I think out all the moms, Kelly was probably the less of an stage mom. She always said she wanted her kids to “grow up normal” and be well rounded people. Also she was not obsessed with being famous.
Judging by the state of Nia’s costumes, I can definitely agree that Holly was not much of a stage mom she threw them in a bag somewhere and left them in the attic. Compared to Jill, who literally has like a shrine to Kendall in their house. Melissa has a whole closet, dedicated completely to their old dance costumes. And Christi has her well organized.
It’s called Stockholm syndrome. You normalize your toxic environment to better survive it. Unfortunately, for JoJo, I think she’s becoming a product of her environment and repeating the cycle of abusers.
i think it’s wild that abby’s examples of christi’s “micro managing” are always having things prepared and dressing well as if she didn’t verbally abuse kids for not doing those things
@@milabenmimon6747 exactly! more often than not the mothers not being organised resulted in the kids being abused for it. christi def seems like the person to be very prepared when it comes to her kids but that isn’t inherently a bad quality especially when you know your kids gonna get the punishment if you don’t have her 100% ready.
@@badmanicpower idk why you’re comparing sophia’s trauma to jojo… i never said one was worse. the og comment was about jojo… and a 2 YEAR old baby having chemicals on their scalp….. pls-
@@saiana24 wasn’t replying to you babes. I was replying to the og comment saying Jessalynn was the worst. Also, if you would actually read my whole comment, I said “yeah that is awful” which is in no way denying that Jess was in fact awful
wow, that bit about Sophia Lucia's mom was shocking. It's such a pleasure to watch her dance but knowing what went into it is awful. Yolanda sounds deranged...I think Melissa and Christie were on par - they wanted what was best for their kids but neither of them knew what that meant in the context they were in. Jess 100% wanted to be Abby, she even made that series where she essentially recreated AUDC.
What series? Or just when she was trying to fill in for abby on the main series when abby wasnt there? Because that's not a separate series like this comment insinuates
Sitting on your kids and streching them for two hours every day until they cry is just straight up abuse. My heart breaks for Sofia... no wonder she didn't enjoy dancing!
It’s Christi admitting that she wanted the best for Chloe and went about the wrong way then immediately cutting to Abby saying that Christi was the one who was pressuring Chloe to win and making her be perfect like Abby wasn’t the one abusing children, especially and ADMITTEDLY Chloe, everyday.
I think Sophia’s mom is getting too much of a pass I would listen to Sophia’s personal podcast with her friend some of the things they put her through is frightening On top of the stretching her mom also would make her swim for an hour before going to dance and they heavily restricted food from her. That’s only scathing the service so much stuff happened
Didn't Spohia also have an eating disorder as a teen? While I'm not saying all parents of children with EDs cause them, the heavy food restrictions and perfectionism Sophia's mother forced her to have such a young age DEFINITELY contributed to hers
Sophia also says that she doesn’t really blame her mom. She says they were advised from dance teachers to do every extreme thing they did and that her mom wasn’t in the industry enough to understand how extreme it was. In the podcast they say that her mom just happened to realize her daughter was a prodigy and she wanted to help her as much as possible. Regardless of whom it is to blame (probably every adult involved there) I think they really failed her. No child should ever be that overworked. There is a reason if none of the kids from dance moms (except some from season 8) pursued dancing as a career. It used to be their dream but none of them Is dancing professionally now. Dancing during childhood should be free from pressure and competitiveness, but rather educational
@@federicaf1994whats scary os how Sophia’s mom acted like the nicest mom in dm and it gives me a creepy feeling of how we truly don’t know someone for all we know it was an act she put to hide the abuse Sophia went through 😮
If someone said get the f out to my 4 year old or any 4 year old I would probably react like Kira. It doesn’t matter the age of the workers age either.
Holly and Evan let Nia follow her dream. She finished high school online, worked with the Obamas, and got a dream job at the Winter Olympics in South Korea. Oh, and it’s rumored that Jill played a huge role on why Nia and others didn’t go on the Irreplaceable tour.
@@marilyn1984 no she wasn’t. She was supposed to be but before the group left, Nia and Holly posted a. Video that said they wouldn’t be able to go. A video circulated on a rehearsal but it no longer exist so I won’t discuss it. I covered Dance moms.
@@HM-cq2rv Neither Carmyn or Nia did the tour. Go watch the videos. It’s only Christi/Chloe, Jill/Kendall, and Kira/Kalani. And the tour was still running while Nia was helping cover the Winter Olympics for NBC.
@@HM-cq2rv I didn’t see my reply to you. Carmryn was the first to leave. Nia also left. I actually got a link to Nia’s exit but it has since disappeared so I won’t discuss it. Nia a Be Holly did a video where they told all that circumstances had happened and changed their circumstances. Shortly after that, Nia and her family went to the Olympics and Nia did some reporting for a kid channel and NBC. Then Mia did Bold and Beautiful.
I think Jess and JoJo have had more success then some other cast members because they went in to Dance Moms asnit was a TV show. The OG girls started the show as a documentary of sorts. Their focus was on the dance competition. Jess and JoJo went in with a different focus, making the drama and fallouts easier to compartmentalize
This is so true. It was even mentioned in one of the episodes (don’t remember which) where one of the moms said how Jojo wasn’t there because she wanted to dance, but because she wanted to be a Kardashian.
Melissa being a stage mom should’ve been more highlighted. She was a snake and sabotaged several kids. She would do any and everything to get Maddie ahead.
I don't have proof of this, but I heard a rumor that someone saw Sofia Lucia's mom at a dance competition yanking a strawberry out of her mouth or something because it has sugar in it. Her mom is a fitness model and looks like she placed that intense pressure on Sofia. I think Sofia is in recovery from an eating disorder and I think her mom is to blame. It's child abuse.
*Christi admitted on her podcast with Kelly that she pushed Chloe way harder than shown on Dance Moms. Kelly even chimed in that Christi's compplaining about Chloe's costumes and choreography drove her crazy*
@@N84Lyfe girl be quiet it has a lot to be with Maddie because if Maddie had something better when she went against Chloe Christi complained about it so it has a lot to do with Maddie
@@kaidyer8761it wasnt about just about Maddie or not at all it was about Abby and her continue favoritism .. Abby’s studio was going bankrupt in the end because she couldn’t keep her business and affairs together. It was all that narcissistic loser Abby
Yolanda and Jess are definitely the top stage moms of DM. They both did so many toxic things and pushed the girls to collaborate with straight toxic people in the name of fame (interestingly both with toxic RUclipsrs). Kristie Rae. Watch literally ANY of Raising Asia. Ashlee Melissa Jill Christie. Kira Holly and Kelly (not really stage moms but had a few stage mom moments)
@chestnut45134 honestly, it's because she wasn't there for more than like 2 3 episodes that I didn't include her. She is clearly a stage mom but doesn't really seem to be on the level of a Yolanda or Jess. Probably closer to Ashlee without being as obviously crazy on camera.
