FULL LIVE Demo: High Performance Post Frame Wall Design NFBA 2024 Expo
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
- This is a full live demo about our high performance post frame wall design we showcased at the 2024 NFBA Expo in Des Moines, IA. the NFBA is the National Frame Builders Association and at the Expo builders from all over the country gather to see new products for the industry as well as learn from a ton of different educational sessions. This is the second year performing a demonstration in front of the entire expo and it was an honor.
If looking for full Post Frame Plans of our recent jobs click below
rrplans.bigcartel.com/
Plans can be used for full builds, or used as guides for any post frame build. Plans include high level details showcasing how we put our structures together. As always you can also reach out to me and have a personal one on one consultation if you need more help.
Kyle, if you ever come to the point you can't do the job anymore because your back hurts, you can become a teacher. It is a rare talent to explain things so everyone in the room can understand it. You have that talent, make (more) use of it!
Greg’s back, Kyle’s brains 😂
Natural teacher… probably why a non-builder like me keeps watching every episode. Thank you Kyle and Greg.
I framed two offices and a waiting room inside a block built garage and I used rock wool in between my studs on the exterior walls. The garage was sitting along a major road too so lots of traffic noise. I also used 5/8 drywall covering a thick mill plastic for vapor barrier. I'm in PA so lots of cold weather but you'd never know it inside those rooms. The traffic noise was gone except for the occasional dump truck traffic but even that was but a whisper. The customer didn't like the cost of the rock wool but after the job was done he said it was well worth it.
I've been watching your channel for a couple of years now. Everything I've seen makes sense to me and I'm not a builder. So when i decide to build my own home I'll be using what i learned from here.
Solid demo Brother! 🤙🏽
Been a contractor for 30+ yrs and fully appreciate new methods and materials to ensure a premium build.
I am from Denmark/Europe the land where Rockwool is from, we build our houses from brick's and If we build a new house here in Denmark there have to at least 30 cm/11.8110236 inches all over for walls and roof etc. that's the rules for a new build home (that you live in) and some people even build what is called "zero houses" (zero energy loss) All walls are done with 60 cm/23.6220472 inches thick Rockwool walls.
Keep up the good work guys love what you are doing here on your channel so much to learn and you are a good teacher :)
Ive got to say well done Kyle, it takes a lot to get up in front of a room full of strangers and show them how you work and have them quiz you on it.
The way you explained the benefits and to motivate your peers to strive for the best. Second to none 👌Keep up the excellent work guys, look forward to your next videos!
Kyle, that was a excellent presentation that You and Greg delivered to the people that attended. It was very well explained on the methods that You use on a daily basis in your builds, as well as the benefits for your customers in the long term of their ownership after the build is complete.
FYI Rockwool is not the only mineral wool insulation manufacturer. I recently built a wood shop and an addition on my house. I used Owens Corning mineral wool. It was less costly than Rockwool with the same benefits.
It's kind of like the "Kleenex" phenomenon. People use that brand name to refer any tissue. The same has happened with Rockwool in describing any mineral wool product.
if you generically classify them as mineral wool, yes there is rockwool, owens corning, and i believe johns manville. but ownes corning and johns manvilles mineral wool formulation is slightly different. rockwool includes basalt (ie a rock) that the other two do not. I personally think this makes it a better product. if you have handled both, put both side-by-side, you would see/feel the difference. not sure it matters from an R value perspective but rockwool is easier to work with. wether you would pay more for rockwool is your choice but i have and would again
@@dlg5485 Exactly! I have known the brand Rockwool for almost 40 years now, and it has become a product type name, just like Kleenex, Lego, or Hoover. And I am not even a builder. I just helped putting it into my parents house and used some of the leftovers for building loudspeakers.
But I am more astonished that there still are americans who haven't heard the name at all... How far detached from the real world can people be?!?
Yes! He also mentioned that people can use what they want, that's just his preference. Here in central Canada as a home builder, I've worked with all three, Owen's, Roxul and Rockwool, but my preference is Rockwool. It's more stable, way easier to handle/work with, does far better with sound dampening. Something about the density and the way they orient their fibers give it far better stability and more compression resistance. It definitely cost more compared to the other two, but like anything else you get what you pay for.
