Trying to FIX a PlayStation 2 Slim - No Display on TV
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Hi, in this video I attempt to repair a PS2 Slim which does not display on a TV. It has no picture or sound, just a black screen but it is powered on.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series.
Many thanks, Vince.
You definitely do not waste our time on these videos Vince. Not every repair is successful, and the fact you show your failures just proves that we aren't magic and we can only do our best. Great video as always
Geat video!
I just love these “trying to fix”-episodes! Every new video feels like a tiny adventure! Keep up being awesome Vince! ❤️
He's my favorite RUclipsr
He makes it so simple
Heyy hello! If you like this maybe you will like the content in my channel as well.. please check it out!
@@DirenDeez ooo
"Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs.", mate, i would beg to differ, the patience and methodical way you approach this sorta thing is very impressive....its almost therapy watching these!
I'm an electronics engineer and I agree .. Vince's patience and methodical approach puts me to shame 😂
So true brother lol. Totally relaxed me. 😁😁😁
Excellent video, we went from capacitor changes to gpu reflow to gpu reball, had me on the edge of my seat. Also loved the start where we are shown his good working unit, that we all know will be used for parts. Keep up the great work.
Vince, this is NAND related. the BIOS is searching, that's what sends power to image port, getting rid of the "no input" on screen, from there it reads NAND for OS, which shows as the Playstation startup screen. It was a prevalent issue with the PS2 Slim.
Thanks Joe :-) Do you know which chip on this board is the NAND and whether it can be swapped from another PS2 Slim. I know it is too late for this PS2 but it might be useful for future fixes :-)
Finally a PS2 video!
I work fixing those and Power On no signal are a PAIN. But u don't have one of those.
The NAND on this PS2 is bad!
100% not a video problem.
Try to reflow/change the chip.
Also, at the end of the video, most likelly u got a short on the CPU
@My mate VINCE So recently "Xbox" has released a bunch of faulty controllers specifically the (Xbox series 2) and with this series 2 controller there are many faults that lots of people are having. Most notably the( Lb and Rb buttons) the buttons them self typically arnt broken however tend to be 80% unresponsive unless you used so much pressure you'll more than likely damage the controller. Other faults tend to be the face buttons, if you would please look at one controller and see if you can fault find the trigger Buttons on the back. Sure you'll be a Microsoft community hero, because everyone is scared to lose the warranty and most of us arnt experienced like you. Sorry for the long paragraph, but I feel like of you were to do this you'd push Microsoft in a direction to make reliable controllers instead of money grabbing us for faulty flashy controllers.
@@ricardopeacockii719 return, refund if you can even the elite controllers are trash. There is a class action lawsuit going on right now on elite controllers
@@poopfeast-kg1lv I wish I could return, but Walmart decided to not give me a warranty I paid for what do I do now
Thank you Dandy, which one is the NAND? I searched online and I couldn't find it. Also can it be lifted from a working console and swapped or does it need to be flashed or something :-)
hey Vince, nice try at BGA rework! I think you did a pretty decent job on reballing. One thing I'd say, once you reballed it, you should have put flux on the chip itself and given it another heat to help align the balls and make them more uniform before placing the chip to be soldered down. This also helps you ensure that no shorts happen in the soldering process
Thanks for the tip Dark Samus :-)
I’m amazed since the day the PS2 slim came out how much they made it smaller compared to the original console. Quiet impressive.
Liking the new music! Nice change from the usual classical!
And it's still interesting watching this videos, even when the repair
is a failure. I, myself, just like watching the process of fault-finding
and attempting a repair by replacing various components.
With the large number of more 'professional' RUclips channels,
it's always a nice a find and a reminder of the humble beginnings
of RUclips, when you find an amateur channel, just having fun.
It's far more interesting not knowing the outcome of the video, anyway!
Anyone know what song that was? Singer sounds familiar.
@@brianoliver9224 The song is Pressure, by Candelion. It's part of her brand new album, just released this year.
I always chuckle when I hear you say “I’ve been beaten!” And there’s an hour left in the video. Love the videos. Just started watching the channel. Thanks for all the really great information you share.
Try to check the USB ports, sometimes a USB port can make shorted to the board. Also it could be the controller ports. Nice video!
i work with Xbox 360 hardware, 90% of the time when there is no power, its almost always the USB ports. bend them so they aren't touching the port itself, and watch it spin to life. gamers destroy a lot of USB ports when they rage in COD4
As the proud owner of a non-working PS 2, I do appreciate these videos. (I am fairly certain that my problem relates to a dirty laser, but I have not yet taken it apart to test my theory.)
