'don't lug the engine, it's 1000 times worse than redlining it' ... anyone else having flashbacks to watching those videos of the guy starting the bike in 6th? :)
He is one of the biggest noobs, and, unfortunately, so are the marketing guys of most auto manufacturers. We included a snapshot of him doing that horrifying antic in our tractability video. Do check it out! 😃
@@NewsXAuto thank you very much for the reply! subscribed :) brother, is there any chance you could take the bike onto some fairly steep off-road paths? this is my only concern, that the bike will struggle on steep uphill dirt at the moment i have a DRZ400S, which is very capable off-road, but not so good for covering long distances on road. my hope is that the himalayan 450 will also be able to do the same tracks i do on the DRZ once it has some better 50/50 tires! any info/opinion you can give me would be much appreciated!
@@pitchwife7573 thank you so much for subscribing! You'll be pleased to know that the Himi 450 doesn't struggle at all even at the steepest dirt sections even with stock rubber! 😃 The only thing you MIGHT have to watch out for is the weight, but I am guessing you are a tall person (since you ride the DRZ), so you won't really have any issues with the reach! Hope this helps! 😃 Also, which country are you from?
Bro I watched this. I got mine delivered few days back I need help on two things Since I m running in the engine it's in mumbai road conditions where even if you don't want some lugging does happen because of people coming in between, frequent gear changes etc I am really struggling as this does not have anything in 1 nd 2 gears, also m facing vibration in gear 1 and 2. Please suggest a better way to run in and how much lugging is ok??? Also are the vibes normal as I feel I hear constant buzzing in these gears, this maybe due to the vibes in the windscreen
After going through all the videos on Himalayan, this was the most informative, worth anyone's time before buying (i am geeting mine next month, hopefully!). Riding bikes for more tha 15 year but did not know the bike should not be kept at a constant speed, never saw that info readers manual, and makes complete sense. The lugging concept, I knew but very well explained. Thanks so much, i can just skip the readers manual now (happily). ❤
Very useful information, I have not seen this kind of information in any of the other RUclips videos about this bike. There are tuns of videos on Himalayan, but this one the best and deatiled, not created just for views and likes. Thanks a lot 🙏
Stupid example of bonding with partner, next time please don't try to get technical 😂 Just tell what to do/not to do and even a layman will understand. Otherwise the vidoe was Ok!
What was stupid about it? 🤔 You don't understand engines or do you not understand relationships? Or both? 😂 We will get absolutely technical, AND will also keep the humour alive. You might not like it, but others do. So, no, we can do without your unsolicited advice 😊
I didn't find this kind of well explained Himalayan video, you are an expert and definitely created this video to explain people to use bike better and appropriate method. Thanks a lot for sharing valuable information 🙏
Great video, my one question is that people cant wait to take this bike offroad before crossing the 2k mark. This bike will go offroad after 500kms for sure. How would you recommend the running in procedure while taking this bike offroad considering the tire will break loose on dirt, the engine will be revved out more etc ?
Been 2 weeks and my bike is 300plus kms I have tried my best to keep it smooth for most of the time but on the initial days maybe for 10 kms over all I had been changing gears quick and the kept the engine In that protesting area is it still ok ? Would it have caused significant harm ??
@@Off-road-Agooli I know. Watch the video to know what you have to follow from the manual and what you Do NOT have to follow. And I have mentioned the reasons as well.
Thanks for the video Shiraz, i have been running in my himmy for the past few days and i wanted to mention some things. (Please correct me if anything wrong) 1. The bike is not great to drive below 3k rpm, so shifting to second is difficult when in city traffic. I mostlty keep it in first in crawling traffic (till 4-4.k). Revving it a little high in first over knocking it in second. 2. In crawling traffic you cannot let go of the clutch completely. You have to begin feathering the clutch as you fall below 2.5k rpm (15km). This is not a bike you can drive around like a classic 350. This is unavoidable, am i right? 3. I have been holding on to certain speeds for 20 to 40 seconds before varying engine speeds. Eg. Hold it at 80 in 6th for 1 min, then do the same in 5th, then in 4th. This varies the engine rpm while allowing a constant speed, i feel its safer in highway. Howver you are varying the speed very quickly which i feel is a bit unsafe. Is this correct? 4. There is a ton of heating on the right side (alone) when crawling in traffic for long. Does this get better after 1st service?
Modern automotive engines break-in heavily within 1-2 hours. Even SAE tests for wear are 20-30 mins on the dyno. Mostly, the rate of frictional wear does not increase significantly after 10 hours of running. Latest CNC surface roughness tolerances are 1-3 microns, so the variations for the finished assembly are not high. Additionally, low tension compression/oil rings and lightweight pistons have lesser slap. A good way is to replace the stock engine oil/filter after 50-100 km of steady medium load riding with full synthetic. Now, if you rebuild the engine, factory tolerances are lost and a lengthy run-in is essential. The simulation image is outdated.
Break-in use to happen at very fast rate when plateau honing wasn’t introduced, but with that in place the breakin takes significantly longer, besides as author said, for ring compliance you need to carefully break in for recommended schedule to take care say 4th order distortions etc which is not surface quality related. Modern engines can take as long as 12k miles for it to get to optimum performance. The breakin on dyno is to achieve quick compliance so that the power figures and performance is accurate and not way off the scale. But there is no substitute for proper breakin schedule no matter what. One way to reduce bore distortion is to carry out the final machining of the bore with a deck plate that can reproduce some of the distortions that occur from the cylinder head bolts but on production engines it’s not done.
