DON'T buy gaming headphones, BUY IEMs instead! Review of IEMs for GAMING
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Timeline:
0:00 Intro
0:15 Sound
0:34 IEMs vs Gaming Headphones (sound)
0:55 Soundstage isn't THAT important
1:09 Comfort
1:28 Negatives
1:56 Conclusion
2:32 What I would buy with $50
2:45 What I use (not gaming related)
In this video, I'm sharing my experience with gaming with iems (in-ear monitors) and comparing them to gaming headphones. I demonstrate how iems are better than gaming headphones for a number of reasons, including comfort, sound quality, and isolation.
Don't buy gaming headphones if you're looking for a better gaming experience. Instead, invest in ear monitors like iems. They offer superior sound quality, noise canceling, and they're much more comfortable to wear. So why wouldn't you choose iems over gaming headphones? 
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Budget $16 IEM
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Budget $100 IEM
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IEM with a microphone, kills gaming headsets
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I love my Sony Izone but a negative with it being wireless is if battery dies. Can’t play and charge at same time. Where wireless headsets can. But I was surprised that sounds were easier to pin point better. Headsets I just get better bass feeling.
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Linsoul zero 2 are the best for price and Performance.
@@matthiasheide5226I love that much for gaming IEMs
@@matthiasheide5226 Linsoul zero 2 is best gaming IEMs under $100 ?
Just because it sticks in your ear, doesn’t make it an in ear monitor. Real IEM’s have a flat response so that they don’t color the sound of a musicians instrument or vocal. Most in ear “headphones” are going to have a big boost from around 60 to 100Hz to make up for low frequencies that tiny drivers are unable to reproduce. There is no way any kind of in ear headphone or monitor is going to outperform a good pair of over ear headphones. There is more frequency spectrum with over ears, bigger drivers and a better seal. You would be better off with over ear headphones and running some type of a pre-EQ filter to scoop out undesirable frequencies, roll off low end and boost higher frequencies where foot steps and things like that fall in the frequency spectrum.
@Bobby_Uterus this video is mainly aimed at the people who buy mainstream gaming headphones like from razer. Also we're talking mostly at the budget end of headphones, which imo, iems will always win because it's so easy to make them
I’m still gonna have to disagree with you. Cheap in ear headphones may sound better to you than over ear headphones because cheap IEM and even expensive IEM cut off a bunch of the low frequencies. It’s impossible for the little drivers to reproduce them. Those low end frequencies may be cluttering what you’re hearing in your game with over-ears but can easily be EQ out. The smaller in ear headphones cannot reproduce these frequencies at all. I think using an EQ would be more beneficial on a sealed pair of over-ears. I also don’t see how sticking something in your ears is more comfortable than an over ear. I guess it’s just preference.
@Bobby_Uterus I mean, I feel like, let's say, for $50, you can get a lot from iems, but I feel like there is no great option for headphones. Of course, at $200 and up, then that may be different, but at the very low end where most gamers want, iems are just a better value proposition.
@@Bobby_Uteruswhat are your best choice for gaming IEMs
@@epicardsdotcom1300 I’m not a gamer. I use Westone Audio AM Pro X30s for music performance. Look at the Shure SE112 or maybe the Shure SE215 if you want IEMs for whatever reason. I’d go with a company that actually makes other music production products. Not a company that no one has ever heard of.
IEMs are the best for gaming for me. Its much more lighter and I can hear footsteps more clearer than some of my friends that wear headphones (but maybe their hearing just suck haha). I can notice more nuances to sounds compared to when I wore headphones (both IEM and headphone were of the same price)
You have a favorite gaming IEMs or headsets
Totally agree. Specially gaming IEMs have great pricing and value
If you don't like IEMs for gaming and want actual headphones look for "studio" headphones, they don't really have "soundstage" but have a more neutral sound which is good for games where you need to hear where footsteps or where gunfire is coming from.
You need soundstage for distance.
not worth it, unless you have a problem with your ear canal.
Just get astro headset best headset iv evwr own3d for footsteps
7hz Salnotes Zero
Dt 990 pro 320 ohm + soundblaster g6
great video and right to the point! tysm
Once I got into using IEMs I could not go back to gaming headsets or just headphones in general. They're just so much more comfortable when you're used to them, they sound so much better, and I've been able to hear things in-game better than I did with headsets. IEMs have also been so much more stylish, which is also very nice. Also, memory foam tips are super comfortable and help improve sound isolation and bass, which I am in love with.
which IEM do you use most?
@@ohji_ Right now I've been using Moondrop Aria.
