Judging Cat Ships

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @doctrfaustus1738
    @doctrfaustus1738 Год назад +4426

    The appeal of Bluestar and Yellowfang to me is mostly just 'I think Fireheart's two moms should hook up'

  • @lillieampurra
    @lillieampurra Год назад +861

    sand/fire/gray is very much sandstorm saying "yeah this is my husband's boyfriend. i don't like him that much but we hook up sometimes'" and graystripe saying "that's my boyfriend's wife shes pretty cool"

    • @mckenna8461
      @mckenna8461 Год назад +30

      Very true

    • @Danmeilover69
      @Danmeilover69 Год назад +37

      I have loved this ship for a long time and I love your take on this.

    • @jeritheweirdchild
      @jeritheweirdchild Год назад +5

      Fr

    • @FaithBetta
      @FaithBetta 10 месяцев назад +34

      “It’s finally me and you and you and me and your friend Steve! Do do do do do do do Steve” 🎶

    • @KikitheArtCat
      @KikitheArtCat 7 месяцев назад +34

      I'm SandStorm
      this is my boyfriend, FireStar
      this is his boyfriend GreyStripe
      this is GreyStripes girlfriend SilverStream

  • @abigailclark4999
    @abigailclark4999 Год назад +2396

    Crowfeather's picture being this round chubby boy when typical fandom depiction of him is lean and pointy and sleek is making me lose it

    • @billcipher8645
      @billcipher8645 Год назад +158

      I mean, he is drawn as lean and sleek because that's how the books describe him (as far as I remember)

    • @jamescantthink
      @jamescantthink Год назад +181

      lmao yeah, its a wink at the chubby amber eyed crowfeather official art

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 Год назад +7

      hes Smol

    • @yrthebest_.
      @yrthebest_. Год назад +12

      he chonky

    • @Jay_Borger
      @Jay_Borger Год назад +20

      he looks like a rotisserie chicken

  • @burcusphuc4910
    @burcusphuc4910 Год назад +2042

    I haven't been in the Warroir cats fandom in nearly 3 years and coming back to this video is like getting clubbed over the head trying to remember who the fuck these cats are.

    • @Dosia142
      @Dosia142 Год назад +17

      How could you come back to this particular video if you haven't been in the fandom for the past 3 years

    • @lilythearcticfox
      @lilythearcticfox Год назад +187

      @@Dosia142 The RUclips Algorithm be like that sometimes. It's happened to me before

    • @Rainworldissosigma
      @Rainworldissosigma Год назад +25

      Bro its the same thing being behind in the books because you joined late, that's my problem

    • @i_ate_the_context
      @i_ate_the_context Год назад +1

      Same

    • @honeybeehomicide6760
      @honeybeehomicide6760 Год назад +16

      Same haven't read a book since bramblestars storm and oh lordy lol

  • @kat6249
    @kat6249 Год назад +1122

    Just a reminder, Stormcloud would stay up all night to be with Sparkpelt, for many days, to comfort her after Larksong’s death. He clearly cared about her.

    • @foxygrin
      @foxygrin Год назад +38

      They honestly make so much sense it hurts that they're not. I think Nightheart having some kind of relationship with Stormcloud as his step-dad, whether positive or negative, would have been a really great move too.

    • @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist
      @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist Год назад +24

      ​@@foxygrin+
      To be fair there's still a chance that it may develop in the books. If I'm correct Nightheart and Sunbeam are Thunderclan cats (again for Nightheart) and it would be healthy for the books to have a good family ties resolution with Nightheart and his family. Stormcloud can even tie it together if the Erins know what they're doing.

  • @slavicandsapphic7446
    @slavicandsapphic7446 Год назад +888

    “I believe in gay Toadstep so I can’t approve this” is an iconic moonkitti quote i feel

  • @cantsalvagethis
    @cantsalvagethis Год назад +387

    the idea of firestar shrugging and just. changing sexuality. like actively changing sexuality is. REALLY funny to me.

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Год назад +44

      Abrosexual Firestar-

    • @AngelaTheKittypet
      @AngelaTheKittypet Год назад +17

      @@seineeveei was gonna reply with that lmao-

    • @suceedingaroace
      @suceedingaroace 10 месяцев назад

      @@seineevee im adopting this as canon

    • @theMyRadiowasTaken
      @theMyRadiowasTaken 9 месяцев назад +31

      being gay isnt a choice unless youre firestar

    • @RedRattt
      @RedRattt 7 месяцев назад +10

      Being gay is a choice and Firestar should chose to be gay for Longtail or Greystripe or Onestar. Or chose bisexuality. I want him with a lot of other cats.

  • @quicksilveryt4000
    @quicksilveryt4000 Год назад +911

    Cinderpelt: Hey Fireheart, did you know that Longtail likes you?
    Fireheart: *Instantly becomes Bi*

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Год назад +24

      But the problem is when rusty joined Thunderclan longtail was a fully trained young warrior and as for rusty you couldn't exactly call him an apprentice yet since he just turned 6 moons so rusty was still a kit when he joined Thunderclan while longtail was a warrior

    • @soldiaz7261
      @soldiaz7261 Год назад +103

      @@Limenade8 6 months is not a kit though. he objectively did not join as a kit, because he joined as a ‘paw. and most warrior pairings met while one was an apprentice. i mean, by arc 2 or 3 they’re very very similar age- and experience-wise. this isn’t my ship but making up “problematic” facts that are actively disproven in canon to argue with people is weird.

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Год назад +9

      @@soldiaz7261 Yeah i know most pairs met when one was an apprentice but it doesn't justify those ships either

    • @dumbidiotbird2147
      @dumbidiotbird2147 Год назад +30

      implying he wasn’t already

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Год назад

      @@dumbidiotbird2147 implying he wasn't already what?