@GautamChatterji Agree 100%, it takes around 10000 km or more for a 50%+ plateau. However, I was coming to a different discussion on the break-in as the rings bed-in correctly (positive ring sealing) under gradually applied but variable HIGH loads during the initial run. Speaking from a tribological perspective, the two main reasons for improper break-ins are low power and the use of dirty lubricating oils . In layman's terms, why would you want particles circulating in the engine for 500 or 1000 km when we have decades of proof indicating that wear during the first hour of the engine run is the worst? I think this is really important and is not followed by manufacturers as they don't want to burden the average customer with an immediate maintenance appointment. That said, I own and work on my 2 civics and a CB500, I followed the 100 km oil change the first night from the dealership and a second at 500 km. At the 100 km change, a visual inspection alone was enough indicator to get rid of the factory oil. The 500 km change was not as dirty. The civics have ~290000 km and ~120000 km respectively, and the engines run as good as new. After that its 8000 km intervals assuming 70-80% highway use.
@@drury2d8 you are now agreeing that break-in is essential, but you had started off by incorrectly stating that it's not required 😃 It is very much required, and that too not on a dyno but under the weight of the vehicle at varying engine speeds. And I totally agree with the first oil change between 50-100 km, and also with the fact that the manufacturers don't want to burden the customers with it for obvious reasons. Ideally, it should be the norm that the first oil and oil-filter change at 100 km would be done by the manufacturer free of charge. If wishes were horses... 😃
@@drury2d8 I personally feel vindicated..I've always done 2 first services on bikes/cars. For my bikes, it's 200km, 800-1000. After after that, 60% of recommended mileage. My Bullet 500 gets oil changes every 2k km, intercptr 4-/ k km. Tmmrw I'm picking up the Scrambler 400x lime green. 1st at 200 PS- My enfields mint after 65k and 28k
Shiraz bhai, loved your effort and loved the care you gave to a testing motorcycle even more! Because now I know only after the proper running in you’ll give your refinement view on the engine and other performance characteristic reviews bulls eye! You know I chose the Triumph Speed 400 on your thorough review and I just love it ❤️ Will follow all the guidelines you provided in this video on my motorcycle, because I love it ❤ being a mechanical (production) engineer myself, and participating in Maruti Suzuki Supra event held at Budhh Racing circuit ( Engineering students F1 Prototype build), I definitely know how advanced machining still takes many RPM cycles to get set ( loved the previous love bonding point 😂).. aap sab ko mechanical engineer banaoge Shiraz bhai❤ and fayda yeh hoga ke to the point kaam ki cheezein seekhenge aap ke students 🤣 Loved your effort, and loved your concern for the machine even more! Keep this valuable content coming bhai! Loved it!
Thank you so much Manshant mere bhai ❤️😃 Tumhara naam bilkul apt hai. Tumse baat karke sad se sad bande ka bhi mann shaant ho jaaye! ❤️❤️ So.glad that I made the Triumph videos; thanks to it, I got a few more gems of brothers now ❤️❤️
@@NewsXAuto hahaha manshant kuchh dino se sad tha, fir usne triumph speed 400 ka review dekha aapke channel par, fir manshant ne test ride li, aur fir manshant ne dekha ke shiraz bhai ne jo kaha kya khoob kaha, aur fir manshant se raha ni gya aur usne Triumph khareed li ❤️ today enjoyed my 105 km ride, almost took care about all the valuable points you mentioned, but will keep care about high Revving.. RE chala kar 11 years taras gyi thi yeh aatma RPMs ke liye 😅🤣 ab run in proper ke baad high revs karunga ❤️ thanks for such details, aur aapka apnapan ❤️😁
One hundred per cent 😃 In fact, I just recommended one of my subscribers from my other channel (Real Auto Reviews) to watch this for running in his new Triumph 😃
Sir I have 2 questions 1. I have 950km in my odometer sometimes I lug my bike in 3 gear because of traffics will it cause any issue for the engine 2. What's the riding guide for 500- 2000km for himalayan 452 Your suggestion would be really helpful
Have answered both in the video! You must watch it. I know it's a long video, but more than worth every millisecond considering the impact it would have on your bike 😃
Thanks for the comprehensive video! Just 2 questions: Q: 32 PSI on both tyres - only when the motorcycle is delivered or is this the standard tyre pressure for Himalayan? Q. Let it idle for atleast 2 mins - only when the motorcycle is delivered or should this be followed throughout the running in period?
I have one question. Can we perform engine breaking during breaking in period ? if we can, then can we also perform rev matching ? I would think rev matching is a hard no since you have to instantly rev to high rpm which goes against having to gradually increase the rpm please help me
Because i heard everyone saying that engine breaking is good for the bike and all, so i want to know whether its okay for performing engine breaking in @@NewsXAuto
You are most welcome and it's not at all a stupid question 😃 Downhill, ride it like you normally would. For example, normally, you would be in a gear lower to have maximum engine braking to avoid going off a cliff, right? Ride it in the same manner. Downhill, don't even think, "oh it's a new bike, should I pull in the clutch more frequently?" NO! It's business as usual. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any confusion 😃
Well I ride the bike at a constant speed and with the new Himalayan I was doing the same, thinking it’s friendly and smooth for the engine and saves a bit of fuel too. You saying not to do so has made me curious. Could you kindly elaborate more on this, as I don’t the overall health of the bike to deteriorate. Thank you.
Hello sir I have recently purchased powerage exhaust for my gt 650 and i have fit it to my motorcycle. But I observed that there was some minor air leak from both the exhausts. Is this normal or should i be worried about this?
@@NewsXAuto it's not a major leak. But there is minor leak. So how can I solve this issue? I heard that once i ride the bike for some 300kms carbon will deposit in the slight gap and the air leak will be stopped . Is this true? Or should I use some kind of silicon sealent
@@Hariss1311 That would be a bit far 😁 can you make short video clips and send them to me on Insta? You may search my ID by putting in my name: Syed Shiraz Shah 😃
Is it recommended that we just take a bike for a long ride immediately after delivery for break in or just do it slowly by driving in city traffic for 100-200kms and then go for a long one?
