What I love about silo is that it is adaptation that is faithful to the book but not slavishly so - it enhances the world of the books and makes changes that enhance the story but don’t stray from major plot points. So if you have read the books you will still find plenty of interesting new details.
My original thumbnail for the vid said ‘adaptation is hard’ - as you say, to build on the world of the books but in a totally different medium, where you don’t just follow the books to the letter ‘because…’ - requires excellent judgement and no shortage of talent.
Tv show added more relationships which the book didn’t. IMO unnecessary and just dragging out. How often tv shows ruined a successful story, going 5 seasons plus and trying to milk out?
@@Kikuyo2 always used to be the way in the old days you had to reach 4 seasons to get syndication, which is where the money really started rolling in. Not the case any more!
As someone who's just watched the show, and is now devouring every piece of content about it here, this is by FAR the best and most comprehensive breakdown of why the show is so good.
There have been 2 shows recently that I absolutely loved & was very invested in, From & Silo. As you pointed out, both of them felt intellectually and emotionally intriguing and in both cases I cannot wait for the next season to show us more. In regards to Silo, I liked the first 2 episodes but found the next 2 a bit slow but was glad to hang in there to see the story unfold
These have been 2 of my favorite recent shows, From having so many similarities with Lost (even more than Silo) actually works for me, and we know from the writers that From is going in a specific direction no matter how many seasons they get, so we won't be left with as many unanswered questions...hopefully. But I agree on these 2 being the most intriguing series' this year. Yellowjackets is another great show IMO.
@@rogrm21 Personally I love that type of storytelling if done properly, but I can understand how it frustrates some. Its like finally starting to piece together a jigsaw puzzle, but the more pieces you put together the larger the puzzle becomes.
Oh my god this was a great show. I'm actually really surprised that Apple out of all people managed to make great shows, namely Severance and Silo. They are both very intriguing and well written
Not sure why you don't think the largest most successful company (currently) in the world can make a great show. By the way...Apple did make it. They simple financed it for their network.
This is so nerdcore and I’m all for it. Gez is that film buddy who’s actually seen the films on those lists of films to watch. I love his cheeky professor vibe, want more!!!
Analysis like this is priceless, when professional show you the academic side of masterpiece you discover esthetic and beauty of the world through. Big thanks for this video and hope its not the last ❤️🔥
It was a little slow to get into but once Juliette started to work with people I was liking her character a bit more and by the end was rooting for her. Excellent analysis. I'm really interested in seeing if Juliette can make it to another silo and get inside and see how it's different inside there. I don't know if they all have the same Pact book to go by or if some silos have figured out a better or just different way of doing things, but it is interesting. Glad to hear they're making season 2. I was bummed when HBO cancelled Raised By Wolves, because I would have liked to have seend them wrap up that story.
Did they not get the message across about why people are sent outside to clean? People who try to do things differently have to clean, that is die. It's a terrible system IMO. I've read all the books and I'm still scratching my head about the system, the pact.
@@shelleywinters6763 i haven't read the books but i was wondering that too. you can't deny that the existence of that cgi footage is worse in the long run (stability-wise). the only reason it exists is to make the cleaners clean, and that's already a stretch imo. or the fact that the radio should've picked up on other silos at some point anyway. or the fact that you can't just erase history from everyone's minds (i wouldn't assume they just murdered most silo residents during the rebellion), people talk and people share even in totalitarian systems. it's these details that sour the viewing experience to me. there are millions of stories about the post-apocalyptic world and there's always something weird about them (notably hunger games, divergent, etc.) and i'm like ok you tried. that said, silo still rises above most.
Excellent series so far, very well done! I read the books a few years back and always thought it would make for a great series. Looking forward to season two👍
Amazing show with suberb acting, fantastic sets and excellent photography. By the 3rd episode, I was hooked. Can't wait for Season 2 and I may end up reading all three of the books. Thanks for the excellent analysis.
Great analysis as usual, Gez! I had to hold off on this one until I finished the season. "The exploration of the human condition" is the best explanation I've heard to describe (good) sci-fi that I read once in an intro of a Phil K. Dick novel. Silo had me hooked immediately, but then I thought I figured it out and got a bit bored in the middle until it hooked me back in the end.
I loved the way they reasonably subtly showed us things that didn’t fit in the world but never had any character mention them, like the wireless bright red 18 key fob, or the higher tech colour monitors in the observation room. So many questions arise but none of them really matter to the events being shown at that moment.
New to this channel, came across is for SILO. (Great show, fully agree with the video) I just wanted to say, I absolutely love the way you analyze and comment on movies and shows, with a lot of insight and knowledge. One of the better serious channels I know. I hope you keep this going, and review older classics like Shawshank, The Shining and BTTF. Movies you can go completely wild on.
I’m so there for that! Have to do a bit of trend surfing at the moment to grow the channel, but once it’s got an audience I’ll spend a bit more time on the classics. You’ll notice I do lean on them for references!! I’ve got an interesting take on BTTF by the way (How Back to the Future Breaks All thé Rules - But is Still Somehow the Perfect Screenplay)
Thank you for this video - love this series. Your video was well done and I learned a lot - very clear and organized info, not repetitive, and helpful summary at the end. Subscribed!
Silo is by far the best thing I've seen this year ... I love everything you mentioned. Lost is my number 1 in top 10 show and I love this type of show followed by From and so on ...
Great reflections and insight thanks! Really enjoyed the series and of course it sent me to the trilogy which I had missed earlier. What a read! Loved the books and literally couldn’t put them down…
Loved it so much that I needed to know what happened after Jules walked into the barren wasteland. I just finished the first book. Wow! So now I can’t wait for season two and I’m just starting in book two.
@@thescriptflip Very good! I'd say most changes in the show were good and necessary (for example in the book everyone in the silo has to wear coveralls corresponding to their jobs), some things I'm not too sure how are going to work going forward since they are not even revealed in the first book. And if the show gets a third or even more season it'll be very interesting to see how they adapt them to the screen, but overall very excited about the future of the show.
