It's almost funny watching Warriors struggle to write gay ships without *quite* saying it and _just_ dancing around the vocabulary whilst over on Wings of Fire land a dragon openly refers to another as her girlfriend
Erins: "NoOoo, yOU caN'T JusT OpenlY SaY ThaT ThEY ArE a LGBTQI+ cOUple, tHE bOoK WouLn'T SalE BEcauSe of HoMOPhoBia." Tui: "Eh eh, gay dragons go brrr"
i've going to be honest: i really do not trust the warrior cats team to write gay romances normally or in a way that just wouldn't be borderline offensive. they can't be normal about woman so i'm glad it's never been touched. it's annoying as hell watching them act like any of the gay subtext was intentional on their end because i know most of the time it sure as hell wasn't. them trying to capitalise on that and act like they're books are so inclusive is a slap to the face when it's the fans that are doing all the real work here. "we love the gays" okay sure. it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth especially based on old stuff the team has said in the past regarding it :/
Literally though, Wings of Fire has showed two males cuddling and saying they love each other, Willow openly referring to Sundew as her girlfriend, and making note of a side character using they/them and having characters correct others when they refer to them with the incorrect gender or as "it". Not to mention the background mentions, like the non-binary librarian Sage, Anemone's crush on Tamarin, and Qinter coding.
Remember that time that Riley asked Ravenpaw and Barely why they hadn't gotten kits yet? That's the closest the Erins will ever get to saying Ravenpaw and Barley are mates.
@@w0lfie..x-.x damn that's crazy because wings of fire has been writing gay characters into their books for ages now with zero problems and the two series share the same audience. it's almost as like that's a very poor excuse.
i saw tigerstar x tigerstar and my heart skipped a beat like "??????????????????" for a split second before i realized they were talking about the same tigerstar LMAO
12:46 Brambleclaw x Ashfur (or, Shamble, as I like to call it) makes me laugh for the sole reason that I can imagine Brambleclaw breaking up with Ashfur and being like “what are you gonna do? Kill my family? Been there, done that”
never was into that ship but imagine the scene at sunset, but Ashfur gets impressed by brambleclaws decision to save firestar and this changes how he sees Bramble completely. Suddenly, Ash finds himself forgetting about squirrel and always thinking of bramble, which results in him awkwardly following Bramble silently. Now Bramble thinks this is either because he's with squilf or he fears Ash might tell everybody that he was reluctant to saving firestar. Sooner or later they would talk. And then what? They're still horrible.
Speaking of random ships, I really like NightHeart and BayShine. BayShine seemed CRUSHED when he found out NightHeart was leaving thunderclan, and I will forever see them in a silly love triangle because of sunbeam. But then sunbeam leaves and gets with lightleap because she deserves it
I don't like those kinds of ships, but I think Berry x Lion would be funny 'cause it's basically "grrr i hate him" when they absolutely can't stay apart.
My personal favorite ship is Thriftear x Plumstone. I don’t know of anyone else who ships them but it’s so rare for she-cats to have canonical friends in these books and I think it’s cute.
I love the idea of Frostpaw and Whistlepaw being together! They just seem like friends, which to be honest frost has been pretty alone and sad. Who knows... maybe Whistlepaw is that 'young warrior'...
I think Ashfur would absolutely date Mapleshade but would not love her. He would use her as a means to an end, which is just tragic for mapleshade. Also mapleshade is gay but has never acted on it, but it’s in her dreams and it terrifies her because she is ultimately most afraid of her own happiness.
