Punisher Humbles The Joker
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- Punisher Humbles The Joker
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"You know, in Gotham we do things differently. We don't kill mass murderers."
"Fuck you."
I want to see frank castle in sin city
@@spade8094 He already is. His name is Marv
Marv is the goat
I do love it's canon that after Red Hood purged theh Drug Dealers in gotham, crime has permanently been slightly lower.
"Explains places death count."
If Punisher operated in Gotham crime rates in Gotham would have been reduced by at least 80% .
no, things is gonna be way more worst. Criminal gonna be more crazy, more unpredictable, and even you kill some top notch like joker or riddler, there’ll be some evil bastard replace them with much more cruelty. Cause now they know it’s death or alive.
@@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 top dogs will fight to death but majority of low level criminals won't have the courage to fight him .
While also reducing the population just through collateral damage alone
@@shwetasingh5617 no my friend, they’re gonna be the most terror for Gotham city, if the top dog can’t save their life, then they’ll take everyone else to hell with them
@@quanglinhnguyenpham1441 no it wouldn't. Once you take out the Heavy Hitters like Joker, Two face, Bane, poison ivy, penguin, etc crime won't be the same. You just making excuses.
It's brilliant how quickly Joker's 'crazy' shtick gets dropped when he meets someone who won't play along and buy into the grift.
Except in the canon DC universe Joker literally is so insane he has no fears.
Nolan Joker : Why So Serious.
well, it's like Jason Todd said to Joker once, when he was setting up a three way confrontation between him and Batman "I know your secret. Sure, you're crazy....but you're not THAT crazy." Joker wasn't laughing for that line. Same thing with Harley Quinn, really. She was always more than a manic pixie sidekick/brainless moll.
@@alexsolomon8127 Yeah, it's a con. And it makes Joker MORE evil, because he's perfectly sane - but plays the system and manipulates the empathy and decency of those around him to keep getting away with his antics. I do wish Batman would just get wise to it, though.
@@louthegiantcookie oh, he knows. you forget though..HE"S INSANE TOO.
I like how punisher doesn’t care if he kills people and that genuinely scared joker
Can't toy with Batman if you are dead. Joker always sees the battle between him and Batman is an ideological battle. But the Punisher doesn't want to debate. He's only concerned with one thing that is Joker must die.
Punisher is violence and the answer is yes.
I think its because joker lives to break rules, especially Batmans. What he clearly doesn't realise is the punisher doesn't have any, other than "punish the evil and wicked" 😂 the punisher is like the boogeyman to a dude like the joker 😂
This why Nolanverse Joker is the only one true Joker unlike the comic book Joker he is only one who actually broke Batman and doesn't fear death maybe beacuse he was an ex soldier. I think Nolanverse Joker would laugh at Comic's Joker pathetic attemp's to break Batman.
@@Resident4Island Nolan's Batman did something several times worse than murder (using mass surveillance and interference with the legislation) even without making Batman committing murder, the trilogy Joker won.
The punisher is right. Absolutely right.
I'm a batman fan but he is right. Once again, the batman allows the joker to get away due to self righteousness. The result is more will die.
Castle is right. They deserve each other.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Batman has outright saved the Joker's life on numerous occasions, including now. Bruce is not just metaphorically but directly responsible for everything The Joker does.
@immortalfrieza that's why I like the moment in dark knight returns where he acknowledged it
Batman too is a mental ill guy. If he don't kill its not because it will not solve problems, in cases like Joker who cares about a second, third, or billonth chance to redeem himself the important thing is to take him out of the range of innocent people, and thousands of times jails don't keep him locked a long time.
Batman fear to become a psycho like Joker if he kill, and in some universes it effectively happens.
@@FradthThe only reason it happens in those universes is because of dumb writers. The only excuse I can give is Batman Who Laughs, since when Joker died, he released Joker Toxin onto Batman upon death.
Reminds me of an exchange between Spawn & Joker in Mortal Kombat:
*Spawn:* "Your angel of death awaits."
*Joker:* "You can't kill me! Heroes have moral codes!"
*Spawn:* "Who said I was a Hero?"
