Thank you so much for this amazing video!!! It's already two months old, but no one told me about it, so I had to get it recommended to me by RUclips, haha. But I absolutely love the way you explain steno in such a clear and enthusiastic way. My heart is absolutely glowing right now. I'm gonna post about this video on the Plover Blog tomorrow!! Thank you again!
Really cool to see this video made! I'm the daughter of a judge and I used to be obsessed with the steno machines at my dad's workplace. I'd seen a bit of info on steno and plover before but this has finally inspired me to go out and buy my own and start learning!
Honestly, you have no idea how much "quality of life" producing sentences efficiently on a computer is. I don't do steno, but I'm a professional Dvorak layout typist and the times before I got into typing are still fresh in my memory. I am much happier being able to type at 140wpm+ whenever I want/need, than back when i could only type at 60wpm. Using the computer is now so satisfying, and even a little relaxing. And of course, trash talking kids on FPS games lets me just absolutely fucking UNLOAD A STREAM OF INSULTS while the kid is still trying to find the letter "u". So yeah, even if you ever give up on steno for any reason, I recommend trying regular typing - it is much easier, pretty much 100% intuitive of course, and yeah, there are just as many, if not more, resources for learning professional typing. Join a server that corresponds to the layout of your choosing (even if you never intend to try proper typing, what tokaku said is actually really important - join the steno server! Even if you don't have any questions now, there is a lot of info and tips you'll be able to obtain from the server!) I'm really happy that people are getting into steno, because as we progressively use computers more, it becomes more and more important that we are able to "fluently use" the machines. It's just a super practical skill, even if technically past a certain wpm it holds no real "practical advantage". But, in my opinion being able to type at 150wpm+ is still practically beneficial. Why? Because if you're studying at university, or undertaking any sort of intense academic course, typing fast will allow you to easily "transcript" the lectures/lessons, allowing you to take accurate notes which you will be able to shorten later. Too many times did I have the teacher talk too fast for my wpm.
@@TechSupportDave Yeah, being able to type at a decent speed is definitely helpful. Maybe it is much better on dvorak, but I wouldn't want to do 150wpm for a big stretch of time, though. Seems like it'd be hard on the hands after a while. That's one advantage of steno is it uses much less hand movements to get to the same speed.
Good video. You're one of the few people who actually provide accurate information regarding stenography. I am a stenographer and learned using the StenEd Realtime theory. Learning steno can be extremely overwhelming, but like you mentioned, you are basically learning a whole new language. Also, going from a QWERTY keyboard to a steno keyboard and vice versa is a weird feeling LOL.
like, i want to be able to learn steno, however i don't want to lose my ability with normal keyboards (due to fear of it decreasing my ability in computer multiplayer games)
@@99temporal Most people get a new keyboard for steno (professionals like OP especially; the keys on their "keyboard"s are more like a piano's and are better for chording), so you use one keyboard for steno and one for QWERTY/Dvorak/etc. If you're using an NKRO keyboard, it's one click to disable Plover temporarily. Steno is different enough from regular typing that one doesn't override the other in your brain. I can't attest about slower touch-typing due to lack of practice though.
Yeah, I agree that steno is different enough from regular typing that it shouldn't mess you up when you use a normal keyboard. It isn't just that keys are in different spots, you actually write in a totally different way by doing a syllable or word at a time.
Paul, one nice thing if you want to explore Plover is that its default dictionary is mostly based on StenEd (though I think you could import your own dictionary form work). It can do arbitrary shortcuts based on briefs, so you can have briefs to do copy, paste, launch programs, etc.
@@mugumugi911 I still haven’t attempted it as I was focusing on on qwerty so I could learn how to do my assignments on a school laptop quickly, your comment reminded me I should really get to attempting steno lol
lmao i just thought about that. i'm a typist and i belong to many typing servers. they're all pretty fast at times, but i think the steno server would be on another level.
Thanks a lot for linking my video in the description and showing one of my videos! It put a nice blip in my analytics and added some life into my channel!
This is probably one of the most comprehensive intro videos to steno I've seen, and really well produced. I really need to get back to learning it, but I keep hitting a wall.
