This is possibly the best Terminator X install video out there. I learned as much from your mistakes as I did from your successes. Great camera work, especially on the oil pressure sender. Having your car’s wiring exposed like you have really made it easy to see where the wires went. Thanks again.
I have worked with a Holley Sniper on my 66 El Camino and I am getting ready to do the Terminator on my 72 C10 (has an LS). What you just did there was almost identical to the crazy crap I get into in my shop. I think I was turning blue holding my breath until I heard the engine fire off! No other feeling like it! ...well, almost.
bought a truck wirth a 5.3 and terminator x max in it, but not complete in parts, this really helped to understand the set up, old school guy, was my first time with a Ls swap thanks, best help I have had
Great video. I’m starting my install on my Turbo Silverado tomorrow! I wish mine would be as simple as yours but it’s still a full interior vehicle. Glad to see it went smooth. Im of the same opinion as you about wiring….
Excellent video! My 57 will be running the Terminator X for sure! I love how simple the system is, installation and you did a great job doing it like everyone will be doing, backyard style with human error. Keep the good work Ken!
I wanna do this for my 72 chevelle elco but will i have to use that screen or is there a way to wirebit to my dash so i have all the stock gage reading working
Thanks for sharing. Found your channel at the right time. Im installing the Terminator X Into a 502 Ram jet crate motor. I am as nervous about it as you were.
Just some friendly advice. Be careful jamming a multimeter probe in a connector pin. It will stretch the pin and cause terminal fretting and u will have intermittent electrical issues. But other than that great video man I was excited to see the car bust off
Awesome video. Thanks. LC9 swap into our 69 Galaxie Convertible. We are having crank rpm issue where it is not showing crank rpm. Engine runs but were not there yet but close!
Thanks you literally help me finally turn my truck on after 2 years ! Been waiting about 8 months on mechanics that said they will finish up the wiring for me watched this video and did it myself and now it’s running . By any chance did you make a video wiring up the transmission harness or you haven’t done it yet?
This is literally why I made this video! So glad you were able to use it to get your truck running! We’ve not yet swapped transmissions yet, but when we do we’ll be sure to include the Terminator harness details as well. 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage yes very much appreciated!! Saved me time and money! . Even without the transmission control installed your able to drive the car or no?
@@floridashitglee9387 Oh we’ve driven it thousands of miles without it. The TH350 doesn’t require the controller and the Terminator is fine if it’s not plugged in. 👍🏻
Hey Spyder! Great video, it really cleared up a couple concerns I had however I still have questions. In the manual, I may have skipped or over read somehow, but I don’t see where it talks about wiring to the starter or alternator. Could you please shed some light on this topic?
I love it very nice I feel a little better you made it very helpful now I can make up my mine thanks so much for sharing my question can I use a painless wire harness with it that has fuses and start up switch for a race car Gauges and lights or street race car
Can you do a video on the starter wiring? Wired up my terminator and the only issue I have is no rpm signal.... no crank, no start. It's driving me insane
Where did you pull from for starter exciter wire? Said you’d cover it first minute of video and don’t see it mentioned at all. Also don’t see any mention about alternator.
If I got the terminator x max ls1 24x (550-919) am I restricted ls1 motors or am I able to go any 5.3 4.8 6.0 with the system ? Got it for a steal on market place lol thanks in advance haven’t gotten a clear answer
How did you go with the injector selection in the end? I’m about to purchase the 550-903 Unit for my LS1. I have the same injectors as yourself but can’t find any information on them and Holley doesn’t have the specifications either.
You mentioned the grounds on the back of the heads. The heads are aluminum so shouldn't you be putting the ground on the block? For all I know this is a stupid question but I do know the heads are aluminum.
None of your gauge cluster would work other than maybe fuel level. With an auto transmission, you can have the holley control that and the handheld screen will display all of that, but its small. Its expensive but Dakota Digital makes gauges that would replace the stock gauges and interfaces off of the holley giving you all the readouts your old dash has. Highly recommend but its like $1K+ i think.
