Conduit Bending: Parallel Offsets, How to calculate and implement Parallel Adjustment Constants.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- In this video I show you how to find the parallel adjustment constants and how to implement them in your offsets to create equal spacing throughout all of your conduits. I also give you a quick offset bending example, even though the video is not about how to bend an offset. I threw it in anyway.
Reminder:
Just want to take the time out to stress that when you take your measurement to calculate parallel adjustment, you MUST TAKE THE MEASUREMENT FROM CENTER TO CENTER OF THE CONDUITS YOU ARE BENDING THE OFFSETS FOR. It will not work otherwise. Also it doesn't matter if you are doing horizontal parallel offsets or vertical offsets, so long as you get the center to center measurements from the conduits it will come out just fine.
I posted all the Parallel Adjustment Constants in the video, you should either write them down or take a screen shot and keep them on you. After watching this video there should be no reason why you don't make your offsets with more than one offset a Parallel Offset.
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Let me tell you something brother I am a journeyman. I topped out of the IBEW apprenticeship not to long ago and in my first two years in the program my instructor couldn't do a better job than you in explaining this concept of conduit bending. In fact, he didn't even bother teaching this concept. I barely did any conduit bending in class so needless to say I had a hard time bending pipe in the field. But I want to thank you for this video brother. And if there's any apprentice watching this video pay close attention;this man is the truth. Keep up the good job brother.
Let me start out by saying Thank you very much. I'm really trying hard to explain conduit bending in a way that any apprentice can pick up a bender and complete a decent bend. I know starting out I didn't have this I had to look and find and try to dig up literature and it wasn't very easy at all. Basically only had the benfield manual. So I decided to just refresh my self with trigonometry and through the years I was able to just figure stuff out through trial and error and not to mention always asked the more experience journeyman what ever questions i had. Anyhow Thanks again. If you have any questions at all feel free to contact me anytime on any of the social medias @Holmzlaw.
Good to know- second year apprentice
Thanks I’m a appreciate . I need some game from the big dogs 🤛
Second year ibew apprentice here and I can relate to what t dyer commented thank you so much brotha I really appreciate your videos. You put me on game with all your videos much appreciated
Just wanted to let you know that I am doing a lot of research on Bending Emt, today i been more than 9 hours on it
You are fine, I understood it perfectly, I just wanted to ensure that the result (difference between the first offset) was added to the second offset ... thank you for sharing your knowledge
easy way to calculate shrink (aside from memorizing) Is the given angle divided by 120 Ex: 15 degrees is 15/120 = 0.125 = 1/8 22.5 degrees is 22.5/120 = 0.1875 = 3/16 30 degrees is 30/120 = 0.25 = 1/4 45 degrees is 45/120 = 0.375 = 3/8 and so on
Thanks for the info. Also thanks for watching.
great tip , thank you
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@@TheArtOfConduitBending okay cool, yeah will definitely check it out on way home
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Danm this helps out a lot and it makes a lot of sense now thank you very helpful
You are very welcome.
Tremendo Capo! Haciendo videos a diestra y siniestra exponiendo y enseñando lo que no se ve en el arte del doblado de pipa. 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
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Thank you my brother.
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Didn't you need to use the 15 degrees tangent 1/8?
Looks like you used the . 25 which is for 30 degrees.
It's tan(30/2 if you input into the calculator.
Wish all this was around when I was going through apprenticeship
Ugly book on conduit is pretty good. And even just the conduit section in the regular manual
Badass. I've always have trouble with parallel runs with different size conduits. Love the depth and the details you go through that explains everything. Keep up the good work.
I'm glad I was able to help you. I'm not sure if you know but I just put out a 3 part series of video's about Parallel Kicks. I've completed and posted 2 of them and the 3rd is on it's way. Thanks again for watching. Please share and subscribe!
Hey bro okay Imagine 2 , 3/4 conduit pipes coming off a tranpeez pipe rack in the air and going to offset down and run along a 🧱 wall one stops and the other goes in these pipes are for disconnect s how would i make them parrael
I wish I could imagine it but I can't. You would have to send me a video. Best way is either Snapchat or Instagram. Sorry I wish I could answer that for you.
Just an fyi I think this changes as your pipe sizes change. I.E. Distance between pipes because of OD right? 🤔
no sir. you are probably confusing it with rolling parallels
Nice job great video
Good video with great information but this could've been a 15 min video. Too much repeating.