  • @limazy
    @limazy Год назад +142

    "Shipping Alderheart is like shipping a piece of cardboard."
    I love that line

  • @i.j.dragonfly3123
    @i.j.dragonfly3123 Год назад +187

    Firestar/Onestar gets an additional boost when you remember how Onestar treated his canon love interest. Being infatuated with a kittypet only to turn on his heels and reject them later because he's scared of judgement would be very in-character for him. Oh, the tragedy...

  • @kateb6699
    @kateb6699 Год назад +741

    I love Bluestar x Yellowfang, both for the idea of that relationship being a healing experience for them and because it's conceptually funny to me for reasons I can't really articulate.
    I just love the thought of Bluestar seeing this old kind of smelly cat and being like 👀and immediately deciding to keep her in Thunderclan no matter the cost

    • @melanopygus
      @melanopygus Год назад +90

      They're my favorite ship lol I love those old lesbians

    • @tfstarrynight
      @tfstarrynight Год назад +106

      bluestar x yellowfang is the butch4butch warrior cats needs 😩

    • @fishbrain9591
      @fishbrain9591 Год назад +73

      @@tfstarrynight You cannot contain my love for old, battle-scarred butches being in love and healing together

    • @laurenhenry5671
      @laurenhenry5671 Год назад +13

      They’re so cute ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @andistansbury4366
      @andistansbury4366 11 месяцев назад +15

      Bluestar: *looks at Yellowfang* so you're also Fireheart's mom?

  • @4LCOHOL
    @4LCOHOL Год назад +399

    the only warrior cats shipping vid that doesn’t mention jayfeather x stick. nature is healing

    • @heelturn2
      @heelturn2 Год назад +38

      thjs brings me so much whimsy & joy for reals

    • @BunnyandMoon
      @BunnyandMoon Год назад +26

      oh my god, you brought that back from the deep recesses of my brain

    • @BunnyandMoon
      @BunnyandMoon Год назад +16

      I haven’t been an active fan since I was 14, I’m 22 now haha. Still has a special place in my heart.

    • @AngelaTheKittypet
      @AngelaTheKittypet Год назад +19

      The nature sure healed jayfeather, the STICK healed him

    • @Silliest-guy-the-ever
      @Silliest-guy-the-ever Год назад +6

      MY SHIP IS JAYxTHAT ONE GHOST STICK

  • @Blixemi
    @Blixemi Год назад +198

    47 seconds in and I'm sold. I want to steal "Mothpool is perfect" as a soundbite tysm

  • @LocalLazyStove
    @LocalLazyStove Год назад +389

    I’m surprised ShrewXSquirrel wasn’t mention, since many people ship them, which I can see why, they’re both were apprentices around the same time and mention to be good friends and because it’s not BrambleSquirrel lol.
    Also I personally see Hollyleaf being aroace and I will forever think that.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад +27

      Shrewxsquirrel? Hmm time for an au… also I 100% agree with aroace Hollyleaf.

    • @LocalLazyStove
      @LocalLazyStove Год назад +25

      @@Spidermonkey43 YESSS. Instead of Squirrelflight getting together with Bramblestar, she gets with Shrewpaw, who either never got hit by the twoleg monster or got hit, but survived.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад +24

      @@LocalLazyStove and then Bramblestar just goes and dies bc who needs Bramblestar

    • @LocalLazyStove
      @LocalLazyStove Год назад +15

      @@Spidermonkey43 Rest In Peace, Bramblestar. You will be missed… *not*

    • @miceron
      @miceron Год назад +4

      i love love squirrel and stormfur too!

  • @w0lfie..x-.x
    @w0lfie..x-.x Год назад +725

    Cody is leafpool’s bisexual awakening

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +455

    "They'll just really unceremoniously kill off the female character who's in the way of their ship."
    OR what they'll do is character assassinate that female character in order to set up character A with character B. Which I kind of like MORE for some reason? It's just absurdly entertaining but it is also concerning when writers do this option because it can completely turn a fandom AGAINST a character, or it can cause a fandom to COMPLETELY misinterpret a character which happens a LOT.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад +38

      The second option can become annoying when these two characters are totally in love then suddenly she’s like “I dOnT kNoW iF i LiKe YoU aNyMoRe” out of nowhere (that or they just start arguing for no reason) it can be pretty annoying although sometimes it can be funny how obvious it is that the authors just don’t want to kill the character (bc we can’t have their love interest go through character development noo) so they just… destroy their character I feel like when I become an author I’d have so much fun with that 😂

    • @varibunn
      @varibunn Год назад +29

      They also end up making the girl abusive in some way to push the boys together ugh

    • @Night_Willows
      @Night_Willows Год назад +31

      I don’t get why they can’t just slightly change the relationship and make the canon love interest just a friend lol. The options are death or becoming a terrible person. And it’s not even just canon ships, I’ve seen people do that with members of other popular ships that compete with theirs. Like back when I was into attack on titan I read some Eren x Armin fic on wattpad and they made Levi Armin’s transphobic bully in high school (it was an au where Armin was trans.) And like?? Not only would Levi never do that but also he is like 30 so it’s funny that they put him in high school

    • @calliethewolfcat2183
      @calliethewolfcat2183 Год назад +18

      I absolutely hate character assassination, and NOTHING in a story pisses me off more than that. Especially when it happens to a character I personally like.
      If you have to kill the character off or ruin them to make your ship work, then it isn't going to.

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Год назад +3

      @@calliethewolfcat2183 yyyyep

  • @ironreaversoulstealer
    @ironreaversoulstealer Год назад +507

    The most disgusting thing isn't whatever weird ship, but the fact that Moonkitti uses light mode discord.

  • @Eclipse-x6z_Ceo_of_ZipClaire
    @Eclipse-x6z_Ceo_of_ZipClaire Год назад +657

    FINALLY,someone who realizes Fallen Leaves was possessive and rude.

