Using Neuroscience to Draw for 10,000 Hours --- 300 hour review

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @GrimwaldsGaming
    @GrimwaldsGaming Месяц назад +105

    My key learnings from you so far:
    1. Mistakes are learning. Embrace the suck.
    2. One perfect study might be luck so do 100+.
    3. Repetition is results from reinforcement. Space it out to destress the suck.

    • @Silver77cyn
      @Silver77cyn Месяц назад +7

      "Embrace the suck." 😏

    • @teaflavouredcoffee83
      @teaflavouredcoffee83 Месяц назад +3

      "Suck the suck."

    • @georgeharriott2995
      @georgeharriott2995 Месяц назад

      Fu#@ the suck 😂😂

    • @GrimwaldsGaming
      @GrimwaldsGaming Месяц назад

      @@teaflavouredcoffee83 You can suck it. I'll just embrace it. 😜

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +6

      That's a pretty good summary! I would add that the 'autopsy' of mistakes and successes helps guide the next attempt, so the suck should be gradually lessening over time, at least in that particular aspect of art.
      But then you find a new part to suck at, and that sucks.

  • @bubsenseijebe2993
    @bubsenseijebe2993 Месяц назад +12

    Dude you are really going to be a great artist. Or whatever you want to pursue. So much intention in your work it's amazing. I need to do what you do.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! I appreciate that! If you can set aside 1 hour a day for some focused and deliberate practice, then it's like a bucket filling up drip by drip. Eventually it overflows! I appreciate you watching and have every faith that you too can achieve whatever goals you have 👍 everything you will ever need is already in between your ears 😊

  • @lenott7480
    @lenott7480 Месяц назад +20

    congratulations on 300h of practice!
    perhaps others already told you so, but you having this channel helps others tremendously - I, for one, have motivation to practice more often just by witnessing your example
    please, keep going
    and may your journey be a joyful and fruitful one

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you friend! Same to you! It's equally motivating to know that it helps people, and I am grateful that others are inspired by the videos. I would be doing this anyway, I originally just decided to record it in case it helped someone haha ❤

  • @danielpatrickrussell
    @danielpatrickrussell Месяц назад +58

    so awesome. Thank you. For the 400 hour update and beyond, could you please turn down the background music behind the commentary by about 10-20%?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +3

      Yep! I have had a few people say the music is distracting and it's actually really hard to get the volume right because it seems to change between the editor, the final video, and the output device people are listening on, so the music might have to go! Appreciate the feedback! 💕

  • @thesword31
    @thesword31 18 дней назад +3

    This is awesome. I 100% encourage people to practice traditionally. There is a lot to be learned with pencil or paint on paper. If digital is the only way, two things I highly suggest to my artists when doing pure practice: Work on one layer to attempt to recreate working on paper. Layers are powerful, but for practice, keep it simple! Second, NO undo when practicing. It can be a crutch and can slow down progress if it becomes such. Learn to be confident in what you lay down and how to manipulate things organically. Great stuff in the video, keep it up!!!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад

      That's great advice! I never really considered it before, but I suppose I don't use the undo tool and just paint as you described because I have worked traditionally. I actually don't find the digital tools that intuitive at all.
      I use a tablet with no screen, and cannot draw lines accurately, so I just lasso shapes in, or hold shift and click everywhere to make the shapes and lines I want 😅 also it's taken me a long time to get to grips with how blending colours works digitally.

  • @ZoneInOn
    @ZoneInOn Месяц назад +9

    Long term subscriber here. I watched one of your first videos about the ethos of neuroscience for drawing and was inspired, I've been drawing consistently for a year, and whilst my approach was quite contrary to yours, I want to thank you for the amazing advice and book recommendations.
    My approach was finding a way to first be consistent, my biggest flaw, as many, is not committing to anything. I decided to instead focus on having fun. Drawing what stands out to me, not worrying about perspective, fundamentals, but instead finding the inspiration to draw every day.
    Around the 1-2 month mark something mentally changed, instead of trying to find inspiration, the habit of drawing had become ingrained in me enough to get to the point where I wanted to draw regularly (albeit not everyday), and the enjoyment came from not the end result, but the process of drawing.
    Instead of worrying about the fundamentals at first, I just drew, and in this first year of consistency I have found massive improvements in my understanding of a lot of things, just from doing. I know I will plateu soon, and this may be the year I begin taking a more structured and focus approached, mixing in concepts of perspective, anatomy and colour theory, especially with form and values. I think my biggest goal is values especially, I can pick any colours, if the values are good I'm a strong believer in the piece looking substantially better.
    Thanks for the great videos :)

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад +2

      Awesome! That is so good to hear! I think the habit of putting in a little work every day is the biggest thing really. That instantly places you in the top 50% of people learning art on the planet, I would imagine. If you can then pick a point to focus on, as you also have, then you make huge gains.
      It seems like you are beginning to spot things you want to further improve on, and so you must be honestly looking at your work and ability, and figuring out what your weaknesses are - another thing that can only benefit you.
      I'm glad the videos help people to discover these things for themselves, and really that's the main thing I hope to inspire in others. Find a way that works for you, ask questions, and just experiment!
      I really appreciate you watching and taking the time to share your thoughts, and I wish you every continuing success in your studies! 💕✨

    • @ZoneInOn
      @ZoneInOn 27 дней назад

      @10.000hrs thanks a lot!

  • @allendawodu
    @allendawodu Месяц назад +4

    I liked what you said about each line dictating the next. It's just like when we talk-sometimes we say the wrong word, but we recover gracefully and are still able to convey our thoughts without appearing as if we blundered our speech.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад +2

      That is a really good analogy! It's exactly like that! It's not something I realised myself, but that's why having others more skilled than me here in the comments section is so useful!
      Our ideas are fluid and adapt as we express ourselves, it seems.

  • @KuroiKenshi6
    @KuroiKenshi6 Месяц назад +3

    Congratulations, keep the hard work! I really appreciate what you do.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. I'll keep trying hard! ❤✨

  • @grenbug
    @grenbug Месяц назад +4

    So cool to watch your progress and work. One of the most valuable things to see is how deliberate your practice is and how you make each hour count. If I doodle for 15 minutes per day, that’s good and better than nothing. But it’s not going to drive my skills forward like an hour of deliberate, targeted practice could. Your dedication is an inspiration! Thanks for sharing your journey with us!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! Anything is better than nothing for sure, but yes I believe that this sort of focused practice is key to improving at anything from ballet to painting portraits. You cannot actually do it for long though! That's why I break it up into 30 minute sessions with a break in between normally. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts ❤

  • @DennisCNolasco
    @DennisCNolasco Месяц назад +13

    Re: KJG, yeah, you're absolutely right! I've seen many interviews of him refuting that he has photographic memory. Don't get me wrong, his memory was great, due to 10s of thousands of hours of doing observational drawing, which in turn made his hand eye coordination and muscle memory second to none. As proof, I've seen him turn to talk to an audience member while he was simultaneously drawing.
    And as you said, he considered the whole piece when he placed the next line. You will notice he draws each line very carefully and slowly--he doesn't draw each line fast at all! That's why his line work is more wobbly compared to a comic book inker. Ever notice how he jumps around from a totally different place on the drawing to way on the other side sometimes? He does this because his line work is the actual perspective grid hidden in the artwork. So if he needs to establish a vanishing point or another axis, he will do that with another image that contains such a point or angle needed. He truly was a genius. RIP Master Kim Jung Gi.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +2

      Oh, I have seen him do that yeah. Makes sense! He was the GOAT. I would love to know if he had lived to like 90 how much more he would have improved, or how his artwork would have changed. He seemed to still be very inquisitive and open to learning new things.