I'll take that into consideration in the next one
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Thanks for taking the time to make this tutorial. I'm retired now but still interested in the job, glad to see you take pride in your work, there is too much fast track work going on where quantity trumps quality. I was taught as an apprentice that " long after the cost of the job is forgotten, the quality shall remain".
Thanks for watching!
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When you reference same thing for diff size conduit are we talking from center of bends you make the adjustments? I don’t believe it’s arrow or front of shoe?
I'm not sure what you are asking
Saying the arrow on a hand bender doesn’t represent the front of a shoe on a table bender when making adjustments for different size conduits.
@@MrMattyHess yes you would use center of bends. This is the norm when you start using electric and hydraulic aka table benders. Although for most of your standard benders you won't need to use COB you can use front of shoe. COB comes into play mostly when you need to place a kick in a desired spot on your conduit. Or 3 point saddles, concentric bends , or when you need to place your offset bends in a specific spot.
Appreciate the video bro thank you 🙏🏽
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So long story short multiply the shrinkage for whatever angle you’re bending your offset on times however many inches for the conduit spacing you were running. Example three-quarter inch with 2 inch spacing you would advance your marks a half inch per pipe to keep all the parallel bends in line with each other.
Foreal, best Parelle bend video on youtube, only things is i’m probably ganna say “CentA to centA” all day long brother. #332
Thank you for all your help brother I loved your videos I've been out of electrical for 10 years just came back and now I'm running circles around all these apprentices!!
Thanks for watching and most of all for the comment
I wish you could be the instructor at our Local.
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What is a good round spacing in between 3/4 pipe on a rack
usually 1-3/4" center to center or 2" center to center.
Hey holmz great vid but which was the one you said you would explain the marks you made on your bender i cant find it
Can you give me the time stamp on the video when i said that. Then ill know what your talking about so i could give you the link. Thank you.
keep up the good work
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@@TheArtOfConduitBending rite on brotha keep up the good content Im watching
I could really use some advice on keeping conduits parallel with different rises
Great job from another brother in the field keep up the good work my brother wonderful
Just wanted to let you know that I am doing a lot of research on Bending Emt. Today I been more than 9 hours
What about Different size Of Conduict should they be bend at Different or same shoe ?
So question , what/does anything change in regards to conduit size?
Can I Bend 3/4" 1" 2" at the same Bending shoe Or They Have To Be Bend at Their Own Size shoe? And Thank You You Had help me A Lot With Your Videos
1"&¾ in a 2" shoe you might not be able to. But I m not positive. I've never tried it.
I did my entire apprenticeship in residential, non-union. Here I am now, in the union, working commercial, and I'm that resi guy that everybody makes fun of. These videos are lifesavers. Thank you brother.
No problem. Let me know if there's anything I can help you with.
does this work when they are laying down only or does it work when the offset is sitting up
Thank you bruh! I appreciate you taking the time to make the video. This helped me out big time! Best conduit tutorial page on RUclips
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If you bend 30 degree on the floor it's easier cause you just bend until the handle is perpendicular to the floor. For me I find it easier.
Yes but some benders the handle straight is a 45.
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Nice job, im a residential custom home condo guy. Pipe is something i get my hands on few and far between, but im moving and i know the work there is more commerical industrial. I am currently practicing my skills at home after work with youtube vids with a bunch of 1/2, 3/4, and 1" and my uglys book and a ibew conduit card a old timer gave me when i was an a apprentice. Keep the vids coming
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Well explained as a pre-apprentice this helped a lot! We did a parallel offset today but my journey did a pretty shitty job. He didnt use tangents, shrinks and angles. I think he just wanted to finish the job. Didnt really learn anything from him.
If you don't do the calculation it just takes so much longer and you have the chance of it coming out wrong. The calculation really isn't that hard either. Really quite simple.
I know a Puerto Rican from the Bronx when i hear em
What if youre taking shrink into account while doing this, do u add shrinkage to your first mark?
yes so add your shrink first then do your parallel adjustment. Some people get confused but its very simple and the end result is so much better.
Great job!
Thanks bro
Love that calculator, got everyone to go set one at the place I used to work when the buttons on their older casinos started falling off.
Yeah I loved that calculator too. It broke at work. I need to get another one just like that. They don't last very long at work. I need a robust scientific calculator built for the construction environment.
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Nice Thank You For. Take Time. To Teach Us
What happens if the rise changes ????
Great videos very helpful and educational. Thank you.
