DUNE PART TWO: REACTION & REVIEW 70mm IMAX
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- I finally had the time to get to see Denis Villeneuve's second instalment in his DUNE series and it had to be at the BFI IMAX where they had one of the twelve 15/70 IMAX prints exhibited throughout the world. The fact that there are 15/70 prints is significant as it confirms the impact that Christopher Nolan's OPPENHEIMER had in 2023 which the film industry is now looking to take advantage of. I'm told DUNE PART TWO has been another big success for the BFI and with similar reports coming from genuine IMAX houses around the world it comes as no surprise that there are apparently new productions coming which will be including genuine IMAX sequences shot 15/65 fro 15/70 release.
This video documents my experience of seeing DUNE PART TWO at one of the greatest cinemas in the world today. It is also my review of the film where I also detail some of the technicalities and particularly why I think a blow-up from a 4K digital video master to standard 70mm and the ultimate 15/70 is worthwhile.
We also talk to Hardik who is currently studying in the UK from India. Hardik is another true film enthusiast and he's excited to be able to see these 15/70 prints at the BFI IMAX. His first experience was TENET a few months ago but he's also impressed with the results from the 15/70 blow-up of DUNE PART TWO.
Finally, we have a FILM IS FABULOUS event coming up at The Courtyard Cinema in Hereford which I detail towards the end of this video. I'll be on a panel discussion about the Film Is Fabulous project, how we are saving films and how it is that film collectors have often proved to be the saviours of so many films that otherwise would have been lost from the world forever. To purchase tickets for this event on 1st JUNE 2024 click on the link here to the Hereford Courtyard: www.courtyard.org.uk/events/f...
To learn all about FILM IS FABULOUS and the pilot study currently ongoing as I type, click here: filmisfabulous.org.uk/
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Hey that's me...thanks for having me on the show. It was nice finally meeting you.
You were brilliant Hardik. I thought about how to showcase your part the best I could and that's why I ended up cropping the image and putting you next to the shots of the screen and auditorium. I think it helped focus on what you were telling us all. Well done! And great to meet you.
John.
Watched this three times at the cinema. IMAX with Laser GT (1.43:1) at The Ronson Theatre. IMAX with Laser GT (1.90:1) at Cineworld, Leicester Square. And Dolby Cinema at Odeon Luxe, West End. Enjoyed it each and every time. 😎
Thank you John .
I wish you'd included the BFI IMAX as one of those screenings Cheekster because then you could have let us all know which you thought was best. John.
@@moviecollector5920 - I’m not currently a member and I find that the tickets get snapped up well before mere mortals have access to them for most popular movies.
I agree with your opinion of the film as a whole, but I did have a great time experiencing the film in IMAX at Lincoln Square, New York City. It's the largest IMAX screen in the United States, and what a rush! The sand worm sequence was exhilarating and the sound design just mind-blowing. In the end, it's still a really good sci-fi epic. But not capital G Great in my opinion.
Lincoln Square must be one of the other 12 cinemas lucky enough to be able to screen an IMAX print. Well done for getting to see it. John.
Was in NY last week and sadly Dune was already out of the IMAX rotation there. I‘ve seen Guardians of the Galaxy 2 there years ago and it was a great experience.
@@foxyfoxtrot4233 You've got to be sure you're seeing a 15/70 IMAX shot 15/65 as nothing else comes close. The Guardians of the Galaxy films weren't IMAX as far as I know. They might have had the name but that was probably just the use of the name to get people in. The trouble is that people then think they've seen IMAX which they certainly haven't. Look at the astounding image quality of TENET, DUNKIRK or OPPENHEIMER and all the faux IMAX movies pale to insignificance by comparison. Please let me know if you do ever manage to see the real McCoy sometime Foxy as I'd like to know your thoughts... which should be somewhat positive!
John.
@@moviecollector5920well the guardian’s of the galaxy movies are filmed on digital and not really genuine imax
This is what I've been waiting for!!! Another great video, keep up the great work!
Thank you SamDune! John.
Hey there, this is Chris from Oregon and just wanted to give ya an update! I had the chance to see Dune 2 on 15/70MM at Universal Cinema Citywalk in Hollywood CA, it was such an experience indeed and thank goodness it doesn’t look as artificial when I saw Napoleon 70MM since they did a “digital to print” during production like the same way with The Batman since it’s the same cinematographer.
Also seeing Once Upon A Time In Hollywood from Tarantino’s personal print was an absolute joy. There was some bonus scenes/pre intro before the film started including an Red Apples cigarette commercial and an extended episode of Bounty Law with Michael Madsen as a cameo!
It definitely beats the lie-max option at my home state and I’ll fly back again when there will be another 15/70MM showing and a TRUE shot on 15/70MM IMAX film! I will at least fly back around July for my 26th birthday and I’ll be going to see Deadpool And Wolverine with my best friend. One will be at the world fan event Disney theater premiere called the El Capitan which is an old landmark broadway theater from the 1920s. Even Citizen Kane premiered there.
it’s one of the expensive movie ticket I ever purchased costing over $60 USD per person…but it comes with popcorn with a collectible tin, drink merch etc while I heard they’re supposed to make it an experience by seeing costume props, photo opportunities and I even heard a celebrity cameo so we shall see. I haven’t been into a marvel movie since Spider Man No Way Home and Deadpool And Wolverine certainly isn’t a bad birthday present to get. Can’t lie either the inner geek within me is excited to see Jackman in the original comic costume.
The second place I’ll be seeing it at finally will be The Chinese Theater itself so I can cross off the bucketlist. This time instead of comparing on the video quality, I’m gonna compare to the speakers. The El Capitan is equipped with Dolby Vision and Atmos while the Chinese has an IMAX 12 channel speaker with 4K dual laser. Definitely won’t be Nolan or Denis level of quality of course but it’s something.
Now I’m just waiting on Tarantino’s theater to release the July movie schedule as well as the other landmark showings like the Egyptian theater. Suffice to say it is gonna be a fun birthday trip nonetheless despite not being Oppenheimer/Dune quality, but the Tarantino prints will make up for it!
It seems to me Chris that you're living the cinema experience we had up until the latter part of the 1990's when it all started turning to xxxx! I've been into the El Capitan on Hollywood Boulevard if that's the 'El Capitan you're talking about. A great cinema but back when I was in there it was top quality because it was a premiere theatre screening master prints and also boasting a THX sound system. Those were the days. The new Deadpool & Wolverine release probably isn't a film but the trailer was run at the BFI IMAX prior to Dune Part Two and it didn't look too bad. I don't think it looked as appealing as the new Mad Max spin-off Furiosa. What a shame we can only see any of these movies video projected but that's how they're shot and although the quality isn't quite up to 35mm yet there would be little point in outputting the 4K video master files to 35mm as the expense would preclude that and there wouldn't be much - if any - benefit of doing so.