Did you ever get the actual data for the GM 12555894 injectors. I am just about to install this xmax with the exact same engine setup you have in this video. If you have can you share?
Awesome video thank you very much. How did connect your fans im having trouble understanding this part. Also one thing you might have missed to let us know is that the terminator x for some reason doesn’t come with a connection to alternator.
Yeah I had originally gone very detailed into that part of the dual fan setup but the video got too long, plus that wiring harness wasn’t technically part of the Terminator X kit either so I cut it out. As for the alternator, I briefly mention that there are 11 pages included in the manual regarding how to hook up your alternator and I explain it as well as I can, to include the resistor.
For the moment, it’s just off to the side because the plan was to always install an electronically controlled 4L60e. But I’ve seen guys who have retrofitted their throttle bracket to accommodate a kick-down cable as well.
Great video! Where the MAT sensor connects into the intake at 5:34 do you have a part number or could anyone point me in direction I need to find something similar to that size grommet? Thanks
What’s up question. I brought a 1986 Chevy caprice with LS swap. Terminator x max lights never lit up hand held comes on. VVS not plugged in nor speed plug. Will those not been plugged up cause the ecu not to communicate?
No those are not required in order for the ECU to work. Case-in-point: They’re not plugged in on our car either because we’re running a non-electronic TH350 transmission. When you say the lights didn’t come on, are you referring to the lights on the ECU itself?
@@SpyderGarage man for some reason I’m still not able to get power to the fuel pump- it’s a Holley in tank unit so it’s not that loud but damn I thought I would be able to hear it prime at least
@@SpyderGarage man I apologize. I tried posting this on the video before and I guess as it was changing videos it put it on this one instead lol. Sorry nice build though
@@Frogg1517 You can get Holley’s 7” Digital Dash to show fuel level, turn signals, brights, gauges, etc. but you’ll need the following to get you going. www.holley.com/products/gauges_and_gauge_accessories/digital_displays_and_touchscreens/parts/558-432 documents.holley.com/199r10954rev2.pdf www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/gauges_and_displays/lcd_displays/parts/558-433 documents.holley.com/199r10746rev1.pdf
Lol. Umm… yes, but I mention it because it’s a choice you have to make. You can use it so long as you’re using a stock style fuel pump that doesn’t require more than 15 amps. (Also, run it to the “grey” wire and not the purple as I incorrectly did the first time)!😉
For the video, I ran a longer wire to it from the rear mounted battery, but otherwise, it’s just hooked up like normal. (I even noted in the video how I accidentally knocked that wire loose)
Hi. I’m about to pull the trigger on the same system for my 1998 LS1 with 4L60E. Do you have the part number please. 550 916 is the one I’m looking at. Also. Do I need to get the injector harness separate or does it come with the kit ? Thanks for your time. Great informative video.
As long as you have the stock Bosch EV1 injectors, then yes, the 550-916 is the correct part #. And yes, you will need to purchase a separate injector harness for those style injectors. It doesn’t come with the Terminator kit because injector choice varies so much between cars that Holley keeps the kits separate.
@@SpyderGarage cool! Would my factory gauges on my cluster still work, tach. Speedo. Fuel gauge oil pressure gauge? Or would it all be shown on the little touch screen that comes with it?
Can you still use the terminator x max wiring and have it still plug into dash? For example if you have oil pressure hooked up to the terminator x max but you don’t use the terminator x gauge thing can you still have it going to a different dash?
If I’m understanding the question, yes, you can install a T-fitting for a mechanical gauge underneath the Holley pressure transducer that feeds the CAN (handheld) or you can splice the wires and feed a separate electronic oil pressure gauge. But doing that will void Holley’s warranty.
