How Justin Trudeau won his THIRD term

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Комментарии • 5 тыс.

  • @yngwievanhalen9640
    @yngwievanhalen9640 2 года назад +3561

    My big takeaway: OOF

  • @Steadyaim101
    @Steadyaim101 2 года назад +2137

    "It did nothing, it was about nothing, and it cost $600 million dollars." Kind of just Canadian politics in a nutshell.

    • @jimmywest8684
      @jimmywest8684 2 года назад +41

      Pretty boring...
      - The good kind of politics

    • @Steadyaim101
      @Steadyaim101 2 года назад +115

      @@jimmywest8684 ehh. Canadian politics may be boring, but its not because things are good in the hood. Its because Canadian politicians since Mulroney really are afraid to take action on anything, so we sit in a mediocre status quo while our geopolitical issues like the looming housing crisis, personal debt crisis, and the fact we are increasingly pushed to the backbenches in world politics continues to grow. Canada used to be a dynamic country that was very active in the world. Now we sit here in apathy.

    • @ohio9499
      @ohio9499 2 года назад +19

      You only wasted $600 million!? In the US that’s nothing!

    • @Steadyaim101
      @Steadyaim101 2 года назад +29

      @@ohio9499 Remember our economy is like, a 12th of the size. For us, it works out to about $15 per Canadian

    • @zombieat
      @zombieat 2 года назад +18

      @@ohio9499 well the recall election in california costed less and california has a larger population and gdp than canada.

  • @jonnyminogue
    @jonnyminogue 2 года назад +1932

    I was so excited to finally get JJ’s opinion on the election. Unlike the election itself, it didn’t disappoint.
    Re: the Green win in Ontario, I read the the Liberals backed the Green candidate over the NDP candidate. That definitely seemed like a strategic way to not get a NDP win that riding, as they could easier retake the seat from a Green than an NDP candidate next time.

    • @ComputerTechnic217
      @ComputerTechnic217 2 года назад +17

      @UCAXAFKeTfEBwtBgaT64ERFA yea what an a tool
      An O’Toole

    • @ericnicholls3955
      @ericnicholls3955 2 года назад +17

      Nice insight and very unbiased.

    • @frankeinstein719
      @frankeinstein719 2 года назад +8

      And people are falling for the trap head first.

    • @ACharlesCyr
      @ACharlesCyr 2 года назад +67

      To be fair, the green candidate actually came in second in Kitchener-Centre in 2019, so it wasn’t like the Liberals just served it up to him.

    • @richardparadox163
      @richardparadox163 2 года назад +23

      Yeah, as an American, I was wondering what happened there since I assumed NDP would be the next logical choice, especially in the middle of Toronto, but that makes sense. Personally it seems like a failure to win that seat is a bigger indictment of Jagmeet Singh’s strategy.

  • @Kyotosomo
    @Kyotosomo Год назад +599

    Here in America half the public flips out when someone wins the presidency with only 46% of the vote (versus someone who gets 48%). Meanwhile over in Canada you can become PM with less than a third of the vote and it's seen as just business as usual lol. Love how wildly different things are just walking over the border haha.

    • @MSCCA
      @MSCCA Год назад

      It's more that they flip out when the winning party got less votes than the losing party.

    • @prplt
      @prplt Год назад +56

      in Europe it can be even less than that, in Finland for example it can be with less than 20% 😂

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Год назад +59

      The US president can do things traditionally only Kings and Emperors could do. Meanwhile, many PMs and chancellors get the boot the second 50%+1 in parliament want them out. It's not comparable.

    • @Kyotosomo
      @Kyotosomo Год назад +1

      @@Alias_Anybody The power of the US President is greatly overstated, congress is more powerful by far. Most of what the president can do can be stopped thanks to Checks And Balances. And frankly even much of the power recent presidents HAVE had, they weren't supposed to, and it is instead blatantly unconstitutional authoritarian bullshit like the flagrant abuse of the Executive Order far beyond the scope of what was originally intended, as well as a massive overexpansion of the executive branch and widescale corruption in the carrying out of said duties. And virtually all of this abuse of power and all this corruption is by one side of the aisle due to how completely partisan government staffing has become (over 95% of government employees in the capitol are now Democrats); these presidential powers would be greatly reduced if we brought government back to a more balanced state. But even given the current state of things, presidents are no where near as powerful as people think (or at least they aren't supposed to be).

    • @christopherjohnson3464
      @christopherjohnson3464 Год назад +28

      US President has a lot more power. For example executive orders mean elections matter more. Other countries also use representative democracy which means that third parties hold seats so its very unlikely that a majority happens at all. Also coalitions are often formed between plurality and smaller parties which gives smaller parties a voice and limits the power of a low popularity government. In the UK which is another country to use first past the pole voting the leader has popular majority support most of the time and third parties exist allowing coalitions. So your comment makes little sense except to show how messed up American voting is

  • @farkass7440
    @farkass7440 2 года назад +46

    The fact that a party got 5% of the people voting for them and still did not get eny seats out of 443 (5% of wich is more than 22) shows you how flawed this system is.

    • @owenchafer1083
      @owenchafer1083 9 месяцев назад +4

      Sure, but what would be your solution to that? That 5% is spread out across the country and ridings are supposed to represent local regions.

    • @Slenderman63323
      @Slenderman63323 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@owenchafer1083 use a popular vote instead, regional issues should be handled in provincial and municipal government elections

  • @toadhoward3954
    @toadhoward3954 2 года назад +1830

    It’s interesting how you wish there were less Canadian parties. As an American I wish we had like at least a third party that mattered at all. There’s a popular sentiment here that if you vote for a third party you’re basically not voting at all

    • @AaronfRogers
      @AaronfRogers 2 года назад +118

      Sadly, it's the same in Canada

    • @DD-ej1hg
      @DD-ej1hg 2 года назад +172

      Well in our history we have only elected liberals or conservatives, but I wish we had term limits for the prime minister like you have for your president

    • @nickgennady
      @nickgennady 2 года назад +76

      Honestly I think term limits for everyone would fix a lot more than 3rd party but I’m not against it.

    • @GERMAN_ENGINEERING
      @GERMAN_ENGINEERING 2 года назад +27

      @@nickgennady I think term limits are good but that gives a lot of power to lobbyists I’m afraid.

    • @nickgennady
      @nickgennady 2 года назад +33

      @@GERMAN_ENGINEERING Dang I did not think of that. Lobbyists are ehh. One guy here on RUclips who talks about "right to repair" lobbies a lot but he's not bad dude. I also think you can't just have people vote because a lot of people like in this case do not know the details of subject matter. But on the other side of things Lobbyists have there own interests and are corrupt as well. Very difficult world we live in.

  • @AnonymousBosch3158
    @AnonymousBosch3158 Год назад +132

    JJ: "We have more parties than we need."
    Me as a brazillian (with 32 oficial parties): "It seems nice to me."

    • @cabexus
      @cabexus Год назад +3

      as vezes eu me pergunto como qualquer político faz qualquer coisa.

    • @murtazamehdi2154
      @murtazamehdi2154 4 месяца назад

      In Pakistan we have 175 political parties 😂 but only three really matter

  • @ceice2248
    @ceice2248 11 месяцев назад +27

    Trudeau has been PM for almost half my life and Canada has gone downhill as long as I can remember.

    • @justalecks1106
      @justalecks1106 10 месяцев назад +11

      So you’re saying that you’re 16 and don’t know anything. Noted.

    • @TheRealUSArmy
      @TheRealUSArmy 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@justalecks1106what did Trudeau do which was great?

  • @weldin
    @weldin 2 года назад +431

    Y’know, people talk a lot of shit about the American government system-often rightfully so-but it blows my mind how many countries give their leaders the power to call an election. I can’t imagine the chaos that would happen in the US if the president or house speaker had that kind of power.

    • @chris-bacon205
      @chris-bacon205 2 года назад +68

      If a US president had that power. We wouldn't have a US president. Because we wouldn't have a US. There’s no way we'd survive.

    • @MegaMetal96
      @MegaMetal96 2 года назад +6

      It gives the opposition the opportunity to gain control, so I don’t see how that’s a bad thing

    • @jonhanson8925
      @jonhanson8925 2 года назад +72

      As an American we're very accustomed to reflexively believing that our election system is one of the worst in the democratic world. I know that I am certainly frustrated by how "undemocratic" it can feel when parties that get a minority of the votes end up in control or how everyone feels forced to vote for one of two parties.
      But then I look at Canada and see that the grass isn't necessarily all that much greener. Which is simply to say that every system has pluses and minuses, many of which you might not recognize until you see certain unintended consequences occur.
      I still believe in electoral reform, but thanks to JJ's videos and the further research he's inspired I no longer believe in any sort of electoral miracle cure that will instantly solve all that ails us.

    • @lordrisay
      @lordrisay 2 года назад +4

      It is not that big of a power and you can lose quite easily if it comes off wrong

    • @wellyforpm
      @wellyforpm 2 года назад +6

      y'all have term limits tho, sadly, we do not.

