How Warrior Cats FIXED then RUINED Nightheart
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2023
- After a confusing character arc for Nightheart in A Starless Clan so far, they finally fixed it! Well, ALMOST fixed it...
Cat art is by Miss Dako: / miss_dakoart
Intro by Lapis Feder: / @lady_luzifer 
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I didn’t bother reading this arc but hearing bramblestar stepping down and letting squirrelstar FINALLY happen gave me more excitement then all of AVOS and TBC ever did
This was literally my thought
Edit: Nevermind saw end of video.
My depression, gone, my hope, revitalized, hotel, trivago.
yeah i only read the first book of this arc, but hearing that gave me a lot more hope for this series.
I hope they dont screw this up or make Squirrelflight into a Bramblestar if ya know ya know
@@Lu13s If they do, I'm leaving this book series and never looking back.
I can kind of understand why Sunbeam left ShadowClan. There was a scene where she was looking around the camp and realized that she didn't feel like she belonged there without Nightheart, but I really really wish they spent more time on her developing those ideas and feelings. Maybe they should have bled her decision making into the next book and had her join ThunderClan by the middle of the fourth book.
Her situation was like that since the first book when her best friends betrayed her... It started to change when Nightheart joined Shadowclan, but it was because he was there, not because the other warriors changed.
@@groudonvert7286 agreed. Her problems never got solved by Nightheart joining ShadowClan. The problems were still there, but she was having to focus more on Berryheart rather than Lightleap & Blazefire. It could be said that Nightheart made Sunbeam move on from Blazefire, but it was obvious the issues she had before still existed after Nightheart left - if not more intensified cause Nightheart's betrayal reopened her wounds from Blazefire becoming Lightleap's mate and "proving" Berryheart right. They did say Sunbeam recovered enough to see the errors of Berryheart's ways though and it could have fed into her decision to leave ShadowClan - especially if they had explored it more and even had Berryheart put her up to something dangerous and maybe even finding out that Splashtail killed Reedwhisker and possibly Curlfeather and nearly Frostpaw.
@@rowanfrost8489 I don't think it's Splashtail, he's too obvious (well you can say that Ashfur was obvious too, but there are much more suspects in this arc than in the Broken Code).
Imo it's definitely Splashtail or one of his friends (Duskfur or Mallownose) I doubt it was Mallownose but Duskfur is very aggressive as a character - even when Mistystar was alive, but I don't remember if she was on the patrol with Reedwhisker - Splashtail was. Plus I think Duskfur wanted Curlfeather to be leader, so she wasn't responsible for her death. And I doubt Duskfur would try to kill Frostpaw.
Edit: on top of that, Splashtail was the only cat who knew where Frostpaw was going to be when she was attacked.
@@rowanfrost8489 It's also a possibility that it's a group of cats, not just one. Curlfeather being Reedwhisker's killer is not out of the window either.
I was actually pleasantly surprised when Sunbeam popped up at the end. I'm sure the drama between them isn't over. I think Sunbeam feels alone in ShadowClan and realized she had grown to rely on Nightheart's presence
Like i get what Akira is saying, but i love that Sunbeam finally left her toxic mother. Tbh she nevre really fit into Shadowclan after Blazefires betrayal on her, and she grew so deeply in love with Nightheart i didn’t want that to have been for nothing yk?
@@wxldflowerz plus let's be honest, Sunbeam is a much better ThunderClan name lol
I'm just happy that we got some Sorrelstripe, Bayshine and Lilyheart. Sky kind of seemed to forget that these cats were also important to Nightheart.
i think it's cause the books were written 3 books in advance by different people, but yes that's great :)
I forgot about sorrel stripe
i really like Bayshine i hope he gets more time to “shine” wink wink
Did anyone else notice the change in writing this book? I feel like there was much more human slang that just made me laugh sometimes, like Sunbeam several times thinking “is he for real?/are you for real?” and also saying “I haven’t felt like this since blazefire broke up with me!” I feel like I just noticed so many more human sounding phrases in this book that just made me chuckle with how strange it was - I might just imagining things. did somebody else notice this too?
I also noticed, I kind of like it though honestly.
I noticed and it made me laugh!! It honestly felt like the characters had more connections with each other
the r u fr part made me laugh
I wanted to burst out laughing- Sunbeam saying Fr really brightened up my day
"Is he fr?? Like on StarClan??"
I want so, so, so desperately for Squirrelflight to become Squirrelstar. But I have this horrible feeling she's going to get killed before that can happen.
As much as I would love a Squirrelstar, something tells me that the writers are going to pull a Curlfeather move on her
I agree, I really want Squirrelstar and its long over due, but I just know the writers aren't gonna give it to her for some reason 😭
@@HiHi-lt1cb NO B%#%hFLIGHT SUCKS JUST NO!
I don't think she's gonna get killed before, but possibly just be a really bad leader based on how she's acting in this arc.
Didn’t one of the Erins stated that Squirrelflight will not become the leader of thunderclan. So Squirrelflight will possibly be killed in battle or killed before she even reaches the Moonpool
I have a strong gut feeling that Squirrelflight won't get her nine lives. Like, she'll die or something because 1. The Erin's seem to like torturing her, 2. If she becomes leader she would be entering RiverClan and ShadowClan business, therefore saving RiverClan and ruining whatever Berryheart's plan with Splashtail was unless she was just not gonna fight them, and 3. StarClan also hates her or just likes to torture her, so they'll probably be like "Nah, we don't agree. Buzz off."
Yeah, also because her getting nine lives would be what the fans what and we certainly couldn’t do that! That would be too convenient!
@@Spidermonkey43 What they'd more than likely do is have Bramblestar stay leader longer until Squirrelflight retires, and then Bramblestar is allowed to retire after someone else is made deputy.
Another thing that could happen would be as soon as Bramblestar retires Squirrelflight makes someone else leader
Another theory, splash and berry conspire to kill squirrel at the moon pool and Force Bramble to continue being leader. Then the Erin's can force night into a deputy position and anger the fans by making him nightstar
Please no
At least Nightheart pointed out Sunbeam would probably be fighting against ShadowClan soon if she joined him and she was unsure. At least there's that
I have no idea why people were so angry at nightheart- from the beginning of the series I saw that this was where his character arc was going to go. All of his writing in the previous books was intentional so you could see him grow as a person.
Yeah, the hate he got was not deserved honestly.
I feel like a small part of it was due to his “edginess,” but I’m aware that it was more than that.
I like protagonists that go against the typical mold of a goodie good guy protagonist because it makes you understand them more that we usually don’t with real people.
Yeah, I grew up in an emotionally and verbally abusive family, so when everyone complained about him leaving ThunderClan, I was like “??? Are you not reading the full context of this book???” I don’t think he should have gone back to ThunderClan, honestly. After I moved out of my home and even now after moving to another state, I feel homesick every once in a while. But it’s because the toxic people I grew up with were all I really knew and facing something new, no matter how much I want it, is scary. To me, the Erin’s are basically saying “it doesn’t matter how much they hurt you, family is everything so you shouldn’t betray them unless your a woman!” Real good message to send to the kids who read these books!