I'm someone who spends a lot of their life typing when it comes to socializing. So naturally, I am extremely interested in anything that increases my typing speed. Just literally learned about the existence of a stenographer keyboard today, and just the idea of "a keyboard meant for faster wpm" had me. This video is the perfect way to introduce it all to me, including the explanation of what it is how it works, and even "home-ified" casual situations that I can see myself using it in, considering I don't have an interest in using it in a professional setting.
i randomly got recommended some steno videos a while back, but it really confused me cause nobody in those videos ACTUALLY explained how steno works. this is the first video where i feel like it's actually starting to make sense. also funny cause i know of you from osu vids so really random to see a video about stenography here lol
@@Punched0 they work horrible on my casual videos where I don't read a script into a mic slowly and carefully. Especially my rhythm games tierlist video, 'osu' became 'also' and a ton of other garbled text
That's a pretty good overview of steno (and specifically Plover) :) As for arpeggiating, I personally think that going that route to find out if Plover/stenography is something for you first is a good call, because then it costs literally nothing. Also, I might or might not be stealing the "direction" steno typos, they're hilarious
Thanks for the excellent intro to steno. I was hoping to find more info on diy steno keyboards, but it seems pretty rare! Thanks to the link about your V2, I just backed the Kickstarter, though I would have preferred a DIY version!
I just bought the EcoSteno and really like it. I think it is supposed to re-stock next month some time. Can always sign up for their newsletter. The layout is very similar to regular steno machines, the switches are super light actuation (which you want for chording), keys very close together to make hitting multiple keys with one finger, easy, etc. Even has a tripod thread on the bottom. I had an old camera tripod I wasn't using, so I can be all official with the positioning of it lol
I wanted to come back to this video, and I happened to catch your statement about google speech to text so thought I'd turn on automatic captions, and the next two minutes were spot on, minus punctuation. Pretty cool.
Is stenography is for english only? Considering english is not my main language and in Indonesia we basically blend multiple languages in a single sentence and the fact that Indonesian (and it's local languages) have a different phonology it might be hard to use here.
Ironically, I turned on the auto generated subtitles and it was pretty accurate to be honest. Occasionally it gets long words wrong or confuses “their”, “there” and “the” but that’s about it.
Yeah people act like the automatic translations are NEVER going to be replacing humans, but honestly it is probably going to be capable enough within the next 5-10 years. After recording a court hearing there are still plenty of errors in a stenographer's work and they have to go back and clean it up. At some point there is going to be a cost analysis that shows it is much cheaper to just record the hearing with Speech to Text and pay someone to clean that up, instead of paying someone to take the notes AND THEN pay them to do the same clean up work. The question is what % accuracy do we need for that to be the case?
@@TheOldSchoolCrisis Stenographers are 15% more accurate. And you are 40% more efficient if you take notes in the room instead of taking them from audio later. There are many reasons why trusting the computer won't replace a human. At the end of the day, the court reporter's job would still be to watch the voice recognition and yell at you if you aren't speaking clear enough.
This is so interesting - thank you for a really clear introduction to steno! It's so cool to watch you typing, too. Your comment about accent reminded me of this- I teach ESOL to adult immigrants in the US, and in 2020 when classes moved to zoom, my students often wanted to turn on Zoom's live captions. The technology just isnt there yet. Everyone has an accent - the captions messed up my Boston accent just as much as the accents of non-native English speakers!
Steno is something I think many people have heard about but never really known how it works or what the magic behind it is, thanks for making this video! I'll be sure to subscribe and check out future updates on your steno progress if you feel like keeping us updated :D (also discord in white mode what the hell I've never seen that hahaha)
my mom is a stenographer and i'm her scopist. had no idea there were hobbyists when it came to steno and now im tempted to buy a hobby steno keyboard. my mom will probably be even more confused than i am when i show her this video lmfao
10:00 if that keyboard is programmable you can use the function and number rows instead for a proper layout. I have a split version of this layout but unfortunately mine only has 6KRO
@@parnikkapore Oh, 100%, a bunch of monkeytype’s top registered typists (200-240 over 60 seconds) run QWERTY. At 160-210, myself, I’m not all too uncomfortable even with suboptimal technique considering I only use three fingers on one hand
Just keep in mind that steno is going to be a lot easier on your hands at the same speeds. If you ever end up in a situation where you need to type fast for longer stretches of time, steno really shines in that case.
Lol, your steno speed is already faster then my regular typing speed! Seems like this would have been better to learn than traditional typing/ keyboarding. Thanks!
Question: how is it switching between a regular keyboard and a steno one? Do you get mixed up all the time when you jump between the two or are you still earlier in the learning phase to really know for certain?