I agree with so much of your estimation, seriously over looked. and until you mentioned it I didn't even make the Rachel/Dune connection, she has such presence here.. all the acting is top notch actually, and the world building is excellent.. besides that the "fill in" effect, they build a world and then fill in the details as they go.. so realistic.. you learn more as you go making you more invested each episode. you hate tim robbins but then love him within a 3 episode arc.. that proves how good the show is...
subscribed from this video - There's not a lot of great or consistent breakdowns of shit thats not comics. But im addicted to breakdowns BECAUSE OF MARVEL. So for things like : Sucession, Triange of Sadness, EEAAO, After Sun, Severance, The Bear, Nope , PIG, really big big projects with buzz, some of the breakdowns are so lackluster. Im excited to see somebody with your chops make educated breakdowns about why things work, breakdowns on motivations and not just RECAPS OF THE PLOT - which unfortunately a lot of the crap that is non comic book - can be. Loved this show, thanks for the vid.
Hey Josh - thanks so much for the comment and the support. That was exactly my thoughts too - there’s very few people out there who have *been there and done it* actually applying that knowledge and sharing it. Mostly because whilst you’re still in the biz you simply don’t have enough time, and also people are super careful about not shitting on anyone else’s projects as you never know what comes back round. I’ve had a little bit of time out and it’s given me the space to talk more freely 👍 Next up is going to be Strange New Worlds by the way! And check out my film on Succession too if you’ve not seen it yet.
@@thescriptflip hell yeah, saw the sucession one, im a wanna be storyteller, a painter who dabbles in comics and writing somethings, i love it when the writing on a movie is on point, and the excecutions on other aspects of how things work, so it can help me try to make my storytelling in all mediums better. I love essays on writing breakdowns, motivation breakdowns, but also have seen cool shit on what camera angles say, and how that and framing your shots in comics movies or paintings can be so full of meaning too. Cheers from Guam, gonna keep watching
In the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" written by Phillip Dick, which was the basis for "Blade Runner", androids have no empathy and are very different than those in the film. That book is all about empathy, and androids in the book are not more human than humans, if more human means having empathy. The book and the film are different in many points, but that is the main difference.
there's another big different plot point, in the book people have "mood adjusting machine" which dispenses different drugs to create custom moods. This was very eerie when I read it at the height of SSRIs popularity. The name "Blade Runner" is also from author William S. Burroughs, who had decades-long heroin addiction, I kinda wonder if producer Deely was a throwing him a bit of credit and perhaps $ at that point for the rights. Also the "Tears in the Rain" speech was an improvised line from Rutger Hauer, it's amazing that it summed up the theme of the movie so well! For a long time it was my favorite movie, probably in part because various other versions than the US theatrical version were around and they were highly prized! The origami unicorn brings up the notion that Decker is an android himself, which even if you rejected the idea, was really interesting to think about.
@@squirlmy actually the title Blade Runner came from the writer of SF, Alan E Nourse’s novel, The Bladerunner, not William S Burroughs. And that book bears no relation to the blade runner movie. Guess they just liked the sound of the title.
Your analysis is so good. Absolutely had to sub. Huge fan of the books so am excited to see how S2 resolves, and HOW THE HELL DO THEY WRITE BOOK 2 FIR FILM??? Excited for your future analyses on this show.
Thank you! And yes - book 2 will be hard for production as it’s not contained like this! I suspect they’ll take parts of it as flashback which they can run alongside the stuff with Juliet in S2, and re-dress some of their existing sets to act as Silo ‘in construction’
I love this show and after watching the Season One finale, decided to read the books to ascertain the "mystery of the Silo?" But so excited to see what this amazing show does with Season Two...
The hard drive is not a mcguffin, it's a plot contrivence, because we see it. Mcguffin's are similar to a plot contrivence except we never see what the mcguffin is; think 'what's inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction?' Great story. Makes for good television. 😊
I fcking loved every second of it it's like I want to forget it and want to rewatch it again and again and again and I want them to hurry it up for 2nd season I can't fcking wait man I just instantly fell in love with this series
last episode kick: Silo(s). - How many have survivors. - Did each receive the same version of the Pact? - Do they all speak English? - Are there tunnels beneath (the big door). - Did any develop alternates to supplement failing agriculture? - Is there an overseer for all the silos? - Are they on Earth? - Is there an Overseer? - Did any use the big door to form alliance or invade another Silo? - Who will become Jule‘s ally first, Simon or his wife? - Why was Simon so shocked by what everyone saw outside? - Where do dead people go? - Supply knows their stuff, right! What else do they know or do? They seemed almost disciplined like a religious group, very calm when compared to the Mechanics. I never knew of and haven‘t read the books.
A small exception about that definition of Sci-fi. The term for "what if" is actually speculative fiction. I mean, it's right there in the name, to speculate. In a venn diagram there is a lot of overlap between sci-fi and speculative fiction but it's not complete. Sci-fi is a genre of speculative fiction, but "what if" actually covers a LOT of other genres as well like utopian/dystopian, alternate history, supernatural, super heroes, fantasy, horror even crime procedurals etc. That's why we define "what if" as speculative fiction. I mean if you define sci-fi as "what if", then some horror story is "What if" then what good is that definition for sci-fi as a definition if it cannot differentiate it from horror. It's not "what if" that defines them. I remember reading something somewhere by Harlan Ellison and why he preferred to be associated with the term speculative fiction writer rather than science fiction writer because "what if" was his bread and butter, but he jumped genres very easily. So if "what if" is a common trait it's not a thing that differentiates, hence it is useless as a defining factor to specify a genre. Yeah it's exceedingly hard to define sci-fi, even the experts disagree because it's difficult to put boundaries on science fiction because by it's nature it's boundless. But it can't be defined simply as "what if" because, more specifically, a critical component of sci-fi has to do with the advancement of concepts, which is not the same as "what if" per se. Though as I said there is a lot of overlap.
