2019 C7 Corvette ZR1 challenges McLaren 720S
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Pablo met up with an old friend who brought over his beautiful 2019 Corvette ZR1. We went out to the streets of Mexico and had some fun. Did you expect this result between the two cars knowing their stats? Other than alien technology, why do you think there was a big gap between the two cars? Let me know your comments!
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Kill after kill after kill. That 720s is a monster.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 who cares about the track
Bush league.
Must feel nice. To pushed back in that seat
@@saltyfloridaman7163 whatcha talking about? The 720s has the corvette beat everywhere except for maybe Virginia raceway.
Weight, aerodynamics, transmission, and the fact that 720’s just seem to be absolute god tier fast.
I know another C7 ZR1 you could try...it’s rapid blue in color 😜👍🏽
The Goat
Street speed already beat Randy’s 720 badly wasn’t even close. Pull up top while spinning.
Tell SS to come to me and I’ll be happy to race him. I went to him last time and spanked that azz. 😬
zonapainter Steve’s car is a 9.1 which has been highly modded !! Down pipe and tune a 720S would be a fair race against Steve !!
Zoopanties, I see you can’t have a civil discussion and only engage in name calling and acting like a 12 yr old. Once you change your ways, you can DM me on IG with an apology and I’ll unblock you. For now, take a hike! ✌️
Wow, it really makes you see how fast the 720 really is
Indeed Joe!
The wing make too much downforce
Subscribed. Corvettes keep getting heavier every generation.
C7 = 3,300 - 3,600 lbs.
C8 base = already 3,550 lbs!
The C8 Z06 needs to be a lightweight version coming in at no more than 3400 lbs. 3,300 would be a dream, but highly unlikely. Lightweight materials are expensive. Practicality requires more weight and room.
I weighed a C6 ZR1 and it came in at 3298 lbs. with just a hair under 1/2 tank! Talk about a difference.
I don't know what car right now that will touch a 720s, car is such a beast.
Car won't be touchable even in the next years either.
992 turbo s will beat it off the line in most street races stock for stock in quarter mile. The Porsche also won’t break ..
It's easily beatable. He's just not racing the right people.
@@itshiho I'm talking about for a stock car.
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Nope stock for stock definitely not “easily beatable”.
Built by aliens with British accents and a beer in one hand 👌
So many people do not realize how bad that huge wing on the ZR1 plays a role in slowing it down. It is effective in creating downforce at the racetrack in providing stability in cornering. High speed runs...not too efficient. The active aero on the McLaren (amongst many other things) makes this no contest.
Even the mclaren senna destroys it corvette still not on supercar level.
As always it's fun to go racing with you! It was a great time! The ZR1 is fast but as I found out it's no match for that McLaren. Haha. Thanks again for letting me drive the McLaren that car is very comfortable and user friendly. It's such amazing car! They both are amazing cars just in there own ways.
Thanks for coming out brother!! Always great hanging out! Both amazing cars!! 🙌👍
If I was the owner of the ZR1, I would've raced one time only and say,"Sc**w this:) Congrats!!
As always great great content from Pablo, love your videos, keep them coming
Thanks V 👍
The voice of this man reminds me of of ray romano from everybody loves ramon
Every body loves ramon. Yes
How do you make a ZR-1 look like a civic 😂😂😂
How do you make a ZR1 look like a Civic? Lol the ZR1 is a track God beating cars 3 times its price setting lap records. Bang for the buck its near untouchable really.
because its going against a 720s dumbass
@@Onyourchin101 joke of the century right here lads 😂
@@moistydoooood ZR1 destroyed the McLaren around the track.
@@BarryAllen-pd1jv Trufh hurts eh🤣
Torque is definitely not the same as horsepower, but the added torque on the C7, does help reduce the weight difference. I think the main difference in this race was the aerodynamics and the transmission. The C7 has a lot more down force anc the dual clutch transmission in the McLaren not only uses less horsepower, but it spins up the next gear, making for a much less reduced speed during shifts.I also think the McLaren has a broader power band then the C7. I was fortunate enough to get to drive a McLaren a few months ago, and you are right that Speed does come from some form of alien technology.