2:39 Moonkitti: *"You do need to describe their dynamic in detail to people so that they don't think that they are siblings."* I mean- that's the thing, they kinda are, because Thunder was raised by Hawk Swoop. I've heard people ship Thunderstar and Lightning Tail, but me personally, I've never liked it, because I've always seen their relationship as a standard sibling like relationship, or a typical, no strings attached, leader and deputy relationship, or both. Nothing romantic. Now before anyone asks about this, I have heard the thing about Acorn Fur apparently having a crush on Thunder at a point, which would have the same "foster siblings" implication as Lightning Tail, but.. I've never really seen that either. I don't generally have a huge problem with *"foster"* siblings, eventually becoming mates, like... something like Whitestorm and Brindleface, but something about shipping Thunder with either of Hawk Swoop and Jackdaw's Cry's kits just feels different to me.
hopefully pepper is okay!!! my alternate universe crackship that ive had since i was a kid is eaglekit (crowfeather's sibling) and tadpole (sasha's kit) in a circumstance where they both live. i got nothing, it just amused me as a ten year old.
Funny thing about the Scourge x Ashfur ship I actually did that for real serious It's a Scourge reborn fic (Second Chances) and during arc 2 I just had them be friends but then the chemistry they had was too great and the story took hold and next thing I know they've adopted the three instead of Squilf for Leafpool
I read Leopardstars Honor and at the end there were a few pages of a manga about the happenings in season two. And after I read those pages, I begun shipping Mistyfoot and Leopardstar lol
I love the idea of transmasc redtail x runningwind, I wish we got more of them and them being sandstorms dads and squilf and leafpools' grandfathers is so wholesome to me. that is, if they could live long enough to meet squilf and leafpool...
I think Blossomfall and Berryheart begrudgingly working together to try to sabotage clan relationships so they stop being so close and doing that darn mates from other clans things only to slowly fall in love is hilarious
Honestly i feel like it’d be fun is AshMaple was like a one-sides thing from Mapleshade. Like- while he takes other the dark forest in The Broken Code, mabye Mapleshade helps because she’s s̶i̶m̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ trying to get him to like her, but Ashfur is too distracted doing his weird psichological warfare / flirting thing with Squirrelflight and then he ghost-dies never realizing Mapleshade had feelings for him and he could’ve been happy if he had only stopped obsessing over squirrelflight for one second.
A friend and I were the creators of Revengeshipping back in 2010, and I was like...thirteen, so we DID take it seriously back then, but again, I was thirteen, haha. It's wild to see it still brought up every now and then even today.
Dude when you mentioned that part of a vision of shadows I was like "NO DON'T SPOIL IT FOR ME" and tried to cover my phones speaker but I wasn't quick enough 😭💀
Lightning tail x thunder gives me life (DONT say how they’re adopted siblings, there’s been way worse) Edit: posted this comment before she rated it in the video lol. I just adore the ship and will defend it with my life
aaa Squilf x Moonlight is def one of my favorite Squirrelflight ships. my first is TawnySquirrel and next is SquirrelDaisy but SquirrelMoon is veryyy close up there with them. Just very adorable.
moonkitti, I love your content! can you do a video about wc maps? what maps are you’re favorite and what ones are you iffy about? what aus would you make? what’s the character that NEEDS one? what’s the most overrated in your opinion? which ones would you change? have you competed in a map? (thank you for POSSIBLY answering my questions from me and my.. 8 siblings!)
I know this is a Patreon Thing, but I have a ship I wanted to share: Bayshine x Nightheart. I always thought they were super cute and one day I thought “Hey, they’d be cute as mates” Since I dislike Sunbeam x Nightheart, this is probably my favourite Arc 8 ship so far.
Me realising that people only shipped Scourge and Ashfur together as a joke and I had been calling them cringe since i first started reading warrior cats 😃
Tree and Molewhisker is great. I want Tree to tease Molewhisker and get him to goof off. I want Molewhisker to both hate and be in love with Tree. Slow burn rivals to friends to lovers
I think the fact that Darkstripe was Longtail’s mentor was mentioned was in Into the Wild when Redtail died And Dustpaw (Dustpelt) got reassigned to Darkstripe. And I think Bluestar mentioned that Longtail was Darkstripes apprentice
Can you do. "Compliment or roasting your warriors OCs" and the people who want join comment their OCs name backstory clan and description. And you rate them 0-10 on how much they would fit in the book You don't have to tho
It's almost funny watching Warriors struggle to write gay ships without *quite* saying it and _just_ dancing around the vocabulary whilst over on Wings of Fire land a dragon openly refers to another as her girlfriend
Dude frrr
Erins: "NoOoo, yOU caN'T JusT OpenlY SaY ThaT ThEY ArE a LGBTQI+ cOUple, tHE bOoK WouLn'T SalE BEcauSe of HoMOPhoBia."