@@alexismyers6053 Well they were not that much abusive, they had a misunderstanding that would never have been resolved if he didn't go somewhere else for a while. In some cases it can work in reality, in other it doesn't.
@@groudonvert7286 … Nightheart made his thoughts and feelings perfectly clear multiple times and Sparkpelt refused to just be happy for him, even enlisted her mother in punishing him. That is NOT a “misunderstanding.” And you think they “weren’t that abusive”? Let me ask you, in your own opinion, how much abuse is enough to warrant being upset or removing the abusers from your life? Because the way most people see it, ANY abuse from family is enough to go low to no contact with them. People don’t HAVE to take bing mistreated in ANY way, shape, form, or level. ESPECIALLY not if the ones mistreating you are supposed to love and support you unconditionally. So… what level of abuse is “enough” for you? If these were humans and not cats, would you be saying the same thing?
my suggestion for squilf's lives:
firestar: for courage, chosen because of his significance in thunderclan and bc he's her DAD
hollyleaf: for honesty, chosen because last time the erins didn't do it for bramblestar, so why not squirrelstar?
greystripe: for following your heart, chosen bc of his recent death, and bc i wanna see him again
sandstorm: for wisdom, to make careful decisions, chosen because she's squilf's mom, and she hasn't been seen in the books for like 4 years
leafpool: for clarity, chosen because she's her sister and i might as well complete the family
brindleface: for motherly love, chosen because she's loved by the fandom, and she needs a book/slash appearance as a starclan cat.
mistystar: for understanding, chosen because of her recent death
dustpelt: for mentoring, chosen because he was her mentor
ravenpaw: for justice and honesty, chosen because of his previous appearance in bramblestar's leadership ceremony, the fact that he's my favourite character, and so it would complete the original 5 group(fire+grey+raven+sand+dust)
I still don't understand how Ravenpaw can just appear in starclan for a brief second during a life ceremony and then teleport back to whatever afterlife he's in with Barley. I know it happened before but I still find it weird.
@@Parasolhyena you're right but maybe the erins will forget it lol
i want them to but also not
Oooo that's so interesing!!!
Although I like to think of one of the lives being Bluestar for some reason, heck maybe even Ferncloud (Ferncloud being a mother's love and Bluestar for responsability)
I think I would replace either ravenpaw or brindleface with shrewpaw. Because, they had a closer bond and his life would be for companionship or something like that.
I think it would be:
Hollyleaf: Self-control
Juniperkit: curiosity
Dandelionkit: righteousness
Shrewpaw: adaptability
Purdy: enthusiasm
Sandstorm: Courage
Leafpool: determination
Bluestar: honesty
Firestar: justice
LONG RAMBLE AHEAD AKIRA SORRY AHEAD OF TIME
Personally it makes sense that Sunbeam is being the impulsive one now and switching to Thunderclan. We can see that she felt genuine anxieties over the fact that Nightheart is no longer there with her. That it didn't feel right. It was definitely emotions in the moment + Berryheart not knowing when to shut her trap that caused Sunbeam to heavily consider going to Thunderclan. Her best relationships were with Lightleap and Blazefire. She mended her friendship with Lightleap somewhat and she gave Blazefire her blessing that she isn't mad anymore about him moving onto Lightleap. She probably felt like all she had to do in Shadowclan was done and that now she could go to Thunderclan to be with Nightheart.
But I do like that even Nightheart is trying to convince her otherwise! He outright told her that if she joins Thunderclan, she's going to have to fight her former clan once Squirrelstar steps in. That's why I feel like the Erins stopped the book right before Sunbeam actually joins Thunderclan because it's going to have Sunbeam go through an arc where she realizes what Nightheart went through. So hopefully by the end of the Thunder book, she goes back to Shadowclan instead of staying in Thunderclan. That hopefully, by feeling what Nightheart felt while in Shadowclan has her realize while they love each other, it's not strong enough that they'd literally upturn their lives for it. And that's something that's okay to realize! You can love people but realize the sacrifices you'd have to make to love them just isn't worth it in the long-term. I do see them genuinely having a deep friendship by the end of this, with both of them cheering each other on.
COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THIS VIDEO, what I enjoy is that Nightheart being away from Sparkpelt and Finchlight is realistic. When my boyfriend left his mother's controlling home, being away from her eventually put them on equal footing as she now had no tie to him so she couldn't hold anything against him. I feel the same happened with Nightheart. By being away from his family, it gave both sides time to actually realize what they kept arguing about wasn't worth it in the slightest and it forced both parties to take a step back and evaluate what they really wanted for each other. By being away, it made all parties realize how much they missed each other, but how awful they were all to each other previously.
I’ll eat a full stack of stuffed French toast if Sparkpelt actually changes. You see stories like Nightheart’s all the time on Reddit and my family was also horrible to me. Going back if the WORST choice you can make. If living with them makes them act that way, 9 times out of 10, they will slowly go back to how they were before but be more careful about it- gaslighting, love bombing, emotional manipulation, the works- to keep you from leaving again. The best thing you can do is get out and stay out because then they can’t have control. You go to visit mom’s house and mom says it’s such a shame you gave up the beau name she gave you? Tell her to drop it or you’ll leave. You meet up for lunch and mom starts comparing you to the dead grandfather she never even met? Walk away and don’t answer her until she apologizes. Grandma give you chores because mom said to do so to punish you for something? Tell grandma no and to stay out of your real with your mother. Nightheart going back to ThunderClan is the equivalent of a person who used to be the family scapegoat moving back in with the mother who abused him and his golden child sister. It’s not the wholesome family story the Erin’s want you to think it is. It’s a horrible idea that gives the wrong impress to vulnerable readers and I hate it. When I moved out, if some gave me a cat allegory to convince me “family is everything” I would have told them in great details where they can shove it. Nightheart didn’t truly miss his family. He was scared of the new life ahead of him and missed the only thing he’s ever known- abuse- because it seemed easier to him to just take it and ignore them than to build an entirely knew life for himself.
@@alexismyers6053 Yeah I agree with that! I honestly don't like the idea of Nightheart having to see the "good sides" of his familial relationships, when he wasn't the one doing harm. He had every right to get angry with Sparkpelt and his sister for villainising his name change, and I'm kinda tired of people trying to argue the "both sides were wrong" argument in these types of narratives. Nightheart should have gone through with his decision instead of being forced to fail on purpose because of some "family is important" nonsense. I also hate how she cats are being treated in this arc (though I'm not surprised). The majority of abusive figures in Nightheart's life are female, and Sunbeam is forced to fall head over heels for Nightheart and make the sacrifice to leave Shadowclan in the end. Once again, Warrior cats is making the female characters antagonistic to build up a male character, and forces another she cat to sacrifice way more for the male's sake. And again, that isn't Nightheart's fault-- it's the writers'. I stand by it when I say that Sunbeam and Nightheart are being abused by the narrative for the sake of stupid drama and toxic quotas they have to fill.