Seems unlikely since you are pressing multiple buttons and regular keyboards being staggered. Probably different enough to not mix it up in your brain.
yeah, this. Though on a normal keyboard right now, I'm starting to get frustrated that 'remember' isn't just pressing down 'RER' at once pffff steno really makes things easier when you're used to it
I may have had an influence on this project's development over 4 years ago in college. Cool! Shoutout to Dr. Durant! I'm toying with a multiplexer-based N-key-rollover split keyboard solution currently. ;)
Chinese typing layouts have been using similar systems for years. Quite interesting that steno is hidden like that in the western world. But maybe that's exactly because Chinese isn't really meant to be typed that people came up with very efficient ways to type it
it will increase way more than that. well, the note-taking part at least. being able to transcript lessons is like a GODLY skill to have. I wish i knew steno 3 years ago because I had some really big 20-hr exams that were nothing but typing on a computer so i could have absolutely shredded the exam with it. Well, a bit too late now but I think steno is still worth learning. And if you don't like it, professional typing is still an option.
@@IcyTorment true, but either way typing fast is going to be of at least some "quality of life" benefit, not exclusively relating to taking notes. for instance, texting friends while playing a competitive video game. well, there are many random uses like this which one only uncovers as they keep using their computer.
Kind of... though I'd say it is more like text expansion macros that you type with one press. It is deterministic vs autocorrect that usually isn't 100% sure and needs intervention to pick the right thing.
I laughed out loud until I started coughing at “dacryocystis”. Thanks for the awesome video! I’m just getting interested in steno and your video was a great motivator to keep going
At the core, it is like a text expansion macro thing on steroids. I think they mean it isn't like morse code where you are just expressing letters in a different form. Here, you're encoding full syllables and words. It also doesn't have to be any one thing, since what is in the dictionary is up to you. There's set keys and the way they are laid out in a certain order is also set. But how that translates to words or computer commands is more variable. Just to give an example in "real world" steno, there are different steno "theories". Phoenix theory tries to be very strictly phonetic. A certain sound is always stroked the same way, and so words with more syllables take more strokes to write out. Magnum theory is the opposite end of the spectrum, where they have a lot of shortcut strokes ("briefs") for common words and phrases. Phoenix requires less memorizing but takes more finger movements to be at a certain speed while Magnum needs less finger movements but more memorizing. StenEd theory (which Plover theory is mostly based on) is more in the middle. Mostly phonetic but with a bunch of shortcuts you can optionally use too.
Even in the case of commercial theories like Phoenix and Magnum, they have a philosophy and a default dictionary, but you can still add or change anything you want in your own dictionary once you're out of school.
@@ShawnFumo That still sounds like it's a code. You can call it whatever you want if that makes you feel better, but that doesn't change the fact that you're encoding something into something else. Just because the start and the end both are strings of characters that doesn't somehow make it not a code. Having to apply a dictionary to translate from/to means it's a code. I don't know/use Steno, but I am a programmer and I know a code when I see one. :)
I'm glad you mentioned it at the end, all I could think watching this is "Man, I could see this being awesome for coding.." Lol, I could see someone spitting out some code crazy fast with one of these once they got good at it and had their dictionary set up.
Yeah there are definitely people using it for coding. It won't be quite as overt an advantage since people don't usually program very fast anyway. But especially stuff around it like comments, discord discussions, etc it will help. Plus you can assign special briefs to arbitrary key shortcuts. I was thinking steno could be useful for having briefs for various refactoring commands, find usages, running tests, etc. After a while, it gets annoying to memorize lots of arbitrary shortcuts like ctrl+shift+t or whatever. But this can be variations on real words and can use multiple strokes for it.
Lol that typo at the end is amazing, using swipe on mobile can conjure up some pretty funny typos too (especially with long words it can take a few tries to make it find the right one) but nothing even close to that level Seems like it'd be a useful typing form though, as somebody who doesn't exactly talk out loud much it'd be useful to spend less typing interrupted to type out a message in chat while doing something else, but it'd be impractical to learn for me (you say 6 key roll over is bad and i raise you 3 key roll over, usually i get more than 3 but 3 is the highest gaurenteed number of keys i can push, after 3 some combinations will just miss)
Kinda off topic but kinda on. I used a reverse polish notation calculator for 5+ years as a surveyor in the army and the reserves. I got really good at it. It took me a long time to relearn how to use a regular calculator after I got out. You know, like the calculator you use in grade school, I just couldn't remember how they worked. Or after years and years of using a cell phone I still can't use a cordless corded phone. And I'm old enough that I used a rotary phone growing up. Funny how muscle memory and such works.
