*I'm thinking about picking up Workman, should I?* - If you are interested in picking up Workman, I'd recommend you go for Colemak Mod DH instead: it accomplishes the same thing with fewer drawbacks. *Is there anything else I can do to get faster at typing?* - The typist in the video, Jashe, has an incredibly detailed writeup on improving typing speed: docs.google.com/document/d/1h-46EqD6_llPoQjv_vmtp_UKypBi4ZIV7S4sM7vWnV4/edit *How do I get/change to new layouts?* - Windows has built in support for alternate layouts. Once they are installed, you can cycle between your installed layouts using the hotkey: WinKey + Spacebar. Dvorak simply needs to be enabled in the Language and Input menu. Workman and Colemak have a download that can be installed, and more obscure layouts like Colemak mod DH require the use of a program called the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator. If it says it's been successfully installed but you still cannot switch to it, try restarting your PC. *Which keyboards did you use in the video?* - At the start of the video: HHKB Tofu with SA Ice Cap and Turquoise Tealios - The rest of the video: HHKB Pro 2 with 3 pink keycaps from KBDFans *What typing sites did you use in this video?* - I played almost exclusively play.typeracer.com/ to improve. - www.keybr.com/ - 10fastfingers.com/ - monkey-type.com/ *Do you use Workman on your phone?* - No, I guess the muscle memory is separate because I never had any issues typing with QWERTY on my phone. I can even type with Swipe typing without looking at the keyboard despite my inability to use it on a normal keyboard. I'll update this with any FAQs people have, but for now, thanks for the support
@@DwayneWillDo tbh I do regret picking workman, but it's never too late to learn another layout. I found myself slowing down a lot in QWERTY when I had to stretch for the center rows, so I thought it would be a lot more comfortable if most of the movement I had to do was vertical. Workman has great stats on paper, but its biggest downfall is that it has a lot of common key combos that use the same finger twice in a row, which is horrid for speed. OP/PO is the main one, which makes typing words like "people" very difficult.
Obama bin Laden Rival: “You can’t beat me! I have a higher word per minute rating!” Protagonist: “I’ve changed since we first met, my WPM is over two hundred!”
Step 1: Click a button to randomize your layout. Step 2: Learn your new layout until you get +100 WPM Step 3: Do Step 1 and Step 2 until you learned every layout possible. Step 4: You can now call yourself the god of keyboards.
I just realized that since I never learned the “right” way of typing, I could easily get the same wpm I usually get on any other format, as I am still in the stage where I need to look at the keyboard to see where the letters were. I’m too powerful.
I got 70-90wpm depending on text from 2 fingers min and 4 max. I started learning touch typing it was difficult at start since I wasn't used to using fingers I never used before. But after a week I started reaching 50-60 wpm easily. I'm planning on practicing till I can easily hit 100+ wpm
Me who has 8 words a minute with qwerty and 50% accuracy: Hmm interesting Update over 1 year later : this was when I got my first phone and wasn't familiar with the layout or letters, my family doesn't allow phones till 15 and I have used a computer before this but it was in a different language and different layout, I have gotten much better at typing since then.
Learn muscle memory by typing stuff without looking at your keyboard. Once you get that down, start playing nitrotype. It's a web game, and I got way better at typing when I started.
@@misusaki8980 You might want to switch, but life outside of your own home (typing at libraries, schools, ect.) would be a lot harder. I'd say learn both decently well or stick with Querty.
I started learning Dvorak at a time when I couldn't even touch type qwerty. Now I daily drive dvorak and it is awesome! I felt that the biggest advantage to those "better" keyboard layouts are not that they enable me to type faster, but it actually relieves a lot of stress on your wrist. When typing in qwerty, our hands often do not rest in the natural position, but tilted one way, which is really not comfortable over a long time.
Wow! I also learned Dvorak when I couldn't touch type on qwerty. I was always bad at typing so I wanted to do an experiment: if I manage to touch type for the first time with a totally different layout. I'm no programmer, I'm just passionate of different ways to write. I'm not fast but Dvorak is the first and only layout I can do touch typing.
@@ItsSchwifty Same. qwerty is much better if you like "rolling" your fingers since dvorak makes you alternate hands on alot of words. Just not as satisfying imo.
It's all jingle bells until you have to type on a different keyboard I use qwerty at around a hundred wpm and colemak at around 60 but it's a pain in the ass when you wanna use colemak and have to search for a stupid setup just to use it At lease dvorak is in windows but even that needs me to go into settings lmao
I can touch type colemak, and I do a variation of 6 finger hunt and peck on qwerty. I can easily use both although colemak is 80-90 wpmish and qwerty at 45 wpm
It would be an interesting project to see large classes of people be taught (perhaps from an early age) an alternate layout like workman and have the process analysed. Perhaps we can move QWERTY to the alternative layout list?
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 keyboard layouts once, but i fear the man who has practiced one keyboard layout 10000 times" -Bruce Lee (paraphrased)
BRYAN HAO RAN NG How does photographic memory play any part in this? Sure you can remember where the keys are as a picture in your head, but that doesn’t translate to you being able to execute a combination of keys precisely and accurately.
Well I have done over 15 million keystrokes and as a fourth grader I can type up to 110 wpm and average 90 lol so does tha5 mean I’ve practiced it 10000 times
this is my 2nd time watching the video and this time I'm realizing how something so mechanical as learning a new keyboard layout can turn out to be a emotional and motivational video to me. I hope you read this Pingu.
Y'know... I kinda like how inefficient QWERTY is. It's really satisfying to just let my hands fly all over the keyboard and not miss a single letter. When I'm having long conversations over the internet it's not uncommon for me to completely forget that I'm typing at all. My wpm isn't super high or anything but I just enjoy the controlled chaos of typing in QWERTY.
This might be the reason behind QWERTY - since typewriter keys are much harder to please in order to register keystroke, layout was randomized as much as possible to let every finger roughly equal workload to avoid injuries as much as possible.
This video is very inspirational, it got me into trying colemak and I can't stop practicing, I am still learning it but this video helped keep me motivated to know that the hard work will be worth it in the end.
@@DIFY Got to about 120wpm on Colemak, and had to switch back to qwerty due to school reasons, because I can't get Colemak on the school computers for 2 reasons. 1. it won't let you download anything 2. because it's not a default layout on windows. I wish I could continue but I really need to be able to type fast for essays and such. I can still briefly remember how to type on Colemak with a second or two of thought.
Been using workman for a couple years. Probably not the fastest layout, but it's very ergonomic and useful for typing in other languages that use the Roman Alphabet if it is modified with layers. I recommend, though some might prefer Colemak, Halmak, or the like.
If you are having trouble with QWERTY then I especially recommend alternate layouts. That's what I did, it was much easier to learn, because alternate layouts are easier to learn and also because there was no reference, and I now have no risk of looking at the keys ever again.
ah, I found the video again that inspired me to switch off qwerty, I soon switched cold to using colemak during my first watch and haven't looked back, I love it 😊
This was the weirdest video to appear in my recommended at 4 am. It was cool. I think the most admirable thing about this is the fact that you took the time to learn something knew, which seems like a lot of people don't like to do these days. I think I'll stick with QWERTY myself since I can't see myself ever switching, but I'd be interested to apply your enthusiasm into other areas of my life. Cool video, good luck with streaming and Patreon and RUclips itself.
Russian keyboard layout is designed by most frequent chars at center and least frequent further away, layed out in spiral (type with one finger this: ghytfvbnjurdc...). The analysis of what is most frequently used chars are was done on basis of literature popular back then and statistics of used characters. Whatever soviets were, they were very focused on their engineers
And weirldy enough, if you are typing in two languages (which I am as russian) you are practically using two layouts - you can bee quite fast at both. So, maybe it is possible to train your brain to think about another layot as typing in another language?