  • @charlieputzel7735
    @charlieputzel7735 2 года назад +285

    As an American, I can say that having an election in the space of a month sounds incredible.

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough  2 года назад +76

      Yours only take three months.

    • @jonhanson8925
      @jonhanson8925 2 года назад +19

      That is definitely my biggest takeaway. There are many differences between Canada and the US where I'm not sure which is better, but I firmly believe we'd benefit from shorter election cycles.

    • @charlieputzel7735
      @charlieputzel7735 2 года назад +59

      @@JJMcCullough true, though the primaries take a year at times. But most Americans don't pay attention to them. Only political nerds like me.

    • @romainsavioz5466
      @romainsavioz5466 2 года назад +3

      @@charlieputzel7735 primary + campaign

    • @CooperAATE
      @CooperAATE 2 года назад +1

      @@JJMcCullough it's probably more like a year, for some reason...

  • @djdudealex3422
    @djdudealex3422 2 года назад +231

    I don’t think the solution is having less parties, I believe the solution is a Ranked Choice Voting system which will allow people to vote there conscious well only allowing people to win by winning the popular vote.
    Edit: Thank you for all the likes everyone!

    • @cynthiakazmierzski8144
      @cynthiakazmierzski8144 2 года назад +1

      I think JJ would like to have only one Party in Kanada called the NSKAP.

    • @acetorres8787
      @acetorres8787 2 года назад +11

      Rank choice voting is a joke

    • @kadennelms8419
      @kadennelms8419 2 года назад +3

      @@acetorres8787 it really is just first past the post with extra steps. Needs to be a National list with a single seat per percentage allotment.

    • @KevinUchihaOG
      @KevinUchihaOG 2 года назад +3

      ​@@kadennelms8419 "with a single seat per percentage allotment." why?
      If there are 349 seats and you get 10% of the votes, then you get 349*0.1=35 seats. I dont understand why 1 percentage point needs to represent 1 seat.
      Also, alot of countries has a electoral threshhold. In Sweden it is 4%, if you get less votes you get no seats. Getting 5% will not give you 5% of the seats since those 5% is not 5% of votes for parties that reached the threshold. So a party who gets 5% might get 6-7% of the seats.

    • @jonathanodude6660
      @jonathanodude6660 Год назад +7

      @@kadennelms8419 not at all. its a way to ensure that the party voted in is the party that is actually liked by the majority. in the UK, the tories tell the brexit party to stand down or else they both wont win. in aus, they can both run together, and whoever is more popular will win. combining that for local constituencies with the german MMP system means that the final parliament will be fully representative of the population, while each constituency still retains their own representative with the ability to improve their area.

  • @colinbrown9044
    @colinbrown9044 2 года назад +85

    I'm Canadian and I'm embarrassed by how smug we are and self righteous.

  • @pb_and_jj
    @pb_and_jj 2 года назад +314

    As a German, i find it rather mind boggling how a lot of countries have an electoral system that so massively distorts the will of the voters while being tolerated by the public. I don't know if this is cultural, based on familiarity or just large parties not wanting to give up power.
    Shout out to my fellow mixed member proportional bros on the other side of the world in New Zealand

    • @AW-zk5qb
      @AW-zk5qb 2 года назад +35

      This is related to the English idea of representation of a district. For example, in many english speaking nations, you elect your Congress or Parliament by having elected people from congressional districts/ridings who represent their district. Essentially, it is giving each district a voice in government. IF you have that, you have to allow for the possibility of the popular vote not always lining up with representation in government. For example if there were 5 districts and Party A won 2 of them by a combined 20 votes, and Party B won 3 of them by a combined 15 votes, Party B would get more representation in Congress even with less overall votes. The only way to make sure that the party with the most votes gets the most seats is to do proportion, which means that districts can no longer send representatives

    • @professionalgiraffe
      @professionalgiraffe 2 года назад +35

      Canada is a geographically huge country with incredibly diverse economies, social issues, and even culture. The defense for congressional representation is that it prevents regional interests from over-influencing the country through highly concentrated vote. The most obvious example would be Alberta, Canada's most right-wing province with a fairly heavy rural population and very high vested interest in oil & gas promotion and corporate subsidies. However the argument can be challenged considering that the Conservative party still remains fairly popular across the entire country. The opposite of this argument is that Ontario, Canada's most populated province, seemingly gets to decide the election each time without consideration for vested regional interests, however they leave out the fact that ~40% of the country lives here. In sum, how do you balance regional concentrated interests while maintaining balance with the entire country? The system we have doesn't seem to being doing this considering how big the seat gap was between the Liberals and Conservatives yet how close their popular vote count was, but I don't think that straight representation by population makes a lot of sense, either.

    • @rorypaul153
      @rorypaul153 2 года назад +7

      @@professionalgiraffe a more Americanized system would work lol

    • @rorypaul153
      @rorypaul153 2 года назад +20

      I don’t understand it with Canada, their system is just fundamentally undemocratic.
      But i can explain why the US system is how it is. So the US is at heart a republic with each state gauranteed fair representation. The House of Representatives is a population based house while the Senate is state based. The house leans democratic while the senate leans republican. It’s all about the balance of power. The electoral college exists to force candidates to focus on more than 2 parts of the country to win, and it also leans republican. The goal was to protect the rights of the minority, meaning 51% couldn’t control the 49%. It has worked fairly well for 244 years tbh. One small hiccup in 1863 when the minority party got so mad they tried rebelling, but other than that the country has stayed pretty solid. Only 3 time has the loser old the popular vote become president too (Clinton in 1996, Bush in 2000, and Trump in 2016). If the US had a Canadian, British, or German system, the country would have torn itself apart a long time ago as they simply are not fair system, and you can tell by how solidly left those countries are.

    • @lajya01
      @lajya01 2 года назад +5

      @@professionalgiraffe I think Canada should do with the EU model. Sovereign provinces with free trade and circulation. And central body governing foreign policy, currency and citizenship only. Some provinces may be too poor to survive in such a system so some merging/annexing will be probably be necessary.

  • @griffinhoffman6746
    @griffinhoffman6746 2 года назад +794

    I like the theory everyone was so annoyed about the election that they just voted the same way they did last time just to spite Trudeau.

    • @Bartonovich52
      @Bartonovich52 2 года назад +68

      You’re not wrong. But mostly it’s because there are very few battleground ridings in Canada.
      It must be awesome to be a backbench MP in a safe riding. Your opposition running around like crazy doing meet and greets and town halls and putting up signs and spending a war chest all to get less than 5% of the votes because they don’t have the correct meaningless label.

    • @SuperKing604
      @SuperKing604 2 года назад

      I did that lol not really to spite but i liked the setup as is

    • @SuperKing604
      @SuperKing604 2 года назад +12

      @@Bartonovich52 yeah like those guys in rural alberta they get 70% or more of the votes

    • @patarp1350
      @patarp1350 2 года назад

      @@SuperKing604 Would have been better with a change in government in site of 6 years of failure and scandals under the current government who have do nothing but lie to Canadians. Would have been money spent, if the result was different and the opposition won.

    • @patarp1350
      @patarp1350 2 года назад

      "Spite Trudeau" would have been to vote him out as Pm for a different party to form government. This was cowardly by voters to still trust the government after 6 years of nothing by lies and scandals. Yet again for 2nd time i a row, they lost the popular vote. More evidence of our rigged undemocratic system that benefits Liberals/governing party to give them 2x the seats except equal proportion based on votes=seats.

  • @jonguyett3084
    @jonguyett3084 2 года назад +29

    I am not Canadian and knew nothing about Canadian politics - but now I know a lot more. Very educational ! Thank you!

    • @vsirrmk
      @vsirrmk 9 месяцев назад +3

      Well, sincerely thank you for your interest in our country 🇨🇦

  • @sirejelly
    @sirejelly 2 года назад +142

    I have found in my own personal experience, one of the big reasons for lack of change in the Canadian political scene is the actual voting system. I know a lot more people would like to vote NDP or Green, but don’t because of stratigraphic voting and not enough people in the riding will vote for them.

    • @johnmonteith156
      @johnmonteith156 2 года назад +26

      because they are ..like myself unwilling to risk electing a economic and cultural dinosaur government like the conservatives

    • @radioreactivity3561
      @radioreactivity3561 2 года назад +1

      Spoiler effect.

    • @Boby9333
      @Boby9333 Год назад +6

      @@johnmonteith156 The fact that Quebec vote BQ & get so many steats by virtue of the system mean the conservative barely have any chance of being a majority government. Mind you 2011 showed that if it's not BQ in Quebec it's NDP. Thing is no NDP leader has proven to unite and be as charismatic as Layton.
      Also I'd rather have a minority convervative than LPC they legit are the worst of them all. They don't waste our money like the LPC does.