Nice point! Yes - all stories should really be ‘what if?’ - *my* definition of sci-fi was that the what if applied specifically to a philosophical question, as opposed to a ‘normal world’ type question.
I always come into Sci-fi shows with a bit a trepidation. I'm not a cynic about it, so I do hope I enjoy it. Silo went beyond my expectations. I am very happy with how they ended the season. As he said in the video there was emotional fulfillment to many of the story arcs. I think lesser shows would have milked Juliet's exit of the silo to the end of a S2 (or maybe even s3). I am so intrigued to read the books, but this show is so good, I don't know if I just want to discover the whole story via the show.
Just caught up to the show before season 2 and oh dear I was hooked right from episode 1 and I was already thinking wow that’s so Westworld S1 lol even the opening song sounds like it haha
Agreed. My main question at the end of the finale, was:- why was there a simulated vision of the world actually being perfectly ok at all. That it does turn out to be an illusion, what possible reason is it there for it to be in the first place? It would seem that the only people who are possibly supposed to see it are those sent to clean, even though we know a temporary glitch showed it on the cafeteria screen. Al that I can think of is that it might be to encourage the cleaners to remove their helmets, and so make their death certain. Bt that then begs a load of other questions! Guess we'll have to wait till season two for at least some of the answers. What I do hope is that there is a clear ending envisioned for the program, and that it doesn't drift off into ever more convoluted plot twists and diversions that have ruined many a promising TV show. And, as you say it is based on a trilogy, so that will hopefully be the way it pans out (pun intended!).
PS Would be interesting to contrast/compare this to Severance, which like Silo is intriguing, has a unique vibe and a similar claustrophobic feel to it.
Something I picked up was George’s recording to Jules. He said he found what he was looking for, and the water, it didn’t matter. Because no one in the Silo can swim, that doesn’t make sense. Unless, the water is also a hologram, designed to stop people travelling between Silos through the tunnels.
enjoyed silo since the start! It’s worth to mention that all apple shows are very well produced! Take foundation for isntance, the quality rivals cimena.
Foundation is beautiful. Even if you don’t like the story or acting, the world building is like nothing I’ve seen before. The costumes are also amazing. I’m glad I like the story. Looking forward to season 2!
As usual a great series on Apple TV+. I don't mind that there is not so much content on that streaming service compared to others. As long as they're going to keep the quality high.
The first two episodes have you hooked, then it's a bit slow for another two, then it paces up around 6, then kinda slow again at 7-8, then great finale. Overall great show, just wish that the pacing was quicker in some of those slow episodes
The emotional wrap up for the end of season 1 of Silo works because all of the emotional points resolved feel both natural and earned. The series wrap up of Lost that was referenced as a similar ending failed not just because it left so many unanswered questions but because may of the emotional resolutions felt unnatural and unearned. Sure, a few of the Lost characters were connected enough that maybe waiting for each other in a post life waiting room makes some sense, but way too many of them were only there because they spent a few days or at most a few weeks with these people so seeing their entire post-life next steps hinge on these people and not the friends and family they most likely had been with most of their lives just made no sense and it felt like it was happening for no reason other than the plot needed it to happen. Silo avoids this very well as these kinds of moments feel as though they are driving a plot and not being driven by a plot.
About the comment about the fashion: We need to remember that there's a possiblity that people in the silos developped their own fashion/trends like we have. Without asking for spoiler, I just want to say that the way people are dressed up might not be very helpful when trying to guess a timeline. You, mentioning LOST. Me: "We don't talk about that here... 👐" 😅
I only made it to episode 6 before getting fed up with waiting for answers while being subjected to too much, too drawn out dramatization. I want to know how the story ends without having to put up with both. Lucky for me there is tons of talking about it on youtube.
Ok. I really liked Silo and can’t wait for season 2 and beyond. That said, I felt they could have cut at least two hours of running up and down those darn stairs. It made the plot seem kinda silly and unreal. Something similar to what happened to Lost in the later seasons but at a smaller scale and more bearable. Just my take. And by the way a very good take on the series. I will continue to follow your content.
@@thescriptflip did you read the books? its explained rather clearly. on purpose as a form of control to prevent easy meeting in groups, control the flow of information (why its expensive to send an electronic message so instead they pay less to send a slower hand (porter) delivered note. and also to control the flow of materials. much harder and longer to move quantities of things by hand. the second half of Wool makes all this clear.
I haven’t read the books yet but I thought the show did a good job of showing they don’t want easy travel or communication between levels to control information and breed fear
Great analysis and I really like the show. It was the type of show that makes me think about it later. Having said that, the things that bugged me the most is why all of the secrecy? Why not instead of sending people out as a from of execution, they could send them out safely to explore then return with the knowledge they gain. They could have sent someone out to clean and have them return and confirm it's not ready for people to evacuate the Silo. They could have multiple expeditions and I think that would be more in line with humanity. Humanity is always on a quest to explore the unknown. It's our nature. With knowledge there would be less chance of rebellion. The only reason I can think of why they lie is that the people in charge have no intention of ever leaving. And of course, that makes no sense either. I simply don't understand the power struggle.
It’s about control through fear - without fear of the outside they don’t have the power to stop rebellions, and we’ll find out how bad things get if rebellions happen!
I almost stopped watching “Silo” after the first episode because it seemed predictable, in “The Matrix”-y, done to death, “nothing is as it seems” theme. But, I kept watching because I wasn’t following any other series. I hadn’t heard of “Wool”, so I was delighted by the ending, where yes, in fact, everything was as it seemed. I agreed with the comment that pulling on too many loose threads will unravel your buy-in to a sci-fi series, and the need for writers to create detailed, plausible worlds.
@@thescriptflipOk, fair enough. It does leave you feeling pretty conflicted as a watcher sometimes. But I have to recommend that you go back and finish it …. The ending is absolutely spectacular. From your analysis of Silo above, I think you’ll love the end of Severance if you give it another shot.