Great race and video as usual, Fadi. The ZR1 may not be as fast as the 720s, but it is still an awesome supercar, especially at its price point.
Your 720s is healthy and koing everyone on the streets 😎
Damn Fadi! I believe you are correct, Aliens is about the only thing that makes sense at this point! Keep up the good work!
Imagine how fast P1 would be if the 720 is so rapid
So many areas where the 720s beats it that it adds up to the result we see. Zr1s get heat soaked more as well. Their tiny intercooler that’s built into the supercharger isn’t nearly as efficient as the 720s setup.
They do NOT get heat soaked. Only the Z06 does. ZR1'S of the C7 generation ran at VIR for 24 hours and didn't run hot once only replacing fuel ans still set the lap record
Sounds like diamonds flying by that chevy
That’s what 7-8mph in the 1/4 mile looks like. Gapplebees! And I own a c7zr1.
Abe Mashal Gapplebees 😂
Exactly. Stock for stock the zr1 has no chance he’ll no car outside of a hyper car stands a chance with a 720 from a roll stock for stock
Damn I knew the 720 was a beast but to walk away from a ZR1 like that?
As expected the zr1 puts down 650-660whp stock and the 720 outs down 690-700 whp stock . Do more power ,400 pounds lighter, less aero drag and a much faster Trans with closer ratios . Results aren’t surprising here
Even 1000hp zr1s can't compete.
Aliens built it! We have been saying that all along. Good race! 👽👽👽
You called it. 😂
Awesome man! Haha that alien part though 😁
Agreed with the other comment below! There are few reasons to explain the results! The McLaren: More power, less weight, better transmission with faster shifts that uses less engine power, better aerodynamics and due to it’s mid engine lay out, it can put all the power and torque down more efficiently. Of course helped by a master mind traction control. The ZR1 is made to win at the track, where it’s a serious adversary to the 720S. On the rolling races, it can’t compete: doesn’t have the traction and the rear wing is a parachute! Let’s wait for the C8 ZR1. But I would like very much that GM makes a decision about the Z06 and the ZR1, so one could be the track weapon, like the Porsche GT3 and the other the powerhouse , like the Porsche Turbo S.
Eh the wing isn't that bad. Car can still top 200 with the wing.
400 pounds lighter is like an extra 50 hp and the auto transmission in the zr1 takes alot more hp than the dual clutch in the 720
400lbs would be equivalent to about 4 tenths in the 1/4 definitely a noticeable difference when it comes to racing
Same as every time amazing video well done Fady 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You remind me of a young ray Romano. Keep the great content coming!
I really enjoyed your video! I've been cruising through various car videos and there's way too much BS in them. Your video was a great combination of displaying the aesthetics of the ZR1, giving a few critical specifications, along with a bit of humorous personality mixed in. Just great stuff! FYI, the ZR1 is what caught my attention. I own a lower performance model 2019 Corvette Z06 and so I'm here drooling over the King ZR1. Subbed and Liked! BTW, the horsepower advantage, transmission advantage, weight advantage, and what is most likely a better aerodynamic drag coefficient is what gave the 720S such a clear win. No alien tech there. Your additional money invested in the 720S simply purchased a higher performing vehicle in a straight line race. Now, a track comparison may reveal that the ZR1's extra downforce may be a bit of an equalizer but I'm not sure on that one.
Aerodynamics are under rated.
They simply didn't put a DCT in the ZR1 on purpose, since they were already working on the C8 even before the C7 was out.