I'm thinking of trying out either the 7hz Sonus or the Moondrop May next. I also used the Crinacle Zero in blue for a while which is also great, but I like how much louder the Aria gets.
I would say the sound is the biggest thing about iems I use truthear zerobut it needs a Apple usbc to aux I Donno why but useing this makes the sound 20% louder dose anyone know way that is I hear it’s cuz it has a built in ec?
Honestly, HyperX Clouds are very well optimized for CS, i've been called a wallhacker because i've heard stuff others don't. But sound like sh&t in general just like most other headsets. IEM's, i don't get some of the sound q's in-game but sound quality is superior overall, much clearer and comfort levels are so much better than heavy headset that strains your neck in an hour and squeezes your head like a lemon giving you a headache.
how do you activate microphone the 3mm jack is only for audio right ......my pc is hv individually for mic jack and audio jack
Love ur videos man, keep it up
Tysm
I use a pair of HD800s for gaming but they're not suitable when playing VR so i had to pick some iems recently. I just bought my first pair of Hexa and i am very impressed for the price, even without a dac/amp they perform well. The soundstage is definitely cramped compared with what i'm used to but that's to be expected; impressive price-performance non-the-less and perhaps not the best choice of iem if used for vr gaming specifically. Moondrop Variations will be my next stop i think, unless anyone has any other recommendations solely for vr.
Oh10 has crappy imaging though, just shows how you dont need really good iems for gaming
Yea I got them cause I saw them at insane price. I don't use them anymore. Good player ≠ good gear ✅️
What are your best IEMs for gaming?
As someone who usually plays Devil Daggers on occasion I find myself preferring IEMs rather than my HD6XX due to the unique noises each entity plays.
Ayeee I didn’t know anyone else really plays that game
@@loYolVibesIt's hooked me in for the better part of a few years now, only recently getting a 900+ score just recently. Insanely fun.
@@Kazuki_Fuse sheeesh hell yea
what iems would you suggest?
I use IEM’s from my session musician days, the sound quality is tonnes better than any gaming headset. If you game daily, it’s best to use over ears some of the time otherwise your ear becomes a Petri dish and you’ll find your ears feeling gunky and clogged after a couple of weeks of constant use
A good rule of thumb if your head set sounds muted u need a amp dac stack or a dac with a built-in amp
Which a good affordable amp to use with IEM set up
this video seems like an april fools video i found in the shorts section, you have an insane amount of time to explain things yet you just say "iems better" over and over
audio is almost entirely personal preference and comparing, a blanket statement like iems having better imaging isnt great
also, dont buy gaming headphones, dont be afraid of looking up "audiophile" headphones, you can find some really great headphones at pretty low prices compared to what you might think
I specifically said gaming headphones on purpose. Such as Logitech and hyperx headphones. I said in my video that audiophile headphones have better soundstage.
Which IEM or headset you prefer for gaming?
@@Tommy-te2lg there are 6 pairs of headphones in my house and the 2 i like the most are my audio technica ad1000x and my hifiman sundara
the ad1000x has such crazy soundstage that its like audio x-ray, the imaging is also very good to pair, sometimes i have to take my headphones off to make sure a sound wasnt downstairs
the sundara's detail retrieval is impressive, no matter how hectic a fight is i can pick out every sound, the soundstage and imaging arent CRAZY but still pretty good
for iems, im currently using the moondrop starfield, imaging is decent but soundstage is pretty cramped, the tuning of them helps pick out things like footsteps and bushes
for games like valorant and cs2 i might prefer my iems because gamesense more than makes up for the soundstage and imaging
for more open and dynamic games like apex, tarkov, cod, battlefield, headphones all the way for me
as for which pair i choose, its up to how i want my audio to sound
side note, the sundara doesnt need to get as loud to hear everything, the detail you get at relatively low volume is very good
as for gaming headsets, the hyperx cloud alphas are pretty comparable to the starfield is every way but worse overall quality, meaning they arent as clear, the bass is kind of muddy, and the upper mids arent as smooth, the soundstage/imaging/detail retrieval is comparable
also the logitech pro x 2 seems pretty good, i have a friend that dipped into pro valorant and she says she couldnt be happier with that headset, she also plays tarkov
@@shadeshotTV how do you rate the value of gaming IEMs vs. headset?
I love my gamimg iems .
Go to system>sound and then turn off mono audio for headphone users, this gave me directional super hearing in games
When playing escape from tarkov with the truthear IEM's I got, I cannot tell a direction the footsteps are coming from which made me instantly stop using them. Is there a way I can make this better?
@sindriic3316 I mean, the only reason I could think of is your amp/dac that you connect them to, but that shouldn't make too much of a difference.