My PS2 barely works, it just needs a new laser though.
You could get Free Mcboot on a memory card and then load disc images from HDD (fat) or from a PC fileshare over ethernet (USB is too slow).
Dazed I could, but I’m not going to.
Laser is fairly cheap and not hard to replace
@@earlspencer7863True but they have a limited lifespan. After the new one goes, it needs to be replaced yet again. Eventually there will be no more and then what? In the garage it goes
I would say that even though you didn't fix it, you learned a good skill. Your videos are high quality. Hi!
The PS2 display cable is proprietary, but it's pretty basic. As Vince found out, the Composite cable only has four wires, and the Component cables you'd use for 480p output looks exactly the same but has two more wires.
The older PS3 also uses this same proprietary cable as the PS2 if you don't want to use HDMI, so it's backwards hardware compatible regarding the display.
Keep up the good work. If someone thinks you just wasting our time should not watch your videos. In my opinion they are always interesting and educational. I learned few things from them for example I was able to change the analog stick in my swich joycon. Thank you mate.
"I'll be the first one in it" - the dream of every man.
"Oooooh, naughty naughty".
- My Mate VINCE
😜🤪😂🤣
@@eepykami you’ll get it one day lol
@@eepykami one of the slim ps2 models has 3 screws instead of 4, i tried to put one there thinking someone removed when i realized the case had a bump and it wouldn't close with a screw in it.
Thanks for the hard work. Actually fixing it would be a bonus but not necessary. There is great value in determining what isn't the problem. It might be mentally rough but learning the hard way is learning that sticks
ive always loved how beautifully easy and straightforward it is to strip down a ps2
ive always loved how beautifully easy and straightforward it is to break down a ps2
Not the fat version 😅😂😂
Best console to work on. Laser replace easy peasy.
My Mate Vince I learned something new from you today. I had no idea that you could use a universal stencil like you did and just push the balls off that aren’t needed. I’ve struggled with trying to tape the areas off and it never worked. Thanks brother this was a good try. I like that you show, what others may not, the failures that every technician deals with from time to time. Thank you 🙏🏻
I loved this console.. The PS2 Slim was one of the best.. tiny and sleek And it was the first console I modded myself with a modchip when I was 15. So many memories!
Mine has the exact same issue, have been searching far and wide for answers. Thanks for your help! Hopefully one day it will get solved
I have 4 PS2, but unfortunately they all work fine. Best console ever. Interesting to see Vince fault-finding around the board.
James Higgs
Unfortunately?
@@peenSuperLoser yeah, I like fixing stuff :)
You really need a scope to debug problems like this. Your TV detects a signal, which means the line sync is generated by the video signal chip you de-soldered. This chip is working (as you proved) , it just doesn't seem to get any input. The input of this chip comes from the GPU. You need to take your working board and compare signals one by one. Probably your GPU is not sending any signal to the video signal chip because your CPU is not booting correctly. You can also use your scope to check the ripple on the CPU supply voltage, or the chip selects (and data and address lines) toward the ROM (NAND) memory.
Corrupted nand. Scope would be nice but this one was easy to diagnose since it booted occasionally.
Same issue on my ps2. But it generates no output in the video(4015 chip). I also checked audio with scope and there is no activity on those rails also. I then pointed at the 4015 input and there is nothing there either. All the chips get warm. Lens assembly moves up and down in a controlled manner. But no signal. on the AV.
hey mate, been following you for like ... ever. just wanted to send some appreciation for this kidna content, gave me the confidence to do and learn repairs myself. ur awesome keep up the learning!
Vince, thank you SO very much. You have gone through the whole thinking process and given us all that knowledge about problem solving techniques. You have no idea how important your videos are for beginners like me. May the Lord bless you my friend 👍
Nice attempt Vince but don't give up on that GPU reball because I think you almost had it. It would be interesting to see you give it another go, just to see if it could actually be done. Then check for blown fuses and the NAND as the comments seen to point towards and I reckon you could actually bring that PS2 back to life. It would be amazing if you could.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching you attempt to re-ball the chip, it was a good learning experience and fun to watch.
We learn from your experience regardless of the outcome! Keep up the good work.
I was not expecting to see a reball job! Well done vince! You’ll be fixing ylod and the ring of death soon!!
