Have booked to watch this at The Ronson Theatre until I can find good seats at BFI IMAX. Every performance I have checked until the end of March seem to be almost fully sold out already!
Good choice. I love the BFI IMAX for many reasons, but Dune 2 may be even better on The Ronson's dual-laser 1.43:1 GT digital IMAX compared to BFI's IMAX 70mm transfer.
@@Reason077 - Yes, The Ronson Theatre will be in 12-channel audio compared to only 6-channel at BFI IMAX in this instance and I’m expecting this movie to have epic sound.
That is another brilliant production Kim. I can see the amount of work, time and effort that went into it so I hope it proves to be another blockbuster for you. It certainly deserves to be. John.
Which did you prefer? I saw it at the BFI on Monday and have tickets booked for the Science Museum on Friday. I think the film is fantastic, the 70mm print was definitely not as high fidelity as Dunkirk, Interstellar or Oppenheimer but was still looked awesome on such a huge screen. I'm interested to see how the digital version compares.
Great video as always! I would argue the 70MM IMAX delivers slightly higher resolution, as it's basically compression free, and depending on what resolution they printed the reels in, it could deliver more than 4K The IMAX Dual Laser system uses a vertical anamorphic lens to desqueeze a 1.43 image packed in a 1.90 container, so you kinda see stretched pixels from the 4096 x 2160 container. 15/70 IMAX theoretically has more vertical resolution and detail, but since it's only printed from 4K DI (like the DRM prints from mid 2000s) and not a fully optical process like Oppenheimer, it could feel less sharp than Oppenheimer's 15/70 experience Furthermore, Dune 2 was shot and reformatted in all the different deliverables, certain 1.43 shots are cropped from the 1.90 version, and some scope shots have more width in the frame. It could be worth catching in Cineworld Leicester Square IMAX, as well as Odeon Leicester Square Dolby Cinema for Londoners!
Glad you like them! I loved "making of" and "behind the scenes" videos when I was I kid. Back in the days you were lucky to see something like this. Now is so easily accessible. Many Thanks for your donation!
fascinating content you are so lucky to be able to access behind the scenes in these theatres I would love to visit these cinemas some day your content makes me appreciate the convenience of just placing a disc in a player and watching a movie in my home cinema
Sadly, our local IMAX 70mm projector is still down after it broke at the very end of the Oppenheimer run, with the next closest not receiving a film print either. Lucky to at least have a dual laser system about 3.5 hours from me, will be my first time seeing a digital 1.43 showing!
I'm going to watch it 3 times :) I saw it first on opening day in my local IMAX, then had tickets for BFI on Monday as that was the earliest I could get them for, and have booked the Science Museum on Friday.
Travelled to London to watch it at the Ronson Theatre London Science Museum. Best cinema experience ever! Will be watching it again in a Dolby Cinema screen locally. @bored_tech have you seen it at both venues now? Will you be doing a follow up review and do you have a favourite?
I'm too watching it twice at both these venues; I was late for the BFI ticket release and the only showing I could get was a week after release date so I needed to get in on another showing on its actual first day release otherwise I'd die from the anxiety of having to wait for BFI and found out, to my surprise, the Ronson Theatre was practically empty. I have a feeling it's a hidden gem that people either have no idea exists or think it only shows documentaries.
I saw it at Showcase de Lux Southampton on XPLUS, which is a Barco 4K laser, 19.6m width projection with Dolby Atmos. Compared to a regular screen in the same cinema, it was noticeably brighter even with the bigger screen, and Atmos worked very well with Dune Part 2. All seats are electric recliners with feet rests, which made for a very comfortable experience.
Hi, love seeing your behind the scenes videos of the BFI and Science Museum. Something is confusing me though. I keep hearing that IMAX 1570 film is limited to only 6 channels of audio, but, if the audio is coming on a digital disc, then why is there a limit for the number of channels? It's not like the audio is printed on the 1570 film...