    • @waterjade4198
      @waterjade4198 Год назад +3

      It's also pressure. People are pretty vocal about "wasting your vote" on a non popular party. I say vote how you really feel and don't allow others to influence you!

    • @lawtraf8008
      @lawtraf8008 Год назад +2

      @@waterjade4198 Nope, vote how you want while the facists are united and will vote the same way.

  • @Jaaaammeessss
    @Jaaaammeessss 2 года назад +304

    It's interesting how extraordinarily similar this is when compared with the politics we have here in the UK. Obviously there is a good reason that the two systems are so similar, but the trends you've highlighted in this video are so familiar.
    Trudeau's decision to hold a snap election after two years and ultimately fail to make gains is reminiscent of Theresa May's failure to do the same in 2017. Admittedly, it does work sometimes, as Boris demonstrated for us in 2019.
    The comparatively high vote share of the NDP, which results in a comparatively low seat count due to the distribution across the country, is the exact problem that the Lib Dems find themselves in every election.
    The comparatively low, but highly concentrated, number of votes for Bloc Québécois is very similar to what happens with the SNP. Additionally, the SNP also manage to be the third largest party in Parlament despite only running in Scotland.
    The greens having a single stronghold in Vancouver is very similar to their single stronghold in Brighton. Here, like in Canada, securing any other seats is seen as a win even though they get a reasonably high number of votes.
    You shouldn't dismiss the effect of the People's Party either. Although they've kind of collapsed now, UKIP used to occupy the same space in the UK. They also would fail to win any seats, but the number of votes they took from the Tories was enough to put pressure on them to shift to the right in several areas. The conventional wisdom is that it was this pressure which led to the Conservatives promising to deliver the Brexit referendum. Ultimately, UKIP achieved their main goal without even getting an MP elected.
    The other point of note is what you said at the end about fixed terms. We actually tried that, but with the caveat that a 2/3 majority could still vote for an early election. That ultimately changed nothing, as opposition parties tend to worry about looking weak if they try and avoid an election. It just led to a few weeks of gridlock instead, and the government are now in the process of repealing the fixed term parliament act.

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough  2 года назад +96

      These are excellent observations!

    • @mayloo2137
      @mayloo2137 2 года назад +11

      PM Trudeau's predecessor, Conservative Stephen Harper's government passed such a change, then called a snap election a couple of years later, making his law moot. Interestingly, he went from a majority to 2 consecutive minority governments.

    • @aliA-jz5ms
      @aliA-jz5ms 2 года назад

      Yeah same issues wherever the Brits were present at some point in history!!

    • @jayamber4448
      @jayamber4448 2 года назад +12

      The reason the Fixed Term Parliaments Act is completely useless is that, although a two thirds majority is needed to call an election under the provisions of the act, the government can just use a 50% majority to pass an entirely different act that overrides the FTPA and allows them to call one anyway. Which is exactly what they did in 2019 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Parliamentary_General_Election_Act_2019

    • @mohammedsarker5756
      @mohammedsarker5756 2 года назад +1

      i agree with much of your observations but I'd disagree with directly comparing UK 2017 to Canada 2021 as May lost her majority ( a far greater consequence) and there was effectively a second referendum on her Brexit deal expressed in that election.

  • @lililopez8684
    @lililopez8684 2 года назад +661

    JJ even though we disagree politically your coverage of Canadian politics is my favourite

    • @thishandleistacken
      @thishandleistacken 2 года назад +75

      Yup. It's amazing that I love his channel so much yet disagree with his politics. He does a good job at keeping things balanced and pointing out his biases when they come up.

    • @chaosPneumatic
      @chaosPneumatic 2 года назад +65

      I can say I would listen to a lot more right wing commentators if they were anything like JJ. He's even changed my views on a few things because he doesn't present his arguments in the same toxic disrespectful way most conservative pundits do.
      Imagine that: persuading people by using respect and empathy in a calm and civil discussion. I've only heard of such a thing in legend...

    • @WarlordM
      @WarlordM 2 года назад +37

      @@thishandleistacken this is what conservatives look like in Canada? Jealous from the United States

    • @isaacakhigbe5677
      @isaacakhigbe5677 2 года назад +7

      @@chaosPneumatic same here. Personally, I don’t even like politics. Im still very new to it, but to me it has always just looked like everyone angrily trying to convince the other why their political stance is the best. JJ is the only reason why I even bother trying to stay in the know.

    • @mastersonogashira1796
      @mastersonogashira1796 2 года назад +1

      Hear hear

  • @jtinalexandria
    @jtinalexandria 2 года назад +4

    You are one of the best, if not the best, chronicler of Canadian politics I've seen. Impressed at your professionalism and attention to detail.

  • @mr.universe1907
    @mr.universe1907 2 года назад +4

    I started talking about platforms with a co-worker. I was surprised when they said they hadn't read them and admitted "it didn't matter" as they already knew who they were voted for.

  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose11 2 года назад +822

    I mean Doug Ford is a massive reason why a lot of Ontarians refused to vote for O'Toole (especially in the GTA). Most people think of "Conservatives" as one party and O'Toole backing Kenney's horrendous handling of COVID-19 cost him urban ridings in Alberta as well.

    • @kgp-gaming5247
      @kgp-gaming5247 2 года назад +16

      Hi verified

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough  2 года назад +339

      That’s not a rational reason to vote against O’Toole. That sounds like people making an excuse for doing something they were just going to do anyway.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11 2 года назад +254

      @@JJMcCullough It's debatable how "rational" it is, but I guarantee you it played a part.

    • @Julianna.Domina
      @Julianna.Domina 2 года назад +75

      @@JJMcCullough I wouldn't just say that's an irrational choice, because unless the national conservative party rebukes one of their members, he still speaks on their behalf, at least to the general populace.

    • @ComputerTechnic217
      @ComputerTechnic217 2 года назад +22

      @@JJMcCullough don’t cry, don’t cry

  • @TheKingReto
    @TheKingReto 2 года назад +539

    The German electoral system is quite effective in tackling problems like this one. Every district elects its own representative, but thanks to additional mandates that are given to the parties in accordance with the national popular vote, the share of seats really fits the percentage of votes they got on the national level.

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад +21

      MMP is great

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 2 года назад +46

      @@jvanleeuwenCdn Reactionaries are reflexively opposed to things for emotional reasons. They are babies. I don't care what they think.

    • @andrew3404
      @andrew3404 2 года назад +11

      @@jvanleeuwenCdn this has the assumption, that there are rich people and poor people and you have no control over which you are.

    • @colinbisasky1134
      @colinbisasky1134 2 года назад +12

      I'm not Canadian (or German) but your MMP is quite well thought-out. I took a class in college (at university I mean) called "History of Europe 1914-present" and the professor told us of the problems that repeatedly plagued the Weimar Republic; and how they fixed them in your post-war constitution.

    • @TheKingReto
      @TheKingReto 2 года назад +15

      @@colinbisasky1134 I'm really surprised that the post-war constitution doesn't have a term limit on the office of chancellor after, you know... _him_ .

  • @mapofthesoultagme7143
    @mapofthesoultagme7143 2 года назад +5

    I think Erin and that NDP leader look older than Justin even though they are younger.

  • @kyleolcott1769
    @kyleolcott1769 2 года назад +7

    I feel like every time I've heard of a PM calling a premature election to win a majority in parliament it never goes particularly well for them.

  • @Ironbanner12
    @Ironbanner12 2 года назад +156

    "Canadian election results are out- Everybody lost"

    • @ernstschmidt4725
      @ernstschmidt4725 2 года назад +4

      believe it or not, that's a great sucess for democracy

  • @MichaelIreland
    @MichaelIreland 2 года назад +240

    Yet again, one of the most engaging analyses of our election and it's underlying mechanisms I've ever seen. This video should be required viewing for highschool students!

  • @skylerholgate4310
    @skylerholgate4310 2 года назад

    Cool man. Thanks. I dont follow Canadian politics but I found this very informative and interesting. So thanks. Bless you!

  • @MagicalMaster
    @MagicalMaster Год назад

    Hey thanks, a lot of what this country is doing was confusing the hell out of me and this really helped me sort it out. Thanks again.

  • @jaradfisher1398
    @jaradfisher1398 2 года назад +380

    "People want a system that preserves strong regional representation but also reflects the national will and these two objectives are just fundamentally at odds" - This is why "Mixed Member Proportional Representation" was recommended by the committee for electoral reform back in Trudeau's first term. It is the best system to marry those two ideals. You will still have local, regional representatives but the overall makeup of the house will reflect the national will. Of course, this will mostly come at the cost of Liberal power so Trudeau obviously reneged on his promise to bring about electoral change once this was recommended.

    • @nathanprindler
      @nathanprindler 2 года назад +17

      Bingo.