  • @ch3rii_
    @ch3rii_ 17 дней назад +1

    im 17, wanting to go to art school and have been drawing "anime" my whole life. it's finally hit me just how limiting my style is so now im trying to learn from scratch - and its bloody hard!! it's very encouraging to know that you were in a similar situation, watching this video has already given me a bit more hope, I will definitely be checking out your other videos!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад +1

      Thanks friend! To be honest, if you figured this out at 17, I wouldn't worry about too much. By the time you're 20 you'll be better than me 💪 I didn't figure it out until like early 20's, and a while after that I stopped drawing for 10 years. Imagine where I'd be now (I'm in my late 30's) if things had gone differently!
      But I can't get too hung up on the past, and I am enjoying the process of learning, which I think is what motivates me to keep going. It's hard, but rewarding, so try and find a way to make it fun!
      I wish you the very best of luck with your studies ✨💪💖

  • @darianvela
    @darianvela 19 дней назад +1

    My mom and I have recently started watching Peter Han's dynamic sketching and Amy Wynne's portrait figure drawing videos to try to improve our very basic drawing skills. Like most people who copy art here and there we are lacking in the fundamentals. Your method is fascinating (I've done anki for learning mandarin and found it very good for vocab pickup). I have to go back and watch your other videos. I think a lot of your art, even what you aren't happy with, is wonderful and I hope I can get to that point. Looking forward to following the rest or your journey!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад +1

      Thanks friend! I think copying has it's place, and indeed I did get good at copying. But then when I tried to draw stuff from imagination, literally everything went wrong. The drawings were so, so bad, and I was like 'HOW?!' but it makes perfect sense. I could not 'draw' really when working from imagination. I could only map lines and angles on a separate piece of paper from a reference. The ideas I had in my head would not come out unless I went back and learned the basics from scratch.
      The best bit is, the power this gives you to express your own ideas is awesome. Even though mine's not as good as say SixMoreVodka artists, I can sort of do it now! And it's a great feeling! And really it didn't take that long to learn.
      I wish you and your mom all the best with your studies! A lot of people have recommended Peter Han to me, and he sounds like a fantastic teacher. I've been meaning to check him out so I'll do that! 💖

    • @darianvela
      @darianvela 10 дней назад

      @@10.000hrs I love that you were able to build that skill up! I feel like we're taught at a young age that creativity and artistry are basically naturally born talents. It's really encouraging to see people proving that wrong, or at least showing that we all have a potential to build on!
      Thank you, we'll keep learning and I'll be sure to show my mom your channel too!! Let us know if you get the chance to try out Peter Han's methods as well ☺️

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  10 дней назад

      @darianvela Yeah for sure neuroplasticity is very real! You can learn to do anything, natural talent or not. Thanks for the support, I'll try and give some stuff a go over the break for Christmas! 💖

  • @lockm7380
    @lockm7380 Месяц назад +2

    Again, i applaud you for reaching 300h and documenting a lot of it, it's extremely impressive and motivating and the stacks of paper show it. It's making me rethink how i study and wanting to create a more solid routine. You're definitely making progress and i'm blatantly stealing some of the exercises you've shown here and in your shorts!
    While im nowhere near the level i want to be regarding heads, what has been working for me is drawing structurally in big forms like an egg for the cranium and merge it with half cylinder for the rest, not always explicitly drawing it out. And using the idea of the box to find key proportional landmarks in perspective, even if the other ones are obscured, as we are symmetrical. Examples being the corners of the eyesockets, cheekbones, chin, corner of the jaw etc, basically running an imaginary straight line to the other side even if it's obscured. While the surface stays curved. Then i carve into it creating planes. Or add another structure like a spherical form for the tooth area. Not always explicitly drawing out some of the steps but at least thinking about it. In that sense it's not much different than what loomis does in his book as it's all just treating it structurally.
    Other times i draw a box and start extruding out some points sitting on the browridge and centerline, creating some curvature and then building up the cranium, carving planes, it's just connect the dots.
    Not sure if it was KJG, Peter Han or someone else but they showed and mentioned something that always stuck with me, and you mentioned it too somewhat, It's that the first drawn line determines the perspective and relates everything else to it. Leaning more into that idea, while a line might be curved, it still has specific points on it that can be seen as the "front" or "side" if you extrude a straight line from it. So you can draw a curve and still use it as a perspective guideline reliably. Even dots, it's why i find using specifical anatomical landmarks useful.
    Anyway, looking forward to the next hundred hours and videos, keep going!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Haha, please take whatever you want if it helps you learn and grow! I think your remark about drawing the 'unseen' side of the head is probably something I've not touched on that's actually really important for both the curve and box approaches, so thank you for bringing that up. I'm looking forward to trying all these great tips people mention here in the comments! ❤✨

  • @IntoTheStudio
    @IntoTheStudio Месяц назад

    found your channel this week and immediately binge watched all your videos, theres so much to learn from them and is helping me a lot with my journey so thanks so much

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад +1

      Thank you! I am glad you find the videos helpful and appreciate you taking the time to watch them, and share your thoughts 💖

  • @billywalker2542
    @billywalker2542 Месяц назад +1

    Congratulations on hitting the 300 hour mark! I'm always interested to watch your videos - your art is wonderful, and the thoughtful, kind approach to how you work is great to see.
    Another commenter mentioned that you (at least what we see in these videos) don't necessarily engage emotionally or produce work that demonstrates things you like in terms of design or storytelling. Some of your work has a sci-fi touch to it, especially vehicles, and they're some of my favorites. I'd be very interesting in seeing you take some time to expand on that, and draw things that you really enjoy outside of the technical skill aspect.
    Again, love the work, love the videos, and especially I love the passion you so obviously have!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад +1

      Thanks again! It's funny, because a lot of the time when I do have a card that really gets me to draw 'something', I normally end up drawing a robot or something sci-fi, so I must genuinely find that endearing.
      I'll try and draw a much broader range of subjects eventually and hopefully explore more of the things I personally find emotionally engaging when I get to that!
      Thanks again for watching and following along! I am grateful for you being here 💖

  • @FynnGB
    @FynnGB Месяц назад

    Congratulations on hour 300! Really stoked to see your journey and your consistency is quite motivating.
    All the best to the next 100 hours!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks friend! It's kind of you to take the time to comment ❤ I'll keep playing around and exploring and share where it leads!

  • @DennisCNolasco
    @DennisCNolasco Месяц назад +2

    Congratulations my man! It's so satisfying to see your progress. Whenever I watch these kind of videos, I always see comments that say they aren't making any progress (compared to whoever posted the video, like the Pewdiepie one). Then they throw in all kinds of excuses like being untalented, don't have the time to dedicate each day, or no money. It's so sad because really, they are just excuses and not willing to either buckle down and just get after it, or even more, just enjoy the process of making art and not compare yourself to others.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thanks Dennis! It's always good to hear from you! I agree, if you want to get something bad enough, you simply find a way. It can be tough to see others improve faster, but any improvement you make is progress!
      A large part of what I am trying to do is find the 'best way' to improve, but even using science to try and objectively find such a way, you can see the improvement in ability still takes time.
      There is no overnight progression hack, even using neuroscience.
      The best way is truly just constant forward pressure towards your goals, as you say and do ❤

  • @katm8128
    @katm8128 10 дней назад

    Always look forward to seeing you upload

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  8 дней назад

      Thanks my friend! I appreciate you watching 💖

  • @darkcryz8236
    @darkcryz8236 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for posting this, it really helps my journey in art. It keeps me motivated knowing that my art can improve by practicing and learning. Keep posting!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад

      Thank you! I'm glad they help! If you keep going, you will definitely improve regardless. If you can focus and undertake deliberate practice to move towards improving a specific thing, then that makes it faster! Let's both keep trying our best! ✨❤

  • @VesperAU
    @VesperAU 24 дня назад

    Ahh i missed the 300 hr short. Congratulations man great work on the consistency

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      Thank you! 💖I think it's a habit now, so I would feel weird if I did NOT draw for 1 hour a day!

  • @kellydegerdon1083
    @kellydegerdon1083 Месяц назад

    Glad I found my way back for this update, I enjoy your videos a lot. Commenting so hopefully youtube will recommend the next one

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад

      Thank you! I'm grateful for your support. Interestingly PewDiePie made a video about drawing for 1 year, and it seems to have made videos like mine pop up a lot more in other people's feeds, so could even be something do with that!

