Depend on demand we manufacture our anchors in batches, for a specific 60 anchors batch made at the beginning of January, our regular galvanizing facility was shut down due to the Covid-19 pandemic, because of having many backorders that were starting to pile up we have decided to send the anchors to be galvanized in another facility, Steeve got his Viking 10 and 20 anchors from this batch. While opening some sample boxes we have found out that about 20% of the anchors might have these flaking issues on some spots on some corners of the steel, same as the ones found by steeve. Since we are galvanizing our anchors to have 100-120-micron coating thickness, there is still enough Zinc left in case of flaking, and since galvanizing already galvanized anchors is a complicated process we have decided to continue shipping from this batch of anchors to our customers, and in case, some spots of rust will develop in a year or so, we will replace the anchor or the relevant part with a new one at no cost. All of you, please take care and stay safe.
Excellent work on your testing videos. I know it takes a lot of effort to organize and replicate the same test for many anchors and rate them as objectively as possible. You are making all boaters safer with this knowledge and allowing manufacturers to improve now that they see some of their shortfalls in the real world. Thank you
Just received my viking 10 which arrived of my boat ... lol. However I definitely agree with you on the galvanizing, lots of room for improvement. Great video again Steve thanks again for all your hard work. 👍
Very interesting statement there around 13mins... 'Anchors with 12' chain and all rode always backflip...' Makes the statement of all chain rode a better way to go I would presume. I wonder if this is why Danforth style mfg prefer shorter chain setups, so it flips and the opposite fluke angle will reset it if there's no blockage. Very interesting... I've been running a Mantus M1 based off your testing for the last few years. Best anchor for my cruising ground but this Viking may be the way to go on the next vessel or if anyone upgrading for East Coast USA and Bahamas.
Any chance on testing the anchors that have a removable roll bar without the roll bar to see how they compare? Our boat can not accept anchors with roll bars therefore we have been using the spade for the last 8 years. Just thought it might be interesting. Great videos, keep up the great content!
At some point, I will test with rollbars removed, but I cannot stress enough that this will be for research only. People should not use anchors with rollbars removed unless the anchor was designed to be used as such.
I really enjoyed the test. Some have already commented here discussing the size difference between the 15 and the 20. We have a 44’ (26,000lb design displacement sailboat). The 15 is the recommended… it’s a actually lighter than the 35lb CQR that came on the boat. Is it really (the 15) likely up to the task or would the 20 be better?? Was previously considering an 85lb mantus! Thanks!
The Viking has really good anti-mud features, like e.g. holes in the fluke, and it still performed very well even when it did have the large chunk of sticky sandy mud attached to the fluke. I am confused why the rocna often fails when similarly affected with a large chunk of sandy mud on the fluke. Perhaps the smaller roll bar of the rocna affects chunks of mud flowing out the back of her, or the ears do not extend sufficiently out for aggressive setting angle? Thoughts?
Ross, I believe you are correct about the Viking's wide ears and large rollbar opening. Also, the Rocna's 'turned up' fluke palms and lower tip weight probably contribute to it's problems. Note that some or all of the mud that is visible on the fluke may have been collected during the upward withdrawal from the seabed on retrieval.
Although the anchor will likely land upright and function much of the time without the rollbar, I strongly recommend not removing the rollbar because in the event the anchor becomes inverted, it will almost certainly never set/reset.
Great testing as usual. 👍 What’s the outcome/opinion on the roll bar diameter/strength after your testing? You didn’t comment, so I’m assuming no problems in your testing.
Yves, There was no problem with the rollbar during these tests. However, the loads were far less than an anchor of this size is expected to encounter. Stay tuned for upcoming tests that will load the anchors up to and beyond their maximum potential.
Hi Steve, I am choosing an anchor for my Pearson 33 sailboat, 13000 lb, and after watching almost all of your videos, I want to get a Viking most likely, but I'm deciding between their Viking 15 and Viking 20. I want a anchor I can rely on in most any conditions. And Viking has a page about "bigger is not always better" basically saying that if your boat doesn't have the power to set the anchor fully, that's not good. I'm curious what your thoughts on this are? www.vikinganchors.com/data-center/knowledge-base/bigger-is-not-always-better
Hi Jove, My thought is that the benefits of a larger anchor out weigh the negatives. That said, I think a Viking 20 is overkill for your boat. The anchor is a MONSTER in dimensions and weight (over 50 pounds). According to the Viking website, the Viking 15 weighs 12.6 kg. or about 28 lbs. That is a big jump between the two sizes. Tough decision.
@@MrJlcurl Same question for my boat HR 352 (about 20000 lbs / 9 tons at full load). I take a 15 and was very big. If I take the 20 ... I was in trouble. Go for 15 and also .... the 10 ... maybe optimal. The Viking concept was not the weight (not only and in the toe) but the size !!! And, as my weigher says, the viking 15 was 14 KG and not 12,6 (about +1,4 kg than declared).