@chestnut45134 A lot of dancers “sit” or put their foot on the backs of other dancers to help them with their stretches. If Jackie was crazy stage mom she would’ve kept Sophia on the show to get her ahead but she didn’t cause she didn’t want her child in toxic environments.
i would love a video deep diving sophia’s dance career and what went into it behind the scenes. i know that’s like, dance moms adjacent, but i think you’d do it well
According to Abby, Kristie was a sloppy drunk AND a micro-managing perfectionist. Which is it?? She contradicts herself regarding the moms with whatever narrative fits the moment. Abby also said “Melissa was the one that didn’t want holly and Nia in Australia with us”… like Abby ever gave a crap what the moms wanted, thought, felt, or preferred That clip of Lillie dipping Ellie was PRECIOUS!!!
I did see christi putting too much pressure on Chloé. I am proud that she did/does regret it. I do believe Ashley and Brynn that jess was rude to them.
@@N84Lyfe But then in Brynn's podcast they mentioned that the Jill and Ashlee drama was all fake cause Brynn always hung out with Jill and Kendall and Kendall always hanging out with Ashlee and Brynn but then Jess was ACTUALLY rude to Ashlee and Brynn not just fake for the show like Jill and Ashlee.
@@ilvenia_yes I always reference Brynn’s podcast with Ashlee ! It’s the fact that Ashlee herself confirmed that only mother that actually didn’t want her there is jessalyn🙁
I was a collegiate swimmer. During the peak of competition season, we would train up to 25-30 hours a week. It absolutely killed my body as a 18/19/20 year-old college student. I had chronic back & shoulder pain from the intensive training. Hearing that a seven year-old is training for 25 hours a week is absolutely shocking. I understand that a child could have a true passion for dance, but is all of that training, at such a young age, really worth it? Especially when it comes at the expense of their childhood?
I agree that 7 (and even 9 which is when I hit 20-25 hr weeks) is too young. Unfortunately, intense training like this is fairly typical in the dance world, especially the ballet world. I was hitting 5-8 hour days training/rehearsing by the time I was 16, and was doing school work on top of that. I'm glad for the career I have because of it, but that kind of training definitely left its mark.
This video was very insightful, but the one thing I thought was a bit weird was that you seemed to suggest that Kira was entitled for causing a fuss about the employee. Kira has done plenty of entitled things both on and off the show, but getting someone fired for cursing at her 4 year old is not one of them. If you are incapable of being pleasant with literal toddlers, you simply can't be working in customer service.
That's not entitled behavior at all, in my opinion. I would have freaked out too if someone said that to my child. If I could, I definitely would have gotten them fired. That's just not okay behavior.
At 10:57 I completely agree with Kira no worker should be swearing that is so unprofessional especially at a customer and HE was 4 he wasn’t understanding of what was going on.
I imagine Jill was more for tv sake like what we saw of her was more to do with the fact that she was playing a role or that production staged or made certain scenes look worse than what it was I mean Jill after the show was over made Kendall return to school because she had missed 10 years of schooling and that she wanted her to have an education before anything else which is very un stage mum like
@@lisa-pk4cd Yeah but she’s still not 100% honest abt what happened on the show. Like the time she sued the moms she still to this day says that was fake yet all of the moms vividly remember getting the letter from the lawyer they all shared.
My jaw literally dropped hearing all of this. Like…What. The. Fuck. How can these mothers treat their children this way and live with themselves? Like, that’s your CHILD. How do they not feel ashamed?
You should have included the part where Jess specifically said that she intentionally left Brynn and Ashlee out, and purposely bullied Brynn. (In her podcast) She’s probably the only mom that wasn’t sorry for her actions, even though Jill did said some things to Brynn. At least Brynn and Ashlee knew it was for drama.
Me when another masterpiece pops out ❤ I’ve always taken the show as a lot of produced drama but Yolanda genuinely scared me. She was manipulative towards Elli, abusive and overall just not a good person. More than anyone, she’s scared me. I fear for Elli and I truly hope she’s as safe as possible. Love this community too.
the worst moms: jackie lucia (video should've been enough) yolanda (forced elliana to stretch until she cried like sophia, abuse allegations, clearly exploiting her on social media and had her join pipers squad which is a whole other rabbit hole) jess (should be kinda obvious at this point, jojo didn't have a chance at a normal childhood. jess wanted her famous the minute she was out of the womb) quinn sisters mom (she was barely on the show but she clearly pimps out coco similar to how elliana is)
My kids danced with a couple of those kids on occasion and was friendly terms with them. They were nice kids. One of the kid’s parents searched her kid’s mouth in front of everyone to check if she ate a strawberry! But she wasn’t the craziest. We knew kids whose parents had them on very restrictive diets- everyone knew it. We saw kids in the studio day in day out even at a young age. Kids would be doing photoshoots in the cold or the extreme heat, and late into the night. Moms would say rude things to other kids before they went on stage to freak them out. Really crazy and extreme behavior was not normalized by Dance Moms; the dance world was already broken. The extreme behavior was not unique to the dance moms show by any means. We have known kids who danced when they didn’t want to, several who ended up hospitalized due to heart and bone issues due to malnourishment. The darkest thing my kids ever observed I won’t write here but the studio in question knows what it is. It starts as an innocent endeavor but at the highest levels gets very dark. Dance Moms just profited off of drama that was already going on.
Great video, but I don’t think Kira was entitled when that employee said that to her child. I would have tried to keep calm, but I don’t blame her her tbh
Also, it was COVID and the employee probably told them multiple times to wear a mask or leave. Like, I'm not putting my life at risk for a Karen. I got COVID twice and it felt like I was dying, so I don't blame the employee.
@@PGOumaThank You !! Like I’m pretty sure it was required that they all have masks to go inside so why would she not bring enough masks ? It makes no sense to me
@@PGOuma If they felt like they were in danger they should have left or quit since their work place does not value health. Also don't come at me, they need that job to pay bills, bc minimum wage jobs barely cover it now a days.