Tui: "Eh eh, gay dragons go brrr"
i've going to be honest: i really do not trust the warrior cats team to write gay romances normally or in a way that just wouldn't be borderline offensive. they can't be normal about woman so i'm glad it's never been touched. it's annoying as hell watching them act like any of the gay subtext was intentional on their end because i know most of the time it sure as hell wasn't. them trying to capitalise on that and act like they're books are so inclusive is a slap to the face when it's the fans that are doing all the real work here. "we love the gays" okay sure. it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth especially based on old stuff the team has said in the past regarding it :/
@@meevins yeah, let’s not forget how they treat most of the disable characters
Literally though, Wings of Fire has showed two males cuddling and saying they love each other, Willow openly referring to Sundew as her girlfriend, and making note of a side character using they/them and having characters correct others when they refer to them with the incorrect gender or as "it". Not to mention the background mentions, like the non-binary librarian Sage, Anemone's crush on Tamarin, and Qinter coding.
Remember that time that Riley asked Ravenpaw and Barely why they hadn't gotten kits yet?
That's the closest the Erins will ever get to saying Ravenpaw and Barley are mates.
I don’t know about Ravenbarley, but the erins said that Talljake is cannon but they can’t write it in due to the rise of banned books :[
@@w0lfie..x-.xdid you know, another country that banned gay books was n@zi Germany.
@@w0lfie..x-.x damn that's crazy because wings of fire has been writing gay characters into their books for ages now with zero problems and the two series share the same audience. it's almost as like that's a very poor excuse.
@@meevins it is an excuse, and I wish they’d just write it in but it’s the reason they gave :/
honestly i feel like warriors should already be banned in their minds bc of all the gore /death. (not that it should be taken out at all)
i saw tigerstar x tigerstar and my heart skipped a beat like "??????????????????" for a split second before i realized they were talking about the same tigerstar LMAO
SAME HAHAHAHA
SAME
RIGHT THE SHEER PANIC I FELT
SAME
BRUH SAME
12:46 Brambleclaw x Ashfur (or, Shamble, as I like to call it) makes me laugh for the sole reason that I can imagine Brambleclaw breaking up with Ashfur and being like “what are you gonna do? Kill my family? Been there, done that”
never was into that ship but imagine the scene at sunset, but Ashfur gets impressed by brambleclaws decision to save firestar and this changes how he sees Bramble completely. Suddenly, Ash finds himself forgetting about squirrel and always thinking of bramble, which results in him awkwardly following Bramble silently. Now Bramble thinks this is either because he's with squilf or he fears Ash might tell everybody that he was reluctant to saving firestar. Sooner or later they would talk. And then what? They're still horrible.
You mean soul? Or... Sol? 😮
The tallstar x jake x nutmeg x quince one, for me, is totally "this is my boyfriend jake and his wife nutmeg, and her wife quince"
Throw pinestar in there too
@@jaxlew8791 now thats one hell way of making everyone related
that is like "oh hey husband meet my 2 wives."
Quince, Nutmeg and Tallstar being Jake's bi harem is hilarious to me
I hope Pepper is doing ok!
What… happened? I’m Srry my memory’s a bit fuzzy rn
@@Est3ll3_1s_al1v3at 0:05 she says pepper has doctors appointments and might have surgery.
that’s so kind of you 😊
@@CybearSnapsty
@@Est3ll3_1s_al1v3 no problem
I love that at around 11:08 tree is just a picture of a cat dyed accidentally yellow
YES SOMEONE SAID IT!!! That image KILLED me 😂😂😂
Confirmed- if you are an aroace cat outside the clans, you are 70% more likely to become a villain
UGH 🙄
11:08 😂. Under the picture of Tree did anyone else read the caption:
“Women accidentally dyes her cat yellow” 😂😂😂
OML THATS AMAZING 😭
Yup , I knew Trees mother dyed him yellow!