By the way Russian needs to know 2 keyboard layouts. In OUR language and in English. And this my friend we learn from the beginning because layouts with only Russian language doesn't even exist. (I think. Didn't Google it. At least only Russian layout would be useless on computer.)
people with multiple consoles with different controller layouts notice that after a while its less difficult to adjust and that after even longer you can notice that you don't even have any turnaround times when picking up different controllers. This should also be able to be replicated onto keyboards so if you switch enough between them after a period of time you may notice that you adapt to the layouts (you already know, switching from another layout) really fast
The redemption part felt like a anime fight where the main character came back to take his revenge on the bad guy after hours of training and clapped him lmao
When he was struggling to get the 120 WPM average and was so excited when he got it, and then got it everytime with no effort in the 1v1s, it was basically like getting Super Saiyan in Dragon Ball
Thank you for making this video. Very interesting to follow the learning curve. One really has to commit and realize it takes many hours of practice. This is true for many new things. I have recently realized that I have enough interests and won't get into another, because it will take time away from things I already love.
Literally have no interest in typing, discord, or anything in this video. Nor do I know this guy. I still watched this whole video like a little kid watching their first cartoon it was so captivating xdd It really doesn't matter what the topic is as long as the "presenter" is doing a good job...this makes me think I might have liked history if it was taught better...
I used to think history was so boring but I have found good people like oversimplified who can make things actually interesting while getting the point across, I get that most his videos are about war but for example his Hitler videos aren't about war and are pretty detailed, I bet you that he could make the enlightenment era interesting even though the whole thing is basically nothing
My History teacher before quitting was the best teacher I have ever met, she didn’t just repeat history stories, she relate them to captivating life experiences she had, she also cared deeply about her students. One time, she saw I was falling asleep, so she made me pass around candy she brought to everyone, making me move around helped me become more awake, and it was a subtle way to help me, instead of calling me out in class, alerting everyone I wasn’t paying attention.
This is kind of like an experience that i’ve had. Since I was nine I have done figure skating. I’m currently in high school and I still do it competitively. Last year I decided to try out hockey, I thought it would be fun since i’m short it would work because i can’t really play games like basketball. I also had just started playing field hockey too which isn’t quite the same but has some shared skills. I figured my skating ability would translate on hockey skates. I was wrong. In case you didn’t know, figure skates and hockey skates have different blades. Figure skates are longer and have toe picks, while hockey skates are shorter, have more curvy edges, and are rounded on the back side. I ended up falling backwards a lot because i wasn’t used to the back side being rounded. Also, the edges are different which is basically the sensitivity of when you lean the boot, how curved you skate. It was hard. I was trying to learn a new sport while also relearning to skate. I felt that I was handicapped because I continued to go back to a figure skating style. Over the course of the season I got better. I was better able to switch between going to figure skating practice and hockey practice. I would stumble the first few seconds but then something in my brain would click and i would be able to skate on either one. I had a tournament at the end of the season. It took place over multiple days and many games. It was basically like immersion rather than switching between styles multiple times a week. During that tournament I got a lot more confident and better with hockey skates. I think my progress was a lot slower because I continued to figure skate but I was able to develop the ability to switch between them. Now, I’m definitely way better at figure skating than hockey. Hockey is a really hard sport that takes years to master and Ive only played it over the course of around 6 months. I haven’t worn hockey skates since march due to corona but I’ve continued to figure skate so I wonder if i can still retain my ability to switch between skates since i’ve been back to my default for so long.
Hey, I'm coming back to this video to thank you, for introducing me to a whole community based on typing. I am not talking about custom keyboard building and I am using a membrane keyboard that I have for like 2-4 years now. when I first discovered this video, I was amazed, I loved the video itself, the editing the overall vibe of the video was amazing. anyways, it made me want to try and learn how to type fast, my original goal for this project was to get to 100 wpm, but after getting to it I realized one score of 100 wpm is not going to cut it. I brought a friend to try this new experience out with me and we both reached an average of about 80 words per minute before slowing down with practice a bit, getting a little bit burnt out, and obviously the excitement was also kind of slowing down as times went on, I kept on practicing every once in a while, you know, for fun, I enjoyed showing people my "incredible" typing speed and I loved their reaction, all though it didn't mean much to them I'm sure, I was just some nerdy kid who types on a keyboard fast, but it really boosted my motivation to keep on practicing typing. anyways, I came here to tell you that I am currently standing at about an average of 140 words per minute and still enjoy typing a lot, I just realized I wrote a whole paragraph without thinking too much of it. anyways, thank you. sincerely yours, some random kid on the internet.
While I'm still much slower on dvorak than qwerty, since I frequently switched back and forth I find now that I can switch nearly instantly. When I was first learning I wouldn't be able to type qwerty later in a day if I had practiced dvorak earlier, but I got much faster at switching over time. If worry over not being able to type qwerty anymore is holding you back, make sure you still type qwerty at least a couple of times a week and you'll be fine.
Interestingly, I had no issue learning to type in a different layout that was in a different alphabet (Cyrillic) for another language (Russian). Knowing how to touch type made the transition very fast (just a couple of days). So apparently, the ability to touch type in general and the respective layout are stored in different parts of the brain. I sometimes do get some logjams, however, when I switch between writing in Russian (Cyrillic) and Polish (Latin-QWERTY) as the languages are very close and often have the same words just written in the respective alphabet. I don't have a problem switching between Polish QWERTY and German QWERTZ (where the letters except for Y/Z are the same, but the extra keys differ). So, I assume, the keyboard layout is mainly connected to the brain area which stores individual language characteristics.
Your real keyboard keyboard and that displayed on the screen both are different layout, they both differs. You can observe it at the place where backspace is located. I'm amazed of what a hardworking person you are and how self-motivated you are. This is something I am really lacking, but I try everyday. Cheers.
After watching this, I'm starting to see these layouts as slightly simpler languages. English is not my first language, yet I am more proficient in it than my first one. Same has happened to you. You learned the workman layout so well, you're more proficient in it that you are with QWERTY, which you partially forgot, because it wasn't needed anymore. Why would you learn both languages, if either one is good enough to communicate with just about everyone?
Committing is definitely the most important part. When I decided to learn dvorak I thought I could still maintain qwerty, but it ruined me. I decided to commit and change all my keyboards to dvorak, even on my phone. I also rearranged the physical keys on my desktop keyboard. I found the phone keyboard actually made the biggest difference at first because it actually allowed me to see the locations of the keys, which helped me to commit it to memory. The fact that I didn't have a qwerty keyboard to fall back on was what got me through the initial grind. It was horrible at first, especially when I had to take notes during a class, but I learned to use shorter sentences and point form until my typing speed improved. I persisted because I had no choice and it was an amazing feeling when after a year I finally surpassed my old qwerty typing speed. Now it's been over four years since i've even touched a qwerty keyboard and I don't know if I could switch back even if I wanted to. I can't even remember where most of the keys are.
I switched to Dvorak on my main keyboard years ago, and haven't looked back. I also experienced having a lot of difficulty switching back to Qwerty at first, but after a while, using both layouts on different systems, it came back and I can type both layouts effectively. I do have faster typing speed on Dvorak than I've ever approached on Qwerty.
You should try learning to write your non-dominant hand! I've committed to it for a month and a bit now, and the learning curve seems as steep as this one; But I know you could do it! : ) Also, your content is amazing, and super motivating! It's because of you that I learned to use mouse acceleration, which is now my main setup! I'm also learning ambidexterity and you keep me motivated to learn piano, violin, and music production! Your content helps motivate me to try my best. Thank you, and keep it up!
I have the opposite problem, i write really well with my left, non dominant hand, and really poorly with the right hand. I blame it on the years of avid pc gaming
@@ArtyTheta I don't think that's a problem, it seems to me that you are just more experienced writing with your left so it ended up with those writing muscle memories that your right doesn't have.
About a year and a half ago, this video inspired me to learn workman. I've been typing in it since then and I stopped practicing after getting to about 130 wpm. It took me a bit longer than in this video but I also don't think I practiced as much. The main issue I've had with it is compatibility across various platforms and at other people's computers. Every time I start a new game I have to rebind everything before even playing the tutorial, or sometimes if the game doesn't allow it I have to play the tutorial without changing my keybinds. Chromebooks do natively support workman so I can use it on those pretty easily, and it's not hard to setup if I have to use someone else's pc for an extended period of time. I would say it's been worth it for me and I have a lot of fun with it. If you're considering switching, I would suggest trying it for a week and seeing if you enjoy the challenge of it, as the practicality isn't really there.