Best non IMAX I’ve been so far is at Battersea Power Station. Saw Dune 2 there and at Odeon West End. Screen and sound way better at Battersea - seats better at OWE tho
Watching this at my local grindhouse, the Cineplex Vaughan Colossus. Was debating between the 70mm print and the next-nearest full IMAX screen, Scotiabank Toronto’s dual laser.
Great video as always. Just came out of the 15/70 screening of Tenet at BFI avd we saw a new scene from Dune Part 2 . Absolutely amazing!! Alas the 70mm trailer print arrived too late to be spliced on to Tenet so it was DCP instead.
Yet another fantastic video, it's great to see the IMAX process being documented for us to see. Wish I lived close to one of these fantastic cinemas, unfortunately there are no such IMAX' screens in Ireland. I have tickets to Dune Part Two in IMAX Belfast which is a 1.43 screen that uses 1.90 single laser 4k projection. Still the sheer size of the screen and the power of the 12 channel sound makes it an experience like no other.
Really cool channel! Subscribed immediately. Regarding the film-out process mentioned at 3:21: That last step is very much needed, at least if they went about this the same way they did with Part 1. They captured digitally on Alexa, did all VFX-work on a digital master, went through a rough grading process, then transferred to 35 mm film, scanned that back into digital and then finally went through a proper grading session. So effectively what you‘ll be seeing on IMAX film will be limited to 4K resolution and feature a more pronounced grain structure than proper IMAX film would show. It’s a bit of an odd decision to transfer this to 15/70. The only benefit an analog print might have over the digital IMAX Laser version would be the slight increase in vertical resolution over IMAX‘s anamorphic digital projection as well as the absence of speckle. The aspect ratio thing is curious though. Why intercut with 1.90 if the entire thing is already shot spherically to begin with? I‘ll be watching it at the Karlsruhe IMAX in digital laser. The same town also features the old Schauburg cinema with a deeply curved cinerama screen and they‘ll be showing a 5/70 print so I might watch it twice as well, although I‘ll be loosing 1.43 in the 5/70 version.
they could do the 12 ch sound in on 70mm they would just have to mix the 2 the film with the digital presentiation it would take a new program just unhook the sonics ddp and hook up the new 12 channel system in it place then build a emulator to control it
Excellent video! I saw the first part in 3D in a US Imax theatre and it was impressive in spite of a lot of bad word-of-mouth on the internet, which appears to have had an influence on part 2 not being shown theatrically in 3D, which is too bad. I'll be curious to hear your opinion on the digital to 70mm transfer. it doesn't seem worth the expense to transfer a digitally shot movie to 70mm film unless that's the only way for some Imax theaters to offer it at its best.
Even before watching this excellent video, I planned to watch Dune: Part Two at both of these venues. Had hoped to do both on the same day but that doesn’t seem likely because of how well tickets at BFI IMAX have sold. Will likely opt for Dolby Cinema as my second viewing on the same day as The Ronson Theatre then do BFI IMAX as and when I can get good seats.
Amazing video as Always! I will go to see this in imax dual laser at uci orio in Italy, even if there the aspect ratio is 1.90. But planning to do a trip also to arcadia melzo for 70mm even if it's not imax there. They're both about 29 metres wide! Would love to see something like this at bfi or imax sciene museum in london with their 1.43 imax aspect ratio
It may be worth seeing Dune 2 on Dolby Cinema over at Odeon Leicester Square or Odeon West End also. The Dolby sound mix for the first Dune film was amazing: lots of 360-degree (eg: overhead) effects that aren't really possible with the IMAX 6-channel system.
Odeon Leicester Square no, the screen is too small. Odeon West End is one of my favourites - I saw the first DUNE there. I wonder will they project it in 2.39:1 or 1.90?
@@boredtech It would be amazing if any Dolby Cinema was able to show it in 1.90:1, but my understanding is that IMAX has contractual exclusivity on the 1.90:1 version. All other cinemas get 2.39:1.
@@boredtech Leicester Square's screen is almost as big as Odeon West End. It just _seems_ smaller because the cinema is so much bigger and the screen is further away! Personally I love them both for different reasons. Leicester Square is just so big and elegant, and you can sit on the upper tier which is pretty unique in London. Oppenheimer was fantastic on 70mm at Leicester Square!