@@pantherbeastly3934 exactly! I wanted Nightheart to try to leave the Clans entire, feeling he could never escape Firestar’s legacy. Since every cat and their mother typically goes to Twolegplace when running away, he knows this is the first place ThunderClan will look, so he chooses to go through WindClan and leave the Clans to the Northeast, where no Clan cat has explored yet. But on his way, he’s attacked by a bird of prey and saved by Breezepelt. Breezepelt yells at him and acts aggressively until Nightheart tells him what’s happening. Breezepelt sees his younger self in Nightheart and offers to having him come to WindClan, telling him how they don’t care much for Firestar and would judge Nightheart for who he is. Also pointing out that, as a Clan cat, Nightheart will struggle to survive completely on his own. Nightheart agrees, and when they ask Harestar, Harestar is upset. He gives Nightheart a challenge only “true” WindClan cats can complete- hunt a rabbit by himself. When Nightheart finally takes this test, he goes above and beyond by catching a hare (which is much larger and faster than a rabbit, so even seasoned WindClan warriors struggle to hunt them in groups). Maybe he does this on his own, maybe Smokehaze (Breezepelt’s deceased daughter) helps him, either way, when he returns with a bare instead of a rabbit, not only does he impress Nightcloud, Crowfeather, Harestar, and the medicine cats, but Kestrel flight tells Harestar that this is obviously a sign of StarClans approval of Nightheart’s place in WindClan. Harestar agrees and Nighthearts joins the Clan. He immediately is close to Breezepelt, who adopts him as a son (not to replace his deceased daughter but because he feels empathy and compassion for him). His daughters also immediately take to Nightheart and he has a romance with one of the younger 2 (I like Appleshine best) while the other younger daughter and Brindlewing see himself as a brother. He would start with the family he deserves and slowly earn his Clans respect through his own merit. His love interest’s entire personality wouldn’t be “just Nightheart’s crush/mate,” they would agree to go slow and let a relationship naturally build, starting with a friendship and building to a romance while building on the personalities of all three sisters and exploring how Breezepelt has changed since OOTS. Breezepelt would come to ACTUALLY redeem himself by helping keep Nightheart from going down the same path as him and by admitting to his wrong doings to Nightheart (taking ownership of his actions and expressing genuine remorse and desire to be better). It would be MUCH better than what we got in Crofeather’s Trail (“I was baby but now I’m good, you should just trust me.”) Nightheart would get what he needs- a family and Clan who love and support him for who he is- and Sunbeam can have her own story that isn’t so heavily twisted with Nightheart’s. Plus, more WindClan!
@@alexismyers6053 Yeah that would be a nice idea! Nightheart should actually be given a chance to go on his own emotional journey outside of Thunderclan, instead of what they basically do by having him go back on his initial potential as a character. We've also rarely gotten the perspective of a cat who needs to learn how to adapt to a new clan, which would have been a vital aspect of Nightheart learning to find himself. I honestly disagree with akira's assertion that the story was going in a good direction with Nightheart deciding to return to Thunderclan, as it just feels like a huge step back in his arc, as well as Sunbeam's. It would also be nice to see some new development from Breezepelt and see Night build off from that. I'm so tired of the Books' fixation on propping the status quo up as something noble to live by.
@@pantherbeastly3934 yeah! My family is verbally and mentally abusive! I’ve moved to another state 5.5 hours away just to escape their toxicity. And while it’s hard and I still don’t have a job almost a year later, my biggest fear is failing here and having to go back! Nightheart shouldn’t be going back! That’s a horrible idea! They authors are just making a doormat out of him and selling it as “nobility.”
I hope that Thunder fully fixes Nightheart. I honestly liked him in Shadow, but I don't like how easily all of his problems were resolved.
Yep. He needs to be put through the grinder and remain loyal to thunderclan regardless.
They're not easily resolved. Sunbeam mirrors Nightheart's decision and he was also criticized for that.
@@groudonvert7286 Yes they are? Nightheart has no consequences for leaving Sunbeam, as Akira already stated. She briefly hates him, and that's it. That's not a consequence.
@@SavouryGalette I don't think she hated him. She was furious that he did that without telling her first. Sleeping through the night made her understand how important he was in her life.
His problems are not fixed though. Sunbeam will face the same problem that he faced in Shadow - fighting his old classmates. If he doesn't find a way to deal with that, he could lose Sunbeam.
This arc talks about clan swappers and how they have to deal with the consequences of their choices. Nightheart has that in Shadow, now it's Sunbeam's turn to deal with it.
By the way, there's no need to have a consequence to everything we decide in life.
@@groudonvert7286 But in this case, the book had tried to establish a consequence fore Nightheart: Sunbeam becomes his enemy, and starts becoming more like her mother. Then the book ripped that away at the last second, and the story is no longer as interesting. And yes, she does clearly hate him before her decision to change clans. She reprimands him for what he did, and even says that Berryheart may have been right to be suspicious of him. Did you even read the book?
Well I would agree with you if Sunbeam wasn't a main Character whose PoV is known. Sunbeam felt more and more disconnected from both her mother and her Leader, not knowing which side to choose. Since every choice she had would be bad, she decided to choose what would make her happy.
I agree with this. Shes very much being shoved into the "Oh shes doing this because the Erin's write women like they'd write a dog's pov" but thats so unfair when we know that her relationships aren't deep enough in ShadowClan for her to stay there. I'm a woman and people are consistently accusing me of living for my husband when in reality he's genuinely my best friend and he would never force me into anything. I cook for him and clean for him because I like do those things for him but to so many people I'm not allowed to do that because I'm being his servant or something. Its not entirely the same but it's Similar enough for me to relate to it. And BerryHeart is absolutely emotionally abusive, which most people never care to factor in
@@slimjim4823 I don’t think it’s an issue for Sunbeam’s arc but it’s an issue with Nightheart. At least Sunbeam and him should’ve been apart longer. But Nightheart should’ve been allowed to feel the weight of his actions more
@@anoushkashenoy692 Well that happened in Thunder ^^ I wonder what Akira thinks about their relationship now.
8:18 - I swear, if they kill her off before she becomes leader, I'm going to be MAD.
Ik. It’s so sad but it’s so set up with how easy the build up to her becoming leader was that something is definitely going to stop her from getting her nine lives :((((
Honestly, I’d be pretty happy. I don’t think she’d be a very good leader XD
@@shadowedpath6446 yeah. What we saw of her as leader when Bramblestar was in the Dark Forest shattered my want for her to become leader. She was too weak and did not know how to handle conflicts properly, some of her own cats left to “rethink” their life in the Clans!
It seems pretty clear to me that Sunbeam is coping HARD with her heartbreak by suddenly showing up in ThunderClan, ready to switch clans for Nightheart. It feels like the same spur of the moment decision that Nightheart made when he went to ShadowClan. I don’t think she’s *actually* happy or hopeful. I think she’s just covering up how she feels now that she thinks she has an out from her loneliness.