Hi. I have this bike and I have noticed that it leans towards the right side. I also rode the test ride vehicle and it was also leaning towards the right. The service centre guy said that it is a common issue and nothing is to be done. What is your take on this?
I bought mine yesterday and no one at RE team told a single thing on the delivery time. I asked how to drive, they said keep it under 4000 rpm and max 60-70 kmph till 500 kms.
I really appreciate your work. Taking out time and providing such valuable information. I have seen the full video. Thanks and keep up the good work. 👌🏻
I shift around 3.5k rpm usually... below that the engine feels slugging and needs clutch work... in manual, 4k engine speed max is recommended for 0-500 kms
Imagine a roller massager kept at one point on your back. It would start hurting too soon, right? Now imagine the same roller massager taken all over your back, and you would be able to take it for hours, right? 😃
Bhai mine Himalayan 450 09 January ko purchase kr liya hai.. Service book me 1st service 500 km pe aur 2nd service 5000 km par kah rahe hai…. Apke video me 2nd service 2000 par hai please apni opinion bataiye
Hi bro how are you .? It’s was a good video very informative. Can you please help me I’m stuck between Himalayan 450 and continental gt 650 I’m in love with both the bikes and probably I’ll be getting one by month end which one should I go far .? I’ll mostly take it to office and once in 2-3 months I’ll go for long ride which one is more reliable in long term .?
half clutch is not just for 500km or 2000 km it is a slow poison i do get your point of maxout at 4k rpm for 1-5 gear speed varaiation was a new thing to learn
I.did. And even mentioned what to do if you're scared of taking it up to that speed! Please watch it again. You may choose the playback speed as 1.5x 😃
Last time I bought a bike the mechanics red lining it in shop 😂. Stop stop. Higher temps used on racing bikes to seal rings better for more poeer but they rebuild them twice a week😂.
I did oil and oil filter change at 400kms for HIM450 and i have also followed your instruction for running in till 500km. Now my question is - After 500km in 6th gear what is the maximum rpm or speed i should maintain? or shall i follow as mentioned in the manual not crossing the 6000rpm mark.
@@jeeneshraja9324 Not an issue then. You may take it up to 120 km/h in 6th. Just don't stay there for more than a few seconds. And remember to stop every hour (of continuous riding) and shut the engine for 15 mins. 😃
Does gradually take up speed to 90-95 before 500 km means to inc the speed gradually in every ride (e.g. 75 in 1st ride 85 in 2nd) or inc the speed in first ride slowly to 90 (like slowly increase the throttle instead of increasing it aggressively)?
@@NewsXAuto Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to have a video from you on Pre delivery inspection sir. If possible please make it, that would be helpful for many members.
First 500 km ke pahale ham kitani distance bina ruke ja sakate hai jisse hamari Himalayan 450 me koi dikkat na aee??? Aur hum first 500 km me kitana weight leke chalana safe hai??? Please help
I got my himalayan 452 just 3 days ago. While delivering, the showroom mechanic instructed me to keep max speed between 50-60 until first service. Is it necessary to maintain that speed limit?
Bro, I need to lower my seat hight because 825mm is bit higher for me. I couldn’t find 805mm seat from RE anywhere in Bengaluru. So can I reduce the riding hight by lowering the rear suspension? Or removing some cushion from the current seat? What’s your thoughts on this? Kindly suggest.
@@santoshmedar636 the latter. Get your neighborhood seat fabricator to shave off some foam from the stock seat. Way cheaper and more effective than the 810 mm accessory seat. Again, it's 810 and not 805 mm 😎
Then you will have to get up early in the morning and do as told in the video for at least 50 km daily. The rest of the day, ride like you would normally. Just don't lug the engine. Hope this helps! 😃
Sir, I keep revisiting this video because I am about to buy my H450. Thank you for making it so descriptive. Just wanted to ask if you suggest going by the manual of changing the engine oil at the recommended intervals of 10k or sooner.
@@brotorcyclistDepends upon my usage. There is absolutely no harm in 10k intervals if you are primarily riding in the city. But, if you're a nomad, who's always on the highways, I would change the oil at around 7-8k km...
@@NewsXAutoHi sir, got my Himalayan a few weeks back, completed 800 kms today. Followed your advice and the bike runs very smoothly. Wanted to share the update with you 😄
i am riding bikes from the age of 16. currently i ride 5 bikes from 125 discover to 400cc dominar. i never did anything what you said on your video on any of my bike. but still never faced any problems. just ride any new bike below 5000-6000rpm before 1st service. its that simple.@@NewsXAuto
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'don't lug the engine, it's 1000 times worse than redlining it' ... anyone else having flashbacks to watching those videos of the guy starting the bike in 6th? :)
He is one of the biggest noobs, and, unfortunately, so are the marketing guys of most auto manufacturers. We included a snapshot of him doing that horrifying antic in our tractability video. Do check it out! 😃
@@NewsXAuto thank you very much for the reply! subscribed :) brother, is there any chance you could take the bike onto some fairly steep off-road paths? this is my only concern, that the bike will struggle on steep uphill dirt
at the moment i have a DRZ400S, which is very capable off-road, but not so good for covering long distances on road. my hope is that the himalayan 450 will also be able to do the same tracks i do on the DRZ once it has some better 50/50 tires! any info/opinion you can give me would be much appreciated!
@@pitchwife7573 thank you so much for subscribing! You'll be pleased to know that the Himi 450 doesn't struggle at all even at the steepest dirt sections even with stock rubber! 😃 The only thing you MIGHT have to watch out for is the weight, but I am guessing you are a tall person (since you ride the DRZ), so you won't really have any issues with the reach! Hope this helps! 😃 Also, which country are you from?