I stayed up till late at night for when tickets released and had multiple devices in the queue. Unfortunately my first screening at the BFI IMAX was changed to IMAX Commercial Laser due to issues with the projector. I had a second screening for 12:50 the next day and got the email 2 hours before that the screening would also be shown in IMAX Laser instead. It was pretty frustrating as I had travelled from abroad for this. I decided to see it again at the Picturehouse Central London instead, in 5/70mm and right when I come out of that showing I get the news that the BFI had actually shown my screening on IMAX film. This was very frustrating and it honestly ruined how I view the BFI IMAX after having had great experiences travelling there multiple times last year. Science Musuem’s projection had no issue and it was pretty nice seeing the 1.43:1 AR but I prefer the screen at the BFI IMAX.
Hey, this usually means running a test or calibration sequence through the projector to ensure that the optical components, lenses, and other equipment are free from dust, dirt, or any other contaminants that could affect the quality of the projected image. The projectionist will also check and calibrate other aspects of the system, such as colour balance, focus, and alignment. Hope this helps! Great video as always @boredtech have reshared it to our community/social page :)
I'm sure it can be done, but when you calculate the cost of man hours, materials, the cost of equipment that have to be modified. Testing, that "new SYNC system" have to be super reliable. In the end it not worth the hustle probably. Maybe if they had a release of an movie on 70mm film every month...
Not sure I understand why it'd be so much more difficult to do, because the audio is supplied on a disc and then fed into the system. Or can't they store 12-track on the discs that are used? I confuse
This is what I think. If the audio is on a disk they can select the output of the audio to play from the Disc rather than the one that comes with the reel. and the audio from 70mm film is synced with the barcodes on the top of the film hence "70mm imax" its really shot on 65mm film and the extra 5mm comes from the green strip on the final product. @@Geoff_Dearth
it was the best movie I've ever seen dude. best soundtrack best watching experience. it moves you, breaks your heart, and inspires all at the same time. don't want to spoil anything but the music in the harkonnen arena is the best drums I've heard all my life. @@boredtech
So if the film was originally shot using 1:1.9 and then scanned onto 1:1.43 film (effectively letterboxing it, but as the director intended), does that mean that watching a 1:1.9 digital version is effectively letterboxed again?
Have booked to watch this at The Ronson Theatre until I can find good seats at BFI IMAX. Every performance I have checked until the end of March seem to be almost fully sold out already!
Good choice. I love the BFI IMAX for many reasons, but Dune 2 may be even better on The Ronson's dual-laser 1.43:1 GT digital IMAX compared to BFI's IMAX 70mm transfer.
how do you book it in the Ronson Theatre?
@@Vokon Google "Science Museum Ronson Theatre", click on the Dune banner and then "Book Now".
@@Vokon - Via their website.
@@Reason077 - Yes, The Ronson Theatre will be in 12-channel audio compared to only 6-channel at BFI IMAX in this instance and I’m expecting this movie to have epic sound.
That is another brilliant production Kim. I can see the amount of work, time and effort that went into it so I hope it proves to be another blockbuster for you. It certainly deserves to be.
John.
Thanks, travelling from Ireland to watch at the Science museum and the following day at BFI
Really appreciate your SUPER THANKS! Hope you enjoyed the movie! Let us know how it went.
Which did you prefer? I saw it at the BFI on Monday and have tickets booked for the Science Museum on Friday. I think the film is fantastic, the 70mm print was definitely not as high fidelity as Dunkirk, Interstellar or Oppenheimer but was still looked awesome on such a huge screen. I'm interested to see how the digital version compares.
I have a bit of a wait yet to see it. Wanted to get central seats so I am booked for the 17th in the Science museum and the 18th for BFI
Great video as always!