  • @XxXfoxspiritXxX
    @XxXfoxspiritXxX 3 дня назад

    Loving these videos :) I do wonder if you ever take the time to make personal art (draw/paint things/ideas you want just because they are fun or you are passionate about it) or invest time into making more finished pieces that take longer. I found that during those pieces is where the material I study clicks into place and starts to make sense, it also trains your designing muscles as well. I would love to see more art from you that is not only bulk studies but also more adventurious personal pieces, I think you do already have a lot of skill to make that happen (even if you said that your hit rate for pieces you are proud of is low haha).

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  3 дня назад +1

      Thank you! I currently am deliberately limiting myself to only producing longer finished pieces once every 200 hours to try and see the effects the more fundamental practice has, as part of this experiment.
      After a while of doing this, I intend to try and do as you have described, producing them regularly, and I actually think that it will prove to be the better choice. A lot of people comment that it's a very helpful thing to be doing, so it's nice to see someone else confirm this as well!
      Thanks so much for watching, I really appreciate your support and sharing your advice with me! ✨💖

  • @CrunchyDiopter
    @CrunchyDiopter 22 дня назад +2

    Not sure if this will help you but I work as a chief lighting technician on movies so one could say I’m a professional moth.
    It’s easy for me to say this because it’s my job to educate myself on the subject, however, training yourself to see light is in it of itself a skill. “How do I learn it?” If you’re doing nothing, stare at the light/ shadows cast by the sun or artificial fixtures.
    Is the light hard or soft? How do I know what hard or soft light is?
    Is it warm or cool?
    What’s the lights intensity?
    What angle is the light coming from?
    What direction is it pointing?
    If it’s not cool white (5600 kelvin) or warm white (3200 kelvin) is it a colored light?
    Just sitting in a public place and asking yourself this question will help. However my university was my kitchen window. Returning to the same place does wonders for noticing the smaller details. Observe at different times of day over the course of the year and see how light changes at increasingly longer intervals and seasons.

    • @CrunchyDiopter
      @CrunchyDiopter 22 дня назад +1

      Also, grab a spare bulb(preferably unfrosted), buy a wired-up socket kit, and just play with it. Grab a cup or any object that you can move the light around. Then grab something like a paper towel or paper to see how this modifies the light (do shadows get harder or softer?)

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  21 день назад

      Wow that's such a good idea! I will definitely give this a go. It's funny how I never considered just wiring up or even buying a light just for this!
      I can tell you've clearly thought A LOT about light, so thanks for sharing your knowledge with me. There is actually a book called I think 'Light for Visual Artists' by Yot that I was going to work through at some point. A lot of painters books do not talk about light in super technical terms as a technician would, but for me that sort of understanding really helps a lot.

  • @lisahu6360
    @lisahu6360 Месяц назад

    One of the most informative art videos ever, amazing 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      Thanks! Glad you found it useful! ❤

  • @TaylorLosch
    @TaylorLosch 23 дня назад

    Such a great video as always man

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  21 день назад

      Thanks! I appreciate that! 💫💕

  • @aspinrecordkeeper870
    @aspinrecordkeeper870 26 дней назад

    This channel represents every single cognition of my morbid curiosity. Thank you so much for doing this

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      Glad you enjoy the videos! I appreciate you watching! 💖✨

  • @dodopal66
    @dodopal66 Месяц назад +1

    Ive never heard of the 50% rule ! Your videos are so valauble i dont think ive heard anything new from youtube tutorials for years! I really wanna play around with rendering now.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thanks! I can't take credit for it, I literally learned it from a Scott Robertson book, but the bigger reason behind it which I did not touch on here is that it models the exponential falloff of light.
      Value scales are not actually linear (10/20/30 etc) so when we make a 10 step linear value scale, it's actually wrong 😅 it should be exponential (100/50/25 etc) and then you find the midpoints between those values, and those values, always taking the 50% mark to make your 10 step scale.
      There are few other things to prevent over-rendering like value groups and exposing for one value range which I might touch on next time as I am just beginning to play with those now.

  • @mildhotpeppers
    @mildhotpeppers Месяц назад +1

    Been waiting for this update! Lets gooo

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching and following along! ❤✨😊

  • @JH-pe3ro
    @JH-pe3ro Месяц назад +5

    Regarding drawing and painting as decision-making - you might be interested in a detour into landscapes. Landscapes present a problem that can feel overwhelming from the lens of constructive form; while you can draw them in a technically accurate way, the approach that more people find suitable is to apply texture and value shapes to indicate the features of the landscape without following exact proportions, which exercises a different observational skillset.
    I've been working through studies from Jack Hamm "Landscapes and Seascapes" and he has a great sense of how to introduce abstraction and stylization into simple graphite or ink sketches. As a result, when I return to characters I notice that I am making landscape rendering decisions, where it doesn't particularly matter if I use the real form if I make the composition pleasant.

  • @NexyiaArt
    @NexyiaArt Месяц назад +3

    One thing I've realised about learning colour is the value of practicing it from life rather than from photograph.
    You can do this digitally too with a portable tablet like an intuos and a laptop.
    And I definitely agree with you that practicing with paint has more benefit for learning than digital when it comes to colour, especially because of restrictions! You're able to work on what you need to without overloading your brain with too much to think about, getting difficulty just right.
    About the Loomis head, I have a combination method of the box and the loomis method.
    It's about using the outer circle and inner oval, and thinking about
    - How the oval moves, (It appears to get wider or thinner as the head is turning, although whats really happening is the circle stays the same size, it just turns away from us. It just makes it easier to visualise while you're sketching to think of it as stretching.
    - How the height of the oval on the head determines camera height. (Or height of the character)
    - How the tilt of the brow line determines the direction the viewer is looking.
    - visualising the planes of the face by drawing a box
    I've found that by using this as a system, and remembering it, you don't need to worry /too/ much about perspective. Until you get to extreme close ups or head tilts, usually I find it easy to estimate this!
    Thinking about the head (except the jaw) in three shapes, a ball, an oval and an enclosing box, helps massively for the curvature of the head, as well as perspective.
    One thing I'd recommend is drawing over a ball, or cutting the sides off of an apple.
    I detach the jaw from this because it makes it much easier to understand visually. Adding the jaw after the fact then becomes easier.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thanks! Those are some really awesome tips! I have some little wooden primitive forms I paint from life sometimes but I haven't tried anything like a landscape on location yet 😅 I will at some point.
      That's actually a really cool way to think about the head. I will definitely try it. I like how you talk about using circles/ ellipses to position it. I think there definitely has to be consideration of curvature and perspective to build something that feels realistic and three-dimensional and your approach sounds like it accounts for this really well.
      Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! 💖✨

  • @Deedeedoodad
    @Deedeedoodad Месяц назад +2

    8:04 personally I feel like digital helped me understand certain things about color and lighting that I didn’t learn traditionally because I didn’t have to worry about the unpredictability of traditional paints. I already didn’t have a good grasp on values and lighting at the time but on top of that I didn’t realize how much my paints shifted once they dried and how much the value changed and so I had many failed paintings (especially in gouache) because my values were shifting as the paint dried and I thought I was crazy 😂 but I think they’re both equally valuable because lord knows I’m too slow to bust out a palette and paintbrush to draw from life while waiting at the dentist’s office! In my opinion the best thing to do is practice them simultaneously because traditional = more harmonious colors and digital = convenience/speed. I’ve learned from both!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      That's some awesome advice! Haha I still haven't tried painting on location yet. Some day! I am finding that a lot of the ideas that I might 'learn digitally' I now want to test in traditional media and vice-versa. Thanks for sharing your experience, and I appreciate you watching! ✨

    • @Thegaydisaster
      @Thegaydisaster Месяц назад

      @@10.000hrs I feel that digital art is more correlated with the physical aspect of colour (understanding it with a bidirectional scattering distribution function) [especially working as a technical artist in Houdini] where you learn colour gamuts/colour spaces / how light effects objects ,, and traditional/ analog media is useful for the graphical aspect of colour (as noted in the video) due to the quantized nature of only having a handful of pigments which teaches you how to build a cohesive palette and the relationships between colours

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  28 дней назад +1

      That would probably be an interesting thing to play around with. It's definitely worth studying the technical aspects of light and colour!