Bro I watched this. I got mine delivered few days back
I need help on two things
Since I m running in the engine it's in mumbai road conditions where even if you don't want some lugging does happen because of people coming in between, frequent gear changes etc
I am really struggling as this does not have anything in 1 nd 2 gears, also m facing vibration in gear 1 and 2.
Please suggest a better way to run in and how much lugging is ok???
Also are the vibes normal as I feel I hear constant buzzing in these gears, this maybe due to the vibes in the windscreen
@@aps250487missed your comment. Please be advised that no amount of lugging is okay. Downshift when you sense that you would be lugging the engine.
Excellent video!! So well put together 👌🏼 even RE guys would be amazed to see how meticulous this video is about the procedure.
Thank you so much, sir! Your word means the most ❤️❤️😃😃
Getting mine next week! Your videos explains everything I need! Keep posting videos like this!
@@AkhilAniyan awesome! Many congratulations! ♥️😃
Damn right to the points. everybody should fowllow it.
Thanx anyway for tell us clearly like that.
You're most welcome, bud! ❤️ Cheers! 😃
After going through all the videos on Himalayan, this was the most informative, worth anyone's time before buying (i am geeting mine next month, hopefully!). Riding bikes for more tha 15 year but did not know the bike should not be kept at a constant speed, never saw that info readers manual, and makes complete sense. The lugging concept, I knew but very well explained. Thanks so much, i can just skip the readers manual now (happily). ❤
So glad to hear this!!! ❤️ All the best and keep me posted of your journey 😃
Getting mine this month. Thank you so much for this. Much needed information before riding it. Highly appreciated for your efforts. Cheers brother ♥️
Glad to hear that! ❤️ All the best and keep me posted 😃
Getting mine delivered in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna apply this Thank you so much for the vid
Most welcome! All the best and do keep me posted 😃
When did you book your motorcycle? How much was the waiting period? For me I have been told 4 months!!
@@AnuragKanishkaVlogs i prebooked on Nov 7th Kamet white
@@antojoshwa966 okay so almost 2 months! I have booked Slate Himalayan Salt. Hoping for an early delivery:)
@@AnuragKanishkaVlogs all the other colours apart from hanle black and kaza brown are delayed sadly
Huge thumbs up for sharing the knowledge. I request you to do performances modification to check if it changes the bikes character below 3000 rpm. ❤
Thank you so much ❤️ This was a media unit. We can't do any mods to it 😃
The way you were taking care I thought this was your bike(purchased)
That's how I have been returning media units without a scratch to the manufacturers for the past over ten years now 😃
Very useful information, I have not seen this kind of information in any of the other RUclips videos about this bike. There are tuns of videos on Himalayan, but this one the best and deatiled, not created just for views and likes. Thanks a lot 🙏
Thank you so much ❤️ Really means a lot ❤️
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. Really appreciate the efforts you put to make this video. Very informative. Thanks a ton. Kindly keep making videos like this.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Glad to hear that! Thank you so much for writing in 😃❤️
Stupid example of bonding with partner, next time please don't try to get technical 😂 Just tell what to do/not to do and even a layman will understand. Otherwise the vidoe was Ok!
What was stupid about it? 🤔 You don't understand engines or do you not understand relationships? Or both? 😂 We will get absolutely technical, AND will also keep the humour alive. You might not like it, but others do. So, no, we can do without your unsolicited advice 😊
I didn't find this kind of well explained Himalayan video, you are an expert and definitely created this video to explain people to use bike better and appropriate method. Thanks a lot for sharing valuable information 🙏
Thank you so much for the kind words! I do hope that it earned us a subscription from you 😃
What about modes?
In which modes we should run in 500
@@gshiva8516 Modes are useless. Keep it in the power mode.
@@gshiva8516 modes are useless. Keep it in the power mode.
Great video, my one question is that people cant wait to take this bike offroad before crossing the 2k mark. This bike will go offroad after 500kms for sure. How would you recommend the running in procedure while taking this bike offroad considering the tire will break loose on dirt, the engine will be revved out more etc ?
Thank you!
Offroading after 500k won't be an issue. Like I mentioned in the video, revving out more isn't an issue. 😃
Happily followed the procedure you explained.Now it's time for 500+ kms
@@VenkataSai-q3c awesome! Do keep me posted 😃❤️
Been 2 weeks and my bike is 300plus kms I have tried my best to keep it smooth for most of the time but on the initial days maybe for 10 kms over all I had been changing gears quick and the kept the engine In that protesting area is it still ok ? Would it have caused significant harm ??
No. That wouldn't have done much harm. 😃
Running in is essential... Keep the bike at 4000rpm till 500kms..... When i got my himalyan 450 the odo had only 3kms to it....
No. That's 4,000 rpm limit is incorrect. Watch the video to learn the proper procedure.
@@NewsXAuto the same is given in the RE himalyan user manual bro...
@@Off-road-Agooli I know. Watch the video to know what you have to follow from the manual and what you Do NOT have to follow. And I have mentioned the reasons as well.
Hi, thanks for explaining patiently, I appreciate it. Please also share about ABS braking does and don’t.
You are most welcome ❤️
Regarding ABS, what are your doubts? 😃
Thanks for the video Shiraz, i have been running in my himmy for the past few days and i wanted to mention some things. (Please correct me if anything wrong)
1. The bike is not great to drive below 3k rpm, so shifting to second is difficult when in city traffic. I mostlty keep it in first in crawling traffic (till 4-4.k). Revving it a little high in first over knocking it in second.
2. In crawling traffic you cannot let go of the clutch completely. You have to begin feathering the clutch as you fall below 2.5k rpm (15km). This is not a bike you can drive around like a classic 350. This is unavoidable, am i right?