He did do ylod, its not the gpu its the tantalum caps that need replacement. People thought it was the gpu reflowing because the caps are right below the gpu and reballing the gpu heated the caps and brought the ps3 back to life temporarily
Its the same with red light errors on an xbox 360, some are gpu and cpu related and others can be dodgy caps, southbridge, ram memory and even iffy hard drives...
This video was NOT a waste. It really is still a learning experience even if we dont fix anything. Cant win them all is what i always say.
100 percent right best to show the failures.. that's what real life is all about... how disappointed would people be if they thought every time they try to fix something they will succeed? and maybe not for others but i have learned some things from this video even though it didn't get fixed.....like how to even begin tracing a fault... at the start i was thinking where the hell is he even going to start with this its such a weird fault but then you go right down to the single video input signal on one single pin and follow the whole thing.. better luck next time :)
I'm an electronics technician and I have a special appreciation for the PS2. Check the CXM chip, the 4335ksz audio chip, the components close to the video output, especially the capacitors. Check the resistor arrays and check the capacitors near the joystick connector. Finally, reflow the graphics chip.
Hi @conversafiada6583, I have the same slim ps2 with an all time black screen. I checked all fuses, resistor arrays, capacitors next to ram chips, I also replaced the BIOS chip with one from a working console and still all it gives is a black screen. I did also test out the original BIOS chip from the black screened console and soldered it on the working console and indeed it works hence the BIOS is totally fine. Discs read, fan spins and ramps up after some time, I'm wondering if you have any suggestions on something I may have missed here as I'd love to get this console back up.
Thanks a ton!
You can't win them all, but we always learn something new with each foray into the technical repair realm. 100% enjoyed this video and all of your content, never stop doing what you love!
Was great to hang out with you Vince and I Always enjoy the show!
Thank you Clifford :-)
Use some kapton tape to secure the stencil to the chip when doing a bga reflow, cover up the unnecessary sockets with the tape too. Yes this will take some time to do but it guarantees a clean adhesion and minimizes the amount of balls to what is needed.
Thanks for the Video. I have a Slim PS2 Myself. Last time I used it touch anywhere near the video cable port and you can hear horrible humming on the TV but touch it again it goes away. Now I know what it looks like and I was thinking about trying my hand at fixing.
1)Check for damages on the AV cable and/or the AV port.
2)Check for dried/cold joints on the AV port. If you're lucky, you'll just need to add solder. If not, some cold joints need to rebuild the trace. Also check Power supply port, they're prone to have cold joints due to the way Sony placed them on the PCB.
Damn, 1:32AM for me right now... Still I hope it will be a great video...
damm uk idiots
Damn bro I haven't heard the ps2 start up in like 10 years bro😂😂
Awesome try to fix PS2 slim video sorry to hear that you couldn't fix it but hey it was a learning experience for all us watching. Anyway can't wait to see more videos.
still such an interesting video without the fix, the reballing was especially interesting. Thanks Vince
Nice try on bga!, you've changed every single power regulator ic on the board except the big 5v LDO in the middle which is responsible for audio and video chips
I was rooting for you! And like kotm3 says, wasn't expecting to see a reball job. Certainly an excellent first attempt (I've never done it, I lack the skillset) - thumbs up for attempt!
Thanks Vince I thought it was only me that couldn’t fix stuff 🤣. New to electronics and most of the stuff I’ve tried can’t find issues or change components and it still doesn’t work, but I will keep persevering 👍
Vince your videos are awesome and what you and Steve is doing made me to watch every single video that you both upload,Thank you once again,being fan for a very long time Mate
No idea about how reballing works, but I think I would just put little strips of masking tape over the unused holes so the balls don't go in them, and as you said, do it over a container to catch the excess who fall off
I’m glad when he uploads it brings joy to a bad day
It might not work, but I've never watched anyone reball a chip before, so that was interesting!
I know it's a bit late now, but as you mentioned at the ending..
Something to try in the future.
Hope this help either yourself or a viewer. I am only having a calculated
stab in the dark with this. But...
Did you notice the red light came on the controller but only when a picture appeared.?
I don't know but is there a reset / rst line outlined in the schematic.?
It should be a brief voltage change on that line at power on of the switch.
Very important as all of the clock and data lines will then sync with
each other.