An actual hero would be willing to kill The Joker, not to mention anybody else. That's part of being a hero, being willing to do whatever is necessary to stop villains like Joker from harming people, including killing them.
@@immortalfriezaAny damn hero will not even hesitate to kill joker on the spot because how much dangerous he is.
@@manojsinghkathait9551But he is Batman’s wife and Batman will defend Joker no matter what
@@leonelzubieta8636 that's some femboy shit which I don't want to argue on man
@@immortalfrieza All Might from My Hero Academia is view as the number one hero and the very symbol of peace, and he had the resolve to kill All For One, because All Might deemed AFO too much of a threat to humanity. But All Might failed because he didn't make sure AFO was fully dead. And we can see in MHA All Might had more than enough conviction to kill AFO the second time around despite failing and sending AFO to prison. Since All Might recieved a grave blow to his chest or torso in his first battle against AFO, All Might was losing the ability to use his power over time, so the second battle was more or less the last time All Might delivered a powerful blow using up the rest of his power. (P.S. the first MHA movie with deku in the battle against Wolfram where All Might used his power was something else and I don't wanna delve too deeply 😅)
One thing I don't like about this run is that the writers forget that the Punisher is a Martial artist. He has studied eight different martial arts and trains to an extreme level. His fighting style should not be anger fueled brawling.
thats what i hate about comic writers they would always nerf a character whens its convenient for the plot
@@carlosvasquez1947 exactly. While Batman should be the better hand to hand combatant it should not be one sided and it should show that the Punisher is trained and disciplined in hand to hand combat.
Well did you stop to think maybe this isn't that same Punisher?
Even beyond this, Frank has received extensive hand to hand training both due to his time in Marine Force Recon and canonically cross training with DELTA and SAS. While Batman would be better, Punisher would prove challenging nonetheless.
Ennis never wrote the punisher that way and his is the most iconic.
If you fuse Punisher and Batman, you get Flashpoint Batman.
Or The Grim Knight
@@NhBleker Or Jason Todd
Or maybe something completely more terrifying
Batman has gone out of his way to save the jokers life from everything, including an electric chair.
No really, batman served as the jokers defense attorney
Joker was made a bch. He found out some people aint playin games, like Bruce.
This is why I love Frank Castle. No frills, No bullshit.
" If youre guilty, Youre Dead "
Now imagine the Punisher max killing joker
4:22 pause: Jokers “You’re really going to do it.” Absolutely stone cold, looking at what he wants Batman to be, and he was terrified of it.
He was scared because it _wasn't_ Batman who was going to pull the trigger. It has to be Bruce, or his death would be meaningless
If Frank can't get Batman to kill Joker no one can. On a side note, I miss the days when comics were comics and characters could fuck around in each other's universes
"NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T KILL MY HECKIN JOKERINO, I HAVE TOO MUCH FUN PLAYING WITH HIM!!!!!"
Batman is a bigger clown then Joker ever could be.
Man really risks the lives of innocents. We still expected to see him as a "hero."
"KILLING A MASS MURDERING LUNATIC THAT HAS SLAUGHTERED AND TORTURED MILLIONS IS BAD BECAUSE... uhhh... well... because... ...BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK?!?!?"
@@bimates2690 cause he feels it is not his call to make.
@ColdNorth0628 bruce wayne could literally run for president on his own dollar and win if he really felt like making a difference. But why bother when beating up the mentally ill is so much fun?
@@ColdNorth0628 why did he stop punisher from doing it then?
Yeah, the Joker is lucky the only hero who deals with him is Batman. There are quite a few heroes who simply wouldn't bother with Joker's bullshit and would just kill him.
Batman didn’t stop Punisher from killing random goons but did stop him from killing the mass murderer who organizes them.
Sure, Castle murders bad people, but Batman IS a Direct accomplice of Joker. He chooses not to cripple him, put him in a chair forever, or make him a quadriplegic, or take care of him permanently. Nope, instead he chooses to allow the psychopath who is also a master Houdini to continue killing.