  • @countessspiritclaws5465
    @countessspiritclaws5465 Год назад +134

    I do really like Rosetail and Snowfur, but personally I’ve always shipped Bluefur and Rosetail. Maybe it’s just because I’m a lesbian, but I read Rosetail as someone secretly, hopelessly in love with Bluefur. I think she’s constantly talking about crushes with Bluefur because she has a crush on her, and she tries to subtly get a feel for Bluefur’s feelings. I think she pushes Bluefur towards Thrushpelt because she’s being self destructive and she believes that Bluefur will never return her feelings. She watches his crush on Bluefur so carefully because she views him as competition, but in her mind he’s already won because she doubts herself so much.
    When Rosetail finds out that Bluefur is pregnant, her bizarre reaction is something I’ve always seen as the response of a cat who’s just had their heart broken. It’s weird that she just assumes that Thrushpelt is the father, but I think it’s because she was already so intimidated by him and convinced that he was going to win over Bluefur. It’s also very weird that she immediately goes to ‘congratulate’ Thrushpelt without getting permission or even confirmation that her hunch is true. However, I think that it’s her way of saying “you won, I hope you’re happy with her because she loves you and not me.”
    You could really view Bluerose as either being genuinely unrequited love or just love that Rosetail thinks is unrequited. Personally I do love the angst potential, but I also like to imagine an AU where Rosetail confesses and the two end up together, with Rosetail adopting Bluefur’s kits and helping to raise them.

    • @imissyourmom
      @imissyourmom Год назад +23

      Bro, i don't even ship BlueRose but i love your ideas! I love your perception on rosetail and i think it fits very much. great job, i got invested.

    • @radiiclaws8068
      @radiiclaws8068 Год назад +6

      Never thought of the ship name bluerose before now and i love it

    • @asthejayflies
      @asthejayflies 10 месяцев назад +2

      im kinda shipping agnostic wrt warriors but you just sold me on bluerose. i can get behind that story, id read that fic

    • @lindseylindsey9200
      @lindseylindsey9200 3 месяца назад

      I’ve heard people call RoseBlue “lavender” and BlueYellow “green” and I think it’s funny

  • @CelesteTreecat
    @CelesteTreecat Год назад +460

    Alderheart x Puddleshine gets a lot of its fuel from when they have to stay in ShadowClan together. Alderheart putting his life on the line (sort of, I don't really think Tigerheart's threats held much water) and living in an enemy camp to look after his friend is the sort of kickoff point a lot of ships would use. I feel like Alderheart brings a lot of Platonic romance on board in his hypotheticals though and I'm okay with that.

  • @MysticMetaKnight
    @MysticMetaKnight Год назад +339

    So.... would BrambleCrow unite and become the Ultimate Misogynist?

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Год назад +66

      MisogynistShipping /j

    • @jayford4589
      @jayford4589 Год назад +38

      ​@@seineeveeThe ultimate toxic ship 😂

    • @int3rn3t_bugg3r
      @int3rn3t_bugg3r Год назад +27

      @@jayford4589they’re perfect for each other then lmao

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 Год назад +67

      Brambleclaw yelling and Crowfeather brooding would be like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable wall.

    • @Birbzz
      @Birbzz Год назад +17

      LMFAOOO I HAE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD ON A YOUTHBE COMMENT

  • @redracersbiggestfan
    @redracersbiggestfan Год назад +59

    genuinely i love love LOVE bluefang because it’s just firehearts moms being all cute together and if it’s too boring for you? oh just add graypool! then it’s a polycule of old lesbian women who are all firehearts moms. i also totally subscribe to the idea that bluepaw and yellowpaw met at a gathering and started dating in secret because they’re from different clans and it was a teenage dating sort of thing where they snuck out to see eachother, but then when she got exiled from shadowclan she was just like “oh shit, lemme just go visit my old girlfriend from 45 years ago” and went to thunderclan territory purposely to see if she could find bluestar again and then they got happily married and never ever died.

    • @dali-dog
      @dali-dog Год назад +6

      I’ve never given two braincells to any warrior cats fan pairing before now, but suddenly this comment is actually making me interested in writing this. I’m not going to, because I literally never finish writing anything, but it’s a really sweet idea lol

    • @jeritheweirdchild
      @jeritheweirdchild Год назад

      ​@@dali-dogsame

    • @KateStines
      @KateStines 2 месяца назад

      I love this idea

  • @Niosesore
    @Niosesore Год назад +162

    watching this video knowing very little about warrior cats is hilarious, i just have to photos of cats and their funky names and i'm like "yeah they dont fit each other, NEXT"

    • @bluesheep7
      @bluesheep7 Год назад +52

      4/10, colours don't blend together nicely, and also not enough fluff. Next!

    • @Niosesore
      @Niosesore Год назад +28

      @@bluesheep7 EXACTLY. This is the most fun thing I did all day ngl lmao

    • @killuazoldyck7442
      @killuazoldyck7442 Год назад +6

      I love this comment 😂

    • @Jxzlmao
      @Jxzlmao Год назад +6

      LOL same, dunno what a warrior cats is but this is funny to me idk why 💀

    • @killuazoldyck7442
      @killuazoldyck7442 Год назад +6

      @@Jxzlmao warrior cats is a book series 😂

  • @loki_is_tired
    @loki_is_tired Год назад +163

    One of my favourites is BlueRose. I just love the idea that the reason Rosetail is so insistent on Bluestsr and Thrushpelt is because she’s in love with her. I love disaster lesbians.

    • @aeroxoxo
      @aeroxoxo Год назад +11

      I love bluerose

    • @chinyoka2387
      @chinyoka2387 Год назад +11

      That's also one of my favorite ships!