The voltage change might be just off giving the reset voltage but if
you notice a "Flutter" on that line then help it out a bit by briefly taking
that voltage to the potential it was trying to "Flutter" towards as it switches
from standby.
As you know a line above the reset or rst on the schematic indicates the
voltage goes to ground to activate a reset.
X and Y capacitors are special Safety capacitors and are designed to fail closed or open respectively. Changing one for a normal electrolytic will work but you will not have the safety characteristics as designed by the manufacturer.
in PSUs, connected to mains/earth yes, but THIS has nothing to do with capacitor classification, that's only the batch/date-code
I agree with you, Vince, it makes it more interesting wondering whether you will be successful or not. Still interesting to watch even the times you don’t manage to fix what you’re working on
Possible you blew a fuse when you accidentally bridged the GPU during the reflow? Just a guess from my limited knowledge on ps2 faults and the green to red light.
Good video Vince. I think if you try to reball you need correct stencil and use solder paste that is less messy and more acurate vs the solder balls. And thanks for your vids
so a little tip when using a ball grid array jig is to put sticky flux paste on just the areas you want the solder balls to stick to and that will give you better solder
BGA, You need to clean the pads on the chips so that they all nice and shiny , not greyed like on 1:04:22 top left corner and on the top row , before putting on the stencil put a very thin layer of flux on the chip then the stencil then the balls after heating and melting the balls ,Remove the stencil remove all the balls that is not used, Apply flux and reflow all the ball so that they become nice and round again, Great video 👍😊
Sounds good Anonymous, thank you :-)
No apology needed Vince! Always enjoy your videos.
Enjoyed this one as always, Vince. Agree totally with what you said at the end - it’s more exciting when you don’t know the outcome. I’m always rooting for you though! 😊
Just found your channel I do the same type of repairs. This video was AWESOME.
34:32 the three “test points” appear to have traces hidden underneath. If you use the < > keys, you can pause the video and go frame-by-frame. I see small lines that appear to be traces going under the much larger chip when there is a glare going over that area.
I had the same ps2 slim on 1 second and right away off issue a while back, thanks Vince now i know why my ps2 stopped working!
Use masking tape to cover the surplus holes when reballing.
That might be hard
yeah heat resistant tape would be a good idea for covering the holes not used by the graphics chip.
I was thinking Kapton tape, but actually it doesn't matter. Tape over the areas that don't need solder, fill the remainder, then remove excess balls and the tape. I'd have also tried reflowing the balls once the stencil was removed, that might've allowed the couple of slightly off position ones to move right on to the pads. Good video though
This is an after work video for me, thanks Vince
Love these videos vince!! I’m currently in the works of an Xbox one with a cracked hdmi replaced it but the pads have come off the board so I’m currently running 8 tracks to the pins! Definitely something I would never suggest doing 🤣
Hi vince, great vids keep up the good work..always love the satisfaction response from you when you manage to repair stuff 🙂. Just out of curiosity what brand of flux do you use?
I repaired several ps2 slim with the same problem and you only had to reball the chip cxr726080
Should that solution work on a 9k series with audio but no video?
i have one gh-052-51 board, what could be the problem ? is a bit kind a different than this board
For real?
Just by trying to fix an PS2 SLIM i'm loving this vídeo.
I'm way behind on this video but when it comes to reballing remember to apply paste flux to the area "pads" you want the balls to stick to before using the stencil, dump off the remaining ones, carefully remove the stencil then apply heat to get them flowing.
This was a very nice video, Vince! I also like the Music Choice, you did on this one!
It also looked like the reballing of the GPU could've needed some light pressure on the chip itself while bringing it back to the board. The distance between the board and chip did look some kind of too large. Maybe some balls didn't contact correct because of that. But this is just a guess. I was never able to do a reball myself.
Keep doing these kind of videos! These are the best!
Hi mate, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to reflow the balls on the chip after you take the stencil off before putting it on the board as this will even them all out.
you don't have to, but it looks better and leads to less risks of the balls bridging when you re-solder it to the board.
that reballing was cool... at least you have a replacement drive to fix the one with a laser issue now, so nothing lost
This was the console of my childhood still got a working one I was an 80s child so I played this a lot what memories.
I love your videos so much .... please take the ultimate challenge and fix a bricked WII U console not the game pad ...... please
That's why soldering without bottom heather and thermal profile is a bad taste.
But I fully hoped that you would fix it.