Speaking of random ships, I really like NightHeart and BayShine. BayShine seemed CRUSHED when he found out NightHeart was leaving thunderclan, and I will forever see them in a silly love triangle because of sunbeam. But then sunbeam leaves and gets with lightleap because she deserves it
I totally agree, those two are amazing and deserve each other.
Unfortunately they're pretty much cousins, Bayshine is Leafpool's grandson and Nightheart is Squirrelflight's grandson.
@@Moonkitti oh shoot I didn’t even realize that! Thank you for telling me this before I went off and drew ship art or something 😭
NOOOO.... now who can I ship in the new arc.. 😢
Why's everyone gotta be related in TC 😩
The most important factor in any pairing imo is comedic potential, which means Berrynose x Lionblaze and Sunbeam x Lightleap are peak.
I don't like those kinds of ships, but I think Berry x Lion would be funny 'cause it's basically "grrr i hate him" when they absolutely can't stay apart.
My personal favorite ship is Thriftear x Plumstone. I don’t know of anyone else who ships them but it’s so rare for she-cats to have canonical friends in these books and I think it’s cute.
I ship it too
Finally someone who appreciates the beauty of Thrift X Plum.
I love the idea of Frostpaw and Whistlepaw being together! They just seem like friends, which to be honest frost has been pretty alone and sad. Who knows... maybe Whistlepaw is that 'young warrior'...
Yes!! OK it’s not just me
i can't believe lionberry just got the moonkitti seal of approval
I love Sunbeam x Lightleap so much 😭 friends to enemies to friends to lovers is such a fun concept to me, and it being sapphic makes it even better.
11:08 tree being neon yellow in that picture made me die laughing.
I’m so sorry about what is going on with Pepper. I know how stressful surgeries and some vet visits can be. I hope he does well!
The work around for ApplePoppy is hilarious
I think Ashfur would absolutely date Mapleshade but would not love her. He would use her as a means to an end, which is just tragic for mapleshade.
Also mapleshade is gay but has never acted on it, but it’s in her dreams and it terrifies her because she is ultimately most afraid of her own happiness.
You mentioned having a lot to say if patrons submitted alternate universe ideas. I would LOVE to see that!!!
Princess/rusty role swap story.....
I love the idea of Leopardfur getting together with Sunfish.
I really hope Pepper is doing well❤️ his name is adorable)))
Good luck Pepper 🤞 may you recovery speedily and well so we can hear your beautiful screeches again
u know its a good day when moonkitti posts a video of moonkitti expressing mooncat opinions😻🔥
I belief in pepper!!!!!!! Also I would 1000% watch a “moonkitti ranks/rates warrior cats AUs” video
2 minutes of moon expressing her opinions on fictional cats and their potential to get with each other? yes PLEASE
Sorry to hear about Pepper, he doesn’t deserve that 😔 good luck lil fella, you’ll do great and be the healthiest you’ve ever been ❤️
2:39 Moonkitti: *"You do need to describe their dynamic in detail to people so that they don't think that they are siblings."*
I mean- that's the thing, they kinda are, because Thunder was raised by Hawk Swoop. I've heard people ship Thunderstar and Lightning Tail, but me personally, I've never liked it, because I've always seen their relationship as a standard sibling like relationship, or a typical, no strings attached, leader and deputy relationship, or both. Nothing romantic. Now before anyone asks about this, I have heard the thing about Acorn Fur apparently having a crush on Thunder at a point, which would have the same "foster siblings" implication as Lightning Tail, but.. I've never really seen that either. I don't generally have a huge problem with *"foster"* siblings, eventually becoming mates, like... something like Whitestorm and Brindleface, but something about shipping Thunder with either of Hawk Swoop and Jackdaw's Cry's kits just feels different to me.
hopefully pepper is okay!!!
my alternate universe crackship that ive had since i was a kid is eaglekit (crowfeather's sibling) and tadpole (sasha's kit) in a circumstance where they both live. i got nothing, it just amused me as a ten year old.