3. I have been holding on to certain speeds for 20 to 40 seconds before varying engine speeds. Eg. Hold it at 80 in 6th for 1 min, then do the same in 5th, then in 4th. This varies the engine rpm while allowing a constant speed, i feel its safer in highway. Howver you are varying the speed very quickly which i feel is a bit unsafe. Is this correct?
4. There is a ton of heating on the right side (alone) when crawling in traffic for long. Does this get better after 1st service?
1) ✅
2) ❌ (watch my tractability video)
3) ❌
4) Can't comment on heat as I rode the bike in peak Delhi winters 😃
Many thanks for the video, veey helpful 🫡
The pleasure is all mine, brother ❤️ Hope it earned a subscription from you 😃
Modern automotive engines break-in heavily within 1-2 hours. Even SAE tests for wear are 20-30 mins on the dyno. Mostly, the rate of frictional wear does not increase significantly after 10 hours of running. Latest CNC surface roughness tolerances are 1-3 microns, so the variations for the finished assembly are not high. Additionally, low tension compression/oil rings and lightweight pistons have lesser slap. A good way is to replace the stock engine oil/filter after 50-100 km of steady medium load riding with full synthetic. Now, if you rebuild the engine, factory tolerances are lost and a lengthy run-in is essential. The simulation image is outdated.
So how much speed and rpm are u suggesting for breaking in hima 450 ? Are you saying we dont need.to look at the rpm or speed ?
Break-in use to happen at very fast rate when plateau honing wasn’t introduced, but with that in place the breakin takes significantly longer, besides as author said, for ring compliance you need to carefully break in for recommended schedule to take care say 4th order distortions etc which is not surface quality related. Modern engines can take as long as 12k miles for it to get to optimum performance. The breakin on dyno is to achieve quick compliance so that the power figures and performance is accurate and not way off the scale. But there is no substitute for proper breakin schedule no matter what. One way to reduce bore distortion is to carry out the final machining of the bore with a deck plate that can reproduce some of the distortions that occur from the cylinder head bolts but on production engines it’s not done.
@GautamChatterji Agree 100%, it takes around 10000 km or more for a 50%+ plateau. However, I was coming to a different discussion on the break-in as the rings bed-in correctly (positive ring sealing) under gradually applied but variable HIGH loads during the initial run. Speaking from a tribological perspective, the two main reasons for improper break-ins are low power and the use of dirty lubricating oils
. In layman's terms, why would you want particles circulating in the engine for 500 or 1000 km when we have decades of proof indicating that wear during the first hour of the engine run is the worst? I think this is really important and is not followed by manufacturers as they don't want to burden the average customer with an immediate maintenance appointment. That said, I own and work on my 2 civics and a CB500, I followed the 100 km oil change the first night from the dealership and a second at 500 km. At the 100 km change, a visual inspection alone was enough indicator to get rid of the factory oil. The 500 km change was not as dirty. The civics have ~290000 km and ~120000 km respectively, and the engines run as good as new. After that its 8000 km intervals assuming 70-80% highway use.
@@drury2d8 you are now agreeing that break-in is essential, but you had started off by incorrectly stating that it's not required 😃 It is very much required, and that too not on a dyno but under the weight of the vehicle at varying engine speeds. And I totally agree with the first oil change between 50-100 km, and also with the fact that the manufacturers don't want to burden the customers with it for obvious reasons. Ideally, it should be the norm that the first oil and oil-filter change at 100 km would be done by the manufacturer free of charge. If wishes were horses... 😃
@@drury2d8 I personally feel vindicated..I've always done 2 first services on bikes/cars. For my bikes, it's 200km, 800-1000. After after that, 60% of recommended mileage. My Bullet 500 gets oil changes every 2k km, intercptr 4-/ k km.
Tmmrw I'm picking up the Scrambler 400x lime green. 1st at 200
PS- My enfields mint after 65k and 28k
What is the mileage at 80kmph (eco mode)?✌️♥️
All answers coming up in the review video!
Shiraz bhai, loved your effort and loved the care you gave to a testing motorcycle even more! Because now I know only after the proper running in you’ll give your refinement view on the engine and other performance characteristic reviews bulls eye! You know I chose the Triumph Speed 400 on your thorough review and I just love it ❤️ Will follow all the guidelines you provided in this video on my motorcycle, because I love it ❤ being a mechanical (production) engineer myself, and participating in Maruti Suzuki Supra event held at Budhh Racing circuit ( Engineering students F1 Prototype build), I definitely know how advanced machining still takes many RPM cycles to get set ( loved the previous love bonding point 😂).. aap sab ko mechanical engineer banaoge Shiraz bhai❤ and fayda yeh hoga ke to the point kaam ki cheezein seekhenge aap ke students 🤣 Loved your effort, and loved your concern for the machine even more! Keep this valuable content coming bhai! Loved it!
Thank you so much Manshant mere bhai ❤️😃 Tumhara naam bilkul apt hai. Tumse baat karke sad se sad bande ka bhi mann shaant ho jaaye! ❤️❤️ So.glad that I made the Triumph videos; thanks to it, I got a few more gems of brothers now ❤️❤️
@@NewsXAuto hahaha manshant kuchh dino se sad tha, fir usne triumph speed 400 ka review dekha aapke channel par, fir manshant ne test ride li, aur fir manshant ne dekha ke shiraz bhai ne jo kaha kya khoob kaha, aur fir manshant se raha ni gya aur usne Triumph khareed li ❤️ today enjoyed my 105 km ride, almost took care about all the valuable points you mentioned, but will keep care about high Revving.. RE chala kar 11 years taras gyi thi yeh aatma RPMs ke liye 😅🤣 ab run in proper ke baad high revs karunga ❤️ thanks for such details, aur aapka apnapan ❤️😁
@@manshantsingh8689 ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for doing this video. ❤
Most welcome 😃❤️
Very informative video!