Here are some ideas i think you might like: 1. How much can a widescreen monitor help you out? 2. How much improvement do you get from a certain Hertz to a certain Hertz - maybe a chart? 3. Does the gaming strat where you replace WASD with IJKL (with Qwerty) and use the four keys to the right of the spacebar actually help? Thanks for your videos, they are amazing :)
At first I was like "How could you forget how to type in qwerty???" But then I think about every time I try an unfamiliar game and get used to it, then I press seemingly random buttons when I go back to my regulars. When you do something for so long, it's second nature. When you learn something new, you have to constantly think about what you're doing until you're used to it. That constant mind-on-keyboard/controller thought process messes with you when you go back to something familiar. You've been so focused on the new controls that it's the first time in a while your brain has had to FIGURE OUT how to do something, and it won't let go. "Grappling hook! Wait there's no grappling hook in this game. Wait why is there a grenade ricocheting back to me?"
I learned Dvorak last year, and I had a situation no one seems to talk about but which I'm sure isn't uncommon: I could never type well on qwerty in the first place, and I had reached about 20- 30 wpm looking at the keys. Now with Dvorak, after 2-3 months of pain (no practice sessions, just real life), I can reach 30-40 wpm, but more importantly the layout is much more comfortable and I have zero risk of reference reliability. If you don't touch type well right now, I 100% recommend you find the time and make the sacrifice. TL;DR: I always found learning Qwerty hard but committing to Dvorak worked out.
Thanks for the fantastic video. I just switched from QWERTY average ~135wpm to Colemak, and 3 days later am at 25 wpm. Feeling very demoviated but this video helped out:)
Biggest problem with learning a new layout is anywhere you go you're gonna be stuck with a qwerty layout. So unless you have full control, qwerty will always have a hold on you.
it's because it's inconsiderate for those who work hard and memorize the qwerty format. i have a bad memory and i dont remember things easily. i have to memorize the qeety format in months. there are others who are still trying to memorize and may not able to adopt if things change. let's just understand each other's struggle
@@verosestudio it's not like a government is going to institute a forced changed to a new layout, so you will never be forced to learn one. The people saying this are dismissing the validity of new layouts with the argument "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," which would leave us in the stone age.
@@pinguefy oh i get it. i also don't understand why others are denying new layouts but i do hope that qwerty layout wont be gone. thanks for letting me understand
I ended up learning Dvorak over midterms in High School in 2014 or so. It wasn't smart at the time, but I got so much practice I ended up touch typing within two weeks (with tons of errors of course). I peaked about 8 months later, hitting around 70 wpm with minimal errors. Now I do 80 wpm steady, jumping up to 90 when copying text. To put it in perspective, I went from 30 wpm with QWERTY to 80-90 wpm with Dvorak, without really trying too much. The speed came with the efficiency of the layout. I'm glad more attention is being brought to alternative keyboard layouts. I would note that Dvorak isn't as difficult as it looks. Sure, it looks foreign compared to QWERTY, but it's a very logical layout and will come naturally to you once you get a handle on where everything is. I'd recommend folks give it a shot before settling with another alternative.
Thank you for bringing up the counter-argument to switching layouts, it's definitely important to keep that in mind when thinking about switching. I was thinking about switching to dvorak and even tried it and using all my fingers but then realized there are people who hunt and peck qwerty and still hit 140wpm lol. So me using six fingers with qwerty isn't really all that bad since I can already type faster than I really need to for just normal usage, and I can always improve my speed later if I want to really work on it.
Just randomly got this in my recommended about a year after first watching it and this inspired me to learn workman. Just want to thank you for making this video and introducing me to the world of alternate keyboard layouts
This video convinced me to start taking typing seriously. My whole life i’ve done the two finger method, typing who knows how few words per second, but I should really start getting more confident with my typing before college essays bite me in the ass, Thanks for the motivation man
I literally watched the whole thing, usually I’m a person with a short attention span and can’t watch any video for more than 5 minutes without switching. But this was so interesting to watch and well made.
Found this on my reccomended randomly and enjoyed tf put of it, everytime this happens to me the person im watching they blow up and get a couple million subs or so im not even kidding. T H I S I S A S I G N
Some PC games don't let you redefine keys either. 8 and 16 bit computers allowed this more often, if you didn't like the arrow keys or 'QAOP and SPACE'
For the record I love channels like yours with infrequent high quality content. Not that I would mind more content, but the skill learning videos are amazing and obviously take time to create since it takes time to learn the skill. Since you're already a musician, I think it would be very interesting to see you learn to sing if you can't already.
yeah i personally love this type of uploading. im not on youtube all that much anymore so instead of getting overwhelmed by an immense amount of vids i now have to limit and chose from
0:57 The origins are actually somewhat clear-ish. The QWERTY keyboard was developed because people found it to be easier than the alphabetical layout so it was created because it was found to be more efficient than that keyboard there. The most uncommon keys were thrown into corners while the home row, besides for "S", is completely alphabetical. It developed overtime with revisions made to increase its efficiency. That does not mean it's "the best" keyboard, but the QWERTY keyboard was not created over some archaic problem like people like to believe.
The qwerty layout was also designed in such a way, that you can type "typewriter" only using the top row of keys in the keyboard, so people who have that job can flex on others
Very inspired. I also am a very fast typist (130 wpm) and I also decided to switch layouts. Currently 2 months into colemak around 80wpm average and improving pretty fast maybe 5 wpm a week. 15k races on nitro type and 123 hrs on monkeytype
A popular theory is that Qwerty was designed to slow down left handed typists, but QI confirmed that it's just to reduce the frequency of typewriter jams. It's a disappointing truth
@@pinguefy Ah, just looked up the QI clip. I had no idea that we had another one, though it's pretty forgivable given that it orbits us once every 770 years
And here I was, as a foreigner living in Germany, annoyed as hell because they switched the place of the letters “y” and “z” (vide qwertz keyboard). Little did I know...
It's thanks to this video that I got super into speed typing The first time I watched this my speed was around 80WPM, and now I can get around 110-115 Thanks for making this and getting me into this great hobby
I love these videos and it is about time you made a video on keyboard layouts! I personally tried to learn dvorack a long time ago and I actually learned it fast enough to match my qwerty speed (30 wpm at the time lol). I dropped dvorak because, well, i was after speed too. but i found that i was going about it the wrong way. If i wanted speed, practice is what i needed, not a supposedly more "efficient" layout. I started to relearn better typing techniques in qwerty and WPM is now around 90! The main reason i stuck with qwerty is that it is the default layout in all tech these days and i really didn't want to shoot myself in the foot. Thing is, when you get used to a layout very well, its pretty difficult to flip that switch and return to qwerty. It makes more sense for me to learn the dominant layout well instead of learning a niche layout and setting it up on every device i get in the future. the speed difference is negligible in the long run imo. Also, some keyboard shortcuts i depend on just break with alternate layouts. For anyone wanting to learn a new layout, the main advantage of layouts that use less movement is that they strain your hands less (you would get less pain and carpal tunnel and stuff). I highly recommend that you learn a new layout like dvorak if you type a lot and your hands feel cramped. As for the speed typists out there, really any layout works well as long as you practice!
Just gotta say, this man is one of the most inspirational people ever, I look up to this guys dedication to learn new things, he may not master many of them but to be able to start something and carry on with it until you are almost exceptional at it is what I think makes him one of the best people I have seen
Really appreciate the detail and effort you put into your videos. This one was entertaining, well made, and super informative as well. I've done research on different layouts in the past but at the time the investment to relearn didn't quite seem worth it. I even went quite far into the rabbit hole of typing efficiency but never went for it. I did switch my phone and iPad keyboards to Colemak and after getting used to it found myself enjoying the flow it made. I rarely find myself genuinely worrying about speed on phones and tablets but just that aspect of fluidity was fun to see. I think I'm gonna have to make the switch after watching this video. Probably just to Colemak since I'm not as ambitious as you were here.
I switched to Colemak because of this video just for fun to see what it's like, and man, I am in love. Typing is so fun now, I almost rather type than play a game or something.