Did u buy the truthear zero or the zero red? If you bought the red people say it's worse for gaming. Less imaging and other fancy words. Of you bought something else then ya idk.
I use IEM for live performance stuff and the one issue is ear wax build up and it can literally clog the sound canals. Other than that they are great! (Just clean your ears before use if you want to avoid this as much as possible)
Do you use IEM for gaming
@@Markia-is9es not personally nope - I use a few diff sets depending on the game
@@skyewasthelimit your top gaming IEMs?
while talking "issue": u can always wear normal headphones over IEMs
You think gaming IEMs are better choice than gaming headsets?
You have Blon Bl03 that is 25 to 30 and has an amazing audio !
"dont buy headphones, buy IEM´s instead" - tells us to do our own research for what to buy. why the fck did i came here then
Why really?
@@Tommy-te2lg iem is way better tho
yeah this pisses me off why even make a video to point out for gamers if you dont even tell us what
@@Gravoliwhich IÉM you like most
@@Markia-is9es Can you please share some good affordable IEMs? Thank you so much.
I've never had issues with comfort with headphones, to a degree i feel they are non issues and just like IEM's you need to look at what fits you best , not all ears are the same and not all heads are the same size .
Totally agree. What are your best gaming IEMs and or gaming headsets
See that's my one problem with headphones. I wear glasses and my ears get crushed. Can only game a few hours until I can't go any further. Now I'm torn between item's. Which are the best.
@@DavidfromMichigan I my self wear glasses. I found soft ear cuffs work best so they don't press to hrd against the side of your head on the glasses . Some are a bit too stiff and end up being bothersome z but I like the ones I got .
@@DavidfromMichigan just curious what are your best IEMs for gaming
@@Markia-is9es I would say.. on a budget, either Truthear Nova or Asus Rog Speednova.
I've just done exactly this picked up some TruthHear Zero's theyre great for the price
Which IEM model you get And how much
"earbuds are better for comfort"
okay but that's suuuuuuper preferential. I'd rather have earmuffs surrounding my ears than an earbud poking into my ear literally any day. if your headphones are hurting your ears, the shape and size of the earmuffs is probablt wrong and you should get a different headset
i feel the same way, i just CANT belive that overears are less comfy then in ears, just doesnt make any sense, i use both i would allways take over ears all day over in ears.
@@sleeplessguardian What are your current IEM model used?
Are you bald? Because that’s my biggest concern with over ear. It messes my hair up so bad.
@@chefcorey8142 I'm not but I understand that problem
@@chefcorey8142 Really so what are your choice for gaming, IEM or headset
I've spent too much money on IEMs and alas, I just can't get along with them. Very uncomfortable and fiddly to get a proper fit. But that's me.
I love how accesible they were even bang for your buck for 20-30$
Considering how much u talk about comfort in this video u should research the Koss KSC75's. They are exceptional on-ears. Put them on a comfortable headband & u can wear em all day without even noticing that u are. Its like high quality sound just materializes in ur ears.
Edit: I should have realized someone mentioned that already. they have a cult like following for a reason :D
I think you maybe misunderstand something.
IEMs have such 'clarity' mainly because of typcially much higher sensitivity and lower impedance than headphones. Most IEMs are literally 10ohms or less of impedance with sensitivities in excess of 110db. This means they don't need any sort of amping for hitting full soundstage and clarity, while most headphones bottom out at 32ohms impedance and are most frequently in the 90-100 range on sensitivity.
This is why many 'gaming headphones' come with a usb dac+amp of some kind. It's also why many IEMs run into noise floors and hiss that requires a DAC or sometimes even an impedance adaptor of some kind to silence it.
With over ear headphones, you need more power to fuel them. Without that power, you get more limited soundstage and clarity. They are also more effected by the cup shape,material, and the literal shape of your ears than IEMs are. For IEMs, so long as the seal is good, the tip pad is basically irrelevant aside comfort. Not so much on over ears. On ears are a different ball of wax entirely.
There's also the issue of a lot of the common 'gaming headsets' being closed back, which tends to result in narrower soundstage and flawed imaging. You have to look at brands typically more 'non-gamer' to see open-back 'gamer headsets'. There's also issues with gamer-marketed headsets having tuning designed to emphasize certain ranges in frequency, that actually tend to just muddy things horribly, and many of the 'comes with the device' USB DAC/AMP things are actually hot garbo that do additional processing instead of just sending the signal. This gets worse as your budget drops, ftr. You'll find a LOT of benefit with even low tier 'gaming headphones' by adding a DAC into the mix.