    • @DylanYoung
      @DylanYoung 2 года назад +9

      MMP would enshrine the broken party system. They should introduce ranked ballots (or range ballots) and remove party affiliation from the ballots. Back to the good old days when we had a thriving democracy :)

    • @tzarcoal1018
      @tzarcoal1018 2 года назад +18

      I like Mixed-member proportional representation, i am German and that is one thing i like about our political system.
      However....
      What JJ is referring to is the role of Quebec, under MMPR there is a local candidate, but the seat count reflects the popular vote, something that the BQ would be furious about. Under the current system the special role of Quebec is preserved, changing that could lead to new independence referendums and things like that. Also as you said the Liberals would loose, so they are not going to do ti anyway....but i still fear that could be a "topic too hot to touch".

    • @johnmonteith156
      @johnmonteith156 2 года назад +7

      The problem with this system is the fringe extremists views getting unproportionable power. There is a common mistake these days to want to throw out the old without a thought the the consequences of no recognizing what works. this how you create authoritarian systems.

    • @formicidaeinc.8075
      @formicidaeinc.8075 2 года назад +9

      @@johnmonteith156 can you explain how that relates to mmp voting?

  • @Nemothedreammaster
    @Nemothedreammaster 2 года назад +86

    You’re the man JJ! Thanks for covering Canadian politics. RUclips is saturated with so much American and global stuff it’s nice to get insights on the Canadian side!

  • @jonovison8231
    @jonovison8231 2 года назад +3

    This is the first time Ive actually heard someone say the word about in our stereotypical "about" Canadian way and I've Been living in Edmonton Alberta since 91.

  • @williamrowland9532
    @williamrowland9532 2 года назад +4

    Excellent analysis J.J - a sense of objectivity and of genuinely looking at facts and results missing in so much political commentary. Would be amazing if we had someone similar to look at Australian elections, my prediction is that our next election could be very similar to Canada's - no change in the status quo.

    • @cynthiakazmierzski8144
      @cynthiakazmierzski8144 2 года назад

      There's absolutely nothing objective about this clown. He's a troll, and no one with half a brain takes him seriously.

  • @KalebK1
    @KalebK1 2 года назад +67

    I actually laughed for like a minute when J.J. said “THE YOUNGS”

    • @lajya01
      @lajya01 2 года назад +2

      I laughed at all the clips of Singh trying to be "with it" before that.

    • @kateb2643
      @kateb2643 2 года назад +1

      Same. I'm closer to Singh's age than the demographic he's trying to appeal to, but those stunts make me cringe so hard, I almost wanna die on his behalf

  • @rotomblack8389
    @rotomblack8389 2 года назад +22

    I have lived my entire life of 38 years in south western Ontario and the way you say “About” still makes me giggle.. 🙂

    • @nobodythatyouknow241
      @nobodythatyouknow241 2 года назад +3

      I have only heard the a boot accent from east coasters.

    • @wendellcrossley
      @wendellcrossley 2 года назад +2

      I think he putting it on

    • @cinquine1
      @cinquine1 2 года назад

      @@nobodythatyouknow241 I'm from NS and literally no one here talks like that, everyone says it's a BC thing here

    • @fallout_boy__9437
      @fallout_boy__9437 2 года назад

      @@cinquine1 lol I'm beginning to think its just a made up thing. I've been all over and haven't heard anyone speak like that naturally ever.

    • @sexygeek8996
      @sexygeek8996 2 года назад

      He's from Vancouver and nobody talks that way there either.

  • @onkarkulkarni24
    @onkarkulkarni24 2 года назад +2

    Should have waited, would have gone down the hill now....!

  • @LuukJSnijder
    @LuukJSnijder 2 года назад +2

    Appreciate the knowledgeable commentary on the election. Not a whole lot of useful media coverage on the Canadian political system. Thanks for the hard work.

    • @LuukJSnijder
      @LuukJSnijder 2 года назад

      Also I think something like the electoral college wouldn’t be a terrible idea. To make it so all Canadian lifestyles, regions and cultures are represented in parliament.

  • @ct-p6004
    @ct-p6004 2 года назад +80

    Trust me, you dont want less parties. This just leads to "big tent" parties that arrogantly feel entitled to the votes of people who stongly disagree with the majority of their decisions.

    • @knightshade2654
      @knightshade2654 2 года назад +12

      "The grass is always greener on the other side" is one phenomena that will always remain true, I guess.

    • @evilemuempire9550
      @evilemuempire9550 2 года назад +6

      I’ll admit, we still have that (ie conservatives basically being the only right party) but at least our parties have to put a little effort into being competitive

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 2 года назад +4

      our news is paid off propaganda with the media bail out fund. All the parties in the debate were authoritarian because Canadians are low info

    • @evilemuempire9550
      @evilemuempire9550 2 года назад +2

      @@MicahMicahel Well that’s a hot take

  • @avicenna3994
    @avicenna3994 2 года назад +221

    One thing I learned from the Canadian election: Canadians call their electoral districts "ridings". I had to look it up, and it seems there are different names in English-speaking countries. Americans call them "election districts" or precincts; in the UK they're called "constituencies"; in Ireland they're called "electoral areas"; and Aussies and Kiwis call them "electorates". Fascinating stuff.

    • @jasper2621
      @jasper2621 2 года назад +30

      Americans call them districts, but not precincts. A precinct means something different-- it's basically a smaller voting area within a district, often used to better redraw districts and to report more detailed results from an election.

    • @etralin3dream983
      @etralin3dream983 2 года назад +6

      They are also constituencies in Canada that’s what it says in all our textbooks I guess the politicians are calling them ridings these days

    • @bobbyhulll8737
      @bobbyhulll8737 2 года назад +5

      @@etralin3dream983 we’ve always called them ridings in my 50 years

    • @etralin3dream983
      @etralin3dream983 2 года назад +2

      @@bobbyhulll8737 well all my textbooks in school called em constituencies

    • @bobbyhulll8737
      @bobbyhulll8737 2 года назад +1

      @@etralin3dream983 Not doubting that , who knows who wrote the text book .

  • @lukasspriceless2555
    @lukasspriceless2555 2 года назад

    it's called Dominion Voting Systems... head quarters in Toronto? It has worked so well here and in the States

  • @mcsnuggie
    @mcsnuggie Год назад +50

    Spent my first 18 years of life a liberal
    Trudeau's failure in nearly every aspect has made me a conservative / swing voter
    My personal opinion

    • @Awesome20801
      @Awesome20801 Год назад +15

      tbh, that pushed me to NDP lol
      rather not lose our economy with the conservatives at the helm again *cough* Harper

    • @Tricky-Dick
      @Tricky-Dick Год назад +7

      @@Awesome20801 yes that makes a lot of sense, not really.

    • @_viken
      @_viken Год назад

      @@Tricky-Dick im not even natively canadian and i understand your history better than you do lol

    • @RobertWHurst
      @RobertWHurst Год назад +12

      @@_viken who's history? Harper is famous in Canada for presiding over one of the countries best surplus budgets.

    • @brigitteschmidt4284
      @brigitteschmidt4284 Год назад

      @@Awesome20801 You realise Harper brought Canada out of billions of dollars of debt and had us into a surplus for the first time in *decades* right?

  • @RancidPolecat2
    @RancidPolecat2 2 года назад +44

    "It did nothing, it was about nothing and it cost $600 million." Okay, which comic book film are we discussing?

    • @lajya01
      @lajya01 2 года назад +4

      Seinfeld: The disaster movie

  • @mrttripz3236
    @mrttripz3236 2 года назад +108

    I’ve been waiting for JJ’s take on this. He’s my first source for analysis of Canadian politics.

    • @scottmcdonald6201
      @scottmcdonald6201 2 года назад +2

      Same

    • @diegoarmando5489
      @diegoarmando5489 2 года назад +7

      He's interesting both because he speaks well to non-Canadians and people who do not naturally enjoy politics and he's very entertaining, but he's just one very good source among many to me.

    • @Sillykat420
      @Sillykat420 2 года назад +9

      I appreciate that, despite having strong political views himself, his videos analysing politics always feel very objective and unbiased. Anyone involved in politics knows how hard it is to keep your own biases out of analysis enough that no political side finds your argument unfair.

    • @mrttripz3236
      @mrttripz3236 2 года назад +3

      @@diegoarmando5489 well certainly he’s not the ONLY one I like to hear from but he is my favourite for sure

    • @keethswat2096
      @keethswat2096 2 года назад +1

      You rely on a youtuber for political news. What has this world come to😭

  • @AlexKingOfTheDegenz
    @AlexKingOfTheDegenz 2 года назад +1

    We only have two parties in Canada.
    Greens, NDP. Liberals and Conservatives are one Party and the other one is the PPC.

  • @lisasmith6271
    @lisasmith6271 2 года назад +3

    I love this video it is so helpful to explain Canadian Politics to Americans. Keep up the good work JJ. Love you ❤️.

  • @mbogucki1
    @mbogucki1 2 года назад +236

    JJ: Canada has too many political parties.
    Germany: Halte mein Bier.

    • @alb8798
      @alb8798 2 года назад +7

      I'm Italian

    • @InfamousAustinT0
      @InfamousAustinT0 2 года назад +47

      Americans: You guys have other options?