Have a good time with all your ongoing cinematic adventures Chris. I'm off to the Hereford Courtyard next Saturday to see these 16mm televsion programmes from the 1960's the team have saved. They've been transferred to video for screening on the day as we can't risk the sole surviving copies of these previously lost pieces of television history.
John.
@@moviecollector5920Fury Road is the only movie I’ve brought myself to bring five times in theaters cause the sound mixing and the adrenaline rush is pure amazing. I went to see Furiosa on the very first showing on Cinemark XD with THX Certified speakers which is the highest quality we can get in the state and suffice to say even with Miller being 80 years old, he still has the spirits of filmmaking. It is too bad we don’t have the options for seeing it on 35MM or on celluloid but that doesn’t mean it can happen once in a blue moon. My friend got to see Fury Road on 35MM at Tarantino’s theater and recently A24’s Civil War was shown on 35MM at the vista theater. I also saw The First Omen on 35MM at my indie theater so I guess it just depends what film they’re willing to print out for. But in the end I’m sure ready for my trip!!!
And yes it is the same El Capitan on Hollywood! Disney did a whole renovation to it and luckily found the original 1920s and paint decor so they made sure to keep it to the original look as possible! There’s also a pipe organ built in which they play before every screening. If they done a fan event for Furiosa that would be badass but too bad they ain’t Disney to pull that type of stuff like that lol.
Going out of country and visiting the UK is definitely on my list and if the schedule aligns perfectly I’ll be sure to stop by on your film fest activities or hope to catch you at a BFI imax showing!
Been looking forward to this, thanks, John.
You're welcome Boss. John.
I'm glad you've come around to Dune (I'm a big Denis V fan).
This one is the most enjoyable of the Denis Villeneuve movies I've seen so far. It helps when the screen is 85 feet wide though.
John.
i saw Dune Part Two in nearest digital IMAX cinema. I think most of the scenes were in 1.9:1 ratio if I remember correctly. What I do remember very well is the terrific sound. I don't recall seeing any other movie that sounded as heavy as Dune 2.
The sound is fabulous. I'm not sure it's as good as TENET but I suppose we'd have to watch both at the BFI IMAX in concurrent screenings to judge that for sure. Now there's an idea!
John.
Cracking film, theres a great book release as well called the artwork of dune 2. Absolutely incredible settings and design 👌
I expect there will be some extremely interesting material as extra features on the Blu-ray disc when it arrives in a few weeks time too. John.
Great review, thanks for all of your incredible insights and knowledge.
Thank you Bob. John.
Glad you got to see it! You're right, it did look more like film than digital, which gave it a really different look and feel to the first time I saw it in digital. Can't wait to finally catch Dunkirk in 15/70!
DUNKIRK is a brilliant 15/70 Gordon. The BFI IMAX have a screening scheduled and when I looked yesterday there were still plenty of seats left. Not so with INTERSTELLAR though which sold out in about half an hour.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 yeah, I felt very lucky to bag Interstellar 15/70 during its last showing at the BFI. I joined BFI specifically to get a few hours head start on those tickets! It was one of my best cinema experiences.
Watched it in 1570 at the fantastic Melbourne imax cinema. What an almost overwhelming sensory overload. I have the 4k on preorder but will definitely be keeping an eye out for 1570 re screenings.
The 15/70 film prints are likely the best way to enjoy this film but I do wonder if it might look better in the 2.40:1 frame ratio. I guess we'll find out soon with the 4K discs but that will likely only make itself obvious in home cinemas with variable masking to maximize the widescreen format over the flat 1.85:1 ratio.
Good to know Melbourne are still using film whenever possible. The tenth anniversary of INTERSTELLAR should result in screenings of that providing Melbourne still have their 15/70 print. If you haven't seen that in genuine 15/70 IMAX then prepare for the ultimate cinema experience ever.
John.
Another great video John! Will definitely be attending the event this Saturday, it’s so cool to see something like this in my home town, will be a real fascinating afternoon, looking forward to it!
Make sure you come and say "hello" and remind me that we've been communicating on here for some time. It should be a lot of fun. You'll like Steve Rowley who will be in the panel discussion with me. He's hopefully bringing a D:150 lens along which we think is a solution for cinemas across the world today. You always have to look to the past for solutions today as there's never anything new under the sun. When Dimension 150 was introduced it was too soon after Cinerama... that's my take on why it didn't succeed in 1977/78 anyway.
John.
Love this special cinema ... never tire of the sense of expectation! Raj and I were happy to be able to see Dunkirk in 70mm at Odeon Leicester Square followed by an IMAX copy at BFI. IMAX was superior for sure! Your enthusiasm for film is crystal clear John!❤
They're releasing dates for a plethora of 15/70 prints at the moment Keith so if you fancy another special occasion then keep an eye on their web site... or alternatively, avoid all contact and thereby avoid the expense and perhaps then keep enough to pay the next electricity bill!
Hope you're fighting fit again now and Raj is looking after you satisfactorily.
John.
I traveled 400km each way in Germany to see Dune Part 2 on laser IMAX, sadly plane tickets to London were not in the budget, still an amazing experience, so much better than my local cinema where I saw it immediately at release.
I'm pleased to learn that even the faux IMAX houses are offering superior quality Furudal. As for a plane ticket to London there's no need... just get yourself a dinghy and sail over here like everyone else does. You'll even get free board and lodging and a load of money to boot!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 the Laser Imax is certainly an order of magnitude better than your average Cinema. Also, as you mentioned, the Sound is something different in a IMAX cinema, and this film really takes advantage of such a capable system
As for the other issue you mentioned, I feel you! It is not any better here on the continent.
Fantastic work John.... looking forward to part 2 myself 👍
I think I enjoyed it more than the first film Roy but it helps when the screen is 85 feet wide! John.
Amazing and fantastic video, John. The film is superb, what a stunning visually experience.
The image quality could have been better Juanjo but that would have meant shooting on film and there aren't enough technicians left too capable of that. But it did look very good in places despite only being a 4K video. Quite surprisingly good at times in fact. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Couple of bits of positive news are that two films released in 2025 are being shot on IMAX 70mm and will get releases on the format: a currently untitled 'Vampire Action Movie' directed by Ryan Coogler (Creed, Black Panther) and Flowervale Street, a Sci-Fi Action Movie directed by David Mitchell (It Follows).
I think the simplest way I can explain the power of grain is that it's constant and random movement creates a feel of reality because something 'alive' is set to the images we're looking at.
That's a good summary David. You always seem to come up with great little pearls of wisdom. Could it be that our own vision is very much like film grain owing to the rods and cones that make up the vision on our retinas?
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks, John! Just what I've noticed. I found a 35mm screening of Blade to have a lot of floating aspects in the print and actually reminded me of looking through running water for its naturalness. It definitely worked at tricking the mind that I was looking through a window. And that one sticks in the mind for that. That's an interesting observation about the interior of the eye. Maybe it is all subconscious.