If you want good imaging, soundstage, and clarity out of headphones, you need to be looking at 'reference monitors' or 'studio headphones'. Even DT770 tends to be a massive step up in imaging over the typical 'gamer headset', and it's considered the 'king of entry level' for that, and that's with it being hampered by being closed back.
Closed back means more bass clarity and bass in general. Open backs lack that
@@kapikopi It does not mean more 'bass clarity'. It means it's easier to get stronger bass. But it is not inherent that open backs have bad or muddy bass.
for me those kind of earphones dont work as my ears cant hold them inside without slipping out so the only option is the headset kind
I have the Sennheiser PC38X as well as the Thieaudio Monarch MK3s. The MK3S are definitely better for gaming and just everything i mean they are like $800 higher lol. The Sennheisers are still good for music as well as gaming, thet are also very comfortable and since there openbacks they don't get nearly as hot as other headphones I've tried, highly recommend.
Very reliable and sturdy. I like the wire quality more than the usual earphones.
Totally. Newer IEM is best not just good quality and affordable pricing
What about affordability of IEMs?
It doesnt matter which do you use, depends on which and what genre of games do you use if your games need pin point location then you need soundstage and bit more of high frequency for little bit clearer footstep for example, but you still have to use a DAC so the soundstage get more wider
yh, tarkov on the nectar hiveX can feel like cheating
If your on pc high quality headphones because you can down load plug ins and you can use actual audio equipment that can properly drive them....like amps and dacs....there is a lot to unpack when it comes to understanding audio....if it says mixing headset don't purchase it
Do you have your good iem choice for gaming
You should check out the Koss Ksc75x's. I bought mine for 15$, applied 2 simple mods(headband + yaxi) and its beat out my x2hr, HD 559 and moon chus by a landslide in terms of comfort. Its essentially like having clouds on your ears that have incredible soundstage/imaging and solid tuning for the price. Excellent for gaming and very solid for everything else (especially with a bit of EQing).
I've always heard goods things about them. Just kinda hesitant because of looks ngl
@@DrogoDGN I can't blame you with its unappealing "90's airplane headphones" look, lol.
However, when it comes to comfort + price/performance, it's pretty much unbeatable, especially with the aforementioned (simple) mods. I was hesitant at first too, but when Crinacle gave it praises... I had to give it a try.
Atleast think about it, haha. Great video, overall :).
I used the KSC75X mod on my Oculus Rift S back in the day!
@@givemethesantahatfoo nah for me anythung that's over the ear (like those) will never be as comfortable as IEMs. But good you were able to find it most comfortable tho
@@Mr-R.R. I was the same way too. I promise you it's different with the yaxi earpads. They are imported from Japan, and idk what they do to them, but it feels like actual clouds on my ears. That + the headband mod, which distributes what little pressure there is, all around your head... When I first started wearing them I'd walk away from my computer with them accidentally on sometimes... Insanely comfortable.
My hurting ear canals are saying NO to IEM's. 🙂
I am an audiophile. Bang for the buck, IEMs beat headphones at most pricepoints under $200. I would argue that extends to $750 to $1000, as in a $500 IEM will give more than a $500 headphone, usually. But there are really good IEMs for under $100, JoJos are li,e $20.. OH10s, are known for their bass as they pack a punch. While IEMs may not pack the widest stage, they are very good and imaging so you know the exact direction of footsteps. I wear headphones for a mic and comms, but when my head hurts i switch to IEMs.
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been using my bkg usb-c earbuds that came with my samsung phone years ago in the thunderbolt 4 port of my gaming laptop forever. mic works great & the little volume buttons even work. i could use bluetooth too but for gaming there could be slight lag. prefer wired when possible anyways.
What are your most expensive IEMs
I wish I could use IEMs, but I have a nickel allergy and it tends to cause flare-ups
There are some iems that have plastic bodies and brass nozzles
I want one of these, thanks for the review, nice video
Ty
You can hear yourself MORE while using IEMs/closed back headphones? What in the world are you talking about?
That's what I said in the video
thanks for the help much appreactiated
Things marketed as "gaming" are typically mediocre to bad products that usually just have rgb slapped on to it. I've wasted more money than I'd like to admit on crappy headsets that would fall apart after a year or two and it wasn't until about ten to fifteen years of this that I finally just got a proper set of headphones that not only sounded better but were also comfortable for multiple hours and if I need voice chat, then that's as easy as getting a separate microphone.
I love my OH10s for music listening but they were sadly lacking in the gaming I felt.