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Год назад +8

      Don’t ship it, but name sounds so cute

  • @ironwolf5802
    @ironwolf5802 Год назад +187

    I think the Blue Fang ship would have started out with a fight about kits but would be super close. Would be also hilarious thinking about them sasing FireStar till the end of time.

    • @mayayuki5032
      @mayayuki5032 Год назад +2

      I can imagine the meme about monopoly
      Firepaw : maybe we should stop playing

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Год назад +450

    The fact she's also giving us the "What would Warrior Cats look like in Real life" that some people search for in the entire community...
    Edit: Broo... That's the most likes I've ever got... Tysm, guys~

    • @jedi_cat_l4976
      @jedi_cat_l4976 Год назад +7

      The sad thing is that there apparently isn’t a picture of a cat with their face half injured so Moonkitti had to just use a blinking cat for Brightheart.

    • @melanopygus
      @melanopygus Год назад +13

      ​@@jedi_cat_l4976that's the opposite of sad

    • @waddle..666
      @waddle..666 Год назад +12

      @@jedi_cat_l4976i get what you mean when you say “it’s sad” considering bright got done dirty even with her picture but at the same time i’m glad there’s no cat who went through any sort of trauma related action to look like her

  • @Cali_wcGacha
    @Cali_wcGacha Год назад +186

    Bluestar and Yellowfang is my comfort ship. Just two crazy old ladies who find comfort in each other 🥰

  • @Rayneworld
    @Rayneworld Год назад +53

    "The answer is simple: Firestar becomes bi on the spot" had me laughing so hard, it's very true.
    Also I loved all the silly stock photos, it reminds me of when I was like 10-11 and searching for picture to fit of my warrior cats rp OCs LMAO.
    Edit: I'd love to see another video of this sometime if you feel up to it! Very entertaining. Also I'm all for poly ships but I feel like most the ones we saw here weren't great lmao like... greystripe... crowfeather... I don't have any warrior cats ships but I kind of hope so see some fun poly ones eventually!

  • @varibunn
    @varibunn Год назад +130

    Shadowsight and Rootspring will always be peak to me because of how much potential the two had

    • @varibunn
      @varibunn Год назад +43

      Like consider: the cat who can see ghosts versus the cat who is a ghost for half of his arc. Root feeling insecure about himself but grows in confidence thanks to Shadow boosting him up, which leads to Root becoming more tied to the plot as not only can he see Bramblestar, but Shadow is tied to Bramblestar's fate. Have the two work to solve the mystery together, there's some angst with Shadow being a ghost hakf the time and risking his life, all the while Bristle becomes ace or a lesbian and does all the heavy lifting for the two boys and lives happily as Thunderclan's newest deputy under Squilf. Good day /for fun

    • @miceron
      @miceron Год назад +1

      YES.

    • @juliedillion3942
      @juliedillion3942 Год назад +2

      ​@@varibunn TYSM FOR DOING GOD'S WORK‼️‼️‼️❤❤❤

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Год назад +3

      They are so canon to me

    • @yuuisanL
      @yuuisanL Год назад

      REAL OMG i was looking for a comment like this.. also les bristle

  • @CairoCreations
    @CairoCreations Год назад +47

    I don’t really do shipping in this fandom but I got called a slur because I think Runingnose and Nightstar are cute together. This fandom is crazy man.

    • @an_egg_wow
      @an_egg_wow Год назад +7

      Agreed. This fandom can be very terrifying.

    • @Mx._M_o_t_h
      @Mx._M_o_t_h Год назад +6

      Some people be crazy jeez (talking about the person who called you a slur like Jesus Christ)

    • @theMyRadiowasTaken
      @theMyRadiowasTaken 9 месяцев назад +5

      IM SORRY THAT HAPPENED BUT THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER TO ME

  • @sinwolfe4868
    @sinwolfe4868 Год назад +82

    After Bramblestar’s storm I really thought Cherryfall x Stormcloud would happen due to how close the two get plus Bramblestar hints at the two possibly becoming mates and then it never happened

    • @vilmublues752
      @vilmublues752 Год назад +11

      I think the writers literally just forgot it was a thing + RIP the Clan actually having new blood.

    • @marymccann3500
      @marymccann3500 Год назад +1

      I always thought they were going to hook Frankie aka Stormpaw up with Lilypaw due to both of them losing their siblings that book and helping each other cope with the grief.

  • @Answeredriddle
    @Answeredriddle Год назад +121

    ‘Mothpool is perfect I have no critiques’ fantastic analysis A++++ 10/10 all I needed to hear

  • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
    @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Год назад +130

    taking this opportunity to bring up my Leafpool x Sol au, because Sol was right about everything to do with StarClan and the writers had to make him do morally bad things in order to justify him being a villain. And StarClan mega screwed Leafpool over- They’re also my two favorite characters. I just like ‘em. So yeah, Sol convinces Leafpool to abandon her corrupt religion.

    • @lilaniloxi
      @lilaniloxi Год назад +14

      that is a pretty interesting idea for an au actually

    • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
      @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Год назад +5

      @@lilaniloxi thank you! hehe

    • @simratgill-pp5zk
      @simratgill-pp5zk Год назад +14

      Thats cool! I have an au where leafpool gives up her kits to the twolegplace, cuz squilf refuses to take them/yellowfang doesnt lie about her being barren. sol sees it and is reminded of how he was abandoned to twolegs and he decides to take them in. Basically its an evil 3 au

    • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
      @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Год назад +7

      @@simratgill-pp5zk That’s so cool!!!! I’d love to hear about that 👁️👁️

    • @mirosawanowak3427
      @mirosawanowak3427 Год назад +2

      I hate this ship. Good au though.