@@SpyderGarage gotcha. Just asking because I got a neat little cluster and would like to be able to reuse the stuff like coolant temp, mph, voltage, oil pressure, and fuel %. It’s a jegs electric dash cluster thing. Also wouldn’t a T fitting cause it to read oil pressure half of what it is or just off? Might just have to deal with it lol or just not hook up oil pressure to the terminator. Rather see it on my cluster than in the data log imo
@@SpyderGarage also how’s it still going with the terminator x? I’m looking into getting the terminator X Max for ease of tuning and for when I eventually wanna go with some turbos. Still just something to think about and do some more research about. But what’s your opinions after a few months of it still?
@@SpyderGarage that’s awesome I think imma order within the next month or two and install it this winter in my 2nd Gen camaro. Along with paint and bodywork lol. My only thing is just getting used to it but from what I’ve heard it’s 10x easier than hp tuners
This is possibly the best Terminator X install video out there. I learned as much from your mistakes as I did from your successes. Great camera work, especially on the oil pressure sender. Having your car’s wiring exposed like you have really made it easy to see where the wires went. Thanks again.
Yes thank you.
even idiots can make progress with wiring these things, if they persist. lol. persistence always pays off.
That real excitement when it started was the best part of this whole video. Made me smile for sure.
I have worked with a Holley Sniper on my 66 El Camino and I am getting ready to do the Terminator on my 72 C10 (has an LS). What you just did there was almost identical to the crazy crap I get into in my shop. I think I was turning blue holding my breath until I heard the engine fire off! No other feeling like it! ...well, almost.
I really appreciate the reality of your video. That is the way it really goes.
The best terminator x install I've seen thank you guys for doing it. Really helped my build
I like this video because it like a everyday person doing the job and that feel when it crank up always
bought a truck wirth a 5.3 and terminator x max in it, but not complete in parts, this really helped to understand the set up, old school guy, was my first time with a Ls swap thanks, best help I have had
That’s awesome! Glad it helped. 👍🏻
Getting ready to do this on my '74 Jimmy, LOVE THE VIDEO!!!!!
Great video. I’m starting my install on my Turbo Silverado tomorrow! I wish mine would be as simple as yours but it’s still a full interior vehicle. Glad to see it went smooth. Im of the same opinion as you about wiring….
Thank you so much for this video. You are awesome
I've never been so stoked 🙌 to hear a Monza fire up. 🤘
Excellent video! My 57 will be running the Terminator X for sure! I love how simple the system is, installation and you did a great job doing it like everyone will be doing, backyard style with human error. Keep the good work Ken!
Appreciate that! Yeah, we don’t hide our mistakes around here, nor do we pretend to know more than we do. 😅
I wanna do this for my 72 chevelle elco but will i have to use that screen or is there a way to wirebit to my dash so i have all the stock gage reading working
Thanks dude, I'm hoping to start mine foe the first time this week!!
I found myself clapping with you when it fired. Awesome.
Good info I've been hesitant to do my ls3 in a 72 Chevelle with the x max but that helps
Watching the video I pretty excited to see your car fire up as well lol😂
Thank you for this. I’m learning bought the kit still need to put the motor in my chevelle
Great Video! Give me less anxiety for when I install my unit in the next couple weeks...thx!
Thanks for sharing. Found your channel at the right time. Im installing the Terminator X Into a 502 Ram jet crate motor. I am as nervous about it as you were.
Welcome to the channel! You’ve got this! 💪🏻
Well Done, big Victory
Thank you this is the best holley terminator x max video i have seen well explained!
Thank you very much 🙏🏻
Thanks for the video!
awesome!!! increíble Tks from Spain!!!
I think that handheld "cover" is actually a mounting cradle.
It can be slid both ways to act as a cover or a cradle, but admittedly I think you’re right. 😅
That look on your face when it started...like a kid on Xmas 🤣 Awesome video, thanks for uploading.
Thanks for an informative video, I'll be starting my journey soon with my 2000 Z28 L33 5.3 build
I like this video. Very well explained. Great job
@@ronaldlevingston31 Thank you 🙏🏻
I hope I get that same feeling of accomplishment you did on my swap, I was fist pumping the air with you
Thank you so much. Im hooking up my xmax now. I have been worried i will screw something up, so your video helps ease my mind.