My question is, if the secret level is below the bottom level (which is the generator), and the silo is surrounded by other silos...where the hell are these mines that Lukas was sentenced to?
I think you did a genius critique of the series. One of the best critiques I have ever seen. You made the mistake of dragging it out too long, which took away from your brilliant presentation.
Enjoyed the show a lot. Did feel it’s pacing was s tad drawn out, maybe 8 episodes? But a great cast, great design and ending. I look forward to the next season
I really enjoyed the show, but there are few questions bothering me. 1. Why did Holston decide to clean? He knew the screen wouldn't change regardless if you clean or not. 2. Why didn't the builders add a wiper to the sensor? 3. How many helmets with VR visor were made? Is it going to be sufficient for the intended duration? What if they run out of them? 4. Why are there only 4-5 bodies outside? In 140 years only 5 people went out? Why haven't the bodies decomposed? I understand the suit wouldn't decompose because it's synthetic material, but the suits aren't flattened, soft tissue would have reduced the volume of the suit by a lot.
The biggest one here is question number 2! But you have to assume it’s a device that’s intended to get dirty, to create the spectacle of punishment and reinforce the sense of collective duty for those still in the silo. Staving off rebellions is the number 1 priority (as we will discover) so any form of social / mental manipulation that achieves that is logical.
I half-agree with the poster below about the mystery surrounding the fake outside view in the helmets. It seems like a silly thing to maintain...if a person is being sent outside the Silo to prevent the break-down of order, why give the condemned person a false view of the world? To entice them to clean the sensor? That's a pretty thin motivation. I guess the false view would overwhelm their emotions and cause a lapse in critical thinking, but that's hardly a reason to maintain it vs. the risk of the the fake outside view accidentally being shown to everyone...and causing riots.
Yes I mention this logic gap in the vid - it may yet become clearer as to why. The show is well written enough that I have faith it’s not just a plot hole 🤣
It’ll be the best part of a year before it’s released unfortunately. They only recently announced it - so will need writing/shooting/post, about 10 months worth!
Best series of 2023 so far
I’m going to go and say best series of 2023 period
Fax 📠
True❤cant wait for season 2
Have you seen "From"?
Best new series yes
What I love about silo is that it is adaptation that is faithful to the book but not slavishly so - it enhances the world of the books and makes changes that enhance the story but don’t stray from major plot points. So if you have read the books you will still find plenty of interesting new details.
My original thumbnail for the vid said ‘adaptation is hard’ - as you say, to build on the world of the books but in a totally different medium, where you don’t just follow the books to the letter ‘because…’ - requires excellent judgement and no shortage of talent.
just started reading the books due to the series. You really want to keep going to find out!
@@ajjohnston78 yep!!
Tv show added more relationships which the book didn’t. IMO unnecessary and just dragging out. How often tv shows ruined a successful story, going 5 seasons plus and trying to milk out?
@@Kikuyo2 always used to be the way in the old days you had to reach 4 seasons to get syndication, which is where the money really started rolling in. Not the case any more!
Such an underrated show! I hope more people find it soon!
As someone who's just watched the show, and is now devouring every piece of content about it here, this is by FAR the best and most comprehensive breakdown of why the show is so good.
thx for mentioning shawshank as the tim robbins connection and so glad
he's part of this. he was robbed of an oscar for shawdhank
Agreed!
There have been 2 shows recently that I absolutely loved & was very invested in, From & Silo. As you pointed out, both of them felt intellectually and emotionally intriguing and in both cases I cannot wait for the next season to show us more. In regards to Silo, I liked the first 2 episodes but found the next 2 a bit slow but was glad to hang in there to see the story unfold
Yes - this is was i was referring to in the vid when I say they really made us hang on for 8 episodes!
Agreed. From is also excellent.
I’ve dropped from when they started to create more questions than answers! Looks like the writers are throwing a lot of ideas to see what sticks
These have been 2 of my favorite recent shows, From having so many similarities with Lost (even more than Silo) actually works for me, and we know from the writers that From is going in a specific direction no matter how many seasons they get, so we won't be left with as many unanswered questions...hopefully. But I agree on these 2 being the most intriguing series' this year. Yellowjackets is another great show IMO.
@@rogrm21 Personally I love that type of storytelling if done properly, but I can understand how it frustrates some. Its like finally starting to piece together a jigsaw puzzle, but the more pieces you put together the larger the puzzle becomes.
Oh my god this was a great show. I'm actually really surprised that Apple out of all people managed to make great shows, namely Severance and Silo. They are both very intriguing and well written
Not sure why you don't think the largest most successful company (currently) in the world can make a great show. By the way...Apple did make it. They simple financed it for their network.
@@dreamabyss5423 what
For All Mankind is also great
Quality over quantity baby!
Station 11 is another great series that was adapted from a book.
Great season 1, can’t wait for season 2.
This is so nerdcore and I’m all for it. Gez is that film buddy who’s actually seen the films on those lists of films to watch. I love his cheeky professor vibe, want more!!!
Thanks!
Amazing review brother, I love the way you just get right and then articulate beautifully the show ❤
Analysis like this is priceless, when professional show you the academic side of masterpiece you discover esthetic and beauty of the world through. Big thanks for this video and hope its not the last ❤️🔥
Most certainly not - thanks for the support! My thoughts on Strange New Worlds going up later today 👍
Good video - To me this is the best tv since Westworld S1.
Agree (certainly in terms of genre stuff)
It was a little slow to get into but once Juliette started to work with people I was liking her character a bit more and by the end was rooting for her. Excellent analysis. I'm really interested in seeing if Juliette can make it to another silo and get inside and see how it's different inside there. I don't know if they all have the same Pact book to go by or if some silos have figured out a better or just different way of doing things, but it is interesting. Glad to hear they're making season 2. I was bummed when HBO cancelled Raised By Wolves, because I would have liked to have seend them wrap up that story.
