seeing artists who are already this skilled trying to improve their skills are like a light on this dark path of artistic growth, like, "oh, this is exactly what the greats are doing to get better. I can try that too, instead of making everything up." thank you so much for the wonderful video
No problem, I am so glad you found it useful. I feel the same way, which is why I try to back up what I am saying with as much science as possible and make it accessible to everyone.
14:54 I think you mispoke and said, "8 hrs" instead of "80 hours" I've reached out to a couple Riot Splash artists to ask them how long these images take. They spend about a month to month and a half on a single image. That's somewhere between 160-200 hours. I imagine most pieces are solidly within the 100-150 range. As for professional workflows: you seem really proficient and comfortable with the lasso tool. Start your images by making a silhouette selection of each character and then lock that shape to paint within it (or add layers masked to it, etc.) Having clearly defined boundaries and silhouettes is a huge part of maintaining clarity in composition and workflow hygiene. I've worked in black and white to color but have recently built enough confidence to work directly in color. Whatever gets the job done, I say!
That's good advice, thank you! The lasso tool does seem to be something I get on well with, so I think you are onto something. I think I just massively underestimated how long it takes to make an image of that calibre. That must be why they get multiple artists to work on some of those images, just to get there a bit faster.
@@10.000hrs You want to follow Bo Chen who is the principal illustrator for Riot Games. He has a YT channel showcasing his League of Legends art. He is an incredible artist with a traditional background. When you watch his process you will see a master who uses traditional techniques along with digital techniques. He does spend up to 100+ hours on his LoL splash art. If you want to see a more traditional approach, check out his Arcane Vi study. Amazing.
Thank you for sharing your journey. Am on a parallel (remarkably similar but with a few variations - I cover your 5 "Pillars" in a slightly different way) journey. I have also "chunked" my schedule down to Quarters/Months/Weeks to help me keep things on track & maintain motivation. I have been in my current "training regime" for about 9 months with about 3 months to go before shifting to another "regime". I found this channel while seeking encouragement in the "lonely" time of putting "miles on the brush". Your videos helped me find a 2nd Wind! Thank you 😊
That's really cool! That sounds like a really good training program. Well done for persevering, you must be very dedicated. I am glad the video helped you out!
This is the kind of knowledge I'm in a sore need of. I think I've reached a point where I've developed my eye enough to be more aware of the technical skills/ details present in most pieces of art (pieces that I like or frequently observe, anyway), but I'm still struggling to internalize the skill to produce that kind of art. My other problem is that I still can't quite settle on certain role models (beacons) to follow or try to imitate, but it often happens that the references I follow either have aspects that bore me or are too hard for me to grasp, so sadly that just feeds my lack of consistency in art and wastes time 😅But I guess it's part of the journey.
That's an interesting insight. It sounds like you have a good degree of self-awareness which is a really good thing! I think there is so much good art out there nowadays it can become very overwhelming, and that can cause us to become somewhat paralysed and inactive. I don't know if it would help, but you could always try setting a micro goal - pick something small to try and internalize within 3 to 6 months, and then re-evaluate again.
10:30 really wise words. I felt unmotivated to do art most of the time; something which has been *massively* remedied because i placed a pinterest widget which shows me 3 randomly "picked for you" pieces smack bang in the middle of my phone homepage where i keep all my apps. If i want to open almost anything on my phone; i have to look at inspiring, beautiful art, which i genuinely believe i could reach the level of one day, every single time. Its great.
If you have found what motivates you personally, then that is so awesome! It's such a huge step towards getting the things you want in life. I wish you every good thing in your learning and growth as an artist and know you can hit the levels you want to reach! Thanks for watching 💖
You're at such an incredible place already, your traditional studies are on point but color and shading are definitely something even professionals doubt themselves on. I like to use pre-made or limited palettes and take advantage of layer modes when working digitally to get shades I like :)
Thank you! The world of colour and painting seems so much more complicated than just drawing. Those sound like some good ways to make it easier to play with, so I will try them.
@@10.000hrs Interesting you should say this, because Sycra (look up the name on RUclips) seems to think that as he gets better at drawing-anatomy, construction, shapes, line-work-coloring just naturally improves with it.
@Selrisitai I guess maybe it depends from person to person? I really have never spent much time colouring stuff, so I really am quite new to it, but that kind of 'included benefit' may be something I notice as I develop further. Thanks for sharing!
I have a single senpai image from my 3 favorites Yoji Shinkawa Tsutomu nihei Kim Jung Gi I don't care about finish, I care about a sketch so good it already is finished, maintaining all the energy of the first loose marks
@@10.000hrswhat I love about Yoji is his fluid, liquid lines that on their own look like nothing, but somehow in context suggest a full 3d form. My impression is that he does loads of preparatory sketching, and iterates on his line choices before proceeding to the finals that we get to see... but that's just my impression
I really appreciate your approach. I tend to think if I have a limitation then it's a shortcoming and in some way a flaw in my own personality, which I know is silly. However, the way you expressed doing something to the best of your current abilities and picking our your limitation as a goal to be specifically worked on somehow made me feel better about my own. I've heard it before from other people, but just the way you said it was helpful. Thank you. I'm looking forward to updates.
You are most welcome. I too find that sometimes having the same information retold by different individuals helps. A lot of self-help books just seem to retell the same advice, but sometimes, the way a particular author says it seems to resonate. I'm glad that I could do that for you. Thanks for your support and good luck with your art!
I'm so interested and excited for the upcoming videos and I love the way you incoprating the science of learning and neuroscience, because that is what i'm trying to do currently with my art journey definitely gonna stick for this ride !
Awesome! I'm glad you find it interesting. Hopefully I can continue to produce content you like. Thanks for your support, and please let me know how things go on your art journey!
Good luck to you pal, I enjoyed the video and it takes me back to some of the struggles I've been through too. One big thing that I feel holds a lot of new artists back is limited self belief, i.e., thinking some things are too hard or impossible for them, and setting their goals so low as to never really try to improve. I don't see this standing in your way and I look forward to seeing how you progress. Plus I really like your 3 Senpai images idea, I might incorporate that myself soon! cheers!
Thank you very much! That's a great insight. It is very easy to get discouraged, and the progress can be hard to see happening, which is why I like tracking it. Thanks for stopping by, and good luck to you too!
Would you consider doing your digital work in greyscale then applying colour after you've added light shadow highlights?, it might help you transition into coloured pieces easier.
Yes, I have seen this before, and it does seem to be a decent idea. I'm learning to paint traditionally at the same time, though, and find that I personally gravitate more towards a direct colour approach, but I will experiment with both digitally.
I'm about to start my own art journey from scratch and so glad to have discovered your channel! I just took tons of notes on this video alone and I am ready to get started!! Definitely appreciate the brainstorming of 3 artists I want to be able to replicate in style. My ultimate goal (1st goal technically) is to learn to sketch. I don't care too much about color, value, and things like that but just the bare basics, I want to be able to create a really nice sketch that I'm proud of! Afterwards, my 2nd goal would be to master watercolor. I've always loved watercolor but every time I pick up a brush, it just looks like a complete mess, extremely discouraged every time but the way I dream of drawing and painting, I know it's possible! Thank you for explaining the road map and pillars you've created for us art newbies to follow!
That sounds like a great start because you know what you want, you're very focused, and are staring with basic things before getting more complicated! I wish you the very best of luck for learning! There are times when it can be tough, but keep sight of your goals! I know you can do it! 💪❤️
My senpai artists have always been Kim Jung Gi, Bryce Kho, & Akihito Yoshitomi. The goal to create graphic novels of my stories. So its rather hard I feel to distill the goal down. If I had to guess, its focusing on drawing from imagination, understanding 3d forms to draw without construction lines, and I really love the brush pen so getting better with that.
As a guy learning 3D Animation and modeling on top of illustration, I can definitely say I probably would be a lot better if I only focused on one of those skills. However, the book "Atomic Habits" by James Clear have some very good points like setting up systems to practice and the plateau of latent potential. I've been applying some of that advice to my routines, which have helped a bit. I'll be following this series closely as I too am a very technically oriented person, work smarter not harder is word's to live by.
That's my motto too! I actually use Anki and spaced repetition to learn a bunch of things, just this channel focuses on art because it's already been proven that SR works on things like language learning or learning to code. I think you can definitely make gains in multiple subjects by doing a little on each per day. I tend to have 1 subject that I emphasise though. The idea of learning multiple subjects at once is called interleaving and there is some evidence to suggest that it makes you learn FASTER than studying a single subject per session.