I'm not sure Nightheart's character deserves the hate it gets. I think a lot of people hold on to the fandoms version of Sparkpelt and that Nightheart's feelings toward her are overly emotional and unjust but looking at it solely from the canon books and thinking of her kits perspectives his feelings are just. Most of the hate toward the character that I've seen comes from people defending Sparkpelt but again just reading the books she is horrible to him and then his sister even begins to side with her. The way his sister, mother, and Squirrelflight treated him were awful and his descion to leave was warranted I really wish that the love plot wasn't involved and he left solely for himself but it's warriors what else is new. I also want to say he was a bit of an angsty teenager like when Alderheart was offering him advice and he refused it solely because Alder wasn't his father (that's stupid but his character is just starting out so it needs to develop from something). Night heart is by no means my favorite character and honestly by warrior cat standard is a decent one.
he’s my fav of the three protags
Haven't read the book yet, but what if Sunbeam is a spy? She's going to ThunderClan to spy on them for Berryheart. I've honestly been wanting a Sunbeam villain arc since the end of River.
would be cool but unlikely
That’s what I kind of thought
There is pretty much of a high chance that would happen because in Sunbeams chapters it never showed evidence of her wanting to join ThunderClan with Nightheart, it only showed her going mad and thinking that he cheated with Sorrelstripe and the whole time she was being manipulated by Berryheart! That's a very great and unique theory! :)
@@ardengroves isn't sorrelstripe nightheart's step mother????
Pretty sure that Sorrelstripe is Nightheart’s foster mom. If I remember correctly, while Sparkpelt was depressed because of her mate and one of their kits die and was unable to take care of Nightheart and Finchlight, Sorrelstripe took care of them instead until Sparkpelt recover enough to take care of Nightheart and Finchlight. Also I’m pretty sure that Nightheart at some point in River admits that he wishes that Sorrelstripe was his actual mother.
Honestly though, poor Frostpaw- that scene where Splashtail calls her "suggestible", and saying he has "ways of making her more so", like Frost baby, he's using you!
I know I feel so bad for her!! She's so young I hope she finds out soon how bad splash is
so oblivious
I cannot wait for squirrelstar but she better not choose lionblaze
P. S As someone said in the comments ivypool for deputy!
I imagine she would. (I want TWIGBRANCH)
I don't see why she wouldn't she chose him before when she was standing leader 🙄🙄 lionblaze is not a good deputy he has to short of a temper and the broken code arc proved that
She might honestly, really every tc leader recently has chosen a cat they have a connection to
Blue star chose her apprentice fire heart
Firestar chose his friend graystripe then his apprentice brambleclaw
Bramblestar chose his mate squirrel flight
Some good options that aren’t cats she has a direct connection to are
Poppyfrost
Mousewhisker
Cinderheart
Whitewing
Molewhisker
And ivypool
@YourLocalCatAccount yes I agree she would be a great deputy
Honestly Twigbranch, Ivypool, and Mousewhisker are my best candidates. Hopefully not Lionblaze because TBC showed everyone that he wouldn't be a good leader.) And hopefully she picks Mousewhisker, I want to see some drama between Mousestar and Minnowtail because he can't visit her as often and he can't switch clans as the new deputy lol
I like how it ends not ganna lie. As with it it gives more incentive for growth to be made and the writers made a good choice. Not only growth that can be made for others of nighthearts kin but for growth within berryheart; as berryheart should be giving unconditional love.
As a long-term Bramblestar fan, you have no idea how relieving his scene with Nightheart was and seeing him step down on his own, no conflict that forced him. He wanted this. This felt like the cat I fell in love with all those years ago, not... whatever the heck they did to his character ever since he gained his leadership. This was the character I love and relate to.
I DONT GET IT
It’s not Nighthearts fault that Sunbeam followed him. It’s a bonus, and it’s great!! Nightheart fixed himself and I think it’s a great ending
Nightheart could’ve been such a good character. I was rooting for him :(
Okay here’s my theory for splash tail and frost paw. I knew it from the start and was like to my friends like 2 weeks ago “ SPLASHTAIL MURDERED FROSTPAW!” he was the ONLY one who knew about frostpaws mission, he sent her over to windclan territory and masked his scent to make the scene of a windclan cat killing her so he could avoid frostpaw actually coming to the conclusion that splashtail (or duskfur) killed reedwhisker. Here’s WHY I think he did this, in the book you can see duskfur and splashtail meeting with berryheart and her group, duskfur seems to have the intention of becoming leader, and possibly by promising splashtail deputy position after his position was taken by icewing. Splashtail said he was going to make a medicine cat no matter what, and after frostpaw completely seemed sure of resigning her position as a medic, she had a vision… a specific one which would in danger splashtail and duskfurs plan which is why she was ruled out and had to be killed. So in short, I think Duskfur is the murderer with splashtail as her accomplice. Also I really hope that if they squirrelflight frostpaw ( as in resurrect her), they make a new role for her or keep her as a warrior apprentice, it’s more unusual for a warrior to have this skill and I think she’d be better off as a warrior instead of having another shadowsight.
To be fair, I'm so completely over forbidden relationships that I'd rather the conflict come from Sunbeam having to potentially fight her old clan and the inevitable tension it'll cause with her mother than another forbidden relationship, which it would have devolved into had Sunbeam not done that. There would have been no true breakup, I know the Warriors formula.
Granted I say this as someone that keeps up with the story almost entirely through youtube videos these days. Also the idea of Squirrelstar makes me ridiculously excited and makes me want to maybe actually try reading the books again.
why does it feel like a 0% chance were getting squirrelstar ._.
Cuz there is. The build up to her becoming leader was so easy that something is totally going to happen :((
8:20 but um Squirrelflight is going to get her nine lives.
Honestly even if she doesn’t, they’d better not kill her off.
Honestly, Nightheart had a lot of potential and still has potential to develop, and it was honestly very meaningful, even with Bramblestar surprisingly, it was a very meaningful conversation which honestly kinda makes up for the messiness of the last book. But yea the fact that there are no repercussions for his actions is frustrating, it’s like my problems with frozen ii, the fact that they claim they need to make a sacrifice and then doing a 180 on their promise.
Splashtail wants to be leader SO BADLEY, its talked about so much! He is the killer! He was willing to fight other clanmates over the leadership position, and he said hes trying to convince a cat there supose to steak to Starclan, and there the cat the clan needs, and the cat he keeps going back to is Frostpaw. He's even the only cat that new she would be in Windclan that night, and she was attacked. Its obviously him! I could even go back to the gathering when Mistystar dies, and theres no mention of him being in camp. I bet that Splashtail killed Reedwhisker in plans to be made the next depudy before Mistystar dies, but to his dismay, his plan fails because she dies too. So the only cat left that can make him leader is Frostpaw, but once again, his plan fails, because instead of receiving a prophacy about who the next leader should be, it is reveiled that Reedwhisker was killed. So to keep the word of the truth from getting out, he has to kill Frostpaw now, the only cat who can make him leader by communicating with Starclan
The way the end of Sunbeam's chapter doesn't line up with her in Nightheart's chapter, I really want to know what happened. And I'm kinda hoping she's a spy. idk how much I believe warriors would go through with this but... hope. just go off the rails, warriors.
It mirrors Nightheart decision to quit Thunderclan, neither of them thought it through before making their decision.