He does that by letting the judicial system do its job. Faith in the system is the only way Gotham doesn't need a Batman. Everyone blames Batman like there are dozens of cops, judges, attornies, and psychiatrists that couldn't have done something. Even just deciding he's fit for trial and doesn't need to go to Arkham. Send him to Black gate to wait for the electric chair. Some cop or former victim assassinate him anywhere. They'd probably get found not guilty.
Joker in 1989, Batman Beyond, and Arkham Asylum very unlucky...
Michael Keaton's Batman didn't make that mistake...
@@bryanwoods3373 After the dozenth time the judicial system fails to have The Joker executed for his crimes and/or fails to effectively incarcerate him, it very much does become Batman's fault.
@@immortalfriezadoesn't Batman have high influence , fame, money and power huh? And he has the capacity to improve the laws and Judicial system. Batman is the reason why Gotham is suffering from crime and only if Batman used it's powers it will be a lot more different.
Batman has everything on his side but he still decides to go full mode to make plans of "how to defeat your own friends" And when it comes to joker he be like "oh shit i can't kill you because of my code which is stupid as fuck and resulted in you killing many people"
Love the line “got all the therapy you need right here.”
Joker had his smile wiped off there, realized Frank wasn’t fucking around.
I like the fact that, although we can debate on whether or not Punisher should be considered a hero or not, it’s clear that someone like Batman would undoubtably see Frank castle as a madman who needs to be stopped. it just makes a lot of sense judging by Batman‘s moral compass that he would feel this way.
He is pretty much a Jason Todd Red Hood in his eyes and we already knows he doesn’t tolerate that.
Nah, he's better than a hero. Dude actually removes POS of the earth. Not try to "rehabilitate" them (actual serious crimes. Not petty ones). Like the time he beat a human trafficker.
Dude, you should read punisher max, it explains a lot of the character, in a monologue he himself tells how he has a nightmare in wich he kills every murderer, every rapist, every corrupt politician to then ask who let those people live in the first place, to wich he points the gun to the average guy and he wakes up as he feels the recoil.
@@bimates2690 which can only leave behind a power vacuum.
You need to understand what punisher does is short term and can only make escalation an answer. It does not dispell them, only weeds the weaker ones out.
To say he is better also seems to forget that he himself would kill anyone for any reason, big or small.
Moral compass? Batman is a violent narcissist that uses trauma to justify his actions. Dude beats criminals within an inch of their life and throws them in Arkham.. A place where villains escape on the daily. And he knows this. There is no way he doesn't with all the info he has at his disposal. He does this so he can keep up the charade. Ffs how long has he been batman yet, Gotham is still a cesspool of crime? He's a billionaire playboy and what does he do? Does he use he wealth to fix his beloved city? No, he spends money of high tech vehicles and secret bases so he can dress up and beat dudes up while dressed as a bat. Batman IS a villain. Or at the very least criminally insane.
Absolutely love when DC and Marvel come together. What a time to be alive !
Ya know the whole Joker/Batman love story has been going on for far too long. Can they move away from the Joker for at least 10 years and let some other characters shine?
I've been saying this for years
I would be so ok if they killed off Joker for a while
@@Theprimaryfocus Your username essentially sums up all the drama that could've been avoided if he did.
@@Snakeskin94 the problem with killing off the Joker is canon has proven time and again that the universe abhors a vaccum. So if one Joker dies, another will rise. the freaking 5th dimensional imps will find an excuse. (noone can convince me the whole "ride down from high orbit with pinpoint accuracy using my standard costume and my UNDERWEAR as a heat shield" during the failsafe storyline was anything other than bat-mite bending the rules of physics for his "favorite" But.....there are ways to work around that. Once upon a time, DC's tangent line had a HEROIC Joker. what if someone delibrately created a non-homicidal verison of him, then killed the original off/forced him into retirement? there could literally be a magic ritual ala Zatanna/bat Mite himself after he loses a bet to transfer Joker's plot armor to someone else..and Joker realizes that without it, some cop or nameless nobody is just going to SHOOT his ass the next time he leaves his cell. Can't have that. Can't be killed by ANYONE other than the Bat. So he'll wait it out for a few years. He knows THEY will get bored of "all mischief, no malice" soon enough.