Never seen a PS2 apart. Interesting and great video Vince.
with the reflow on the balls. You could try putting a thin coat of flux over where the balls will go. When adding the balls they will only stick to the correct pattern and when heating they will melt and stick quicker. The chip will be less likely to warp with less heat. I think you need to apply a little pressure on the chip when flowing onto the board (if someone can confirm or tell us the correct way).
Did you check all the fuses on the board. They have 10,15,20, 50 on top of them. also labeled ps15 ps10 etc.
I think this had a GPU issue
Very weak to show display and as after 1/50 goes, gpu must have at least some power to show something on the TV but like Ash said, it goes blank after a game which games uses more graphics which is more power
Must be a fault on the GPU
No cracked solder
I think the GPU didn’t become recognised at the end because of ball bridges
Not your fault Vince, reballing is a pain and hard job and I salute the people who take their time out to do a tedious task just for a 15% success rate
Nice video Vince
Tough luck Vince, I am sure this will be a revisit video, but this was still interesting and I love the way you go about fault finding, it gives me food for thought, plus like you say if every video was a success, then where is the tension of waiting to see if we get a Vince "YEEEESSSSS" at the end?! Thanks for keeping us entertained mate, take care.
Mine went temperamental like that just before it died. It died when the modchip failed. It was semi repairable when that happened though and would actually start up when the modchip was bypassed but not every time. It only lasted for a short period before dying completely. I don't think this applies here though because there is no modchip on your board.
I watch for 1 hr and I find it entertaining.
its easy mate . the light turn green and then red because there is short under or inside the graphic synthiser chip . wich led to a fuse bloun up . the fuse can be located under the board . but with that reballing job . there is no point for looking after the fuse .
This is way different than any video I have seen! You should do more PS2 videos!!
i don't care about that ps2 machine.yours attempt to fix and attitude that make me subscribed,keep the good work👍
Pitty you couldn't get it to work but at least you tried your best and well done on your first attempt at the re-balling of the gpu. Practice makes perfect and great video as usual mate 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Vince; we need a re-visit! :)
You can also use the optical audio out to see if there's any sound
Vince is well on his way to becoming a real baller.
Although I share your disappointment when you are unsuccessful, I love those videos just as much as when you are. No need to apologize and please don't feel bad on your viewers' behalf.
Interesting video as usual. I didn't know anything about doing solder "balling". As always, thanks for sharing the adventures.
It definitely wasn't video output related. If you watch closely when it finally does fire up the analog LED on the DS2 turns on, but when it's stuck on the black screen it doesn't. This tells me A/V output is working fine, it's just that the PS2 is failing to boot for some reason. That also means that using RGB / Component wouldn't have worked either.
My guess is that it was a power delivery issue that was preventing the CPU from starting up, but when it did start up it didn't get in the way of continued operation until another CPU reset occurred (for example when starting a game).
It might be a CPU or even BIOS issue, it can mess up with the boot and also the peripherals.
My 5 year old so. Love your pull string toy video. He would like to see more and we have questions as he attempts his own fixing.
Thanks for the video man . Would it be possible to make a video showing your electronic repair equipment, solder station etc. I am trying to start getting some stuff together to help me repair some stuff around the house and would love if you did a video on the stuff you use and recommend .Might be a good add on to the channel, to test some different equipment and tools in the future and give the viewers your thoughts on them ,it would be very helpful and interesting.Thanks Vince
Nice little surprise! Hope you adn your family are safe mate
Those 3 via's that don't seem to go anywhere might go to a internal layer of the board as it's a multi layer board.
You should really grab a cheap analog 20Mhz Hameg 'scope off of ebay. All these things like "does this signal pass trough this capacitor or is the capacitor broken" and "are these bypass capacitors OK" can all be measured with a 'scope rather then haphazardly replacing parts and risking unnecessary board damage.
I'm not gonna lie, I like the classical music better or no music at all when you do the fixing bits of the video, but do what makes you happy
Great video. And to be real I'm not a savvy of what to do when I can't use my PS2...
If you ever get another PS2 with display problems try changing the component video settings blindly, just google search how to do it.
1:18:48 You always get a thumbs up, bud. Always a valiant effort, and a great watch. Well done, even in failure to fix it.
"Let's take it off and have a look at the balls underneath", Really speaking to my heart mate
Before you reball gpu, you should check resistor as a filter,there around on the gpu chip and cpu chip..
Hope next day you got lucky
Something about u saying "Bingo" after lifting the balls cracked me
1:11:11