I am literally begging silently to Erin Hunter to NOT mess up Bramblestar stepping down and Squilf finally getting her nine lives.
And I personally found the fact that Sunbeam chose to go to Nightheart really wholesome, especially because she’s always seemed so committed to her Clan.
And also, when I saw this video yesterday or something like that, I knew I couldn’t watch it until I finished Shadow lol, so I finished it like an hour ago or something.
Isn't there resentment for betrayal in WC?... Because I really would like to have that extraordinary attitude that all she-cats have of forgiving their mates' betrayals so quickly, like Whitetail forgave Onestar or Reedshine when she forgave Appledusk.
Why she-cats only say something like "Yeah, you made a mistake, I'm mad, but it's alright, I love you!" and forgive so EASILY?! Grudge exists!
I was really hoping to see an independent she-cat who didn't need a mate to be happy, and BOOM. They ruin her again because she's "in love"!
I'm tired of forbidden romances, they are not special anymore...
But hey! SQUIRRELSTAR!! Pls, I need her!!!
Ikr? Like “hey I had a son with another cat while I was with u is that ok?” “Yep! I don’t see anything wrong with that!” UGHH
I dont understand why people complain that Sunbeam is ruined now, her character hasn't even changed that much. She's just in love with another cat now, but alot of her behaivour has always been driven by her romantic feelings
@@snakesareamazing And she has the right age to fall in love with someone too. She's not an apprentice and live a warrior life for a long time now.
@@snakesareamazing It's not the fact that she fell in love that bothers me, it's the fact that she made such a drastic decision to leave her clan after, apparently, being sad, heartbroken and betrayed to the point of thinking her mother was right about everything.
I mean, it was like she suddenly thought "Oh, I'm going to go with the cat I love even though he betrayed me and left me here!" Nightheart chose his clan before her, and she forgave him in a couple of hours? I wouldn't have a problem if it happened in a few chapters/books later, but being so suddenly it loses its impact and is kinda rushed.
@@danslyy She thought for a moment that she was right about Nightheart betrayal, but her words that came later changed her mind. She understood that her mother didn't absolutely care about her feelings, understood that both her leader and her mother made her choose a bad thing (either betraying her mother or her leader) (it's the last thing she says in her final PoV), so she decided to choose the one that would make her happy : Nightheart.
Actually, their reactions mirror each other. Both didn't think through their decision and hastily make their choice. Nightheart regretted his choice, would Sunbeam regret hers ?
Well, Think about it. Sunbeam just did what NightHeart did, and it’ll most likely end the same way, she will go back to her clan.
Lol “AND I’M SHAKING WITH RAGE” -2023, Bright Gaurdian Akira
WHY HATH I SAID AKITA I MEANT AKIRA
Sunbeam is young and feels like she can only rely on Nightheart, it makes sense why she would make such a rash decision. But I hope she comes to realize the consequences and ends up going back to Shadowclan
YOOOO SQUIRRELSTAR??? ARE WE GETTING SQUIRRELSTAR??? FINALLY??
I feel like the writers want to do interesting things but the publishers are like "grrr no interesting things"
Honestly, I think sunbeam and NightHearts relationship was forced however I think it worked out okay, (so to speak) I think that the Erin’s just wanted another forbidden love like bristlefrost and rootspring. I think the anti-hero would be interesting but I feel that’s not really sunbeams character, maybe the Erin’s will change this. I actually really enjoyed the newest book but I feel frostpaws story is sort of taking a different route. I was looking forward to the medicine cat trying to keep clan afloat kinda thing they already had and I’m sad to see frostpaw as a warrior. Tigerstar is insufferable as usual.. hopefully he gets his comeuppance Happy that bramblestar is FINALLY stepping down. Rooting for Ivypool for deputy tbh
The writing seems different to me with Nightheart and Sunbeam. They seem like they're becoming good friends, but besides her thinking he's handsome, we don't get much beyond good friends it feels like. I could be wrong of course, and of course good friends can blossom into more. But I have a feeling they won't end up together.
I think this could've worked if they kept it vague on if Sunbeam wanted to join thunder clan of if she simply wanted to see how Nightheart was doing
or maybe have spent time showing Sunbeam getting genuinely fed up with shadow clan issues and making either an impulsive decision or properly thought out one
I was so surprised at the end of the book,I expected Sunbeam was coming to say a final goodbye,not join the clan!I’m really hoping there’s a purpose to this and not just some thing thrown in there as a last minute decision.
Honestly super torn on this book. Even though I'm still not a big fan of NightSun, I did kinda warm up to Nightheart in this book. The scene where he claims he and Sunbeam are in love gave me *intense* second-hand embarrassment but it was also kind of endearing, it's such a stupid teenager thing to do. At the same time though I'm not really convinced he and Sunbeam have any chemistry and am a little worried about her just getting reduced to his love interest.
Even putting how I feel about the pairing aside, I feel like Sunbeam going to Thunderclan was a bad idea writing-wise because she and Nightheart are now farther away from the action going on in Riverclan, which imo is the best part of this arc. I do think Nightheart & Sunbeam's story is interesting, esp with how it follows up on the code changes from last arc, but it feels really disconnected from Frostpaw's story atm.
though i guess there's a chance that Frostpaw is just straight-up dead now lmao 😔RIP my dear failgirl
This is exactly what I'm saying. Since looking at the description for the next book while frostpaw doesn't seem to be dead, she does seem like she's going to be traveling to the original territories which means we aren't going to have a perspective in both riverclan and shadowclan.
I truly hoped Night'Heart would do all that, then wouldn't get accepted back into ThunderClan because Squirrel had already gotten her 9 lives and was REALLY angry at him. And, I would have liked Sun'Beam to get influenced by her mother, ofc. I feel like it was... fine what they did, but it could have gone so much better.
I love this! You always have amazing points though I disagree with some but I fully agree with everything in this book. He had so much potential
THIS! I haven't seen anyone else mention this despite it being my personal biggest issue with the book! The last chapter was so frustrating too read, i was imaginig this interesting dynamic between two of the main charcaters, but no. We didn't get it.
If Sunbeam started to go wrong after that, it would have ruined her character even more.
@@groudonvert7286 she wouldn't have had to "go wrong" but feeling betrayed and distancing yourself is normal and should have happened
@@billcipher8645 Not necessarily, I think she knew that it would happened eventually. I mean, she was stressed seeing him talking to his sister. She felt betrayed because he didn't talk to her beforehand.
I'm glad Bramble retired, he shouldn't be leader with his mental health and issues it's making more conflict. But squirrelflight should not be leader and I have plenty of reasons..
Reason 1: She's 11, I do not want another MistyStar
Reason 2: She's shown multiple times she wouldn't be a good leader she isn't even a good deputy. (Waiting for ppl to come for me, ps I'm not saying bramble should be lead still)
Reason 3: Can we just STOP with firestar relatives or whatever being high ranks?! It's ANNOYING.