When I've been typing for about 2 months i was typing as fast as i could i only typing 60 average but after one week of more practicing i am averaging about 70 now it may look not good but for me it's a huge achievement
I practiced with qwerty for years and topped out at 70-90 wpm (touch typing). I immersed myself in Dvorak and caught up in 2 weeks. Within a month, I had topped 100 wpm. I've stopped practicing for typing speed, and my average speed has settled back to 90-100 wpm. I can still type with qwerty. Probably around 40 wpm. But remember I practiced it like crazy for many years.
you need to use the ASDF method and adjust it according to difficult words to type fast with QWERTY. I’ve reached 130 - 140 wpm in about 2 months with it, starting from 50 wpm. without ASDF my max was 100wpm
@@malcolmdoss9748 by "ASDF" method I assume you mean home row and touch typing? I do that with both layouts. Honestly I haven't been very interested or engaged in improving my QWERTY typing speed for many years. I don't care that I'm slow on QWERTY.
@@_ericelliott np, let’s be real. it’s just typing. but you claimed to practice QWERTY for many years and hit a peak at 40 wpm after practicing “like crazy.” don’t be offended dude but I don’t believe this. Most kids get to 60 wpm to 80 wpm just from daily use as they grow up playing games or writing essays for school, without using home row and/or deliberately trying to become fast typists. this includes me, and I hardly even played computer games.
The impression that I got from reading your comment and that most people would get is that you need to learn a different keyboard layout to type faster which is completely false. Anyone can learn to type fast with QWERTY (150 wpm? 180wpm? sure), and if you can use it to reach your typing speed goals, learning alternative layouts is quite a waste of time given that QWERTY is universal and in fact useful to know for the practical purpose of using someone else's machine. If you want to learn a different layout just to challenge yourself or for the fun of it, go ahead. But if you just want to type fast, learning a different layout is frankly a waste of time and a huge blunder if you're going to forget how to type with QWERTY
@@malcolmdoss9748 I peaked 70-90 wpm. I only fell back to ~40wpm because I rarely use QWERTY since I learned Dvorak. I was into software development and chatting online so I used my touch typing skills on QWERTY several hours per day every day for many years before switching to Dvorak. After switching, I very quickly met and exceeded my typing skills with QWERTY after far less practice and daily use. So yeah. I took to Dvorak MUCH better than I ever took to QWERTY, and touch typing/home-row was not the difference. I used the same techniques and the same kinds of typing exercises to learn both. In my opinion, Dvorak is a far superior layout. Maybe you just have a natural talent for QWERTY that I didn't have. That's cool.
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*I'm thinking about picking up Workman, should I?*
- If you are interested in picking up Workman, I'd recommend you go for Colemak Mod DH instead: it accomplishes the same thing with fewer drawbacks.
*Is there anything else I can do to get faster at typing?*
- The typist in the video, Jashe, has an incredibly detailed writeup on improving typing speed: docs.google.com/document/d/1h-46EqD6_llPoQjv_vmtp_UKypBi4ZIV7S4sM7vWnV4/edit
*How do I get/change to new layouts?*
- Windows has built in support for alternate layouts. Once they are installed, you can cycle between your installed layouts using the hotkey: WinKey + Spacebar. Dvorak simply needs to be enabled in the Language and Input menu. Workman and Colemak have a download that can be installed, and more obscure layouts like Colemak mod DH require the use of a program called the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator. If it says it's been successfully installed but you still cannot switch to it, try restarting your PC.
*Which keyboards did you use in the video?*
- At the start of the video: HHKB Tofu with SA Ice Cap and Turquoise Tealios
- The rest of the video: HHKB Pro 2 with 3 pink keycaps from KBDFans
*What typing sites did you use in this video?*
- I played almost exclusively play.typeracer.com/ to improve.
- www.keybr.com/
- 10fastfingers.com/
- monkey-type.com/
*Do you use Workman on your phone?*
- No, I guess the muscle memory is separate because I never had any issues typing with QWERTY on my phone. I can even type with Swipe typing without looking at the keyboard despite my inability to use it on a normal keyboard.
I'll update this with any FAQs people have, but for now, thanks for the support
Hey @pinguefy (completely unrelated topic) can we expect to see a hyperscape video or stream
@@not.for_her3226 probably not video, but stream eventually
Pinguefy ok good to know
What was ur philosophy and thought process when looking for the layout for u
@@DwayneWillDo tbh I do regret picking workman, but it's never too late to learn another layout. I found myself slowing down a lot in QWERTY when I had to stretch for the center rows, so I thought it would be a lot more comfortable if most of the movement I had to do was vertical.
Workman has great stats on paper, but its biggest downfall is that it has a lot of common key combos that use the same finger twice in a row, which is horrid for speed. OP/PO is the main one, which makes typing words like "people" very difficult.
"do you use WASD?"
"Nah I just DASH"
I use VUIA
@@mr_magictwofive what layout do you use?
five year old me: I uSe ArrOWs keyx
Since I have big hands I use ZRFE
@@ShmeekyDeeky_ i expect people with big hands would be more into EADG
I can’t stop thinking about this guy as a shounen anime protagonist.
Now I really need a really intense Typing anime. There is already a Ping Pong anime so why not typing?
Obama bin Laden
Rival: “You can’t beat me! I have a higher word per minute rating!”
Protagonist: “I’ve changed since we first met, my WPM is over two hundred!”
lol
Ok but wtf is the diference between shonen and shounen ?
@@obamabinladen9193 I mean there isn't one that I know but I know one where they frequently mention APM
Did you win the race?
Ping: Yes
What did it cost?
Ping: Qwerty
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Step 1: Click a button to randomize your layout.
Step 2: Learn your new layout until you get +100 WPM
Step 3: Do Step 1 and Step 2 until you learned every layout possible.
Step 4: You can now call yourself the god of keyboards.
Step 5: Ascend beyond keyboards and learn Steno
Step 6: „Alexa, please take a note…“
Step 7: „Hey google, read my brain“
Sooo true.
Step 8: realize theres more keys than in just the english keyboard
I just realized that since I never learned the “right” way of typing, I could easily get the same wpm I usually get on any other format, as I am still in the stage where I need to look at the keyboard to see where the letters were. I’m too powerful.
How sway do u have da answers
I got 70-90wpm depending on text from 2 fingers min and 4 max. I started learning touch typing it was difficult at start since I wasn't used to using fingers I never used before. But after a week I started reaching 50-60 wpm easily.
I'm planning on practicing till I can easily hit 100+ wpm
I can do 70-85wpm with 2 fingers and pinky for shift
lol ik exactly where all the keys are yet i still look a the keyboard-
I use 8-10 fingers i dont even know but i get around 95 wpm
Me who has 8 words a minute with qwerty and 50% accuracy: Hmm interesting
Update over 1 year later : this was when I got my first phone and wasn't familiar with the layout or letters, my family doesn't allow phones till 15 and I have used a computer before this but it was in a different language and different layout, I have gotten much better at typing since then.
Learn muscle memory by typing stuff without looking at your keyboard. Once you get that down, start playing nitrotype. It's a web game, and I got way better at typing when I started.
@@thedemotivationalspeaker3090 well am deciding if I want to switch or not
@@misusaki8980 You might want to switch, but life outside of your own home (typing at libraries, schools, ect.) would be a lot harder. I'd say learn both decently well or stick with Querty.
@@thedemotivationalspeaker3090 then I would just have to memorize the keyboard layout
I have 25 wpm and 92% accuracy on qwerty
Qwerty: Use W A S D to move.
Colemak: WARS
Workman: DASH
Me: haha lol
marek eben that actually makes sense maybe games were made for this one
French be like
Uhhh, i'm gonna fail the exam
Their exam :
ZQSD
Hotel: Trivago
I started learning Dvorak at a time when I couldn't even touch type qwerty. Now I daily drive dvorak and it is awesome! I felt that the biggest advantage to those "better" keyboard layouts are not that they enable me to type faster, but it actually relieves a lot of stress on your wrist. When typing in qwerty, our hands often do not rest in the natural position, but tilted one way, which is really not comfortable over a long time.
Depends on you but I find the QWERTY layout more comfortable, I like moving my fingers more.