    • @captainpep3
      @captainpep3 2 года назад

      @@alb8798 prove it

    • @alb8798
      @alb8798 2 года назад +9

      @@captainpep3 salve capitano! sono italiano e vivo a Roma, per dimostrarglielo parlerò di una grottesca vicenda che interessa la politica romana: lo sai che Roma sta vivendo una crisi che riguarda i cinghiali? Per qualche motivo Roma si trova invasa da questi affascinanti animali e quando dico invasa intendo letteralmente invasa. Una volta mi trovavo in un bar ed un simpatico cinghiale decise di entrare. Fu molto divertente ma anche spaventoso. Fortunatamente non sono eccessivamente pericolosi. La sindaca di Roma Virginia Raggi sostiene che la colpa sia della regione, in quanto è compito dell'amministrazione regionale occuparsi delle foreste e della fauna intorno Roma. Nicola Zingaretti, il presidente della regione, sostiene invece che i cinghiali provengano dalle campagne Romane e siano quindi un problema della città. Secondo il mio modesto parere questa è solo l'ennesima delle patetiche vicende che hanno riguardato la sindaca Raggi. La sua amministrazione si è rivelata un totale fiasco, non perchè non sia riuscita a risolvere nessuno dei problemi di Roma che sono complessi è difficilmente risolvibili con un solo mandato, ma perché alcuni di essi sono peggiorati. Roma e sommersa dalla spazzatura ed i trasporti pubblici sono un disastro, ormai è diventato un meme in Italia ma è tristemente vero, gli autobus a Roma prendono fuoco, non è la cosa più comune del mondo, ma è diventato tristemente un simbolo di questa amministrazione. Si vota domenica prossima e difficilmente Virginia Raggi potrà essere rieletta. Quindi sì, sono italiano.

    • @captainpep3
      @captainpep3 2 года назад +9

      @@alb8798 oh.

  • @Naturenerd1000
    @Naturenerd1000 2 года назад +6

    The Political State of things right now.
    Canada 🤦‍♂️
    Australia 🤦‍♂️
    United States🤦‍♂️
    UK🤦‍♂️

    • @ginch8300
      @ginch8300 2 года назад +1

      New Zealand in the background all alone: *Sad noises...*

  • @mrboogedy7682
    @mrboogedy7682 2 года назад +2

    I went to vote and they said I already voted. They filled out a form I had to sign. I wonder how many other Canadians this happened too

  • @spnked9516
    @spnked9516 2 года назад +50

    What the election really showcased was the Conservative party's willingness to cede ground in just about every conceivable facet of the political and cultural spheres. You'll never win any game you play if you always let your opponents define and alter the rules on a whim, and you'll never win an argument if you're letting your opponents decide the subject matter and define the language you use.

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX 2 года назад +8

      the conservative has never had a hard spoken loud leader, like robert borden in a long long time,
      tool lost because he was meek and shy and did not stand out from the crowd, just compare him with trump

  • @LexBlazer
    @LexBlazer 2 года назад +686

    Excellent Canadian election sum-up as always, JJ ...my one disagreement is we need MORE parties (with seats, preferably) in a healthy parliament....not less parties.

    • @claing17
      @claing17 2 года назад +4

      Lex! My man.

    • @FairyCRat
      @FairyCRat 2 года назад +121

      Yeah, I may be biased as a European, but PLEASE don't become like your southern neighbor. The world doesn't need another cringy 2-party system.

    • @thomasgeschke9553
      @thomasgeschke9553 2 года назад +57

      @@FairyCRat ya, I find it very odd that JJ floated the idea of fewer, larger parties considering he knows well how the two party system in the US has contributed to polarization.

    • @killzone014
      @killzone014 2 года назад +5

      I can barely understand the current party’s much less agree with any of them

    • @shodanxx
      @shodanxx 2 года назад +10

      @@thomasgeschke9553 Conservatives know the only way to win the game is not to split the vote, that's FPTP plus FPTP has many other conservative friendly attributes such as letting fewer voices speak differently than mainstream and the mainstream is the conservative's bread and butter.

  • @007robotchicken
    @007robotchicken 2 года назад +105

    Even though I'm American, I really enjoy these videos about Canadian politics. The outcome of this election wasn't much different from the 2019 election, but I find the concept of snap elections fascinating.

    • @DaraGaming42
      @DaraGaming42 2 года назад +2

      We have them in Ireland too but there not as frequent

    • @007robotchicken
      @007robotchicken 2 года назад

      @@DaraGaming42 Oh, I'll have to read up on that. Thanks!

    • @elineuenschwander4239
      @elineuenschwander4239 2 года назад +2

      I'm also American. I found JJ's channel through the suggestions tab, so since watching a few of his videos two years ago, I have been learning (on my own) about Canadian politics and feel informed enough to speak intelligently on the topic. I appreciate that he does his best to always give the most neutral view that he can

    • @007robotchicken
      @007robotchicken 2 года назад

      @@elineuenschwander4239 Yeah, JJ's great. I think I discovered him through Mr. Beat maybe just before last year's US election. He admits he has his own biases, as we all do, but he does a great job of showing all the facts and letting his audience decide what they think on their own. When I watch his videos, I feel they're always well thought out and informative, and I very rarely feel like I'm watching them through a conservative lens.

    • @shandel499
      @shandel499 2 года назад +1

      I am Canadian and am baffled. Felt like a fly by night election, if you could even call it that. SO weird. Doesnt inspire trust. At All

  • @zkittlesbutbetter
    @zkittlesbutbetter 2 года назад +3

    I was a little confused because I’m not Canadian and the liberal and conservative colors are swapped (from Canada). Just something I noticed

    • @ginch8300
      @ginch8300 2 года назад

      @Zombie Skittles 2 They're not swapped, the entire world uses the colour red for left-wing parties and blue for right-wing parties, the U.S. is the one that swapped them around.

    • @zkittlesbutbetter
      @zkittlesbutbetter 2 года назад

      @@ginch8300 Ah. Thank you

    • @ginch8300
      @ginch8300 2 года назад

      @@zkittlesbutbetter no worries fam

  • @NikolitaNiko
    @NikolitaNiko 2 года назад

    If you are who I think you are, we went to high school together for a couple of years. Blast from the past seeing you again. Great videos. :)

  • @Dancingonthesun
    @Dancingonthesun 2 года назад +93

    In 2015 I voted for Trudeau, it was my first federal election and I was told harper was bad so I voted Liberal
    In 2019 I was unhappy with the shame Trudeau had acquired for his numerous scandals, and I believed it was time for a change to conservative.
    In 2021 I was disappointed in Trudeau for calling the election at all, and I didn't buy Otooles leftist rhetoric, and also didn't appreciate the parties making vaccination political, so I voted NDP.

    • @kirali6185
      @kirali6185 2 года назад +50

      behold, the rare swing voter!

    • @korytoombs886
      @korytoombs886 2 года назад +9

      The last time I voted it was Green, but I live on Vancouver Island, one of the few places they can actually win a seat.

    • @mr.mustang656
      @mr.mustang656 2 года назад +1

      Based

    • @spotimpact.
      @spotimpact. 2 года назад +1

      @Good Goy if you didn't vote conservative then you might as well have voted liberal. That was the only way to get that idiot out

    • @mayloo2137
      @mayloo2137 2 года назад +5

      @@korytoombs886 I wonder why Green Party leader Annamie Paul didn't run on Vancouver Island. She would have had a better chance to win there rather than in her native Toronto.

  • @jwrush
    @jwrush 2 года назад +50

    As an American I always thought that snap elections were one of the supposed advantages of parliamentary systems

    • @michaelfarrington9314
      @michaelfarrington9314 2 года назад +12

      Americans often think of them as a positive whereas non-Americans tend to be less of a fan

    • @baxakk7374
      @baxakk7374 10 месяцев назад

      It sounds like a good system, but you have to remember that the snap elections happen if the party in power calls it, or other parties don't support the party in power. It used to happen often that minority governments would lose other parties and there would be elections. But recently, NDP (socialists) just blindly support Trudeau. So, even though Canadians are turning against Trudeau now, Trudeau won't call the election as he knows he will lose, and NDP keeps supporting Trudeau as they want to seem to be relevant, so we are stuck until 2025 with stupid Trudeau. In 2025, Libarals will lose big time and will have hard time coming back to power, I wonder if they will bring back Trudeau again like they did with his father.

  • @lucysky9827
    @lucysky9827 Год назад +1

    WEF has manipulated this..there is no way we have that many sleeping ignorant people in this country...No way-No how! This BS needs to end!

  • @frostyguy1989
    @frostyguy1989 2 года назад +3

    I'd say Canada does need electoral reform, because First-Past-the-Post is repeatedly leading to minority rule in your electorates and the federation at large. New Zealand once had the same problem. It became especially egregious from the late 1970s to the 1990s until our switch to MMP put an end to it.

