gaslighting and straw manning of hex was a perfect example to illustrate the message and mtashed should not apologize over it. using that footage is not white knighting, it's the actual footage that best explains what tectone is like and should be used whenever calling out tectone.
any CC would react to videos like that (e.g., coffeezilla, peguinz, etc.). It's the norm on RUclips, don't get why Hex did the same thing to mtashed as she complained tectone did to her. hex tried to frame it like mtashed was white knighting her when anyone would've used that video even if they didn't give a sht about her. they would help her if she needed it, but if she didn't they would still have to react to that video anyway.
@@Viewer13128 if you actually think that mtasheds rant was reasonable or justified you are insane. Mtasheds own viewers/fans see the „I quit“ thing as a meme. This „friendtesting“ on top of saying some serious bad things about his „friend“ tectone is really disgusting and really showed how much of a hypocrite mtashed is. Not saying i support how tectone treated hex or anything, he has some seriously bad character traits but Mtashed way of handling things was more than horrible
@@Adat102 to be very clear, mtashed did not do this in order to "friend test" like how tectone made it seem like (tectone is so good at such misleading guilt tripping reactions, he does it all the time. saw it against hex, saw it against mtashed. twists something said, take it out of timeline and context, change the whole original motive of the other person.). mtashed made a critique video on tectone because he's had enough of it again, and he only said he was curious to see if tectone will care more about their friendship or not AFTER (not once was friend test on his mind before/during). however, tectone made it sound like the entire thing was a "friendship test" which is again gaslighting by tectone, shifting the context to change the tone completely.
Also, tectone made it sound like you can't use that video because hex is his friend. that's another misdirection. if you notice, every youtuber reacts to these videos REGARDLESS of whether the victim is your friend. They see a perfect illustration of you actually demonstrating gaslighting and straw manning, so they react to it (e.g., channels like coffeezilla, moistkritical, asmongold, kavos, etc.). It is NOT because hex is his friend, that's just pure coincidence because tectone did the gaslighting and strawmanning on hex so perfectly. Do you think coffeezilla would see a perfect video and say "Oh, I can't react cause their friends". tectone again twisted it to make mtashed look like he chose a "hex + tectone friendship video". No way. The whole point is because tectone was exposed in that video, and every youtube channel reacts to that, not cause hex is a friend (that's coincidence, not requirement).
mtashed's perspective is he has had it with tectone and he wanted to tell him to "f off" but he didn't know how to approach it, then he saw the extreme gaslighting video with hex, which is the push he got to make that critique video (if you're curious why mtashed was confused how to tell him to "f off" it's because tectone insulted him without naming him, which mtashed says is a common thing tectone does by insulting you without naming you but placing you under his umbrella of people. so yea you'd be confused if you can even respond even though you had to eat all the insults.)
the main motive was NOT A FRIENDSHIP TEST like how tectone reframed it. mtashed said he wanted to see how tectone values their friendship AFTER making the video, not before. when mtashed made the video, it was to criticize tectone, not to test friendship. mtashed already felt it was not a good friendship when he made that video. being curious about how tectone reacts after that video is NOT RELATED TO HIS MOTIVE WHEN HE MADE THE VIDEO.
It's reasonable to be curious about that. Example: If I felt he's a bad friend, and I exposed him, I can then be curious if he actually valued my friendship, not that I have high expectations. but don't twist that to mean I did it in order to test friendship. It sounds ridiculous because it's gaslighting me. everyone knows I didn't do it to test friendship, I did it cause I had enough enough of him. nobody is chilling and suddenly does that to "friendship test". on the other hand, after exposing him, I can certainly be curious how he will respond with our friendship finally being on the line of it all. but tectone twisted what he said AFTER to make it look like the whole thing was a friendship test. No way. that's basically how tectone is using something mtashed said afterwards to gaslight again.