Thats gotta be the same 720s I seen in the parking lot sitting next to 2 GTR's & a old school muscle car this past labor day weekend hella horsepower all in one place lol 🏁
Indeed. 👍
@@BoostITFORward this youtube recommendation algorithm is getting outta pocket lol you got another sub though just know I was here before the one millionth subscriber
Haha, thanks bro! 🙏👍
Torque max is in the low to mid range. These races are at the highest rpm ranges. HP rules for work done over time ie drag racing. That ZR1 needs another 300 hp to win.
Apologizes for any past negative comments..🙏🏼
Weight 400 pounds has a dramatic effect on performance and acceleration.
Gearing and transmission shift speed. Not even a contest with the GM 8 speed auto verses a dual clutch.
Aerodynamics and coefficient drag which play huge factors the more speed that's involved.
The ZR1's playground is a racetrack.
Great runs by the way keep the videos comming.
Agreed.
DCT in the 720s is nite and day different than the auto in the vette...its a good part of it as well as the lighter weight and higher hp... torque will help balance that but in this case you would need alot more than 150ftlbs as evidenced by the gap
Agreed.
Would really like to see the 720s run a new Porsche 911 Turbo S. It would be by far the most evenly matched race for two stock cars yet. Please make this race happen and expect close to a million views before the year is out.
Would love to make it happen!!
Hell yeah! Been waiting for this one!
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Oh man..... I so want a 720s..... Awesome stuff
I hope Chevy is watching this.....😂😂😂😂😩😩😩😩
great content as always!!! keep it up
Lmao alien technology haha I’ve been saying that man. But man that is a huge difference in weight and that makes the difference in a win or lose. You also have to consider the weight of the driver if he weighs 200 that’s close to 4,000 😳
He is 190 lbs, I am 170 lbs. not too far off.
BoostITFORward either way bro
The 720s is fast wonder exactly how much horsepower he would need to stay with you
I think another 175 whp for an even race if I had to guess.
Hey buddy I want to see what your lambo will do on drag strip or standing half/one mile
We want more content on bull
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Also big love to you boy 💪💙
Subscribed and Watched mostly all your videos within few hours
Thanks bro! 🙏
Like Mike said when he owned one its like the 720s has alien technology as well LOL.
Love all your video's, just ignore the haters. or should i say the childlike haters. your 720S is incredibly bad ass. you have incredible assortment of muscle, it must make the (jealous) natives restless. keep these coming !
Rolling racing is more about HP than TQ, that's why. At that point its more about HP/weight than TQ. That huge difference in TQ for the ZR1 doesn't matter as much at speed.
Great runs, my car keeps on surprising me !! 👍💯
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I like how he compliments the cars he's going to race against, and then destroy them on race day.😂
Its all posturing sad you don't get it
Awesome Video! I’m not hating, this is just my 2 cents:
The Mclaren 720S = ~$300K
C7 ZR-1 = $129K.
If you added the LMR or RPM 1,000 HP package which is ~$25K so for $155K -> THEN do a race, I guarantee the results will be different and for 1/2 the cost of the Mclaren. I’d LOVE to see the 720S race Mike’s ZR-1 (Street Speed 717). The Mclaren puts the power down AMAZING though - the Corvette for its price is probably #1 for putting the power down as well (I’m speaking from experience, I’ve had multiple supercars, multiple 740WHP Camaro’s/ZL1/Hennessy/Viper/etc. now I have a C7 Z06 that is modded. I raced a Mclaren 720S at drag strip before I did the last set of mods and we were really close. 720S did win, but by only 0.2 seconds in 1/4 mile (2 car lengths).
I just saw that Street Speed 717 *DID* race this 720S per another comment and many replies confirmed it. As I said in my comment, the ZR-1 won hands down - again, for 1/2 the price. With that said, I honestly will probably buy a 720S someday as it’s an amazing car. My only fear is from what I’ve saw/heard was there are issues with reliability and little issues going wrong.. I’d love to hear @BoostITFORward give me his 2 cents on reliability and any issues. (Obviously, the C7 Z06 is known for overheating and going into limp mode... so far I’ve experienced that once at track but I also found out my thermostat was stuck closed - since that was changed, it’s never happened again and I drive my cars a lot and hard). Beautiful 720S though.