  • @rodionmalovytsia1020
    @rodionmalovytsia1020 2 года назад +30

    Man, JJ, you always manage to present an analysis or an argument in such an interesting and respectful way. I always feel like I'm engaged in a genuine conversation.
    So thankful that I found you all those years ago and to see you evolve in such exiting ways!

    • @donaldedward4951
      @donaldedward4951 2 года назад

      If you can tolerate an opposing view see my comments at the top of this discussion.

  • @derhenri2002
    @derhenri2002 2 года назад +32

    12:42 I think you should check out the German voting system! Here, we have 2 votes:
    1.) Your regional representative (just like in Canada or the UK)
    2.) The Party (a "state" list of party members to be more exact)
    => The number of seats in Parliament are proportional to the actual share of votes and every constituency has their representative.
    Btw, as you probably already know, there will be a General Election here in Germany on Sunday(tomorrow), and that's gonna be super interesting after 16 years of Merkel and 12 years of the same coalition government.

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough  2 года назад +6

      How much of the popular vote did Merkel get

    • @jaidoni.vincent6773
      @jaidoni.vincent6773 2 года назад +6

      When Trinidad and Tobago was becoming a republic in the 70s, the commission on constitutional reform proposed this system. Sadly it was rejected and we still have the old first-past-the-post system.

    • @KB-dj2cg
      @KB-dj2cg 2 года назад +2

      @@JJMcCullough 32.9%

    • @derhenri2002
      @derhenri2002 2 года назад +3

      @@JJMcCullough Why? This will be the first election after Merkel.
      Edit: I just read on a different comment you don't know much about German politics - no problem!

    • @EcoScratcher
      @EcoScratcher 2 года назад +1

      Is there a minimum 5% threshold like in NZ?

  • @chrisstokes1264
    @chrisstokes1264 2 года назад +1

    I really like how you approached this and as an American I can agree I see the same thing in America people people are tribal and I think it is damaging democracy people don't care what politicians do at all, just what color they are.

  • @knessing7681
    @knessing7681 2 года назад +4

    You need to win 85% of Ontario's 121 seats out of 340 seats across canada, and you're more than half way to winning a majority government (170 seats) or almost a sure thing to leading a minority government. *It's ONE Province (Ontario) that controls the out come and put a Prime Minister into Office in canada.* In 2019 Trudeau Lost 90% of Canada, but won 95% of Ontario; Ontario put him back into power. It's not rocket science; it's not that hard to figure out how to win in Canada.

  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 2 года назад +67

    Another thought: Andrew Scheer tried to run as a Western Reform guy, and lost. Erin O’Toole switched to being an Eastern PCer - and not only also lost, but he got a near-identical result.
    If the definition of “insanity” is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result, then what is doing different things but still getting the same result?

    • @gudspellar3605
      @gudspellar3605 2 года назад +20

      These two heads of the conservative party sum up my view of the party right now. Scheer was an insider who lacked charisma, but represented the views of the rank and file. O'Toole on the other hand has more leadership and charisma, but feels like he is not the voice of the party itself.

    • @spgkings6368
      @spgkings6368 2 года назад +1

      its called deja Vu

    • @MrBob-bk6bo
      @MrBob-bk6bo 2 года назад +1

      Being doomed

    • @ravenlord4
      @ravenlord4 2 года назад +12

      It's not that clear cut, and the results were not identical at all. O'Toole actually picked up 7 new seats. The problem was that the PPC backlash cost him 9 old ones, and stopped him from picking up another dozen or so new ones. The Tories are between a rock and a hard place as long as the PPC are willing to play spoiler and the liberals remain charismatic. If someone figures out how to thread that needle and appeal to both sides, then they'll be the next PM.

    • @AW-zk5qb
      @AW-zk5qb 2 года назад +1

      The second time in a row the Conservatives won the plurality of the popular vote but the Liberals form government. And that's ok, they knew the rules going in. And I know that the left leaning parties combined got a majority, but that's not my point. The point is that the Canadian system allows for a party to win less votes yet govern. If the 3rd parties were a completely different ideology to the Liberals, then the Conservatives could have more votes but less seats. It's the same concept as the US.

  • @maxmessling8064
    @maxmessling8064 2 года назад +22

    I'm so gald you spent as much time covering the Bloc Québécois as you did with the other parties. Such a great gesture on your behalf knowing your views on Québecers ;)

    • @marc-andredeslauriers7687
      @marc-andredeslauriers7687 2 года назад +4

      He hates our guts.
      I still enjoy his content for what it is.

    • @davydbmeyst6554
      @davydbmeyst6554 2 года назад +1

      yup the party with 0 and 2 seat got more view time then the third party in parlement, its like if you forget nearly 1/3 of the seat you wonder why they lose...

  • @donmc1950
    @donmc1950 Год назад +3

    Good summary. To paraphrase former Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, after 10 years in office the people get tired of you and want something else, so we will have Trudeau until 2025. So we may get Poilieve ,good or bad , due to Trudeau fatigue.

  • @shirleyeggenschwiler9482
    @shirleyeggenschwiler9482 2 года назад +1

    I agree with the comment “oof”!!

  • @joshuabell7761
    @joshuabell7761 2 года назад +63

    12:42 Mixed-member proportional representation could do that. Have two ballots for regional vote and party vote and voters can cast their choices for both of those. The party vote will balance out the regional vote. It has worked in Germany and New Zealand as well as in the Scottish and Welsh Parliaments. It can also work in Canada.

    • @uweschollmeyer9409
      @uweschollmeyer9409 2 года назад

      It could be that your comment doesn‘t age well. The german system might produce a large number of MPs which are kind of unnecessary. The number of MPs supposed to be elected today is 598. The results coming in in about 18 hours might range in a total of 720 to 860 MPs!

    • @SinnedNogara
      @SinnedNogara 2 года назад +13

      @@uweschollmeyer9409 MMP doesn't require 600 MPs

    • @uweschollmeyer9409
      @uweschollmeyer9409 2 года назад +3

      @@SinnedNogara The basic question the whole thing boils down to is, whether you stress the proportional or the regional Element in MMP. The constitutional court has ruled that a distortion of the proportional representation of the party votes is acceptable only to a very limited range. That‘s why additional seats in parliament have been included to a very large extent four years ago. This time every forecast shows even more of that happening.
      The issue is somehow related to J.J.‘s point on the discretionary powers of prime ministers in Canada (or most other british style governments): Merkel‘s party has blocked any more reasonable version of MMP for purely partisan reasons. But in the end, it doesn‘t change the overall result except for some microresults (MPs holding their too small constituencies) and it adds much unnecessary costs. So Germany‘s MMP is hardly a role model.

    • @ProudRegressive
      @ProudRegressive 2 года назад

      If regionalism is ignored, Canadians can voice any horror story to an MP to a party office in Ottawa.

    • @BountyFlamor
      @BountyFlamor 2 года назад

      @@uweschollmeyer9409 One thing you could do to change the system is to acknowledge the people that didn't vote. So if turnout is i.e. 80%, 20% of seats out of 299 remain empty, and the direct candidates from the-first-past-the-post votes will thereby be reduced as well.

  • @derekrugby
    @derekrugby 2 года назад +63

    VIDEO IDEA: take the results of this election and plug them into a “potential” different system and see what the results would show. Obviously some assumptions would be needed.

    • @RuiPSGoncalves
      @RuiPSGoncalves 2 года назад

      Reforming the system:
      Method 1: give the same seats by province but distribute them using D'Hondt's method (or other of the same kind)
      Results 2021:
      Conservative 118
      Liberal: 115
      NDP: 60
      Bloc: 26
      PPC: 14
      Green: 5
      Method 2: distribute all 338 seats using the same method at a national level (each voting counting the same).
      Conservative 115
      Liberal: 112
      NDP: 61
      Bloc: 26
      PPC: 17
      Green: 7

    • @chrisvickers7928
      @chrisvickers7928 2 года назад

      I ran the numbers from the 2019 election under the New Zealand/ German mixed member system and the result was still a Liberal minority although a smaller one. I intend the run the numbers on this election that way but I'm still sure the Liberals win because Alberta and Saskatchewan have only 48 seats between them and the Liberals will still win more seats than the conservatives in Atlantic Canada, Quebec, Ontario and BC.

  • @theonlye_973
    @theonlye_973 2 года назад +2

    Is the book going to come out soon? the Canadamon one

  • @d_dizzie_druck5753
    @d_dizzie_druck5753 Год назад +2

    next election will be either more Justiflation, or P.P.

  • @johndonne8657
    @johndonne8657 2 года назад +46

    Why does he keep winning? Answer: Toronto.

    • @craneisthename
      @craneisthename 2 года назад +10

      @@grievuspwn4g3 can confirm, I live near that place and if you even say that the conservatives aren’t that bad, people will get HEATED

    • @memeteam8274
      @memeteam8274 2 года назад

      @@grievuspwn4g3 as long as doug is around, trudeau is guaranteed office.