Def not the best value for gaming
As someone who has owned all these IEMs, if you plan on playing competitive games, stay FAR, FAR away from the Moondrop Aria. You will hear footsteps in Overwatch, Valorant or Siege, and they will sound very, very off. They will not be accurate at all and will only confuse you because of the subpad imaging and soundstage depth and space accuracy. Save yourself the trouble and only use the 7hz Salnotes zero and the Truthear x Crinacle Zero. My personal recommendation though is the Moondrop Chu 2 because the build is better quality than the 7hz Salnotes Zero and will do just as well in games.
do you need an amp for these iems? im planning to buy the 7hz for valorant
Zero red is objectively better
@@dawnonyt1 get the zero:red. It’s an updated version with much higher clarity and less distortion with a more natural sounding tuning with a sub bass boost for footsteps. The zeros, zero reds, and 7hz zero all have dynamic drivers which means they are very easy to drive, my phone can run it without problems. Btw i would personally spend the extra bucks on the zero red instead of the 7hz zero or zero 2, they sound good for the price but are lacking in bass and don’t come close to the zero reds. The zero reds perform on par with 150-200$iems from just a year ago
Any words on the kiwi ears orchestra lites?
@@kapikopiwould you still recommend the zero reds?
Great video! What keyboard is it you got? Looks cool as hell
Oblirated75
@@DrogoDGN thank you!
a review for Ikko oh10 would be nice
I love this I hope can get one soon
Yes they are very affordable gaming IEMs For a new gaming IEMs under $100
Do you enable any sound booster or eq? Or just plugin and straight into games. Just bought HyperX Cloud3 and I felt too chonky on my head for long gaming.
Straight into games
My $15 iems have more sound quality than my AirPods Pro’s and my Logitech Pro X headset
I hope my comment doesn't get lost in here. This might be a stupid question but the IEM's you recommended, they of course come with a mic right?
No, iems and headphone usually do not include microphones
i bout the cca cra but the bass is so loud it makes my ears blead with gun shots in all the games. Ive tired EQ but nothing worked.
what iem would you recommend right now for gaming ? my budget is 150 to 200 dollars. i've been looking into thrutear nova and pula 02 but idk what to choose and whats better for music AND gaming. do you have anything in mind ?
I don't have a lot of experience in that range, but my favorite is the raptgo hook x. I haven't used those iems sorry
1:15 hard disaggre on the compfort par.
why ears will start to hurt when i wear inears more than 1 hour
Are all of them like that? You might've just gotten unlucky with some that just don't fit personally well
dude money is not an issue for me i am more interested in comfort i dont mind spending 500 or a thousand if it means my ears dont hurt i wanna be able to hear my self talk while having excellent audio quality
i'm just gonna say this, a iem that cost 150 is the equivalent of a 550 to 800 dollars over ear headphones in sound quality, and i'm not talking about gaming headphones, i'm talking about brands like hifiman, sennheiser, bayerdynamic etc... now let that sink in.
Ive never heard an IEM that gives me the same sound a $550+ Hifiman has at any price, yet alone one at $150. Planar sound on headphones is its own thing, and even planar IEMs have a long way to go to get that good
But yeah a $150 IEM gets you more bang for your buck than $150 in the headphone world. What you said about Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic Ill agree with. But the Focals, Meze 109 Pro, and most modern Audezes aren't getting outmatched by IEMs from Truthears, 7Hz, and Kiwi Ears. Also IEMs arent nearly as durable as headphones (which may not matter to some, but its the truth)
If someone only had $150 or less though and weren't going to upgrade their budget anytime soon, yeah IEMs are the way to go
@@PantsaBear What would you recommend the best value IEMs?
IEMs seem really nice but I have over producing earwax. To give you an example, if I don't clean out my ears via water every 1.5weeks then I will literally wake up with the sound missing from one or both of my ears. It's sad though because I've tried some REALLY good IEMs that were cheap. Unfortunate.
There are some amazing headphones atleast. Just a little bit more cash
In Ear vs over ear is not as healthy for your ears.
If I wear in ear headphones my ears will o into overproduction of earwax. When headphones don't cause that issue.
I've been wearing them for year and haven't had problems.
Have you used any open back iems? Was wondering if that would help with the weirdness while talking since it removes a lot of the isolation
Not sure. It probably would, I've heard good things about the raptgo hook x which I think are open back iems.