I'm a bit late to the party here but, you commented on your accent. I am listening to you at 1.75 speed without reading captions. You articulate quite well, which makes a big difference, and that makes your accent more of a spice than an impediment to the listener. =D
8:06 thats actually exactly how ill do it on discord, like if i want to send the cry/laugh emoji i ususally just have to type ':joy' and then hit enter and itll get it
Thank you so much for this amazing video!!! It's already two months old, but no one told me about it, so I had to get it recommended to me by RUclips, haha. But I absolutely love the way you explain steno in such a clear and enthusiastic way. My heart is absolutely glowing right now. I'm gonna post about this video on the Plover Blog tomorrow!! Thank you again!
You're an absolute goddess for starting off plover. Thank you for all of your work!
@@tokaku kaku
@@funni9346 kaku
bundala mi caca
You post a comment and Instantly a giant paragraph apears
imagine just arguing with a professional stenographer and they start roasting you at 180+ wpm
Just imagine they typed a 50+ words sentence then you're about to reply, then they send another 50+ words sentence shortly
@@auatom- You won the game but lost the trash talk...
Unacceptable
Must learn steno
@@flordelphinta gotta get 2 table to quickly switch keyboard, rap battle in game
Their typing normally, then you get them angry and suddenly you have 6 paragraphs about why you're wrong
i usually hit 300+ wpm in court! ;)
an osu! community and steno community crossover is something I never thought would happen, love to see it
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Love ur vids graf!
what are you doing here lol
lol pierwszy raz cię widzę u tokaku XDD
Przepraszam, że to pisze ale..... Kiedy UHC?
@@upadygold5113 nigdy graf nie gra w mc juz
I'm so happy you are promoting steno and plover. More people getting into hobbyist stenography is a good thing
sakamoto!
ryujin!
@@themelancholyofgay3543 YES SOMEONE WHO WATCHED OR READ NICHIJOU 😸😸😸
hi koneko
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Really good vid tbh. Will probably never try steno, but I definitely know a lot more about it now!
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so is no one going to talk about her steno dictoonary
"cum"
@@xavierjarvis588 wot?
@@4thDT 8:00 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
also there's daddy
Hey man, if she wants to ERP with steno thats her business
🤣🤣🤣 man that scares, someone coming across my steno dictionary
i like how you go from "ok, i need to edit my video faster, how?" to "yes, stenography"
Really cool to see this video made! I'm the daughter of a judge and I used to be obsessed with the steno machines at my dad's workplace. I'd seen a bit of info on steno and plover before but this has finally inspired me to go out and buy my own and start learning!
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Honestly, you have no idea how much "quality of life" producing sentences efficiently on a computer is. I don't do steno, but I'm a professional Dvorak layout typist and the times before I got into typing are still fresh in my memory.
I am much happier being able to type at 140wpm+ whenever I want/need, than back when i could only type at 60wpm. Using the computer is now so satisfying, and even a little relaxing. And of course, trash talking kids on FPS games lets me just absolutely fucking UNLOAD A STREAM OF INSULTS while the kid is still trying to find the letter "u".
So yeah, even if you ever give up on steno for any reason, I recommend trying regular typing - it is much easier, pretty much 100% intuitive of course, and yeah, there are just as many, if not more, resources for learning professional typing. Join a server that corresponds to the layout of your choosing (even if you never intend to try proper typing, what tokaku said is actually really important - join the steno server! Even if you don't have any questions now, there is a lot of info and tips you'll be able to obtain from the server!)
I'm really happy that people are getting into steno, because as we progressively use computers more, it becomes more and more important that we are able to "fluently use" the machines. It's just a super practical skill, even if technically past a certain wpm it holds no real "practical advantage".
But, in my opinion being able to type at 150wpm+ is still practically beneficial. Why? Because if you're studying at university, or undertaking any sort of intense academic course, typing fast will allow you to easily "transcript" the lectures/lessons, allowing you to take accurate notes which you will be able to shorten later. Too many times did I have the teacher talk too fast for my wpm.
@@TechSupportDave that wall of text really proves your point lol
@@stymlice2332 POV: he typed it in 30 seconds
@@TechSupportDave Yeah, being able to type at a decent speed is definitely helpful. Maybe it is much better on dvorak, but I wouldn't want to do 150wpm for a big stretch of time, though. Seems like it'd be hard on the hands after a while. That's one advantage of steno is it uses much less hand movements to get to the same speed.
Good video. You're one of the few people who actually provide accurate information regarding stenography. I am a stenographer and learned using the StenEd Realtime theory. Learning steno can be extremely overwhelming, but like you mentioned, you are basically learning a whole new language. Also, going from a QWERTY keyboard to a steno keyboard and vice versa is a weird feeling LOL.
how do you change between the two?