Wow! I also learned Dvorak when I couldn't touch type on qwerty. I was always bad at typing so I wanted to do an experiment: if I manage to touch type for the first time with a totally different layout. I'm no programmer, I'm just passionate of different ways to write. I'm not fast but Dvorak is the first and only layout I can do touch typing.
@@ItsSchwifty Same. qwerty is much better if you like "rolling" your fingers since dvorak makes you alternate hands on alot of words. Just not as satisfying imo.
It's all jingle bells until you have to type on a different keyboard
I use qwerty at around a hundred wpm and colemak at around 60 but it's a pain in the ass when you wanna use colemak and have to search for a stupid setup just to use it
At lease dvorak is in windows but even that needs me to go into settings lmao
Also typing club supremacy
His voice is weirdly relaxing.
tbh it just makes me really sleepy and i dont like that because his content is really hard to come by.
Hell yeah
Yea
And the jazz in the background enhances it
The jazz music really adds on to the relaxation, if it was heavy metal with his voice you wouldn’t really get a relaxed feeling.
It’s all fun and games until you have to type on someone else’s keyboard.
I can touch type colemak, and I do a variation of 6 finger hunt and peck on qwerty. I can easily use both although colemak is 80-90 wpmish and qwerty at 45 wpm
@Thomas Leroux-Lévis is what really important
7 days in, I can now have speeds of 50wpm in colemak and was able to maintain my 110 wpm in qwerty. You just have to practice doing both everyday :)
Poltergeist muscle memory might be a little disturbed at times.
@@Anon.G Hunt and peck at 45wpn is still awesome.
Today I learned that there's a whole community about typing
Yeah there's also a sneaker/shoe community. Humans are strangr
@@tyhma1563 shoes are actually normal, you are strange
@@Ghosty716 yeah i know shoes are normal, i use shoes everyday, but a SHOE COMMUNITY like a community of shoe enthusiasts
retu cause shoes look nice. These alternate keyboards are weird
@@tyhma1563 there is also a community for armpit, im glad im not there
It would be an interesting project to see large classes of people be taught (perhaps from an early age) an alternate layout like workman and have the process analysed. Perhaps we can move QWERTY to the alternative layout list?
If only I can positionally map the shortcut keys back to where they were. I am willing to give Dvorak a try if I can use it in vim only in insert mode
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 keyboard layouts once, but i fear the man who has practiced one keyboard layout 10000 times"
-Bruce Lee (paraphrased)
Hahaha nice one
BRYAN HAO RAN NG How does photographic memory play any part in this? Sure you can remember where the keys are as a picture in your head, but that doesn’t translate to you being able to execute a combination of keys precisely and accurately.
Well I have done over 15 million keystrokes and as a fourth grader I can type up to 110 wpm and average 90 lol so does tha5 mean I’ve practiced it 10000 times
@@subscheme nobody cares :/
@@subscheme and you've typed "over 15 million keystrokes" and you can't type words properly? oof that's rough man
Next video: how I went from homeless to obama in 4 days.
@@TheThreatenedSwan nah trump is miles worse
That’s nice, no Trump lol
Who is Obama lol
Alex F. Not sure, probably an anime character
Ok
“20 minutes of focus practice is so much more productive than an hour of aimless practice” awesome quote
Wow... I saw this comment at the same time he's saying this quote 😃
I feel attacked but it’s facts
Active versus passive learning
It's the same with other fields. Focus workout versus an hour of lazy workout. It applies to so much
So accuracy over speed?
this is my 2nd time watching the video and this time I'm realizing how something so mechanical as learning a new keyboard layout can turn out to be a emotional and motivational video to me. I hope you read this Pingu.
Y'know... I kinda like how inefficient QWERTY is. It's really satisfying to just let my hands fly all over the keyboard and not miss a single letter. When I'm having long conversations over the internet it's not uncommon for me to completely forget that I'm typing at all. My wpm isn't super high or anything but I just enjoy the controlled chaos of typing in QWERTY.
You said inefficient but you talked about how efficient is QWERTY
@@Namerco Everything can be "efficient" for you if you learn it. Time efficiency is a different story.
@@itsnetts ohhhhhhh
@@itsnetts this comment now makes sense
This might be the reason behind QWERTY - since typewriter keys are much harder to please in order to register keystroke, layout was randomized as much as possible to let every finger roughly equal workload to avoid injuries as much as possible.
"I had to slow down to go faster"
That's honestly the greatest advice I've heard.
This.
This is easily applied everywhere.
That doesn't make any sense tho.
You should read the Bible. Full of vague quotes you can interpret anyway you like.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Start cubing, you'll see it there too.
Long story short, he became a Discord moderator.
He hasn’t practiced meme banning in general
kitten banging
@@balloon3503 the fk is kitten banging, sounds like 20 years in prison.
@@Wtfinc You're technically not wrong
@@Wtfinc not wrong at all!!!!!!!
This video is very inspirational, it got me into trying colemak and I can't stop practicing, I am still learning it but this video helped keep me motivated to know that the hard work will be worth it in the end.
How did it go?
@@DIFY Got to about 120wpm on Colemak, and had to switch back to qwerty due to school reasons, because I can't get Colemak on the school computers for 2 reasons.
1. it won't let you download anything
2. because it's not a default layout on windows.
I wish I could continue but I really need to be able to type fast for essays and such. I can still briefly remember how to type on Colemak with a second or two of thought.
Alternatively: How I went from 140 WPM to 1.2 WPM in 7 seconds
I love everything about this comment, the profile picture and the simple but great joke.
F
‘I had to slow down to go faster’
This feels inspirational.
Is it?
What part in the video was that?
It is
@@mikafizz1022 the chapter about breaking through plateau. The line is around 9:55
This is common knowledge for musicians.
Came for the typing
Stayed for the character development and life lessons
Been using workman for a couple years. Probably not the fastest layout, but it's very ergonomic and useful for typing in other languages that use the Roman Alphabet if it is modified with layers. I recommend, though some might prefer Colemak, Halmak, or the like.
i can’t imagine switching to another keyboard. i have a hard enough time with QWERTY as it is.
If you are having trouble with QWERTY then I especially recommend alternate layouts. That's what I did, it was much easier to learn, because alternate layouts are easier to learn and also because there was no reference, and I now have no risk of looking at the keys ever again.
You have trouble with QWERTY? Then your should be perfectly able to switch to an alternate layout.
@@nilstrieb how do u switch the layouts on win 10? cuz if u have to type o and p with my pinky one more time ..
@@sadisticgirl_ o with your pinky? I don't know how to do it, just google it
my friend made his own layout and i thought it was really impressive. that was until i found out
he’s been using it for 6 months and gets 20 WPM.
"Why do we use QWERTY keyboard?"
Me: KEYBOARD IS KEYBOARD
ah, I found the video again that inspired me to switch off qwerty, I soon switched cold to using colemak during my first watch and haven't looked back, I love it 😊
This was the weirdest video to appear in my recommended at 4 am. It was cool. I think the most admirable thing about this is the fact that you took the time to learn something knew, which seems like a lot of people don't like to do these days. I think I'll stick with QWERTY myself since I can't see myself ever switching, but I'd be interested to apply your enthusiasm into other areas of my life. Cool video, good luck with streaming and Patreon and RUclips itself.
new*
Me : laying in bed watching this.
Also me : gets up at 4am to start practicing typing
when this video was released it was 5am in the Summer. So I watched it, and actually started to fricking type in 5am, so, same!
Same
literally same, the time was impecable
what are the odds?
Me
Russian keyboard layout is designed by most frequent chars at center and least frequent further away, layed out in spiral (type with one finger this: ghytfvbnjurdc...).
The analysis of what is most frequently used chars are was done on basis of literature popular back then and statistics of used characters.
Whatever soviets were, they were very focused on their engineers
very cool, the more you know.
But made dot key press normal, and comma key - with shift.
And weirldy enough, if you are typing in two languages (which I am as russian) you are practically using two layouts - you can bee quite fast at both. So, maybe it is possible to train your brain to think about another layot as typing in another language?