  • @fislysandi
    @fislysandi 17 дней назад

    thank you for making this channel and these videos, im trying to implement the anki learning method that you do to make learning art as efficient as possible,
    currently im figuring out on how you do it because its not quite clear on what you do with your anki cards and how you make a certain declarative concept/study into an anki card,
    i sat down through 2 videos and i stil justl dont quite get it...
    or get it ? idk
    i made an anki card tamplate in obsidian , and will just slowly figure out on how this approach works and made 4 anki cards , and i think this number will just get bigger and bigger as the time goes on...
    anyways congrats on reaching 300 hours!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад

      Thanks for your kind words!
      I'll try and help you if I can here! So, firstly Anki itself is just a scheduler. It tells me what to work on by showing me a card or cards for the day, and I try to make each card deal with one idea.
      You do not NEED to use it to make the notes, it just shows me when to study. You could work on a schedule of your own design, or spend a week on a concept and then switch. The convenience with Anki is I can also take notes on the cards, but other tools like Obsidian allow you to do this too.
      You will probably end up creating your own variation on these ideas that works for you and that's great!
      The cards I created are all made from scanned art book pages, and generally in art books each page or few pages contains a single thing to play with, or concept, and that's what makes a single card.
      So Tom Fox's book literally has a double page spread dedicated to the shape of the zygomatic arch, and then the next spread deals with that again, and then the next spread is about the upper jaw bone. I might make one card about each body part.
      Some books are written really well and they literally say 'if you want to get better at this idea - do this' that's the easiest way to make the challenge for each card.
      But examples like the upper jaw bone one... well, there is no specific exercise mentioned, so I have to think of what the author should really have included as one. Makes sense to draw the upper jaw bone, considering the points he is making, so I do that. I might choose to work from reference some days and from imagination on others once I have a bit of experience with the card.
      I would read the card/ book page, then draw while try to cover everything it says. Sometimes this is easy right off the bat, but often I struggle. And the drawings suck.
      Let's say my jawbones look nothing like his.
      I would then document this, and think 'why do mine suck?' And it might be that I didn't get the proportions quite right, or the lineweight, or maybe I misinterpreted some of the information. No problem, I make a note to remember that next time.
      Over time these notes build a sort of checklist of things I am learning the hard way, and that's what the note taking is for. You will not forget these points!
      Cards on a much broader concept like 'texture while painting with gouache' would theoretically have waaaay more notes because it's such a more general subject. Any questions you get when working should also be written down, because you can try and answer these at some point by spending a session experimenting.
      'Would the texture be easier to paint with natural bristles?' I can get some and try it out next time, and document what I find.
      So each card is like an ongoing documented experiment into a subject that gets updated a little more each time with your own findings. Each card dealing with a little slice of artistic principle.
      Eventually you might get to the point where you don't need to make notes on it, or maybe the idea is so simple that you never need to to begin with. Like drawing squares. It just literally a physical exercise. That's fine too, you use that session to just get some more practice in, just like working on your golf swing.
      I'm going to try and record my actual study sessions once a week from January to share what they look like, how I might ask questions and answer them, and also treat them as specific exercises that you can try, so if you still feel a little lost maybe they will help you further, but if there's anything else you want to know please just ask! I don't mind! 💖👍✨️

  • @Centinym
    @Centinym Месяц назад +3

    Don't know if this will help you at all, but I've been practicing art by drawing people on the street corner every friday-saturday. Due to the party environment, I have to draw fast. That means I don't have time to construct as drunk people are impatient - I have to jump straight into the silhouette. I think it has improved my art, but I have a long way to go.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад

      I would love to try something like this eventually. I have some experiments planned around drawing from observation that I'll hopefully get around to filming sometime in 2025, but it sounds really good!
      I think that in general placing constraints on yourself are a great way to play with the cognitive load aspect I discuss in this video. The one you have chosen (to work fast and capture the figures quickly) is a hard one! That means you are growing when you do this, because you body and brain are being forced to find a way to get that good result under pressure.
      It does take a while, but it's a great way to learn!! Thanks for sharing! ❤

  • @michealokeefe2221
    @michealokeefe2221 Месяц назад +1

    Have you ever considered looking at the Frank Reilly method of drawing the head? The basic principles explore relationships between different features of the head. I've had the most success with this, but it does seem to be the most time consuming to learn and master.
    Loomis is great for a basic understanding of proportion, and with a good understanding of perspective is another favourite, but I love the Fox method you've shown here too.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад

      I have not checked that out, no, but thanks for making me aware of it! I will definitely look into it and try and bring it into circulation to see what it does! ❤

  • @dee6561
    @dee6561 Месяц назад +3

    "Making mistakes is learning. Period."

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Yep. Never fear making them, they are helping you!

  • @godluck3996
    @godluck3996 29 дней назад

    Oh my god the art is starting to look good

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад +1

      Thanks! It's a long road, but it can only eventually improve if effort is applied 💪

  • @maplinxxgd5234
    @maplinxxgd5234 17 дней назад

    great progress!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад

      Thanks again my friend! 💕

  • @sqwirry_5655
    @sqwirry_5655 Месяц назад +2

    Hello! Thank you for a new insight on your artistic journey. I'm a big fan of learning especially when it comes to art and I've been picking a lot from your videos. As in, I now, too, extensively study Tom Foxes book page by page and really interiorizing this stuff.
    Curiously enough, when you were asking in the video if there are any approaches to introduce the curvature to the box method< I remembered one method which does it quite literally - by starting the head construction from a cylinder! I was trying to find the precise scheme but either it's a very uncommon method or it was just one artist using it - to no avail. I understand the trickiness of such approach, though - as different areas of the head (e.g. forehead, brow, jaw) curve at different slopes - which Tom Fox shows, too - one wouldn't be able to hit them all with one cylinder. So it's probably safer to start with the box anyway and carve them out with the knowledge of which of the curves is the steepest.
    Apart from that I was curious if you're planning to expand your library of the books you base your cards on? Cause I remember my peers and I growing up on Gottfried Bammes anatomy book (maybe, he's just more popular in Eastern Europe regions, haha) but he provides some really good schemes that, while added on top of Tom Foxes structure, can enhance the understanding of these forms in space! Also Bammes provided a number of drawing exercises he practised with his own students with different types of materials to really solidify one's knowledge of the figure (ink, graphite stamps, even cut outs), so I thought you might be interested in them, too. I believe these books can be found online, as they're quite old, and I cannot say if they were translated in English fully (the original is in German), but for me he became practically the first association to learning the human (and animal) anatomy.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +2

      Awesome! I'm glad to hear it! I find the Tom Fox approaches really resonate with me.
      I have not heard of using a cylinder before, but I did actually give this a go today after you mentioning it, and I think it's actually pretty useful. I ended up just drawing half a cylinder to help establish a general curvature for the front of the skull.
      I also ended up drawing angled semi-circles at different points to represent the brow line and other key lines. It's definitely useful for considering how the curvature relates to the box volume.
      If you imagine 'carving' the box into a face, you actually have to remove quite a lot of material, so turning the front part into a cylinder is quite a fast way to handle that in one go and set a baseline for the curvature.
      I have not heard of Bammes before, but I do want to add some more books to the system next year at some point, because people like yourself have so kindly recommended new material to me!
      Thanks for sharing everything, it's extremely helpful to me and the other people who read this! 💖

  • @vd8589
    @vd8589 Месяц назад

    Damn...I learned so many things today that I never even thought to notice before ... thank you!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад +1

      Thank you! A lot of it is just stuff I get from the art books I am studying, but by really undertaking the effort to question and understand those principles, you go down the rabbit hole for each one, and eventually end up able to really appreciate them, and seeing how they are interrelated.
      Thanks for watching! 💖