She doesn't look like she's 29 whatsoever. I swear people will see a teenage girl with some makeup and automatically claim she looks older than her age 💀
Abby was created in this narrative that Chloe a Subpar second rate dancer to the public. And Christi pushed Chloe so Abby’s narrative wouldn’t win 🏆 now she regrets playing into Abby‘s narrative. Desperate to prove Abby wrong 😑. instead of just encouraging Chloe to have fun 🤩
Absolutely. In my opinion, Christi is the second best mom - after Kelly. They got their kids out as soon as possible, and they never abused them. Christi, being a bit pushy, isn't abuse, and Kelly wasn't abusive at all.
Please do an uncovered on all the reboots. Abby/Brandon TV’s “Madhouse,” Abby’s “Season 9/Dance with Me”, Lifetime’s OG Reunion, and the Dance Moms reboot with Studio Bleu that’s slated for either cable or streaming
It is really hard for me to believe that any of og moms, even Melissa, would call a kid "ugly". My guess is that this is just another of Abby's lies. Since Hannah was there when Abby said/lied that, I will say that I felt very sorry for Hannah during her time on DM, but now I see that she supports this child abuser, so I feel really disappointed in her.
Putting lots of pressure on your child is probably the worst thing you can do, like, you're just gonna freak your child out, and I don't think that makes a kid want to dance
$20 says the oreo mom was Jill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ swear to god. Idk if the actress claims it was christi or not?? But Jill has also been confirmed not to allow Kendall to have sugar as a kid
I think at times, Christi did apply pressure on Chloe, but it seems like that her heart was in the right place. She wanted her daughter to be herself. The only person Chloe had to prove to was herself. Abby was the real micromanager, always in that crazy mindset that Maddie had to live to HER expectations. At least she held herself accountable. Can’t say the same for Abby🙄🙄🙄
Abby was creating the narrative that Chloe a Subpar second rate dancer to the public. And Christi pushed Chloe so Abby’s narrative wouldn’t win 🏆 now she regrets playing into Abby‘s narrative. Desperate to prove Abby wrong 😑. instead of just encouraging Chloe to have fun 🤩
To be honest I think the only one who wasn’t was Holly…. Everyone else showed signs of being a stage mum but Holly only ever did what Nia wanted and stood up for both Nia and herself and even on occasion the other girls
I would say Kelly wasn’t one either. I mean she openly admitted that she didn’t care if her children won all the time and was fine with pulling solos for the sake of Brooke or Paige’s well-being. Also, when Paige was having panic attacks she referred to dance as an extracurricular activity instead of a career. I don’t think she cared about her kids becoming famous I think she just wanted them to be happy.
@@waitwhat2915I agree that Kelly was not a stage mom at all. Holly was a little bit because she constantly fought for Nia to get solos. Kelly didn't care at all about that - she just didn't want Abby to be cruel to them.
I don’t know these people and I understand that family is family but…this all sounds so awful. I don’t know how some of these girls still talk to their mothers after the stress and pressure they were put through.
@@GirlGeek90what else was there ? 🤔 I thought all the adults and older children had on masks besides her 4 y/o and she got angry because the 19 y/o had cursed at her child for not having a mask on? Idk though 😭😭
What in the world did I just watch! I would and could not ever do half of these insane child abuse like stuff to my babies. Fame hungry or wanting to be famous is such a ridiculous concept to me. You never get to live a normal calm life when your famous who would want that? Also how are you going to spill the tea without actually spilling it. I demand to know what evil mother wanted kids to eat oreos before an audition! My bet is Melissa all the way!! She has been caught being awful thousands of times lol
I always really felt for Christi, because even though she was often the most volatile, it seemed so clear that she genuinely loved Chloe and wanted what was best for her. And she was always the first to give a kid a pep talk, regardless of whether it was her own.
Christi started out as a normal mom imo then let the fame get to her. To this day I look at Chloe’s social media and she still looks so sad then we have Christi with new business ventures, filming stuff, shopping all the time, always in Paris. She definitely started living vicariously through Chloe.
I have to say the same, yet I'm not sure. I mean she can start a new business and live her life like she wants but then again we can't really tell what they're actually like behind the camera
That's not fair. They are extremely close - and you can be sure Christi has never used a dime of Chloe's. Chloe is also really close to her dad and her sister. She is happy and well-adjusted.
Melissa 100 percent because she never protected her kids from adults - I know she has apologised to Maddie now so I’m sure she has changed and realised her mistake but on the show it was pretty bad
It definitely is. It’s so sweet that she and her sister were so close that she learned to take of her when they were so little but it’s heartbreaking to know she had to learn to take care of her little sister when she was a little girl herself
Bryn says it was her mums job to act like that but still blames the other mothers who are also just doing their job. Also, they weren’t locked into a contract before the show began, they knew exactly what they were talking into. Professional victim
i think christi never got enough flack for how much of a crazy stage mom she really was. she kind of projected all her worst traits on melissa and blamed melissa for a lof of things she also did.
She never allowed Chloe to be manipulated by a grown woman or forcefully kissed by a grown woman or doing an inappropriate dance with a known predator, or allowed grown women to cuddle in bed with her daughters.
@@N84Lyfe you’re literally deflecting “oh Melissa did some bad things so that makes Christi completely innocent”. That’s not how it works. There were times where Christi was just as bad, if not worse than Melissa
@@Josh97549 trying to fight against the false narrative that Abby and the producers created that Chloe was a loser. And being desperate to fight the narrative, so Chloe knew her worth. And talent by pushing her. Doesn’t make her bad mom. It makes her someone who made misguided choices. Christi is regretful that she played into the spiteful narrative Abby created that Chloe was a subpar second rate dancer. Instead of encouraging Chloe to have more fun. 🤩 A lot of people are under the misconception that Maddie was favored because she was the best dancer. No, she was the favorite because her mother allowed her to be groomed. Abby tried to favor Chloe, but Christi wouldn’t allow it. Christi heard things that Abby was saying to Chloe and she was like this is some narcissistic manipulative toxic shit 💩 and you are not allowed to be alone with my child. I believe that’s why Abby hated Christi and by extension Chloe because narcissistic abusers hate when you see them for what they are. And Abby is the type that if she can’t have her toy 🧸 she rather break it.
I don't think we should take pressure from Parents as that much of a negative. Yes, there are certain way to go about things, but if you are a parent are not allowed to put pressure on your kids to be successful - how are they ever going to learn that hard work makes a big difference in your success. Unfortunately, this industry (that some of these kids wanted to be apart of) is very cutthroat and if you are not prepared to put in the time and effort as well as go the extra mile, you will never make it. These kids are being talked about still to this day - so I don't think the show was ALL bad for them. Definitely not the best environment to grow up in, but I'm sure these kids are EXTREMELY strong humans today. Grow through what you go through. EDIT: Having to pay for your parents lifestyle though, very no no. The kids should be able to provide for themselves and build their own lives.
