It's very interesting in the novels, because you don't really see the Mayfair witches "casting spells" in a traditional sense. The Talamasca refers to them as a family of psychics. In fact, the Talamasca defines a "witch" as someone who can commune with the unseen spirits and command them. A few of the Mayfairs who had the power and constitution bound lesser spirits to do their bidding. However, you do not see them doing rituals and speaking incantations, something that is a hallmark in other witchcraft media and in real-world witchcraft practices. The powers that the Mayfairs exhibit are textbook psychic powers-- telepathy, clairvoyance, telekinesis/pyrokinesis and that's how they are referred to. The novels use the term "witch" to refer to whomever is controlling the spirit Lasher in a given generation or it is the social pejorative prescribed to them by the superstitious, gossiping public.
Being psychic/a psychic literally falls under the umbrella of witchcraft...being a 'witch' or doing witchcraft doesn't only involve 'spells' or 'incantations' there's a wide scope of ability within the practice
@@kat1879 Yes and no-- plenty of psychics do not want to associate with the word 'witch'. Check out Ronald Hutton's academic work "Triumph of the Moon" for an anthropological and historical discussion of the modern Pagan movement. And, again, in the context of fictional witchcraft-- Anne Rice made a clear distinction in her fictional world between psychic and witch and that's what matters most in this discussion. Blessed be~
The trilogy of books is so wonderful. I understand movies are limited to a certain time frame. But in the case of streaming programs, I wish they would faithfully represent the stories. Already - in the first episode - I was pausing every few minutes to tell my husband what they were leaving out. (I felt the same way about A Discovery of Witches.)
This show has NOTHING to do with the book. You can't take two of the most major characters of a book - an 80 year old man and the love interest that's integral to the ENTIRE story line - and mash them into a new character. They didn't even get the lead character's name right. In the show, she's Rowen Fielding (the only "Fielding" in the book is an elderly male cousin), in the book every Mayfair goes by the last name "Mayfair" and this is especially true of the designee. I, for one, am not wasting my money
Pretty sure they explained way early on when the first trailers were coming out that she doesn't know she's a Mayfair...why would she not know she's a Mayfair if her name was literally Mayfair...?
Keep in mind that the novels are set before the Internet age and social media. If Ellie (and by extension Rowan) kept the name Mayfair, Rowan could easily just google her extremely wealthy, influential last name and learn all about them. This would literally cause the fabric of the plot to fall apart because Ellie was supposed to keep Rowan in the complete dark about her family history.
Oh, they're butchering it alright. They wrote out Michael. They wrote out Aaron. They gave Cortland a major role when he's only a minor character in the books. They even changed the Mayfair Emerald into some stupid key. All of this is just in the trailers. Inspires NO confidence this show will even resemble one of the best stories she ever wrote.
@@kat1879 In the books she already knows she's adopted. She already knows she's a Mayfair, since her adopted mother went by that name. It's a main arch in the books that female Mayfairs, whether married or not, ALWAYS go by the last name of Mayfair. This is especially true of the designee.
Is this show going to have a bunch straight & gay male characters? Bc I don't even want to start watching the series if there aren't any Sapphic characters. Life is short. Anybody know?
In the books, Julian was bisexual, Mary Beth's husband was bisexual, Julian had sex with Lasher. She does tend to gravitate towards male sexual orientation. This stupid show hasn't followed the book at all - at least what's in the trailers, and that's enough to show it's pretty much using the name & that's it - so who knows?
I have most of Anne Rice's books and read them around once a year. I have several authors I love and reading all these books takes me all year and then some. I read around four or five books a month, depending on the length. I do not have or read her religious works. Totally not interested.