@@davidjames579 Digital video is inherently clinical to look at but there has been some successful work in the past few years to make it look more like film. I think there is a misconception that brightest is best and that is a major factor in why so many cinemas project too bright. That's certainly the case with home video collectors whereas I tend to have our laser video projector set to 50% brightness which is the lowest setting. Film projectors have the mechanical shutter and the film itself diffusing the light so there's just so much more going on and it somehow all works better. It does to my eyes anyway. Not always but providing it's a good film print - and I'm talking about 35mm but the larger film formats and there's rarely any competition from video projection even if there have been a few exceptions. 15/70 and there's no competition at all.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I wonder if Digital Projectors could be fitted with a shutter, maybe as an optional extra. I'm sure there's a market for it.
Really great John, not been to London Imax yet, but will be soon, thanks for keeping the magic alive..
They are scheduling a whole lot of 15/70 screenings around July I think so keep an eye on what is going on. And sign up to their email newsletter just so you keep in touch... although that might force you to head to London sometimes. John.
like everyone else here i've LOVED every video of yours and watch / rewatch your channel obessively! this was one of my favourite episodes EVER!! thank you for everything and all you do in keeping the dream of cinemas alive!! we are all so grateful!! ✨🙏🙌✨
Very kind of you Elliot. If all goes well the Film Is Fabulous/BFCC team may help to educate the film industry how to turn the tide of the terminal decline cinema has been in for the past 20 years or so. I'm hoping we'll make a start at the event in Hereford. John.
I loved David Lynch’s version on first release.
I will get around to watch the new version- it’s in my list.
Great video as always.
I haven't seen the David Lynch film since it was in the cinema but I do want to again now. I have a feeling I'll like it a whole lot more the second time around. John.
@@moviecollector5920 The Prince Charles sometimes screen a 70mm blow-up.
On the the 12th of April I went to the cinema to watch Dune Part 2 in IMAX. It was my first IMAX experience, and it was a magnificent experience. The movie was fantastic and the picture and sound quality was also top notch. After this positive expirience I went about to buy Dune Part I, and part 2 will also be purchased in the near future. In regard to trilogies and two - part sequels, we have to judge the individual movies in the context of series. I remember the debates around the Matrix trilogy about which movie was best etc. etc. But you really have to see them in context and that also goes for the recent controversial Star Wars movies sequels as well.
DUNE PART TWO isn't exactly what I would call a genuine IMAX Thomas but the process of blowing up the 4K digital video to 15/70 has given it more kudos than a mere 4K video projection. If you want to see IMAX in its purest form then keep an eye our for screenings of movies such as TENET, DUNKIRK, OPPENHEIMER and INTERSTELLAR which have a lot of scenes shot 15/65 for genuine 15/70 prints. They do have to be seen projected 15/70 though otherwise so much of the astounding quality is lost. not all cinemas boasting the IMAX name are 15/70 capable with only around 30 in the world that I know of having had the foresight to keep the ultimate film projection equipment all these years. And they're all certainly reaping the benefits of that foresight today with sell out houses for so many screenings of these films.
John.
I absolutely loved Dune part 2, I'm glad you got to see it at the BFI! I saw it 3 times at the BFI and Science Museum and will probably see it again if it is shown again in the future.
I got a notification from HMV yesterday that my 4K pre-order is on its way, so looking forward to seeing how the 4K compares to the film and digital IMAX versions.
I suspect that DUNE PART TWO is going to give a better impact in the 'Scope frame Nick so I'll be interested to see if I feel that same when I do finally get the 4K disc. Nothing is ever going to compare to the BFI screening but as a home video, I think the 2.40:1 frame will suit it best... at least in my home cinema so I don't have all that aspect ratio shifting. The shifting is a bit of a problem in here because to get the 1.78:1 sequences to have the full impact I have to reduce the width of the screen and I prefer to project movies at the screen's widest setting. For Oppenheimer I put a matte in front of the porthole to mask off the top and left the side masking fully open thereby giving a ratio of about 2.0:1 for the 1.78:1 sequences.
John.
Great review
Thank you Steffy. John.
Fantastic job
Thank you Paul. John.
I love your theory about why we get natural-looking imagery with film projection. It's a great theory.
Erik.
Doug Trumbull detailed the mechanical shutter reason in Rob Murphy's documentary 'Splice Here: A Projected Odyssey' but I don't recall anyone else suggesting the actual print diffusing the light.
We just watched the 4K of 'One From The Heart' which we hadn't seen before. An interesting film that is going to take some thinking about to conclude how I really feel about it.
John.
Thanks for the (as usual) great video! I think Dune is a very tough book to bring to film but I think Denis Villeneuve and team have done a fantastic job. These are real movie-fans‘ movies. Would have loved to catch it on IMAX.
If you can see it anywhere with a huge screen I think it will do the trick. |t's not the best looking movie of all time but that 85 foot screen certainly helps. Then you add the best sound system I've ever heard and it's the finishing touch. But as long as there's good bass in any cinema I think this one will sound pretty terrific. John.
Hello John, I love your content. I get excited whenever I see a new video from you. I do have a request, could you do an exposè on director David Lean? Would love your opinion on the man and how his films have impacted you.
I'm not exactly the biggest David Lean fan Jay but I do think very highly of Lawrence of Arabia. Film making is a collaborative process though and I suspect Mr. Lean took credit for everything wherever he could when the facts were quite likely somewhat different. I think Mr. Kubrick was similar in that regard. If I can ever get the 4K disc of Lawrence of Arabia then I'll likely to a review video.
John.
Hello John, ‘it’s not unusual to’ enjoy your informative posts. A+ as always, thank you. Btw, I won’t be able to attend your upcoming TV film prints event as my mother passed away this week so I’ll be working through the necessary, step by step. Thank you and looking forward to your next post/review. Cheers.
Sorry to learn of your sad news Stephen. My ol' dad died about two months ago and it causes a lot of work in addition to the angst of going through it all. I'll have to try to shoot a video at the Hereford event but the team are going to record the panel discussion anyway so that will turn up somewhere. I must remember to behave myself for that.
Good luck with getting your mother's funeral and estate fully sorted. I hope it's not too cumbersome a process but it's bound to be a very upsetting time.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you for your message, John. Very much appreciated…
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the sound at the BFI Imax is as important if not more important than the screen. It is as important for the transformation of the experience.
I think a TENET may still be better for sound (certainly for picture) but having thought about it some more it's possible that DUNKIRK might pip it for sound too. We'll just have to watch them all at the BFI IMAX at a special event where all 15/70 prints kept in house are shown over a long weekend or something. Well, we can all dream.
John.