  • @TonySnacc
    @TonySnacc Год назад +93

    I really hoped squirrelsol would have shown up just bc that ship is absolutely hysterical to me
    also, for your consideration: greypool/yellowfang/bluestar. the color co-parent polycule. I think the old women should have a weird, difficult-to-properly-label relationship that's just a bit too tender to be entirely platonic. But they are Not Dating. don't even worry about it. Oakheart is also there. He has a (small) crush on Thrushpelt because I think it would be Funny. all of this is happening in starclan in front of a mildly horrified stonefur and an ecstatic mosskit. do you see the vision.

    • @chinyoka2387
      @chinyoka2387 Год назад +13

      I like the way you think

    • @whispyr_
      @whispyr_ Год назад +11

      oh that's so fun i love that

    • @sagefeather3405
      @sagefeather3405 Год назад +6

      Thank you for offering us this headcanon, I am now taking it.

    • @redracersbiggestfan
      @redracersbiggestfan Год назад +6

      i’m liking the way this is going.

  • @wolfieolfie
    @wolfieolfie Год назад +55

    20:07 poly relationships don't have to be 100% romantic! firestar could love sandstorm and graystripe, gray could like fire, and sand could like fire, but they don't all gotta kiss !!!
    and also it could be a funny dynamic with sand and grey loving fire but sand and grey themselves absolutely HATING eachother. like a romcom situation

  • @Gold_Pup
    @Gold_Pup Год назад +146

    Everyone will always be entitled to their own opinions, but Hollyleaf will always 100% be aroace to me.

  • @MambaDraws
    @MambaDraws Год назад +117

    I like thinking Jayfeather is aromantic and I really don't think he'd do good with anyone anyway. Mousewhisker x Minnowtail is cool

    • @mayfightu
      @mayfightu Год назад +6

      I agree

    • @minecraftstar_
      @minecraftstar_ Год назад +23

      Jayfeather is definitely on the aromantic spectrum in my eyes but I’m not sure he’s 100% aromantic (probably grayromantic) because of his time-travel relationship with Half Moon

    • @MambaDraws
      @MambaDraws Год назад +23

      ​@@minecraftstar_ I have decided to either completely ignore Half Moon or just say Jayfeather has a hard time diferentiating between romantic like and platonic like. I have trouble with it so I never thought I was aro until recently when I realized everything I felt was platonic.

    • @aggressivelyme9657
      @aggressivelyme9657 Год назад +24

      @@minecraftstar_ My headcanon is that Half Moon is his comp-allo crush because she is unattainable on like, 3 different levels (he's a medicine cat, time travel, she was actually dating his past life not him). So he tells himself that he's in love with her 'cause he thinks she's cool and there isn't the risk of it working out and him actually having to /act/ on any feelings.

    • @spaghetti_circle
      @spaghetti_circle Год назад +3

      I live for AroAce Jayfeather

  • @coyotix
    @coyotix Год назад +28

    I can hear Moon's eyebrow raising when talking about Featherfern. "Why was SHE blushing, _HMMM?_ Is it because she's _PRETTY?_ "

  • @bluesheep7
    @bluesheep7 Год назад +59

    My own crackship is Tigerclaw X time traveler Darktail escaping death and finding old Thunderclan.
    Both idiots just staring at eachother like, "uh, muscle man" and they start singing opera to eachother.

    • @batsnghostz
      @batsnghostz Год назад +7

      Omg….. need this au

    • @kateb6699
      @kateb6699 Год назад +11

      Your mind is so powerful

    • @oko5771
      @oko5771 Год назад +3

      Clever mind you have here sir

  • @Bee8467
    @Bee8467 Год назад +76

    16:38 moonkitti says aro rights (no but seriously people should make more platonic relationships that are extremely close and important, just in general)

    • @Reincarnated_Pheonix
      @Reincarnated_Pheonix Год назад +22

      Please 😭 my aromantic heart needs more cute platonic things

    • @Bee8467
      @Bee8467 Год назад +11

      @@Reincarnated_Pheonix SAME

  • @treplox4318
    @treplox4318 Год назад +50

    What? No Talltail x Jake? I'm gonna riot

    • @treplox4318
      @treplox4318 Год назад +16

      Maybe I'm way too oldschool but man...

    • @thefoxandthehound81
      @thefoxandthehound81 Год назад +17

      everyone already knows they’re cannon. no point in debating

  • @chaseashley6775
    @chaseashley6775 Год назад +69

    I wish there were more development for Brambleclaw and Stormfur as friends and foster brothers.

  • @ophisidian
    @ophisidian Год назад +99

    the way that warrior cat ships often can't avoid being related and/or cat a knowing cat b when they were an apprentice/kit

    • @bluesheep7
      @bluesheep7 Год назад +7

      Fr

    • @Cenmeow
      @Cenmeow Год назад +14

      literally ferncloud x dustpelt

    • @geministrial950
      @geministrial950 Год назад +19

      Well yeah thats kinda what happens when you forbid any relationship outside the literal less than 600 characters in the same geographic area.

  • @brainmeat2330
    @brainmeat2330 Год назад +51

    gray and fire will always be one of my faves. the way they act when they see each other in a light in the mist was cute and funny

  • @lizardparty_
    @lizardparty_ Год назад +66

    u summed up my thoughts on squirrelcrow very well. in my eyes they just would not get along. especially dont like it when brought up as an alternative to bramblesquirrel. like crow would Not be that amazing of an alternative 😭 he has a looottt of issues to work through. if squilf were to date anyone else at all id want it to be a happy and very healthy relationship. also LET HER DATE WOMEN INSTEAD

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад +7

      I’ve seen bramblecrow before and those two both have a whole lot of issues to unbox so hey maybe those two can be the “have extreme issues” couple

  • @shelbcake
    @shelbcake Год назад +39

    I'm probably one of the few who ship Mapleshade/Myler and if it wasn't for Mapleshade rejecting his friendship due to him being a kittypet, it would have been a much healthier relationship than any Appledusk ship

    • @miceron
      @miceron Год назад +1

      this. i fucking love this ship

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Год назад +12

      She still probably would’ve been clingy, but I’ll allow this

    • @shelbcake
      @shelbcake Год назад +4

      @@Littlefox1213 I think she's allowed to be clingy especially as she met him AFTER her kits drowned and her mate revealed he was cheating on her XD

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Год назад +11

      @@shelbcake Er- she was also clingy to Appledusk? And no, being clingy to your partner isn’t a good thing, especially if she believes that because she had Apple’s kits, he can’t and will never leave her and will always defend her, and that he’s only hers and hers forever.
      Being obsessed/clingy to someone is never a good sign, especially if you don’t allow anyone to come near them or interact with them.