No issues after 4500 miles. And I never raced SS717 in my 720S. I’d whoop his little ass like I did when I raced him in my TT Huracan (and he deleted the video off of his channel). Video is on my channel though. 😬
@@BoostITFORward he'd whoop that 720s without trying.
It's a UFO bro. That car is unexplainable.
Multiple reasons why 720 beats ZR1 in roll race or from a stand. Weight vs HP, rear engine vs front, DCT trans vs traditional torque converter. It takes alot of Horses to make up weight and when the transfer of HP to ground or rear engine is quicker than front engine to rear wheels. This is why the C8 vette with 495 hp is 1 tenth slower at worst than 755hp ZR1.
The car is really good and sophisticated 😊 Hope to have that in the future
Well first those cars are not 10hp off. Seen the 720 dyno in humid summer Florida and go 710 to the wheels. Vette dynoes around 650 (in not so humid conditions). 720 is a monster and severely underrated from the factory.
The mclaren looked like it made 120 more hp.
show off! hahaha. great race though. now i want a 720S!
Good stuff! Zr1 is a fatty 😳 I didn't realize they were that heavy
The gearing of the 720s is far superior, and it shows the difference between basic engineering and F1 cutting edge advanced engineering. It’s that simple
I agree. It comes down to the total engineering package of one car vs the other. It’s every engineering aspect working together to ultimately provide the end result. Regardless, I do love the ZR1. Amazing bang for the buck and looks 👌
It all comes down to the price difference in this comparison. There's only so much a manufacturer can do for a 140k car versus a 300k car.
Practicality means bigger and heavier car. Cheaper car means heavier materials. Low revving, big displacement engine means longer gears to reduce spinning, offset low redline to extend time in each gear, and keep MPGs from getting too low.
Love your videos 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you brother! 👊
Doesn't seem to me the guy n the ZR1 is actually making an effort. Sounds like he's pulling off the power because theirs no exhaust noise at the pull of the ZR1...no way. My opinion.
This is where you are wrong. A car with more hp than torque will always be quicker since this gives a car acceleration and speed. This is why low-end torque becomes important for better acceleration in many scenarios. Higher torque doesn't mean one vehicle will necessarily be faster than another, though. So Mclaren left ZR1 by 10 cars because of 1- more horse power. 2- less weight. Given both cars wight the same, the ZR1 will destroy Mclaren. Plus, that ZR1 is far more better looking than that Mclaren.
On paper the ZR1 has more HP but the dyno paper tells a diff story
Pretty much what I expected anahilation 😂
No more “King of the Hill!”
So this is what Ray Romano has been doing.
I'd like to see the 720's vs a Ferrari F8 Tributo. That would be a good run.
No need for that
What is all of that whistling? 🤔
I've seen and heard several 720S races without hearing this.
Clean ride tho!
They all do it, I’ve been in several 720s and followed them at the track and all of their turbos make that noise. Listen to the hundreds of DragTimes videos as he passes cars, exactly the same. In fact listen to any full power driveby on RUclips and you’ll hear it.
Sad to see you don’t have the 991 anymore
Ya, that was a good one.
Weight and duel clutch transmission is the difference and $400,000 compared to $140,000, you get what you pay for in life
Aerodynamics more than transmission the 8 speed up shifts very fast .720 s is a beast and very light .
Z06 Beast ya but man outside of price, look at the figures. Consider the power, torque, weight, trans, aero, etc. it doesn’t completely add up. It does a little, but not 10 cars worth IMO. At the end of the day, it’s just the overall package in the 720 just works together superbly well. That’s really what it comes down to IMO.