Most fans would probably say Jill, and yet she made sure Kendall stayed in Pittsburgh, finished high school and went to college. She and Kelly are probably the least stage mommy of the cast.
Can you do a uncovered video about the aldc mini dancers and mini moms and why the other elite moms didn't like them and why the minis were a big distraction (if there is any sufficient evidence by any cast members or others)
In terms of stage mums in my personal opinion are: Melissa, Jill (shoving her child), Kristie Ray (especially with Raising Asia too), Jess, Ashley (Brynn’s mum not Pressley’s mum), Stacey and Yolanda and I think Tricia from season 8 and maybe Erin. Oh yeah I did forget Joanne (Gianina’s mum) as well but to be fair, her kid had already had success prior to the show.
@@moonwalkerangel7008Christi threatening to take Chloe’s phone wasn’t related anything to being a stage mom but dancing in general, that’s like threatening to take your kids phone for school grades or something. It had nothing to do with Chloe being in a spotlight but Chloe just doing well in dance whether it was for the show or not. Chloe herself has said Christi never pushed her to be in the spotlight. Which would mean she’s not a stage mom.
I think out all the moms, Kelly was probably the less of an stage mom. She always said she wanted her kids to “grow up normal” and be well rounded people. Also she was not obsessed with being famous.
I think holly also
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Judging by the state of Nia’s costumes, I can definitely agree that Holly was not much of a stage mom she threw them in a bag somewhere and left them in the attic. Compared to Jill, who literally has like a shrine to Kendall in their house. Melissa has a whole closet, dedicated completely to their old dance costumes. And Christi has her well organized.
Definitely Kelly, much more than Holly, was not a stage mom. Holly let Nia be abused by Abby for 7 seasons. Kelly got hers out as soon as she could.
@@elizabethhurley1129Holly is not a stage mom
The fact that Jojo thinks it’s funny that her mother would wake her up from sleep as a toddler and make her perform is so wild to me
It’s all she’s known and she’s been surrounded by shady people for years 😬
Jojo is so groomed by the bad adults around her she doesn't know what reality is anymore
It’s called Stockholm syndrome. You normalize your toxic environment to better survive it. Unfortunately, for JoJo, I think she’s becoming a product of her environment and repeating the cycle of abusers.
i think it’s wild that abby’s examples of christi’s “micro managing” are always having things prepared and dressing well as if she didn’t verbally abuse kids for not doing those things
Exactly like you’re statement makes no sense
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That’s right and at the same time she would also complain at the other mothers for not being organised and being prepared!
@@milabenmimon6747 exactly! more often than not the mothers not being organised resulted in the kids being abused for it.
christi def seems like the person to be very prepared when it comes to her kids but that isn’t inherently a bad quality especially when you know your kids gonna get the punishment if you don’t have her 100% ready.
If a mom wakes you up at 3-4am and stretches you until they cry…. Is that not child abuse?
Jojo's mom was the worst stage mom by a mile.
literally like bleaching her hair at 2 is crazy
A disgusting excuse of a person
yeah that’s awful but idk I think waking your kid up at 4am to SIT ON THEM and then make them dance 60 hours a week is lowkey straight up abuse
@@badmanicpower idk why you’re comparing sophia’s trauma to jojo… i never said one was worse. the og comment was about jojo… and a 2 YEAR old baby having chemicals on their scalp….. pls-
@@saiana24 wasn’t replying to you babes. I was replying to the og comment saying Jessalynn was the worst. Also, if you would actually read my whole comment, I said “yeah that is awful” which is in no way denying that Jess was in fact awful
wow, that bit about Sophia Lucia's mom was shocking. It's such a pleasure to watch her dance but knowing what went into it is awful. Yolanda sounds deranged...I think Melissa and Christie were on par - they wanted what was best for their kids but neither of them knew what that meant in the context they were in. Jess 100% wanted to be Abby, she even made that series where she essentially recreated AUDC.
What series? Or just when she was trying to fill in for abby on the main series when abby wasnt there? Because that's not a separate series like this comment insinuates
@@kelsey2333no the person is talking about jojo and Jess’ show
@@kelsey2333 I think it was called Siwas Dance Pop Revolution? There are bits of episodes on RUclips and then the group went to America's Got Talent.
I remember when she came on the show Kelly said something similar and called Jackie on being a crazy stage mom
heavy abt melissa and christi
Sitting on your kids and streching them for two hours every day until they cry is just straight up abuse.
My heart breaks for Sofia... no wonder she didn't enjoy dancing!
Ikr?? I play sports and our stretching is literally like a few minutes
@@mxka-b5m Stretching for flexibility is different tho. Not that quick.
It’s Christi admitting that she wanted the best for Chloe and went about the wrong way then immediately cutting to Abby saying that Christi was the one who was pressuring Chloe to win and making her be perfect like Abby wasn’t the one abusing children, especially and ADMITTEDLY Chloe, everyday.
Literally. Abby can’t talk when she’s 100x worse and visibly wanted Chloe to fail 💀
@@oceanblue9122 Abby said in S8 to the new moms that she “never wanted Chloe to win, and she won all the time.”
Yeah Abby was talking about herself when she accused Christi of pressuring Chloe
Legit
@@sashaking1115 This! 💯 Abby is known for projecting her BS onto others so that isn’t shocking.
I think Sophia’s mom is getting too much of a pass I would listen to Sophia’s personal podcast with her friend some of the things they put her through is frightening
On top of the stretching her mom also would make her swim for an hour before going to dance and they heavily restricted food from her. That’s only scathing the service so much stuff happened
Didn't Spohia also have an eating disorder as a teen? While I'm not saying all parents of children with EDs cause them, the heavy food restrictions and perfectionism Sophia's mother forced her to have such a young age DEFINITELY contributed to hers
Sophia also says that she doesn’t really blame her mom. She says they were advised from dance teachers to do every extreme thing they did and that her mom wasn’t in the industry enough to understand how extreme it was. In the podcast they say that her mom just happened to realize her daughter was a prodigy and she wanted to help her as much as possible.
Regardless of whom it is to blame (probably every adult involved there) I think they really failed her. No child should ever be that overworked. There is a reason if none of the kids from dance moms (except some from season 8) pursued dancing as a career. It used to be their dream but none of them Is dancing professionally now. Dancing during childhood should be free from pressure and competitiveness, but rather educational
Her mum is an abuser. It’s way beyond being a stage mom.