Thank you so much ❤️😃
Very informative video 🥰. Please make mileage test video on Himalayan 450
Sure! And thank you 😃❤️
Very very helpful vedio and can this same thing be done on scrambler 400x
One hundred per cent 😃 In fact, I just recommended one of my subscribers from my other channel (Real Auto Reviews) to watch this for running in his new Triumph 😃
Thank you
bro how about downshifting?
@@virajchavan1 what about it? 😃
Great tutorial
Thank you so much ❤️
Sir I have 2 questions
1. I have 950km in my odometer sometimes I lug my bike in 3 gear because of traffics will it cause any issue for the engine
2. What's the riding guide for 500- 2000km for himalayan 452
Your suggestion would be really helpful
Have answered both in the video! You must watch it. I know it's a long video, but more than worth every millisecond considering the impact it would have on your bike 😃
Thanks for the comprehensive video! Just 2 questions:
Q: 32 PSI on both tyres - only when the motorcycle is delivered or is this the standard tyre pressure for Himalayan?
Q. Let it idle for atleast 2 mins - only when the motorcycle is delivered or should this be followed throughout the running in period?
@@abhishekkhedkar3200 1) For the first 100 km. Thereafter, stick to the company recommended air pressure mentioned on the swingarm.
2) For lifetime.
Bought my 450 on 19th jan and happy to know the run in process
So glad to hear this! ❤️
Any verdict on this bike buddy
best content ever in YT abuout himalayan sir well done cheers
Thank you so much ❤️❤️😃😃
I got mine last week and I did follow rpm Limits for 200 km but started crossing 6k rpm after that 😮 , am i cooked !
@@Asaritwo what did I say in the video? 😃
@@NewsXAuto haven't watched whole video yet 😅 was only half way when i commented
@@NewsXAutodo not keep it pinned to redline and don't lug the engine. 😅
@@Asaritwo I hope you got your answer now 😁😃
@@NewsXAuto thanks ! Will Play safe from Here On farward till second service 🤞🏻
Hatts off brother
Thank you so much ❤️
I have one question.
Can we perform engine breaking during breaking in period ?
if we can, then can we also perform rev matching ?
I would think rev matching is a hard no since you have to instantly rev to high rpm which goes against having to gradually increase the rpm
please help me
My question is, why would you even ride like that in the running-in period?
Because i heard everyone saying that engine breaking is good for the bike and all, so i want to know whether its okay for performing engine breaking in @@NewsXAuto
Thank you so much for this valuable information. What should you do when the road is downhill? Maybe mine is a stupid question 🤔
You are most welcome and it's not at all a stupid question 😃 Downhill, ride it like you normally would. For example, normally, you would be in a gear lower to have maximum engine braking to avoid going off a cliff, right? Ride it in the same manner. Downhill, don't even think, "oh it's a new bike, should I pull in the clutch more frequently?" NO! It's business as usual. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any confusion 😃
Well I ride the bike at a constant speed and with the new Himalayan I was doing the same, thinking it’s friendly and smooth for the engine and saves a bit of fuel too. You saying not to do so has made me curious. Could you kindly elaborate more on this, as I don’t the overall health of the bike to deteriorate. Thank you.
Have explained at length in one of the threads here itself. Do check it out, and it would be clear to you 😃
Is it value for money compared to Adv 390X. Considering majority of road touring, shall I wait for new 399 Adv ?
It definitely is a vfm proposition when compared to the 390 ADV.
The 399 ADV will come in 2025.
Hi bro, I got service exclamatory symbol first in 40kms of ride after bike delivery why??
You should have taken a u-turn and gone back straight to the showroom. Did you do that?
@@NewsXAuto yes
@@AjayaKumara-m5j what did they say? It basically denotes an error/malfunction. What did it turn out to be?
@@NewsXAuto I didnt understand plz could you explain.
@@AjayaKumara-m5j I am asking, what did the showroom/service center guys say??
Going to book mine this week. Thanks for the informative video
Most welcome,.Rohit. All the best and keep me posted 😃
Hello sir
I have recently purchased powerage exhaust for my gt 650 and i have fit it to my motorcycle. But I observed that there was some minor air leak from both the exhausts. Is this normal or should i be worried about this?
@@balaji1952 air leak from where exactly??
@@NewsXAuto from the joints where aftermarket exhaust fits the bend pipe
@@balaji1952 No, there should be NO leakage.
@@NewsXAuto it's not a major leak. But there is minor leak. So how can I solve this issue?
I heard that once i ride the bike for some 300kms carbon will deposit in the slight gap and the air leak will be stopped . Is this true?
Or should I use some kind of silicon sealent
@@balaji1952 so you've just installed them?? How many km after the installation?
There is noise while shifting gear from N to 1 and 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 Tak sound is that normal?🥹🥲
@@Hariss1311 where are you based? If in Delhi/NCR, I will check your bike 😊
@@NewsXAuto I'm from Tamil nadu bro🥲
@@Hariss1311 That would be a bit far 😁 can you make short video clips and send them to me on Insta? You may search my ID by putting in my name: Syed Shiraz Shah 😃
Is it recommended that we just take a bike for a long ride immediately after delivery for break in or just do it slowly by driving in city traffic for 100-200kms and then go for a long one?