Reason 4: Idgaf what anybody says, Bramble went through a lot and deserves to retire. He's father, squilf getting upset over him bonding with his brother, his brother evil or whatever, leading a clan, people breaking rules left and right and causing major problems, his deputy going behind his back MULTIPLE times with things that could cause WARS, being possessed and helpless to do anything that's a LOT.
Agreed!!!
After reading book 1 and 2: Aw, Splashtail and Frostpaw would be a good couple.
After reading book 3: Oop, oop nevermind forget I said I said that
I honestly think that Bramblestar has become better. After all his trauma, maybe he deserves a second chance. I don’t want him to be leader, though, I want to see if Squirrelflight does well or if she even becomes leader, and Bramblestar and Squirrelflight seem to be cool with each other I’m the end. I hope Bramblestar stays honest and better from now on.
I CANNOT WAIT FOR THUNDERRR (Pls don't kill Squirrelflight on her way to the moonpool Erins)
More likely starclan will reject her for some reason 😭 I really hope she gets to be leader because she deserves it!!
FRRR
I love nightheart. He is relatable and i kin him fr. I love sunbean and nightheart
Me personally, I loved the last few pages of shadow as im a huge fan of sunbeam and nightheart being together forever!!
The thing is we don't know what Sunbeam was thinking when she decided to go to Thunderclan. So she could of very well realized how much Nightheart did love her and wanted to be with her but just didn't fit with Shadowclan, but we'll never know what went through Sunbeams mind at that time unless it's mentioned in the next books.
I don't think it ruined Nightheart. I think he will still struggle... a lot.
EDIT: Also, Sunbeam WILL face consequences for what she's doing. She's immature too- that's the whole point.
yea he’s definitely gonna struggle
OH BOY, i cant wait to see what they do with squirrelflight next book! I hope they dont kill her right before receiving her nine lives haha..
NO SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE LEADER!
Ms. Sunny gave me homework
Yeah, no, skip Nightheart going back to ThunderClan! Family are the ones who see your worth without having to be “shown.” If your mother and sister are true family, they see you for who you are and support you simply because you’re you. They don’t do what Finchlight and Sparkpelt did to Nightbheart. If your grandmother truly loves you, she makes time to listen to your problems and help you find solutions, not piles chores that others can help with on top of you and your alone like Squirrelflight did. I won’t say much about Bramblestar because he’s going through trauma right now, but I’m also not happy with how HE’S handles Nightheart’s situation, either. Has Lilyheart even SPOKEN to her grandson since he became a warrior? Have Alderheart, Honeyfur, and Leafshade EVER talk to him? Why is half of his family crap and the other half absent? Why isn’t Lilyheart or Alderheart telling Sparkpelt to get her crap together and be a good mother? Why does comforting Nightheart fall on SORRELSTRIPE, who is a relative but further removed than his sister, mother, grandparents, aunts, and uncle? Why does Nightheart even see Sparkpelt, who has been absent his entire life, as anything more than the ThunderClan cat who happened to give birth to him? She’s not a good mother, but he suddenly think of her as one because… Bramblestar said he has trauma? And why does ThunderClan NEED to get involved in moving ShadowClan out of RiverClan? Why can’t 2 Clans, whose territory flanks ShadowClan’s on both sides, be enough? Are they TRYING to reenact the Eclipse battle for SkyClan?
The Erin’s are sending a horrible message by sending Nightheart back. “It doesn’t matter how horribly your family treats you, they’re still family no matter what and you can’t abandon family!” You see this crap all the time in Reddit’s AITA sub. People who are mistreated all their lives and think that it’s “ok” and “normal” but then that final straw comes and they leave, only to be bullied into going back and continuing to be the families punching bag. Sending Nightheart back is sending a DANGEROUS message to people, especially the younger fans! If these characters were humans, wouldn’t we be looking at this situation differently?
A mother too racked with grief from a death of a loved one that happened YEARS AGO let’s it effect how she treats her son. She named him after her grandfather she never met for “reasons” (think, grandpa’s name was Johnathan, so mom names her son Johnny). He grows up hating his name and being compared to his long dead kin. His mother is absent most of his life and every time she tries to be close, she can only bring up her dead grandfather who, again, SHE’S NEVER MET. They get evicted at one point when the kids are teens and while his sister decides to live in the car with her mom, he chooses to stay with his grandparents in stable housing. But the situation doesn’t last more than a month or two. The son becomes a legal adult and immediately changes his name, but keeps the family name to stay connected to his mother, sister, and maternal grandparents (thinks Johnny Smith to Andrew Smith). He’s happy to have a name and legacy all his own. But his mother thinks she has a right to be upset over it. So she verbally abuses him then enlists her mother to help. Grandma is so caught up infantilizing her unwell husband that she can’t take a minute or 2 to question why her daughter wants her pile all her manual labor chores on him and not her other great grandchildren. She just does as daughter dearest asks and is SHOCKED when her great grandson hates it. So, Andrew Smith, not feeling loved by his family, moves to another township/county/whatever to be with his girlfriend. But now Grandma wants to stick her nose in other people’s business (just like the great grandfather Andrew was originally named after, which didn’t make him a very well liked person in other areas). It’s causing problems. So Andrew’s solutions is… to go back to the family that abused and neglected him because he wanted to be his own person? What would YOU tell a HUMAN in that situation? If you see Nightheart’s arc as a “feel good story about the importance of family,” will you still see it that way when put in the context of the characters being humans? Because it’s humans who read these books. If I can connect SOME of my own family abuse to Nightheart, who do you think readers in this exact same situation are going to feel? Especially the ones who were able to escape and never look back? The Erin’s ruined a good lesson about how if you want people to stay in your life, you need to treat them kindly ad turned it into a typical Reddit Karen’s wail of “but faaaamilllly!”
I’m so glad someone said this! It hurts me to see how hated Nightheart is because he’s understandably upset at being abused? As someone who’s currently trapped with parents who act like Sparkpelt, it hurts me to see just how everyone sees victims of toxic family.
@@MaddoxEzman exactly! I was also a victim! I legally changed my last name just to have one less connection to them (this account is old, so this is my old name, which is the family name of my abusive stepfather with anger management issues). And someone on another video was talking how “disrespectful” it was of Nightheart to change the name his mother gave him. Like… wtf is wrong with people! Nightheart was an adult choosing his own path in life! Sparkpelt was UPSET because he did something for his own happiness! What GOOD mother thinks her child being happy is disrespectful or an attack on family? My mom is toxic af and yet SHE “understood” why I changed my last name (she got it half right by saying she knew how her husband’s family could be unwelcoming, which… they were to me, but… not as much as her husband, but I wasn’t going to start a fight with her about something she was being supportive of for once). I had to move 5.5 hours to another state to begin to feel like I can start setting healthy boundaries with my toxic family. And that was AFTER having lived on my own and lived with my grandma (my mom’s mom who she hates because grandma doesn’t take her bs). Nightheart was taking care of himself after a lifetime of abuse and everyone is just crapping on him for not thinking of his abusers’ feelings. Like… what is wrong with people?!
i personally hate the way Lionblaze treats him like the audacity
@@rqktsushi7526 yeah like, Lionblaze is Firestar’s grandson and was once the most powerful cats in the Clans, he should know better than anyone how hard carrying Firestar’s legacy can be. He should have been standing up Nightheart and telling everyone to leave him be, let him be himself. But he only makes it worse!