I agree, Joker in not just a criminal anymore, He is now a mass murdering terrorist and if Batman continues to protect him at the expense of innocent victims, he is an accessory to all Jokers crimes and warrants should go out for his arrest.
you know shit hits to roof when Batman had to say to Joker to run away to save his life
*Joker would literally be toast atleast 90% of the time if facing Marvels heroes xD*
I would like to see Joker try and pull his bullshit with Deadpool or Moon Knight.
@@jahrusalem3658 deadpool would just broke 4th wall as usual, and for Moon Knight, you are quite right.
The Punisher is NOT 'just a brawler', he is a Marine expert in hand to hand combat.
Damn right.
Used to be maybe. As Punisher, he's little more than a mindless maniac.
@@Tacklepig ??? What noob told you that???
Even they can be overshadowed by Batman.
I would comment exactly that
0:36 The Punisher is a marine he 1000% knows martial arts.
And? Batman has beat soldiers before
@@D-class9341He was only a marine in some continuities; he's special forces in others - a literally Seal. Someone who should be able to go toe to toe with Batman and put up a decent fight - maybe not win - but hold his own.
@@eugeneturner7520 The US military tests there experimental armors by giving them to the literal best soldiers and sending them against batman
Wait, Frank, just a brawler? No. Absolutely not.
We've seen Batman get injured by untrained brawlers. Frank is not untrained. Frank has been trained, and can fight exceptionally well. This part of the comic really bugs me.
Yea it bugs me too frank is great h2h
They probably nerfed the hell out of him for batman to stand a chance.
@j-sant-animations8105 seems like that's how Batman comics are all written these days. They nerf anyone fighting against him, but buff Batman himself. Batman has the strongest plot armor in all of comics because the writers say so. It's like they're scared of writing him as having any kind of limitations or weaknesses.
@@j-sant-animations8105dawg batman would molest the punisher if he wanted to 💀
@@D-class9341gets molested instead punisher can go as brutal as the story wants him to be
"We in the Gotham PD can't give The Joker the Electric Chair, because DC needs to sell more comic books!"
I like how in recent decades that DC has at least tried, and somewhat succeeding, in showing a good reason as to not kill The Joker as with Injustice Superman, Batman Who Laughs, Three Jokers, and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, that whoever takes out Joker will be the next Joker, or something worse than the Joker ever was.
Imagine what would happen if the people of Gotham found out that Batman stopped Castle from killing the Joker. He absolutely didn't need to save the Joker here but he did so anyway. The people of Gotham would hang up with his own cape.
I’m tired of the stories showing Batman as a dumbass. I want more like the time he just let Joker die and went to save Harley Quinn (who was trying to kinda start anew at the time I think) and Joker just blew up.
I've always had a theory Harley was a victim of jokers chemical expertise . My evidence bieng from the 90s cartoon Harley and the victims both have yellow cat eyes and teeth .
And a wide smile . I think the make up she uses is laced because the cartoon is kinda based on the 89 movie and joker tainted beauty supplies and thats why batman was so quick to trust her . Because he knows that deep down she cant live with what she did and needs to atone and at the same time own that persona and also at this point the chemical damage is permant but not so serve that shes a unrealable family member 🤔
Can someone please tell me why they don’t just lobotomize Joker already like they did in that one episode of Justice League? It made him sane in that timeline!
Because it wouldn’t make for a good comic. Plus they did it once why again
That's the real answer. People keep blaming Batman, but Joker would already be dead in a more real world. He was supposed to die in his first appearance. No one truly stays dead in the comics.
left out the part where Frank made the Joker pee his pantes 😂😂
Batman-Watches Punisher openly kill 15 men*
Also Batman- Stops him from killing joker literally ten seconds later*
Mfers be like "Batman should kill Joker already" like, what's literally stopping anyone else though considering Batman literally won't? Like you just just wait until Bats is preoccupied with something and just snipe Joker from a rooftop. Hell Joker makes a big show outta everything, you're telling me no one civilian owns a gun in Gotham and is willing to shoot Joker during a monologue? Red Hood almost did it but insisted on making a show out of it and luring Batman to him, coulda shot the J-man from square 1. Joker's been arrested countless times, not one cop is willing to risk prison or getting fired to just shoot a literal terrorist?