Yes, me too!
Did they not get the message across about why people are sent outside to clean? People who try to do things differently have to clean, that is die. It's a terrible system IMO. I've read all the books and I'm still scratching my head about the system, the pact.
@@shelleywinters6763 i haven't read the books but i was wondering that too. you can't deny that the existence of that cgi footage is worse in the long run (stability-wise). the only reason it exists is to make the cleaners clean, and that's already a stretch imo. or the fact that the radio should've picked up on other silos at some point anyway. or the fact that you can't just erase history from everyone's minds (i wouldn't assume they just murdered most silo residents during the rebellion), people talk and people share even in totalitarian systems.
it's these details that sour the viewing experience to me. there are millions of stories about the post-apocalyptic world and there's always something weird about them (notably hunger games, divergent, etc.) and i'm like ok you tried. that said, silo still rises above most.
This channel is seriously underrated.
It’s new! Thanks for the support :)
Excellent series so far, very well done! I read the books a few years back and always thought it would make for a great series. Looking forward to season two👍
Same!
It's great to see this channel picking up speed! I love the details you go in and the explanations of how series are created. Good luck!
Thank you Marty! Appreciate the support :)
Amazing show with suberb acting, fantastic sets and excellent photography. By the 3rd episode, I was hooked. Can't wait for Season 2 and I may end up reading all three of the books. Thanks for the excellent analysis.
Thank you!
Great analysis as usual, Gez! I had to hold off on this one until I finished the season. "The exploration of the human condition" is the best explanation I've heard to describe (good) sci-fi that I read once in an intro of a Phil K. Dick novel. Silo had me hooked immediately, but then I thought I figured it out and got a bit bored in the middle until it hooked me back in the end.
Yep the middle lagged a bit - I loosely refer to this in the vid (8 episodes being fed on scraps). Thanks Scott!
I loved the way they reasonably subtly showed us things that didn’t fit in the world but never had any character mention them, like the wireless bright red 18 key fob, or the higher tech colour monitors in the observation room. So many questions arise but none of them really matter to the events being shown at that moment.
Yes, exactly!
New to this channel, came across is for SILO. (Great show, fully agree with the video) I just wanted to say, I absolutely love the way you analyze and comment on movies and shows, with a lot of insight and knowledge. One of the better serious channels I know. I hope you keep this going, and review older classics like Shawshank, The Shining and BTTF. Movies you can go completely wild on.
I’m so there for that! Have to do a bit of trend surfing at the moment to grow the channel, but once it’s got an audience I’ll spend a bit more time on the classics. You’ll notice I do lean on them for references!!
I’ve got an interesting take on BTTF by the way (How Back to the Future Breaks All thé Rules - But is Still Somehow the Perfect Screenplay)
Thank you for this video - love this series. Your video was well done and I learned a lot - very clear and organized info, not repetitive, and helpful summary at the end. Subscribed!
Thank you! I appreciate it :)
Loved this analysis, havent even watched the show - would love to see more of these types of videos!
Thanks Terence - plenty more coming!
Silo is by far the best thing I've seen this year ... I love everything you mentioned. Lost is my number 1 in top 10 show and I love this type of show followed by From and so on ...
Great video, I love how you insert filmmaking knowledge. I am confident this channel will get large easily
Thank you Tanya!
Good review. This show is one of the best shows I've ever seen if not the best. ❤
Definitely my favorite show this year
Excellent insights. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Hi from Brazil! Great analysis.
Thanks David!
Thanks for your insights
Really well done video! You got yourself a new subscriber ☺️
Thank you, and welcome!
Awesome analysis! Keep it up man!
Thank you!
Great reflections and insight thanks! Really enjoyed the series and of course it sent me to the trilogy which I had missed earlier. What a read! Loved the books and literally couldn’t put them down…
Nice one Matt!
Top notch review - thanks 🙏 🎉❤
Thanks!
Loved it so much that I needed to know what happened after Jules walked into the barren wasteland. I just finished the first book. Wow! So now I can’t wait for season two and I’m just starting in book two.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great great analysis thanks 😊
My pleasure!
Great video, I'm almost finished with Dust, I really hope some of my friends find the show and get obsessed like me so we can talk about it!
Nice! How have you found the book?
@@thescriptflip Very good! I'd say most changes in the show were good and necessary (for example in the book everyone in the silo has to wear coveralls corresponding to their jobs), some things I'm not too sure how are going to work going forward since they are not even revealed in the first book. And if the show gets a third or even more season it'll be very interesting to see how they adapt them to the screen, but overall very excited about the future of the show.
@@tomascabrera1 yes me too!
I agree with so much of your estimation, seriously over looked. and until you mentioned it I didn't even make the Rachel/Dune connection, she has such presence here.. all the acting is top notch actually, and the world building is excellent.. besides that the "fill in" effect, they build a world and then fill in the details as they go.. so realistic.. you learn more as you go making you more invested each episode. you hate tim robbins but then love him within a 3 episode arc.. that proves how good the show is...
subscribed from this video - There's not a lot of great or consistent breakdowns of shit thats not comics. But im addicted to breakdowns BECAUSE OF MARVEL.
So for things like :
Sucession, Triange of Sadness, EEAAO, After Sun, Severance, The Bear, Nope , PIG, really big big projects with buzz, some of the breakdowns are so lackluster.
Im excited to see somebody with your chops make educated breakdowns about why things work, breakdowns on motivations and not just RECAPS OF THE PLOT - which unfortunately a lot of the crap that is non comic book - can be.
Loved this show, thanks for the vid.
Hey Josh - thanks so much for the comment and the support.
That was exactly my thoughts too - there’s very few people out there who have *been there and done it* actually applying that knowledge and sharing it. Mostly because whilst you’re still in the biz you simply don’t have enough time, and also people are super careful about not shitting on anyone else’s projects as you never know what comes back round.