    • @No-longer1
      @No-longer1 Год назад +4

      @@Littlefox1213
      … I don't recall Mapleshade being particularly clingy or obsessive towards Appledusk in her novella? I mean she had the "if I can't have him you can't either" but it reads more like "I suffered alot of shit so you are going to suffer too". I don't think we get a whole lot of insight on what Apple and Mapple were like as a couple because it's largely unimportant to the tragedic nature of the story.

  • @someoneoutthere3232
    @someoneoutthere3232 Год назад +22

    Proposal: crowfeather × bramblestar. And then we just have to make sure they don't involve anyone else in it.

    • @imissyourmom
      @imissyourmom Год назад +12

      Imagine the disaster Bramble x Crow x Ash would be

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Год назад +3

      @@imissyourmom Yeah, leave me out of that

  • @catswork
    @catswork Год назад +28

    i havent read a single book from this series in over 6 years and yet here i return clawing my way back like a deathly dehydrated animal

  • @greenteaandtattoos6903
    @greenteaandtattoos6903 Год назад +60

    My favorite ship is GrayRiver - River Ripple (Riverstar) and Gray Wing. Do these cats only appear in the less-than-well-written prequel series? Yes. Do I still love them and the ship to death anyway? Also yes.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад

      Why is it than everyone LOVES Dawn of the Clans? The second half of that series completely fell off and I feel like it’s like the Star Wars Prequels, it’s different and everyone is “nostalgic” over it.

    • @minecraftstar_
      @minecraftstar_ Год назад +14

      @@Spidermonkey43I think it’s just because we’ve been looking at the Clans for 4 main series before that, so different groups, even though they _do_ become the Clans in the end, is kind of relieving

    • @jjsstikbotvideos4421
      @jjsstikbotvideos4421 Год назад

      YES! I love them

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Год назад +1

      @@Spidermonkey43I think it’s mostly the concept people like, because the execution of it is less than ideal

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Год назад

      @@seineevee mmm

  • @boxyboyalmex2896
    @boxyboyalmex2896 Год назад +47

    A rare-pair(not sure how rare it is) i have is purdy x midnight, but not as a romantic ship, i think that they got together because they liked hanging out with eachother and just being with eachother made them both happy, a silly old couple that could talk to eachother for hours but only eachother because only they can stand listening to one another. the platonic old couple that definitely drive kits to boredom with how much they talk(old couples are the best kinda ships, and if its a platonic ship it makes it infinitely better)

  • @PaleBird_Sun
    @PaleBird_Sun 5 месяцев назад +8

    I love Cinder X Holly but Holly being at least aromantic (Maybe aroace) Is heavily implied. I cant remember which book but I remember a line where Holly says she doesn't want to be in a romantic relationship, or something along those lines.

  • @Ebonyfire
    @Ebonyfire Год назад +73

    An interesting format. And good thing you mentioned that it's okay not to like a ship/couple somebody likes and the other way around. Sometimes people really start fights over someone's opinion as if they care to not prove their point but change this opinion, eh.
    Anyways, it was nice to find out how I felt about these couples, too, cuz I've always been more of a person to criticise existing couples, once I thought about who I could ship I could barely come up with more than... three?😅
    So outta these ones I'd say I like and/or just interested in are:
    Onestar and Firestar.
    Sparkpelt and Stormcloud a little bit.
    Shadowsight and Rootspring. Which was a surprise to me. As well Firestar and Longtail.
    (Why is Ivypool and Fernsong a ship though? With Brightheart and Cloudtail if these are canon?)
    It was interesting to listen to your monologue, too, even if I often don't agree with your opinion.

    • @corvidaeae
      @corvidaeae Год назад +7

      The exact meaning of "ship" depends on which circles of fandom you're in, but for a lot of people shipping is purely referring to the couple, not implying the canonicity. Canon ships are ships just the same.

    • @Ebonyfire
      @Ebonyfire Год назад

      @@corvidaeae, okay then...

  • @shnukyfan2008
    @shnukyfan2008 Год назад +22

    I'm not particularly a SandxFirexGray shipper but I can understand it as someone in a throuple that's just me and two absolute clowns one being the person that enables and makes the other worse, you get used to it and start loving to watch them stay up all night coming up with different song parodies where the main joke is a 2012 YTP meme, that's what SandxFirexGray is and I've seen it I live in it so it's real

  • @Rainworldissosigma
    @Rainworldissosigma Год назад +29

    Bluestar x Yellowfang is one of my favorite ships despite lacking context. Both being mentally unstable, I feel like Yellowfang would help Bluestar off-camera and if i'm remembering right on-camera but I haven't read those books in awhile. I still love the concept since Yellowfang is my second favorite cat other than Jayfeather.

  • @Cali_wcGacha
    @Cali_wcGacha Год назад +39

    "Toxic Redtail and Tigerclaw"
    ah. okay.

    • @hnitsua
      @hnitsua Год назад +1

      that fact she had to say toxic (dat timing i scrolled down and saw this right when she said it)

  • @kwithcat
    @kwithcat Год назад +13

    My favorite which I haven’t found anything on is just FireGray (Fireheart and Graystripe)
    Fireheart’s words here:
    Actually copy pasted from the books
    “But no cat could feel more strongly for Graystripe than Fireheart had done, for four long seasons.”