It's very interesting in the novels, because you don't really see the Mayfair witches "casting spells" in a traditional sense. The Talamasca refers to them as a family of psychics. In fact, the Talamasca defines a "witch" as someone who can commune with the unseen spirits and command them. A few of the Mayfairs who had the power and constitution bound lesser spirits to do their bidding. However, you do not see them doing rituals and speaking incantations, something that is a hallmark in other witchcraft media and in real-world witchcraft practices. The powers that the Mayfairs exhibit are textbook psychic powers-- telepathy, clairvoyance, telekinesis/pyrokinesis and that's how they are referred to. The novels use the term "witch" to refer to whomever is controlling the spirit Lasher in a given generation or it is the social pejorative prescribed to them by the superstitious, gossiping public.
Being psychic/a psychic literally falls under the umbrella of witchcraft...being a 'witch' or doing witchcraft doesn't only involve 'spells' or 'incantations' there's a wide scope of ability within the practice
@@kat1879 Yes and no-- plenty of psychics do not want to associate with the word 'witch'. Check out Ronald Hutton's academic work "Triumph of the Moon" for an anthropological and historical discussion of the modern Pagan movement. And, again, in the context of fictional witchcraft-- Anne Rice made a clear distinction in her fictional world between psychic and witch and that's what matters most in this discussion. Blessed be~
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The trilogy of books is so wonderful. I understand movies are limited to a certain time frame. But in the case of streaming programs, I wish they would faithfully represent the stories. Already - in the first episode - I was pausing every few minutes to tell my husband what they were leaving out. (I felt the same way about A Discovery of Witches.)
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Not happy that so much of the book has been changed.
Aaron and Michael have nothing to do with each other, lol. Why not merge Aaron and David instead? It would have made SOME sense.
Aaron and Michael as one character?? I don't know about this..
This show has NOTHING to do with the book. You can't take two of the most major characters of a book - an 80 year old man and the love interest that's integral to the ENTIRE story line - and mash them into a new character. They didn't even get the lead character's name right. In the show, she's Rowen Fielding (the only "Fielding" in the book is an elderly male cousin), in the book every Mayfair goes by the last name "Mayfair" and this is especially true of the designee. I, for one, am not wasting my money
The decision to Omit Michael Curry from the series as a huge fail
Completely Unforgivable.
Wait, why is Rowan “Dr. Fielding”. She’s a Mayfair. She’s always been a Mayfair. Oh my god please tell me they aren’t going to butcher this show.
Pretty sure they explained way early on when the first trailers were coming out that she doesn't know she's a Mayfair...why would she not know she's a Mayfair if her name was literally Mayfair...?
Keep in mind that the novels are set before the Internet age and social media. If Ellie (and by extension Rowan) kept the name Mayfair, Rowan could easily just google her extremely wealthy, influential last name and learn all about them. This would literally cause the fabric of the plot to fall apart because Ellie was supposed to keep Rowan in the complete dark about her family history.
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Oh, they're butchering it alright. They wrote out Michael. They wrote out Aaron. They gave Cortland a major role when he's only a minor character in the books. They even changed the Mayfair Emerald into some stupid key. All of this is just in the trailers. Inspires NO confidence this show will even resemble one of the best stories she ever wrote.
@@kat1879 In the books she already knows she's adopted. She already knows she's a Mayfair, since her adopted mother went by that name. It's a main arch in the books that female Mayfairs, whether married or not, ALWAYS go by the last name of Mayfair. This is especially true of the designee.
this is nothing like the books, and an absolute shame.
Is this show going to have a bunch straight & gay male characters? Bc I don't even want to start watching the series if there aren't any Sapphic characters. Life is short. Anybody know?
In the books, Julian was bisexual, Mary Beth's husband was bisexual, Julian had sex with Lasher. She does tend to gravitate towards male sexual orientation. This stupid show hasn't followed the book at all - at least what's in the trailers, and that's enough to show it's pretty much using the name & that's it - so who knows?
"...the room for artistic license..." is destroying the Witcher. I hope it doesn't happen here.
I have most of Anne Rice's books and read them around once a year. I have several authors I love and reading all these books takes me all year and then some. I read around four or five books a month, depending on the length. I do not have or read her religious works. Totally not interested.