I would argue the 70MM IMAX delivers slightly higher resolution, as it's basically compression free, and depending on what resolution they printed the reels in, it could deliver more than 4K
The IMAX Dual Laser system uses a vertical anamorphic lens to desqueeze a 1.43 image packed in a 1.90 container, so you kinda see stretched pixels from the 4096 x 2160 container. 15/70 IMAX theoretically has more vertical resolution and detail, but since it's only printed from 4K DI (like the DRM prints from mid 2000s) and not a fully optical process like Oppenheimer, it could feel less sharp than Oppenheimer's 15/70 experience
Furthermore, Dune 2 was shot and reformatted in all the different deliverables, certain 1.43 shots are cropped from the 1.90 version, and some scope shots have more width in the frame. It could be worth catching in Cineworld Leicester Square IMAX, as well as Odeon Leicester Square Dolby Cinema for Londoners!
Hi KD Sir! Big fan of your works❤ Sir can you plz make a video about the Ghaziabad IMAX in your "Lost Theatres" Series?😊🙏🏻
I love watching these behind the scenes videos so thanks for making another! Looking forward to watching Dune: Part Two in just over a week :D
Glad you like them! I loved "making of" and "behind the scenes" videos when I was I kid. Back in the days you were lucky to see something like this. Now is so easily accessible.
Many Thanks for your donation!
I live in Hungary and we only have a xenon imax projector so we can't se it in 1: 43: 1. I am sad about it.
I alway wish that they would replay Dune part 1 in the theaters just before the release of Dune 2. It should be like that for all movies !
fascinating content
you are so lucky to be able to access behind the scenes in these theatres
I would love to visit these cinemas some day
your content makes me appreciate the convenience of just placing a disc in a player and watching a movie in my home cinema
Sadly, our local IMAX 70mm projector is still down after it broke at the very end of the Oppenheimer run, with the next closest not receiving a film print either. Lucky to at least have a dual laser system about 3.5 hours from me, will be my first time seeing a digital 1.43 showing!
Which theater?
I'm going to watch it 3 times :) I saw it first on opening day in my local IMAX, then had tickets for BFI on Monday as that was the earliest I could get them for, and have booked the Science Museum on Friday.
how was it?
Travelled to London to watch it at the Ronson Theatre London Science Museum. Best cinema experience ever! Will be watching it again in a Dolby Cinema screen locally. @bored_tech have you seen it at both venues now? Will you be doing a follow up review and do you have a favourite?
ohh i would love to see a follow up review as well!!
*"Available in limited theatres around the world."*
sad IMAX Prague noises
This time 70mm release is truly limited.
I'm too watching it twice at both these venues; I was late for the BFI ticket release and the only showing I could get was a week after release date so I needed to get in on another showing on its actual first day release otherwise I'd die from the anxiety of having to wait for BFI and found out, to my surprise, the Ronson Theatre was practically empty. I have a feeling it's a hidden gem that people either have no idea exists or think it only shows documentaries.
I saw it at Showcase de Lux Southampton on XPLUS, which is a Barco 4K laser, 19.6m width projection with Dolby Atmos. Compared to a regular screen in the same cinema, it was noticeably brighter even with the bigger screen, and Atmos worked very well with Dune Part 2. All seats are electric recliners with feet rests, which made for a very comfortable experience.
Saw the midnight screening at BFI IMAX in 70mm and it was incredible! Going the Science Museum next week too!
Nice, did you managed to get a good seats?
Hi, love seeing your behind the scenes videos of the BFI and Science Museum. Something is confusing me though. I keep hearing that IMAX 1570 film is limited to only 6 channels of audio, but, if the audio is coming on a digital disc, then why is there a limit for the number of channels? It's not like the audio is printed on the 1570 film...
I'm booked to watch both part 1 and part 2 in 1.43:1 at the printworks IMAX in Manchester. 12.0 channel audio!
I'm watching Dune part two at the Manchester Printworks IMAX. So excited!
Nice, I hope to visit Manchester Printworks one day.
@@boredtech yep, definitely when you're able to!