@@Viewer13128 ngl man you are arguing against nothing. Mtashed himself said that it was a TEST to see if tectone would choose the FRIENDSHIP over the Drama and do it privately. That is literally exactly what he said without tectone saying anything about it. It was 100% friendtesting and tectone didn’t gaslight anyone in to this bc it came directly from mtashed who by the way wants tectone to make his answer in private to him after staring the whole thing in public (completely ridiculous). I never said the WHOLE thing was friendship test but the test existed from mtasheds side and it was pretty ridiculous and disgusting to even say it like this. (You actually made a straw man argument lmao and argued against something I didn’t even say)
@@Adat102 if you and I agree that mtashed never made the public video as a "friendship test", then we agree on that. to clarify, I mean to say there is no test before/after. He can view it as a test, but that's his viewpoint/expression. This occurs for everyone as the natural progression and you can call it a test, but you didn't actually make a test. it's a repeat of "that's not what i meant" and proven by the fact that this stage occurs for everyone regardless. (always take the situation over the words because even in hex debate, she kept on having to explain "that's not what I meant").
EXAMPLE: if you conned your dad, you did not con him to test him, you conned him because you wanted that money. but after the fact, you anticipate "this is a test whether my dad will forgive me or disown me". Everyone knows this is your viewpoint, but at no point was any "father test" actually made by you. You're just calling the end result a test, but in reality this happens to everyone regardless, so nobody made any test (it's just your wording of it as a test).
Your dad can say "don't try to say this was a father test". You'd reply "that's not what i meant" and everyone knows that's not what you meant. you were simply anticipating your dad's reaction, and you called it a test. everyone knows you made no "father test" before/after. it's just your verbal expression.
You can be wrong and he may do neither, and simply call the police on you, or beat you. Regardless, if you are aware this is coming, you can say it out loud that this is going to test how your dad reacts. But you are in reality just waiting and guessing how your dad will respond. you phrased it like a test, but you didn't make any test, you're just anticipating.
EXAMPLE 2: suppose whenever your friend meets new people, he naturally makes fun of you to impress people. You guys are "technically" friends but finally you finally had enough. You make a long rant about your friend using examples of what he does to others and yourself. Nobody will fault you for this. Ofc you can use perfect examples of how he treats everyone, including his other friends. You should. We know your rant was not the friendship test.
But if you start a discussion afterwards with your other friends, you might say this is a test to see if he will remain friends even after you called him out. BUT you did not design any test, you are simply anticipating how he will react. No test is being conducted by you, rather you're only aware that the situation itself will naturally test him. all we do is anticipate how someone is going to react, we didn't actually make any further friendship test afterwards.
What I'm saying is everyone is anticipating and guessing with personal expectations how the other party will respond. mtashed's phrasing of this made it sound like he made a friendship test but in reality everyone goes through this stage and it is anticipation and expectations, nobody ever makes any friendship test (in regard to these situations). When mtashed chose to say it like that, it was a mistake because tectone is good at catching these freebies. this is why hex always says "that's not what I meant". mtashed in reality did not make any test before/after his initial video as this is a verbal expression, easily misconstrued.
4:17 4:19 Listen to this. Essentially "Let me test it, and I will tell you if it's bad or good"
6:19 "Allowed to have an opinion as long as it's yours"
The audacity to think yours is THE OPINION, which is a FACT
The man is so high on his own supply
The man is a textbook narcissist, and he's honestly becoming worse. So bad in fact that he takes pride in being called a narcissist.
Meanwhile, any of his community that understands that that's a bad thing to be, is blind to the fact that he is.
I fail to see the problem here. This is content, not the middle east war.
I think we all know what kind of CC Tec is and if you follow him... it's quite probably because that's what you want to see, doesn't it?
It's refreshing to see someone that's self centered, hard opinionated and gives zero fugs about feelings, how things look or about the guy at the other side of the debate (while keeping things not personal).
Yet somehow, everyone that tries (and fails) to debate with him always end up going after the person rather than the topic. It's adults vs kids every single time.
@eduardoarancibia169 Dude, the content of your response gives me scant hope that you recognize the issues with it...
But I'm going to answer you earnestly in hopes that it does
There are several issues with your argument:
1. By making comparisons to the Middle East war, you are downplaying the potential harm caused by narcissistic and toxic behavior. Just because it's not a life-and-death situation doesn't mean the behavior is acceptable or without consequence. If you've ever been personally harmed by a person's behavior in your life, you know that it doesn’t have to be life and death to hurt.