Thank you
The way you broke it down was A1. Thanks for the insight .
thanks brother
Bro! I learned thisnin high school, but i had totally forgotten about it, about how to do that calculation. You explained it just right bro thanks a lot!!!!!!!
Im glad you enjoyed it brother. Happy Thanksgiving. Im working on putting together an electrical calculation playlist too. Already have a few videos in the list. Also im on podcast now too. All major ones. You can see which ones on anchor.fm/holmz-law
Also i have an advanced conduit video course playlist completely free. I have to warn you to warn you the video's are long and the style of bending is probably something you're not use to. Go check it out on the channel.
Hello… I was curious if this formula applies to half inch EMT? I just watched your vid (amazing btw) and you said the formula works from 3/4 to 4” I will be doing a conduit bending test soon using 1/2” and I have to bend parallel offsets and 90’s. So my understanding is it would be .268 times spacing of center to center?! I’ll be going into a j box so according to the formula you gave my 1st mark on 2nd conduit would adjust by .335” is this correct? Hope to hear back soon and thanks
I apologize. It will work for any size conduit. I just don't usually work with ½" so I forget to mention it. yes the formula depends on the degree of offset your bending all of your offsets. So if all of your parallel offsets are 30° then it would be ¼" x spacing from center to center. If you were bending 45° then it would be ⅜" x spacing from center to center. Where you threw me off is when you refer to a j box. I'm in not sure what your situation is but parallel offsets are used just to have equal spacing through out all of your bends. Like you see in the picture of my RUclips video.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending thanks for getting back to me promptly brother. Yeah for the last 8 months I was working with 3/4” EMT at the hospital but a couple weeks ago we started a project at the college using 1/2”. My test coming up I have to bend parallel offsets going from one 4” square down to another then come out the other side and run parallel 90’s to another j box then come out of that and do a 3bend saddle over an existing pipe. I’m good on others but need help on the offsets. Thank you for the help and advice brother. I’m a 1st year apprentice and have to pass the test to move on to 2nd year. I will practice your formula for sure
@@bobbywood2146 just remember that the parallel adjustment for each degrees. Is the same thing as the shrink constant for offsets. It's off by such a miniscule number that it won't effect the way it looks at all. So remember shrink constant is the same as parallel adjustment. Example
30° offset parallel adjust is = 1/4"
30° offset shrink constant is = 1/4"
Hope that helps.
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Looks great awesome teacher...Don't let the super see no protection on the floor...
Lol... Thanks for watching brother. Most of all for the comment. Love to read these when i get the chance.
So on the inside how would you subtract? Have a vid of that??
I don't have a video on that cause i believe i explain that in the video. Outside parallels you add onto the next conduit. If you are working from the inside then from your second conduit just subtract your answer and keep subtracting till your done with all your conduits. Its the same just reverse. Thats all. Don't make it complicated. Just take your time and think about it.
You used half inch conduit is it the same for 3/4?
yes it's the same no matter what size you use.
What if you are using segment bends?
Totally different calculation. You still have to use this calc. But in top of this calc you'll have to combine the segment bend calc too
U are the best on RUclips explaining this techniques,
Thanks really appreciate it
Can you make a video on sweeping a 90° bend
check this video out. Not sure if this is what you mean. But i have a video doing segment 90s already.
ruclips.net/video/FeZq53EGTXo/видео.html
You are simple the best
Im in industrial and use hydraulic bender. It worked when i used the formula on the same size conduit but when i used different sizes, it was off. All the math was right. And i did it multiple times. I noticed the center on the bend is different.
Ok so when you use different sizes of conduit. You need to measure for each conduit center to center. Because like you said the c to c measurement is different. Im going to have to do a video explaining that. I thought i did explain it in the video. Im going to have to check. If i didn't ill make a video. I apologize for the confusion.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending your explanation was fine but it would be nice to see it done on conduit that is not the same size. And by the center i meant center of the bend. Like a couple inches behind your line where the bender starts bending the pipe. Ex : the 3/4 would start bending at 5 inches while the 1 inch would start bending around 6 inches. And again this in a greenlee hydraulic bender
Ok im going to look into and work on another video with different size conduits.
did you use the edge of the saddle as your start mark or use centers? i also use he big bender and i will find a center mark for each bend im going to make using scrap pieces of each size conduit on the rack. and how far that mark is from the end of shoe. Then you bend to center of bends and it will work out. Hope i explained it right. after that all the process is tghe same as he explained.