I love this video! Im also learning art while considering what I know of the science of learning, and I do find it a bit difficult to measure my progress. Your idea of doing a specific subject in a specific tool and limited time is great, im gonna do this as well, thank you! I have also broken art down to a few aspects that I find are the most important parts to what I want to accomplish. If your goal is to be able to draw without reference I would recommend learning to construct figures like Michael Hampton for example, or doing a simple mannequin out of cubes and cylinders first to get the feeling of 3d. Michael Hampton has some really good videos on his youtube channel, if you havent seen them. Good luck on your art journey, im looking forward to see how it goes.
Thank you! I really appreciate your comment. That's a fantastic resource and should prove very useful, thanks so much for sharing it. I wish you all the best, hopefully we can both achieve our art goals ✨️
I appreciate the depth and care of thought that went into your approach to learning. I am in a similar position where I've drawn for many years, but never "seriously." I've narrowed my "senpai images" down to a piece by R. Crumb and one from Kim Jung Gi, which has helped to materialize the goal in my mind at least.
Sounds great! It's honestly so much easier to work towards a goal when you have an image you can look at and say 'what am I missing?' Thank you for your interest and support, and I wish you the very best of luck on your own art learning journey 💞
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've wanted to bring the things in my imagination to life for years (I'm Austistic and maybe have ADHD), but I can't focus for the life of me. 😅 I could maybe draw circles and straight lines right now, but I want to reach my 'decade goal' of creating/publishing a graphic novel. I want to do a version of the 10,000 hour challenge: 10hrs, 50hrs, 100hrs, 200hrs, 1000hrs... I wonder if form might come before value and color? At least to me.
That's awesome! You should definitely try it, you learn a lot about art and about yourself and how you learn. The pillars in this video are sort of my best effort to break down artistic skill into it's most general terms, but in reality they are all actually the same thing. For example, although 'form' might mean drawing in lines, if you are painting, then the values and colours you choose replace the lines to create the form. No doubt as you start experimenting and playing around, you'll gain your understanding of all this slightly different to mine, and that's part of the fun of this. Everyone learns differently and is unique! I wish you the very best in achieving your goals, your brain is amazing, and so you already have everything you need make your goals a reality! 💖✨
Very good videos. Do you have an ETA of the next video? And could you share some resources of what you'll be covering, so I could read on my self? I like your approach and I'd like to adjust my training a bit, with information you've provided.
I'm glad you like them. I try to put out a video every 4 weeks or so, depending on what life throws at me. I will include more resources from now on. The best author I've found on the subject of meta- learning is Barbara Oakley. Any of her books will help you, but most of the advice is geared towards those learning 'mostly declarative' things like languages. Art is 'mostly procedural', which means we need a somewhat different approach. There isn't a lot out there on art specific procedural stuff, which is why I make my videos, but Tim Ferriss is good. He has a book called The 4 Hour Chef. The first chapters are available for free on his website and will explain a lot. There are probably resources on RUclips, but I prefer books oddly. For art specific resources, there are numerous, but some of the best would include: Drawing - How to Draw by Scott Robertson Rendering - How to Render by Scott Robertson Landscapes - anything by Mitchell Albala Anatomy - Loomis, Bridgeman, Hampton, and the Tom Fox book Colour - James Gurney, and a really good book called Colour and Light by 3D Total Hope that helps. If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know.
@@10.000hrs Are you planning on making other projects/paintings/drawings between study sessions or just when trying to see your progress (street fighter & landscape). A lot of people recommend to also draw 'fun' stuff in between practice, but I've noticed that it's mostly for motivation and to not get burned out. What if someone isn't getting burned out from practice, is it better to just focus on that, without the 'fun' stuff?
Those particular baseline studies will only be repeated every 200 hours, but yes, I will create other studies in between to help build up my skills, to learn, and to experiment. If you feel burned out, you may be doing too much! The most important thing is that you are having fun, so do whatever it takes to make that happen, even if it means stepping back and taking a week off so you can come back feeling refreshed! The fun stuff can BE the training, as long as you ensure you are focusing on what you want to improve. You could learn a lot about colour theory by painting pokemon, for example. You would just have to make sure that you are really honing in on the colours the designers used, and thinking about why they work as you study them. Try to think about what you want to get better at, and what you actually want to draw or paint, and see if you can find a way to intersect them. Hope that helps. A similar analogy is that I HATED working out. I don't like gyms, or lifting weights. Then I discovered calisthenics and body weight exercises. These involve strength training to 'unlock' skills like planches and handstands, and because I was having fun learning that, I got stronger! No gyms, no weights, but the same end result, in a fun way.
Haha yeah, it was a long time ago now. The annoying thing is I wanted to get better but back then art at high school here in the UK was more about expression than technical skill (possibly still is) and so there were no lessons on how to actually draw or paint!
@@10.000hrs I attribute this to Picasso, and the western obsession with participation trophies... There's objectivity in art, whether politically correct people like it or not.
@DaKussh I think you are right. It definitely seems that before the early 20th century, art was more about impressionism and technical skill. To each their own, though.
The teachers that actually say this stuff are almost as bad those who tell kids they are worthless. It's like kids getting told they can't sing. They never try again or think they suck. Singing is an athletic event as much as an artistic or intellectual one, similar to dance. You literally have to train, but at the same time almost anyone can be taught to carry a tune. I suppose that's the similarity here, almost anyone can draw, but drawing well is a matter of training.
some things I learned about colors. Yellows oranges- light tones reds - around midtones blues purples greens - dark midtones use the 1-10 value scale as reference. (1 lightest and 10 as darkest) for example, a yellow hue would be around 2-3 and blue is around 5-8 assuming they are at full saturation. hope that makes sense. If not, just take a color wheel and turn it into grayscale youll see what I mean.
This is a great video. I'd urge you to consider another factor as you apply some science to your learning . Simplification is the key. Complexity is by its very nature hard to understand , there are lots of moving parts and its hard to understand how multiple inputs effect the final result. Ideally we want to isolate each variable and fully understand it before we move onto the next. So if we want to practice line weight , trace a photo , remove all the other variables and just focus one thing . If you want to practice costume design draw different costumes over the same manikin. There are a lot of steps to get from nothing to finished artwork. If we always start at the beginning and work to the end , the beginning gets more attention and the end remains weak. Try to find ways to jump in the middle. Draw overs , photography , abstract art , allow you to practice other important skills , and escape the rut of endless figure drawing .
Glad you enjoyed it, those are some fantastic thoughts that I had not considered before. Thank you so much for making me aware of them, I will try and implement them to make things even simpler. Do you know any good resources for learning more about how to think like this?
I’ll be honest, I actually prefer learning complex over simplified, especially since I like to draw cyborgs. That inherent difficulty of figuring out principle of design with human anatomy just strikes a resonant chord with me.
That's really interesting. Learning is such an individual thing. I have read some studies about how pushing yourself to the limits of your comfort zone can be a big benefit to learning. I'd like to make a video on that at some point.
@@10.000hrs simplification, abstraction and emphasis are good techniques to practice in design , composition and figure drawing. Now its on your mind i think you'll begin to see it everywhere. If you watch how Proko places lines you can see that each curve has a kind of smooth precision that doesn't need extra fuss to make it work ruclips.net/video/FyZYTVn0zYU/видео.htmlsi=9UAWeWZiFqF9e1pO&t=341. A friend called it 'economy of line'
@@jamfilledjars I think you misunderstand. Its not about drawing simple things . Its about drawing complex things economically. I really like the way Sparth evokes the feeling of mechanical complexity by using shadows ruclips.net/video/nuJOQ41xzpA/видео.html
I will try and do that for you when I reach some milestones. Thank you for your kind words. I started drawing at about 14, so you are already ahead of me when I was your age! Keep at it!
For the image-related goal, is it recommended to distill it to 3 artist/images or could I have potentially more (e.g. at least 5 artist and, at most, 10)? There's a bunch of artist I like but I wasn't sure if the purpose of distilling it is to better track of what you want your art to be? I assume the picks are just mainly for insperational purposes? I just ask because it's hard for me to distill it to a few artist.
If I had to pick three right now, at gunpoint, they'd be: Yoshituki Sadamoto, Mine Yoshizaki, and Yoji Shinjkawa. Otherwise, I'd like to spend some time studying other artist and styles like Robert Crumb, art nouveau, Jack Kirby. At least when I get the chance. Most of my focus would be stuff like anatomy, composition, gestures/flow, etc.