By the way Russian needs to know 2 keyboard layouts. In OUR language and in English. And this my friend we learn from the beginning because layouts with only Russian language doesn't even exist. (I think. Didn't Google it. At least only Russian layout would be useless on computer.)
people with multiple consoles with different controller layouts notice that after a while its less difficult to adjust and that after even longer you can notice that you don't even have any turnaround times when picking up different controllers. This should also be able to be replicated onto keyboards so if you switch enough between them after a period of time you may notice that you adapt to the layouts (you already know, switching from another layout) really fast
It'd really help if you have separate keyboards for each layout
The redemption part felt like a anime fight where the main character came back to take his revenge on the bad guy after hours of training and clapped him lmao
“Where J?”
Proceeds to type every other key that isn’t j
Someone: why do we use this keyboard layout
Gamers: Shut up wasd
😂😂
*wasd*
Lol
*W A S D*
frrr
Thank you man ,you're a good story teller ,i enjoyed every bit of the video , thank you.
When he was struggling to get the 120 WPM average and was so excited when he got it, and then got it everytime with no effort in the 1v1s, it was basically like getting Super Saiyan in Dragon Ball
This guy is basically jack of all trades, but actually masters everything
A true generalist indeed
Isn’t it jack of all traits?
Joel Kawinski no it’s “Jack of all trades, master of none”
He‘s Asian
fuck my mind i read that as "jack off all trades" and got confused
Everyone gangsta till the Minecraft tutorial says "move with ABCD keys"
hjkl
Todah poop is funny
I wrote this blindly
@@justsomepandawithinternet hmm
@@justsomepandawithinternet I have not located the funny
@@RealValkor
You have wasted your time it's not supposed to be funny
Thank you for making this video. Very interesting to follow the learning curve. One really has to commit and realize it takes many hours of practice. This is true for many new things. I have recently realized that I have enough interests and won't get into another, because it will take time away from things I already love.
Literally have no interest in typing, discord, or anything in this video. Nor do I know this guy. I still watched this whole video like a little kid watching their first cartoon it was so captivating xdd
It really doesn't matter what the topic is as long as the "presenter" is doing a good job...this makes me think I might have liked history if it was taught better...
Anything can be fun with the right person teaching it
Oh god I felt the same way!
I used to think history was so boring but I have found good people like oversimplified who can make things actually interesting while getting the point across, I get that most his videos are about war but for example his Hitler videos aren't about war and are pretty detailed, I bet you that he could make the enlightenment era interesting even though the whole thing is basically nothing
My History teacher before quitting was the best teacher I have ever met, she didn’t just repeat history stories, she relate them to captivating life experiences she had, she also cared deeply about her students. One time, she saw I was falling asleep, so she made me pass around candy she brought to everyone, making me move around helped me become more awake, and it was a subtle way to help me, instead of calling me out in class, alerting everyone I wasn’t paying attention.
I think you're on to something
This is kind of like an experience that i’ve had. Since I was nine I have done figure skating. I’m currently in high school and I still do it competitively. Last year I decided to try out hockey, I thought it would be fun since i’m short it would work because i can’t really play games like basketball. I also had just started playing field hockey too which isn’t quite the same but has some shared skills. I figured my skating ability would translate on hockey skates. I was wrong. In case you didn’t know, figure skates and hockey skates have different blades. Figure skates are longer and have toe picks, while hockey skates are shorter, have more curvy edges, and are rounded on the back side. I ended up falling backwards a lot because i wasn’t used to the back side being rounded. Also, the edges are different which is basically the sensitivity of when you lean the boot, how curved you skate. It was hard. I was trying to learn a new sport while also relearning to skate. I felt that I was handicapped because I continued to go back to a figure skating style. Over the course of the season I got better. I was better able to switch between going to figure skating practice and hockey practice. I would stumble the first few seconds but then something in my brain would click and i would be able to skate on either one. I had a tournament at the end of the season. It took place over multiple days and many games. It was basically like immersion rather than switching between styles multiple times a week. During that tournament I got a lot more confident and better with hockey skates. I think my progress was a lot slower because I continued to figure skate but I was able to develop the ability to switch between them. Now, I’m definitely way better at figure skating than hockey. Hockey is a really hard sport that takes years to master and Ive only played it over the course of around 6 months. I haven’t worn hockey skates since march due to corona but I’ve continued to figure skate so I wonder if i can still retain my ability to switch between skates since i’ve been back to my default for so long.
@aeon masueru same idk why, can't control myself
The way he rolls out this story makes it feel like a drama anime
I almost cried...
maybe the true drama is the anime we made along the way
9:08 add some dramatic music and it's oscar winning
Can't wait for the next season
Hey, I'm coming back to this video to thank you, for introducing me to a whole community based on typing. I am not talking about custom keyboard building and I am using a membrane keyboard that I have for like 2-4 years now. when I first discovered this video, I was amazed, I loved the video itself, the editing the overall vibe of the video was amazing. anyways, it made me want to try and learn how to type fast, my original goal for this project was to get to 100 wpm, but after getting to it I realized one score of 100 wpm is not going to cut it. I brought a friend to try this new experience out with me and we both reached an average of about 80 words per minute before slowing down with practice a bit, getting a little bit burnt out, and obviously the excitement was also kind of slowing down as times went on, I kept on practicing every once in a while, you know, for fun, I enjoyed showing people my "incredible" typing speed and I loved their reaction, all though it didn't mean much to them I'm sure, I was just some nerdy kid who types on a keyboard fast, but it really boosted my motivation to keep on practicing typing. anyways, I came here to tell you that I am currently standing at about an average of 140 words per minute and still enjoy typing a lot, I just realized I wrote a whole paragraph without thinking too much of it. anyways, thank you. sincerely yours, some random kid on the internet.
“Take a moment and look down to your keyboard”
Mobile users:
*Demonic screeching noices*
You know mobile have a keypad so it's basically the same...
@@TH-my3ps but for them it's easier to switch to anything. we have to physically buy the keyboard
Lol keyboard losers
I use my pee pee 😎
@@sonny3703 one of the most random yet quite and very precise comments. good stuff
While I'm still much slower on dvorak than qwerty, since I frequently switched back and forth I find now that I can switch nearly instantly. When I was first learning I wouldn't be able to type qwerty later in a day if I had practiced dvorak earlier, but I got much faster at switching over time. If worry over not being able to type qwerty anymore is holding you back, make sure you still type qwerty at least a couple of times a week and you'll be fine.
Pinguefy: tries to figure out keyboard and dedicated a entire video to keyboard
Jschlatt: throws keyboard
at 8:18 the track playing was mesmerizing. Shiro Sagisu, hi work is astonishing.
Interestingly, I had no issue learning to type in a different layout that was in a different alphabet (Cyrillic) for another language (Russian). Knowing how to touch type made the transition very fast (just a couple of days). So apparently, the ability to touch type in general and the respective layout are stored in different parts of the brain. I sometimes do get some logjams, however, when I switch between writing in Russian (Cyrillic) and Polish (Latin-QWERTY) as the languages are very close and often have the same words just written in the respective alphabet. I don't have a problem switching between Polish QWERTY and German QWERTZ (where the letters except for Y/Z are the same, but the extra keys differ). So, I assume, the keyboard layout is mainly connected to the brain area which stores individual language characteristics.
Same. I type in cyrillic (Bulgarian) too
Can we appreciate the fact that this is some of the highest quality content I’ve ever seen on RUclips, 21 minutes long, and only 3 ads. Amazing.
Your real keyboard keyboard and that displayed on the screen both are different layout, they both differs. You can observe it at the place where backspace is located. I'm amazed of what a hardworking person you are and how self-motivated you are. This is something I am really lacking, but I try everyday. Cheers.
After watching this, I'm starting to see these layouts as slightly simpler languages. English is not my first language, yet I am more proficient in it than my first one. Same has happened to you. You learned the workman layout so well, you're more proficient in it that you are with QWERTY, which you partially forgot, because it wasn't needed anymore. Why would you learn both languages, if either one is good enough to communicate with just about everyone?
You have got to be the most underrated youtube lmao
People like you make me feel like hes rated the way he is for a reason
@@BrilliantGamerRoblox oops, *youtuber
@@duskess6411?