It be interesting to see when the new imax cameras become available more film makers will go to use these cameras rather than using digital
I'm hopeful the new cameras will facilitate dialogue sequences so that complete films can be made in the real McCoy and we won't have all the aspect ratio shifting.
John.
Superb ❤
Thank you darkalo1984. John.
I live it,breath it,love it and thank you once again for a most enjoyable jaunt around the beautiful Imax at Waterloo hope to be back when theres a genuine imax showing.Intersteller on the top of my list. Cheers.
Graham down Mexican way.
Good evening Graham. An extra screening of INTERSTELLAR was announced this afternoon via a mailshot from the BFI IMAX. Half an hour later I took a look and there was one seat left! Genuine IMAX houses with these prints are sitting on a gold mine!
John.
Thanks John only just read your reply. They could keep on showing Interstellar once a month and fill the house.
Looking forward to the reopening of the IMAX in Bradford my very first adventure into the format back when it all started in the UK.Plus it's also a very nice auditorium. Very near to where my sister lives in Lancashire.In the other direction the Manchester print works IMAX. How blessed we are in the UK as we are a very strong movie loving nation. Could be over there again soon looking forward.
@@hildamontes6146 Apparently Bradford is looking to re-open early next year Graham. If you do get over again this year then make sure you're on the email list for the BFI IMAX because they are announcing screenings of many 15/70 prints that they have stored there as part of their 25th birthday. INTERSTELLAR has proved to be a sensation. Ten years on and it will still sell out a 500 seater over and over again.
John.
Hey John, another great video. What would you say are the best seats for the BFI IMAX?
The back two rows which are the most expensive. The important thing is that you have so much leg room in the back two rows. I've sat right in the front far right seat and still been astounded by the show so anywhere is good but if you prefer to take in the whole image as easily as possible then the further back you are the better. If you want to feel like you're fully immersed in the image on screen then close to the front is recommended. Above all, make sure you are going to see a film with genuine IMAX 15/70 sequences. Get registered on the BFI IMAX mailing list and have a look for what they've got coming because they're announcing a whole lot of genuine 15/70 films at the moment for the 25th anniversary of the glass palace.
John.
Brilliant video John.
I thought you were on holiday Michael. I would have emailed you but didn't want to risk interrupting. I tried to capture the thrill of seeing a 'reel' film at the BFI IMAX with this one and I think I came close this time around. It's not exactly Nolan quality but filling that huge screen with that unrivalled sound system makes it special.
John.
Hi John, yes I'm on holiday but catching up on my favourite RUclips channel.
@@michaelford4460 Ho ho! I hope that bloke isn't ruining your time off.
Hi John, great video! I preferred part 1 to part 2 to be honest, Your video has inspired me to go to the BFI IMAX (never been) and I will be now keeping an eye on what is showing there! Thanks for all your great content!
If you do get to the BFI IMAX make sure you're heading for a 15/70 IMAX and preferably one that was shot 15/65 so it's the real deal. They are announcing screenings for a whole raft of them at the moment so get on their mailing list which is free and keeps you up to date. INTERSTELLAR was announced today and when I checked half an hour later there was a solitary seat left unsold right down the front and that was it.
John.
Thanks John, would have loved to see Interstellar but sure it’ll come back at some point! Thank you for the pointers and I will sign up now 👍🏻
Hi John, it surprisingly it makes total sense to present a movie like Dune 2 in 15/70mm, due to the disadvantages of IMAX Dual 4K Laser GTs.
Compaired to the 4K Dual Laser Screenings for 1.43 Screens, where you have 4.096 x 2.160 total resolution, vertically (2.160) the image is streched by amount of 32% with the anamorphic lens in the Projector permanently.. SO, in 1.43 Scenes you have max. 2.160 Pixels from top to bottom of the screen, in the rest 1.9 Scences, only (68% vertically) is used, that's only 1.470 Pixels vertically on the gigant screen in 1.9.
To remember, the Camera used, Alexa LF in Opengate Mode for 1.43 Scenes, has 4.608 x 3.164 Resoultion, so that 10 year, stone old IMAX 4K Dual Laser System is not capable of showing (very needed) more than a third of the Source Resolution.
Here the much more suited 50 Year old 15/70mm Technology comes into play, were the Kodak Cinevator 8K is optical printing all digital Information available to an ultra detailed Kodak 2383 Print Film.
At second, the 70mm Dune 2 Picture must be more clear on the Screen not only because of more Information, but also because the insufficient Dual 4K Laser System is projecting with half a Pixel Overlay next to each other, with results in a "softer" little smudgier Picture to "pretend/perceived" more Information, which is BS of course.
We don't even talk about the asthetics of real Film on a screen, with real (fine) grain and film color Interpretation :-) Cheers, Michael
Thank you Michael. This is all so informative and such valuable information that I'm going to pin it to the top. Not so much because everyone will then be able to see it but more because I'll be able to re-read it a few times and hopefully eventually fully understand it all! John.
Hi! Thanks for the information. I was surprised when you said the GT is 10 years old. When the BFI IMAX closed for refurbishments in Oct 2022 they said they were installing a new Digital Laser projector. As I heard the previous one was 2K. Did they really install a 10 year old 4K projector rather than a new 4K?
@@davidjames579 Hi David, the age of the Technology, the Idea of the IMAX 4K Dual Laser, to combine Barco DP4K-60L "on steroids" with a custom IMAX own Laser-Lightsource, was developed in 2014 and sold since 2015. There is no new 6K or 8K DLP Chip, nothing new since then. Nothing that can even come close to 15/70mm. The BFI made 3 historicalk brilliant Descisions at one time,
1. to keep the 1570 GT in center Position
2. to get only the Single 4K Laser "Cola" Model due to space reasons
3. the 4K Cola Model has no pixel overlay and is pin-sharp, more than a Dual Installation
@@moviecollector5920 You're welcome John. please let me know if something is unclear. A digital 1.43 Presentation is massive stretched vertically. If there is a format change during the movie, a much less amount of pixels are used on the projector. Even if some 1.9 Screens were shot with 6,5K Alexa 65, the Projector can only show about 1,4K vertically with an activated anamorph. glas element
Barco made everything correct, the DP4K-60L maxes out out 20mx10m with it's max own Lightsource. As i always say, this is also the absolute max width for 4K Resolution. IMAX makes than a Frankenstein Version of the Projector. Anamorphic Lens Element (needs more Light), bigger Screen Sizes to fit (more light needed) which was only achieveable with 2x Projectors (expensive) and an own Laser. The lack of sufficient Resolution over 20m width, which is the Core of the whole IMAX Idea cannot be neglected. Still, for digital cinema it the best (and biggest) you can get
@@mixdown78 Thanks for answering! I didn't realise that the technology hadn't been updated. That's interesting what you say about the Cola being sharper than a Dual. I thought it was just me, but I find Dual Laser IMAX to not be as in a word 'pleasing' to look at as Single. I couldn't work out why.