Why doesn't Batman kill Joker? Iunno probably for the same reason no one else does.
Its really easy to kill batman. Aim for that mouth
He literally has a mouth guard also he's dodged bullets from deadshot
@D-class9341 bullet mouth guard that stops all bullets. And has the speed to dodge bullets. The plot of amor get bigger and bigger all the time
@@thewho2482 as if frank didn't literally somehow beat everyone in marvel
@D-class9341 my problem is the writing with batman. Yes, it's a comic. But dam some of the feats are a joke.
@@thewho2482 just don't read the garbage justice league stuff with constantly increasing stakes. Stick to the classic one off stories where batman is actually human
Oh boy, two plot armours against each other.
**deadpan** How thrilling
People when I tell them all characters in fiction have plot armor:😭
Batman will never let his only great love be hurt
Quite difficult not to side with Punisher on this one.
When I heard jigsaw I just thought tobin bell LOL
Punisher doesn’t fuck around
Its such a pain to know of the existence of all of the stories where joker should've died but didn't
I remember when I did that to the Joker (I am literally The Punisher)
No you're not rigby! Raccoons can't be the punisher dude they're not big enough
If i recall corectly theres a run of punisher were he admits that hes "relationship" whit jigsaw aint mutch diferent than the one of batman and joker
ngl i respect punisher alot more than batman
I don't. Batman donates millions to charity and it's cannon that crime in Gotham has lowered
@@D-class9341bah, that’s to feel better about himself and a way of easing the guilt of having the blood of all those innocent victims of the joker on his hands.
@@Kratos0n ot shouldn't be he's job to kill the joker. Notice how every time joker goes on trial he's never given the death penalty. Not to forget that it's canon that Batmans crusade has lowered the crime right by 60% and that's not counting his war on political corruption stopping multiple wars and saving countless lives
@@D-class9341Batman has saved joker from being killed MULTIPLE times, including by the electric chair. He was even his attorney once. Batman is VERY MUCH an accomplice of the jokers murders at this point.
@@Dr.Gaming98 I don't know which comics your reading since in current canon he has never done that
And it’s stuff like this that makes me hate the whole superhero genre. You have villains like the joker who kill people just for the sick and twisted pleasure they get out of it, yet instead of putting him down like the rabid dog he is, Batman continues to lock him up in a facility that is not able To contain someone like the joker. I mean seriously!!! Where are the geniuses of the DC universe? Get a couple of them together, get them to design an escape proof prison!!! Hell!!! Get Superman to use the phantom zone generator on the worst criminals like the Joker. Villains who are Irredeemable
Because then writers couldnt use him again
These are one of the few times Joker was actually scared. Other than the time when he tried to play a prank on Superman he took it serious where it wasn't even fun for the Joker. Punisher on the other hand is the direct opposite of what Batman's code is and the moment Joker saw this he was shitting himself. If Batman never intervened he would have been a dead man.
If Punisher was in Gotham, either Sinestro or Atrocitus (or both) would have a powerful new recruit.
What I love about punisher is he instills fear with just his actions no bat costume and theatrics required
Frank is highly trained special forces soldier one of the best hand to hand combat
Batman is such a Joker simp.
Honestly Joker only works as a DC character cause if he tried to fuck with Marvel characters they’d just kill him without hesitation
Whats with all the random comments of people that have never heard of a crossover? Just wait until they find out that Superman and Wonder Woman held Mjolnir...
Joker:Change Partners(Arch-Enemies) and Dance!
Later:Punisher would give the "therapy" to Joker but Batman Stops.
This shows Batman is a coward
Let's be honest, when it comes to Batman not killing Joker, it is fucking terrible and makes no sense at all.
I wish a crossover like this was possible nowadays as a result of Injustice and the dark multiverse existing in DC comics that gives us Injustice Superman, and The Grim Knight who are what Frank Castle is, but who didn’t stop and became worse monsters than those they were fighting against. It be interested to see someone like The Punisher confront these individuals, where it be like looking into a mirror and it challenging him on where does he cross the line to not become like these twisted individuals, or if what those like Batman, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and etc have actual substance in why they don’t like like he does.