The former. That's what I did 😃 Just make sure you take a 10-15 mins break after every hour 😃
Is it really lugging at 3000 rpm? Maybe depends how quick and smooth change? Drive smooth within rev limit seems enough rule
It lugs exactly as mentioned in the video. "Shift time" has nothing to do with it. But you're free to do whatever you feel is good for your bike 😊
I have already booked one don't know whether to buy or not... Can u plz suggest me regarding vibration... On higher revs
There's a video we have made especially on that! Check it out! 😃
Hi. I have this bike and I have noticed that it leans towards the right side. I also rode the test ride vehicle and it was also leaning towards the right. The service centre guy said that it is a common issue and nothing is to be done. What is your take on this?
It shouldn't. My test bike didn't. See a different service center.
Excellent 💯
Thank you
Most welcome, brother ❤️
I bought mine yesterday and no one at RE team told a single thing on the delivery time. I asked how to drive, they said keep it under 4000 rpm and max 60-70 kmph till 500 kms.
That's why I made this video. Follow it word by word, and you'll have the most reliable Himalayan ever 😃❤️
I really appreciate your work. Taking out time and providing such valuable information. I have seen the full video. Thanks and keep up the good work. 👌🏻
I shift around 3.5k rpm usually... below that the engine feels slugging and needs clutch work... in manual, 4k engine speed max is recommended for 0-500 kms
And I have mentioned when to follow and when not to follow it 😃
Should we run in the bike in each gear?
I mean in 6th gear we play from 75 to 90 and coming back to 75. Should we do the same thing for all the gears?
No!!!! This is to be done only in the 6th gear! In the rest of the gears, follow what has been mentioned in the video 😃
@@NewsXAuto Thanks for the info!!
@@balaji1952 all the best and keep me posted!
Why should we not maintain constant speed. Any disadvantages??? And any advantages of we keep changing the speed?
Imagine a roller massager kept at one point on your back. It would start hurting too soon, right? Now imagine the same roller massager taken all over your back, and you would be able to take it for hours, right? 😃
Bhai mine Himalayan 450 09 January ko purchase kr liya hai..
Service book me 1st service 500 km pe aur 2nd service 5000 km par kah rahe hai….
Apke video me 2nd service 2000 par hai please apni opinion bataiye
Dusri service nahi hai 2000 pe. Running-in ka bataya hai ki poori complete hogi running in 2,000 pe. 😊
Ok bhaai 2000 km tak running in period ka dhyan duga usake bad normal drive karuga aur service aur oil change 5000 km per hi karauga thik hai na…
@@Asheshfitnessmotivation abhi kitni chali hai bike?
225 km
@@Asheshfitnessmotivation 300 pe pehli kara lo. Thank me later 😊 Second waali 5k pe kara lena, uski koi dikkat nahi 😃
Actually after delivery H450 I'm taking the bike to bangalore to chennai around 350kms, shall i take new bike continously rev.
You apparently didn't watch the full video! This has been answered as well in it 😃
@@NewsXAuto no by ur text I want to take info😁
It was awesome tutorial. Can you let us know how to ride off road
@@shrivatsa1565 sure! Shall do a video on that too 😃
Great info❤
Thank you so much ❤️❤️😃😃
Got my bike yesterday
Thanks for the helpful video
Awesome! Many congratulations 🎉👏❤️❤️
Hi bro how are you .? It’s was a good video very informative. Can you please help me I’m stuck between Himalayan 450 and continental gt 650 I’m in love with both the bikes and probably I’ll be getting one by month end which one should I go far .? I’ll mostly take it to office and once in 2-3 months I’ll go for long ride which one is more reliable in long term .?
And just for information can I do hyper riding on Himalayan what about continental.?
@@gyanibaba2.0.0 what's your height and weight? And which one (GT and Himalayan) do YOU have your heart on?
@@NewsXAuto 80kgs and 5,ft 10.5 inches
@@NewsXAuto I’m very confused between Himalayan and continental gt650 want to do hyper riding with monthly once long ride
@@gyanibaba2.0.0 you didn't answer the second part of my question?
half clutch is not just for 500km or 2000 km
it is a slow poison
i do get your point of maxout at 4k rpm for 1-5 gear
speed varaiation was a new thing to learn
Where did I say half clutch is okay after 500 or 2000 km???
@@NewsXAuto 😅😅bhai i was just making a statement i'm not acussing /questioning/blaming you
@@raunakkumar8721 okay 😁😁❤️❤️
You are a true reviewer.
Thank you so much ❤️😃
I notice that you only mentioned the rpm limit, so there is no speed limit as long as u maintain the rpm limit for each gear?
I.did. And even mentioned what to do if you're scared of taking it up to that speed! Please watch it again. You may choose the playback speed as 1.5x 😃
@@NewsXAuto also how do u manage with tube tyres? In case of a puncture I mean, like in tubeless we can ride for few km
Last time I bought a bike the mechanics red lining it in shop 😂. Stop stop. Higher temps used on racing bikes to seal rings better for more poeer but they rebuild them twice a week😂.
Race bike engines don't have have longevity expectations 😊
Mechanics have no stake..all that revving is useless and owners shouldn't allow it
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fv I did but you ain't there the whole time lol
I did oil and oil filter change at 400kms for HIM450 and i have also followed your instruction for running in till 500km.
Now my question is - After 500km in 6th gear what is the maximum rpm or speed i should maintain? or shall i follow as mentioned in the manual not crossing the 6000rpm mark.
@@jeeneshraja9324where do you live and what's the temperature there between 12 noon to 4 pm?
@@NewsXAuto i live in tamilnadu, here right now max temperature is between 32 to 36.
@@jeeneshraja9324 Not an issue then. You may take it up to 120 km/h in 6th. Just don't stay there for more than a few seconds. And remember to stop every hour (of continuous riding) and shut the engine for 15 mins. 😃
@@NewsXAuto thank you very much... 🙂👍
@@jeeneshraja9324 all the best and keep me posted 😃❤️
What is the max speed range i should follow for initial 500 kms?