Ok
and the most _cultured_ youtuber as well
my man playing touhou music
this is like a non-aggressive motivation video. i like it
Committing is definitely the most important part. When I decided to learn dvorak I thought I could still maintain qwerty, but it ruined me. I decided to commit and change all my keyboards to dvorak, even on my phone. I also rearranged the physical keys on my desktop keyboard. I found the phone keyboard actually made the biggest difference at first because it actually allowed me to see the locations of the keys, which helped me to commit it to memory. The fact that I didn't have a qwerty keyboard to fall back on was what got me through the initial grind. It was horrible at first, especially when I had to take notes during a class, but I learned to use shorter sentences and point form until my typing speed improved. I persisted because I had no choice and it was an amazing feeling when after a year I finally surpassed my old qwerty typing speed. Now it's been over four years since i've even touched a qwerty keyboard and I don't know if I could switch back even if I wanted to. I can't even remember where most of the keys are.
I switched to Dvorak on my main keyboard years ago, and haven't looked back. I also experienced having a lot of difficulty switching back to Qwerty at first, but after a while, using both layouts on different systems, it came back and I can type both layouts effectively. I do have faster typing speed on Dvorak than I've ever approached on Qwerty.
BRO I FELT INSPIRED. ITS LIKE AN ANIME SCENE WHERE THE PROTAGONIST OVERCOME THEIR LIMITS
You should try learning to write your non-dominant hand! I've committed to it for a month and a bit now, and the learning curve seems as steep as this one; But I know you could do it! : )
Also, your content is amazing, and super motivating! It's because of you that I learned to use mouse acceleration, which is now my main setup! I'm also learning ambidexterity and you keep me motivated to learn piano, violin, and music production! Your content helps motivate me to try my best. Thank you, and keep it up!
I have the opposite problem, i write really well with my left, non dominant hand, and really poorly with the right hand. I blame it on the years of avid pc gaming
@@ArtyTheta I don't think that's a problem, it seems to me that you are just more experienced writing with your left so it ended up with those writing muscle memories that your right doesn't have.
@@ArtyTheta It reminds me of the fact that I play cards with my left-hand for some weird reason.
I also committed and I the best I can do is slowly but properly write with my non dominant. Oh and properly use chopsticks
This guy doesn't upload often but when he does it always amazing.
About a year and a half ago, this video inspired me to learn workman. I've been typing in it since then and I stopped practicing after getting to about 130 wpm. It took me a bit longer than in this video but I also don't think I practiced as much. The main issue I've had with it is compatibility across various platforms and at other people's computers. Every time I start a new game I have to rebind everything before even playing the tutorial, or sometimes if the game doesn't allow it I have to play the tutorial without changing my keybinds. Chromebooks do natively support workman so I can use it on those pretty easily, and it's not hard to setup if I have to use someone else's pc for an extended period of time. I would say it's been worth it for me and I have a lot of fun with it. If you're considering switching, I would suggest trying it for a week and seeing if you enjoy the challenge of it, as the practicality isn't really there.
holy shit, nice
Here are some ideas i think you might like:
1. How much can a widescreen monitor help you out?
2. How much improvement do you get from a certain Hertz to a certain Hertz - maybe a chart?
3. Does the gaming strat where you replace WASD with IJKL (with Qwerty) and use the four keys to the right of the spacebar actually help?
Thanks for your videos, they are amazing :)
At first I was like "How could you forget how to type in qwerty???"
But then I think about every time I try an unfamiliar game and get used to it, then I press seemingly random buttons when I go back to my regulars. When you do something for so long, it's second nature. When you learn something new, you have to constantly think about what you're doing until you're used to it. That constant mind-on-keyboard/controller thought process messes with you when you go back to something familiar. You've been so focused on the new controls that it's the first time in a while your brain has had to FIGURE OUT how to do something, and it won't let go.
"Grappling hook! Wait there's no grappling hook in this game. Wait why is there a grenade ricocheting back to me?"
Its like playing GTA your whole life and then getting your hands on Mafia II
@@azulaooo gta has way too many binds (on pc) tbh so switching to mafia 3 would be easier
Me every time I go from playing a lot of Overwatch back to League. I keep trying to move with AWSD. So many wasted W abilities...
I learned Dvorak last year, and I had a situation no one seems to talk about but which I'm sure isn't uncommon: I could never type well on qwerty in the first place, and I had reached about 20- 30 wpm looking at the keys. Now with Dvorak, after 2-3 months of pain (no practice sessions, just real life), I can reach 30-40 wpm, but more importantly the layout is much more comfortable and I have zero risk of reference reliability. If you don't touch type well right now, I 100% recommend you find the time and make the sacrifice. TL;DR: I always found learning Qwerty hard but committing to Dvorak worked out.
Thanks for the fantastic video. I just switched from QWERTY average ~135wpm to Colemak, and 3 days later am at 25 wpm. Feeling very demoviated but this video helped out:)
Any update on your progress?
Any update from you, dude?
That "I had to slow down to get faster." hits kinda deep
The long awaited, the video we waited for, for 2 - 3 months... It's finally here c:
@Tristin Orthmann hello c:
Biggest problem with learning a new layout is anywhere you go you're gonna be stuck with a qwerty layout. So unless you have full control, qwerty will always have a hold on you.
You can change it in software
On all modern operating systems, layout settings are per user, and colemak is commonly available by default.
Hooked On Chronics cringe
Becca no it’s
Cringe :/
Same exams force you to use a computer you have no control, and you cannot run any software or use the internet.
Never did I expect to hear Gitaroo Man music in a video essay about keyboard layouts, but I'm absolutely here for it
Me: **wants to press d**
**Looks up to screen**
**presses a**
I really hate how so many people are "We've always done it so why change it."
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it's because it's inconsiderate for those who work hard and memorize the qwerty format. i have a bad memory and i dont remember things easily. i have to memorize the qeety format in months. there are others who are still trying to memorize and may not able to adopt if things change. let's just understand each other's struggle
@@verosestudio it's not like a government is going to institute a forced changed to a new layout, so you will never be forced to learn one. The people saying this are dismissing the validity of new layouts with the argument "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," which would leave us in the stone age.
@@pinguefy oh i get it. i also don't understand why others are denying new layouts but i do hope that qwerty layout wont be gone. thanks for letting me understand
@@pinguefy that's not really a valid comparison
Byus us a brsb.
This is a test.
Oh, this is gonna be a journey to learn.
LOL good luck :D
I ended up learning Dvorak over midterms in High School in 2014 or so. It wasn't smart at the time, but I got so much practice I ended up touch typing within two weeks (with tons of errors of course). I peaked about 8 months later, hitting around 70 wpm with minimal errors. Now I do 80 wpm steady, jumping up to 90 when copying text. To put it in perspective, I went from 30 wpm with QWERTY to 80-90 wpm with Dvorak, without really trying too much. The speed came with the efficiency of the layout.
I'm glad more attention is being brought to alternative keyboard layouts. I would note that Dvorak isn't as difficult as it looks. Sure, it looks foreign compared to QWERTY, but it's a very logical layout and will come naturally to you once you get a handle on where everything is. I'd recommend folks give it a shot before settling with another alternative.
i love your drive and determination dude, your ability to gain a new skill is definitely inspiring
Thank you for bringing up the counter-argument to switching layouts, it's definitely important to keep that in mind when thinking about switching. I was thinking about switching to dvorak and even tried it and using all my fingers but then realized there are people who hunt and peck qwerty and still hit 140wpm lol. So me using six fingers with qwerty isn't really all that bad since I can already type faster than I really need to for just normal usage, and I can always improve my speed later if I want to really work on it.
There was a kid at school who swore his keyboard at home was different. We called him a lier, he could of had a different layout lol
Im Surprised no one pointed out you spelt liar wrong
@Suburban Burrito grammar police
@@suburbanburrito210 I'm surprised no one pointed out you spelled I'm wrong. :)
Just randomly got this in my recommended about a year after first watching it and this inspired me to learn workman. Just want to thank you for making this video and introducing me to the world of alternate keyboard layouts
This video is a perfect example that YOU can change everything you want. Not only qwerty keyboard, you can change your life and your opinions.