And, is your qwerty speed lower than normal?
like, i want to be able to learn steno, however i don't want to lose my ability with normal keyboards (due to fear of it decreasing my ability in computer multiplayer games)
@@99temporal Most people get a new keyboard for steno (professionals like OP especially; the keys on their "keyboard"s are more like a piano's and are better for chording), so you use one keyboard for steno and one for QWERTY/Dvorak/etc.
If you're using an NKRO keyboard, it's one click to disable Plover temporarily.
Steno is different enough from regular typing that one doesn't override the other in your brain. I can't attest about slower touch-typing due to lack of practice though.
Yeah, I agree that steno is different enough from regular typing that it shouldn't mess you up when you use a normal keyboard. It isn't just that keys are in different spots, you actually write in a totally different way by doing a syllable or word at a time.
Paul, one nice thing if you want to explore Plover is that its default dictionary is mostly based on StenEd (though I think you could import your own dictionary form work). It can do arbitrary shortcuts based on briefs, so you can have briefs to do copy, paste, launch programs, etc.
i type like 100+ wpm and my highest ever is like 150 wpm. this steno thing looks really fucking cool and i struggle to see how it's done
I mean consider if every other word you wrote was shortened to an abbreviation? You could probably reach much higher speeds too.
95wpm here :D
100 - 120 wpm person here :D
**cries in 55wpm on both real keyboard AND iPad**
since when did this get 160 likes tf??
As someone who is a poor typer but a fast learner, I think this would be pretty cool to try and learn
Go for it! I never learned to type properly on qwerty, so I didn’t have to unlearn anything
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer Thanks for your encouragement, I’ll definitely give it a go and I wish myself the best!
good luck! this video has me excited to learn steno even as a relatively fast qwerty typer
@@you_key how is your progress?
@@mugumugi911 I still haven’t attempted it as I was focusing on on qwerty so I could learn how to do my assignments on a school laptop quickly, your comment reminded me I should really get to attempting steno lol
I'm crying over the conversation with those typos
Can we talk about how a rhythm game RUclipsr made the best video explaining how steno works. None other explain it well
I can only imagine how quick the discord general chat is on that discord server 😳
lmao i just thought about that. i'm a typist and i belong to many typing servers. they're all pretty fast at times, but i think the steno server would be on another level.
I’m in the discord server and they are mostly on mobile while using discord.
oh hey it's the destiny 1 glitching guy, o/
she has discord on light mode xD
@@eyan2628 :>
Thanks a lot for linking my video in the description and showing one of my videos! It put a nice blip in my analytics and added some life into my channel!
Imagine someone sweating and raging over steno 😂
everyone gangsta till they start typing your location in steno
@@whatisthis2809 i don't think they're serious
@@AJTheInvisibleGirl i couldn't tell, idk why i just sometimes have a hard time telling if a reply if being serious or not
@@whatisthis2809 New to the internet?
@@mist3325 "what is this
joined 7 years ago"
Yes i am new
This is probably one of the most comprehensive intro videos to steno I've seen, and really well produced.
I really need to get back to learning it, but I keep hitting a wall.
i’ve always had an interest in stenography! thank you for bringing attention to it and showing how broke pleps like me can learn! :,)
I'm someone who spends a lot of their life typing when it comes to socializing. So naturally, I am extremely interested in anything that increases my typing speed. Just literally learned about the existence of a stenographer keyboard today, and just the idea of "a keyboard meant for faster wpm" had me. This video is the perfect way to introduce it all to me, including the explanation of what it is how it works, and even "home-ified" casual situations that I can see myself using it in, considering I don't have an interest in using it in a professional setting.
Stenographers are not actually typing on a keyboard. The are playing sad piano music for the accused.
I prefer the 88 keys on an actual piano.
convinced me to start learning steno within 10 min. Great video and thank you for exposing me to an amazing hobby!
i randomly got recommended some steno videos a while back, but it really confused me cause nobody in those videos ACTUALLY explained how steno works. this is the first video where i feel like it's actually starting to make sense. also funny cause i know of you from osu vids so really random to see a video about stenography here lol
i love how you said “google captions are terrible” and captions are turned off
it's not off on mobile tho
it’s not off on mobile and the google’s speech to text was accurate despite her accent
@@marblesoda._. yeah, they were literally flawless except for missing punctuation marks
i turn captions on as soon as she said that and essentially for the rest of the video they were completely accurate lol
@@Punched0 they work horrible on my casual videos where I don't read a script into a mic slowly and carefully. Especially my rhythm games tierlist video, 'osu' became 'also' and a ton of other garbled text
I’ve always wanted to learn this, thank you for promoting Plover! :D
Ayyyyy! As a current steno student this was super exciting to see
can we all appreciate her custom words at 8:00?
dadddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
K*UPL
That's a pretty good overview of steno (and specifically Plover) :)
As for arpeggiating, I personally think that going that route to find out if Plover/stenography is something for you first is a good call, because then it costs literally nothing.