Mentioned in the video! You didn't watch it!
I did bro later thanks 😂😂😂
When I try to reach 50 in 3rd gear I can feel stress in the engine is this normal???
What's the odo reading of your bike?
@@NewsXAuto 450km
Does gradually take up speed to 90-95 before 500 km means to inc the speed gradually in every ride (e.g. 75 in 1st ride 85 in 2nd) or inc the speed in first ride slowly to 90 (like slowly increase the throttle instead of increasing it aggressively)?
The latter. 😃
@@NewsXAuto Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to have a video from you on Pre delivery inspection sir. If possible please make it, that would be helpful for many members.
@@balaji1952 sure! 😃
Nice & very informative video..!!!
Good job bro 👏👍🏾❤
Thanks bro 😃❤️
First 500 km ke pahale ham kitani distance bina ruke ja sakate hai jisse hamari Himalayan 450 me koi dikkat na aee???
Aur hum first 500 km me kitana weight leke chalana safe hai???
Please help
1) No limit. Just take a break for 10-15 mins after every hour.
2) Max 194 kg INCLUDING your weight.
Thank you
What about oil change at 500kms ?
I would get the first oil changed on my personal bike within 100 km. And the next at around 3k. Thereafter, I would follow the company's 5k interval 😃
can i ran the new bike mor 60 km and eve 60km in a day ?? in rom limit
Yes, you can. Especially in winters. You can ride for one hour and then take a break 😃
I got my himalayan 452 just 3 days ago. While delivering, the showroom mechanic instructed me to keep max speed between 50-60 until first service. Is it necessary to maintain that speed limit?
Oh lord, NO!!!!! You'll damage your engine. Please follow the procedure mentioned in the video 🙏
@@NewsXAuto Thanks for the confirmation, bhai 🙏🏼
Bro, I need to lower my seat hight because 825mm is bit higher for me. I couldn’t find 805mm seat from RE anywhere in Bengaluru. So can I reduce the riding hight by lowering the rear suspension? Or removing some cushion from the current seat? What’s your thoughts on this? Kindly suggest.
@@santoshmedar636 the latter. Get your neighborhood seat fabricator to shave off some foam from the stock seat. Way cheaper and more effective than the 810 mm accessory seat. Again, it's 810 and not 805 mm 😎
@@santoshmedar636 have made a detailed seat height video too. Check it out!
How does one run in the engine (first 500 km) if open highways arent in easy access. I mean the traffic doesnt allow going beyong 3-4 th gear
Then you will have to get up early in the morning and do as told in the video for at least 50 km daily. The rest of the day, ride like you would normally. Just don't lug the engine. Hope this helps! 😃
@@NewsXAuto ok. Thank you
@@bharatarun1720 have you already bought it or you will be getting it? Or were you just asking about the running-in in general? 😃
@@NewsXAuto booked it. What is ur opinion on the bike. Hoping made the correct decision
@@bharatarun1720 oh absolutely! It is a beautiful motorcycle! You're going to have a great time with it 😃
So nicely explained .. getting mine next month..keep posting 👍🏼
Glad to hear that!!! All the best and do keep me posted 😃❤️
Bhai sound me problem aa rahi keval ek hi side sunai de raha hai video me
Hope you resolve it ✍🏻
Yaar kabhi kabhi GoPro karta hai ye 😢
@@NewsXAuto aah then it's fine
me bina earphone hi dekh lunga 👍🏻☺️
Sir, I keep revisiting this video because I am about to buy my H450. Thank you for making it so descriptive. Just wanted to ask if you suggest going by the manual of changing the engine oil at the recommended intervals of 10k or sooner.
@@brotorcyclistDepends upon my usage. There is absolutely no harm in 10k intervals if you are primarily riding in the city. But, if you're a nomad, who's always on the highways, I would change the oil at around 7-8k km...
@@NewsXAuto Okay. Thank you very much!!
@@brotorcyclist all the best and keep me posted 😃❤️
@@NewsXAuto definitely sir! 😄🙌🏻
@@NewsXAutoHi sir, got my Himalayan a few weeks back, completed 800 kms today. Followed your advice and the bike runs very smoothly. Wanted to share the update with you 😄
does this apply while going uphill?
You won't be riding at a constant speed uphill anyway 😃 Just don't lug the engine! Don't be afraid to be in a lower gear + higher revs 😃
@@NewsXAutolovely...exactly..
And if possible, avoid extreme uphill on brand new bike
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fv absolutely! It's about minimising stress/load on a new engine 😃
unneccesarilly complicating simples things is not wise .
It's the other way around. This video simplifies what is a complex subject. You might not be wise enough to see it like that, and that's okay. 😊
i am riding bikes from the age of 16. currently i ride 5 bikes from 125 discover to 400cc dominar. i never did anything what you said on your video on any of my bike. but still never faced any problems. just ride any new bike below 5000-6000rpm before 1st service. its that simple.@@NewsXAuto
@@RS23545ignorance is bliss...
@@RealAutoReviewsfolly..Haan..?
Right on bro
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fv hain?
Quite a lot of information.
Necessary 😃
@@NewsXAuto Very much.
Well to begin with I'm happy that i landed here, i got my bike delivered yesterday and this is the content i was looking for !
Thankyou ❤
Glad to hear that! Welcome, and keep me posted of your journey 😃
Great content…. Is it fine to do the running in with pillion.
Thank you so much! 😃❤️ Initially? No, preferably. What's your weight and the pillion's?
@@NewsXAuto Thanks for the quick response 😊. The weight together will be around 125Kg.
@@trueroutescafe547 and what would be just the Rider's weight?
@@NewsXAuto rider - 64 and pillion - 61
@@trueroutescafe547 and are you about to buy the bike or you have already bought it?
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