2. You describe Tectone's behavior as "refreshing," which can normalize and even glorify toxic behavior. This, to my point, encourages similar behavior in him and in others and can contribute to a toxic community/society culture. No one should want that. That’s how you end up with larger issues like the war in the Middle East. A lot of individuals acting together toward a shared negative that becomes so big, that it becomes something else.
3. You claim that debates with the Tectone end up being personal because opponents "fail" to debate properly. This ignores the possibility that Tectone’s narcissistic behavior may provoke such responses by refusing to engage constructively and dismissing others' opinions outright. (This, by the way, is essentially what Mtashed took exception to. Tectone doesn’t "fight fair." It's the whole wrestling with a pug in mud situation mixed with arguing with stupid people. He effectively drags his debate opponents into the mud, enjoys the mud wrestle, and beats them with experience)
4. You are endorsing narcissism. By saying it's "refreshing" to see someone who is "self-centered" and "hard opinionated," you are endorsing narcissistic traits. Narcissism IS bad. It has negative impacts on interpersonal interactions and community/society health. It makes people we engage with feel bad. Most people don't want people they engage with to feel bad. That’s how society works. That's why Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a disorder. It's undesirable
5. You're dismissive of emotion. Dismissing emotion isn't actually a good thing. You praise Tectone for not caring about feelings or how things look (which, by the way isn’t actually true for him. He does care about feelings and how things look. He wants to look like the winner, the logical one, etc. He wants people to feel he's "the man." He wants his community to "like" him.)
While detachment from emotions might seem appealing to some (like yourself), it ignores the importance of empathy and respectful discourse in building a healthy, supportive community. There's a reason why MOST people don't like people who say, "I don't care what people think or how people feel."
6. You're oversimplifying the criticism leveled at Tectone (and consequently engaging in some logical fallacies). By effectively suggesting that anyone who criticizes Tectone is behaving like a child, you are implying that valid concerns are immature. This dismisses legitimate critiques and shuts down meaningful conversations about Tectone's behavior. (Which is what most people arguing on these sort of threads are doing... so if that's what you're about, hooray for you.)
Based on all of this, I can only give this critique and only hope that you develop and grow greater perspective over time. Good luck if you'll have it. Cheers
TL;DR
You make some statements here that indicate to me that you MAY have a problematic attitude towards narcissistic and toxic behavior and that you don’t recognize the broader implications of this for social dynamics and individual well-being. Hope that works out for you in the world. Cheers
@Alderberanirgal Interesting take. It's somewhat tough to address them all on the phone so I'll just tackle one that got my interest in the meantime.
About point 3, there are ways and ways to debate, and Tectone's rude, obnoxious, dismissive and infuriating way about it is one. Talking to a prick doesn't mean you have carte Blanche on how you go about it just because he's a prick.
About finding his toxic attitude refreshing, I don't know what you watch, but there's this bland kumbaya attitude towards a million topics nowadays that's actually really boring. Everyone trying to "be in the right side of the argument" is just plain disingenuous and not interesting.
I'm not saying we need Skip Bayless/SAS in every single show on TV, but they are ok and refreshing in just one from time to time.
I really don't get myself involved into any drama further than this post and one I actually made at Mujin about a fact that catched my attention.
@Alderberanirgal about 5, I hear you. I don't advocate for everyone to be like that, but in a small dosis it is interesting and fun. There are a couple of comedians that explore this avenue... with very different results.
so in short Tectone got mad at Mtashed reacting to him being a dick and Tectone tries to twist it like he was shit talking him publically like do you realize everyone would have the same reaction and impression of Tectone as Mtashed did? the clips starting at 22:35 are just a bunch of pathetic lies and on top of that interrupting Mtashed to not explain him difference between their videos after all of that "look how the person you're trying to defend acts" he literally did not try to defend her but make it about him and Tectone🤦♂I cannot believe people eat Tectone's shit up
Tectone going around CCs and telling them how to feel about the game has to be top of the cringe list. He would call a everybody a mint picker if they would do the same. He makes money on drama nobody care about his gameplay. He put himself in this corner and there is no way out.