I’ve had a little bit of time out and it’s given me the space to talk more freely 👍
Next up is going to be Strange New Worlds by the way! And check out my film on Succession too if you’ve not seen it yet.
@@thescriptflip hell yeah, saw the sucession one, im a wanna be storyteller, a painter who dabbles in comics and writing somethings, i love it when the writing on a movie is on point, and the excecutions on other aspects of how things work, so it can help me try to make my storytelling in all mediums better. I love essays on writing breakdowns, motivation breakdowns, but also have seen cool shit on what camera angles say, and how that and framing your shots in comics movies or paintings can be so full of meaning too.
Cheers from Guam, gonna keep watching
@@joshbarrigada thanks Josh! Can’t say I’ve met anyone from Guam before!
Amazing content. Please keep it coming! Instant subscription.
Thank you Ksenia!
Your analysis interesting I can't wait for season 2!!!(
Thanks - me too!
In the book "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" written by Phillip Dick, which was the basis for "Blade Runner", androids have no empathy and are very different than those in the film. That book is all about empathy, and androids in the book are not more human than humans, if more human means having empathy. The book and the film are different in many points, but that is the main difference.
Great point!
there's another big different plot point, in the book people have "mood adjusting machine" which dispenses different drugs to create custom moods. This was very eerie when I read it at the height of SSRIs popularity. The name "Blade Runner" is also from author William S. Burroughs, who had decades-long heroin addiction, I kinda wonder if producer Deely was a throwing him a bit of credit and perhaps $ at that point for the rights. Also the "Tears in the Rain" speech was an improvised line from Rutger Hauer, it's amazing that it summed up the theme of the movie so well! For a long time it was my favorite movie, probably in part because various other versions than the US theatrical version were around and they were highly prized! The origami unicorn brings up the notion that Decker is an android himself, which even if you rejected the idea, was really interesting to think about.
@@squirlmy actually the title Blade Runner came from the writer of SF, Alan E Nourse’s novel, The Bladerunner, not William S Burroughs. And that book bears no relation to the blade runner movie. Guess they just liked the sound of the title.
Very good and not annoying like some of recaps of SILO.
Haha, thank you! Very much trying to NOT just make a recap. It’s all about the insight!
Your analysis is so good. Absolutely had to sub. Huge fan of the books so am excited to see how S2 resolves, and HOW THE HELL DO THEY WRITE BOOK 2 FIR FILM??? Excited for your future analyses on this show.
Thank you!
And yes - book 2 will be hard for production as it’s not contained like this! I suspect they’ll take parts of it as flashback which they can run alongside the stuff with Juliet in S2, and re-dress some of their existing sets to act as Silo ‘in construction’
I love this show and after watching the Season One finale, decided to read the books to ascertain the "mystery of the Silo?" But so excited to see what this amazing show does with Season Two...
The hard drive is not a mcguffin, it's a plot contrivence, because we see it. Mcguffin's are similar to a plot contrivence except we never see what the mcguffin is; think 'what's inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction?'
Great story. Makes for good television. 😊
Love this analysis, just had a chuckle when you said the elements are earth sky water and air, where did fire go and what is sky lmao
Well you have to assume they’re familiar with fire?! Esp down in engineering. And air too, otherwise they’d all be dead 🤣
I fcking loved every second of it it's like I want to forget it and want to rewatch it again and again and again and I want them to hurry it up for 2nd season I can't fcking wait man I just instantly fell in love with this series
Have to say I did not expect the visor view to be the simulation. Also didn’t realise it was the porous tape that caused Holston to die.
This show is above every other show this year.
Loved this video and think you should do one on Severance. I get a very similar vibe from both shows
Severance is coming up a bit 👍
Couldn't hope for a better adaptation. Really enjoyed the novellas years ago. Glad it finally made it to the screen.
Yep, me too!
last episode kick: Silo(s).
- How many have survivors.
- Did each receive the same version of the Pact?
- Do they all speak English?
- Are there tunnels beneath (the big door).
- Did any develop alternates to supplement failing agriculture?
- Is there an overseer for all the silos?
- Are they on Earth?
- Is there an Overseer?
- Did any use the big door to form alliance or invade another Silo?
- Who will become Jule‘s ally first, Simon or his wife?
- Why was Simon so shocked by what everyone saw outside?
- Where do dead people go?
- Supply knows their stuff, right! What else do they know or do? They seemed almost disciplined like a religious group, very calm when compared to the Mechanics.
I never knew of and haven‘t read the books.
Great series of questions!! Wait till you start to hear about the protocols for rebellions 🤣
@@thescriptflip Yes, then I definitely want to read book
A small exception about that definition of Sci-fi. The term for "what if" is actually speculative fiction. I mean, it's right there in the name, to speculate. In a venn diagram there is a lot of overlap between sci-fi and speculative fiction but it's not complete. Sci-fi is a genre of speculative fiction, but "what if" actually covers a LOT of other genres as well like utopian/dystopian, alternate history, supernatural, super heroes, fantasy, horror even crime procedurals etc. That's why we define "what if" as speculative fiction. I mean if you define sci-fi as "what if", then some horror story is "What if" then what good is that definition for sci-fi as a definition if it cannot differentiate it from horror. It's not "what if" that defines them.
I remember reading something somewhere by Harlan Ellison and why he preferred to be associated with the term speculative fiction writer rather than science fiction writer because "what if" was his bread and butter, but he jumped genres very easily. So if "what if" is a common trait it's not a thing that differentiates, hence it is useless as a defining factor to specify a genre.
Yeah it's exceedingly hard to define sci-fi, even the experts disagree because it's difficult to put boundaries on science fiction because by it's nature it's boundless. But it can't be defined simply as "what if" because, more specifically, a critical component of sci-fi has to do with the advancement of concepts, which is not the same as "what if" per se. Though as I said there is a lot of overlap.
Nice point! Yes - all stories should really be ‘what if?’ - *my* definition of sci-fi was that the what if applied specifically to a philosophical question, as opposed to a ‘normal world’ type question.