    • @vd8589
      @vd8589 27 дней назад

      @@10.000hrs all I got is you have dedication...and you provide the stuff that you learn to the people who haven't....respect 🫡

  • @SGreen22
    @SGreen22 29 дней назад

    Love your channel so much. Went through all your videos when I discovered you. I have been a long time user of spaced repetition and anki, but I never thought about using it for something like art skills!!! After only 10 hours of practice, I can see the benefits and I really like this approach. I wonder, maybe I missed or forgot you talking about it, but what's your theory or thoughts on how beneficial it would be to study for more than 1 hour a day?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      Thanks! I'm grateful to have viewers like yourself here, because you fall into the niche of people who are experienced with SRS, but not for art, as you say, so you can offer a valuable insight into whether this learning framework can be successfully adapted to learning procedural skills!
      There is no harm in studying for longer than 1 hour a day, as long as you take regular breaks. 30 minutes is the max I will train for, then take a 10 minute break.
      I have yet to make the video on this, but the reason is to do with myelination, and how the brain actually forms the connections we use when performing a skill. It's not a perfect comparison, but spamming the brain for 8 hours straight is like spamming bicep curls for 8 hours. You just won't grow.
      Little and often works better, with rest in between. There are other important factors that affect this like sleep quality, quantity, and timing in proximity to the learning activity, caloric intake, and even cardiovascular activity, believe it or not!
      It's quite a complex field, and I am only really speaking anecdotally, but in the meantime, books by people like Barbara Oakley touch on the subject if you would like to learn more.
      Thanks for watching! 💖✨

  • @Zefir353
    @Zefir353 Месяц назад +1

    To get more texture you need natural bristle brushes.
    Synthetic bristle brushes will create way smoother effect.
    You can also use synthetic for most of painting and then switching to natural one in last phase of painting to put texture toughtfully

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Oh, that's not something I have tried yet! I only have synthetic brushes atm, but I'll get some natural ones and give that a try! I like the idea of switching brushes too!
      Haha the best ideas are always the simplest! Thanks for sharing this! ✨💖

  • @Alkaide
    @Alkaide 29 дней назад

    Inspirational work!

  • @booleah6357
    @booleah6357 Месяц назад

    Your improvement is very impressive. For color especially on a single layer you may want to look into the alla prima technique. It is tricky at first but when you learn it it speeds you up massively. Also for the form drawing technique its much easier in painting or digital as you have wider brushes to just lay the base for the forms. That said you can copy it a bit with a pencil by ignoring lines altogether and just draw with values.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      It sounds hard, but seems like it would be a perfect thing to bring into the mix! I'll definitely try it! I can see how it would be a big help in forcing me to sort of one-shot the planes on the subject.
      Thanks for sharing! That's a really useful tip! 💖

    • @booleah6357
      @booleah6357 Месяц назад

      @10.000hrs It is fairly tricky at the start but a lot faster in the long run.

  • @Lxgisya
    @Lxgisya Месяц назад

    Was waiting for this one

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Sorry they take so long to make 😅 thanks for your patience and taking the time to watch!

  • @benyamamare6505
    @benyamamare6505 22 дня назад

    thank you for this

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  21 день назад

      No problem, glad you found it helpful. I appreciate you watching 💕

  • @uraveragejoe3883
    @uraveragejoe3883 9 дней назад

    Would you recommend switching between different books while studying? If so would it weekly or daily basis? Or finish one book at a time?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  8 дней назад +1

      I think you can do whatever you want! I think focusing on one thing is probably more efficient, but there is a concept called interleaving, which means jumping between different concepts and mixing them up, and there is potentially some evidence to suggest this is better.
      I think the reason is that the brain becomes forced to find associations between the different areas and this reinforces them all and diversifies your skill.
      I've been playing with that, and it certainly hasn't seemed to have any negative effects, but I'm not sure its more efficient that working on a single idea.
      All art books essentially say the same information in different ways, and so they could be thought of as one giant encyclopedia of information. As such, I think working on the same idea across several books is a very good approach.
      My best advice is to play with it and if things seem overwhelming, simplify it by focusing on fewer things 👍💖

  • @ben-od7jn
    @ben-od7jn 27 дней назад +1

    That's interesting you thought Kim Jung Gi had an image in his head already and was just putting it on paper. To add to what you said about how he draws it seems like each line helps solidify the form and perspective so he can either build upon or reference them. I've even noticed he makes longer lines or dots/marks further out occasionally as a reference point, I would assume mostly for proportion and/or perspective.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      I really did, at least to a degree. I think a lot of people would assume this especially if they do not know a lot about drawing.
      The more I think about it the other way though, the more I can spot stuff like you mention and see that really he's building things up very gradually.
      It's a really fascinating process to think about, because it's really asking the question 'how do we get images out of our heads, and into the real world?' - and that it is the real power of drawing from imagination.

  • @bubsenseijebe2993
    @bubsenseijebe2993 Месяц назад +2

    Hi question, you say you draw for 1 hour a day but does that include you reading these art books? Or is it reading the art books outside of your one hour a day? and One hour just for drawing/painting?

    • @te6739
      @te6739 Месяц назад

      He pre makes the cards and uploads them to anki, making flags card that he rotates through for each hour so basically when he sits down to paint he just has to read that days flash card

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Pretty much what the kind commenter replying said.
      The book pages are flash cards now, and each page acts like a digital journal page dedicated to that idea. Reading this page and my notes might take 5 minutes.
      This means whenever I see a card, I can continue where I left off or run a new experiment, ask a new question, try a new thing, and then record the results and what worked and what did not on the card itself.
      I do 30 minutes, then take a 10 minute break and then do another 30 minutes.
      I would like to make a bit more time to do some longer studies, but at the moment part of the experiment is deliberately abstaining from this, and only doing a longer piece every 200 hours to see how the skill improves, if at all.

    • @bubsenseijebe2993
      @bubsenseijebe2993 Месяц назад

      @@10.000hrs I love how calculated you are with your practice. Drawing really is experimenting what clicks with you. Then doing it again once you update your process. I need to structure my practice like that. Because sometimes I'm like that, and other time I take breaks and forget my process

  • @oscarthebarbarian9673
    @oscarthebarbarian9673 Месяц назад

    Awesome video!!!

  • @ceton1843
    @ceton1843 Месяц назад +1

    On drawing a sillhoutte and pre visualizing: while i am by no means a professional artist i want to say i made a lot of progress in that regard and have found myself comfortable drawing single characters (not full scenes only single subjects) in a satisfying manner lol. anyways i think it has A LOT to do with mileage. i want to say that there many things i feel like i havent changed up drastically over the years but the execution is so much different. sure rn i can explain and talk a lot more about arms for example but my rough idea of how to draw one isnt that much different than before. i think only by mileage you can gain a certain nuance in execution, mainly influenced by your subconcious. the more mileage the more comfort in your subject and the easier it becomes to " feel out" the shape and see it before actually drawing it. also there are definetly limits, i have found that my imagination and the figure "i see" arent always right. for example i imagine smth where i see y and x and when it comes to drawing it , y and x turn out to be things that just cant be logically combined in one drawing, usually its a perspective error. i think its important that when we talk about drawing from imagination to keep in mind that our imagination isnt as clear as we think and is very fallible. so there tend to be times where im drawing smth and will have to adjust to the existing lines, like you said. mostly i do think it is about just simply having drawn something so much with and without refrence that you hardly need any guide lines bc most shapes become instinctual. also i think the observation skill plays a big part in it bc it makes you more perceptive. when you observe a subject and break it down into simple shapes, you dont actually see the simple shapes, right? when it comes to drawing you can kinda apply this in reverse i think ? using what youve already put down and see the construction and predict the rest of it? i hope some of my rambling made sense to you and if you want you can ask me more question via discord , my username is dinaa5867. ill try my best to answer them

    • @ceton1843
      @ceton1843 Месяц назад

      i also think that reagrding your rendering, the weak point isnt ultimately youre rendering and understanding of color and light but rather your shape design and brush work? if the drawing you made of the two fighting game (?) characters had better brushwork and some more pleasing shapes mixed in it could look pretty nice.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад

      This is amazing, it's exactly the sort of insight I love reading, so thank you so much for sharing it! Everything you said makes a lot of sense, and seems to mirror what I am discovering at this lesser level, but being confirmed from a more developed standpoint, which is really interesting to read about.
      It genuinely does seem that at least for most people, there is no 'photographic' imagination, and that as you have suggested drawing in silhouettes may even be down to muscle memory, or an understanding of shapes that becomes instinctual. We might have to develop the specific from the vague, instead of jumping straight into the specific.
      This would explain why I can draw boxes and cylinders in silhouette, but not people made of boxes and cylinders in silhouette so easily.
      It's really fascinating to play with how this ability is developing in real time, so I'll definitely bear in mind the points you have raised and see if I also encounter them as I develop. Thanks again! ✨💕

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад

      I also appreciate you spotting this. I am juuuust starting to play with shapes, so it should be something I can try out when I repaint things again at hour 400!