@@ronlovell5374 Roxul rebranded as Rockwool a few years back
Always very informational!! I appreciate everything you teach your audience!
As usual Kyle Great Job! Thanks for taking/making the time to teach.
This was a great breakdown! I’ve been following the build of your RR HQ build, so I’ve enjoyed the information you’ve shared on that, and I’ve watched a couple of your blower door demonstrations on your last couple of builds, so this made a lot of sense to me! Thanks!
Awesome, thank you!
One thing about sealing the way you are doing and preventing drafts is from an animal perspective. Rodents such as mice/rats follow a wall and if they feel air movement they will start working that spot, mice only need 1/4 x 1/4” inch hole. So by sealing the way you are , you also inadvertently helping prevent future issues from that perspective.
@RR Buildings , build a hempcrete barndo with spacers and bolts going through the horizontal boards. Then you can get back the sheeting.
Kyle, I love it that you are always looking to learn and improve the quality of your build. Especially as you have the option of just sitting back. There are plenty posting on RUclips who are the exact opposite. Cowboy builders doing poor work and complaining when people in the comments point it out.
Maybe why, 20% of clients need to get someone else in to sort the problems.
Kyle, when the Amish guy asked/stated the code requirement for continous r5 exterior. You could of let them know about comfort board. Comfort board was designed specifically for that requirement. You might need to run it horizontal on post frame.
You did point out the difference between that comfort board when you had it out showing off the thermal bridging. Some may have thought it was just more comfort batt...
Muy bueno kyle!!!!! Un abrazo desde Argentina!!!!!
Excellent demonstration!!
I used Zip on a 300 sq.ft. add on. After sheetrock was finished on a very cold day couldn't feel any air coming from the plug and light boxes. So it's not just about moisture, it really good at stopping air flow .
Great Job Kyle! Excellent Expose' of Your Excellent Process !!
This was awesome and fun to watch! Thanks for using your lapel mic instead of using room audio - great sound! Nice work Kyle and Greg!
Another excellent and educational video kyle!
Another great video. You never disappoint.
KYLE, you’re such a Pro. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great job Kyle! Very good thorough content for promoting building science. I look forward to building my own barndo in the future.
It seems like many of those people have never heard of your channel or have watched your videos which surprises me. I'm surprised that you didn't plug your channel but I guess that wouldn't be a good thing in that setting. I'm also amazed how well you speak in front of others and it shows in your videos. That's a talent that I don't have. I'm not a public speaker but wish I had those skills.
Consider joining a local Toastmasters club. You'll gain that skill and many more. Also, you will make new friends too! Google them.✌🏼
Very informative. Great job !!
Great presentation.
Going to use Rockwool on our 40x40 addition.
Kyle- Excelelnt dissertation on the insulating factors. I'll be in touch for our new shops / hanger facility...taking it to another level...
Well done Kyle!
Hey. @RRBuildings
rockwool is a really good product, but can easily be replaced with wood fiber insulation.
it is more climate-friendly, and can absorb and release any moisture that may occur in the wall.
They have the same anti-flammability.
Greetings from a Danish viewer
As I understand it, the US only has one wood fiber insulation manufacturer and they just start red d shipping recently after buying a closed papermill in Maine or somewhere up that way. Wood fiber is cool stuff, but like everything else, the US is slow on the uptake compared to Europe. What's really sad is how our builders will continue to use inferior solutions long after a superior one hits the market. Almost as though they willfully stopped learning upon building their first building.
@@josephhfry rockwool has a large market share, it is also what is used most over here in Northern Europe. in 5-10 years it will be wood fiber insulation I'm sure.
@@Rasmus_Pedersen understood. It's an awesome product and more versatile than just about anything else (foundations, underslab, roof, walls, anywhere you might use foam). Wood fiber won't be quite so versatile, but should be cheaper and has lower embodied energy.
Awesome video Kyle. Lots of great insulation tips and information. Very educational. I've learned a lot from your videos. We have slowly been updating our house and updating our insulation as well. Rockwool for the win. Very easy to use.
diggin' the stage display. Hey Kyle great presentation. just a thought...toss those bricks of insulation to the audience and let them pass them around. I dont imagine many people have seen it.... and it engages the audience. it could promote discussion and facility dialogue.
and Kyle is always "Johnny on the spot"!!
it costs more to install the rockwool but you only have to install it once and the savings you get from your electric and gas bill will pay for the product in 10-15 years.