That’s awesome! I’m glad it helped out your mind at ease. ☺️
Great video! Sure made that look easy!
Love your Monza! I have a 78 2+2 that I just bought a Term X+ for. Awesome!
Nice!
Such a great video, thank you for breaking it down for us.
Just some friendly advice. Be careful jamming a multimeter probe in a connector pin. It will stretch the pin and cause terminal fretting and u will have intermittent electrical issues. But other than that great video man I was excited to see the car bust off
Thank you, will definitely remember that. 👍🏻
You my friend just got another subscriber. I would have been bervous starting it too.
Fantastic video, thank you
Awesome video. Thanks. LC9 swap into our 69 Galaxie Convertible. We are having crank rpm issue where it is not showing crank rpm. Engine runs but were not there yet but close!
Thanks you literally help me finally turn my truck on after 2 years ! Been waiting about 8 months on mechanics that said they will finish up the wiring for me watched this video and did it myself and now it’s running . By any chance did you make a video wiring up the transmission harness or you haven’t done it yet?
This is literally why I made this video! So glad you were able to use it to get your truck running! We’ve not yet swapped transmissions yet, but when we do we’ll be sure to include the Terminator harness details as well. 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage yes very much appreciated!! Saved me time and money! . Even without the transmission control installed your able to drive the car or no?
@@floridashitglee9387 Oh we’ve driven it thousands of miles without it. The TH350 doesn’t require the controller and the Terminator is fine if it’s not plugged in. 👍🏻
Thanks for he video, finishing up a LS square body.. helped a lot
Thanks I have a little more confidence to do it
Awesome 👏🏻
Your fuel pressure should be 58. Great video.
Thank you. We still need to get a pressure transducer for fuel pressure. 😅
Excellent tutorial
Very inspiring - excellent video thank you so much!
Hey Spyder! Great video, it really cleared up a couple concerns I had however I still have questions.
In the manual, I may have skipped or over read somehow, but I don’t see where it talks about wiring to the starter or alternator. Could you please shed some light on this topic?
excellent video man
cool car, I had a 75 Monza 2+2 with a 262 and 4spd, swapped in a 350, wish i had kept it
sounds great
This was awesome.
Mate you did fucking awesome explaining this and mine went first go thanks to you putting in the hard work first.
@@JustinKnowles-d5j Awesome, that makes me feel good!
@SpyderGarage you're welcome mate keep up to content
Good stuff
Great vid.
Nice work!
I love it very nice I feel a little better you made it very helpful now I can make up my mine thanks so much for sharing my question can I use a painless wire harness with it that has fuses and start up switch for a race car Gauges and lights or street race car
I’m not sure I completely understand the question. Can you word it another way, with punctuation?
Can you do a video on the starter wiring? Wired up my terminator and the only issue I have is no rpm signal.... no crank, no start. It's driving me insane
Very good video my friend
Where did you pull from for starter exciter wire? Said you’d cover it first minute of video and don’t see it mentioned at all. Also don’t see any mention about alternator.
Thanks for the info
GOOD HELP G SHOT OUT FROM COMPTON CA STEP BY STEP GOOD DETAIL
Cool lil car
Great video
So the terminator can run your car accessories like lights and and stuff
No it cannot. It only manages your engine (& transmission if you get the X Max)
How would I wire the starter to the steering column?
Nice thanks 👌🏽👌🏽💪🏾
Love the video keep up the good work, quick question in your crank wire is same as ignition wire?
In this case, yes. Both are switched, cranking power. 👍🏻
Can you used oem gauge or the car gauge for display like speed and fuel capacity and such
The Term X doesn’t give you speed or fuel capacity so it won’t interfere with those stock factory functions at all.
Great video. I'm starting to install mine now. The one question I have is the optional wire for the IAC kickout. Where does the wire connect.