Hi John! Glad to see you enjoyed this I did get to see it at the cinema finally and was really happy. I will buy the 4k for sure as well. So again thanks I always love to get a look at your BFI Imax in London. We have a 15/70 imax here approx half hr drive away and Furiosa will begin this weekend so gonna check it out. The idea of a rerelease of Interstellar would be great but not sure if we will be lucky here to get a screening of it so... fingers crossed... have a great weekend and my best to u guys over there! Cheers D !
The video projection of the trailer to FURIOSA was exceptionally good quality so I think you'll like what you see Dave. I'm almost tempted to try out a local cinema for it but sadly I know that would be a disappointment so I'll probably wait to see it in superior quality in our little home cinema here via 4K disc. INTERSTELLAR is getting a re-release as it's coming up to its tenth birthday. If your local genuine IMAX still has one of the prints on site then I think you'll get your chance. But get on their email list because the BFI IMAX listed a screening yesterday afternoon for sometime in the next couple of months and it sold out in about half an hour.
John.
5:42 wondering if there is some subs behind that back wall ? is it absorbent , yes does it seem like if touching it with hand going around it seem like a few subs behind it ?
I must ask the next time I get the chance Andy. I suppose it could be that there's so many bass drivers around the auditorium that everything rumbles and shakes a bit like Sensurround. John.
I agree with your sentiments - and I drove from Glasgow to Manchester to see Dune Pt 2... only to discover it was 4K only - not what I expected, so that was a disappointment. If only Printworks had a proper film copy - it was OK, but Dunkirk it wasn't!
It wasn't Dunkirk at the BFI IMAX Raymond but that was to be expected. I don't know what would look better in reality but if film prints hadn't have been struck I wouldn't have gone to see it so it got me off my backside and into a cinema. Apparently there are whole load of productions currently that are utilizing genuine IMAX sequences. The film industry has woken up after the success of OPPENHEIMER.
John.
Hi John, you are always a treat, lisning to you, and your reviews, about movies. We got an IMAX cinema in Denmark thank god, I just saw Furiosa, was it good?yes, was it great, i think so, the IMAX was really fantastic. Also saw Dune 2 in IMAX, that was just as good, the sound was mabey the best I have ever heard.🎉
There isn't an IMAX cinema in Denmark James so what you have there is one of the faux IMAX houses. Even the genuine ones (only about 30 or so in the world) can't screen Furiosa in IMAX as it's a video so what you're watching is a digital video projection through an IMAX branded video projector. The maximum resolution for any of the faux IMAX houses is just over 4K so about 1\15th the quality of a genuine IMAX film such as OPPENHEIMER. DUNE PART TWO is a 4K video printed onto 15/70 film. I don't know the exact process for how this was done but as some of the movie was shot at 6.5K it's possible that the 1.43:1 sequences might have been output at that size for the IMAX film prints. 6.5K is actually estimated to be superior resolution capability to 35mm which itself is about one tenth the resolution capability of 15/70. The sheer size of 15/70 is what makes the image quality so astoundingly good. Nothing else comes close providing the film was shot 15/65 for 15/70 release. 70mm prints have the extra 5mm added for the soundtracks but that's superfluous now as the sound is run in sync' from a computer via a code on the film itself.
Sorry this is a long reply but I wanted to fill you in on what IMAX really is and how it has been downgraded in more recent years other than in the 30 (ish) genuine IMAX cinemas. It would help if all the myriad different versions had different identities or names. Maybe I'll see you in London one day for the real IMAX experience.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes there is, in the city of Aarhus, so please try check it out again.
Ok . That's a letdown.😔
Ok John, it isn't 70mm IMAX. Thank you for your answer.
And John, I would love that, to see how it really looks.😇👍📽🎬
John, could I ask a quick question, would you say laserdisc quality is similar to DVD or better/worse, thinking of adding the media to my collection, thank you..
To start with the best LaserDiscs could rival DVD but sadly the 16x9 anamorphic solution first developed for LaserDisc never made it onto the market as far as I know. This makes a big difference. Another big difference is that equipment has changed and whereas tellies in the 1990's were perfect for LaserDisc, now they're crap for LaserDisc. I do still have a video projector with a proper AV input on it and LD is best on that out of everything I still have to view videos with. So the answer to your question is DVD is generally superior and because of upscaling HDMI technology DVD is often far superior and almost to Blu-ray standard. But there's something special about LaserDisc that nothing else has ever quite matched and I think it's the wonderful packaging and the huge silver discs. But if you can find either of the ABBA Gold LaserDiscs then you'll find the discs are actually gold.
John.
I caught Dune 2 at our local digital IMAX a little while ago here in the US. I have to agree with you that the picture, while stunning at times, was not the highlight for me. It was the sound! I’ve never felt a movie soundtrack with more impact than I experienced there. Yes, it was loud, but it was balanced and immersive. I would have loved to see this on 70/15, but the drive to the closest film IMAX screen is over 3 hours away from me. It sounds like you are truly blessed to have all those IMAX choices around you! Cheers from across the pond. :-)
Three hours is worth it for a genuine IMAX Eric so if you get the chance to see any of the four or five most recent Christopher Nolan films then see if you can do it. I don't suppose there are many IMAX houses left of the standard of the BFI IMAX but even so, the image quality should still be on a par even if the sound is unlikely to quite match it. TENET might be the best sound I've ever heard but I'd have to watch DUNE PART TWO and TENET back to back in the IMAX to check that.
John.
I've not seen Dune part one yet and I really should. But I know for a fact the next time the King of Prussia IMAX in Pennsylvania pulls out the Oppenheimer film print I'm going to be there. I'm trying my best to save my first viewing of the movie for an IMAX 1570 presentation just because I want to get that experience. I've gotten a taste of what it looks like in VR with a RUclips upload of the IMAX intro to the Dark Knight, but I want to experience the real deal.
And speaking of Christopher Nolan movies, I managed to find the old 1080p Blu-ray of inception a couple months back in a thrift store (or a charity shop as I think you call them) for $5. I absolutely picked it up because I have never seen Christopher Nolan movie before. And now that it's the summer I have plenty of time to do that.
I finally gave INCEPTION another try when I purchased the 4K disc late last year Chris. I still didn't get on with it very well which was a shame because I thought that after working out TENET it would make a whole lot more sense. It probably did but I just don't like it much. Maybe a third viewing sometime will do the trick. As for your plan to get to see the real deal, full Monty genuine IMAX screening of OPPENHEIMER, what a good idea. I don't think it's the most impressive of his films to see in IMAX but from a critical standpoint I think it's his best work. INTERSTELLAR is the best cinema experience I've ever had (twice) so perhaps if you see that's one's getting a special screening for its tenth anniversary later this year you might actually prefer that. TENET and DUNKIRK are probably the best image quality and I think TENET has the edge largely owing to much of it being shot in sunny climes.