  • @noman8189
    @noman8189 29 дней назад

    I have a question when you work on a concept, do you practice using the example of the page or others?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад

      Depends! For things like anatomy, I find it's useful to have the example on the page up, but I rarely draw from it.
      Instead, I would head to somewhere like Proko, and use their Timer tool to load up a photo pack I have purchased from them, and use that as a reference, and try to apply the principles on the page, to that image.
      More recently, to make that even harder, I try and draw that reference from another camera angle, from imagination. This means I can use the reference as a guide for things like angles, but have to say 80-90% of the drawing from imagination.
      I also work purely from imagination, but I find that a lot harder, and tend to keep the forms very simple.
      For paintings, some of the books have a step by step example, and in the beginning I may follow exactly that, but similarly I will quickly move beyond that and try to apply the principle to something more difficult photo reference or something.
      I am constantly finding ways to make the challenge the concept presents more difficult over time.
      Hopefully that helps, but if it's still not clear, please let me know and I'll try and elaborate further!

  • @MyTrommer
    @MyTrommer Месяц назад

    I'm sorry if this has already been answered, but do you draw/paint (not practice) outside this challenge? Thanks!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад +1

      Not at the moment, no. I only do 1 hour a day based on what the cards tell me to do. I do think I would benefit more if I could do a little more per day, but it's not really possible at the moment. Also, I quite like the idea of doing just 1 hour a day for an initial chunk of time, and then committing more hours per day to see what difference that makes.
      It also means that everything up until this point demonstrates what just 1 hour a day can help you achieve, for people who are beginners and worry they cannot commit to more than this themselves.

    • @MyTrommer
      @MyTrommer 28 дней назад

      @@10.000hrs Thanks for the honest answer! Your progress inspired me to start my own 10k art journey.

  • @stygiantint
    @stygiantint Месяц назад

    I explore a lot in drawing including structures and insects that might possibly be included on backgrounds depending on the scenes, this is a nice video anyway🍻👍👍

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад +1

      A few people have suggested drawing insects actually. I think it's covered in the Draw-A-Box course. I have something planned for next year which might be a good fit for trying this out.

  • @glimmer8965
    @glimmer8965 Месяц назад

    thank you

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      You're welcome friend! Thanks for watching!

  • @HoneyBonesArt
    @HoneyBonesArt 4 дня назад

    One tip for color value, for more realistic colors don't mix in black as it will muddy the color.

    • @HoneyBonesArt
      @HoneyBonesArt 4 дня назад

      nvm, one more. decision making is the perfect explanation. i haven't ever been able to put it so concisely

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  3 дня назад

      Thanks for your advice! I actually didn't know that, so it's something I'll bear in mind!

  • @Jacob-mh3rp
    @Jacob-mh3rp Месяц назад +1

    Honestly brother I think you would benefit from doing some traditional figure drawings in pencil/from life and doing some more finished portraits in graphite or charcoal. I enjoy doing ink drawings and drawings from imagination, but I need those rendered/longer studies to help bring the ink and imagination drawings forward.
    You’ve developed some interesting skills with your method of study, but I think you’re going to start getting diminishing returns without doing more finished/rendered out drawings of figures and portraits. Figures and portraits are the most complex forms you could try to render, so you will learn a lot trying to accurately render them, and over time you will learn shortcuts to rendering them and those shortcuts often become a person’s style. All of the artists you mentioned in this video almost definitely went through a long stage of traditional learning, and then what you picked up from them were their shortcuts, you see?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      Ah, I see! That's a really valid point and I'm grateful for you pointing it out.
      I'll try and bring in some more portrait and figure stuff because I might try a more finished portrait around the 400 hour mark.
      Part of the experiment currently is only producing more finished work (longer than 1 hour) every 200 hours to see the improvement that only shorter study times can incur on finished work, but I do agree that producing more finished works on a regular basis is an important factor, and I will eventually bring this in!
      Thanks for watching and sharing your excellent advice! I will try and give this a go! 💖

  • @DerrysonArt-pz4dr
    @DerrysonArt-pz4dr 8 дней назад

    Watched through the videos, all of them are great! You should consider opening up a discord server at some point! looking forward to future videos

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  6 дней назад

      discord.gg/ZjHVVga5
      Haha, I wanted to reply to this yesterday because I literally launched one. If you feel like joining, that's the link, but no problem if not 💖 I appreciate all your support!

    • @DerrysonArt-pz4dr
      @DerrysonArt-pz4dr 5 дней назад

      @@10.000hrs No problem, I'll definitely join. Keep up the great work and thanks for providing us with motivation and a place to talk!

  • @OohsAndAhsBros
    @OohsAndAhsBros 16 дней назад

    How much time do you spend drawing daily?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад

      At the moment, just 1 hour. I do 30 minutes, take a 10 minute break, and then do another 30 minutes. I have some time off over Christmas and want to draw for more than 1 hour a day if I can! I personally feel I would probably develop faster if I did more that 1 hour a day but gains can be made with just 1 hour 💪

  • @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003
    @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003 Месяц назад +1

    Nice! only 25 years to go...

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      💀 yeah I really need to try and do more than 1 hour a day at some point haha. For now though, it's interesting to see what can be achieved within just that small training window per day.

    • @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003
      @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003 Месяц назад

      @@10.000hrs Depends really, if it's a live long thing, maybe taking your time is the fastest way forward. I wish I was doing 1 hour a day, do you have any tips on discipline/consistency, you seem to be good at that?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  28 дней назад

      Its going to take a long time either way I guess 🥲
      I use Google Calendar to plan time slots for things for general productivity which helps me sort of map my day out, and will stick to them. So if I give myself 1 hour to finish a task I literally set a timer for 1 hour and get it done within that time frame. It's like gamifying my chores haha.
      1 hour can be broken up into 2x 30 minutes which is a pretty minimal ask really, so by keeping things around that time but being super focused you can actually get a lot done for art practice or anything else
      Also I remove all distractions for those small 30 minute windows. No phone etc nearby.
      I think once you start a habit forms and then it feels weird if you do not draw for 1 hour a day!

  • @dee6561
    @dee6561 Месяц назад

    Interesting video!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Thank you for watching friend!

  • @majorreniy
    @majorreniy Месяц назад

    Hello,I am a little late but in your first 100 hours drawing video you said that you want recommendations on paper and tools.
    I can recomand you the ,,my tech ballpoint pen,0.7mm,it glides on the paper even if you hold it further apart and it has smooth shading.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      Nice! Thanks for the tip! I'll try and get one and give it a go. I'm always interested in trying new tools out!

  • @siettu
    @siettu 23 дня назад

    What ur using for shading?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  21 день назад

      In this video, I have a water brush pen filled with diluted grey ink, and a paper stump. I suspect you are talking about the stump.
      It's by Derwent and it's literally just a paper stick with a sharpened end. It can be used to smudge graphite and charcoal about, but it also picks up graphite and can then be used to add tone to a degree! It's a good fast way to add some shadows.