    • @vitorsiIveira
      @vitorsiIveira 2 года назад

      Great Trudeau Ad (GTA)

    • @guitarrocksX21
      @guitarrocksX21 2 года назад +4

      I'm pretty sure the GTA is like 8 million people. So it makes sense that they're gonna be a big representation in government. People live in cities🤷‍♂️

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 2 года назад +39

    *Conclusions:* Nothing changed and voters don't even care about issues and stances anymore. They just vote for the same party regardless. This is very depressing.

    • @colinbisasky1134
      @colinbisasky1134 2 года назад

      or as Pres. Kennedy said "Party loyalty asks a bit much..."

    • @naxiusgaming425
      @naxiusgaming425 2 года назад +2

      I think this is also a big issue everywhere, because these political parties always run on polar opposite platforms, so even if you do care about the issues it barely matters. O'Toole was the first Conservative I've seen in a while even attempt to endorse some liberal ideals. But when parties are running polar opposites, we get kinda locked in whether we want to be or not.
      You worried about climate change? Gotta vote a left wing party. Pro-life? Have to vote right wing. No liberal candidate would run on a pro-life platform.
      O'Toole did try to bridge the gap but it was so "Out of nowhere" that people just didn't believe him (so essentially I agree with JJ).
      Until we get consistent leaders willing to be a 'mixed bag' this situation is stuck the way it is...

    • @abpsd73
      @abpsd73 2 года назад +8

      Right, most people are not aware what is going on politically, nor do they actually look at party platforms to find one that more or less aligns with their values. Blend in a few wedge issues to sway the unsuspecting and impressionable, and you have a diarrhea soup.

  • @velv...2940
    @velv...2940 2 года назад

    " Congratulations to you Mr PM J Trudeau " for your next term, am quite sure you will take proper political steps to lead us Canadians into the future, am very proud of you n to be part of Team Trudeau...
    Am so excited for you, to be Canadian n be in the near n distant future plans, soon, so many new things will be happening for us throughout Canada...
    Your proper guidance with your tactful lectures brings people back on their feet, if any have fallen, no matter what big or how hard the questions or how misunderstood any comment can be that's been thrown YOUR way, you wear your glove comfortably are ready to catch that ball n send it over the fence at your bat, you always, ALWAYS give the right answer, THAT n so many other reasons is why I faithfully Support n follow your ways in your Liberal Party...
    Where I want apply for Private Helicopter Pilot for your, PM Trudeau? Do I just fax it to your Office in Ottawa ?
    Sincerely,
    Velv
    NB, Canada

  • @grapefruitsimmons
    @grapefruitsimmons 2 года назад

    Because of Toronto and Vancouver pretty much. Big metropolitan areas only ever vote one way.

  • @samzaworotko3670
    @samzaworotko3670 2 года назад +97

    The issue isn't so much needing larger parties, as it's Canada getting over the taboo of coalition governments. European elections usually lead to minority governments as well, yet parties are able to set aside their differences to form a coalition government.

    • @spaceflare155
      @spaceflare155 2 года назад +3

      @@teriekwilliams2828 bruh

    • @Peglegkickboxer
      @Peglegkickboxer 2 года назад +1

      The coalition governments are not democratic as you get two very unpopular parties that will form a government over a popular government that just barely got a minority government. That's straight up theft of power.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 2 года назад +17

      @@teriekwilliams2828 Speak for yourself. The most productive government we've had in my lifetime here in Australia was under Julia Gillard with Labor being a minority government and having to form coalitions with a number of independents. Unfortunately a number of their better policies got scrapped or screwed up by the subsequent Liberal/National coalition government under Tony Abbott.

    • @shadmanhasan4205
      @shadmanhasan4205 2 года назад +5

      @@teriekwilliams2828 bruh.... they actually represent *ALL OF US* in coalition... everyone eats the pie, even though the bigger minorities get 1st pick cause... well... they got it by the will of the ppl????

    • @samzaworotko3670
      @samzaworotko3670 2 года назад +15

      @@Peglegkickboxer lol what? It's more democratic because the government is represented by all different kinds of voters. Whereas having only 2 parties only represents one and turns elections into sporting events like you see in the US.

  • @rogerwright1168
    @rogerwright1168 2 года назад +14

    Perhaps getting rid of the "first past the post" system would be a better system.

  • @Yakovlievich
    @Yakovlievich 2 года назад

    This video is bang on in its analysis.

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 2 года назад +5

    Just think about what would happen if Trudeau called another early election today.

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull 2 года назад +115

    For me small joke that continues to deliver funny is adding "the" to a group. "the youngs, the straights, the olds" hahah

  • @Abhishek-vj4ib
    @Abhishek-vj4ib 2 года назад +182

    JJ can we get a video on the German elections? Since it’s happening tomorrow, you can probably do an analysis of the results.

    • @JJMcCullough
      @JJMcCullough  2 года назад +156

      I don't know anything about German politics

    • @theabstract4936
      @theabstract4936 2 года назад +9

      Nazi party running again?

    • @LucasBenderChannel
      @LucasBenderChannel 2 года назад +11

      If you want a video on that... I actually made one this week! :)

    • @funnythehaha
      @funnythehaha 2 года назад +3

      @@JJMcCullough I’m not german but I wanna see this

    • @howdoipickaname9815
      @howdoipickaname9815 2 года назад +12

      @@JJMcCullough You didn't know anything about Indian politics either, but you made a video on that

  • @bruhmate5295
    @bruhmate5295 9 месяцев назад

    Alr. I already thought about this for UK so imma add this for Canada - add in more seats.
    These seats will basically even shit out by being tipped in a way so that the overall seats of the parliament equal the popular vote

  • @ericlee5515
    @ericlee5515 10 месяцев назад +1

    Democracy working as intended

  • @kingdonaltron
    @kingdonaltron 2 года назад +11

    10:00 “Who has established a personal fiefdom on Vancouver Island and will hold that seat for the rest of her life”😭😭

    • @shawnfisher7434
      @shawnfisher7434 2 года назад

      Yeah, I don't know about that one, she was down to 37% this time, which was quite a drop. That riding had been Conservative in the past before she won it.

  • @DiomedesRangue
    @DiomedesRangue 2 года назад +30

    I think regional representation is kind of smoke and mirrors at this point. How often does a MP vote against their party? But then again I'm very supportive of voting reform.

    • @CanImperator
      @CanImperator 2 года назад +13

      Sadly, you're right. MPs are supposed to represent their constituents views to the government, not vice versa. Party-line voting is a menace.

    • @ComputerTechnic217
      @ComputerTechnic217 2 года назад +5

      @@CanImperator but dude if they don’t vote in party lines, they won’t get promotions + will be treated badly in general by their party

    • @mayloo2137
      @mayloo2137 2 года назад +1

      @@CanImperator are you taking about all their constituents, or just the ones who voted for him/her? Our party systems don't allow much room for independent thought.

    • @jennyhoneypark
      @jennyhoneypark 2 года назад

      I think it would be good to have two MP representing the area. If one party wins over 70% of the vote, then two MP from same party goes to Parliament. If it's more like 50/50, or even 60/40, then one of each winning party goes to Parliament. Like one conservative and one liberal. I think that would represent each neighbourhood pretty well and also on a national scale? And possibly redraw the electoral district map every time census is complete based on actual population. Though, it would mean a whole lot of people sitting in parliament arguing about stuff, eating away our tax dollars lol...

    • @CanImperator
      @CanImperator 2 года назад +1

      @@mayloo2137 Also sadly true. As Rick Mercer said "Once they're sworn in, it's the last time they think for themselves"

  • @jamesdeveaux5541
    @jamesdeveaux5541 2 года назад +1

    Dominion!

  • @chrisk7050
    @chrisk7050 11 месяцев назад +1

    A public inquiry into election interference might have this not aging so well

  • @WhatamIPlaying
    @WhatamIPlaying 2 года назад +9

    I appreciate your informed and calm approach in summarizing the election. It’s refreshing to see. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼

  • @kauanduarte6136
    @kauanduarte6136 2 года назад +54

    From an outsider perspective, at appears to me that if Canadians really want regional representatives but also want a Parliament that reflects the popular vote, they would probably like to use some of the Nordic electoral systems as a work model.
    Though I don't live in that region, from what I can tell, they use multi-member districts with proportional representation and have a number of seats reserved to parties that cross the electoral threshold nationally (usually 4% or 5% or the national vote), so the composition of the legislature is as close as possible of the actual vote. Of course, that would likely means that Canada would have to adopt formal coalition governments like they do in Europe, but as stated in the video, even if most parties in Canada are not that different, people are still voting for multiple parties and aren't changing their mind about it, so I'd say it's better force them to go to formal coalitions with more than one party holding ministerial posts and make the situation clear to votes about who is a ally to who (possible coalitions would probably be discussed during the election itself like it is the case in German elections).
    About the power to call a snap election that can only be changed through a constitutional amendment, I think Sweden proposes a good solution: there the PM can also call a snap election when he wants, but the Parliament elected can only last the time left from the previous one (so, if Canada already had that rule, this new Parliament elected on Monday would only last for another 2 years instead of 4).