Hex is so spineless lmao
Tbf tectone kept provoking mtashed saying obnoxious things i bet anyone would snap after years of having to put up with that lmao
I'm going to be completely honest. The way tectone talks to people is extremely condescending. He comes across in every exchange I see with him as a massive prick. I can see that start to weigh on a person and start to make them resent him. On top of that, he was gaslighting the fuck out of Hex. You cannot tell me he wasn't. While it was shitty of Mtashed to rope her into his own issues, I can see what he was saying. Especially the Stockholm syndrome point. Because, the issue with tectone if that he is such a massive streamer in the gacha space, and his community is so large and has a huge reach, that he definitely influences certain things. And, especially with him kind of helping Hex's growth, I can see why she wouldn't want to speak out against him publicly. She would be labeled as a backstabber and betrayer. The thing is, Tectone needs to learn how to talk to people. He is one of the most disrespectful people I have ever seen. He has 0 empathy for anyone. Idk. I understand what Mtashed was saying and why he did what he did.
Ngl, the way tectone brought up Hex's gender out of nowhere during the argument and insinuated that he loses argument because she's a woman getting too emotional over this is pretty scummy.
I have a feeling Tectone does not understand what Strawman argument means
He doesn't lol. First time I've seen this guy and holy shit is he insufferable lmfao. Clearly going through some shit.
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There's a lot of things Tectone does not understand.
He just pretends to know everything 😂
@@TonytonyChopper-wf5cqWell if you're confident enough, people are bound to believe you. His viewer think Tec is an actual intelligent person
Tectone mad bcoz other cc not liking the game he's having fun with? Sounds like a narcissist crybaby?
Tectone is mad at streamers who trashtalk game withow any idea of this game and he say many times streamer can have opinion on game but its not "good" opinion trashtalking is not recension
@@PolishSadboy That's just him trying to justify his over exaggerated reaction to other CCs not liking the game. I don't know if he's doing it to farm drama or if he's being himself. I've seen some ccs explaining why they don't like a particular thing in zzz. Tectone is just straw Manning others arguments to make his argument justifiable.
always been, as well as attacking people for different opinions from him.
in other news - water makes things wet
@@PolishSadboy Ah yes calling someone a "ret**d" for not liking the games UI is totally fine right.
Also being completely ingenious with the "who trashtalk game withow any idea of this game". Skull said what he didn't like and that sentance was his general vibe of the game yet Tectone ran with that shit and kept reference it to dismiss any negative opinion. He even called him and others "weak and smallminded".
@@PolishSadboy skull got attacked with hatred because he criticize the game all because tectone reacted to it like a fucking baby being mad about the person who didn't like the game that he likes..... tectone's fan will just take his opinion and have it as a fact.... because they're all yesman.
I mean sure, mtashed reacting online its kinda low but COME ON, TECTONE DID IT WITH HEX, DID IT BEFORE ON THE ATSU SITUATION LIKE WHO CARES, LET MTASHED DO THE SAME AT THIS POINT, that's how tectone has been doing it
Tectone is the definition of condesending...
Stop saying Tectone has had Mtashed's back. Those meme videos he makes on Mtashed with clickbait titles are a stab in the back
That wasn't just a stab in the back, he just straight up stab him in the balls and then pissed on it. After that looks at the camera asking with a smug face, am i the asshole.
I vividly remember Tectone saying that Mtashed should take a break from gachas and play some other games like Diablo and that he hopes Mtashed finds a game he can enjoy. Tectone has had Mtashed's back multiple times. Joking about your friend quitting every game is not a valid reason to go on a 3-hour session on stream, shit talking your friend.
So true I was like WTF when did he had mtashed's back ever? I'm shocked it wasn't proved at the end or it was just cut from this video
@@marcusbr4259 well he did have his back and stabbed said back with his "memes", "jokes" and light jabs to mtashed.