BoostITFORward definitely the most impressive car ever build, can’t argue with that. I was at @mod2fame roll racing event last year and it was cold outside and everyone was spinning but the 720 was hooking on a 20” tire. American cars were spinning on 15” tires.
It’s a sweet car for sure bro. Your Vett ain’t bad either. 😳😂🚀🚀🚀
BoostITFORward thank you men but like you said for a stock car nothing beats the 720s. I have a full build going on over here
Just from the way how the ZR1 driver is holding the steering wheel you can clearly recognize he is not a pro racer
Biggest difference i see is the price tag. You have 150,000$car against a 300$ car ( ruffly) what works you have if you put another 150 into the Vette to make it fair?
It’s got dat Charlie sheen Tiger DNA
Torque is negated once you are above a certain speed. The 720 is more aerodynamic and has way more advertised power and a more efficient drive train and less weight. Simple.
C7 zr1 is always the car for me .
After all it's less price than the 720s & great bang for the buck . & I don't like European exotics owners stupid attitude.
Alien technology 👽🤣🤣
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Hey, where is Pablo? We missed all the great videos. Any good videos coming out soon? We can't wait, it's not the same without Pablo videos.
Car is in the shop getting a clear bra. Pablo will be back shortly! 👍
@@BoostITFORward oh man, thank you for the update, was getting worried a bit. Weekends passed and my Pablo videos are not out. Thanks for the update
$299,000 vs $150,000. I would hope so
Torque does not matter. ZR1 makes more torque down low yes, but at the rpm both cars ran at the race, since the 720s makes more power overall, torque in those ranges is probably pretty similar (even if the 720s engine turns faster). Difference mostly comes to transmission, weight and aero.
The ZR1 makes a lot more torque. 720 makes peak 530 wtq or so while the ZR1 makes about 100 more than that. You need torque to make HP since torque is a function of HP. I agree in a roll race HP is more important but torque will help you get out, and HP helps keep you going. Being that the ZR1 didn’t spin at all and we ran from his spot, I was expecting it to jump out pretty hard on the hit.
It is not only weight and power. The mclaren also has a way better transmission too
That’s insane!
Everyone knows (or they aren't a car guy) that the 720s is so much faster than a stock ZR1. To beat a 720s, you need to do what Streetspeed717 did to his (full bolt ons, cam, + pully, retuned - 1000 hp crank or so). I believe Mike's C7 ZR1 sent his car back to LMR and they may have also rebuilt the motor, heads, cam, full bolts, pully, and retuned). Not sure what it's making now but it was making around 900 rwhp (something like that). Who knows what LMR is doing to it now. But before he sent his car back to LMR, he raced a 720s, and he walked it pretty good. Also that huge wing really slows the car down at higher speeds. It adds so much downforce like bags of cement in the trunk. If that guy is into highway racing, he needs to take off that wing. That wing is for a road course with a lot of turns and really slows the car down over 100mph in a straight line.
Looks like your really enjoying your car. That’s rare. Keep up the good vibes
Thanks Alex! I love this thing and have always given it so much respect! 🤙
BoostITFORward I’m going the route of your previous car - the 911 turbo s - you had it “boosted” in my area I believe - ny / nj. Recommendations would be great. I’m open to year of the turbo to purchase. Any Thoughts lemme know. Cheers
991 TTS. If staying with VTG turbos, get 991.2. If doing GT turbos (Garrett, etc), Dave the cash and get a 991.1. Go to AIM performance in NJ. Good luck!!
The real reason is aero dynamics of the 720s. It slices through air like butter. Zr1 had too much aero drag plus the weight difference of course
Best vette ever made
Wow.. I hope I don’t run into Pablo on the streets in my c7 z
How many miles on Zr1
Herd HP limited fist 500 miles?
The 720s is very fast in a straight line. No doubt about it. However, take those same cars to a road course, and you are looking at the ZR1's tail lights given the better aero and torque. As evidence, just look at the Ring times.