You could pick as many as you want! I think 3 is a good number though because it's not too much to get overwhelmed with things you want to work on, and it kind of forces you to consider what is most important to you. You could always pick 3 or 5 for now, and then review your choices again in maybe 6 or 12 months. You might even discover new people along the way who inspire you! ❤️ I like your choices though. Yoji Shinkawa is amazing.
Thank you! I am still learning anatomy. Originally from books, mostly by Andrew Loomis and George Bridgeman, but I found all it really did for me was make me good at copying. The Tom Fox book is also very good if you want a place to start. After that, I started to look at the muscles in the book, and then try to draw figures from a resource like Proko to try and apply the shapes as I drew figures.I would then try and do it without the book. After that I would draw boxes and forms in perspective and try to place the muscles onto those, which is what has unlocked the 'draw from imagination' skill. When I draw anatomy now, I am very much thinking in 3 dimensions, not just drawing 2d shapes. I hope to make a video on this stuff in the future. Hope that helps! It's really about finding what works best for you. I have heard of people who found the best way was to draw from an actual anatomy model or even cadavers!
@10.000hrs Thank you for this videos. Where do you find so many references to draw? I see that you draw many differente variations of poses, faces, etc.
Well, a lot of them are from imagination, but when I do use reference, I use the timer tool on Proko. You can purchase photo packs for a relatively cheap price and use the timer tool to randomly study a bunch of them. Most of my work in the videos so far is me using one of these references, but then I imagine swinging the camera around and drawing it from another viewpoint, from imagination. I believe that is the secret to really understanding the human body in perspective, and thus drawing figures from your head like Kim Jung Gi and Tom Fox. Thanks for watching the videos, and I hope that helps!
I have a question about goal setting. I have always wanted to become a more skilled artist when I was younger and never took the initiative. I have recently started to practice again and want to make an actual effort to improve this time. I think that setting a goal would be helpful, and am taking the time to write some out, but I feel they may be too broad. I want to have the ability to make realistic art in both traditional (graphite pencil, colored pencil, etc.) and digital mediums. Would an effective way to reach this large goal be to start out with one medium - like graphite and colored pencils, which would probably be a good foundation - and then work from there by adding in different mediums? I know that there isnt really a required starting day for learning art and its possible to start learning different mediums at any time, but I want to spend the time that I have in an effective way so I can achieve the goal that I have. So essentially, what kind of goal-setting and practice techniques would you recommend for someone who wants to learn various art mediums?
Thanks for your question! You are starting with an end point in mind, which is good. I like having some examples of work I like to aim towards, and compare my work to it infrequently to see what needs doing to push me towards that level, ie better control of edges, stronger understanding of anatomy. That means reviewing your progress. In my opinion, you should focus on the smallest percentage of things that will return the biggest increase in skill. This means finding the simplest things that make the biggest difference and focusing on those until you get a grasp on them. That would be form and value. In terms of media, you can play with whatever you want and will need to invest some time in any one choice to gain a technical mastery of it. More importantly is what core concepts you practice with whatever media you pick. If you want to draw things you see, like painting accurate portraits or landscapes, look at Bargue drawing. This will get you capturing lines and angles accurately that you can then flesh out. If you want to draw from your imagination, then you will need to know a lot more about things like perspective. The best resource I have found on this is the book How To Draw by Scott Robertson. It sounds a bit bizarre, but I would avoid working in colour for a while and focus on value only. This is because colour is not as important in how humans perceive things. In fact, you can use any colour you want, but if the values are poor, the work will never be fixable. There are lots of good resources on working in 3, 5, or 10 values. It's easiest to start with white, black, and 2 equally stepped greys. How to Render by Scott Robertson is a good book, but there are probably a bunch of equally good starter resources out there. Just start with a small amount of values and build up. You will learn how light works in a simplified manner. Once you understand value and can draw accurately, then you can begin thinking about how colour actually works. This will involve all your value skills and bringing in hue and chroma. That's where I'm at right now. A good book I use is Colour and Light by 3D Total. Also, it has some good value stuff, actually. I practice for 1 hour a day and work through books. I create challenges from the pages to train specific things. I review my work when done to see what I could improve on next time. Hopefully, that gives you a bit of a road map. My other videos cover the essential things I train and how I train them using neuroscience techniques to master them quickly if you are interested.
@10.000hrs I appreciate you for taking the time to write such an informative and detailed response. This definitely provides a great roadmap for me to follow as a beginner. Since I'm just in the early stages of learning after a period of not practicing, my main focus is just building consistency in how often I practice. I get easily demotivated, and that's what has kept me from drawing for so long, so staying accountable and being disciplined is truly my biggest roadblock for success at the moment. I want to do both realistic art from observation and be able to draw from imagination (anime and manga fan here!) but realistic art is one of my primary goals, and I feel that having a strong foundation in realistic art will help when drawing in stylized art - there's a reason they say that you have to understand the rules before you can break them in art, and I think this is in line with what you've been posting on your channel - all great artists, no matter what subject they focus on or medium they use, have a good foundation in the "skill pillars" as you have defined them. The tip about abandoning color and focusing on value is definitely helpful and eye-opening for me. I have always enjoyed the use of color in art and want to get skilled at using it, so I was aiming to incorporate them early on in my studies. But you make a great point that understanding color requires us to understand values first, so I will shift my focus to that instead. My colored pencils and pens have been sitting around for a pretty long time now. It won't hurt to wait a bit more before I start to fully use them. I am extremely thankful that you are sharing your journey of growth as an artist and are providing advice to others as well. I am happy to have found your channel and will definitely be referring back to it as a training resource and to see your personal growth as an artist. I hope that you have a wonderful day/night c:
hey, i just found your channel, really interesting your studies and approach to learn art. What do you think would be the 5 pillars for learning sculpture?
I think they would be similar to painting and drawing in many ways, but I'm not an expert or anything. Firstly, you would need technical skills with tools and materials. If working in clay and adding material to build forms, you need to get good at manipulating clay and understanding how to work it in a kiln or whatever. If working subtractively in marble or stone, same deal. You need to get good with your chisels and understand how the material responds. Digital sculpting means you probably need to know a lot about resolution, topology, preparing files for 3d printing, etc. I might also include armatures and physics in here so that you can make things that actually function and won't have arms breaking off! In terms of more artistic pillars, form would still be very important because you would have to be able to recreate realistic volumes. Instead of drawing them in perspective, you would be literally recreating them, with bulges, depressions, and possibly even textures that replicate what you can see or imagine. More importantly, you are directly dealing with light for real. What I mean by that is that depending on where the light physically is relative to your work, the way the forms look will change. You would have to consider light direction possibly before starting to ensure that the shadows on the finished form will be where you want them to be in order to create a clear read, and a nice composition of light and shadow in the surface of your work. It's almost as if some of the pillars I separate for painting and drawing are one and the same for sculpture, at least in my mind. Another big consideration would be gesture and creating forms that flow together nicely. You would have to consider view angle and make sure that the forms are appealing from multiple directions. That's all I can think of right now, but one thing that also comes to mind is scale and detail. If working larger, I imagine people would expect to see some fairly realistic textures and details that might not be possible in a painting of the same scale. Hope that helps a little. I did study a little sculpture at school, but it was more Barbara Hepworth than Michealangelo! Thanks for watching the videos. I am glad you got something out of them and are curious about this subject.