He needs joker so he can be the worlds greatest detective
Otherwise what will he detect
The murder rate would skyrocket thanks to the Punisher. Gotham would be beyond repair
Is this from the cannon crossover the two series had.
this made me hate batman
The art here is really good, who drew it?
John Romjta jr
@@hjcb2976 oh ok
William Oscar garvin:🤔🤨 Wow Batman and The Punisher are evenly match in a fight And this would be obvious? They both had symbols that are similar to each other This will be a crossover between Marvel universe and DC universe and this event and what do you think about this people And what do you have to say about that?
i got a question, is batman the right hero to fight Adolf Hitler and Ted Bundy, or should the Punisher exterminate Adolf Hitler and Ted Bundy?
But he is from marvel
Its ok to make jokes about Bat lovin Joker and that he sucks as a hero but the moment i do so for Supes x Luthor or Spidey x Goblin and Spidey x Kingpin Im the bad guy.
Especialy when I call Spidey and Supes hypocrites for syopping others revenge but go gets theirs😂
I would love see to Punisher beat the crap out of Batman
the joker don't give a damn about dying, he basically dies in every major turning points, evil justice league and all that
Joker hates dying a meaningless death, he wants batman to kill him to break him but this wouldnt work on Frank. Frank is the perfect counter to joker
These sorts of crossovers always just end up being a bit cringe. At least this was decent...
I always feel like Marvel heroes are absolutely with killing someone. I cant think of one thats against killing not even Cap.
Im sittin here thinkin......Punisher despises Gotham......wait.....those are 2 different universes? Wtf?
Crossovee
The Joker would kill the Punisher with his bare hands. He's beaten Batman in fist fights more than once, including their first encounter. One is the stuff of nightmares the other is a man with some guns and a skull on his jumper.
Lol no, you're wrong, you think joker playing a similar game with batman when up against the punisher. With punisher anything goes, frank doesn't hesitate and doesn't waste time, he will kill joker the moment he got the chance, if frank had the chance to snipe joker from a distance he will do it in a heartbeat. unlike batman where Bruce is always hesitate and will always want to make sure he doing as minimal damage as possible Which is the reason why joker able to go toe to toe with Bruce.
somebody had to.
Punisher in DC?
isnt punisher a marvel character? is this a crossover or smt
Obviously a crossover bruh
1993
Is punisher in dc or marvel.
Marvel
I thought Punisher was Marvel?
he is it's a crossover thing
Hi
Isn't punisher marvel?
*Batman Humbles The Punisher.
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Get your ass out of my Gotham city
I AM BATMAN 😎
@@thepunisherchacal3330The darkest Knight slams
a bit disgusting that they mix up marvel and dc characters that makes no sense
It's called a crossover comic and people used to love them
so in another words this comic proves how stupid and useless batman is.
Punisher is meh. Imagine Deadpool coming to Gotham.
Meh... imagine judge dredd coming to Gotham and have full authority to be the judge, jury and executioner. He will take over batman job and replace him, and There's nothing batman can do about it. Batman would literally be force into a retirement.
Everyone, the whole “Batman should kill joker” thing is getting old. There are other human beings (and some questionably humanish people) in Gotham capable of this and since nobody at any point was ever owed anything by Batman; he can do his thing, his way. He’s under no obligation to save or end any life, maybe the police should hire better marksmen. Or y’know, start involving US government agencies (he’s definitely crossed into domestic terrorism)
Funny how this argument *never* comes across with other heroes and their villains some of which are existential dangers to the very planet
a mad clown with bombs seems a lot less important now, doesn’t it? Almost… comical.
Batman vs the Joker is done, old news. Batmans ideals are to save people, yet he has failed. Repeatedly. If we were using real logic the Joker would get the death penalty ages ago, no contest. The only people who would defend him are just as insane. As for there being no outside interference blame the self contained story, or plot hole.
How would you end an existential threat anyway, without A force greater than or equal to it? I would tread carefully as there atleast.