Would love to look at the ring times...... unfortunately neither of these cars has an official time (I know the 720S doesn’t)
@@jameswillard1 With racer Christian Gebhardt at the wheel, the 720s made the pass at 7:08. Better R Compound tires will definitely lower that time. However, around the ring, it got beat by the C7 ZR1 by 4 seconds (And the C7 ZR1 lap Mero made was not a clean lap at all, on a wet track, as he well documented). Mind you, this was the full "race" version 720S with all of the carbon on it (Race seats, and CF package) that turned a 7:08. The first 720s posted a 7:14 ring time.
ok here we go... HP= top/higher speeds ft.lb torque= bottom end lower speed acceleration. the vette having more torque at higher speeds won't matter. Am I one of the few that understands the insane drag coefficient of that ZR1? If you take all that down force the massive rear wind front splitters and everything else umm lets just say that Vette would kill that 720. The 720 is a masterpiece of art no lie but, The ZR1 is purpose built to have massive down-force and destroys some G's in a corner rather than designed for imma go really fast in a straight line... which nearly any jo schmo out there can drive in a straight line. just my thoughts on that. Also, the power to weight ratio would be much more even between the two if you took off the all the aero to the ZR1. But, giving credit where credit is due the 720 is a beast none the less. A very beautiful and well engineered machine.
Wow jajaja alien tech.
Weight diference also cd drag coeffiecient and gearing must make the diference
Im sure that ZTK aero package isn't helping either 😕
Dragtimes already did this race. You should of raced a tuned ZR1 then it would of been interesting.
I got a local getting a 1000 HP package on his as we speak. Stay tuned!!! 👍
@@BoostITFORward A race with StreetSpeed 717's ZR1 would be exciting to see!!!! But that's modified vs. stock-still would be exciting!
@@armandosolis3560 Mike raced against stock 720s already. Easy win for ZR1.
People should do modded 720S Vs modded muscle cars now 😈
makein jhonson it would be good to see tuned vs tuned. The ZR1 has had serious mods to get ahead of the 720s but the 720s just needs a remap to change that outcome. Both great cars in their own different ways!
I know of a Le Mans blue full bolt on n\a c6 zo6 in the Detroit area that would give the 720 a real race ...
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The ZR1 got taken down so effortlessly, albeit to be fair the 720s is close to 400 pounds lighter with a bit more HP than the ZR1, 680 ATW, falls somewhere between 760-780 at the F/W. So the 720S has more power/weight advantage of around + 11-12 %
Utterly shocked an Infiniti takes up space in your garage.
Did that zr1 really challenge you, or do you just challenge everyone? I think we all know tha answer to that.
Great video 🚀🚀
Thanks bud! 👍
Corvette needs about 900hp to keep up with McLaren also remember that the McLaren has DCT Trans that is one of the fastest
Man the hate for the 720s is real with these vette fanboys. If the 720s is this fast, I can only imagine what the 765lt would do. And not to mention the Senna.
Weight is important. I’ve seen a similar hp c6 zo6 pull on drag times before
@@MM-su4gu exactly get a c6 zo6 that weights the same as a 720 and tune it to the same power that the 720 has so it’s and equal race and the vette will win because =tq= midrange = power under the curve
Zr1 kills hellcats same way the 720s is doing to the zr1, crazy
Does zr1 have wheel hop support kit?
More hp, less weight, faster shifts and better aero and these are the kind of results you get. Just based on power to weight alone, the car would need 760ishwhp to hang. Would probably need another 40 to overcome the trans/aero advantage. In short, the zr1 would likely need 800whp to beat the 720s
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They have had c7 zr1 with intake and wing/passenger seat delete run 9.6 at 147 in the 1/4 mile 🤔
Really? Link?
@@techmaster777 Even the guys on Corvette forum called BS on the mods . That car run the same times as every other Zr1 with 1000hp package .