It doesn’t cost more than spray foam at all
Good Morning Kyle and Greg!
Morning!
Impressive how you broke it down in the demonstration, the old way versus the new improved way...
Y'all did a very good job of explaining your process of building I've been a follower for a few years now and I'm a old stick frame contractor if I were to start building a two story building your process all the way. A single story I would stick frame two bye six on twenty four inch centers but your foundations are the best on a post frame I see some sinking their posts in the ground I wouldn't do that the cost of repairs would be enormous thanks for sharing
Very good and informative video.
Good job fellas.
Great presentation rockwall is a superior product
Really a great video.
Damn boy... coming from a real A personality.... you're a REALLY good impromptu speaker!
lol I don’t feel like it… not a fan of public speaking
Well... you don't use a ton of filler and don't ramble. You seem quite confident and knowledgeable about what you're saying.
So...not sure how to end this comment.... @@RRBuildings
Flash and batt is super risky, especially without a proper vapor barrier on the inside in cold climates. The potential for condensation on the foam surface with only 2" of foam is very high in cold climates. I believe that is what happened with the Mr post frame house.
Great video
That’s pretty cool that you can demonstrate a more effective way to post frame with just a little 8 ft wall
Good stuff!
I think what sets Kyle apart from a lot of contractors today is he’s not afraid to try something new and especially continue to search for better quality. The majority of contractors are set in their ways and will not try a different product or another method because they are either afraid of learning something new or are just plain out stuck in their ways. Just because you’ve been building this way for 30+ years doesn’t mean it’s “correct”, best or the end all, be all. Us contractors get very complacent, whereas, we should always strive for something better.
And he always seems willing to admit when he was wrong or that there is a better way
@@daryldavirro4237 for sure. He’s open minded and in this field that just isn’t very common. I understand a customer has a budget and it’s up to the contractor to appease that budget but that structure also carries the name of the company who built it so, personally I would push for more premium options.
If you aren’t learning you’re dying
@@RRBuildings big facts there buddy.
Hi guys - thanks for all you do and selflessly sharing your details, tip, tricks. Kyle, at about 27:20 you state the thermal bridging of post frame at 1%. I know you were going to have engineers look at calculating that, is that a verified %? As an architect, I’d love to be able to share this with potential clients in regard to the benefits of post frame. Meanwhile keep the content coming, I’m disappointed when I don’t see a new vid on my feed!
Good job.
Hey Kyle! You mentioned it towards the beginning about building the house as tight as possible and then regulating, conditioning, and filtering the air that is coming into the house. What does that process look like, what equipment is used, and what trade installs that equipment? Is that a process you will use in your shop, or does having large overhead doors negate the benefits of having that system? Thanks!
Greg seems like such a good guy and kinda shy. My advice to Greg... and it has worked for many people.... instead of the old adage of picturing the audience in their underwear, picture them all taking a poop. Would love to see Greg shine as much as Kyle.
Doing God's job, Sir! God bless!
Will there be testing that shows where the dew point is in this “designed” wall assembly? Would be interesting to see how the double air barrier works with moisture drive and wind.
Wait... what? Did you say Greg HAUSE? Any relation to the RUclipsr who does Concrete with the Hauses? THAT would be kind of cool, wouldn't it? Nice job on this presentation, btw. I love your builds... and if I was planning on doing something like what you do, your channel is a great one to learn from. Sometimes, not having plans like that, you get a little too stuck in the details for me and I'll sort of skim through those parts. I love this dream shop build - it's absolutely beautiful and fun to watch. Thanks for sharing all of this with us.
Great talk!!! But this was funny ... around 15:45 you talk about house-wrap applied with the logo upside-down. At the same time in the background the WeatherLogic logo on the small bottom-left sheet is also upside-down ... :-)
Because it is printed both ways on a sheet so it’s always upside down and upside right!! Lol
Hey Kyle, this was great info, thank you! Probably cant answer here on a YT video, but ive got an pole building with book shelf cross members and insulation between it and the metal, we get alot of sweating, how can i retro fit/repair this? So, from the outside, metal sheeting-insulation-2x6 bookshelf cross members
Kyle, best practices for supporting sheet rock using your demo bay sizes and semi-rigid Rockwool batts?