John.
Interesting as always John.
Ill be buying the 4k disc soon to go with the first film and like you, i wasnt blown away after my first viewing.
Ive got the first 3 novels by Frank Herbert and again...after my first read i wasnt blown away.
Both iterations are dense ( film/novel ) and require multiple read throughs and viewings i believe to get the nost out of them.
I've also got the first 2 graphic novels with the third and final one out in June to make up the first book Dune.
They stick close to the novel unlike the film which changes quite abit.
As much as i like them, as a lauded best of the best SI-FI film and especially novel i beg to differ.
One day John, Dan Simmons Hyperion cantos series of books will come to the big screen and put Dune firmly in its place 😉😂👍
Daz
I think I've struggled with the Frank Herbert DUNE stories somewhat because they owe so much to the Asimov Foundation novels. I couldn't get enough of those great Asimov books and so DUNE always came across as second best. However, I've really got into the two films now and I'm finding that I'm looking forward to getting the 4K disc of the second film already even though I've just seen the bloody film!
I don't think there is anyway the Foundation series could successfully be turned into films... but I'll be happy to be proved wrong.
John.
My favourite film of the year. Saw it 5 times at the cinema and my 4K blu ray should arrive tomorrow 👌
At this rate Alan you'll be able to recite the complete script! John.
@@moviecollector5920 definitely mate
Which one did you think is better part one or part two?
I hadn't thought about that Tommy but right now it would be the second. That's probably owing to the huge screen and that top of the world sound system in the BFI IMAX. John.
salut voila une belle vidèo sur tout sa bien
Merci Alain. John.
Good video.
Thank you Benjamin. John.
Lovely video John, always enjoy your infectious enthusiasm. The Dune films are good but somewhat underwhelming to me. I think something set 10,000 years in the future should look stranger than these do, but perhaps that's just me. Still, regardless of that, I'm looking forward to a rewatch when the 4K diac arrives next week.
Seeing this one on a huge screen made a difference Ian. I wasn't overly impressed with the first film but I did like it. I re-watched it again a few months ago and enjoyed it a whole lot more. Just like leprosy, these films grow on you.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 ha, ha, like it! Bet Villeneuve's never had one of his films compared to leprosy but I think you're right, I have enjoyed the first film more on rewatches so hopefully I'll be the same with Part Two. I expect it's a case of tempering initial hopes/ expectations. I adored his Arrival and Blade Runner 2049 was a work of genius. Dune couldn't help but disappoint I suppose. Leprosy, ha ha....
I am from Germany where we don’t have a 70mm Imax, only digital. I was in LA when the TCL Chinese Theater showed Dune Part2. But my schedule didn’t allow me to attend the screening. Maybe I can get another chance in London. I hope the movie will be shown a couple of times more this year. Saw it on a Dual Laser at IMAX Sinsheim on a 22x27m screen, it was amazing. Want to see it on film someday. I boycott the Blu-ray because we don’t even get a 16:9 full screen transfer. I refuse to look at the big black bars, when this was only a choice of someone in charge of production of the Blue-ray, and the source material is definitely available. I don’t want the pure 4:3 on a modern TV either, like Zack Snyder did it. So for me 16:9 is the best compromise for home theater when watching Imax films. Changing of aspect ratio during the film, like Nolan’s Batman, is also okay for me, I don’t notice it.
I agree that the 1.78:1 ratio is the best compromise for these films on home video. But while watching DUNE PART TWO I did wonder if the 'Scope ratio might actually be preferable for it. It's not really up to IMAX standard (by a long shot) but it's a terrific watch (and listen), I just feel it's better suited to the widescreen process. That won't suit tellies but it will suit most home cinemas where you zoom the image up as wide as the screen will permit.
John.
Liked didn’t love the movie but the presentation was first rate! Nice job once again, John, nice to hear from you again. Can you snag me one of those Furiosa, imax movie posters?
I managed to get out with one of those ten foot wide standees Gary and thankfully no one seemed to notice!!! So I'll keep a lookout for another one for you and send it over. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks when you get it instead of shipping, why don’t you make a trip to the colonies and we can hang out!
Excellent as always John. Only one comment about film and flicker shutters, the complaint about the BT-H SUPA projector flicker! I must have show at least one film on every pair of BT-H SUPA in Manchester and I had a pair as my first home cinema and never saw the "BT-H SUPA flicker" but other people complained bitterly about it! See you on the 1st at Hereford.
Yes, some do tell me they can see flicker whenever they see a 'reel' film. I suppose we're all different in just the same way some are adversely affected by bright or flashing lights.
Don't forget that D:150 lens!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 So I need to bring: a 6,000ft rewinder, a solar cell for a Kalee 37 and a D-150 lens.
@@stephenrowley880 Don't forget your toolkit! Seriously Steve, only if you can manage that enormous D:150 lens which I think will be a perfect talking point. John.
Great video as always. Have you been to the new IMAX at the Empire, Leicester Square? If so, how does it compare with the BFI?
That's a faux IMAX Kamandi so not worth considering other than it having a huge 16x9 screen. It's only 4K video projection so sub-standard and particularly so compared to the quality we were enjoying up to about 25 to 30 years ago. To put it in context, 4K video is around 1/15th the quality of genuine IMAX.
The Empire was the greatest cinema in the world as far as I was concerned but the general downturn in image quality adversely affected even the top cinemas towards the end of the 1990's. By 2005/2006 I was so disappointed by everything I was looking at - and most accutely at The Empire - that I gave up on cinema and with further worse disappointments for a few years after that I started to only go to a cinema when I knew a film print was being screened. But I do have a possible solution for cinema today and we're hoping to reveal it at Film Is Fabulous at the Hereford Courtyard next Saturday.
John.
Thanks for the reply, John. Very informative. I look forward to hearing your solution. And I must admit, a lot of my cinemagoing now is to see film prints, which means a 90-minute each way train ride to London Victoria and a bus to the Prince Charles Cinema. Digital cinema just isn’t the same. I think digital intermediate, which arrived a few years before digital projection became the norm, was when the rot set in.
@@kamandi1362 The solution we have in mind will mean that cinemas will have the option of offering something that people can't experience at home. There will be a monetary outlay but nothing like the costs of new video projection equipment every few years and this solution is something that will work with all forms of projection. If a local cinema here was screening the new Mad Max spin-off FURIOSA in this format then I would have been there on opening night. But alas, it's just the same old presentation of a video on a flat screen and I can do that better at home.
John.
Nice to hear your shout-out for The National Media Museum in Bradford, John. The first IMAX screen in Europe. I hope the 70mm IMAX projector is getting reused. Sadly opening has been pushed back six months to "Early 2025".
I hadn't heard that the re-opening was now put back to about a year away David so thank you for the information as always. John.