Julia Drawfee Bobby Hill?!?
Tree as a dyed yellow cat had me rolling 💀
I recently saw someone ship Hazeltail and Breezepelt. I was a little perplexed but I think it’s growing on me. In a silly crackship sorta way.
Read crowfeathers trial it will grow on you way more lmao
You me Heathertail? I'm talking about Hazeltail. Berrynose's sister.
@@applesplashwarriorcats8339 oh whoops sorry read it wrong
the picture you used for scourge at 5:30 is killing me
LMAOOOO
Good luck Pepper, we're all hoping the best for ya!!
I wish the books made sandstorm like her apprentice self but she doesn’t beat up firestar anymore
Such nice videos! Most ships are great and I could see them! You really showed a way they could be a ship. Keep up the good work
good luck Pepper! Hugs and treats from Ireland!
Wishing your little kitty good luck on the maybe surgery. 😄
(I love the accidentally yellow cat for tree)
Funny thing about the Scourge x Ashfur ship
I actually did that for real serious
It's a Scourge reborn fic (Second Chances) and during arc 2 I just had them be friends but then the chemistry they had was too great and the story took hold and next thing I know they've adopted the three instead of Squilf for Leafpool
Thank you moonkitti for the best jayfeatjer award, truly the highest honor of all time
EVERYONE WAKE UP ITS MOONKITTI🎉
I’ve literally been staring at her channel for hours waiting for a new vid
I read Leopardstars Honor and at the end there were a few pages of a manga about the happenings in season two. And after I read those pages, I begun shipping Mistyfoot and Leopardstar lol
I love the idea of transmasc redtail x runningwind, I wish we got more of them and them being sandstorms dads and squilf and leafpools' grandfathers is so wholesome to me. that is, if they could live long enough to meet squilf and leafpool...
I think Blossomfall and Berryheart begrudgingly working together to try to sabotage clan relationships so they stop being so close and doing that darn mates from other clans things only to slowly fall in love is hilarious
Goodluck Pepper! Hope you get better!
YESSS MORE GAY CAT SHIPS
Yaya
Yesssssss
YAAASS
Embrace the gay 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Yessss
I am absolutely obsessed with bi fireheart/star and have way to many au's of him dating different people 😭
Honestly i feel like it’d be fun is AshMaple was like a one-sides thing from Mapleshade. Like- while he takes other the dark forest in The Broken Code, mabye Mapleshade helps because she’s s̶i̶m̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ trying to get him to like her, but Ashfur is too distracted doing his weird psichological warfare / flirting thing with Squirrelflight and then he ghost-dies never realizing Mapleshade had feelings for him and he could’ve been happy if he had only stopped obsessing over squirrelflight for one second.
Buff warrior Sandstorm with her dainty little queen wife Princess is *chef's kiss*
Good luck, Pepper! Sending good vibes your way
I was just thinking.. Tigerstar I and Mapleshade?? Either as a ship or a power-hungry murder duo?
i wish pepper luck!!!
also im so glad moon also loves sunlight me toooo
Would love the AU version of this series!!!!
A friend and I were the creators of Revengeshipping back in 2010, and I was like...thirteen, so we DID take it seriously back then, but again, I was thirteen, haha. It's wild to see it still brought up every now and then even today.
Dude when you mentioned that part of a vision of shadows I was like "NO DON'T SPOIL IT FOR ME" and tried to cover my phones speaker but I wasn't quick enough 😭💀
brambleclaw x ashfur would be so toxic and i NEED it. its like watching something burn therapeutically
YESS also have amazing luck Pepper !!