🥲 I feel you. Well, firstly, for me, a huge part was understanding that making mistakes and 'failing' IS the actual learning and getting better part. You don't have to show your studies and experiments to anyone. I share mine here for you all, but they are not what I would probably put in a portfolio. Every drawing page I show is really just a bunch of mistakes! But over time I stop making old mistakes and make new ones. This will always be the case, and so really there's no need to feel pressured. Just allow yourself that freedom. Secondly, if you have a focus or goal, try to remind yourself of it. For so many of us, drawing is just a fun thing we did to chill out as kids, but as we get older and seek some real skill or professional employment in art, the fun can get sucked out of it. Try to always retain the reason why you fell in love with art if you can. I like looking at the artists I admire, or other artists who are at a similar level to me. Sometimes I just copy anime characters like I did when I was a kid to remind myself how fun it was. Thirdly, you are absolutely unique in the art world ❤️ my channel exists because I truly believe that every single person has the potential and skill already within them to achieve anything they want in life. Whatever you want from art, or anything else, I promise you is within your grasp. It might take a lot of work though 😅 but you can do it. You'll find your own path unique to you. Sometimes we just need to be reminded of that to get some confidence back 💖 And remember, there is nothing wrong with taking time away from art to come back stronger after a break! Hope that helps at least a little, and you are welcome to get in touch any time you want to talk! Thanks for watching! ✨️
Nice video! I may not be the target audience (I’ve been a professional artist over a decade, haha) but I’m currently trying to grind out some of my weaknesses and am always trying to find ways to apply meta learning and concepts like deliberate practice to art which, like you point out, can be a lot more slippery and difficult to measure. I hope it’s not too presumptuous, but after watching this I have a couple tips that might help you a bit. * Check your work! With digital art this has never been easier, and it helps you stop turning the same mistakes into habits. With stuff like head and anatomy drawings, taking your best shot, overlaying your attempt on the photos, tracing out where things should actually be, and then actually writing down little notes about what you got wrong can make a world of difference. Having some sort of formal construction really helps, finding a centre line, brow line, more specific guidelines like you would with systems like Loomis or Reilly. With digital painting and learning colour, you’ve got the eye dropper tool - don’t use it in the actual study, obviously, but once you’re done? Checking your colours against your target can help you understand your perceptual mistakes. Beginning painters tend to over and under-exaggerate value and saturation especially, and knowing where your instincts go can help you take a second look and compensate. * It’s never been a better time to understand the techniques of those you admire. A lot of artists - including several Riot artists! - have time lapses of their work up for free on RUclips, or buyable for cheap on places like Gumroad or Cubebrush. Unlike in the pre-internet days (or even the early 2000s when I was first learning) you don’t have to guess at technique, you can see it for yourself. I did have to laugh at the description of a digital painting taking "upwards of 8 hours", a lot of Riot splash art can take easily over 100. I work pretty loose with mostly simple subjects and most of my paintings take 15-30 hours. * A couple free resources you might like: Ctrl+Paint has a bunch of videos that serve as a pretty comprehensive roadmap to getting into digital painting. The blog Muddy Colors has 10 years of posts by long-time industry professionals full of tips and insight. You might like Tommy Arnold, who has a lot of thoughts on learning and goal-setting, and Greg Manchess, whose Ten Things series has a lot of great tips and interesting thoughts.
Thanks so so so much for your comment and advice. I've written those resources and tips down to implement them. Getting input from those more experienced is hugely valuable to me, and I appreciate you taking the time to share yours.
Thanks for sharing. Nice work. It seems like your line quality is significantly better in your traditional media work than your digital work. I noticed this during your Ryu and Chun-li piece and the recap piece. I wonder if this is similar to your gauche comments - more time working digitally would help.
Haha thanks. I've been drawing for quite a while, but the thing to consider when looking at the old sketches is they were always referenced. Take the references away, and I couldn't draw a human figure 🥲 Now I am drawing more from imagination and I still can't do it that well, but it's exponentially better than it was. I tend to draw a referenced pose, then imagine a new viewpoint and try to draw it from that angle. It forces you to consider how the object or figure actually works in 3D perspective. Thanks for watching!
They probably said you were terrible because most high school art, teachers and college art teachers. They absolutely hate anime and comics. If you try to draw that stuff they just sit down on you because they think everything should be studied as realism. And then later and they stylized stuff. Which is not technically true. If u know You're not going to draw realizing you're no point in like studying it for like 10,000 hours
Yes, that is true. A few of the students really only took art to draw anime, and it was forbidden haha. Although I was genuinely terrible at drawing. The annoying thing is they never tried to help me improve, and instead just made me do something else. Art was more about just sort of expressing yourself instead of developing any skill.
@@10.000hrs yeah, most art classes are like that. Even like professional like college courses, they kind of already expect you to know how to draw when you enter art school so they don't really teach you anything. That's why professional artists don't recommend you to go to art school because if you go to a good one, you're spending like over $100,000. It's mostly just for connections. If you go to a good art school You're more likely to get a job at Disney or something. But with art. You just need to have a good portfolio if you want to work in the industry. A lot of artists are self-taught that working gaming
Apparently there's a study published in the Journal of Applied Psychology that suggests that writing you goals make you 42% more likely to achieve it. However, i couldn't find this study, nor the name of the authors :(
Haha yeah I meant 42%. The research I looked at was by a guy called Gail Matthews. The actual value range was something like 33-42% and most people cite the higher end of the range when discussing the research because I guess it's more click-baity or something. Realistically it's probably more the median maybe somewhere around 35%. Whatever the actual number, there was a clear distinction, and those who set goals were more likely to achieve them, so its probably a worthwhile activity! Thanks for watching, I am glad you like the video.
@miguelsolar-rl1bc I just looked and the Gail Matthews one was from Dominican University, which I am pretty sure was the one I linked in the video description if I remember. Not sure about one from the journal, but it's probably out there somewhere. There is a similar study called the Harvard Study. I believe that was slightly different, and tracked down students 10 years after asking them if they had goals. The % that did were more successful, wealthier etc. There are a few studies out there on goal setting as an approach to achieving... well, goals 😆
Ypu should scan every single page of your sketchbook to see the whole advancement on a book or a pdf that would be extremely awesome as it would be an instant and easy to see gradual advancement of the skill. Exactly as if you filmed every single practice session of an athlete. Pls ar least consider doing something like that
Well I post a video every day as a RUclips short that pretty much does this. It's typically 10-30 minutes of the training that day condensed down to around 10 seconds. I have kept all the pages but I jump back and forth quite a lot in the sketchbooks I use to go back and fill areas where there is still white space, so the pages don't show a perfect chronological progression hourly, but they will in terms of 100's of hours. Thanks for the interest though! I will see how I cam best use them to help others as I go 👍
I have a HyperX Solocast microphone, and to record the video footage I actually just use my old Samsung A70 phone 😅 I will get a proper camera eventually.
Sorry! I've tried to increase the volume on subsequent videos, and used a more professional software to help the sound quality. I also subtitle all videos now so in the worst case, you can still follow along. Thanks for the helpful feedback 🙏
I’m a professional artist. I make my living by selling paintings and painting murals all over the world. However, my work is abstract and (typo)graphic, so my figurative painting and drawing skills have never really developed further than..first year of art school? With an ever looming feeling of imposter syndrome to go along with that. Decided a few weeks ago that I wanted to fix that. So I’m Very happy to have found your channel. I will be following along! 🫡🤙🏼
Sweet! It's so good to have professionals following along! I love the insight I can gain from more experienced artists and their feedback. Thanks for your support, and I am glad you find the content useful ❤️
Hey my friend, do you have a social media account or Discord? Would love to follow you if you do. It's kind of hard to share/keep track of one's art journey together on YT.
Hello friend! I actually do not have any social media for this 😅 I don't post my art anywhere else atm but a few people have asked about this, so I will make something at some point and announce it here when I do. Thanks for your interest.
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seeing artists who are already this skilled trying to improve their skills are like a light on this dark path of artistic growth, like, "oh, this is exactly what the greats are doing to get better. I can try that too, instead of making everything up."
thank you so much for the wonderful video
No problem, I am so glad you found it useful. I feel the same way, which is why I try to back up what I am saying with as much science as possible and make it accessible to everyone.
14:54 I think you mispoke and said, "8 hrs" instead of "80 hours"
I've reached out to a couple Riot Splash artists to ask them how long these images take. They spend about a month to month and a half on a single image. That's somewhere between 160-200 hours. I imagine most pieces are solidly within the 100-150 range.
As for professional workflows: you seem really proficient and comfortable with the lasso tool. Start your images by making a silhouette selection of each character and then lock that shape to paint within it (or add layers masked to it, etc.) Having clearly defined boundaries and silhouettes is a huge part of maintaining clarity in composition and workflow hygiene. I've worked in black and white to color but have recently built enough confidence to work directly in color. Whatever gets the job done, I say!
That's good advice, thank you! The lasso tool does seem to be something I get on well with, so I think you are onto something.
I think I just massively underestimated how long it takes to make an image of that calibre. That must be why they get multiple artists to work on some of those images, just to get there a bit faster.
@@10.000hrs You want to follow Bo Chen who is the principal illustrator for Riot Games. He has a YT channel showcasing his League of Legends art. He is an incredible artist with a traditional background. When you watch his process you will see a master who uses traditional techniques along with digital techniques. He does spend up to 100+ hours on his LoL splash art. If you want to see a more traditional approach, check out his Arcane Vi study. Amazing.
Thank you for sharing your journey. Am on a parallel (remarkably similar but with a few variations - I cover your 5 "Pillars" in a slightly different way) journey. I have also "chunked" my schedule down to Quarters/Months/Weeks to help me keep things on track & maintain motivation. I have been in my current "training regime" for about 9 months with about 3 months to go before shifting to another "regime". I found this channel while seeking encouragement in the "lonely" time of putting "miles on the brush". Your videos helped me find a 2nd Wind! Thank you 😊
That's really cool! That sounds like a really good training program. Well done for persevering, you must be very dedicated. I am glad the video helped you out!