@@federicaf1994whats scary os how Sophia’s mom acted like the nicest mom in dm and it gives me a creepy feeling of how we truly don’t know someone for all we know it was an act she put to hide the abuse Sophia went through 😮
i think it’s so gross of jackie- esp with she placed sm emphasis on prioritizing her child. it’s just a facade
JESS, MELISSA, yolanda, & KRISTIE RAY were absolutely stage moms
So Is christi
@@saraholivier1349I never got that vibe from Christi
@@saraholivier1349No she wasn't
DONT TALK ABOUT MY GIRL CHRISTI RAY THAT LIKE
U forgot Jill 😂
I don’t blame Kira for blowing up like that, I couldn’t imagine anyone having the nerve to tell a 4 year old to “get the fuck out”😭
i was just about to comment this!!! like wtf it doesn’t matter if the girl is 19… at 19 she SHOULD know better
The relief I felt finding this comment is a problem I now need to go unpack in therapy - wayyy too invested hehe!
If someone said get the f out to my 4 year old or any 4 year old I would probably react like Kira. It doesn’t matter the age of the workers age either.
Agreed. I’m confused as to why MackZBoss included this in here- the incident that triggered Kira’s reaction was objectively wrong.
@@teed2198probably a mistake?
Holly and Evan let Nia follow her dream. She finished high school online, worked with the Obamas, and got a dream job at the Winter Olympics in South Korea. Oh, and it’s rumored that Jill played a huge role on why Nia and others didn’t go on the Irreplaceable tour.
Nia was on the tour
Yeah I think you mean carmryn wasn’t on the tour
@@marilyn1984 no she wasn’t. She was supposed to be but before the group left, Nia and Holly posted a. Video that said they wouldn’t be able to go. A video circulated on a rehearsal but it no longer exist so I won’t discuss it. I covered Dance moms.
@@HM-cq2rv Neither Carmyn or Nia did the tour. Go watch the videos. It’s only Christi/Chloe, Jill/Kendall, and Kira/Kalani. And the tour was still running while Nia was helping cover the Winter Olympics for NBC.
@@HM-cq2rv I didn’t see my reply to you. Carmryn was the first to leave. Nia also left. I actually got a link to Nia’s exit but it has since disappeared so I won’t discuss it. Nia a
Be Holly did a video where they told all that circumstances had happened and changed their circumstances. Shortly after that, Nia and her family went to the Olympics and Nia did some reporting for a kid channel and NBC. Then Mia did Bold and Beautiful.
I think Jess and JoJo have had more success then some other cast members because they went in to Dance Moms asnit was a TV show. The OG girls started the show as a documentary of sorts. Their focus was on the dance competition. Jess and JoJo went in with a different focus, making the drama and fallouts easier to compartmentalize
This is so true. It was even mentioned in one of the episodes (don’t remember which) where one of the moms said how Jojo wasn’t there because she wanted to dance, but because she wanted to be a Kardashian.
And jojo was originally in the dance competition show first so she was already in that mindset
Melissa being a stage mom should’ve been more highlighted. She was a snake and sabotaged several kids. She would do any and everything to get Maddie ahead.
Yep
So true
I don't have proof of this, but I heard a rumor that someone saw Sofia Lucia's mom at a dance competition yanking a strawberry out of her mouth or something because it has sugar in it. Her mom is a fitness model and looks like she placed that intense pressure on Sofia. I think Sofia is in recovery from an eating disorder and I think her mom is to blame. It's child abuse.
Wth? My mom is like a nutritionist and she isn't even one, yet she wouldn't do that 😭?? It's just a strawberry.
How did you hear about this, btw?
Wtf ultimate almond mom
Ok but the part about Sophia’s mom is extremely abusive
*Christi admitted on her podcast with Kelly that she pushed Chloe way harder than shown on Dance Moms. Kelly even chimed in that Christi's compplaining about Chloe's costumes and choreography drove her crazy*
Cause she's too worried about wanting her to beat Maddie instead of having faith in her
@@kaidyer8761she was more worried about her having an even playing field then Chloe just having fun has nothing to do with Maddie
@@N84Lyfe girl be quiet it has a lot to be with Maddie because if Maddie had something better when she went against Chloe Christi complained about it so it has a lot to do with Maddie
@@kaidyer8761it wasnt about just about Maddie or not at all it was about Abby and her continue favoritism .. Abby’s studio was going bankrupt in the end because she couldn’t keep her business and affairs together. It was all that narcissistic loser Abby
@@enriqueolguin3601 that's no one's fault abby was a creep get real
Yolanda and Jess are definitely the top stage moms of DM. They both did so many toxic things and pushed the girls to collaborate with straight toxic people in the name of fame (interestingly both with toxic RUclipsrs).
Kristie Rae. Watch literally ANY of Raising Asia.
Ashlee
Melissa
Jill
Christie. Kira
Holly and Kelly (not really stage moms but had a few stage mom moments)
Christi or Christy?
Holly was a fake 😡
@chestnut45134 honestly, it's because she wasn't there for more than like 2 3 episodes that I didn't include her. She is clearly a stage mom but doesn't really seem to be on the level of a Yolanda or Jess. Probably closer to Ashlee without being as obviously crazy on camera.
@chestnut45134 A lot of dancers “sit” or put their foot on the backs of other dancers to help them with their stretches. If Jackie was crazy stage mom she would’ve kept Sophia on the show to get her ahead but she didn’t cause she didn’t want her child in toxic environments.
i would love a video deep diving sophia’s dance career and what went into it behind the scenes. i know that’s like, dance moms adjacent, but i think you’d do it well
According to Abby, Kristie was a sloppy drunk AND a micro-managing perfectionist. Which is it?? She contradicts herself regarding the moms with whatever narrative fits the moment.
Abby also said “Melissa was the one that didn’t want holly and Nia in Australia with us”… like Abby ever gave a crap what the moms wanted, thought, felt, or preferred
That clip of Lillie dipping Ellie was PRECIOUS!!!
Kristie or Christi sloppy drunk?
I did see christi putting too much pressure on Chloé. I am proud that she did/does regret it.
I do believe Ashley and Brynn that jess was rude to them.
Jess herself said she did it for fun as if it’s funny
@@N84Lyfe But then in Brynn's podcast they mentioned that the Jill and Ashlee drama was all fake cause Brynn always hung out with Jill and Kendall and Kendall always hanging out with Ashlee and Brynn but then Jess was ACTUALLY rude to Ashlee and Brynn not just fake for the show like Jill and Ashlee.