@@flygoodwin @Adriano Mari , I ordered the 15, it'll be here in a couple days. Thanks for the help folks. I figure this will be a good every day anchor size, and if I plan a big trip where I need a storm anchor then I'll get a larger one in future. I'm very interested in Steve's load testing this summer and I'll be watching closely. If it arrives in time I'll try the anchor out in Olympia this weekend. I'd be interested in loaning the anchor to you to test Steve if that's something you're interested in.
Who is Viking Anchors? How long have they been in business? It seems they learned from SV Panope videos and then just copied a Mantus (general shape minus the bolts, but stupidly they kept the roll-bar), and Anchor Right's Excel and SARCA anchors (holes in the flukes) and voila, there is your Viking anchor. Am I wrong? Man, I do not like copy-cats, it rubs me up the wrong way! And the below-par galvanisation shows that their engineering is on the cheap side.
Viking Anchors is based in the Ukraine. Not many oceans border the Ukraine. Spade is designed in France, made in Tunisia, fantastic sailing pedigree there, with the Mediterranean right on their doorstep. Anchor Right SARCA and Excel are made in Melbourne, Australia, you need to sail into the the Bass Strait and through the Roaring Forties to go anywhere from there. Mantus is on the Gulf of Mexico, just of Galveston. Any of those would make me feel good.
Quite! And remember the Rocna is also a conglomerate of copied designs. As is, the most of the rest. And the Viking's are developed and tested in the Med' at the Israeli coast…
They also seem to have a "can-opener" thing on the bottom of the shank, to assist in retrieval (pulling the lower shank the opposite direction.) They seem WIDER, too.....that takes up more room in the boat, however. In cobblestone the Viking held 840 pounds....it's a slightly heavier anchor he used, but that's over DOUBLE most other anchors!
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Depend on demand we manufacture our anchors in batches, for a specific 60 anchors batch made at the beginning of January, our regular galvanizing facility was shut down due to the Covid-19 pandemic, because of having many backorders that were starting to pile up we have decided to send the anchors to be galvanized in another facility, Steeve got his Viking 10 and 20 anchors from this batch.
While opening some sample boxes we have found out that about 20% of the anchors might have these flaking issues on some spots on some corners of the steel, same as the ones found by steeve.
Since we are galvanizing our anchors to have 100-120-micron coating thickness, there is still enough Zinc left in case of flaking, and since galvanizing already galvanized anchors is a complicated process we have decided to continue shipping from this batch of anchors to our customers, and in case, some spots of rust will develop in a year or so, we will replace the anchor or the relevant part with a new one at no cost.
All of you, please take care and stay safe.
Excellent work on your testing videos. I know it takes a lot of effort to organize and replicate the same test for many anchors and rate them as objectively as possible. You are making all boaters safer with this knowledge and allowing manufacturers to improve now that they see some of their shortfalls in the real world.
Thank you
Just received my viking 10 which arrived of my boat ... lol. However I definitely agree with you on the galvanizing, lots of room for improvement.
Great video again Steve thanks again for all your hard work. 👍
Thank you very much for your time and perfect tests. It helps so much for the choice of our anchors.
Just ordered one of the 20's hope to test it myself soon enough.
Thanks for the work you're doing.
Another great video, thank you
Great test....as always! Thank you
Very interesting statement there around 13mins... 'Anchors with 12' chain and all rode always backflip...' Makes the statement of all chain rode a better way to go I would presume. I wonder if this is why Danforth style mfg prefer shorter chain setups, so it flips and the opposite fluke angle will reset it if there's no blockage. Very interesting...
I've been running a Mantus M1 based off your testing for the last few years. Best anchor for my cruising ground but this Viking may be the way to go on the next vessel or if anyone upgrading for East Coast USA and Bahamas.
Thanks
Any chance on testing the anchors that have a removable roll bar without the roll bar to see how they compare? Our boat can not accept anchors with roll bars therefore we have been using the spade for the last 8 years. Just thought it might be interesting. Great videos, keep up the great content!
At some point, I will test with rollbars removed, but I cannot stress enough that this will be for research only. People should not use anchors with rollbars removed unless the anchor was designed to be used as such.
@@flygoodwin sounds good, indeed just for research purposes and curiosity.
I really enjoyed the test. Some have already commented here discussing the size difference between the 15 and the 20. We have a 44’ (26,000lb design displacement sailboat). The 15 is the recommended… it’s a actually lighter than the 35lb CQR that came on the boat. Is it really (the 15) likely up to the task or would the 20 be better?? Was previously considering an 85lb mantus! Thanks!