I can go ultra instinct on my keyboard when im losing a game and being toxic.
same haha
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Am pickle
Same haha
Same
I can type out insults while pvping someone
This video convinced me to start taking typing seriously. My whole life i’ve done the two finger method, typing who knows how few words per second, but I should really start getting more confident with my typing before college essays bite me in the ass, Thanks for the motivation man
I can barely reach 50 wpm and yes I too use two fingers.
I literally watched the whole thing, usually I’m a person with a short attention span and can’t watch any video for more than 5 minutes without switching. But this was so interesting to watch and well made.
stop watching TikTok
Found this on my reccomended randomly and enjoyed tf put of it, everytime this happens to me the person im watching they blow up and get a couple million subs or so im not even kidding. T H I S I S A S I G N
yeah but imagine playing games without WASD
nah fam i use my ears to move the character.
nah fam i use my hands to move the character.
The game: Use WASD to use
You: DASH
What the hell doesnt everyone use their leg to move the character
Some PC games don't let you redefine keys either. 8 and 16 bit computers allowed this more often, if you didn't like the arrow keys or 'QAOP and SPACE'
For the record I love channels like yours with infrequent high quality content. Not that I would mind more content, but the skill learning videos are amazing and obviously take time to create since it takes time to learn the skill.
Since you're already a musician, I think it would be very interesting to see you learn to sing if you can't already.
i've passively been trying to hone that skill whenever there's no one else around lmao
yeah i personally love this type of uploading. im not on youtube all that much anymore so instead of getting overwhelmed by an immense amount of vids i now have to limit and chose from
0:57 The origins are actually somewhat clear-ish. The QWERTY keyboard was developed because people found it to be easier than the alphabetical layout so it was created because it was found to be more efficient than that keyboard there. The most uncommon keys were thrown into corners while the home row, besides for "S", is completely alphabetical. It developed overtime with revisions made to increase its efficiency. That does not mean it's "the best" keyboard, but the QWERTY keyboard was not created over some archaic problem like people like to believe.
2:55 I got a nostalgia explosion hearing that. Gitaroo man was a wonderful game and shaped my music taste quite a bit. Anyway, great video.
This guy reminds me of Mike boyd in the fact that both of them just like improving and learning new skills
The qwerty layout was also designed in such a way, that you can type "typewriter" only using the top row of keys in the keyboard, so people who have that job can flex on others
Very inspired. I also am a very fast typist (130 wpm) and I also decided to switch layouts. Currently 2 months into colemak around 80wpm average and improving pretty fast maybe 5 wpm a week. 15k races on nitro type and 123 hrs on monkeytype
A popular theory is that Qwerty was designed to slow down left handed typists, but QI confirmed that it's just to reduce the frequency of typewriter jams. It's a disappointing truth
I mean, you were half right: it was designed to slow down left *and right* handed typists.
@@trickytreyperfected1482 it was made to give me a headache
How many moons does the Earth have?
@@pinguefy Just the one, if you're not including all those satellites, right?
@@pinguefy Ah, just looked up the QI clip. I had no idea that we had another one, though it's pretty forgivable given that it orbits us once every 770 years
you are more and more being my favourite person to watch on here, love the stuff man
And here I was, as a foreigner living in Germany, annoyed as hell because they switched the place of the letters “y” and “z” (vide qwertz keyboard). Little did I know...
Xdd
It's thanks to this video that I got super into speed typing
The first time I watched this my speed was around 80WPM, and now I can get around 110-115
Thanks for making this and getting me into this great hobby
6:48 GOLD
Lmao
*”listen here you little shi-*
I love these videos and it is about time you made a video on keyboard layouts! I personally tried to learn dvorack a long time ago and I actually learned it fast enough to match my qwerty speed (30 wpm at the time lol). I dropped dvorak because, well, i was after speed too. but i found that i was going about it the wrong way. If i wanted speed, practice is what i needed, not a supposedly more "efficient" layout. I started to relearn better typing techniques in qwerty and WPM is now around 90!
The main reason i stuck with qwerty is that it is the default layout in all tech these days and i really didn't want to shoot myself in the foot. Thing is, when you get used to a layout very well, its pretty difficult to flip that switch and return to qwerty. It makes more sense for me to learn the dominant layout well instead of learning a niche layout and setting it up on every device i get in the future. the speed difference is negligible in the long run imo. Also, some keyboard shortcuts i depend on just break with alternate layouts.
For anyone wanting to learn a new layout, the main advantage of layouts that use less movement is that they strain your hands less (you would get less pain and carpal tunnel and stuff). I highly recommend that you learn a new layout like dvorak if you type a lot and your hands feel cramped. As for the speed typists out there, really any layout works well as long as you practice!
Just gotta say, this man is one of the most inspirational people ever, I look up to this guys dedication to learn new things, he may not master many of them but to be able to start something and carry on with it until you are almost exceptional at it is what I think makes him one of the best people I have seen
This is exactly like swapping from controller to mouse and keyboard. I feel the grind man
Really appreciate the detail and effort you put into your videos. This one was entertaining, well made, and super informative as well. I've done research on different layouts in the past but at the time the investment to relearn didn't quite seem worth it. I even went quite far into the rabbit hole of typing efficiency but never went for it. I did switch my phone and iPad keyboards to Colemak and after getting used to it found myself enjoying the flow it made. I rarely find myself genuinely worrying about speed on phones and tablets but just that aspect of fluidity was fun to see. I think I'm gonna have to make the switch after watching this video. Probably just to Colemak since I'm not as ambitious as you were here.
tbh, I do regret picking workman over colemak, but it's never too late for me to learn another one...
thanks for the kind words and good luck!
I switched to Colemak because of this video just for fun to see what it's like, and man, I am in love. Typing is so fun now, I almost rather type than play a game or something.
When I've been typing for about 2 months i was typing as fast as i could i only typing 60 average but after one week of more practicing i am averaging about 70 now it may look not good but for me it's a huge achievement
I practiced with qwerty for years and topped out at 70-90 wpm (touch typing). I immersed myself in Dvorak and caught up in 2 weeks. Within a month, I had topped 100 wpm.
I've stopped practicing for typing speed, and my average speed has settled back to 90-100 wpm.
I can still type with qwerty. Probably around 40 wpm. But remember I practiced it like crazy for many years.
you need to use the ASDF method and adjust it according to difficult words to type fast with QWERTY. I’ve reached 130 - 140 wpm in about 2 months with it, starting from 50 wpm. without ASDF my max was 100wpm
@@malcolmdoss9748 by "ASDF" method I assume you mean home row and touch typing? I do that with both layouts. Honestly I haven't been very interested or engaged in improving my QWERTY typing speed for many years. I don't care that I'm slow on QWERTY.
@@_ericelliott np, let’s be real. it’s just typing.
but you claimed to practice QWERTY for many years and hit a peak at 40 wpm after practicing “like crazy.” don’t be offended dude but I don’t believe this. Most kids get to 60 wpm to 80 wpm just from daily use as they grow up playing games or writing essays for school, without using home row and/or deliberately trying to become fast typists. this includes me, and I hardly even played computer games.
The impression that I got from reading your comment and that most people would get is that you need to learn a different keyboard layout to type faster which is completely false.
Anyone can learn to type fast with QWERTY (150 wpm? 180wpm? sure), and if you can use it to reach your typing speed goals, learning alternative layouts is quite a waste of time given that QWERTY is universal and in fact useful to know for the practical purpose of using someone else's machine.
If you want to learn a different layout just to challenge yourself or for the fun of it, go ahead. But if you just want to type fast, learning a different layout is frankly a waste of time and a huge blunder if you're going to forget how to type with QWERTY
@@malcolmdoss9748 I peaked 70-90 wpm. I only fell back to ~40wpm because I rarely use QWERTY since I learned Dvorak. I was into software development and chatting online so I used my touch typing skills on QWERTY several hours per day every day for many years before switching to Dvorak.
After switching, I very quickly met and exceeded my typing skills with QWERTY after far less practice and daily use. So yeah. I took to Dvorak MUCH better than I ever took to QWERTY, and touch typing/home-row was not the difference. I used the same techniques and the same kinds of typing exercises to learn both. In my opinion, Dvorak is a far superior layout.
Maybe you just have a natural talent for QWERTY that I didn't have. That's cool.