How was the starter and alternator hooked up?
Great Video, has been really helpful and Ive subbed , Thanks mate!
You’re very welcome ☺️
Great stuff Ken! Takes a lot of hassle out of an LS!
Thank you! And yes it does!
can i ask did you run you starter wire straight to the battery which was in your hand on start up ?
If I got the terminator x max ls1 24x (550-919) am I restricted ls1 motors or am I able to go any 5.3 4.8 6.0 with the system ? Got it for a steal on market place lol thanks in advance haven’t gotten a clear answer
Grats
How did you run your alternator wiring?
whats your starter and alternator setup?
@spyder garage
What is the the plug , your pointing at when talking about the accessorie input and out outs wire that are supplied
How did you go with the injector selection in the end? I’m about to purchase the 550-903 Unit for my LS1. I have the same injectors as yourself but can’t find any information on them and Holley doesn’t have the specifications either.
How will the transmission know when to shift or shift manually if theres is no harness connected to it
@@Naleeze Vacuum to the modulator. (We had to dial up the modulator a bit but it works)
You mentioned the grounds on the back of the heads. The heads are aluminum so shouldn't you be putting the ground on the block? For all I know this is a stupid question but I do know the heads are aluminum.
Our entire engine is aluminum actually, but either way, it’s still grounded. 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage I thought of that after but I figured I'd ask. Thanks bud.
this is probably a stupid question but what would happen to the dash, like speedometer and tachometer if I deleted the ecm in a gm and used holly efi?
None of your gauge cluster would work other than maybe fuel level. With an auto transmission, you can have the holley control that and the handheld screen will display all of that, but its small. Its expensive but Dakota Digital makes gauges that would replace the stock gauges and interfaces off of the holley giving you all the readouts your old dash has. Highly recommend but its like $1K+ i think.
Did you ever get the actual data for the GM 12555894 injectors. I am just about to install this xmax with the exact same engine setup you have in this video. If you have can you share?
Awesome video thank you very much. How did connect your fans im having trouble understanding this part. Also one thing you might have missed to let us know is that the terminator x for some reason doesn’t come with a connection to alternator.
Yeah I had originally gone very detailed into that part of the dual fan setup but the video got too long, plus that wiring harness wasn’t technically part of the Terminator X kit either so I cut it out. As for the alternator, I briefly mention that there are 11 pages included in the manual regarding how to hook up your alternator and I explain it as well as I can, to include the resistor.
Thanks so much❤❤❤ quick question what did u do about the kick down cable from transmission
For the moment, it’s just off to the side because the plan was to always install an electronically controlled 4L60e. But I’ve seen guys who have retrofitted their throttle bracket to accommodate a kick-down cable as well.
Great video! Where the MAT sensor connects into the intake at 5:34 do you have a part number or could anyone point me in direction I need to find something similar to that size grommet? Thanks
Which priceless wiring kit u get & which should i get for a 1988 chevy burn my original cab harness up
We used a Painless Kit #10403
What’s up question. I brought a 1986 Chevy caprice with LS swap. Terminator x max lights never lit up hand held comes on. VVS not plugged in nor speed plug. Will those not been plugged up cause the ecu not to communicate?
No those are not required in order for the ECU to work. Case-in-point: They’re not plugged in on our car either because we’re running a non-electronic TH350 transmission. When you say the lights didn’t come on, are you referring to the lights on the ECU itself?
So for clarity
Did that green fuel pump wire go to the gray wire on the pump after all?
Yes 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage man for some reason I’m still not able to get power to the fuel pump- it’s a Holley in tank unit so it’s not that loud but damn I thought I would be able to hear it prime at least
I’m confused. That wire says it needs to go to the coil negative?