@@moviecollector5920 from what I've heard it's a moving out of an elevator and installing of a new one that's causing the setback. So thankfully not a film equipment reason!
Hi, The Tom Jones episode last month i sold one on an auction site i wonder if the same print? came with two trailers on a reel.
The one we've saved came from a deceased collector Kevin so it won't have been the print you had. This episode is going back to ITV as it's their property... once we've finished with it!
John.
Hi John. I'm hearing that the Godzilla Minus One audio is exquisite. You will want to check that one out when it hits the UK market. Cheers from Canada.
I used to enjoy those films when I was a child Kevin but I struggle a bit these days. I still like the original Gojira though. John.
Me too. Minus One is a different animal though. I can't wait to see it, it got great reviews.
@@kevinweithers1223 Now that I think about it, the Hollywood reinterpretation of Godzilla about 2001 was a lot of fun. That's the one with Matthew Broderick. I'm not sure I'd like it much if I saw it for the first time now though but I suppose I was just about young enough when it originally came out.
John.
The reason why Dune 2 70mm imax may pale in comparison to Nolan IMAX releases is because the film was shot on IMAX certified Arri digital cameras capable of filming in 1.90:1 and 1.43:1 aspect ratio. They shot the film in digital first, then convert it to celluloid film, and then converted back to digital to achieve a grainy, retro futuristic aesthetic.
Yes, only around 1/15th the quality of a genuine IMAX 15/70 film (i.e. shot 15/65 for 15/70 release prints). John.
I took the 14 and 12 year olds to watch Dune P2 at the Watford Imax. What was that then, if not genuine Imax? Digital? It was a very enjoyable experience and I enjoyed it much more than the first film. I'm looking forward to the 4k release next week!
There isn't an IMAX in Watford so it must be one of the video variants that proliferate. It's not the real McCoy for which there is nothing that compares or even comes close. That's not so important with DUNE PART TWO as it was only a digital video to start with so the twelve 15/70 prints struck for the world are much lower quality (about 15 or maybe even times lower) than genuine IMAX films which have been shot 15/65 for 15/70 release such as OPPENHEIMER. The good news is that OPPENHEIMER has started a resurgence of film and that is why I believe the DUNE PART TWO standard 70mm and 15/70 prints have been struck. Apparently a whole load of films are currently being shot or in the works that will include 15/65 sequences for genuine 15/70 IMAX release prints. The digital video faux IMAX houses should really use a different name for each of the myriad systems because many people think the name 'IMAX' means they've seen IMAX.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 It will be lovely to see more movies shot on film and in the larger formats for the immersive experiences they offer.
The Cineworld in Watford does have an Imax screen, tho I don't know if it's film or digital projection. I've seen several films there, including Avatar 2 in 3D IMAX. 🥸
Good stuff. I enjoyed it very much.
Glad you enjoyed it Timothy. A 15/70 at the BFI IMAX is always an enjoyable time for us but quite something to see one of only 12 prints of this one. John.
@moviecollector5920 I would like to see a movie in that theater someday. Dune part 1 in our little multiplex was grand. I enjoyed it a bit more than part 2
@@timothymathetes The BFI IMAX seems to be making better use of all the 15/70 prints they have housed there of late. INTERSTELLAR just had another screening scheduled and half an hour later there was only one seat left unsold. Something sensational seems to have happened and 'film is fashionable' once again. Hey, that would be a good slogan for a film event... change the last to 'fabulous' and we might have something there!
John.
@moviecollector5920 that's right! Maybe it could be the subtopic of your film is fabulous. I certainly hope that It's becoming fashionable again, because from what I've heard people aren't going to movies in states much anymore. At least not when compared to how much they used to.
@@timothymathetes The ease of viewing a movie at home or on a telephone is the big enemy for cinema today. It's the early 1950's all over again but cinema has not been fighting back this time. We need to educate them. As for Film Is Fabulous the name did come from Simon Nicholls and I at last year's BFCC suggesting that 'film is fashionable'. Not every cinema is going to need to project film to get the audience back but any cinema that doesn't do something different and better to what people perceive that they can do at home then they're unlikely to survive for long. I consider cinema to be an important part of our cultural heritage so I don't want it to die off and will therefore do what little I can to point the way.
John.
One day John, one day I hope to visit that film palace/film heaven. By the way, been liaising with Keith from Euphoria Pictures and we both agreed, you are the film master!!!😊
Far be it from me to disagree with you and Keith Dark! The BFI IMAX has just this afternoon listed another screening of the 15/70 print of INTERSTELLAR... and it's sold out within about half an hour!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Wow, so it is extremely popular. I hope they make more major movies in the Imax format like Nolan does. Imagine musicals on it, not that I'm into musicals although I did go to see Wonka and thought it was bloody good😉
Unfortunately I did not get to see this in IMAX. liked it more than I expected. it was great scifi fun. but the ultimate test will be if I end up rewatching it over and over. I hear the 4K is reference quality.
I don't think either DUNE film is going to prove particularly repeatable but time will tell. The 4K cannot be reference quality because the greatest 4K discs have a starting point around 15 times the quality of DUNE PART TWO so for this one to suddenly be as good would be against the laws of physics. I had the same thing with the 4K of the first film a couple of years ago because people were telling me it was the best 4K disc they'd ever seen. The reality was that it wasn't anywhere near the best. I think what happens is that people tend to get excited when they really like a movie and want it to be the best quality. The sound will be among the best though. The damnable thing is that none of us are going to ever hear it again like we did at the BFI IMAX and some of the other best cinemas in the world.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I do wish I got to hear it in IMAX sound. I agree with 4k quality of 1st one. It sounded and looked great. but the 4k didn't exactly blow me away. probably has to do with how they shot it. it did do a great job with Atmos.
@@luisd7636 Now that you mention Dolby Atmos, I can't tell you which sound system DUNE PART TWO was in at the IMAX but when you have sound that good it doesn't seem to matter much as long as there's surround sound on it. I used to be a little too obsessed with sound but that was because I got my first Dolby Stereo system more than 30 years ago and at the time no one I knew had anything like it. I was always upgrading so when the 6.1 system came out I got one of those and quickly realized it didn't do anything to enhance the overall sound. I've had the THX Ultra system for more than 20 years now and I've still not heard a better home system. It's 5.1 but so big there's no viable way of changing it to anything else as there's not the room for the speakers and I'm certainly not strapping any extra rear tripoles to the ceiling.
John.
Does anyone know if the CGI was rendered in 4K?