Yall really don't have friends like Hex said. You don't have any running jokes with your friends. Even if they dont like it they would say something if they really had an issue with it. It's just weird to see these types of comments when you don't know the whole situation. Parasocial people are weiiiird
Hexjuice is such a dog
9:32 what? you can't criticize a game until you've gotten to endgame? So of all the bad games I quit, I can't give a single review until I go back and reach all their endgames??? That makes no sense. You're supposed to play a portion of the game to get a grasp on whether you think it's worth wasting more time on it. You're not supposed to think "this game is 1/10" and then keep playing and playing and playing. Tectone is saying you can't share your opinion on a game unless you play until endgame. That's ridiculous.
Second, people are allowed to give "first impressions", and also second impressions. If a game's beginning to mid-game has the OPPOSITE EFFECT OF A HOOK, that is absolute incompetence and they DESERVE every negative early impression they get. Tectone's logic is again that you need to play past that??? Dude, if your game's early-mid-game is so bad it PUSHES PEOPLE AWAY, you need to do better. How can tectone try to defend them and silence people for them? he's just a content creator...
edit: holy sht, when i wrote that comment, I did not know that hex actually joined tectone's side after hearing his gaslighting logic. logic was against tectone and hex joined him? so hex always saying tectone was a way bigger influencer really tells me that for hex, viewership is greater than logic. did not expect that spineless plot twist from hex.
Tectone is the common denominator in most gacha dramas. Bro is the problem
The biggest shipping in gacha community died damn
Tectone literally cannot handle other people having a different opinion and he is extremely manipulative
Tectone getting in Drama in literally every community. Bro is a genuine problem
lmao hex is a massive social climber
Tactone gives a master class on how to be an abuser. Notice how he gaslights, he deflects, he deliberately misrepresents, after give a personal dig, he gives a compliment. It's just classic abusive behaviour. It doesn't matter if people misunderstand or misrepresents him. He brings it upon himself.
Tectone's smirk is so infuriating
Man the way tectone argues is so fucking insufferable. Dudes ego is out of this world these days. What a shame.
yeah tectone and mtashed is a whole problem of their own both are dumb asf in different ways
I’m really sad how Hexjuicr handled this. I’ve been watching her videos for months and loved her because she calls out BS when she sees it and isn’t afraid to voice out her own opinion - but now this. She was given a chance to defend herself and all that talk in her videos. Oh well, now we know who are the real ones. Hats off to Mtashed trying to be the dad in the community, he always had the best intentions and isn’t afraid to put himself in the middle to call people out.
Hexjuice is the real hypocrite here
She had 2 choices
1. Stand on her own feet/opinion
2. Chicken out and discard her own beliefs and continue clout chasing from tectone
Guess which one she chose
She knows tectone gave her a lot of clout and still gives
They probably talked in private
That’s why she completely took a u turn on the next day
Like she got brainwashed
This is so messed up
Ngl that was some real snake shit she did. Tectone put her on tho she wouldnt even be known right now if it wasnt for him reacting to her vid. She knows fucking up the friendship with him hurts her growth so shes gonna grit her teeth and bare with whatever he does to her. Crazy what clout does to a mf. Bet this wont be the last time either
How much you wanna bet tectone is screenshot the private dms a million times in case he gets cancelled again😂
They didn't. She pretended Tectone "apologized" but when he started his stream he said that he was PISSED with her.
I found it so weird that she said “suddenly it’s not about me anymore” and then complained about mtashed being a “white knight”
thats what narcassists want though, they want to talk to you alone so theres no external input in what is being said. thats why it wasnt going his way on stream, at all, and then all of a sudden the next day its like nothing happened.
I like tectone but he’s wrong in this situation. His smug responses to degrade hex and then mtashed shows a serious lack of emotional maturity int his situation. He needs to check the ego before he loses friends and followers. “It’s just a joke” is not an excuse when your friends are telling you to stop doing something that makes them uncomfortable.
At the very least we can say that tec and hex’ conversation was “not nice” and yeah anyone could see that and come to that conclusion, but tec doesn’t like that so he tries way too hard to back track
My take on everyone:
Mtashed should walk away from gachas and find an MMO or looter shooter, or find a new career to consistently provide for his family.