MF has a Masters Degree in sketching.
This video is going to be useful to come back once in a while
I agree😊
This is the kind of knowledge I'm in a sore need of. I think I've reached a point where I've developed my eye enough to be more aware of the technical skills/ details present in most pieces of art (pieces that I like or frequently observe, anyway), but I'm still struggling to internalize the skill to produce that kind of art. My other problem is that I still can't quite settle on certain role models (beacons) to follow or try to imitate, but it often happens that the references I follow either have aspects that bore me or are too hard for me to grasp, so sadly that just feeds my lack of consistency in art and wastes time 😅But I guess it's part of the journey.
That's an interesting insight. It sounds like you have a good degree of self-awareness which is a really good thing! I think there is so much good art out there nowadays it can become very overwhelming, and that can cause us to become somewhat paralysed and inactive. I don't know if it would help, but you could always try setting a micro goal - pick something small to try and internalize within 3 to 6 months, and then re-evaluate again.
10:30 really wise words. I felt unmotivated to do art most of the time; something which has been *massively* remedied because i placed a pinterest widget which shows me 3 randomly "picked for you" pieces smack bang in the middle of my phone homepage where i keep all my apps. If i want to open almost anything on my phone; i have to look at inspiring, beautiful art, which i genuinely believe i could reach the level of one day, every single time. Its great.
If you have found what motivates you personally, then that is so awesome! It's such a huge step towards getting the things you want in life. I wish you every good thing in your learning and growth as an artist and know you can hit the levels you want to reach! Thanks for watching 💖
You're at such an incredible place already, your traditional studies are on point but color and shading are definitely something even professionals doubt themselves on. I like to use pre-made or limited palettes and take advantage of layer modes when working digitally to get shades I like :)
Thank you! The world of colour and painting seems so much more complicated than just drawing. Those sound like some good ways to make it easier to play with, so I will try them.
@@10.000hrs Interesting you should say this, because Sycra (look up the name on RUclips) seems to think that as he gets better at drawing-anatomy, construction, shapes, line-work-coloring just naturally improves with it.
@Selrisitai I guess maybe it depends from person to person? I really have never spent much time colouring stuff, so I really am quite new to it, but that kind of 'included benefit' may be something I notice as I develop further. Thanks for sharing!
I have a single senpai image from my 3 favorites
Yoji Shinkawa
Tsutomu nihei
Kim Jung Gi
I don't care about finish, I care about a sketch so good it already is finished, maintaining all the energy of the first loose marks
Ooh, love Yoji Shinkawa! Good picks!
@@10.000hrswhat I love about Yoji is his fluid, liquid lines that on their own look like nothing, but somehow in context suggest a full 3d form.
My impression is that he does loads of preparatory sketching, and iterates on his line choices before proceeding to the finals that we get to see... but that's just my impression
@@nanthilrodriguez Yoji is great at what he does but isn't a great concept artist.
I really appreciate your approach. I tend to think if I have a limitation then it's a shortcoming and in some way a flaw in my own personality, which I know is silly. However, the way you expressed doing something to the best of your current abilities and picking our your limitation as a goal to be specifically worked on somehow made me feel better about my own. I've heard it before from other people, but just the way you said it was helpful. Thank you. I'm looking forward to updates.
You are most welcome. I too find that sometimes having the same information retold by different individuals helps. A lot of self-help books just seem to retell the same advice, but sometimes, the way a particular author says it seems to resonate. I'm glad that I could do that for you. Thanks for your support and good luck with your art!
this video inspired me to study and practice again, i was struggling with motivation for so long so thank you for the video! :'))
No problem, glad it helped! Good luck with your studies.
I'm so interested and excited for the upcoming videos and I love the way you incoprating the science of learning and neuroscience, because that is what i'm trying to do currently with my art journey definitely gonna stick for this ride !
Awesome! I'm glad you find it interesting. Hopefully I can continue to produce content you like. Thanks for your support, and please let me know how things go on your art journey!
dude, your work is so inspiring to me. im rooting for you!
Thank you! I am rooting for you too 💖 let's both try our best! 💪
Good luck to you pal, I enjoyed the video and it takes me back to some of the struggles I've been through too. One big thing that I feel holds a lot of new artists back is limited self belief, i.e., thinking some things are too hard or impossible for them, and setting their goals so low as to never really try to improve.
I don't see this standing in your way and I look forward to seeing how you progress.
Plus I really like your 3 Senpai images idea, I might incorporate that myself soon! cheers!
Thank you very much! That's a great insight. It is very easy to get discouraged, and the progress can be hard to see happening, which is why I like tracking it. Thanks for stopping by, and good luck to you too!
Would you consider doing your digital work in greyscale then applying colour after you've added light shadow highlights?, it might help you transition into coloured pieces easier.
Yes, I have seen this before, and it does seem to be a decent idea. I'm learning to paint traditionally at the same time, though, and find that I personally gravitate more towards a direct colour approach, but I will experiment with both digitally.
I'm about to start my own art journey from scratch and so glad to have discovered your channel! I just took tons of notes on this video alone and I am ready to get started!!
Definitely appreciate the brainstorming of 3 artists I want to be able to replicate in style. My ultimate goal (1st goal technically) is to learn to sketch. I don't care too much about color, value, and things like that but just the bare basics, I want to be able to create a really nice sketch that I'm proud of!
Afterwards, my 2nd goal would be to master watercolor. I've always loved watercolor but every time I pick up a brush, it just looks like a complete mess, extremely discouraged every time but the way I dream of drawing and painting, I know it's possible!
Thank you for explaining the road map and pillars you've created for us art newbies to follow!
That sounds like a great start because you know what you want, you're very focused, and are staring with basic things before getting more complicated!
I wish you the very best of luck for learning! There are times when it can be tough, but keep sight of your goals! I know you can do it! 💪❤️
Thank you for This One!
No problem! Glad you found it useful.
My senpai artists have always been Kim Jung Gi, Bryce Kho, & Akihito Yoshitomi.
The goal to create graphic novels of my stories.
So its rather hard I feel to distill the goal down. If I had to guess, its focusing on drawing from imagination, understanding 3d forms to draw without construction lines, and I really love the brush pen so getting better with that.
Woah! Good choices! Those all sound like good things to aim for.
As a guy learning 3D Animation and modeling on top of illustration, I can definitely say I probably would be a lot better if I only focused on one of those skills. However, the book "Atomic Habits" by James Clear have some very good points like setting up systems to practice and the plateau of latent potential. I've been applying some of that advice to my routines, which have helped a bit. I'll be following this series closely as I too am a very technically oriented person, work smarter not harder is word's to live by.
That's my motto too! I actually use Anki and spaced repetition to learn a bunch of things, just this channel focuses on art because it's already been proven that SR works on things like language learning or learning to code.
I think you can definitely make gains in multiple subjects by doing a little on each per day. I tend to have 1 subject that I emphasise though.
The idea of learning multiple subjects at once is called interleaving and there is some evidence to suggest that it makes you learn FASTER than studying a single subject per session.
Your digital art process is amazing ❤
Thank you. I honestly have no clue what I am doing when working digitally, but have slowly started to learn it.
I love this video! Im also learning art while considering what I know of the science of learning, and I do find it a bit difficult to measure my progress. Your idea of doing a specific subject in a specific tool and limited time is great, im gonna do this as well, thank you!
I have also broken art down to a few aspects that I find are the most important parts to what I want to accomplish.
If your goal is to be able to draw without reference I would recommend learning to construct figures like Michael Hampton for example, or doing a simple mannequin out of cubes and cylinders first to get the feeling of 3d. Michael Hampton has some really good videos on his youtube channel, if you havent seen them.
Good luck on your art journey, im looking forward to see how it goes.
Thank you! I really appreciate your comment. That's a fantastic resource and should prove very useful, thanks so much for sharing it. I wish you all the best, hopefully we can both achieve our art goals ✨️
Very good😊
Fantastic goal setting, thanks for this!
No problem! I enjoyed reading your comments!
You better follow up on your baseline! I want to see the results. I will try this today
I will, but I won't hit 200 hours until later in the year. There will be other experiments coming up in future videos too!
I appreciate the depth and care of thought that went into your approach to learning. I am in a similar position where I've drawn for many years, but never "seriously." I've narrowed my "senpai images" down to a piece by R. Crumb and one from Kim Jung Gi, which has helped to materialize the goal in my mind at least.