  • @ryantrottier4452
    @ryantrottier4452 20 дней назад

    In my opinion your spaced repetition system is useful in how it optimizes time spent practicing skills you know very well vs. things you are shaky on. However, I feel like the subjective nature of self-grading each skill you study via flashcard has a lack of precision that means you inherently can't take full advantage of the efficiency of the Anki algorithm, which is optimized for precise correct/incorrect answers. Sort of like driving a Ferrari to go pick up your groceries. With this in mind, have you ever considered using the Leitner system of spaced repetition? I am considering using it myself as I believe it has some advantages over Anki for practicing drawing:
    1. Due to the subjectivity of self-evaluation making it impossible to utilize the entire efficiency of the Anki algorithm, using a simpler algorithm in a Leitner system would not be a huge drop in efficiency. (You can even base your Leitner intervals on existing models of long term memory)
    2. Physical flashcards would be more enjoyable to use if you value time away from a screen.
    3. Very easy to draw on the flashcards and design them how you want.
    4. Rather than have a scanned page on the flashcard, you can just write the page number on it. Flipping through the book to find the desired page can reinforce learning as you can see where this piece of knowledge fits within the structure of the whole book. Plus, while you have the book open, you will be more likely to re-read other pages in case they catch your eye.
    I would love to know your thoughts on this. Your videos are inspiring!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад

      That is a really cool idea! I agree with you. I have said before that really someone smarter than me needs to study my approach with regards to procedural learning, and try to figure out the algorithm for it, because all the software use algorithms aimed at declarative learning, which is great for language vocabulary, but not so much for practising a skill.
      Someone recommended using the SRS algorithm in Anki (which you can switch to) but I personally found that the intervals between cards were generally too long, and that the default SuperMemo-2 algorithm seemed to work better, but was not perfect.
      These days I just play it by ear and if a card feels rusty, or I want to explore it again in the near future, I just manually adjust the due date and the algorithm seems to make it come up more frequently.
      I will have a play around with the Leitner system though, and see how it goes! It would be a much easier method to set up than making cards, and scanning books etc.
      Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me! ✨💖

    • @ryantrottier4452
      @ryantrottier4452 14 дней назад

      @@10.000hrs No problem! Your videos are what lead me to the idea of using the Leitner system in the first place. I would love to hear about your experience with it in a video if you do end up trying it!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  13 дней назад

      @ryantrottier4452 I will try and do this some point next year! Perhaps for working on something specific.

  • @ShoMeYourMoves
    @ShoMeYourMoves Месяц назад

    I don't know if you've seen or heard of this, but I have seen some artists use a paper like shape ti draw both the head and hands in any perspectives was just thinking that it would be useful for you to know as its essentially killing two birds with one stone

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Hmm, I think I've seem people draw like a paper mask for the face, but I've never seen it for the hands before! Sounds like it would be helpful though! Someone else suggested using cylinders and that was helpful for drawing heads and this sounds similar. I'll give this a go as well!
      Thanks for sharing! 💞

  • @Evra98
    @Evra98 26 дней назад

    i have tried the how to draw book and its really hard help

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  26 дней назад +1

      You gotta take it slow my friend.
      There were times when I spent like 2 weeks just doing the same page every day and I wouldn't move on until I really understood it.
      The stuff on mirroring tilted and rotated planes I swear should be at the back. You'll likely hardly ever use it, and it's really hard and just sort of stuck in the middle of easier stuff.
      Is there a particular bit you would like help with?

    • @Evra98
      @Evra98 25 дней назад

      @10.000hrs ok I'll take it slow but I need help with the mirroring of angled planes in perspective it's hard to understand

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  25 дней назад +1

      @@Evra98 No problem! The one that deals with mirrored and rotated planes is so hard, that the only way I understood it was to build a recreation out of paper and card to study 🤯 this does not take long to make, you just need scissors and glue, but it's very useful for seeing how this works in real 3D space. You could also quickly make a similar structure on free modelling software like Blender, but you might not know how to use that.
      Mirroring just tilted planes is not that hard if you the place vertical and horizontal lines on the ends if each angled line.
      Think of this as encasing the tilted plane in a ghost box that you draw around it. You can then mirror that box in the same way you know to extend easy squares and rectangles, and map the corners of the titled plane to the ghost box on the other side.
      When in doubt, draw a box around it! Sorry this is so hard to explain 😩 I will be able to help more directly with this later this month so if you are still having trouble then, I'll be able to demonstrate directly!
      Also, the videos mentioned in the actual Scott Robertson book are pretty good and should help.

    • @Evra98
      @Evra98 25 дней назад

      @10.000hrs ohh I never thought of that that's really smart.i will definitely build one.And about the tilted planes Iv been practicing drawing them in a box like you said and it really helps me visualize it 🙏 thx

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад +1

      Nice! I think being able to eventually imagine those boxes instead of drawing them is the secret to drawing from imagination. If you can see how a box fits around it, you can fit it into perspective. That's how I do stuff like draw the human figure from weird angles and how I draw heads 👍

  • @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003
    @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003 Месяц назад +8

    What is the dream art you want to make? Technique is great and all, but it's nothing without a vision.

    • @Thegaydisaster
      @Thegaydisaster Месяц назад

      I disagree , you can definitely derive value from the process of learning and making things even without tangible returns
      (ie having fun)

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +3

      I am a bit strange in that I don't really have one other than skill acquisition. If I can draw or paint stuff from my imagination, then that's all I want. I'd like the skill some of these artists have, but have no intention to become a concept artist or anything like that. I have ideas for things I might try and illustrate but really I am just fascinated by learning and how the brain figures out how to do things, and this has become a good platform for experimenting with that.
      I do this for other fields besides art as well, but do not document those experiments at this time.

    • @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003
      @LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003 Месяц назад

      ​@@10.000hrs Do you believe one can reach mastery/exellence in various fields? I'm obsessed with this concept, and it's what I'm aiming for.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  28 дней назад +3

      For sure! I study other things besides art using this method. There are famous polymaths throughout history like Da Vinci. It's hard to define mastery though.
      For example, if you are a boxer, do you want to be world champion, win some local fight event, or just be really good and get enjoyment out of it? If mastery is being able to beat other people then maybe competing is essential.
      With art, is mastery working at a game studio? Or selling a painting for $1000? Or just being able to paint as good as you want?
      I currently aim for top 10% globally in most things, which can be a hard thing to track. Getting into the top 50% of humans in any subject is actually very very easy, but as you climb higher it gets super hard. Very few humans make it to the top 1% of anything. I'll make a video about it at some point because it's interesting. I would recommend checking out Tim Ferriss and specifically the book The 4 Hour Chef, although only the first little chapter is about this. The rest is a cook book 😅

  • @nateriver6312
    @nateriver6312 22 дня назад

    this might be the play.

  • @richardschumacher6014
    @richardschumacher6014 18 дней назад

    was the guy in the window tarkovsky?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  16 дней назад +1

      It was actually a still from some Japanese yakuza film I think. I use FilmGrab as a reference, and tend to just click the 'random' button and then paint whatever comes up.

    • @richardschumacher6014
      @richardschumacher6014 4 дня назад

      @@10.000hrs That is actually a great way to practice. Have you shared it yet?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  4 дня назад +1

      @@richardschumacher6014 I'm not sure I have actually! It's great for composition, colour and value studies 👌

  • @monbec_sigrym
    @monbec_sigrym Месяц назад

    Drawing is a series of OODA loops

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  29 дней назад

      It does seem to be! I find that really stopping and slowing down and asking how I am going to represent something seems to be really helpful in learning to paint in particular. I also find myself looking at the work of others and trying to sort of reverse-engineer why they did things they way they did.