Tectone needs to chill
Hexjuice needs to stop stirring the pot and cloutchasing
fortunately for mtashed the first descendant seems exactly like his game.
@@PyrusnVentus Yeah destiny 2 clone is exactly up his ally.
@@Necrxlith Closer to Warframe than D2 just from every facet.
@shinigamiryan5837 More reasons why Mtashed will suck at it and quit like all the games he plays.
@@Necrxlith True
tectone seems insufferable to have as a friend. Can't imagine being a CC and having to deal with this guy
That explains why he has so many friends and an org behind him...
My honest opinion/hot take: if the game is not fun for the first hour or two. I'm dropping it immediately. I don't have the time to be chasing the fun on a game like you have to be like lvl 15 to have fun type sht. I thought games was supposed to hand over to you the silver platter which contains fun and/or challenge. It's just bad to be playing 12+ hrs not having fun. Like dude wtf when does the sht get fun. It's really unhealthy to just power through something that's not bringing you joy or just something makes you feel bad or depressed.
I don't understand the mentality of bashing someone for playtime when the game is designed to be a waste of time which all gachas are and try so hard to make the grind less for dailies so players don't burn out too fast and stop paying/playing their game
@@Azel49 exactly my point. Like I'm playing the game for 2hrs and you're telling me to shut up because I haven't played for 12hrs+. I don't have it in me to power through the game because I just feel sleepy. ZZZ for me is like genshin but worsened I guess. Like the general gameplay is bad and I'm supposed to wait till I get to the endgame to have fun. I gave it a fair shake and didn't take. At least in genshin i had fun exploring at the beginning and got stale at the endgame. Now just imagine stale gameplay but exceptional combat(pretty nice for a hoyo game) and you get to the endgame which is 90% stale. That is just messed up🤔. I love tectone and mtashed but I think tectone just gave it a too much benefit of the doubt than it should have.
Side note: Mtashed is weird af for testing friendship when he could've just had this convo in private. Also tectone has a tendency to say ok to you in DMs and then does the thing he shouldn't do.
@@ZerSes-uw1yiI don’t understand tho why it is a problem that mtashed reacted to tectone and hex publicly. Doesn’t tectone do this all the time like react to drama so why is it wrong when mtashed is doing it and hex and tectone also published their arguments publicly so what’s wrong with that
Thank you! People called me a madman when I dropped wuwa at the 2-3 hour mark. Sometimes if the game doesn't hit, it just doesn't and that okay. That doesn't make any game bad because gameplay experiences are all subjective.
Tectone literally needed an assist to try and win the argument. It had to be a 2v1 for poor little narcissist tectone to stroke his ego for a "W"
TDS is alive and well I see.
He has no lackeys anymore. I mean i cant blame them, i rather shit my marriage too if it can get me out from this loser😂
Mtashed was the first one to use other people as ammunition. If you're using another person's name in the discussion then that person has a right to speak up for themselves.
@@Natsuke1104 Then they should speak 1 on 1 on the matter or with a neutral party involved. Tectone is not a neutral party as he is connected with Hex and point of interest in the discussion. Having two people on the call who call themselves friends is not 3 neutral parties its a 2v1 and Tec knows this as he admitted he spoke with her offline. Not hard to understand the timing for Hex to join to clear the air would of been before or after Tec and Mtash discussion.
@@tacoparm839 that's fair. I don't know if both tect and mtash aggreed to put hex on call. If they didn't mutually agree then yeah he got teamed.
That Tectone and Hexjuice thing was hard to watch. Bro was going on a little ego trip
28:31 that's actually facts tho... Tectone doesn't give any proper context behind his videos... But I don't want them to endup hating each other
Tectone is prone to be hated. It's ricegum level of pathetically low
I dont think they will end up hating eachother, even though tectone will for sure bring up this drama and give mtashed a bad rep every once in a while, Mtashed is someone who can let go and wont write a MY EXPERIENCE WITH TECTONE style document. hes mature and wants to be done with it
@@brammutje15 I'll be real both them ain't mature. They're just fighting for a stupid a*s gacha game where they don't even get sponsored .