Ya I was looking at those and they’re a little steeper priced than what I was hoping for…I think I should just make the jump on some less expensive ones and see if the isolation even bothers me. I’ve been using Arctis 7s with leather pads for years now and have never used Steelseries’s side tone or anything to monitor the mic so I honestly might already be used to similar isolation
Fact is Headphones cause hair thinness. Look at poor Pestily. Lvndmark is smart and wears earbuds. My hair has definitely gone thinner from headphones and i have noticed when i have a long break it grows back. Obvioisly this doesnt happen to everyone so stfu
the logitech g435 is also very light and comptorable even for big ears like i have
Any other great gaming IEMs that you like
get IEM if u have separate mic. IEM mic just so terribad it will catch your game sound while talking with team mate. Get headset instead for better comm experience
I am surprised to see the OH10 being used for gaming. Don't get me wrong, my OH10 are my babies, and are absolutely amazing for the kind of music I listen to, but they are not good for gaming. Their imaging is mediocre and their sound stage is moderately close. For competitive games, you want imaging and soundstage as the main strengths, which means either a neutral or bright sound signature most likely. You can also go for something with a slight V shape signature. The OH10 is a heavy V, close to U shape signature, amazing for electronic music and will give you a nice brain massage, but gives you fuzzy directional audio for pinpointing the location of things.
At the time, the oh10 weren't my main gaming iems, I just used them for this video cause they looked nice on camera.
If you are spending +150€ at headphones just make a mold of your ear canal and use it with your in ear. Thats the best confort you can have. it doesnt hurt and usually volume is much less cause they isolate from noise.
Also isolation plays a HUGE role in bass with headphones. My shure SE215 have stupid bass with instruments. They dont have it with music or gaming, maybe Id have to tweak EQ to get it. My thought is that its response isnt made for postproduced music or gaming
What is your recommendation for best gaming IEMs
@@Tommy-te2lg No clue dude, Ive only had some crappy ones and my shure 215 (around 100€)
The guy that posted the video has some cheap and more expensive recomendations. My only recomendation is to use the foam adaptors and not rubber.
If it is dense foam even better. Mine gained a huge boost in bass with that isolation
@@112358miauthat’s great suggestions to boost your gaming IEMs bass bro. Thank you so much
But soundstage is what make gaming more impressive
But for footstep or other audio cue maybe IEM is better for less noise
Well, soundstage is important. I was trying to imply that the difference between them shouldn't be that big where it completely is night and day. Also I think that gaming headphones from like brands like razer and Corsair heavily lack soundstage anyways.
The cable too short if I using iem, it really not comfortable man
Can get the extension for the cable for your best IEM
Try wireless IEMs
I have the Moondrop Chu II's but the problem I have especially in FPS's is that the sound sounds like its coming from all directions. I'll hear shooting across the map like its right next to me and just no directional sounding.
Do u have soundcard?
Any other great gaming IEMs that you like
i use the Fiio JH3 , they are good for gaming or i should look for a DEDICATED gaming iem?
Most people don't use dedicated gaming iems so you shouldn't either. Also I don't think there are really "gaming" specific iems. Theres just iems that are also really good for gaming.
do people use dacs, amps with their iems or just directly into motherboard?
Most people use dacs, some use both, and some people use neither. I would say you don't have to, but if you wanted an upgrade than a dac will make the most difference
would 30-40 usd iems perform good compared to headphones in the same price range? I don't listen to music unless a game, movie or video has it
Yes, the budget iem market is exploding, and competition is crazy down there. 30 40 dollar headphones have really just been super cheap and bad. I would say 30 40 iems could prob beat most headphones even at the 100 market. I have 200 dollar iems, and they've been barely any better than iems at 50 or below. 7hz zero, moondrop chu 2, and truther hola are really good cheap options.
Aye iem gang, a decen esr tips also means a lot for people unsatisfied or aint leanin to their purchase.
I had a KZ ZST Pro (there are better options now after 5 years) i play tarkov, its great.
I'm looking into getting iems and also play tarkov. How's the directional sound from iems, thats the only reason I'm skeptical to buy em
@@ChristianErwin01 (im now usign a TANGZU WANER) its great for my experience, audio positioning and the soundstage is clear + the sound cues/footprint since i knew the maps well. i started using IEM since headphone is a bad idea on hot environment (SEA), light, great sound seal off environment noise, and a great Tarkov streamer Hyperrat uses one.
@@ChristianErwin01Hi. I know I’m a little late to comment. I’m an avid Tarkov gamer myself and I swear by using IEMs ever since I made the switch. I went back to using my old gaming headset recently and I was having a hard time pinpointing where I was getting shot at as compared to using my IEMs. I remember when I initially made the switch and how surpried I was by how precisely I was able to tell where sounds where coming from. I play with binaural audio enabled if it matters any. I own a few cheap brands in the $20 range and they all sound amazing! If you find out that IEMs are for you, then it’s just a matter of finding a model with a sound profile you like. I personally prefer warm and bassy IEMs such as the KZ Castor or the QKZ x HBB. If you haven’t already, get yourself a cheap pair and decide for yourself whether you prefer them over whatever headphones you are currently using. I can personally never go back to using gaming headsets and AirPods as they don’t sound nearly as good. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask :)
@@ChristianErwin01 Did you end up get the IEM ?