Every story has to have an ending eventually.
Batman's ideal is to heal Gotham. Saving people is just a byproduct. His no kill rule is because he's creating faith in the system. If the police and courts do their jobs, there's much less need for a Batman. Gotham has become a lot less corrupt with the mobs losing power.
@@Grey_World1 way to say much and yet nothing at all. Yes the meta commentary of comics needing to be sold so no *real* consequences happen has been addressed, ad nauseum. What I mean to say is, what a useless answer. The existential threat was more of an aside for emphasis not the main argument but to address it quickly, they *do* go for greater forces so idk what you’re talking about “treading carefully” (coming from the guy saying vigilantes should just start breaking necks essentially, imma lol) and as for the “failed repeatedly” part, that’s *always* been a part of any superhero dude. They know they *can’t* always save everyone, the *point* is that they keep trying no matter what. And most people (and thus the heroes) feel the ending of any life shouldn’t be decided by one person under rule of law. Could any hero decide suddenly to become Judge, Jury, and Executioner? Yes. How does that sound in practice though? That’s what I thought. “If I justify one, how many more will I justify?” Talk about treading carefully. Ps the hero you seem to be looking for started a regime in the Injustice universe.
Man, it’s really brave of everyone shitting on Batman that they can just kill someone that easily emotionally. Wait, I meant dangerously villainous.
@@Grey_World1 In the real world the feds and the CIA would have assassinated joker 100 times over
Your no-kill argument works for normal people. But NOT the Joker. Dude is literally the devil in human form. Every other one of Batman’s villains has some base level of humanity that gives them a chance at redemption, EXCEPT for the Joker. The whole “if he kills this one guy, he might as well kill everyone in the universe!” (((argument))) ONLY applies to Batman, because he’s insane, just as insane as the Joker, and that’s the kind of twisted logic his brain uses to justify his harmful morals. Punisher has killed basically every single one of his villains, and the Marvel universe hasn’t ended yet, so it’s obviously a Batman problem, not a killing problem.
Reminder that he actually killed Joker in TDKR, because, in his own words, “All the people I’ve killed… by letting you LIVE!” And the story doesn’t magically end after he kills him. Instead Batman moves on, because letting the Joker live was his biggest character flaw, and thus bringing himself to kill him without going insane himself is simply logical character development. It’s a grown man, putting aside his personal issues and trauma, in order to save countless people from an objective evil. In what world is that NOT good character development?
Joker would bop Punisher so hard in reality. Batman is like the only guy Joker deals with that isn't a murderer. He cows the entire underworld and other villains regularly and those guys kill.
None of those guys are disciplined though. And Joker just recently got chased out of Gotham by Riddler, Black Mask, and some other fools. They got tired of his foolishness, put guns on him and told him to beat it. Punisher would have that clown outlined in chalk his first day in Gotham, quick enough for it to make it on the evening news. I'm sure Vicky Vale would love to cover that story. lol
Batman and Joker are secretly in love with each other. ffs, batman casually lets Joker get away to kill more innocent people.
punisher is not a brawler he is a trained fbi agent. he knows cqc. another writer weakening a character so batman can beat him.
Batman has already beat the best trained soldiers the us government has.💀
figures it is a marvel made comic. lol joker wouldn't have been afraid, he is insane.
Just because he's insane doesn't mean he can't be afraid, and it's been confirmed in the Batman: Arkham game series that the Joker's biggest fear is being forgotten.
@@refiadria Also in the Animated Series he was terrified about being killed by a random nobody in an alleyway
@@rco7195 He is referring to the canon DC Joker if the main DC universe who has no fears.
@@katkit4281 he is scared. When Joker got Mr Mxp's powers, Superman tricks him into forgetting Batman and he was terrified. Joker's obsession with Batman is his fear. Red Hood didn't buy into Joker being insane because he knows Joker was actually lying about it and Joker stop smiling.
@@Amazingfilms148 In the comics The Scarecrow has tried using his fear toxin on Joker and found out it had no effect. It was said the only way this was possible is not f he had no fears. You are confusing someone totally obsessed with Batman for an actual fear.
Isn't punisher marvel?