@@brammutje15 welp, we'll just wait and see i guess. I hope for once that eggshell goober shut up
This whole situation is so weird and watching it just hurt man. I was a massive fan of tectone, but wtf was this? Mtashed was completely valid lmao. He has said many times his stance on tectone whenever tectone slips up and mtash calls it out. Especially the part about tectone making ''mtash quit'' videos and having a hate mob sent his way. Tectone has always known he doesnt like that and never ceased to doing it. Oh and don't even get me started on how the only part of this that had anything to do with Hex was the fact Mtash just dropped how he feels about tectone upon watching their argument, but other than that he did not defend or even mention her at all, yet they constantly both just made it about mtashed white knighting her?? Tectone cannot accept someone else having a different opinion than him and Hex is too afraid to go against the person who made her so she just cowered like a dog. Pretty fucking weird btw that someone who is married is just letting another person control them like this, whether for cloutchasing or fear does not matter, defend your damn self and your dignity bro.
hex juice is such a crybaby tbh
Dude you're talking about a chick whose less significant than him like bruh
Hex juice is annoying as hell fr 😒
"Mtashed you should be aware of your own actions" what a fing 🤡 statement coming from the baldtone
This is a gacha game, not a finished game. You shouldn't need to play 72 hours of the game to decide if it's shit or not. This is when Tectone misses me, gacha games are designed to insta trap you and ZZZ doesn't do that for a fuck ton of people, it just doesn't. So when a content creator shows up painting the boring yaping fiesta that is ZZZ obviously people will get mad and think they're shilling, Tecctone is shilling for free because he's not even getting paid HYV
U miss that many people can have fun of that niche game and tactone just try tell dumb streamera recension gameplay playing for seconds is not good and its 1.0 there are many thing dev can fix and ONE FK DAY all people trashtalk having 0 idea what tis wrong with this game
@@PolishSadboy @PolishSadboy I don't deny that, but the people that don't like it are not few by any means and they aren't being influenced by content creators. You should not feel forced to play a whole ass patch of a gacha game to decide if you like it or not, or hell to say if it is shit or not.
Even if it's a finished one, you do not need a billion hours to be a cuck for a first impressions
Yeah, tectone was wrong in this situation for sure. You don't need to play a game for 10 hours just to decide if it's enjoyable or not. You can usually tell within the first hour or so. Hoyo dropped a game that is flawed, plain and simple, but saying we have to wait until endgame or a few years into a game's lifecycle is just ridiculous.
Nah I played zzz it was mid not so enjoyable the first 5 - 10 hours.
But turn out it’s great after lvl20
the combat really satisfying and hard mode on. I’ll give it 8/10 overall
You play 2 hours you wanna quit,its fine.
maybe the art style, the first map or what so ever doesn’t fits you
But you couldn’t judge it while its still at tutorial 😅
thats not the argument and u kids keep misconstruing what is being said..hes saying you cannot give a valid and fair review of any game if you have not played or experienced the game in its entirety…it makes absolutely no sense…and in this case seeing that it is a live service game…u cannot fairly critique this game until youve seen or experienced the entire patch only after playing for a few fucking hours its ridiculous dumb…now can u quit a game in an hour after playing because its not for u? sure…baldurs gate 3 was boring asf to me and i played it for 4 hours…and it won game of the year do i now have the right to say the game is absolutely shit and consider that opinion a fair review? fuck no
@@twistedfate9475 im 36....and its still mostly tvs and runnin around at mornin afternoon night late night to make sure i dont miss anything. the combat is brainless once u start upgradin ur discs
@@twistedfate9475 other than the TV part you speaking, I thought you actually talking about Wuwa (running around picking mobs, quest and 📦) 😆
But yeah I agreee, the TV suck
Only around 30-40% I find a little fun playing it.
The combat and story are ok, like the scene of robots fighting was 🔥.
I heard the TV gonna tune down the % when it get higher lvls.
Anyway let’s see how it is, i think it was fun enough to play so far.