Also, I might or might not be stealing the "direction" steno typos, they're hilarious
Thanks for the excellent intro to steno. I was hoping to find more info on diy steno keyboards, but it seems pretty rare! Thanks to the link about your V2, I just backed the Kickstarter, though I would have preferred a DIY version!
I just bought the EcoSteno and really like it. I think it is supposed to re-stock next month some time. Can always sign up for their newsletter. The layout is very similar to regular steno machines, the switches are super light actuation (which you want for chording), keys very close together to make hitting multiple keys with one finger, easy, etc. Even has a tripod thread on the bottom. I had an old camera tripod I wasn't using, so I can be all official with the positioning of it lol
I've seen a lot of Steno lately and then your video come out, thanks for the knowledges
OMG FINALLY STENOGRAPHY IN THE MAIN CHANNEL
I wanted to come back to this video, and I happened to catch your statement about google speech to text so thought I'd turn on automatic captions, and the next two minutes were spot on, minus punctuation. Pretty cool.
Next video: I played osu with a steno keyboard lmaoo
Had trouble finding a video that really detailed how this works and showed examples. Thanks for a great and informative video :)
Is stenography is for english only?
Considering english is not my main language and in Indonesia we basically blend multiple languages in a single sentence and the fact that Indonesian (and it's local languages) have a different phonology it might be hard to use here.
I was supposed to get into stenography and plover a while ago with a friend but life got in the way... Thank you for reminding me about it!
Great Plover & steno overview!
I've been thinking about learning steno for a while now. It's nice to see a video promoting it and how to get into it. Thank you!
Ironically, I turned on the auto generated subtitles and it was pretty accurate to be honest. Occasionally it gets long words wrong or confuses “their”, “there” and “the” but that’s about it.
Yeah people act like the automatic translations are NEVER going to be replacing humans, but honestly it is probably going to be capable enough within the next 5-10 years. After recording a court hearing there are still plenty of errors in a stenographer's work and they have to go back and clean it up. At some point there is going to be a cost analysis that shows it is much cheaper to just record the hearing with Speech to Text and pay someone to clean that up, instead of paying someone to take the notes AND THEN pay them to do the same clean up work. The question is what % accuracy do we need for that to be the case?
@@TheOldSchoolCrisis Stenographers are 15% more accurate. And you are 40% more efficient if you take notes in the room instead of taking them from audio later. There are many reasons why trusting the computer won't replace a human. At the end of the day, the court reporter's job would still be to watch the voice recognition and yell at you if you aren't speaking clear enough.
I have been lurking on plover for years now. Glad to see this.
Though I learned Stenography during my high school days, my fastest was around 70 wpm. That was handwritten shorthand. No typing.
This is so interesting - thank you for a really clear introduction to steno! It's so cool to watch you typing, too.
Your comment about accent reminded me of this- I teach ESOL to adult immigrants in the US, and in 2020 when classes moved to zoom, my students often wanted to turn on Zoom's live captions. The technology just isnt there yet. Everyone has an accent - the captions messed up my Boston accent just as much as the accents of non-native English speakers!
Find me a way to get this working with Typing of the Dead and I'll learn it in a weekend.
Plover can be used with any program, games like Typing of the Dead included 😉
Nice video. I've been thinking about getting into steno for a while and this has pushed me over the edge :D
They need to make something like this for programmers.
underrated comment, this would be really useful
Thanks for answering why some news stations have glitchy subtitles.
This could be really good for other applications like programming where there are much smaller dictionaries to be used. Super cool!
Steno is something I think many people have heard about but never really known how it works or what the magic behind it is, thanks for making this video! I'll be sure to subscribe and check out future updates on your steno progress if you feel like keeping us updated :D (also discord in white mode what the hell I've never seen that hahaha)
Imagine Eminem in court rapping while a stenographer tries to keep up
my mom is a stenographer and i'm her scopist. had no idea there were hobbyists when it came to steno and now im tempted to buy a hobby steno keyboard. my mom will probably be even more confused than i am when i show her this video lmfao
She should play parappa the rapper or samba de amigo
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10:00 if that keyboard is programmable you can use the function and number rows instead for a proper layout. I have a split version of this layout but unfortunately mine only has 6KRO
don't be shy about your accent, your English sounds very clear and in general it sounds super cute
i didn't know steno was training traction in hobbyist communities, this makes me really happy! it's so cool!!!!!