  • @headshothamster1
    @headshothamster1 12 дней назад

    Oh god this makes me feel so dumb. I’ve been drawing for over 5 years and have probably hit 2500 hours. At 300 you’re already better than me 😅😅

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  8 дней назад

      Oh, please don't 💖 It's not my first 300 hours as a complete beginner. I've been drawing on and off casually since I was a kid, bit it was always copying. I stopped for around 10 years too.
      This experiment is me learning to draw from imagination from scratch, and the rate of improvement between points should be the thing people focus on, as opposed to the actual ability at any single point.
      I'm sure your work is amazing! I believe that you can improve pretty fast if you do a little focused training every day and really think about what you learned, and what to try next time 💪✨️

  • @TinsTins
    @TinsTins Месяц назад

    do your aquash pens ever clog up? if mine sit around for too long they clog and i havent figured out how to fix that.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Not that I have noticed yet, but I am using diluted ink, so perhaps that makes a difference. I'll keep an eye on it though! It might just be that the ink hasn't been in there long enough yet.

  • @guiltysloth
    @guiltysloth Месяц назад

    I personally hate using boxes to draw things Id rather just get an intuitive understanding of the perspective and it just feels like more work than just putting down the forms because you have to make a box then convert that box into a form.

    • @guiltysloth
      @guiltysloth Месяц назад

      also for the loomis method I really like constructing the head using the brow and frontal bone as a kind of anchor to build up the rest of the head around it also is pretty flexible if u want to stylize the face and anatomy

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      That's where I want to end up! I think at my skill level at least imagining the boxes is still a big help in considering the perspective.
      Using the frontal bone as an anchor sounds interesting. I'll definitely give it a go. There are so many variables that can tweaked on the face 🤯 I'll play with them as I learn more about specific facial anatomy.
      Thanks for the advice! It was really very helpful! 💖

    • @guiltysloth
      @guiltysloth Месяц назад

      @@10.000hrs I really respect your insight on learning art and the way you are going about doing it I feel like a ton of people think that art is just a talent you are born with but just like any other skill its just about dedication and smart practice so I really appreciate your videos keep up the good work man

  • @aninastar
    @aninastar Месяц назад

    Interesting and useful. But please, the music is very distracting, I want to hear your voice without having to filter out the music. Please drop the music! I want to hear the advice you give!

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  27 дней назад

      A few people have said this, so it will be changed in future videos. It's been really hard to get right because it turns out that between the editor software, the video encoding, and output device the viewer uses (headphones/ phone/ tv etc) the volume seemingly changes.
      I'm not sure what causes this, but if I listen with headphones I cannot hear my voice through the music 🤦‍♂️ so something needs to change.
      Thanks for letting me know! I appreciate the feedback! ✨

  • @kytill2396
    @kytill2396 28 дней назад

    i was close to never happy with anything i made

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      😢 I feel the same for a long time. I think it's very common though, and important for growth to occur! I think this is how we learn and grow, and it actually comes from being unhappy and unsatisfied with where we are right now!
      It makes us ask ourselves honestly what we can do to improve, and then chase after it ❤

  • @FilipeBranth
    @FilipeBranth 11 дней назад

    rilley abstraction worked better for me for drawing poses

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  8 дней назад

      I've had a couple of people tell me this and I'd not heard of it, but will definitely check it out!

  • @EbraheemNaq
    @EbraheemNaq Месяц назад +1

    yooooooo

  • @cory99998
    @cory99998 12 дней назад +1

    neuroscience and theory is great but dont forget to also be a human, where things are less planned and its messier. Art is ultimately about your unique voice, otherwise a machine can do the same work. My take is that the analytical stuff you can do all day every day, your brain is good at it. So are you putting in the hours into actually creating from imagination?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  8 дней назад

      I think you are correct, and have touched on something that I have been criticised for in the past. I do actually draw a lot from imagination, but more things like anatomy or simple perspective designs.
      In terms of creating finished pieces of art from imagination, I'm currently only doing this once every 200 hours to see what difference if any is visible in the work using those huge intervals.
      Once I hit a certain number of hours and have seen what the effects are, then I'll try and more frequently put the effort into this.
      Thanks for bringing this up though, you are absolutely right and it does seem very important for developing things like your own style and voice 💖✨️

  • @xNorboy
    @xNorboy Месяц назад

    hi

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад

      Hi! Have some cake! 🎂

  • @lackingagoodname3930
    @lackingagoodname3930 23 дня назад

    Hi, intermediate artist here. Don’t you think you are learning way too many things at once?😅 even Kim Jung gi couldn’t paint as well. The mecha artists aren’t so good with portraits. And Emily Hughes isn’t good with ink and mecha. I think as a human it’s okay to not know all ‘genres of art 😊😊

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  21 день назад +1

      You are correct!
      You're absolutely right to notice this, but I think context is important. I'm currently playing with something called interleaving, which is when you switch study fields within a related subject. There is some evidence that it actually increases your ability to learn and retain knowledge, presumably because the brain is forced to find associations between the different parts that are sorta of similar, sorta different. This makes you grow faster overall. It's not 100% proven, but there are studies that are interesting to read. I figured I would try and use that for maybe 500 hours, and then see what happens if I focus on 1 thing for maybe 100 hours and see the difference.
      I'm still undecided about it, but we'll see what happens!
      Thanks for mentioning this! You're a smart cookie! 💫💕

  • @_surreal99
    @_surreal99 26 дней назад

    I know Americans are terrified of silence but why are you playing music in the background?

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад

      I thought initially that it would be necessary to always have something in the background to avoid the silences, and I think that's valid, but I have a lot of trouble dialling in the volume, which makes it more noticeable.
      A lot of people recently have commented that the music needs to go, so that seems like the best option moving forward.

  • @auroradotpng
    @auroradotpng Месяц назад

    yahoo

  • @IghtIguess
    @IghtIguess Месяц назад

    I think maybe for me the main struggle is motivation and the lack of a supportive community or learning partners who’d hold each other accountable kinds of plays a part in that..

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  Месяц назад +1

      This is a very very good point that I have not covered yet. Tim Ferriss called this 'stakes' and it is an essential component generally for this sort of learning, whatever form it ends up taking. Some people best achieve this via a community and accountability partners, while some use apps that will actually charge them money if they miss a day!
      Motivation is normally linked to 'pain avoidance', so you would feel more pain from letting down your friend, who you promised you would draw every day, than to skip the drawing.
      I think it depends on the individual. I have spoken to a few people here who suffer from things like anxiety, and they end up getting anxious about doing bad drawings, then anxious about not doing any drawings at all.
      I've never suffered from that, but I just tell myself that I have to get through the bad drawings to produce the good ones. You don't have to show anyone your work either, so there's nobody to judge you!
      It's another reason to just do 1 hour a day imo, but 1 hour a week is a good enough start. You don't have to paint a masterpiece in that hour... just try to learn something about drawing by actually drawing. Books are great for that, because each page in the book generally contains an idea you can test out for yourself in the hour.
      Hopefully there is something in there that can help you a little! I am in the process of trying to set up a Discord Server to help people train a little every day, so that might be something that interests you when it appears ❤

  • @Eztefen
    @Eztefen Месяц назад

    The one and only holy eternal God created us in His image, according to His likeness. But we sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and the wages of sin is death and the verdict for our sins when the day comes for us to be judged by God is hell but God in his great love sent His only begotten Son, Jesus. fully God and fully man. And live a perfect life and died for our sins on the cross and after three days being buried He rose from the dead. The death that you and I deserve, Jesus take so He can pay and atone for our sins and give us eternal life and we can be with Him. Just like how a person may be guilty but because someone paid for his fine he is free to go that's what Jesus did for us. What only we need to do is to repent of our sins (turning away from every sins everyday) and believe and put our trust and faith on Him and what He did for us that He already paid for our sins in the cross, not trusting in our good deeds or works for our salvation or to get to heaven but on what He did for us in the cross and and actively following Him every day and building a relationship with Him. "faith working through love" "faith that has action or works".......

  • @LastDigitOnMyScratchOffTicket
    @LastDigitOnMyScratchOffTicket 25 дней назад

    Dr Santa,
    I’ve been a good boy this, so please convince 10.000 hours to make a discord server.

    • @10.000hrs
      @10.000hrs  24 дня назад +1

      🎅 Santa hears you bro