Great video, On your sheathing what product is that and what are you putting on top of it? You said you got a fifty year warranty buy using those two products. If someone was removing the outside covering and replacing the glass wool with Rock Wool product and put those two on after wards would that be a good design. I would use a liquid applied to seal the bottom of the concrete to the sheathing. Does LP sell a two inch insulated sheet?
I would really appreciate it if you or lp weather logic would pay an engineer to calculate one of your barndos with just metal skin and same frame with weather logic. Seems like that would really strengthen it.
Let me ask the bleachers: Do you all overlap your foundation wall a few inches with your outer wall sheathing, or but it up? If you over lap, do you add anything to keep the back side of the wood off of the concrete? I've seen both methods done.
All the videos I've seen him do, he always has the girt on top of the concrete not in front, if that helps.
@@daryldavirro4237 Yeah I've noticed with Kyle's method that is the only option due to the width of the foundation wall. I guess my question would be in cases where the wall studs and foundation wall are flush, like in a stick frame home. Appreciate the reply though.
@@justakidfrombrooklyn1517 in that case I would tape the bottom edge that will contact the concrete. Any trim tape that will prevent moisture from getting into the wood.
@@TheeEccentricEd Agreed. Appreciate the reply.
What is the layering process if not using the weather logic sheeting but still using rockwool? I understand it’s the best total system but looking for something better than your before without the sheeting cost. Is Metal/house wrap/rockwool/ then vapor ok? Or do you need the siga system?
Would have loved to see all the questions you got after the video wrap up.
Like how you say I would never use spray foam in my house then proceeds to say I used spray foam in my house. Spray foam is great. I also use rockwool insulation too.
Is weatherlogic offered in an insulated version like zip-r?
What’s the name of the white wrapping?
Would love to be able to use Weatherlogic (or Zip) for my new resto project...but alas, its not available in the UK.... 😢😆
hey you should try to incorporate greg more into the speaking it will help him build his confidence doing this stuff
that is fine but it is not what he wants to do. I have to talk him into standing up there with me in the first place. I want him to be a part of it even if it is just being there. he also stuck around and after the demo talked with all the people and answered there questions.
@@RRBuildingsok cool. he will get used to it eventually. public speaking is scary i would be really nervous too
@rrbuildings Kyle dont think you understand thermal looping. Rock wool has more ability to thermal loop than spray foam. Thermal loops occur when air goes from hot to cold in a cavity and continues to loop because of the difference in temperature. Air can pass through rock wool not spray foam. So you can have looping in rockwool. On the other hand as you described the air space between the spray foam in the wall cavity yes ill give you technically you could have thermal looping in that air space, not the same as looping between inside and outside temperatures. Its about or less equivalent to the thermal looping of your rookwool wall surface and the air in the room. In fact you could even consider the air space in the foam wall additional r value.
I would say that if you had to remove spray foam and re spray it you may need a new insulation company. They should not be spraying in conditions that will cause defects in the finished product.
Ill put a properly sprayed building at the same r-value against any other insulation method any day. It will out perform any batt or blow r for r and most at 1/2 the r-value.
Personally im not bashing rockwool as ive been looking into using it. What yall did in your building is better than most houses are built today.
Also rockwool is not as hydrophobic as you think. Just drop a piece in water, like 1/4” deep on a plate and see how far the rockwool wicks the water? Intentionally put some water behind some rockwool like it’s leaking in a window in a cold climate and tell me how long it takes to dry on it’s own? Also no way is rockwool under a slab not going to be wet, which equals less thermally efficiencies. Throw a piece of plastic wrap on the rockwool in water and you should get condensation on the inside of the plastic, i did.
One last thing the furniture, carpet, your bed and pillows and clothes are as or more toxic than new spray foams unless those things are 100% organic and cotton or natural fiber. About the only natural non toxic thing in construction anymore is a 2x or a nail, even nails have toxic vinyl or glue in most cases. Rockwool has some sort of binder in it doesn’t it?
Fell free to dm me.
You aren’t understanding my thoughts on why spray foam has more thermal looping in the wall cavity… that’s because walls aren’t filled with it in post frame just a few inches of the cavity leaving tons of air space to move around.