I always come into Sci-fi shows with a bit a trepidation. I'm not a cynic about it, so I do hope I enjoy it. Silo went beyond my expectations. I am very happy with how they ended the season. As he said in the video there was emotional fulfillment to many of the story arcs. I think lesser shows would have milked Juliet's exit of the silo to the end of a S2 (or maybe even s3). I am so intrigued to read the books, but this show is so good, I don't know if I just want to discover the whole story via the show.
I think you’ll get the most enjoyment by doing all of one before you start the other - but that will require patience!
Is a great series and really enjoying it. As you point out, it is superbly crafted and just such a great storyline.
Thanks George!
Just caught up to the show before season 2 and oh dear I was hooked right from episode 1 and I was already thinking wow that’s so Westworld S1 lol even the opening song sounds like it haha
Best show I have seen in years.
Agreed. My main question at the end of the finale, was:- why was there a simulated vision of the world actually being perfectly ok at all. That it does turn out to be an illusion, what possible reason is it there for it to be in the first place?
It would seem that the only people who are possibly supposed to see it are those sent to clean, even though we know a temporary glitch showed it on the cafeteria screen. Al that I can think of is that it might be to encourage the cleaners to remove their helmets, and so make their death certain. Bt that then begs a load of other questions!
Guess we'll have to wait till season two for at least some of the answers.
What I do hope is that there is a clear ending envisioned for the program, and that it doesn't drift off into ever more convoluted plot twists and diversions that have ruined many a promising TV show. And, as you say it is based on a trilogy, so that will hopefully be the way it pans out (pun intended!).
PS Would be interesting to contrast/compare this to Severance, which like Silo is intriguing, has a unique vibe and a similar claustrophobic feel to it.
The books wrap it up, so I’m pretty sure the series will too!
And yes - agree re Severance 👍
Why are your clips so much brighter than when I watch?
I would say its show of the year for sure
Something I picked up was George’s recording to Jules. He said he found what he was looking for, and the water, it didn’t matter.
Because no one in the Silo can swim, that doesn’t make sense. Unless, the water is also a hologram, designed to stop people travelling between Silos through the tunnels.
Interesting!
I love the worn look of the silo. Theres grime and large cracks in the walls.
I love the series! Also I have the same T-Shirt from Qwertee
Nice!
1:40 , thats is great photography !!!
Love the Show!!
Loved this show! Bought the books.
Nice!
With Peripheral the best show in the last years.
enjoyed silo since the start! It’s worth to mention that all apple shows are very well produced! Take foundation for isntance, the quality rivals cimena.
Foundation is beautiful. Even if you don’t like the story or acting, the world building is like nothing I’ve seen before. The costumes are also amazing. I’m glad I like the story. Looking forward to season 2!
The odds of jumping the shark are diminished.
Last seasons of game of thrones enters the chat.
Haha! Well to be fair the final book hadn’t been written yet 😊
@@thescriptflip The final book(s) will never be written.
I simply loved 🥰
I watched the whole season then rewatched it with all the family and friends I told about it.
Nice!
Good show. Some of Apple TV‘s series are very impressive. Severance being the best, followed by Silo. 👍👍👍
As usual a great series on Apple TV+. I don't mind that there is not so much content on that streaming service compared to others. As long as they're going to keep the quality high.
Agree!
The first two episodes have you hooked, then it's a bit slow for another two, then it paces up around 6, then kinda slow again at 7-8, then great finale. Overall great show, just wish that the pacing was quicker in some of those slow episodes
Yep - this is what I’m talking about when I talk about the A/B/C/D structure and the choice to sideline the A story for periods!
The emotional wrap up for the end of season 1 of Silo works because all of the emotional points resolved feel both natural and earned. The series wrap up of Lost that was referenced as a similar ending failed not just because it left so many unanswered questions but because may of the emotional resolutions felt unnatural and unearned. Sure, a few of the Lost characters were connected enough that maybe waiting for each other in a post life waiting room makes some sense, but way too many of them were only there because they spent a few days or at most a few weeks with these people so seeing their entire post-life next steps hinge on these people and not the friends and family they most likely had been with most of their lives just made no sense and it felt like it was happening for no reason other than the plot needed it to happen. Silo avoids this very well as these kinds of moments feel as though they are driving a plot and not being driven by a plot.
Fair point!
I used to feel that way until I rewatched the whole thing in a few months when it came to Disney+
This show is fantastic and I can’t wait for season 2.
About the comment about the fashion: We need to remember that there's a possiblity that people in the silos developped their own fashion/trends like we have. Without asking for spoiler, I just want to say that the way people are dressed up might not be very helpful when trying to guess a timeline.
You, mentioning LOST.
Me: "We don't talk about that here... 👐" 😅
Lost would appear to be quite a controversial topic to raise 🤣
@@thescriptflip Because it stunk after the first few episodes.
Just started watching it. In someway it reminds me of the series Ascension.
I only made it to episode 6 before getting fed up with waiting for answers while being subjected to too much, too drawn out dramatization. I want to know how the story ends without having to put up with both. Lucky for me there is tons of talking about it on youtube.
I love. This show I got so many people watching it
Ok. I really liked Silo and can’t wait for season 2 and beyond. That said, I felt they could have cut at least two hours of running up and down those darn stairs. It made the plot seem kinda silly and unreal. Something similar to what happened to Lost in the later seasons but at a smaller scale and more bearable. Just my take. And by the way a very good take on the series. I will continue to follow your content.
Yes I’m not sure what logic there was to not build elevators into the design of the silo 🤣
@@thescriptflip did you read the books? its explained rather clearly. on purpose as a form of control to prevent easy meeting in groups, control the flow of information (why its expensive to send an electronic message so instead they pay less to send a slower hand (porter) delivered note. and also to control the flow of materials. much harder and longer to move quantities of things by hand. the second half of Wool makes all this clear.