  • @lepzieo
    @lepzieo Год назад +33

    Snowrose is actually a cute ship! i never knew it existed at all but that seems awesome! :D

    • @lindseylindsey9200
      @lindseylindsey9200 Год назад +3

      Snowfur named Rosetail when they were both kits that doesn’t make it bad or anything I just think it would make this funny

    • @lepzieo
      @lepzieo Год назад +5

      @@lindseylindsey9200 I think it's pretty funny, and knowing that Thistleclaw did some bad stuff, Rosetail could just go "Hey" to Snowfur.
      And also considering that Thistleclaw is in the Dark Forest, they just go share their grief together.

  • @SquilfstailTri
    @SquilfstailTri Год назад +29

    About sand x fire x grey, I feel like it wouldn't work because sandstorm is the cat who needs constant reassuring and affection to fight back her fear of love fading. It's hard to explain but I feel like Graystripe couldn't be able to do that(not like Firestar actually does but at least sandstorm does sort of trust him as a friend too) and dating 2 catss in general will be stressful for her assuming she starts fretting about whether they both will leave her out or something

  • @Sleeper2k
    @Sleeper2k Год назад +23

    I NEED to know your thoughts on Tawnypelt x SquirrelFlight, and Jayfeather x Poppyfrost
    Especially the former, I love the idea of Squilf just finding out Bramble's sister is a much nicer person who's also had mate/clan/kid dying issues (to a much lesser extent with tawny on mate problems but still) and just meeting up with her in the middle of the night so she can give tawny a little kiss
    anyways tawnysquirrel rights do you see my vision

  • @phia4497
    @phia4497 Год назад +24

    My one ship is from way back when and it was Jayfeather and Kestrelflight - I’ll never forget the time Jayfeather appeared in his dream and he’s completely friendly and doesn’t think it’s weird that he’s there.

  • @EaseeCheesee
    @EaseeCheesee Год назад +16

    I love Bluestar x Yellowfang because YEAHHHH GAY OLD WOMEN!!!

  • @killuazoldyck7442
    @killuazoldyck7442 Год назад +30

    "What if Cinderpelt told him that Longtail likes him? The answer is simple, Firestar becomes bi on the spot." - moonkitti 2023

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Год назад +23

    3:11
    "Slim, Sleek Squirrel Lady"
    6:48
    "F l o o f y Squirrel Lady"

  • @cameron9087
    @cameron9087 Год назад +6

    "outliers who live in a cave" made me laugh. graystripes georg

  • @seineevee
    @seineevee Год назад +8

    *Sighs, quietly opens AO3’s tag search*

  • @spacecadet8612
    @spacecadet8612 Год назад +50

    I could see Leafpool and Sorreltail solely because they both give off "free love" vibes- I don't see Brackenfur approving but we are disregarding him

    • @lilaniloxi
      @lilaniloxi Год назад +20

      i dont see brackenfur not approving this,,, the dude's a nice, wet piece of cardboard he wouldn't care as long as sorreltail's happy in my mind

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Год назад +32

    6:35
    No one:
    Not a single soul:
    Moonkitti: "Crowfeather with yellow eyes"
    Edit: Just noticed, She uses the Yellow eyes pictures everywhere for him... 😅

    • @meeplol145
      @meeplol145 Год назад +2

      I think it’s because he was drawn with them in one of the guide books

    • @ghostpelt
      @ghostpelt Год назад +6

      In TNP he is pretty much always mentioned having yellow eyes except for like...three times (2 times saying they are blue and 1 time they aay they are green). He starts having blue eyes in PoT

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  Год назад +39

      Wasn't about to find pictures of solid black cats with blue eyes without Photoshop or stealing from some obscure page about cats that are born without skulls if you breed two of them together

    • @Lemonade_29
      @Lemonade_29 Год назад +2

      ​@@Moonkitti XD

    • @jamietrites6696
      @jamietrites6696 Год назад

      @@Moonkitti why don't like midnight and rock

  • @LilyfIowashere
    @LilyfIowashere 10 месяцев назад +3

    GoldenflowerxSasha, they both suffered trauma from Tigerstar and I feel like their personalities really compliment each other! But they would also be cute just as friends :)

  • @catoncloudnine
    @catoncloudnine Год назад +8

    this but moonkitti judges patrons wc headcanons

  • @williamwayne4043
    @williamwayne4043 Год назад +9

    lolol I can see it now
    ShadowSight: So BristleFrost died along
    Rootspring: Yeah
    ShadowSight: Along with her ghost
    Rootspring: Yeah
    ShadowSight: So whatcha doing tonight... wanna hunt
    Rootspring: Aren't you a medicine cat
    ShadowSight: ....Wanna gather herbs, we could about depression.

  • @konarika2016
    @konarika2016 Год назад +3

    Oh god when you said "and then Firestar wouldn't have had any reason to not make Longtail his de-" I really thought you'd say "daddy" 😭😂😂

  • @storm.loves.reading
    @storm.loves.reading Год назад +17

    please talk about Sunbeam and Nightheart, i’m dying to hear what you think about it!

  • @smg4andtadcforlife320
    @smg4andtadcforlife320 Год назад +14

    feathertail: exists
    ferncloud: *bi awaking*

  • @kiru_red4691
    @kiru_red4691 Год назад +8

    I see SandxFirexGray with Fire as the poly person. Cause well, as you said, if someone had told him "Well, Sandstorm loves you, and Graystripe does as well" he'd just be like "Ok.." and set up a relationship with both. Gray and Sand would both equally love him but see each other only as friends and also sometimes be very annoying

  • @mineash2945
    @mineash2945 Год назад +11

    finally... fallenholly criticism in the main fandom...............