Great video. I’m just starting my apprenticeship and I’m going to check out all you videos to learn how to bend conduit. 👍
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Very good
Thank you.
2023 and I know the fundamentals of bending but even know after this video I understand things that for sure I know I’ve been struggling with, I’m a Solar electrician so I touch a lot of conduit as well. Great video thanks 💪🏼
Can you make a video doing a 90° bend and with (2) 3 point saddle bends and how the shrinkage works? Making 3 bends Using one pipe?
I can do a video showing you all that and how shrinkage works. But i don't know if i can fit ( 2) 3 point saddle and a 90 in one pipe. Ill get back to you. But either way i know what you want and i can show you.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending thank you so much
Professors I admire you a lot when you are going to make parallel curves. Your classes are very helpful. Thank you. I am offsets in parallel. I learned a lot !!
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what do you do with adjustment values
you'll add them in most cases to your offset layout on the second conduit , 3rd, 4th and so on.
Great video! Excellent tip at the end. That was really helpful. Keep up the good work. Stay safe
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Different size conduit parallel offset, any calculation different?
ok so for different size conduit. it's basically still the same. what you have to do is just space out the conduit with the spacing you want. then measure from center of conduit to the center of next conduit. then just use the formula i gave you. other than that its really just the same. or take half the size of one conduit half the other conduit plus add desired spacing in between and use formula. Sorry i couldn't get back sooner.
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Bruh your teaching is on point
Wow I really appreciate that.
How do you use this for parallel kicks?
I have lots of videos on kicks these are just a couple of them. Search parallel kicks by holmzlaw. I'm posting a couple videos below. Hope this helps you.
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Good stuff
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Hello buddy Holmz Law! I LOVE your all videos!! I have learned a lots from your videos! My question to you is HOW to be a confident to bend Conduit without having help from my boss or Journeyman? What I need is to be responsible to bend Conduits without making too much scrap/wrong bent conduits? Honestly, I LIKE to be just like yours to know how to bend Conduit and want to be a Professional conduits bender!
My answer to you is. The best way to be a confident conduit bender is to practice and memorize the formulas. After that practice bending as much as possible. Learn from all of your mistakes and remember them. Learning how to bend is not hard the hardest part is knowing the correct formulas. Also knowing when to use a specific bend for the right situation.
@@TheArtOfConduitBending THANK YOU for the wise answer!! I will follow your idea! ☺️👍❤️🌷
I feel like he lopses his train of thought for trying to give us so many reminders
You're probably right
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might be a dumb question but will this method work for 3 and 4 point parallel saddles? or there is no such thing as parallel saddles only parallel offsets or 90 degree bends? thanks in advance
you can use this for a 4 point saddle parallel because it's basically just 2 offsets. And yes there is such a thing as parallel 3 point saddles just rare that anyone ever has to use it. But you won't be able to use this method for it. You need to use what I call an advanced method you can find it on my advanced conduit bending playlist.
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You made a mistake minutes 22:22 you said 15 degrees =1/8 of an inch times center to center between conduits than you star using 30 degrees constan times center to center
Thanks for the comment. I'm sorry I don't see it. I watched your time stamp and I think your mistaken. I also watched your time stamp about a couple minutes forward and back didn't see what you mentioned.
Half of the tangent of 30 degrees would be 1/8 correct?
Using the formula it should be 1/8 times the spacing not 1/4
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Hi Bro Mel thanks again for all this great pipbending experience. I dont have conduit right using hose filled with ice. Lots of snow out right now. Your really helped me stay positive while bending only after all calculation layout. I know you want us to be the best Mel it shows in your video's. Me and Fam Thank you Homerun all the way😊
Yes I want you guys to be the best you can possibly be. Conduit benders make money and no one can ever take the knowledge away
To Bad I hope u do not ruined the floor when you bend it.
The floor turned out just fine. Thanks for watching. Really appreciate it.
You’re The Best Brother…..thx once again
Thank you. Anytime brother.
I really liked the video .... I would just like to confirm if I understood correctly. When doing offset obvious the first one is done as we normally do it, right? So if I had to make another one on the outside at 30 ° Should I add the result of the formula in the first bend?
So you start adding to the second, third, fourth, etc. I apologize if I wasn't clear on that. I'll try to look over the video and update it ASAP.
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Please please get to the point.
I really apologize. It's a bad habit. I'm working on it
Thank you for sharing this, God bless you