“Dvorak, Coleman, Workman... even if you were fast on them”
*Sweats in qwerty 180-220*
I think QWERTY can be considerably fast if you use techniques to reduce SFU and don't care about comfort.
@@parnikkapore Oh, 100%, a bunch of monkeytype’s top registered typists (200-240 over 60 seconds) run QWERTY. At 160-210, myself, I’m not all too uncomfortable even with suboptimal technique considering I only use three fingers on one hand
Just keep in mind that steno is going to be a lot easier on your hands at the same speeds. If you ever end up in a situation where you need to type fast for longer stretches of time, steno really shines in that case.
It’s crazy that the speech to text captions on this video is actually really accurate lmao
wait... is that an OMORI PROFILE PICTURE??
*my opinion of you has risen exponentially*
the omori fans risen even more
TIL about steno, extremely well-done explanation! WHAOEUT
Oh yes, finally a keyboard to flex my Osu Mania skills in chat
Lol, your steno speed is already faster then my regular typing speed! Seems like this would have been better to learn than traditional typing/ keyboarding. Thanks!
Let's talk about K*UPL TKAED 8:00 :^)
i was just about to say smthn about that lmao
didnt think anyone else noticed that besides me, lmao
I've always wondered how you play a game like "Steno Arcade" on steam. This makes so much more sense!
Question: how is it switching between a regular keyboard and a steno one? Do you get mixed up all the time when you jump between the two or are you still earlier in the learning phase to really know for certain?
Seems unlikely since you are pressing multiple buttons and regular keyboards being staggered. Probably different enough to not mix it up in your brain.
yeah, this. Though on a normal keyboard right now, I'm starting to get frustrated that 'remember' isn't just pressing down 'RER' at once pffff
steno really makes things easier when you're used to it
I may have had an influence on this project's development over 4 years ago in college. Cool! Shoutout to Dr. Durant!
I'm toying with a multiplexer-based N-key-rollover split keyboard solution currently. ;)
Chinese typing layouts have been using similar systems for years. Quite interesting that steno is hidden like that in the western world. But maybe that's exactly because Chinese isn't really meant to be typed that people came up with very efficient ways to type it
Yea. Some use a pronunciation of the character, but some use the components that make up the character, like this:
Full word;
媽
女；
馬；
Watching this with auto-captions turned on and they are 100% accurate
So if I use this, my academic performance will increase by 40%
it will increase way more than that. well, the note-taking part at least. being able to transcript lessons is like a GODLY skill to have. I wish i knew steno 3 years ago because I had some really big 20-hr exams that were nothing but typing on a computer so i could have absolutely shredded the exam with it. Well, a bit too late now but I think steno is still worth learning. And if you don't like it, professional typing is still an option.
@@TechSupportDave yeah
@@TechSupportDave Actually, I said 40% as a Death Note reference 😅
@@IcyTorment true, but either way typing fast is going to be of at least some "quality of life" benefit, not exclusively relating to taking notes.
for instance, texting friends while playing a competitive video game. well, there are many random uses like this which one only uncovers as they keep using their computer.
That's awesome. Hype and looking forward for you to get faster on the stenography machine.
Light discord, I was rolling on the floor with a buzzing sound in my ears for at least a couple of minutes
Outstanding video. Really really well made. Thanks for taking the time to do this so nicely
>light mode discord
my eyes are literally bleeding Q_Q
Overused joke but okay haha
@@unknownuser1013 that's not a joke at all
@@amirnuriev9092 EXACTLY, it's a serious crime 😐
This is so cool! I didn’t know more people were getting into this! Thanks for this video ☺️
I though you were using a typewriter when I saw the thumbnail
I activated the autogenerated subtitle when you say speech to text is bad, but it's funnily spot on lol
So its basically a keyboard with the best autocorrect
Kind of... though I'd say it is more like text expansion macros that you type with one press. It is deterministic vs autocorrect that usually isn't 100% sure and needs intervention to pick the right thing.
Even though I will never in my life use one of these keyboards they are still pretty cool to see in action
that custom dictionary is quite sus
cum
@@starletscarlet daddy
Already owning an ortholinear keyboard is making this really tempting
just try!
7:20 haha p0rn
I laughed out loud until I started coughing at “dacryocystis”. Thanks for the awesome video! I’m just getting interested in steno and your video was a great motivator to keep going
"Steno isn't a code"
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"Steno is basically a way to code language phonetically"
Alrighty then.