  • @ThornStudios2-pe2ud
    @ThornStudios2-pe2ud Год назад +8

    “Alderheart did feed Puddleshine poison to save his life that one time so I guess that could have done it” - Moonkitti 2023, talking about why AlderxPuddle is a ship (right before calling Alder a piece of cardboard)

  • @eeveetemmie
    @eeveetemmie Год назад +11

    Im honestly surprised no one mentioned Ashfur and Brambleclaw since that was a rising ship I think

  • @jaysey7666
    @jaysey7666 Год назад +11

    Okay but
    Squirrelflight x Feathertail anyone??
    Like cmon just imagine the day Firestar and Graystripe would have finding out their kits are dating

  • @clueless-person
    @clueless-person Год назад +6

    "umm hi, is this where flipclaw lives? CAN I LIVE WITH YOU?"

  • @danielbarnes1241
    @danielbarnes1241 Год назад +10

    "Fireheart would become bi on the spot"
    Yes siiiiiiir! She spittin'

  • @pincone7889
    @pincone7889 Год назад +9

    A ship I’ve always liked since I saw both the characters yet have barely heard anyone mention is whitethroat x littlecloud

  • @mimikyu__-
    @mimikyu__- Год назад +4

    8:13 my brother named our cat after shadow sight, it’s so strange to hear his name outside of my cat 😭

  • @elderlybrunch4169
    @elderlybrunch4169 Год назад +7

    Bramblestar X A pool of water he can look at himself in

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Год назад +23

    16:55 How did u find the most perfect picture for Sunbeamie? IT HAS THE MARK ON THE NOSE!

  • @Zzombeez
    @Zzombeez Год назад +8

    People always forget Redtail is canonically tigerstar’s uncle help😭
    Leopardfoot (tiger’s mum) is redtail’s older sister from a different litter
    Also no shade to moon for not knowing this we all know thunderclan’s lineage is a mess

  • @Skewer-rat
    @Skewer-rat Год назад +7

    This reminds me of my random ship I did as a kid with shadepelt and mudfur from Riverclan then when mudfur stayed behind and shadepelt did too I was like “wow it was confirmed” LMFAO

  • @candy1257
    @candy1257 Год назад +3

    bro it is so funny popping back into your channel every once in a while just to watch a video or two, because its been SO LONG since ive read these books that i have no clue what is happening, its amazing

  • @Sunnyfall
    @Sunnyfall Год назад +12

    Toadstep can be bi but he isn't gay. You would tear him from the other ray of sunshine, Moon? Are you so heartless?

  • @boxfullofdust9029
    @boxfullofdust9029 Год назад +8

    It's so bizarre to see the images chosen for Crowfeather, they aren't bad but I think chubby golden eyes Crowfeather isn't something I'm mentally prepared for

    • @meeplol145
      @meeplol145 Год назад

      It’s actually used in the Ultimate Guide books! And I think he was mentioned to have amber eyes at some point? Maybe I’m remembering wrong tho.

  • @starfinney6308
    @starfinney6308 Год назад +4

    Am I the only person who thinks One-eye the elder from the 1st series when I hear that name? Like I was confused for a hot minute when moonkitti was talking abt the Purdy x One Eye ship cuz I forgot the rude dawn of the clan cat was also named that

  • @fatimaanimales
    @fatimaanimales Год назад +6

    17:30 you should make a video about this ship and how the fandom and Cloudtail is very paternalist to Brightheart. He treats her horrible in Twilight, to the level Berrykit calls her ugly in front of him and he didn't say anything. I can't stand this ship, they put as the most beautiful just because a cool, handsome tom likes a scarred, ugly molly

  • @emmettrose5960
    @emmettrose5960 Год назад +26

    I think Bumble and Turtle Tail would work better if they properly supported each other in canon. When Bumble sought a place to stay after running from Tom, Turtle Tail jumped right on the bandwagon of “nope, you can’t stay here, you’re annoying and worthless to us, have you considered just going back to Tom?” It’s one of those ships that falls apart the second you reread the books.

    • @meeplol145
      @meeplol145 Год назад +2

      That pissed me off so much- then Bumble freaking dies next.

  • @2hr1ne
    @2hr1ne Год назад +4

    Cloudtail and Brightheart is so huge because it's one of the few healthy ships. I do also hate how Brightheart was pushed to the back (never let her be a proper fuckin mentor I am still frothing) but every time we saw them together, they were being very kind and loving, like mates should be. The bar was low and BrightCloud flew over it anyway.

  • @leafhoppery8817
    @leafhoppery8817 Год назад +5

    I can’t believe the OG of Jake x Tallstar wasn’t on this list.

  • @ezrahpeach5125
    @ezrahpeach5125 Год назад +9

    13:22 the firestar bi on the spot im dying

  • @silverrivers
    @silverrivers Год назад +5

    obsessed with the picture you picked for poppyfrost. she's perfect. I love her

  • @Leapingriver
    @Leapingriver Год назад +6

    I'm sorry the fact that ANYONE could be nicer to Squirrelflight than Brambleclaw, including his own EVIL BROTHER took me tf out 😂😂
    Like it's just so funny to think about those two on a scouting mission, squilf mad at bramble for being a horrible person and on this mission to prove Hawkfrost sucks and instead is treated I imagine more or less "professionally" between clan cats by Hawkfrost and she's like whoa. Is this love.

  • @toastyblankets241
    @toastyblankets241 Год назад +33

    Sigma BrokenstarxTigerstar 💪

  • @puuketo8315
    @puuketo8315 Год назад +5

    I think the best way sandfiregray would work if it went
    Sandstorm: this is my husband Firestar and this is Firestars husband Graystripe

  • @nikeyboy5371
    @nikeyboy5371 Год назад +8

    I was waiting for Tigerclaw x Darkstripe the whole time 😭😭😭😭