I don't Cody but it didn't stick out like a sore thumb like it does in some movies so possibly an indication if was rendered at higher quality. John.
i bought the limited edition nordic steelbook. the movie was OK, it felt like the first movie but with some new stuff added to the story. many of the themes we have seen many times in other films. i'll have to watch it again to see how i feel about after a second viewing. but for me its nothing special,but as you say very well made films. and now we have to wait for the third film to see the "big war" but yes the sound design is amazing tho
All science fiction since Asimov's Foundation stories began lift from that great series so it takes some acceptance for me. I struggled with the first Villeneuve DUNE film a couple of years ago but I've got into the whole saga now. I think seeing this one on a huge screen has helped. That's another cinema visit I'll never forget... I hope!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 you're right,and we'll have to wait for part 3 to see how this trilogy ties together and ends! did you see villeneuve's film arrival? i actually like it. i saw it in theaters and i bought the soundtrack on vinyl and the steelbook. he's a great director no doubt but one of my issues with his films like blade runner 2042 etc is that his films are very "clinical" everything is very dry and sterile if that makes sense? i like when films are a little "dirty" or gritty to add to the atmosphere,like the first blade runner. but i think that he as well as nolan are afraid to make something that will be viewed as "stupid" so they take all their films so serious it almost takes the away the "fun factor" when you watch them. maybe it's just me but that's how i feel.
Cheers!
@@funkmachine9094 I have the Blu-ray of Arrival and will need to watch it again because I didn't think particularly highly of it when it first came out. I feel similarly about Blade Runner 2049 and I was largely the same about DUNE, but that's changed now. What Mr. Villeneuve needs to do in the future is assemble a team around him who are competent and capable to shoot on film. That will make a big difference to the look of his movies and give the image quality an overall improvement. If he's able to shoot VistaVision, Technirama, 65mm or even 15/65 then it would be a major improvement in image quality except for the computer effects work of course.
John.
Was this not shot in full imax I read online
No, only shot on video. No film at all. What a shame because even the top quality was only 6.5K video which is an estimated one-eighth the quality of genuine IMAX 15/70. Then it's got to be shrunk down to a lowly 4K which is one-fifteenth. It didn't look brilliant but it was surprisingly good in places. What was impressive was that the blow-up process successfully turned a video into a film with all the same aesthetics of a film shot on film.
John.
Was that a pun 😄, 🎶It's not unusual... to be a Tom Jones fan, da, daa, da, da, da... 🎶
Yes, sorry about that one Mubai. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Loved it! 😂
Filmed in Aqaba, Jordan. ... if you can cross the Nefud Desert 🙂 #IYKYK
I did wonder where the desert was. What an amazing location. John.
Lucky!
The closest 15/70 imax is 14 hours away from me.
Plus the 4k bluray of part 2 is cropped again, just like part 1 was. Both 'good' movies, but not revelatory 14 hour drive good like Interstellar would be.
I've been thinking about the aspect ratio and I actually think this one will be more impressive in the 'Scope frame. It's got that sort of look to it and should be around 2.40:1. The subtitles that appear on screen occasionally were in the correct place for 2.40:1 too so the rest of the image was largely superfluous. If you're watching on a telly though I dare say most would prefer 1.78:1 but a home cinema and you want the widest image possible.
John.
Long live celluloid film!
Well said Stephen. Polyester film too! John.
Like you, I thought Dune 1 was just meh, Then watched watched Dune 2 and like it, Went back and watch dune 1 and enjoyed more than the 1st time.
Just like a rash, these films grow on you! John.
Great review John :)
I have only seen the 1984 version of Dune, but I couldn't really get into the film. The story is way too confusing and I think u need to read the book to fully appreciate this kind of film. The only thing I truly enjoyed were the amazing visual effects. So, I haven't been interested in the new Dune films because I'm not sure I would enjoy them.
I haven't seen the 1984 film since it was first released so I don't exactly remember much about it other than I didn't like it much. That might change if I ever manage to see it again. I very much enjoyed this latest film, aided by it being on a huge screen. But I did re-watch the 2021 film again a few months ago and appreciated it a whole lot more and that did prepare me for Part Two. I think I'm into all things DUNE now but it took some work.
John.
I love cinema always will but you can not beat sitting at home watching a movie in silence in your underpants 😂
I can't say I've ever done that but I appreciate the naughty humour of the thought.
John.
Sounds like a good time. Didn’t like Dune 1. Haven’t seen Dune 2. Take care John.
DUNE seems a whole lot better the second time around Craig. Now I think I'm really into the whole saga and will likely enjoy it even more the third time. The books were always a bit of a plod but I'm told a second read of those is a better read just like the films are a better watch.
John.
Hello John Great video
John, unfortunately we don't have IMAX 70 in Poland. I'm jealous of this cinema with all my heart :)
Yes, Dune is a sound... a sure Oscar in the sound category
ruclips.net/video/1K-gLGbc-gA/видео.html
This scene on the Harkonnen planet gives me goosebumps
It might be one of the best sounding movies ever made Heniek. I don't think it's as good as TENET but I may be wrong. The Oscars had lost their way for years but because they seem to have got back on track last year we might just start taking notice of them again... until the next disaster occurs such as giving the best film award to the wrong film, selecting winners simply because of political correctness, or allowing someone to go up on stage and slap someone! OPPENHEIMER has pointed the way for the film industry and so far they seem to have taken notice, hence why DUNE PART TWO got the 70mm and 15/70 blow-up treatment.
John.
It was a beautiful movie; but as an avid fan of the novels I was very disappointed. So much was left out; and some stuff was added that didn't make sense or grossly contradicted the book. My friends and I call it Dune for Dummies. The movie was a rousing success because the vast majority of the audience liked what they saw and didn't know any better. Be assured that your video still received a thumbs up.
Morning Henri. I struggled a little with the novels but I think that's because I've read just about everything Asimov and the Dune novels were so clearly influenced by the Foundation series. Now there's another anthology of novels that would be just about impossible to do justice to on film. The first part of these new DUNE films has grown on me but the second one had something extra special and that was seeing it on the huge screen. It makes a difference. Whether or not it will ever have the same impact on me again remains to be seen but I can see myself purchasing the 4K disc to find out as soon as it's available. One thing is for sure, the sound isn't going to be quite the same despite THX Ultra.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I too have read lots and lots of Asimov, and I am a huge fan of his Robot and Foundation novels and stories. I hope you have not watched the Foundation TV series. Somehow that was much, much worse than the Dune movies. My friends and I actually gathered to binge watch the first season. It quickly devolved into a Mystery Science Theater 3000 moment. It is an abomination. We will not watch any of the future seasons.
Going to see Furiosa tonight.
I have to admit that I'm actually interested in going to see Furiosa. I don't know if I will as I can't get to London again for a while and watching it in my home cinema is always better than any local cinema I've ever visited in the past 17 or 18 years so that doesn't exactly have the same thrill about it. But it may be worth giving another of the second rate cinemas another try to see if things have improved or continued to deteriorate.
John.
You’re very lucky to live near such a great cinema. I assume the sound was fantastic.
The sound is possibly only bettered by TENET but I'd have to watch both films there back to back to be sure. John.