    • @lajya01
      @lajya01 2 года назад +9

      Canada is huge with many opposing regional issues. The federal gov. representation has always been a problem since before the confederation. There's no voting system that will resolve all those issues. The provinces should have almost full autonomy with minimal confederation gov. for foreign affairs, trade, currency, citizenship, defense etc.. Like the EU.
      Constitutional changes have been the talk of town in Canada during all the 80s and 90s but failed by lack of agreement and the topic have been buried ever since.

    • @markhanson408
      @markhanson408 2 года назад +7

      Damn straight!
      As a Canadian from Alberta, a lot of us would support a system change.
      Though I would prefer the STV system used in Ireland to a party list system.

    • @zcmini000
      @zcmini000 2 года назад +2

      I would love to keep the Parliamentary system but also directly elect a Head of State (as opposed to... The Queen...). And distribute the powers more evenly between the Prime Minister and the elected Head Of State (President?)

    • @donaldedward4951
      @donaldedward4951 2 года назад

      THEY WANT IT (mst of them) BUT THE HUGE AMOUNT OF POWER THE CURRENT SYSTEM GIVES TRUDEAU ALLOWS HIM TO DENY IT TO THEM.

  • @yo-gz8rv
    @yo-gz8rv 9 месяцев назад

    And they call these so called western countries as 'democracies'

  • @buncythefrog
    @buncythefrog 2 года назад +1

    The PPC played a great role in this election. They scared the shit out of everyone's comfort with the status quo without doing enough to actually spoil anything on a large scale.
    As long as the numbers I pulled from Elections Canada last week are still valid, the PPC lost the conservatives anywhere between 5-15 seats to the Liberals (only considering votes, not any effects they might have had on voter turnout for example).

  • @joshualieblein5223
    @joshualieblein5223 2 года назад +80

    This election was literally the friends we made along the way

  • @michaeleaster1815
    @michaeleaster1815 2 года назад +24

    6:00 Prince Edward Island is very much this way, where "Team Red" (Liberal) and "Team Blue" (PC) have little daylight between their ideologies, and there is tremendous "brand loyalty".

    • @NightTimeDay
      @NightTimeDay 2 года назад

      The whole country is like that because human nature is like that. Read some Haidt, it's good, if a little depressing lol. The ideological divide was extra annoying this year because libs pretended Trudeau was in the right for calling this election and that speaking up about it was "disrupting unity". That and the newly imported (American) conspiracies on the right.
      The intuition before reason was just extra bizarre this year overall imo.

    • @johnkilmartin5101
      @johnkilmartin5101 2 года назад +1

      It's not unheard of in the Maritime provinces for business partners to have one run as PC and the other Liberal for the legislature.

  • @Viper54K
    @Viper54K 2 года назад +5

    Wow i feel like this video aged real fast, with the trampling of our (the people's) rights that is happening right now. I really wonder how the future will see this man.
    (For the record, i didnt care about the trucker protest all that much. Kind of dumb to bother protesting something thats probably ending this spring or summer.)
    I do however care about my rights.

  • @sirpants4429
    @sirpants4429 Год назад

    Somewhat ludicrous that we vote for the party, but not the leader.

  • @Qwicksilver
    @Qwicksilver 2 года назад +186

    While, I agree proportional representation of the national electorate is important, I don’t think having fewer parties with a wider range of opinions within the party is a good solution to that. The two-party system we have in the US has both parties with a relatively diverse spectrum of opinions within each party (despite what Democrats may say about Republicans and visa versa). Yet, if anything, this diversity has voters of all stripes becoming both increasingly polarized while also increasingly less trustful or enthusiastic about either party. FiveThirtyEight had an article that explains this issue quite well called Why the Two Party System is Wrecking American Democracy.

    • @lawtraf8008
      @lawtraf8008 Год назад

      Republicans do not now. The majority of republicans have gone full extremist now which is why democrats have learned now that whatever the disagreements they may have with a democratic candidate to always vote democrat in every ballot because if they divide their vote the republicans who are united in their extremism will all vote the same way to the most extremist candidate. .

    • @Qwicksilver
      @Qwicksilver Год назад

      @@lawtraf8008 I think it is fairly clear that the Republican party has been tracking rightward basically since Reagan. They’ve become so successful as to force the Democratic party rightward (at least economically) throughout the Clinton era into the Obama era and up to the present day. Currently, the Republican party has a clear balance toward a populist, nativist, authoritarian ideology that is far-right. But, I would counter that there are many party members that still track moderate, whose voices are now just less important. People like Mitt Romney, Chris Sununu, Susan Collins, are all examples. Even Kevin McCarthy had been seen as a fairly moderate republican in the past. That last example illustrates the danger of having a two party system because the extreme wing of the Republican party has caused moderates to become more extreme in order to hold onto positions of power. A multiparty system isn’t completely immune to this happening, but it would likely cloister institutional power in the hands of the moderate parties who could differentiate themselves from the extreme wings of the political spectrum, rather than simply the current left-right divide.

    • @DaDARKPass
      @DaDARKPass 8 месяцев назад

      I would like to mention that political chaos doesn't just exist in America. In Germany, its government has to deal with a party in the coalition rebelling against the rest, and the Netherlands' government recently collapsed because one policy couldn't be decided upon. Not to mention that these governments take months to form, which is especially bad for national security - the delays in the 2000 election likely had an effect on why the government failed to stop 9/11, as forming the government took longer. While polarization may be a massive problem in America, it's not much better in countries with proportional representation.

  • @amvoriginal
    @amvoriginal 2 года назад +23

    This is an amazing well researched and investigatory analysis. Glad I stumbled upon this channel 2 weekends ago in the #Shorts Section of RUclips. I've already made it through half your content I think!😂

  • @PastorTheGathering
    @PastorTheGathering 2 года назад

    Well done. I have now lived more than half of my life in the States. Yet I still enjoy the political games back in my native land.

  • @TheWhiskyDelta
    @TheWhiskyDelta 11 месяцев назад +1

    The fundamental problem in Canadian politics is that out of the three big parties, two of them mostly refuse to try to court anyone outside of their core voter base (and as O'Tool's ousting shows, even attempting this will get you attacked by your own party). The NDP consistently refuse to explain how they would achieve their goals, or to otherwise provide realistic plans in favour of broad sweeping declarations that probably cannot be realized, while the conservatives consistently maintain outdated positions, both socially and economically, in defiance of facts, that guarantee 60% of the population would never ever consider voting for them.
    The result is that the NDP and Conservatives are mostly too extreme of a difference for most voters to consider even if they dislike their normal party this time around.

  • @scammicus7110
    @scammicus7110 2 года назад +10

    JJ, excellent job on this summary. I would highlight two challenges ahead for Canada with multiple parties / minority governments and fixed election periods. The first being the "zombie parliament" recently experienced in the UK, where the government was unable to pass legislation due to sufficient seats in parliament, and was constrained from changing that through calling an election inside of the fixed period. The other, perhaps more dangerous paradigm, is the example of the Israeli Knesset's challenges in creating a cohesive minority coalitions. These coalitions often comes at a high cost when addressing some of the more extreme political viewpoints, and has included cabinet posts for parties of widely divergent ideologies. Something to consider in a future Vlog perhaps? Again, well done.

  • @SevenBates
    @SevenBates 2 года назад +28

    Oh yeah, 2nd video in, I'm loving this shit. That was both the most concise and dense summary of this election I've heard yet. Being in the States, I have to actively look for this kind of information, and it's never convenient or entertaining like this. Hell yeah.

    • @SuperballsSupervidsOnYT
      @SuperballsSupervidsOnYT 2 года назад

      Here is a very simple comparison of our government compared to yours.
      We only elect the House of Representatives and they control everything. Essentially speaking, if you had our government structure, your senate would be a largely toothless body of appointees who are generally friendly to the party in charge, who appoints them, and Nancy Pelosi would be your prime minister, and your House would be more or less in complete control of everything, and elected every four years.

    • @craydussy
      @craydussy 2 года назад +2

      @@SuperballsSupervidsOnYT sounds awful

    • @SuperballsSupervidsOnYT
      @SuperballsSupervidsOnYT 2 года назад +1

      @@craydussy Yeah it's pretty bad

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle 2 года назад

      @@SuperballsSupervidsOnYT Actually, if the US had such a structure, all the big names on both sides of politics (Trump, Pence, Pompeo, McConnell for the GOP, Biden, Harris, Schumer for the Dems) would be in the House of Reps along with Pelosi, AOC and co.

  • @racegod69
    @racegod69 2 года назад

    Look someone with the same conclusions I had leaving the election.

  • @nonmagicmike723
    @nonmagicmike723 2 года назад +5

    "... stagnant nature of Canadian politics..."
    *laughs in February 2022*