I'm aponi Dakota Dehalle from Pennsylvania how can I get this product please
beyerdynamics headphones beat IEMs any day of the week. I mean most streams use beyerdymanics for a reason. headphones all the way
I bought a pair for gaming (FPS), plugged them in listened to them for about 45 seconds (even tried a DAC). Unplugged them and they have been in the drawer ever since. Do not buy these to play video games, especially for play FPS. The sound is like you have 1000 clock radio speakers taped to your ear. It's comfy but sounds horrible, IMO.
Been using the Truthear Hexa with spinfit W1 eartips that do definitely increase the soundstage. Been real good on valorant and haven't touched my headphones since
Def gotta try that combo
got my hexa 2 days ago, it's great.
Hey brathar have you tried the SIMGOT EM6L ?? I was told it's really good for FPS games like Valorant?
Studio headphones are infinitely better than gaming ones had some cuz I used a interface for music and gamed I would for sure go back when I have the chance
Any other great gaming IEMs that you like
0:31 what kinda IEMs is that?
It's not the IEM fault on apex...sound just generally doesn't exist
Any other great gaming IEMs that you like
Ive used these for 2 years. used to use artic pros sold them instantly these are so much better
my ikkos shock my ears
@@CamrunThomas what are your best choice IEMs
@@Markia-is9es most of them use the same drivers. iems from $30-$100 are usually the same thing and are very nice and better than any headphones. the Ikko Obsidians are the best in those bunch, if you want to go futher than that, ones with planar magnets, like the 7HZ timeless, they are the same price and comparable to the ikko obsidians
First time trying was awesome, and I wished I could invest more on this form factor. It's just not for me, comfort wise. Having things inside my ear is simply uncomfortable... and disgusting, even when I frequent bulb syringe and Q-tips combo. Quite jealous myself of people having these high quality audio, and most of the time cheaper than the headphone I invested in.
Man, it feels good knowing that I have something going for me in this regard, and perhaps it is the years and years of in-ear headphone use that made me used to it, but they fit nice, sound great, usually cheaper, lighter, easier to pack, and I have hardly any gunky build-up and have excellent hearing for a 40 year old.
On the other hand, I have other issues where a lot of over-ear or on-ear headphones are extremely uncomfortable and a bit painful.
@@TinariKaoso glad to hear you great IEMs experience. I feel the same when it comes to gaming audio
Using a DT880 Pro for years now. Always thought about IEMs because the comfort.
Here my question - is this in ear on par comparing it to my Beyerdynamic
Never really used a beyerdynamic, sorry about that
I can answer that. I used the DT 990's for years. Then got the DT 770's. Then got the MMX300's with the cow hide leather pads. Then got the TYGR300 with the fenestrated leather pads (Which is an absolutely GLORIOUS headphone btw) AND THEN i got the Truthear Crin Zero's and never went back. I have recently got the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite's and my god man - this is it. I have found Truly end game audio for my gaming needs. All powered through my GSX1000 DAC + Ifi Zen Can Amp.
@@thaNZdonbetter for positioning?
@@thaNZdon which one headphone the best for cod ? for them footsteps?
I tried many different Beyerdynamic headphones and I liked the TYGR the best, even better than the DT 1990. I recently got a Sennheiser HD 490 Pro and a Simgot EM6L. I like the IEM for the price, but the HD 490 Pro is much better for music and gaming, like it's not even close imo. Maybe I have to try some more expensive IEMs like the Xenns Top.
For me i cant use iem, they fall out of my ear, or hurt my ears after 5 minutes.
I would use a better IEM
If you have a dac and put in your iems and mic, you should be able to mix your voice into your iems or nah? 😅
Depends on the dac
How do you not talk about the fact that they don’t have a Mic?
Would be cool if you offered up a solution
Because headphones don't either. There are some iems like the Kimura that have mics
I'm using Truhear x Crinacle Zero for fps gaming but I noticed, I can't pin point where the footsteps are coming from. Do I need an amplifier to fix this?
For me it was decent, an amp won't fix that issue.
@@DrogoDGN Thanks, bro!
One thing I will say is I use a Apple aux to usbc and if I don’t use it the sound is 20$ lower for foot steps and gunshots for zeros still use them everyday but this makes a huge difference
what over-ear headphones have you used in gaming?
have you used any open-back headphones? - if yes, which one?