@@boredtechI don't like it. The seats are too far from the screen and are made of an uncomfortable material
Best non IMAX I’ve been so far is at Battersea Power Station. Saw Dune 2 there and at Odeon West End. Screen and sound way better at Battersea - seats better at OWE tho
Hello Bored Tech, another excellent video. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Watching this at my local grindhouse, the Cineplex Vaughan Colossus. Was debating between the 70mm print and the next-nearest full IMAX screen, Scotiabank Toronto’s dual laser.
It's not far from IMAX headquarters! I guess this cinema would be well supervised.
sobria y elegante sus reportajes, saludos desde Chile.
Great video as always. Just came out of the 15/70 screening of Tenet at BFI avd we saw a new scene from Dune Part 2 . Absolutely amazing!! Alas the 70mm trailer print arrived too late to be spliced on to Tenet so it was DCP instead.
That is awesome!
Yet another fantastic video, it's great to see the IMAX process being documented for us to see. Wish I lived close to one of these fantastic cinemas, unfortunately there are no such IMAX' screens in Ireland. I have tickets to Dune Part Two in IMAX Belfast which is a 1.43 screen that uses 1.90 single laser 4k projection. Still the sheer size of the screen and the power of the 12 channel sound makes it an experience like no other.
I'm glad that you liked the video!
Really cool channel! Subscribed immediately. Regarding the film-out process mentioned at 3:21: That last step is very much needed, at least if they went about this the same way they did with Part 1. They captured digitally on Alexa, did all VFX-work on a digital master, went through a rough grading process, then transferred to 35 mm film, scanned that back into digital and then finally went through a proper grading session. So effectively what you‘ll be seeing on IMAX film will be limited to 4K resolution and feature a more pronounced grain structure than proper IMAX film would show. It’s a bit of an odd decision to transfer this to 15/70. The only benefit an analog print might have over the digital IMAX Laser version would be the slight increase in vertical resolution over IMAX‘s anamorphic digital projection as well as the absence of speckle. The aspect ratio thing is curious though. Why intercut with 1.90 if the entire thing is already shot spherically to begin with?
I‘ll be watching it at the Karlsruhe IMAX in digital laser. The same town also features the old Schauburg cinema with a deeply curved cinerama screen and they‘ll be showing a 5/70 print so I might watch it twice as well, although I‘ll be loosing 1.43 in the 5/70 version.
Thank you
You Are Most Welcome!
Another great BTS of the tech behind the screen (or shall I say projector?!)
Cheers!
they could do the 12 ch sound in on 70mm they would just have to mix the 2 the film with the digital presentiation it would take a new program just unhook the sonics ddp and hook up the new 12 channel system in it place then build a emulator to control it
Excellent video! I saw the first part in 3D in a US Imax theatre and it was impressive in spite of a lot of bad word-of-mouth on the internet, which appears to have had an influence on part 2 not being shown theatrically in 3D, which is too bad. I'll be curious to hear your opinion on the digital to 70mm transfer. it doesn't seem worth the expense to transfer a digitally shot movie to 70mm film unless that's the only way for some Imax theaters to offer it at its best.
You are right, some theatres are only able to present movie 1.90:1 in digital but at the same time they are able to project 1.43:1 from film.
Even before watching this excellent video, I planned to watch Dune: Part Two at both of these venues. Had hoped to do both on the same day but that doesn’t seem likely because of how well tickets at BFI IMAX have sold. Will likely opt for Dolby Cinema as my second viewing on the same day as The Ronson Theatre then do BFI IMAX as and when I can get good seats.
Amazing video as Always! I will go to see this in imax dual laser at uci orio in Italy, even if there the aspect ratio is 1.90. But planning to do a trip also to arcadia melzo for 70mm even if it's not imax there. They're both about 29 metres wide!
Would love to see something like this at bfi or imax sciene museum in london with their 1.43 imax aspect ratio
It may be worth seeing Dune 2 on Dolby Cinema over at Odeon Leicester Square or Odeon West End also. The Dolby sound mix for the first Dune film was amazing: lots of 360-degree (eg: overhead) effects that aren't really possible with the IMAX 6-channel system.