The sun and shadow part was pretty cool of how there names were
The yellow cat for Tree made me lose it
Lightning tail x thunder gives me life (DONT say how they’re adopted siblings, there’s been way worse)
Edit: posted this comment before she rated it in the video lol. I just adore the ship and will defend it with my life
Good luck with your maybe surgery Pepper ❤
I like runningwind x fireheart because runningwind is cool and is head over heels for fireheart
aaa Squilf x Moonlight is def one of my favorite Squirrelflight ships. my first is TawnySquirrel and next is SquirrelDaisy but SquirrelMoon is veryyy close up there with them. Just very adorable.
Yay! We love you, Moonkitti!
Highly appreciate the exceedingly cute cat pics throughout this video
hope pepper is okay!!
Absolutely do a version of this but with Alternate Universes the next time you need to quickly shit out a video, I love these.
2:38 moonkitti tell this DuplexBeGreat person that their enstars pfp is giving me life.
Crossing my fingers so hard moonkitti will make an AU video some day
I shoulda specified my big polyam firestar family
Tallstar is only dating Jake, Nutmeg is only dating Quince
Jake surrogate dad for Nutmegs litter ❤
wishing Pepper goodluck!! :D
9:03 I wish sunfish was not just a plot device, but besides that I love sunfish
Good luck pepper ❤
I love that blossomfall’s cat picture is just eating a branch
Good luck, sir pepper
moonkitti, I love your content! can you do a video about wc maps? what maps are you’re favorite and what ones are you iffy about?
what aus would you make?
what’s the character that NEEDS one?
what’s the most overrated in your opinion?
which ones would you change?
have you competed in a map?
(thank you for POSSIBLY answering my questions from me and my.. 8 siblings!)
@moonkitti please!
I love the princess x sandstorm stock image so much look at those little guys
Scourge's picture LMAO
I know this is a Patreon Thing, but I have a ship I wanted to share: Bayshine x Nightheart. I always thought they were super cute and one day I thought “Hey, they’d be cute as mates” Since I dislike Sunbeam x Nightheart, this is probably my favourite Arc 8 ship so far.
So glad Pepper is doing okay! Thanks for rating the classic-est of classic gay ships from ye olden warrior cata for me. 🕺 Hashtag JustSayMate!
cat ships 2: electric boogaloo
Feeling better Pepper!!!
Me realising that people only shipped Scourge and Ashfur together as a joke and I had been calling them cringe since i first started reading warrior cats 😃
Okay but can we just appreciate the picture used for Tree
I hope Peppers issues get better! Stomatitis is painful poor kitty :(
The cat in the thumbnail looks like my bsf ‘s cat whattttttt
Only here so my comment doesn’t get deleted
I was just watching the other ships videos and then this one was uploaded
GOOD LUCK PEPPER!
importantly the stock picture used for dovewing looks just like my cat frank
Tree and Molewhisker is great. I want Tree to tease Molewhisker and get him to goof off. I want Molewhisker to both hate and be in love with Tree. Slow burn rivals to friends to lovers
I love the Tree picture
Question, can we have a mini talking kestrel flight video? He hasn’t had much attention as other back characters.
Pls keep doing this series it my fav one!
Sandstorm x beating up greystripe is my new favorite ship
Blossomfall and Berryheart would’ve a fun story. Like they keep finding excuses to see each other and try to play it off
im gonna cry, when they said " egg's ship! " i thought they said... " *egg's shit!!* "
Darkstripe x Longtail is a hard pass for me personally because wasn’t that dude Longtail’s mentor as revealed in book one or am I crazy
I think the fact that Darkstripe was Longtail’s mentor was mentioned was in Into the Wild when Redtail died And Dustpaw (Dustpelt) got reassigned to Darkstripe. And I think Bluestar mentioned that Longtail was Darkstripes apprentice
Good luck Pepper!
Moth Flight’s ghost and Heatherstar 😏
Can you do. "Compliment or roasting your warriors OCs" and the people who want join comment their OCs name backstory clan and description.
And you rate them 0-10 on how much they would fit in the book
You don't have to tho
The dovewing looks exactly like my cat siren