I'm asking bcs it sounds like your very biased... there is literally no way an iem can beat a headphone
I have used openback headphones, but when I say it beats headphones, I'm talking about gaming brand ones like logitech Corsair etc. I said that openback headphones can be better, but iems give a similar experience with gaming while being cheaper
i bought these on amazon and it had white noise. just plugged into my pc without any audio playing you can hear white noise and i couldnt stand it. i got a replacement from amazon and it had the same issue. ive heard these iems are some of the best but getting two defective ones ruined it for me.
White noise could be caused by your amp. Pc amps are not always the best. Also all iems react differently to different amps, it mightve been a bad iem, a bad iem, or a mix of both. Or also the iem requires a better amp.
@@DrogoDGN i see, are there any budget amps i can buy for my pc to plug them into? i dont know how it works, if its that simple
@rubendiaz3452 Sorry, I'm not too well informed on amps, but I'm using the Drop sdac + amp. There are also the topping dx1 amp dac and moondrop amps.
whats the name of the song in the backround at 1minute15seconds?
Awww yeee, IEM gaming supremacy boiiiiiiii
What I hate are the stupid cables that wrap around your ear and no matter how much you put them on you're always fumbling with, which is the left and right one and then how do you orient them.
I never have this problem at all, are you using mmcx or 2 pin?
@@DrogoDGN I have a FiiO and they spin around and its like an annoying little puzzle everytime I try to put them on. I just wish the damn cables would hang straight down instead of this ear wrap around thing.
@@KevinGeneFeldman A lot of iems now are 2 pin, which means the cable is locked in and does not move or spin around. Also if a cable was straight, it wouldn't fit/hold on as well onto the ear and would just fall down straight. Which some IEMs have good weight to them.
Hey man. I currently have the truthear zeros and i love them they're comfortable but I have 1 issue with them. The sound isn't as loud as I would like for them to be. Do you have any tips for increasing the volume of them to hear footsteps etc better.
An amp, even something really cheap will power your iem much better than your pc. Those get your iems much louder than your pc
@@DrogoDGN Any recommendations for a cheap one?
@xCaoy I don't have a specific recommendation, but if you go on Amazon, you can find some cheap ones with pretty decent reviews. Pretty much any amp will be better than the ones in your pc
@@DrogoDGN Alright thanks, Also do you think buying the Aria snow edition would be a good upgrade in terms of gaming. Or should i just stick to the zeros?
@@xCaoy imo I think the zeros are better
Any reccomendations for budget (under 50) IEM with microphone included?
Thanks in advance c:
Sorry I haven't tried many with microphone
you need a top 5 iem recommendation for this coming year end imo
SIMGOT EM6L top notch
What are your top 5 IEM bro
zero red's i would argue are better than just the zero's. extra attachment for more bass which would be better for gaming if you wanna hear deeper footsteps (footsteps more clearer) also good great soundstage, same as zero's
Zero reds have more neutral tuning with a sub boost rather than the v shaped tuning of the zeros.
Much better for music and has extremely low amounts of distortion. It’s better for gaming too imo
What’s are your choice for gaming IEMs
@@epicardsdotcom1300 depends on the price point. currently use Zero: red's but I'm waiting for my blessing 3's to arrive. hola's can be good. but you can also just get away with zero's
@@ephemerisone74 Thank you so much for your awesome IEMs rec for gaming headset. Will give the Zero IEMs a try.
Sadly because of my earshape the Oh10’s are so u comfortable after 3 hours of use due to irritation and just my ears being a little small
Understandable, we're all different
Upvote if you have the Moondrop Blessing 3 and loving it for gaming and music
Too poor… but the zero:reds do the job
IEMs also cause ear infections 😂
Worth
You forgot to mention the outside noise sound deadening when using IEM's. Which is major, not having to listen to other sounds.
You're right
Do they have mics? I am thinking of getting some for my son when he plays on console.
Most of them do not, the Kimura Duo, which I have a review of, does have a microphone
I personally need to hear my self when talking bcs otherwise i start screaming unintentionally. So idk
What are your best IEMs?
Try good gaming IEMs with microphone
I have the dioko, i3 pro, s12 pro and others. But my favorite to play games is the kz as10.
Do you recommend Dioko? Can you share your thoughts about it?
@@Rorensuwl8 hi. Do you mean to play games?
do u recommend the dioko ? for music and a little bit of gaming
@@omzxa8415 Yes, but it depends on your musical preference. It is not an IEM basshead. I like it for songs with more vocals.
the goat is back
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Have new IEM free?
How do I make the general sound louder?
Use an external amp