Sounds great! It's honestly so much easier to work towards a goal when you have an image you can look at and say 'what am I missing?'
Thank you for your interest and support, and I wish you the very best of luck on your own art learning journey 💞
Youre helping lots of people, thank you!
Thank you for your kind words, my friend. I do hope it helps 💗
Thank you so much for sharing this!
I've wanted to bring the things in my imagination to life for years (I'm Austistic and maybe have ADHD), but I can't focus for the life of me. 😅
I could maybe draw circles and straight lines right now, but I want to reach my 'decade goal' of creating/publishing a graphic novel.
I want to do a version of the 10,000 hour challenge: 10hrs, 50hrs, 100hrs, 200hrs, 1000hrs...
I wonder if form might come before value and color? At least to me.
That's awesome! You should definitely try it, you learn a lot about art and about yourself and how you learn.
The pillars in this video are sort of my best effort to break down artistic skill into it's most general terms, but in reality they are all actually the same thing.
For example, although 'form' might mean drawing in lines, if you are painting, then the values and colours you choose replace the lines to create the form.
No doubt as you start experimenting and playing around, you'll gain your understanding of all this slightly different to mine, and that's part of the fun of this. Everyone learns differently and is unique!
I wish you the very best in achieving your goals, your brain is amazing, and so you already have everything you need make your goals a reality! 💖✨
Very good videos. Do you have an ETA of the next video? And could you share some resources of what you'll be covering, so I could read on my self? I like your approach and I'd like to adjust my training a bit, with information you've provided.
I'm glad you like them. I try to put out a video every 4 weeks or so, depending on what life throws at me. I will include more resources from now on.
The best author I've found on the subject of meta- learning is Barbara Oakley. Any of her books will help you, but most of the advice is geared towards those learning 'mostly declarative' things like languages. Art is 'mostly procedural', which means we need a somewhat different approach.
There isn't a lot out there on art specific procedural stuff, which is why I make my videos, but Tim Ferriss is good. He has a book called The 4 Hour Chef. The first chapters are available for free on his website and will explain a lot.
There are probably resources on RUclips, but I prefer books oddly.
For art specific resources, there are numerous, but some of the best would include:
Drawing - How to Draw by Scott Robertson
Rendering - How to Render by Scott Robertson
Landscapes - anything by Mitchell Albala
Anatomy - Loomis, Bridgeman, Hampton, and the Tom Fox book
Colour - James Gurney, and a really good book called Colour and Light by 3D Total
Hope that helps. If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know.
@@10.000hrs Are you planning on making other projects/paintings/drawings between study sessions or just when trying to see your progress (street fighter & landscape). A lot of people recommend to also draw 'fun' stuff in between practice, but I've noticed that it's mostly for motivation and to not get burned out. What if someone isn't getting burned out from practice, is it better to just focus on that, without the 'fun' stuff?
Those particular baseline studies will only be repeated every 200 hours, but yes, I will create other studies in between to help build up my skills, to learn, and to experiment.
If you feel burned out, you may be doing too much!
The most important thing is that you are having fun, so do whatever it takes to make that happen, even if it means stepping back and taking a week off so you can come back feeling refreshed!
The fun stuff can BE the training, as long as you ensure you are focusing on what you want to improve. You could learn a lot about colour theory by painting pokemon, for example. You would just have to make sure that you are really honing in on the colours the designers used, and thinking about why they work as you study them.
Try to think about what you want to get better at, and what you actually want to draw or paint, and see if you can find a way to intersect them.
Hope that helps.
A similar analogy is that I HATED working out. I don't like gyms, or lifting weights. Then I discovered calisthenics and body weight exercises.
These involve strength training to 'unlock' skills like planches and handstands, and because I was having fun learning that, I got stronger! No gyms, no weights, but the same end result, in a fun way.
I can't believe those teachers had the gall to put you down like that. I often wonder what goes through their minds when doing such a thing
Haha yeah, it was a long time ago now. The annoying thing is I wanted to get better but back then art at high school here in the UK was more about expression than technical skill (possibly still is) and so there were no lessons on how to actually draw or paint!
@@10.000hrs I attribute this to Picasso, and the western obsession with participation trophies... There's objectivity in art, whether politically correct people like it or not.
@DaKussh I think you are right. It definitely seems that before the early 20th century, art was more about impressionism and technical skill. To each their own, though.
The teachers that actually say this stuff are almost as bad those who tell kids they are worthless. It's like kids getting told they can't sing. They never try again or think they suck. Singing is an athletic event as much as an artistic or intellectual one, similar to dance. You literally have to train, but at the same time almost anyone can be taught to carry a tune.
I suppose that's the similarity here, almost anyone can draw, but drawing well is a matter of training.
some things I learned about colors.
Yellows oranges- light tones
reds - around midtones
blues purples greens - dark midtones
use the 1-10 value scale as reference. (1 lightest and 10 as darkest)
for example, a yellow hue would be around 2-3 and blue is around 5-8 assuming they are at full saturation.
hope that makes sense. If not, just take a color wheel and turn it into grayscale youll see what I mean.
😲 interesting! I'm spending some time investigating colour more at the moment and you've taught me something there. Thank you for sharing!
This is a great video. I'd urge you to consider another factor as you apply some science to your learning . Simplification is the key. Complexity is by its very nature hard to understand , there are lots of moving parts and its hard to understand how multiple inputs effect the final result. Ideally we want to isolate each variable and fully understand it before we move onto the next.
So if we want to practice line weight , trace a photo , remove all the other variables and just focus one thing . If you want to practice costume design draw different costumes over the same manikin.
There are a lot of steps to get from nothing to finished artwork. If we always start at the beginning and work to the end , the beginning gets more attention and the end remains weak. Try to find ways to jump in the middle. Draw overs , photography , abstract art , allow you to practice other important skills , and escape the rut of endless figure drawing .
Glad you enjoyed it, those are some fantastic thoughts that I had not considered before. Thank you so much for making me aware of them, I will try and implement them to make things even simpler. Do you know any good resources for learning more about how to think like this?
I’ll be honest, I actually prefer learning complex over simplified, especially since I like to draw cyborgs. That inherent difficulty of figuring out principle of design with human anatomy just strikes a resonant chord with me.
That's really interesting. Learning is such an individual thing. I have read some studies about how pushing yourself to the limits of your comfort zone can be a big benefit to learning. I'd like to make a video on that at some point.
@@10.000hrs simplification, abstraction and emphasis are good techniques to practice in design , composition and figure drawing. Now its on your mind i think you'll begin to see it everywhere. If you watch how Proko places lines you can see that each curve has a kind of smooth precision that doesn't need extra fuss to make it work ruclips.net/video/FyZYTVn0zYU/видео.htmlsi=9UAWeWZiFqF9e1pO&t=341. A friend called it 'economy of line'
@@jamfilledjars I think you misunderstand. Its not about drawing simple things . Its about drawing complex things economically. I really like the way Sparth evokes the feeling of mechanical complexity by using shadows ruclips.net/video/nuJOQ41xzpA/видео.html
Great video ❤
Thank you! Glad you like it, always good to see you here.
Will befollowing. This might be the most useful thing on how to learn to draw and how to plan it. Great Idea.
Thanks! So glad you found it helpful! It helped me a lot.
I would really like to see a sketchbook tour, your drawings are amazing and inspire me as an 12 year old artist. :D
Good luck😊
I will try and do that for you when I reach some milestones. Thank you for your kind words. I started drawing at about 14, so you are already ahead of me when I was your age! Keep at it!
@@10.000hrs thank you!! This comment made my day :)
For the image-related goal, is it recommended to distill it to 3 artist/images or could I have potentially more (e.g. at least 5 artist and, at most, 10)? There's a bunch of artist I like but I wasn't sure if the purpose of distilling it is to better track of what you want your art to be? I assume the picks are just mainly for insperational purposes? I just ask because it's hard for me to distill it to a few artist.
If I had to pick three right now, at gunpoint, they'd be: Yoshituki Sadamoto, Mine Yoshizaki, and Yoji Shinjkawa.
Otherwise, I'd like to spend some time studying other artist and styles like Robert Crumb, art nouveau, Jack Kirby. At least when I get the chance. Most of my focus would be stuff like anatomy, composition, gestures/flow, etc.
You could pick as many as you want! I think 3 is a good number though because it's not too much to get overwhelmed with things you want to work on, and it kind of forces you to consider what is most important to you.
You could always pick 3 or 5 for now, and then review your choices again in maybe 6 or 12 months.