@@ilvenia_yes I always reference Brynn’s podcast with Ashlee ! It’s the fact that Ashlee herself confirmed that only mother that actually didn’t want her there is jessalyn🙁
Kira wasn’t entitled for calling someone for swearing at a toddler
I was a collegiate swimmer. During the peak of competition season, we would train up to 25-30 hours a week. It absolutely killed my body as a 18/19/20 year-old college student. I had chronic back & shoulder pain from the intensive training.
Hearing that a seven year-old is training for 25 hours a week is absolutely shocking. I understand that a child could have a true passion for dance, but is all of that training, at such a young age, really worth it? Especially when it comes at the expense of their childhood?
I agree that 7 (and even 9 which is when I hit 20-25 hr weeks) is too young. Unfortunately, intense training like this is fairly typical in the dance world, especially the ballet world. I was hitting 5-8 hour days training/rehearsing by the time I was 16, and was doing school work on top of that. I'm glad for the career I have because of it, but that kind of training definitely left its mark.
This video was very insightful, but the one thing I thought was a bit weird was that you seemed to suggest that Kira was entitled for causing a fuss about the employee. Kira has done plenty of entitled things both on and off the show, but getting someone fired for cursing at her 4 year old is not one of them. If you are incapable of being pleasant with literal toddlers, you simply can't be working in customer service.
Kira is a racist by the way.
That's not entitled behavior at all, in my opinion. I would have freaked out too if someone said that to my child. If I could, I definitely would have gotten them fired. That's just not okay behavior.
I…. Kind of wonder how much truth there is to that story. I think Kira is very shady and I don’t trust her.
@@SueP-DYESSSS. I dont trust kira and jess the most out of all the moms
But was she being honest though?
Asia’s mom was DEFINITELY a stage mom
true but why are you bringing it up - she wasnt mentions in the video
At 10:57 I completely agree with Kira no worker should be swearing that is so unprofessional especially at a customer and HE was 4 he wasn’t understanding of what was going on.
I was so interested that Kendall’s mom wasn’t mentioned in this video!!!
Same. Jill was extreme.
I imagine Jill was more for tv sake like what we saw of her was more to do with the fact that she was playing a role or that production staged or made certain scenes look worse than what it was I mean Jill after the show was over made Kendall return to school because she had missed 10 years of schooling and that she wanted her to have an education before anything else which is very un stage mum like
Jill was playing a role for the show, unlike everyone else that came on the show after her
I feel Like Christi out of all of the Moms is the One that is Genuinely Owing up to her Mistakes i really do i think she is a very Good Mother.
Absolutely
Agreed 100%
She ain't own up to her racist comments.
Melissa did aswell she apologized to her kids
@@lisa-pk4cd Yeah but she’s still not 100% honest abt what happened on the show. Like the time she sued the moms she still to this day says that was fake yet all of the moms vividly remember getting the letter from the lawyer they all shared.
My jaw literally dropped hearing all of this. Like…What. The. Fuck.
How can these mothers treat their children this way and live with themselves? Like, that’s your CHILD. How do they not feel ashamed?
I feel like only a stage mom would let their kid be on this show, especially the ones that joined a couple seasons in and knew what Abby was like
Melissa apparently scratched Chloe's CD with her solo music on it once! Christi said this on her podcast
It was so obvious Jess for whatever unknown reasons did not like Ashley and Brynn she was terrible to them
Ashlee confirmed this in the podcast with Brynn !! She said Jess was the only one who she thought didn’t want her there .
You should have included the part where Jess specifically said that she intentionally left Brynn and Ashlee out, and purposely bullied Brynn. (In her podcast) She’s probably the only mom that wasn’t sorry for her actions, even though Jill did said some things to Brynn. At least Brynn and Ashlee knew it was for drama.
“She’s only 19 🥺” dude the person she swore at was only FOUR YEARS OLD
Me when another masterpiece pops out ❤
I’ve always taken the show as a lot of produced drama but Yolanda genuinely scared me. She was manipulative towards Elli, abusive and overall just not a good person. More than anyone, she’s scared me. I fear for Elli and I truly hope she’s as safe as possible.
Love this community too.
Her son, Elli’s brother said Yolanda was/is straight up abusive. He put up censored police reports and her rap sheet.
Yass, and she's abusive to Ellis brother too
@@emilyrheathe same brother who sexually assaulted elliana? The same brother who elli herself says lies about Yolanda
@@N84Lyfei don’t think she ever actually specified that ? if she did, can you say where ? i’m like genuinely intrigued
@@areyoulostbabygorl231 I can send you the link girlie one second
I agree with kirra telling off that employee tho, i mean why yell at a 4 yr old wtf
Stacy in season 8 totally had a deal with the producers that she would fabricate drama, I'm convinced.
Or Joanne...
fr, bc she was not like that at all in season 6&7😭 like it was all so cringey and fake
I would probably say, MOST of the moms on "Dance Moms" were stage moms-- Only exception would be Holly.
the worst moms:
jackie lucia (video should've been enough)
yolanda (forced elliana to stretch until she cried like sophia, abuse allegations, clearly exploiting her on social media and had her join pipers squad which is a whole other rabbit hole)
jess (should be kinda obvious at this point, jojo didn't have a chance at a normal childhood. jess wanted her famous the minute she was out of the womb)
quinn sisters mom (she was barely on the show but she clearly pimps out coco similar to how elliana is)
jess’s podcast being called success with jess literally tells me everything
Jesslyn also addmited to bullying Ashley and was laughing about it
My kids danced with a couple of those kids on occasion and was friendly terms with them. They were nice kids. One of the kid’s parents searched her kid’s mouth in front of everyone to check if she ate a strawberry! But she wasn’t the craziest.
We knew kids whose parents had them on very restrictive diets- everyone knew it. We saw kids in the studio day in day out even at a young age. Kids would be doing photoshoots in the cold or the extreme heat, and late into the night. Moms would say rude things to other kids before they went on stage to freak them out. Really crazy and extreme behavior was not normalized by Dance Moms; the dance world was already broken. The extreme behavior was not unique to the dance moms show by any means.
We have known kids who danced when they didn’t want to, several who ended up hospitalized due to heart and bone issues due to malnourishment. The darkest thing my kids ever observed I won’t write here but the studio in question knows what it is.
It starts as an innocent endeavor but at the highest levels gets very dark. Dance Moms just profited off of drama that was already going on.