Odeon Leicester Square no, the screen is too small. Odeon West End is one of my favourites - I saw the first DUNE there. I wonder will they project it in 2.39:1 or 1.90?
@@boredtech It would be amazing if any Dolby Cinema was able to show it in 1.90:1, but my understanding is that IMAX has contractual exclusivity on the 1.90:1 version. All other cinemas get 2.39:1.
@@boredtech Leicester Square's screen is almost as big as Odeon West End. It just _seems_ smaller because the cinema is so much bigger and the screen is further away! Personally I love them both for different reasons. Leicester Square is just so big and elegant, and you can sit on the upper tier which is pretty unique in London. Oppenheimer was fantastic on 70mm at Leicester Square!
Booked BFI IMAX at 8:30pm on March 1st, then Science Museum at 7:15pm on March 2nd!
Wow, how did you managed to get BFI IMAX tickets for 1st of march?
Let us know which cinema you enjoyed more?
I stayed up till late at night for when tickets released and had multiple devices in the queue. Unfortunately my first screening at the BFI IMAX was changed to IMAX Commercial Laser due to issues with the projector. I had a second screening for 12:50 the next day and got the email 2 hours before that the screening would also be shown in IMAX Laser instead. It was pretty frustrating as I had travelled from abroad for this. I decided to see it again at the Picturehouse Central London instead, in 5/70mm and right when I come out of that showing I get the news that the BFI had actually shown my screening on IMAX film. This was very frustrating and it honestly ruined how I view the BFI IMAX after having had great experiences travelling there multiple times last year. Science Musuem’s projection had no issue and it was pretty nice seeing the 1.43:1 AR but I prefer the screen at the BFI IMAX.
when you next visit can you ask what a "cleaning run" involves?
That's a good point! Will do!
Hey, this usually means running a test or calibration sequence through the projector to ensure that the optical components, lenses, and other equipment are free from dust, dirt, or any other contaminants that could affect the quality of the projected image. The projectionist will also check and calibrate other aspects of the system, such as colour balance, focus, and alignment.
Hope this helps! Great video as always @boredtech have reshared it to our community/social page :)
Why cant you have 12chanel play with the 70mm film and not use the disk for the 70mm? Im sure it could be synced up?
If you have both the film and the digital version*
I'm sure it can be done, but when you calculate the cost of man hours, materials, the cost of equipment that have to be modified. Testing, that "new SYNC system" have to be super reliable. In the end it not worth the hustle probably.
Maybe if they had a release of an movie on 70mm film every month...
Not sure I understand why it'd be so much more difficult to do, because the audio is supplied on a disc and then fed into the system. Or can't they store 12-track on the discs that are used? I confuse
This is what I think. If the audio is on a disk they can select the output of the audio to play from the Disc rather than the one that comes with the reel. and the audio from 70mm film is synced with the barcodes on the top of the film hence "70mm imax" its really shot on 65mm film and the extra 5mm comes from the green strip on the final product.
@@Geoff_Dearth
Fantastic video great job
Thank you very much!
1.43:1 screen is my choice.
Once 1.43:1 always 1.43:1
Ask them what is the crossover frequency for the sub bass in IMAX 12.0
Great Video!
got my tickets for 1:43 ratio in Indianapolis. center of the theater. can't wait.
That's really good! Tell us how it went!
it was the best movie I've ever seen dude. best soundtrack best watching experience. it moves you, breaks your heart, and inspires all at the same time. don't want to spoil anything but the music in the harkonnen arena is the best drums I've heard all my life. @@boredtech
What is my custom saints row character doing on youtube
So if the film was originally shot using 1:1.9 and then scanned onto 1:1.43 film (effectively letterboxing it, but as the director intended), does that mean that watching a 1:1.9 digital version is effectively letterboxed again?
Arri Alexa LF resolution is 4448 x 3096 which means that it can capture 1.43:1 footage.
Unfortunately this movie was not filmed with IMAX cameras
yes, it was.
@@nick1635 nope. Filmed for IMAX** not good same quality
Thank you
You're welcome!