About the villain
i think it's too obvious it's Splashtail... If it was really him, they would have already confirmed it to the Readers in some ways or another.
In "Into the Wild", that also has a murder, the identity of the killer was revealed in the middle of the book. There weren't that much characters involved, so it could be either Tigerclaw or Ravenpaw, so the culprit was obvious. In this case ? There are much more characters that we don't know much about (like in the first book, since there wasn't any PoV in Riverclan before), many possibilities with different characters having their own motivations.
Splashtail as a villain sounds too obvious to me.
Ok but he definitely had something to do with all this, and it had to be him who attacked Frostpaw bc he was the only one who knew she was going to talk to Whistlepaw that night.
What about Minnowtail? She was on guard when Frostpaw left and she has hardly been doing anything, idk what her motives would be, but I do think Splashtail is an accomplice.
@@Spidermonkey43 Splashtail also wanted Frostpaw to continue her role as a Medicine Cat. It's a bit strange that he'd wanted to kill her when he needs her...
@@Spidermonkey43 yeah that's what I was thinking to
@@groudonvert7286 that is a fair point. Perhaps he realized she wouldn’t be a med cat so he killed her?
opinion--- Nightheart and Sunbeam should move to a Clan (ex. WindClan) where they are away from both their controlling families. The fifth book will probably be called Wind, anyways (as Star probably comes last for the grand finale), so it's a good idea.
Sunnyfall sent me... I think? The instruction in the podcast were a little bit unclear.
I sat there at like page 20 like: alright so Frostpaw's gonna have a real vision about someone dying then be stressed about it and not know who to tell and then tell her mate-to-be, Splashtail, who is like 'hey maybe you should talk to another clan's medicine cat lol' and then attack her because he knew that he killed someone and NO ONE MUST KNOWWW and then I was right-
I'm actually planning on making a pmv about the excepted ending to Sunbeam's story
It could have been like Lionblaze and Heathertail, but more fleshed out and interesting..
Sunbeam will probably realize that she belongs in ShadowClan by the end of the next book, and Nightheart will be understanding, and everything that will have happened between them will be a bit pointless.
So wait if i understood right, SunBeam just walked into Tunderclan wanting to join or what? like... ahhhh, it could have been so good.
New video! Yay! U are the best RUclipsr. Stay safe out there and may Starclan light your path.
The Erins did Nightheart dirty 💀
BUT
But...
WE WILL GET LONG-AWAITED SQUIRRELSTAR!!!
Right?
...
right?
Honestly I don't even care if Lionblaze becomes Deputy JUST. GIVE. ME. SQUIRRELSTAR.
We better there's no reason not to give squirrelflight 9 lives
She's just going to get murked on her way to the moonpool despite how much everyone wants her to be leader 💀
She probably won’t get her nine lives because it would be messing with the whole shadowclan and riverclan want plus it’s way too convenient and it is what the fans want so ofc it won’t happen.
@@Spidermonkey43 it might you never know with these new idiotic writers
@@sweetwolfsteve5583 She might get 8 lives like Sunstar, but Idk if Tigerstar 2 did get 8 lives. So she might get 8 or 9 who knows
If only we got to see Sunbeam's reasoning! We know she has a flaw of being conflict-avoidant, and her chasing after Nightheart could have been motivated by not wanting to cross her Mother & her Leader -- probably the biggest conflict she's had to deal with in her life. She has the perfect cover to escape the situation, and while sad, it makes sense to me that she would run away, especially since it mirrors Nightheart's earlier behavior. If this series stays on a good track, there'll be a better explanation and consequences. That ending was jarring though.
Sunbeam had a choice between two bad decisions : betray her mother or betray her leader. She chose the only one that would make her happy in the end : Nightheart.
I don't think it'll be 9.
Considering that Pinestar being alive caused Sunstar to only get 8, that makes me think it'll be a similar circumstance with Squirrelstar.
Edit: oh my god. It sounds SO GOOD to be able to type that name!!!
If bramblestar goes to the moonpool and relinquishes his lives, then squilf gets the full 9 lives. Pinestar just left without going to the moonstone and stepping down in starclan officially
Ironically Bramblestar actually mentioned the circumstances of rowanstar and Pinestar surprisingly when talking to Nightheart.
It’s a good day with little dragon studios and bright guardian Akira posting on the same day
sunbeam did what she thought was best for her so its cool with me
Ngl when bayshine and sunbeam started to get close, I thought they’d start romancing each other while nightheart was away which could be a tragic wake up call to nightheart realizing he moved too fast, and sunbeam could realize nightheart was just a rebound
We don't have to accept Sunbeam as a ThunderClan cat until she's completed three trials, emotionally come to terms with going to war against everyone she grew up with, and, on a more meta level, found a way to continue the Beryheart's hate group plot line without a ShadowClan POV. They managed to make Nightheart become much less punchable relatively organically while (in my opinion anyway) still making him feel like Nightheart. (I mean look at him getting all offended at Berryheart and Yarrowleaf not complimenting the hunting skills of someone who's still paying his dues in a new Clan...but also accepting that he has to win Berryheart over and being forced to learn to swallow his pride.) They can give Sunbeam a similar character arc in the next book. *crosses fingers*
What they should have done is have the relationship between Sunbeam and Nightheart break and then they grow to hate each other. Sunbeam then gets manipulated by her mother into waging war onto the other clans and then realizes her mother was wrong before stopping her and loving Nightheart again. They killed an entire minor plot line they could have had. Sometimes I just don't understand the writers.
i honestly just cant believe the erins actually let squirrelstar exist
Akira! did you know your the reason I can roplay or make great warrior cats oc's and I love every ones art in the challenges. I can make ocs without struggling to see conflict that fears or motivates them to stop and stay or progress and go further. What are their cons and pros, what are IT'S love or clan or how do the other cats treat them. Keep it up! (Also I know this is off topic but This video is the best one ever!)
I feel like Sunbeam moving to Thunderclan was rushed, it seemed kind of out of nowhere. I'm hoping that in the next book, she realizes that she kind of did what Nightheart did and left her clan without thinking, and decides to go back to Shadowclan, especially since she was clearly conflicted knowing that if she joined Thunderclan she would have to fight Shadowclan in an upcoming battle.
Nightheart also rushed his decision to leave Thunderclan. Their decision mirrored each other (and I think it's wanted).