You might even discover new people along the way who inspire you! ❤️ I like your choices though. Yoji Shinkawa is amazing.
Very good😊
Thank you!
Question. How did you learn anatomy? Your anatomy is really good!
Thank you! I am still learning anatomy. Originally from books, mostly by Andrew Loomis and George Bridgeman, but I found all it really did for me was make me good at copying. The Tom Fox book is also very good if you want a place to start.
After that, I started to look at the muscles in the book, and then try to draw figures from a resource like Proko to try and apply the shapes as I drew figures.I would then try and do it without the book.
After that I would draw boxes and forms in perspective and try to place the muscles onto those, which is what has unlocked the 'draw from imagination' skill.
When I draw anatomy now, I am very much thinking in 3 dimensions, not just drawing 2d shapes. I hope to make a video on this stuff in the future.
Hope that helps! It's really about finding what works best for you. I have heard of people who found the best way was to draw from an actual anatomy model or even cadavers!
@@10.000hrs Thankyou! ^^
@10.000hrs Thank you for this videos.
Where do you find so many references to draw? I see that you draw many differente variations of poses, faces, etc.
Well, a lot of them are from imagination, but when I do use reference, I use the timer tool on Proko.
You can purchase photo packs for a relatively cheap price and use the timer tool to randomly study a bunch of them.
Most of my work in the videos so far is me using one of these references, but then I imagine swinging the camera around and drawing it from another viewpoint, from imagination. I believe that is the secret to really understanding the human body in perspective, and thus drawing figures from your head like Kim Jung Gi and Tom Fox.
Thanks for watching the videos, and I hope that helps!
@@10.000hrs Did'nt know about Proko. That makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
I have a question about goal setting. I have always wanted to become a more skilled artist when I was younger and never took the initiative. I have recently started to practice again and want to make an actual effort to improve this time.
I think that setting a goal would be helpful, and am taking the time to write some out, but I feel they may be too broad. I want to have the ability to make realistic art in both traditional (graphite pencil, colored pencil, etc.) and digital mediums. Would an effective way to reach this large goal be to start out with one medium - like graphite and colored pencils, which would probably be a good foundation - and then work from there by adding in different mediums? I know that there isnt really a required starting day for learning art and its possible to start learning different mediums at any time, but I want to spend the time that I have in an effective way so I can achieve the goal that I have.
So essentially, what kind of goal-setting and practice techniques would you recommend for someone who wants to learn various art mediums?
Thanks for your question! You are starting with an end point in mind, which is good. I like having some examples of work I like to aim towards, and compare my work to it infrequently to see what needs doing to push me towards that level, ie better control of edges, stronger understanding of anatomy. That means reviewing your progress.
In my opinion, you should focus on the smallest percentage of things that will return the biggest increase in skill. This means finding the simplest things that make the biggest difference and focusing on those until you get a grasp on them. That would be form and value.
In terms of media, you can play with whatever you want and will need to invest some time in any one choice to gain a technical mastery of it.
More importantly is what core concepts you practice with whatever media you pick.
If you want to draw things you see, like painting accurate portraits or landscapes, look at Bargue drawing. This will get you capturing lines and angles accurately that you can then flesh out.
If you want to draw from your imagination, then you will need to know a lot more about things like perspective. The best resource I have found on this is the book How To Draw by Scott Robertson.
It sounds a bit bizarre, but I would avoid working in colour for a while and focus on value only. This is because colour is not as important in how humans perceive things. In fact, you can use any colour you want, but if the values are poor, the work will never be fixable. There are lots of good resources on working in 3, 5, or 10 values. It's easiest to start with white, black, and 2 equally stepped greys. How to Render by Scott Robertson is a good book, but there are probably a bunch of equally good starter resources out there. Just start with a small amount of values and build up. You will learn how light works in a simplified manner.
Once you understand value and can draw accurately, then you can begin thinking about how colour actually works. This will involve all your value skills and bringing in hue and chroma. That's where I'm at right now. A good book I use is Colour and Light by 3D Total. Also, it has some good value stuff, actually.
I practice for 1 hour a day and work through books. I create challenges from the pages to train specific things. I review my work when done to see what I could improve on next time.
Hopefully, that gives you a bit of a road map. My other videos cover the essential things I train and how I train them using neuroscience techniques to master them quickly if you are interested.
@10.000hrs I appreciate you for taking the time to write such an informative and detailed response. This definitely provides a great roadmap for me to follow as a beginner.
Since I'm just in the early stages of learning after a period of not practicing, my main focus is just building consistency in how often I practice. I get easily demotivated, and that's what has kept me from drawing for so long, so staying accountable and being disciplined is truly my biggest roadblock for success at the moment.
I want to do both realistic art from observation and be able to draw from imagination (anime and manga fan here!) but realistic art is one of my primary goals, and I feel that having a strong foundation in realistic art will help when drawing in stylized art - there's a reason they say that you have to understand the rules before you can break them in art, and I think this is in line with what you've been posting on your channel - all great artists, no matter what subject they focus on or medium they use, have a good foundation in the "skill pillars" as you have defined them.
The tip about abandoning color and focusing on value is definitely helpful and eye-opening for me. I have always enjoyed the use of color in art and want to get skilled at using it, so I was aiming to incorporate them early on in my studies. But you make a great point that understanding color requires us to understand values first, so I will shift my focus to that instead. My colored pencils and pens have been sitting around for a pretty long time now. It won't hurt to wait a bit more before I start to fully use them.
I am extremely thankful that you are sharing your journey of growth as an artist and are providing advice to others as well. I am happy to have found your channel and will definitely be referring back to it as a training resource and to see your personal growth as an artist. I hope that you have a wonderful day/night c:
@JS-rb4kc No problem! Happy to help, good luck on your journey and if there is anything else I can do help please let me know 💖
hey, i just found your channel, really interesting your studies and approach to learn art. What do you think would be the 5 pillars for learning sculpture?
I think they would be similar to painting and drawing in many ways, but I'm not an expert or anything.
Firstly, you would need technical skills with tools and materials. If working in clay and adding material to build forms, you need to get good at manipulating clay and understanding how to work it in a kiln or whatever.
If working subtractively in marble or stone, same deal. You need to get good with your chisels and understand how the material responds.
Digital sculpting means you probably need to know a lot about resolution, topology, preparing files for 3d printing, etc.
I might also include armatures and physics in here so that you can make things that actually function and won't have arms breaking off!
In terms of more artistic pillars, form would still be very important because you would have to be able to recreate realistic volumes. Instead of drawing them in perspective, you would be literally recreating them, with bulges, depressions, and possibly even textures that replicate what you can see or imagine.
More importantly, you are directly dealing with light for real.
What I mean by that is that depending on where the light physically is relative to your work, the way the forms look will change. You would have to consider light direction possibly before starting to ensure that the shadows on the finished form will be where you want them to be in order to create a clear read, and a nice composition of light and shadow in the surface of your work.
It's almost as if some of the pillars I separate for painting and drawing are one and the same for sculpture, at least in my mind.
Another big consideration would be gesture and creating forms that flow together nicely. You would have to consider view angle and make sure that the forms are appealing from multiple directions.
That's all I can think of right now, but one thing that also comes to mind is scale and detail.
If working larger, I imagine people would expect to see some fairly realistic textures and details that might not be possible in a painting of the same scale.
Hope that helps a little. I did study a little sculpture at school, but it was more Barbara Hepworth than Michealangelo!
Thanks for watching the videos. I am glad you got something out of them and are curious about this subject.
@@10.000hrs Thank you very much, it really helps a lot, it gives me more or less ideas of the books I want to look for. Thanks for answering btw
Drawing small is still an issue for me since the only time i really drew growing up was around my notes in class where there wasnt a lot of space
Yeah, it's a tough one. I upscaled to A3 size sketch books to try and not feel so trapped by the edges of the page which I feel helped a lot.
one question, how do i stop art from becoming a negative space? i just feel like i put too much pressure on myself sometimes.
🥲 I feel you. Well, firstly, for me, a huge part was understanding that making mistakes and 'failing' IS the actual learning and getting better part. You don't have to show your studies and experiments to anyone. I share mine here for you all, but they are not what I would probably put in a portfolio. Every drawing page I show is really just a bunch of mistakes! But over time I stop making old mistakes and make new ones. This will always be the case, and so really there's no need to feel pressured. Just allow yourself that freedom.