@@Kin_shek Yeah, i'm currently one mission after level 20 as I just broke the level cap. But I find it to be very average 7/10 or so. I don't hate the TV portion but there is so much of it, I'm starting to get annoyed with it. The combat is fun because I'm actively searching for swap routes to maximize them in combos with Koleda, Ben, and Nicole, but the TV portion sucked the excitement of hitting level 20 out of me. It's still a good game, but I cannot dump time into it the same way I have with GI, Wuwa, or even star rail in the past during 1.0.
I mean im on tashman side cus this dude knows tectone and been sharing this space with hime over 4 years now, and hex who doesn’t really know tectone “certain behaviour” is still want to be his friend. Tashed knows what he’s doing, he knows tectone more than hex know abt him.. i just hope hex doesn’t regret by her action now lol.
if you aren't even allowed judge a game by 2h gameplay then you shouldn't even be allowed to ask a refund for game in steam.
Nah bro your final verdict makes no sense clearly tectone was in the wrong 100% all the comments seem to agree as well
Hex not understanding that her situation is just being used as evidence and not as a mascot is just helping Tectone further manipulate this whole situation.
I like tecton overall but here he took a massive L imo, not in terms of losing viewer but just showing people what kind of a person he is.
Yup it was very mask off.
I'd say he took an L but Mtashed is holding an Enviosity sized L. Guy's the 3rd biggest pussy in gacha now.
What mask? Dude has been this much of an asshole since early content making😂@@zipzzo
He's always been this way, he's a good guy and does good things but he is really not empathetic at all for people's feelings, like AT ALL LMAO. He legitimately thinks everybody is below him and wrong, and it's not even as a joke or for a persona, he sincerely thinks everybody is stupid.
@@haziee3108he is just an asshole straight up, all his irl is just overcompensating for his online persona. He thinks he can get away being an asshole if he is being nice to a few people offline. Just a people pleaser.
Broo, Mtashed didnt do anything, what r u on about saying he drooped a gas??? tectone always brew dramas, skullCJay got targeted by tectone for some stupid shit. And tectone was bringing mtashed to his delusional mindset of a drama try to bully skullCJay... Mtashed is SO FUCKING DAMN RIGHT SAYING, that there is this pattern that has always been happening with tectone and other creators make up dramas and making vids bulling and starting some shit up out of nothing. We've seen it in the past and its just keep happening again and again cuz tectone is the one in the middle of it making a spider web brewing dramas. We're tired of this drama its so childish, why dont he just play a fucking game and vibe out with his fans. Why dose he always start a drama with his friends or other CC, its so dumb and stupid. Seems like his trying to find his next atsu to me....
It's because Tectone must be the center of attention no matter what and just playing games doesn't get people as interested in his content as him causing drama so he will always choose the latter. This is a prime example of this pattern where post-Atsu drama the gacha space was relatively drama free and a lot of creators seemed to be getting along and even working together.
Then ZZZ came out and many creators posted negative reviews which went against Tectone, who said he liked it and thought it was a good game. But instead of just using this disagreement to start a discussion and see why everyone fel the way they did, instead Tectone went full man-child and started insulting any creator who didn't agree with him including his own 'friends' and even smaller creators like Skulljay who was onmy guilty of making a perfectly fine and fair first impressions video.
Idk if tectone started drama in order to farm it or his ego couldn't take the fact that he was in the minority when it came to ZZZ and if it's a good game or not. Like many people, especially those who seek public approval and support Tectone has a massive ego but is also incredibly insecure so he had a temper tantrum and this is the result.
That first clip with Hex and Tec talking was very weird, Tec seemed to constantly force the conversation into circles and making Hex feel stupid for even having the opinion she did, and Tec had this while viewpoint that he was superior in everyway. Shit was weird. Felt like he was acting like a certain Rat.
Oh there's a reason why him that certain rat became fast friends at first.
I was married to a man like Tectone (freed myself from him in 2012), there is a reason he is divorced and currently “dating” multiple anime gacha waifus 😂 He’s 1000% a classic narcissist with a raging ego and zero motivation to change - go back and watch the clips from a few years ago, him yelling at and berating his then wife, and tell me this is a good person lol
wasn't that clip of him shortly after he found out she had an affair
Her wife was not a good person either she cheated
That's cuz he literally caught his wife cheating on him right before they started that stream