Great video, but I don’t think Kira was entitled when that employee said that to her child. I would have tried to keep calm, but I don’t blame her her tbh
Making such a fuss that the employee gets fired for something that small? It was probably not even as rudely said like Kira said
Also, it was COVID and the employee probably told them multiple times to wear a mask or leave. Like, I'm not putting my life at risk for a Karen. I got COVID twice and it felt like I was dying, so I don't blame the employee.
@@PGOumaThank You !! Like I’m pretty sure it was required that they all have masks to go inside so why would she not bring enough masks ? It makes no sense to me
@@lucas_vermeire They have cameras and other employees, so I think that 19 yr old was rude enough to be fired
@@PGOuma If they felt like they were in danger they should have left or quit since their work place does not value health. Also don't come at me, they need that job to pay bills, bc minimum wage jobs barely cover it now a days.
Ellianna looks way to old for her age . She looks like she’s 29 . She’s legit barley 16 .
I agree but maybe she could've just started puberty early -- I started puberty when I was like, 8 or 9
She doesn't look like she's 29 whatsoever. I swear people will see a teenage girl with some makeup and automatically claim she looks older than her age 💀
@@mxka-b5moh not her body (I feel icky saying anything about her body) it’s the way she dresses that makes her look 18,19,20
I think Christy who had Sarah was a massive stage mom. She would act crazy on camera but everyone said that actually she was very nice lol.
Christi was the most protective because of how Chloe was treated by Abby
Abby was created in this narrative that Chloe a Subpar second rate dancer to the public. And Christi pushed Chloe so Abby’s narrative wouldn’t win 🏆 now she regrets playing into Abby‘s narrative. Desperate to prove Abby wrong 😑. instead of just encouraging Chloe to have fun 🤩
Absolutely. In my opinion, Christi is the second best mom - after Kelly. They got their kids out as soon as possible, and they never abused them. Christi, being a bit pushy, isn't abuse, and Kelly wasn't abusive at all.
Please do an uncovered on all the reboots. Abby/Brandon TV’s “Madhouse,” Abby’s “Season 9/Dance with Me”, Lifetime’s OG Reunion, and the Dance Moms reboot with Studio Bleu that’s slated for either cable or streaming
If Kira’s kid was told “get the f out” then she has the right to be mad.
Especially when the kids is literally four.
It is really hard for me to believe that any of og moms, even Melissa, would call a kid "ugly". My guess is that this is just another of Abby's lies. Since Hannah was there when Abby said/lied that, I will say that I felt very sorry for Hannah during her time on DM, but now I see that she supports this child abuser, so I feel really disappointed in her.
Putting lots of pressure on your child is probably the worst thing you can do, like, you're just gonna freak your child out, and I don't think that makes a kid want to dance
These videos r so great! Thanks for making them.
I’ve been refreshing your page for the last hour
$20 says the oreo mom was Jill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ swear to god. Idk if the actress claims it was christi or not?? But Jill has also been confirmed not to allow Kendall to have sugar as a kid
I think at times, Christi did apply pressure on Chloe, but it seems like that her heart was in the right place. She wanted her daughter to be herself. The only person Chloe had to prove to was herself. Abby was the real micromanager, always in that crazy mindset that Maddie had to live to HER expectations. At least she held herself accountable. Can’t say the same for Abby🙄🙄🙄
Abby was creating the narrative that Chloe a Subpar second rate dancer to the public. And Christi pushed Chloe so Abby’s narrative wouldn’t win 🏆 now she regrets playing into Abby‘s narrative. Desperate to prove Abby wrong 😑. instead of just encouraging Chloe to have fun 🤩
To be honest I think the only one who wasn’t was Holly…. Everyone else showed signs of being a stage mum but Holly only ever did what Nia wanted and stood up for both Nia and herself and even on occasion the other girls
I would say Kelly wasn’t one either. I mean she openly admitted that she didn’t care if her children won all the time and was fine with pulling solos for the sake of Brooke or Paige’s well-being. Also, when Paige was having panic attacks she referred to dance as an extracurricular activity instead of a career. I don’t think she cared about her kids becoming famous I think she just wanted them to be happy.
@@waitwhat2915I agree that Kelly was not a stage mom at all. Holly was a little bit because she constantly fought for Nia to get solos. Kelly didn't care at all about that - she just didn't want Abby to be cruel to them.
I think Kelly was less of a stage mom than Holly.
hey queen do you think you can make a video on where the audc dancers are now? specifically season 2?
2:04 not the sickled foot 😭
I don’t know these people and I understand that family is family but…this all sounds so awful. I don’t know how some of these girls still talk to their mothers after the stress and pressure they were put through.
There's more to the Dairy Queen story than Kira cared to show
Well even if there was, screaming and cussing out a child out isn't the right thing to do. You can still get your point without being rude.
@@a3cools115 I never said the yelling wasn't wrong, I just know that there was more to the story
@@GirlGeek90what else was there ? 🤔 I thought all the adults and older children had on masks besides her 4 y/o and she got angry because the 19 y/o had cursed at her child for not having a mask on? Idk though 😭😭
*Yolanda, Stacey, Melissa, Christy, I could go on and on for hours…*
No, not Christi.
The fact Cathy seems proud of starving vivi n forcing her to do that dance-
you’re my favorite channel i love ur vids sm and appreciate ur hard work!!!!
I literally couldn't watch the last season and a half bc the drama was so immense, and they were verbally attacking the children consistently!
The “im not gonna feed you!😀” had my jaw on the FLOOR
What in the world did I just watch! I would and could not ever do half of these insane child abuse like stuff to my babies. Fame hungry or wanting to be famous is such a ridiculous concept to me. You never get to live a normal calm life when your famous who would want that? Also how are you going to spill the tea without actually spilling it. I demand to know what evil mother wanted kids to eat oreos before an audition! My bet is Melissa all the way!! She has been caught being awful thousands of times lol
I really dont understand why so many ppl liked Asia's mom she was AWFUL
I love how Holly is absolutely no where in this. She is a true parenting role model in my opinion
Hurray! Another great DM Uncovered video! Love you MackZBoss🥰🥰🥰
I always wait for these, i love watching these been watching since the first one came out, love this series
This is why Queen Holy is my favourite🩷🩷
definetly jess and melissa and even kristie’s asia’s mom
Jess dyed her kid's hair blond... That's not normal
@@c.t.p.9821 did i say it was… i literally said jess was a stage mom…
easy now@@saiana24
I always really felt for Christi, because even though she was often the most volatile, it seemed so clear that she genuinely loved Chloe and wanted what was best for her. And she was always the first to give a kid a pep talk, regardless of whether it was her own.