Secondly, if you have a focus or goal, try to remind yourself of it. For so many of us, drawing is just a fun thing we did to chill out as kids, but as we get older and seek some real skill or professional employment in art, the fun can get sucked out of it. Try to always retain the reason why you fell in love with art if you can. I like looking at the artists I admire, or other artists who are at a similar level to me. Sometimes I just copy anime characters like I did when I was a kid to remind myself how fun it was.
Thirdly, you are absolutely unique in the art world ❤️ my channel exists because I truly believe that every single person has the potential and skill already within them to achieve anything they want in life. Whatever you want from art, or anything else, I promise you is within your grasp. It might take a lot of work though 😅 but you can do it. You'll find your own path unique to you. Sometimes we just need to be reminded of that to get some confidence back 💖
And remember, there is nothing wrong with taking time away from art to come back stronger after a break!
Hope that helps at least a little, and you are welcome to get in touch any time you want to talk! Thanks for watching! ✨️
Nice video! I may not be the target audience (I’ve been a professional artist over a decade, haha) but I’m currently trying to grind out some of my weaknesses and am always trying to find ways to apply meta learning and concepts like deliberate practice to art which, like you point out, can be a lot more slippery and difficult to measure.
I hope it’s not too presumptuous, but after watching this I have a couple tips that might help you a bit.
* Check your work! With digital art this has never been easier, and it helps you stop turning the same mistakes into habits. With stuff like head and anatomy drawings, taking your best shot, overlaying your attempt on the photos, tracing out where things should actually be, and then actually writing down little notes about what you got wrong can make a world of difference. Having some sort of formal construction really helps, finding a centre line, brow line, more specific guidelines like you would with systems like Loomis or Reilly. With digital painting and learning colour, you’ve got the eye dropper tool - don’t use it in the actual study, obviously, but once you’re done? Checking your colours against your target can help you understand your perceptual mistakes. Beginning painters tend to over and under-exaggerate value and saturation especially, and knowing where your instincts go can help you take a second look and compensate.
* It’s never been a better time to understand the techniques of those you admire. A lot of artists - including several Riot artists! - have time lapses of their work up for free on RUclips, or buyable for cheap on places like Gumroad or Cubebrush. Unlike in the pre-internet days (or even the early 2000s when I was first learning) you don’t have to guess at technique, you can see it for yourself. I did have to laugh at the description of a digital painting taking "upwards of 8 hours", a lot of Riot splash art can take easily over 100. I work pretty loose with mostly simple subjects and most of my paintings take 15-30 hours.
* A couple free resources you might like: Ctrl+Paint has a bunch of videos that serve as a pretty comprehensive roadmap to getting into digital painting. The blog Muddy Colors has 10 years of posts by long-time industry professionals full of tips and insight. You might like Tommy Arnold, who has a lot of thoughts on learning and goal-setting, and Greg Manchess, whose Ten Things series has a lot of great tips and interesting thoughts.
Thanks so so so much for your comment and advice. I've written those resources and tips down to implement them. Getting input from those more experienced is hugely valuable to me, and I appreciate you taking the time to share yours.
Thanks for sharing. Nice work.
It seems like your line quality is significantly better in your traditional media work than your digital work.
I noticed this during your Ryu and Chun-li piece and the recap piece. I wonder if this is similar to your gauche comments - more time working digitally would help.
Thank you! Yes, I hadn't drawn in Photoshop for a long time! It's going to take practice for sure.
i thought you'd show us some terrible stuff when you talked about visiting your old sketches but damn those were already pro level in my opinion 😰😰
Haha thanks. I've been drawing for quite a while, but the thing to consider when looking at the old sketches is they were always referenced. Take the references away, and I couldn't draw a human figure 🥲
Now I am drawing more from imagination and I still can't do it that well, but it's exponentially better than it was.
I tend to draw a referenced pose, then imagine a new viewpoint and try to draw it from that angle. It forces you to consider how the object or figure actually works in 3D perspective.
Thanks for watching!
They probably said you were terrible because most high school art, teachers and college art teachers. They absolutely hate anime and comics. If you try to draw that stuff they just sit down on you because they think everything should be studied as realism. And then later and they stylized stuff. Which is not technically true. If u know You're not going to draw realizing you're no point in like studying it for like 10,000 hours
Yes, that is true. A few of the students really only took art to draw anime, and it was forbidden haha. Although I was genuinely terrible at drawing. The annoying thing is they never tried to help me improve, and instead just made me do something else. Art was more about just sort of expressing yourself instead of developing any skill.
@@10.000hrs yeah, most art classes are like that. Even like professional like college courses, they kind of already expect you to know how to draw when you enter art school so they don't really teach you anything. That's why professional artists don't recommend you to go to art school because if you go to a good one, you're spending like over $100,000. It's mostly just for connections. If you go to a good art school You're more likely to get a job at Disney or something. But with art. You just need to have a good portfolio if you want to work in the industry. A lot of artists are self-taught that working gaming
9:23 I think you meant 42% more likely, no 42 times
Also, where does the number 42 shows up in the research? The only thing i found is the 33% difference between group 1 and 5
nice vid btw
Apparently there's a study published in the Journal of Applied Psychology that suggests that writing you goals make you 42% more likely to achieve it. However, i couldn't find this study, nor the name of the authors :(
Haha yeah I meant 42%. The research I looked at was by a guy called Gail Matthews. The actual value range was something like 33-42% and most people cite the higher end of the range when discussing the research because I guess it's more click-baity or something.
Realistically it's probably more the median maybe somewhere around 35%.
Whatever the actual number, there was a clear distinction, and those who set goals were more likely to achieve them, so its probably a worthwhile activity!
Thanks for watching, I am glad you like the video.
@miguelsolar-rl1bc I just looked and the Gail Matthews one was from Dominican University, which I am pretty sure was the one I linked in the video description if I remember.
Not sure about one from the journal, but it's probably out there somewhere.
There is a similar study called the Harvard Study. I believe that was slightly different, and tracked down students 10 years after asking them if they had goals. The % that did were more successful, wealthier etc. There are a few studies out there on goal setting as an approach to achieving... well, goals 😆
Ypu should scan every single page of your sketchbook to see the whole advancement on a book or a pdf that would be extremely awesome as it would be an instant and easy to see gradual advancement of the skill. Exactly as if you filmed every single practice session of an athlete. Pls ar least consider doing something like that
Well I post a video every day as a RUclips short that pretty much does this. It's typically 10-30 minutes of the training that day condensed down to around 10 seconds.
I have kept all the pages but I jump back and forth quite a lot in the sketchbooks I use to go back and fill areas where there is still white space, so the pages don't show a perfect chronological progression hourly, but they will in terms of 100's of hours.
Thanks for the interest though! I will see how I cam best use them to help others as I go 👍
Didn't expect to see my name there. Good video regardless though!
Thanks for your support. I can't thank everyone personally, but I do appreciate every single person who likes and subscribes 🫶
What's the deal with the cats? Some sort of censoring?
Yep. Boobs, and also some personal details like email addresses of people.
I have a feeling you're going to be pretty close to where you want to be in only 1,000 hours.
Haha I hope so! I have a few more experiments planned that will hopefully help...
recording equipment?
I have a HyperX Solocast microphone, and to record the video footage I actually just use my old Samsung A70 phone 😅 I will get a proper camera eventually.
@@10.000hrs thanks, but what's the mount used?
It's by a company called Pozliv, basically a cheap stand from Amazon that clamps to a table and has a halo light on it that plugs into USB.
cute cats, i wonder what secrets they hide🤔
😆 boobs mostly, and people's phone numbers, emails etc
Volume too low. You whisper. I’m nearly deaf
Sorry! I've tried to increase the volume on subsequent videos, and used a more professional software to help the sound quality. I also subtitle all videos now so in the worst case, you can still follow along.
Thanks for the helpful feedback 🙏
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I’m a professional artist. I make my living by selling paintings and painting murals all over the world. However, my work is abstract and (typo)graphic, so my figurative painting and drawing skills have never really developed further than..first year of art school? With an ever looming feeling of imposter syndrome to go along with that.
Decided a few weeks ago that I wanted to fix that. So I’m Very happy to have found your channel. I will be following along! 🫡🤙🏼
Sweet! It's so good to have professionals following along! I love the insight I can gain from more experienced artists and their feedback.
Thanks for your support, and I am glad you find the content useful ❤️
Hey my friend, do you have a social media account or Discord? Would love to follow you if you do. It's kind of hard to share/keep track of one's art journey together on YT.
Hello friend! I actually do not have any social media for this 😅 I don't post my art anywhere else atm but a few people have asked about this, so I will make something at some point and announce it here when I do. Thanks for your interest.