Can you put a time stamp on where you got confused at? I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
@@SpyderGarage man I apologize. I tried posting this on the video before and I guess as it was changing videos it put it on this one instead lol. Sorry nice build though
Is there away to hook a fuel gauge through the terminator x
@@Frogg1517 No, that is wired separately
@@Frogg1517 You can get Holley’s 7” Digital Dash to show fuel level, turn signals, brights, gauges, etc. but you’ll need the following to get you going.
www.holley.com/products/gauges_and_gauge_accessories/digital_displays_and_touchscreens/parts/558-432
documents.holley.com/199r10954rev2.pdf
www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/gauges_and_displays/lcd_displays/parts/558-433
documents.holley.com/199r10746rev1.pdf
Great video, been thinking about getting one of those! Can you adjust timing? Kudos
Yup, you can even do it on the fly as you’re driving. 😉
Too cool! ❤
👍 nice
My terminator starts my car and turns off immediately won't stay running can't figure out issue
Is the transmission harness optional on the terminator max?
No, it comes with it 👍🏻
Wait so that green wire for the fuel pump powers the fuel pump?
Lol. Umm… yes, but I mention it because it’s a choice you have to make. You can use it so long as you’re using a stock style fuel pump that doesn’t require more than 15 amps. (Also, run it to the “grey” wire and not the purple as I incorrectly did the first time)!😉
Where did u get the grommet for your iat sensor??
Can’t remember, but I think not was an Amazon purchase.
When you used internal map are you using the stock map sensor or did you use the blue tube on the ecu
Stock
Are u using factory speedometer
No, we have aftermarket Stewart Warner gauges
Did u have to run a separate wiring for your starter how did u go about that
For the video, I ran a longer wire to it from the rear mounted battery, but otherwise, it’s just hooked up like normal. (I even noted in the video how I accidentally knocked that wire loose)
Hi. I’m about to pull the trigger on the same system for my 1998 LS1 with 4L60E. Do you have the part number please. 550 916 is the one I’m looking at. Also. Do I need to get the injector harness separate or does it come with the kit ? Thanks for your time. Great informative video.
As long as you have the stock Bosch EV1 injectors, then yes, the 550-916 is the correct part #. And yes, you will need to purchase a separate injector harness for those style injectors. It doesn’t come with the Terminator kit because injector choice varies so much between cars that Holley keeps the kits separate.
@@SpyderGarage thanks for the reply. Keep up the great videos. From England 🏴
So this eliminates the factory ecu right?
Yes sir 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage cool! Would my factory gauges on my cluster still work, tach. Speedo. Fuel gauge oil pressure gauge? Or would it all be shown on the little touch screen that comes with it?
Can you still use the terminator x max wiring and have it still plug into dash? For example if you have oil pressure hooked up to the terminator x max but you don’t use the terminator x gauge thing can you still have it going to a different dash?
If I’m understanding the question, yes, you can install a T-fitting for a mechanical gauge underneath the Holley pressure transducer that feeds the CAN (handheld) or you can splice the wires and feed a separate electronic oil pressure gauge. But doing that will void Holley’s warranty.
@@SpyderGarage gotcha. Just asking because I got a neat little cluster and would like to be able to reuse the stuff like coolant temp, mph, voltage, oil pressure, and fuel %. It’s a jegs electric dash cluster thing. Also wouldn’t a T fitting cause it to read oil pressure half of what it is or just off? Might just have to deal with it lol or just not hook up oil pressure to the terminator. Rather see it on my cluster than in the data log imo
@@SpyderGarage also how’s it still going with the terminator x? I’m looking into getting the terminator X Max for ease of tuning and for when I eventually wanna go with some turbos. Still just something to think about and do some more research about. But what’s your opinions after a few months of it still?
@@812racing Honest opinion, I’ll never do another car without one. We love it that much!
@@SpyderGarage that’s awesome I think imma order within the next month or two and install it this winter in my 2nd Gen camaro. Along with paint and bodywork lol. My only thing is just getting used to it but from what I’ve heard it’s 10x easier than hp tuners
What is install time for something like this?
For a first timer, I’d say a weekend. After you’ve done one or two, you can do it 4-6 hours.