Yes smart board
What’s the difference between the weather guard vs zip system ?
37:50 MR POSTFRAME takin a peek!
I saw that too
Where can I buy the SIGA products that you show?
My building supplier does not carry them.
We are in Dubuque Iowa.
Thank you
A Couple of Videos ago when the Siga VP came by the jobsite and mentioned the Supplier/s that can ship any product in the US.
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂😉😉😉😉😉😬😬😬😬🤐🤐🤔 well that just says it all way too bring the new beginning of the way things should be to have the new technology presented to the builders and give them the opportunity to make the choice to reach out and have better skills with a better understanding of newer products that are way way way better we appreciate your time and demonstration thank you for taking us on this new journey we really appreciate it can't wait to see the next episode keep teaching we're here to learn and take it to the next level just as you say until the next one🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸
What is the tape from Switzerland called?
Siga Fentrim
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When the hats coming back?
Hello everyone, 👍🔨
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Y'all taking on apprentices to come learn on site?
What kinda tape is that?
Bud, isn't that just Huber's ZIP system?
Could have just turned the not rotating casters sideways and it would have spun easy lol.
Anyone else see Mrpost frame in the background at 38:00...lol
Hello 👋
Breathing is exchanging oxygen in and carbon dioxide out through the lungs. He says "a house doesn't breathe or you need an exorcist", but if your house doesn't exchange carbon dioxide for oxygen(Mostly the definition of breathing) you are dead. Weather your house breathes with an HRV or with a little fresh air through infiltration (Breathing) is required. HRV units are not all sunshine and rainbows for the customer. They require maintenance and expense costing well above the cost of letting A LITTLE fresh air into the house in exchange for oxygen(Breathing) naturally. These builders have become infiltration phobic not taking into account the cost and hassle to the customer of an HRV ERV through the years as compared to strategic planning on letting a small amount of fresh air in through infiltration. Not trying to bash on this builder though. He seems like he is one of the best.
The problem with blow in insulation is settling over time.!?
9:55 Greg looking like a total snack, with that smoking hot body!!!! 😝😝🔥🔥🔥
"If a a building breathes, call an exorcist!" ...never take construction advise from a guy who builds refrigerators for a living, is all I have to say about that. If it doesn't, you'll never reach the potential lifespan of the building, not to mention the comfort of living in it, while it's there. You really need to check out some more bio materials, not knocking your tapes etc., but foam, fiberglass, rockwool... none of if works well with wood. And the proof is in the pudding. At one point or another, they all become water retentive. And then you're screwed. Not so with a woodfiber batt. It'll always dry out like the stud next to it.
I grew up with rockwool, and. it's not a year ago I last used it, so I know it very well, believe me - I just have to see the truck drive by for it to start itching and break out in red spots all over. It's not ideal for wood construction. The moisture properties are too different from wood. Mold and mildew are no strangers to Rockwool, or rather, the wood next to it... sorry. But it's not a magic bullet, although far superior in some applications, than others, like for instance a buildup roof on a concrete deck. But not with wood.
The problem with all of the engineered products is that they're designed with a limited lifespan. The ages of buildings built out of oak, clay, slate etc., you'll NEVER achieve with any engineered membrane, simply because, just like a vacuum bag, at some point or another, it's going to get clogged. And then that's the end of it.
And no. There's no way you're going to sell me a Yeti cooler home! 😂😁😉 ...Yeti cooler, sure. But not for anyone or anything to survive, much less thrive in.
Next time you go to Europe, look up some of the old half-timbered buildings, get in touch with some of the clay and straw building societies. I guarantee it will blow your mind, just how different you sense a building from all of the artificial crap. We're doing it wrong, I'm telling you.
The guy is obviously very talented at what he does and he loves it but he's a total snooze fest giving demos.
много болтовни. думал что то нового будет. ты меня разочаровал Кайл 😴
Не все его канал смотрят
Cringe. This is just a big advertisement for products.
Funny you say that. This whole thing cost me money.. both to travel here, get materials, take my time, and pay Greg and a video guy to be here. All to make zero dollars…. Hard to educate people about what we are doing to bring the industry forward without talking about the products and methods used. Your comment was the cringy part dude.