Which did you end up going with? Im in the same boat 😂 as you are. 44’ 29,000 lb
The Viking has really good anti-mud features, like e.g. holes in the fluke, and it still performed very well even when it did have the large chunk of sticky sandy mud attached to the fluke. I am confused why the rocna often fails when similarly affected with a large chunk of sandy mud on the fluke. Perhaps the smaller roll bar of the rocna affects chunks of mud flowing out the back of her, or the ears do not extend sufficiently out for aggressive setting angle? Thoughts?
Ross, I believe you are correct about the Viking's wide ears and large rollbar opening. Also, the Rocna's 'turned up' fluke palms and lower tip weight probably contribute to it's problems. Note that some or all of the mud that is visible on the fluke may have been collected during the upward withdrawal from the seabed on retrieval.
Do you think the anchor would work well with the roll bar removed? We board off our bowsprit and the hoop style roll bars are in the way.
Although the anchor will likely land upright and function much of the time without the rollbar, I strongly recommend not removing the rollbar because in the event the anchor becomes inverted, it will almost certainly never set/reset.
Aye, terrific test! The end shot of the cormorants - what is that structure for? Some kind of navigation mark?
MiQ, Good question - I'll have to ask around for the answer. The structure has been abandoned for decades. Might have had a military use.
Great testing as usual. 👍 What’s the outcome/opinion on the roll bar diameter/strength after your testing? You didn’t comment, so I’m assuming no problems in your testing.
Yves, There was no problem with the rollbar during these tests. However, the loads were far less than an anchor of this size is expected to encounter. Stay tuned for upcoming tests that will load the anchors up to and beyond their maximum potential.
Hi Steve, I am choosing an anchor for my Pearson 33 sailboat, 13000 lb, and after watching almost all of your videos, I want to get a Viking most likely, but I'm deciding between their Viking 15 and Viking 20. I want a anchor I can rely on in most any conditions.
And Viking has a page about "bigger is not always better" basically saying that if your boat doesn't have the power to set the anchor fully, that's not good. I'm curious what your thoughts on this are?
www.vikinganchors.com/data-center/knowledge-base/bigger-is-not-always-better
Hi Jove, My thought is that the benefits of a larger anchor out weigh the negatives. That said, I think a Viking 20 is overkill for your boat. The anchor is a MONSTER in dimensions and weight (over 50 pounds). According to the Viking website, the Viking 15 weighs 12.6 kg. or about 28 lbs. That is a big jump between the two sizes. Tough decision.
@@flygoodwin yes, that is a strangely big size jump. I noticed that too. Thanks!
@@MrJlcurl Same question for my boat HR 352 (about 20000 lbs / 9 tons at full load). I take a 15 and was very big. If I take the 20 ... I was in trouble. Go for 15 and also .... the 10 ... maybe optimal.
The Viking concept was not the weight (not only and in the toe) but the size !!!
And, as my weigher says, the viking 15 was 14 KG and not 12,6 (about +1,4 kg than declared).
@@flygoodwin @Adriano Mari , I ordered the 15, it'll be here in a couple days. Thanks for the help folks.
I figure this will be a good every day anchor size, and if I plan a big trip where I need a storm anchor then I'll get a larger one in future. I'm very interested in Steve's load testing this summer and I'll be watching closely.
If it arrives in time I'll try the anchor out in Olympia this weekend.
I'd be interested in loaning the anchor to you to test Steve if that's something you're interested in.
@@MrJlcurl I noticed that too! I was wanting a 35 pound, to compete with the M1, but I think it will still be fine.
Who is Viking Anchors? How long have they been in business? It seems they learned from SV Panope videos and then just copied a Mantus (general shape minus the bolts, but stupidly they kept the roll-bar), and Anchor Right's Excel and SARCA anchors (holes in the flukes) and voila, there is your Viking anchor. Am I wrong? Man, I do not like copy-cats, it rubs me up the wrong way! And the below-par galvanisation shows that their engineering is on the cheap side.
Viking Anchors is based in the Ukraine. Not many oceans border the Ukraine. Spade is designed in France, made in Tunisia, fantastic sailing pedigree there, with the Mediterranean right on their doorstep. Anchor Right SARCA and Excel are made in Melbourne, Australia, you need to sail into the the Bass Strait and through the Roaring Forties to go anywhere from there. Mantus is on the Gulf of Mexico, just of Galveston. Any of those would make me feel good.
Well Mantus is a tweaked copy of Rocna and similar anchors. Mantus is a much improved version of Rocna, in my view.
Quite! And remember the Rocna is also a conglomerate of copied designs.
As is, the most of the rest. And the Viking's are developed and tested in the Med' at the Israeli coast…
@@MiQBohlin Yep, I emailed them some questions and the reply email came with an Israeli phone number.
They also seem to have a "can-opener" thing on the bottom of the shank, to assist in retrieval (pulling the lower shank the opposite direction.) They seem WIDER, too.....that takes up more room in the boat, however.
In cobblestone the Viking held 840 pounds....it's a slightly heavier anchor he used, but that's over DOUBLE most other anchors!