I don’t Christi is a stage mom. She was doing what she genuinely thought was right.
Christi started out as a normal mom imo then let the fame get to her. To this day I look at Chloe’s social media and she still looks so sad then we have Christi with new business ventures, filming stuff, shopping all the time, always in Paris. She definitely started living vicariously through Chloe.
I saw that too
I have to say the same, yet I'm not sure. I mean she can start a new business and live her life like she wants but then again we can't really tell what they're actually like behind the camera
That's not fair. They are extremely close - and you can be sure Christi has never used a dime of Chloe's. Chloe is also really close to her dad and her sister. She is happy and well-adjusted.
Melissa 100 percent because she never protected her kids from adults - I know she has apologised to Maddie now so I’m sure she has changed and realised her mistake but on the show it was pretty bad
Did no one mention Black Patsy? She named herself after Patsy Ramsey...
True but I think it was kinda a joke 😂
I think maddie stepping up at a young age to help her sister is so sweet yet so heartbreaking at the same time 😭
It definitely is. It’s so sweet that she and her sister were so close that she learned to take of her when they were so little but it’s heartbreaking to know she had to learn to take care of her little sister when she was a little girl herself
Yolanda always gave me the ick.
so which mum tried to get the other kids to eat oreos lol
Bryn says it was her mums job to act like that but still blames the other mothers who are also just doing their job. Also, they weren’t locked into a contract before the show began, they knew exactly what they were talking into. Professional victim
Who because Ashlee has only publicly shamed Christi and Jessalyn because they both bullied Brynn to the point where she was receiving death threats.
@@N84Lyfe every girl on that show had stalkers and death threats, the ogs from being 7 and 8 years old
bro 19 year old telling a 4 year old to get the fuck out is crazy, she deserved to be fired.
i think christi never got enough flack for how much of a crazy stage mom she really was. she kind of projected all her worst traits on melissa and blamed melissa for a lof of things she also did.
She never allowed Chloe to be manipulated by a grown woman or forcefully kissed by a grown woman or doing an inappropriate dance with a known predator, or allowed grown women to cuddle in bed with her daughters.
@@N84Lyfe you’re literally deflecting “oh Melissa did some bad things so that makes Christi completely innocent”. That’s not how it works. There were times where Christi was just as bad, if not worse than Melissa
@@Josh97549 trying to fight against the false narrative that Abby and the producers created that Chloe was a loser. And being desperate to fight the narrative, so Chloe knew her worth. And talent by pushing her. Doesn’t make her bad mom. It makes her someone who made misguided choices. Christi is regretful that she played into the spiteful narrative Abby created that Chloe was a subpar second rate dancer. Instead of encouraging Chloe to have more fun. 🤩
A lot of people are under the misconception that Maddie was favored because she was the best dancer. No, she was the favorite because her mother allowed her to be groomed. Abby tried to favor Chloe, but Christi wouldn’t allow it. Christi heard things that Abby was saying to Chloe and she was like this is some narcissistic manipulative toxic shit 💩 and you are not allowed to be alone with my child.
I believe that’s why Abby hated Christi and by extension Chloe because narcissistic abusers hate when you see them for what they are.
And Abby is the type that if she can’t have her toy 🧸 she rather break it.
On AUDC the WORST was Yvette
Actually that Maria lady was pretty awful too
I don't think we should take pressure from Parents as that much of a negative. Yes, there are certain way to go about things, but if you are a parent are not allowed to put pressure on your kids to be successful - how are they ever going to learn that hard work makes a big difference in your success. Unfortunately, this industry (that some of these kids wanted to be apart of) is very cutthroat and if you are not prepared to put in the time and effort as well as go the extra mile, you will never make it. These kids are being talked about still to this day - so I don't think the show was ALL bad for them. Definitely not the best environment to grow up in, but I'm sure these kids are EXTREMELY strong humans today. Grow through what you go through.
EDIT: Having to pay for your parents lifestyle though, very no no. The kids should be able to provide for themselves and build their own lives.
I agree to an extent
Love this 😍
LITERALLY OBSESSSED!!!
You do know that they didn’t get that home studio until like season 4 when Melissa bought a new house
Notice How QUEEN HOLLY Is Not In This Compilation 🥰💯👏🏾✨👑
Most fans would probably say Jill, and yet she made sure Kendall stayed in Pittsburgh, finished high school and went to college. She and Kelly are probably the least stage mommy of the cast.
Chloe and Nia both are still in college as well
@@N84Lyfe Yes but their mother's allowed them to go to LA to pursue their careers. Kendall wanted to but Jill didn't let her.
@@chalkandcheese1868Jill didn’t let her cause she’s a suck up to Abby and Abby didn’t allow it.
@@samiemily7467 What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking after the show ended.
@@chalkandcheese1868you do know Kendall has been in a few movies and had her own talk show right? All before she went to college.
6:30 as a kid who’s parents lowkey did that same shit to me, that’s not how it works christi
I love the pink theme today 🥹🫶🏻 On Friday‘s, we wear pink 😋
All of them. Maybe not Kelly and Holly (first seasons).
Kira scares me so bad….
Jill was the best stage mom EVER 😂
ready to watch!
Can you do a uncovered video about the aldc mini dancers and mini moms and why the other elite moms didn't like them and why the minis were a big distraction (if there is any sufficient evidence by any cast members or others)
Wait didn't Melissa say on her q and a with Mckenzie that her and husband pay for the family trip
In terms of stage mums in my personal opinion are: Melissa, Jill (shoving her child), Kristie Ray (especially with Raising Asia too), Jess, Ashley (Brynn’s mum not Pressley’s mum), Stacey and Yolanda and I think Tricia from season 8 and maybe Erin. Oh yeah I did forget Joanne (Gianina’s mum) as well but to be fair, her kid had already had success prior to the show.
lol def wouldn’t say christi
@@jaylenarmstrong4033 Ok then, why do you think Christi wasn’t one?
@@moonwalkerangel7008Christi threatening to take Chloe’s phone wasn’t related anything to being a stage mom but dancing in general, that’s like threatening to take your kids phone for school grades or something.
It had nothing to do with Chloe being in a spotlight but Chloe just doing well in dance whether it was for the show or not. Chloe herself has said Christi never pushed her to be in the spotlight. Which would mean she’s not a stage mom.
@@KaylahParker06You have made some good points. I will take back what I said.
Why isn’t everyone talking about Sophia ??
I think it is crazy how at 6 Maddie had to do like the mom work in the mornings for her younger sister Makenzie