I’m actually really sad splashtail is a villain, I really liked him and was excited to potentially see him as leader
@YourLocalCatAccount please let him be good🙏
Ms Sunny gave me hw 👀
wishing Sunbeam had joined the protagonists
OK! So I haven't read this book yet. But the video gave me a good enough idea to start theorizing! So in the next arc we might get a 'nah no lives for you' situation, meaning as much as I hate it, odds are in the big upcoming war, Berryheart or splashtail kills squirrelstar, and the other sneaks over to thunderclan and kills brambleclaw, leaving thunderclan now without a leader, and shadowclan is free to take them over. Skyclan flees the battle after this. Sunbeam becomes the antihero, siding with her mother and trying to tell herself it's all for the best. Nightheart has never been in a real battle before this and is overwhelmed and scared, attacking any shadowclan cat he can. Somehow he pins down blazefire. Lightleap sees this, and attacks him with no mercy. She manages to either half blind him, or damage his leg so badly it has to be removed. He is tiptoed around back in thunderclan, and eventually after enough sad sighs from his mother, pitying looks from his sister, and hostile interactions with sunbeam, he decides to leave thunderclan, changing his name to night, and changing his pronouns to her, making her untraceable. (Yes I included trans nightheart) sunbeam is in agony over helping to kill two officials and after a heated argument with her mother, resulting in a notch in her ear, she leaves shadowclan and goes to help thunderclan rebuild.
I really wished Tawnypelt was in it more, she switched clans a long time ago and is Tigerstar's mother and Bramblestar's sister. You'd think she'd have more to say and do with everything that's going on! Honestly the writers forgot about her which is sad because I love her :(
I wouldn't blame Nightheart for having his cake and eating it too tho. He has a small moment where he's back in ThunderClan and acknowledges the sacrifice he makes but thinks it's worth it. It's only when Sunbeam decides on her own to come to ThunderClan that he loses that sacrifice. I don't agree with Sunbeam's random swap but it feels unfair to put that blame on Nightheart. He has very strong character choices through this book that get undermined by the choices of others at the very end
While all these things going on with Bramblestar, Squirrelflight, Sunbeam, and Nightheart is interesting.. I NEED to know whats happening with Frostpaw and who is this new villain.. Im suspecting Splashtail.
As much as I want their relationship to continue, I definitely feel like the whole second to last chapter was useless. Not only that, but we never really get a good idea of the WHY of Sunbeam's decision. Is it to spite her mom? Escape the war between Shadowclan and Riverclan? The last chapter honestly felt weird to me. It felt a bit random for her to show up, and almost a bit sus.
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE FROSTPAW SCENE DURING THE END OF HER LAST CHAPTER?!?! Can the Erins really kill her off? Or will StArClAn pull a Tigerheart/star revival? *visible confusion* and don't get me started on SPLASHTAIL. Couldn't the authors be a bit more... vague? And yes, I know thar it was very vague for the first two books and a bit of the third. I just want the villain development to be less noticeable until Thunder. EVERYONE KNOWS ITS SPLASHTAIL. He was REALLY uneasy when Frostpaw told him about her vision, like he didn't want to get caught! He even asked if she saw the fur color, and when she said no, I could FEEL the relief coming off him. And I'm guessing that he only told frostpaw that he liked her to gain her trust and make him seem innocent no matter what. And oh, with a former MEDICINE CAT APPRENTICE, EVERYONE would believe him! BUT he didn't want any cat to hear about frostpaw's vision, so he killed her before she could tell anyone else. And in Thunder, he is probably going to make everyone pity him so that he can LURE more cats right in to his gleaming claws! I'm not sure about the motive, but I'm guessing that he wants to be leader. So my question is: WHAT THE FLIP IS GONNA HAPPEN TO FROSTPAW AND WHEN ARE THE CATS GONNA REALIZE THAT SPLASHTAIL IS EVIL?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! (sorry about the rant)
Sunbeam has family in shadowclan too right? I'm sure they'll give the she-cat in the relationship equal consideration... right?
I wonder how much of this back and forth with inconsistency and occ moments are a symptom of several people writing these books at the same time.
idk why but i had a weird suspicion that sunbeam is some sort of spy.. like she said she's gonna join thunderclan but her mom put her up to it
I mean, there could instead be an exploration of the consequences of sunbeam leaving shadowclan now? Now no one is there to keep an eye on Berryheart, and she's probably go off the deep end now that her daughter has left. So there's still the possibility that instead sunbeam will now have to go back to her clan. We'll see?
I was sent my Sunnyfa- wait, sorry, I’m not supposed to say that. Uh.. great video!
Ah another bad writing with a she cat, of course, can't have a cat protagonist that doesn't exist for the Tom 😍😍(I'm so upset rn
I'm hoping Sunbeam returns to ShadowClan at the end of the next book.
Shadow: potential
Akira: yes….yes….YES….
Shadow: no
Akira: AAAAAAAAAA
Once again, they make another she-cat blindly follow a tom she likes despite him really hurting her. Great job, Erins.
Squirrel star, squirrel star squirrel star
squilf is gone
AND SQUILS IS HERE
I want Squirrelstar to happen so badly but knowing how Erins like torturing Squirrelflight n all she’ll probably die or _something_ before she gets the opportunity to become leader
Honestly I feel like both her and Bramblestar should die or retire and a warrior who we don't know a lot about and isn't related to Firestar can become leader and something interesting can finally happen. They need to break away from the whole "legacy of Firestar thing" all they do is talk about him. They need to move on.
Honestly as much as I want squirrelflight to become leader, I would honestly also be okay if she and Bramblestar retired to the elders Den together. No offense but she is just as old as bramblestar and has been through just as much crap. I just wish she could have her rest, in all honesty. My worry about squirrelflight becoming leader is that she's going to choose lionblaze as her deputy like she did in the broken code. And honestly that was horrible. And I do not think that lionblaze should be Deputy or leader ever in my opinion. Let him be an old grandpa now.
I swear I hope Nightheart tells her to go back to Shadowclan ugh
dude i wanna catch up with the fandom.. im on book series 5 rn...
I believe somehow Splashtail is working with Mapleshade because who else has a hate crime on riverclan and all she needed was a living cat to help her
I don't understand why everyone hates nightheart so much. He is a charater that I can actually relate with, and I see myself in him, the good and the bad parts. He is a pretty well writen character for recent warrior cats standards.
Imagine the Erin’s see this and then kill of squirlf in some cruel way (maybe like getting struck by lighting like shadowsight) and then just like after she killed killed fern cloud, she’s like “yoU HaVe YoUrsElVeS tO bLamE fOR sQuiRlFliGHt’S deMiSE!” Lol that would be hilarious but also sad.
I was so upset when Sunbeam went to Thunderclan. As far as I am concerned the love story should have ended with Sunbeam being heartbroken and abandoned. Nightheart should have gone back to his birth clan knowing that he will never gain back Sunbeams trust, maybe even initiating more conflict later in the arc or coming arcs as Sunbeam becomes more and more distrustful of others. They even set up Sunbeam going to Riverclan in her final chapter! I would have loved to see Sunbeam, crippled by her loss and insecure because of the heartbreak she has endured, find a place within Riverclan after Tigerstar sends her to live there, leave Shadowclan because going back reminds her too much of her pain, and become a strong and loyal warrior within Riverclan, and maybe even be the 'unexpected' cat Frostpaw was told should be leader. There was so much potential for the story! And I'm so sad that they threw it all away just for a bog standard love plot...
I really Hope I'm wrong and they redeem the plot, but I don't see how they will now that Sunbeam is another character who is nothing without their strong and capable love intrest by her side..