At the core, it is like a text expansion macro thing on steroids. I think they mean it isn't like morse code where you are just expressing letters in a different form. Here, you're encoding full syllables and words. It also doesn't have to be any one thing, since what is in the dictionary is up to you. There's set keys and the way they are laid out in a certain order is also set. But how that translates to words or computer commands is more variable.
Just to give an example in "real world" steno, there are different steno "theories". Phoenix theory tries to be very strictly phonetic. A certain sound is always stroked the same way, and so words with more syllables take more strokes to write out. Magnum theory is the opposite end of the spectrum, where they have a lot of shortcut strokes ("briefs") for common words and phrases. Phoenix requires less memorizing but takes more finger movements to be at a certain speed while Magnum needs less finger movements but more memorizing. StenEd theory (which Plover theory is mostly based on) is more in the middle. Mostly phonetic but with a bunch of shortcuts you can optionally use too.
Even in the case of commercial theories like Phoenix and Magnum, they have a philosophy and a default dictionary, but you can still add or change anything you want in your own dictionary once you're out of school.
@@ShawnFumo That still sounds like it's a code.
You can call it whatever you want if that makes you feel better, but that doesn't change the fact that you're encoding something into something else. Just because the start and the end both are strings of characters that doesn't somehow make it not a code. Having to apply a dictionary to translate from/to means it's a code.
I don't know/use Steno, but I am a programmer and I know a code when I see one. :)
@@ayporos I mean sure, it is definitely an encoding of a sort. I was just saying why I think she said what she did.
I'm glad you mentioned it at the end, all I could think watching this is "Man, I could see this being awesome for coding.." Lol, I could see someone spitting out some code crazy fast with one of these once they got good at it and had their dictionary set up.
Yeah there are definitely people using it for coding. It won't be quite as overt an advantage since people don't usually program very fast anyway. But especially stuff around it like comments, discord discussions, etc it will help. Plus you can assign special briefs to arbitrary key shortcuts. I was thinking steno could be useful for having briefs for various refactoring commands, find usages, running tests, etc. After a while, it gets annoying to memorize lots of arbitrary shortcuts like ctrl+shift+t or whatever. But this can be variations on real words and can use multiple strokes for it.
I was blinded by this video.. di- dis - discord light mode
Thank you for actually explaining steno and even how to get into steno, every other YT video does not explain steno well at all
nobody is talking about the cursed discord light mode
As a Sonographer. I loved finding out about stenography!
Nobody's gonna talk about the light theme discord
We've already gone though this 😔
i was in the editing stream and i like this video thanks tokaku 👍👍👍👍👍
I couldn’t even recognize she was on discord because of light mode
I turned on automatic captions on this video and the captions were perfect!
8:00 0_0
K*UPL TKAED!
@@DriftJunkie TKAEPL...
this is genuinely really cool, the speed is insane if you get good at it which is crazy to me
K*UPL
Lol that typo at the end is amazing, using swipe on mobile can conjure up some pretty funny typos too (especially with long words it can take a few tries to make it find the right one) but nothing even close to that level
Seems like it'd be a useful typing form though, as somebody who doesn't exactly talk out loud much it'd be useful to spend less typing interrupted to type out a message in chat while doing something else, but it'd be impractical to learn for me (you say 6 key roll over is bad and i raise you 3 key roll over, usually i get more than 3 but 3 is the highest gaurenteed number of keys i can push, after 3 some combinations will just miss)
Day 478 of being disgusted by light mode
All jokes here, love the vid
Kinda off topic but kinda on. I used a reverse polish notation calculator for 5+ years as a surveyor in the army and the reserves. I got really good at it. It took me a long time to relearn how to use a regular calculator after I got out. You know, like the calculator you use in grade school, I just couldn't remember how they worked. Or after years and years of using a cell phone I still can't use a cordless corded phone. And I'm old enough that I used a rotary phone growing up. Funny how muscle memory and such works.
Oh no.. I’m going blind.. Discord light theme..
I'm a bit late to the party here but, you commented on your accent. I am listening to you at 1.75 speed without reading captions. You articulate quite well, which makes a big difference, and that makes your accent more of a spice than an impediment to the listener. =D
imagine using steno when you can just use a normal keyboard at 2x speed
speeeeeeeed
8:06 thats actually exactly how ill do it on discord, like if i want to send the cry/laugh emoji i ususally just have to type ':joy' and then hit enter and itll get it
This is awesome. I kept getting distracted from the Bistrover video feed behind you haha