@@ChrisGraham00 I did read the books but 10 years ago so I’d forgotten this detail! Thanks for clarifying 👍
I haven’t read the books yet but I thought the show did a good job of showing they don’t want easy travel or communication between levels to control information and breed fear
Great analysis and I really like the show. It was the type of show that makes me think about it later. Having said that, the things that bugged me the most is why all of the secrecy? Why not instead of sending people out as a from of execution, they could send them out safely to explore then return with the knowledge they gain. They could have sent someone out to clean and have them return and confirm it's not ready for people to evacuate the Silo. They could have multiple expeditions and I think that would be more in line with humanity. Humanity is always on a quest to explore the unknown. It's our nature. With knowledge there would be less chance of rebellion. The only reason I can think of why they lie is that the people in charge have no intention of ever leaving. And of course, that makes no sense either. I simply don't understand the power struggle.
It’s about control through fear - without fear of the outside they don’t have the power to stop rebellions, and we’ll find out how bad things get if rebellions happen!
Great explanation. Can you explain the ending of 'From' series as well? It's the 2nd best 2023 series after Silo.
I’d need to watch it first! 🤣
@@thescriptflipit’s worth your time. It is also a little more horror, so a slightly different genre of tv.
I almost stopped watching “Silo” after the first episode because it seemed predictable, in “The Matrix”-y, done to death, “nothing is as it seems” theme. But, I kept watching because I wasn’t following any other series. I hadn’t heard of “Wool”, so I was delighted by the ending, where yes, in fact, everything was as it seemed. I agreed with the comment that pulling on too many loose threads will unravel your buy-in to a sci-fi series, and the need for writers to create detailed, plausible worlds.
Cheers Tom!
Apple has had so many excellent shows recently. Would love to get your analysis of Severance.
Severance! There was so much I loved about it, but elements wound me up and I didn’t make it to the end. So perhaps not qualified to judge!
@@thescriptflipOk, fair enough. It does leave you feeling pretty conflicted as a watcher sometimes. But I have to recommend that you go back and finish it …. The ending is absolutely spectacular. From your analysis of Silo above, I think you’ll love the end of Severance if you give it another shot.
@@daveyoung3806 Thanks for the suggestion!
If they follow the books all answers will be happening. Such an amazing read!!!!
If anyone hasn't seen it yet, and is watching this. STOP now, and go do yourself a favor and watch it, before you see this.
Or at least watch up to the final section where i discuss the ending!
Do you own a back to the future car? Silo was fantastic and your analysis helps to nail why it is so good, thanks.
Haha, yes I do own a DeLorean - and thank you :)
@@thescriptflip nice 🤟
Between Silo and Severance, Apple TV have provided some of the best Sci Fi TV in ages.
accurate, i need more severance or i'll explode
Along with “Foundation” on Apple TV. Issac
My question is, if the secret level is below the bottom level (which is the generator), and the silo is surrounded by other silos...where the hell are these mines that Lukas was sentenced to?
Very good question!!
I think you did a genius critique of the series. One of the best critiques I have ever seen. You made the mistake of dragging it out too long, which took away from your brilliant presentation.
Yes finding the right length for these is a challenge! Still working on it 👍
can you cover from i think its another good example of a show that asks too many questions. it also has Harold Perrineau from lost in it.
Yes lots of requests for this!
Enjoyed the show a lot. Did feel it’s pacing was s tad drawn out, maybe 8 episodes? But a great cast, great design and ending. I look forward to the next season
Yes I agree actually - felt like the story in eps 3 through 8 could have been compressed into 4 episodes rather than 6.
where are Holston's and Allison's body? They were not there in the wide overhead view of all the silos
Ooh interesting - that’s the first ‘objective’ truth we’ve been given. Every other shot has either been of the display or the visor.
I really enjoyed the show, but there are few questions bothering me.
1. Why did Holston decide to clean? He knew the screen wouldn't change regardless if you clean or not.
2. Why didn't the builders add a wiper to the sensor?
3. How many helmets with VR visor were made? Is it going to be sufficient for the intended duration? What if they run out of them?
4. Why are there only 4-5 bodies outside? In 140 years only 5 people went out? Why haven't the bodies decomposed? I understand the suit wouldn't decompose because it's synthetic material, but the suits aren't flattened, soft tissue would have reduced the volume of the suit by a lot.
The biggest one here is question number 2!
But you have to assume it’s a device that’s intended to get dirty, to create the spectacle of punishment and reinforce the sense of collective duty for those still in the silo.
Staving off rebellions is the number 1 priority (as we will discover) so any form of social / mental manipulation that achieves that is logical.
Did you cover For All Mankind?
I haven’t done, but could!
@@thescriptflip OMG that show is as good as Silo. I think the Characters are so fleshed out.
Lost gave me NOTHING but questions, and I ended up really hating it as an experience. This feel much more rewarding.
Can totally understand that re Lost!
@@thescriptflip By the way, should have mentioned that I very much enjoyed your video. Thanks for the great content.
@@Shichman thanks for the support!
loved the books, and I'm sad that a) I didn't know there was a series and b) I don't have Apple TV !
See if there’s a free trial you can then binge the shows during :)
I half-agree with the poster below about the mystery surrounding the fake outside view in the helmets. It seems like a silly thing to maintain...if a person is being sent outside the Silo to prevent the break-down of order, why give the condemned person a false view of the world? To entice them to clean the sensor? That's a pretty thin motivation. I guess the false view would overwhelm their emotions and cause a lapse in critical thinking, but that's hardly a reason to maintain it vs. the risk of the the fake outside view accidentally being shown to everyone...and causing riots.
Yes I mention this logic gap in the vid - it may yet become clearer as to why. The show is well written enough that I have faith it’s not just a plot hole 🤣
When is s2 up?
It’ll be the best part of a year before it’s released unfortunately. They only recently announced it - so will need writing/shooting/post, about 10 months worth!
@@thescriptflip may God help us
You could cover From. It seems to be a sleeper, but quite good.