Jay Cutler's Training Tips: Dumbbell Shoulder Press Technique
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4 time Mr. Olympia Jay Cutler explains the proper way to perform the Dumbbell Shoulder Press!
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The advice about not locking out the arms is the most helpful part of this video. Keeps the tension on the shoulder and allows you to do better, cleaner reps that feel so much better.
Sometimes more is less! People confuse range of motion with constant tension on the target muscle. Keep in mind shoulders are extremely small muscles which do not need full range of motion to fill up with blood
been doing it this way now for the last three months. absolute killer advice! really hits the shoulder for TUT
I've been the type that does the clicking of the dumbbells at the top. I trained shoulders yesterday and I actually do feel some soreness in my left tricep. Wont make that mistake ever again. I even asked myself "why do I always click them at the top if Military/barbell Shoulder press there is no clicking involved & your hands are at the same spot the whole time?"
I've been going to the gym for years, thank you for this video
You should be pushing straight up, not towards the center of your head. If you push towards your head, you’ll be putting more emphasis on triceps. Makes sense that they were sore.
Did 8 hours of shoulder presses to confuse the body. now i cant fit thru any door. Whatever it takes
Keep yo ring
+Silent Psykosis yup!
Silent Psykosis fair enough
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If only it worked that way :(
He's huge! Can't wait to see him compete again. I still remember those crazy quads when he came in shredded 2003!!
his tips are simple, sicientific, and powerful!
And that's the right way. Because Jay Cutler said so bitches.
finally a actually good instructional video that doesn't promote going down to only 90 degrees
That guy has a very impressive physique. He should consider competing in Mr. Olympia
Are you joking? He's already a 4 time Mr.Olympia
@@4dityavaid he was joking I think
Lol he is joking..
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also guys if you have any shoulder problem its better to bring them a litlle bit forward
Thank you Pepe
Sometimes this brings more pain
Also click the angle of the Bench back an extra one. Its not cheating but rather more of a natural movement and will also contract some upper chest as well
I actually feel more pain when I do that. For me it’s the best to bring the shoulders all tze way back
@@TheChinchilla15 that isnt an overhead press its an incorrect incline press and will bang your shoulders up. Incline should be done at 45 degrees max
Great advice. About the only thing I miss by training at home is that long dumbbell rack. Dumbbells are very underrated.
@Boofing Pressies LOL ! Lots of Lonely Widows and Cougars. And I'm a healthy man and I do like those tasty peas.
nice delt exercise, I am going to include this in my shoulder routine thanks jay
As best I can tell you, this is good sound advice from one of the best ever Thank You Jay
Thanks Jay, muscle and fitness is the best
Jay thanks for addressing the clicking together, does my head in at the gym
Thank you! Simple and easy to understand! :)
He's right here. Past a certain point during this press, the humerus does not raise any further so any additional movement would just be done by the triceps. That would be a waste of energy if you are focusing on shoulders. Same applies to all pressing movements, I see too many people just trying to lift weight rather than take the muscle group thru its full range of motion and only its full range of motion.
That’s so interesting. This is completely different from how I’ve been doing shoulder press
Jay has incredible range of motion with his shoulders some folks may not be able to touch the dumbbells to their shoulders or will need to keep their elbows slightly in front
Very nice vid Jay, please more of these please
Thanks Dude....I've been doing them totally wrong!
3 important tips for free that is not mentioned in this video:
1- Use your hips to get the dumbbells to the starting point if you struggle.
2- Lower that bench for 10-15 degrees to decrease the arc in your back and take the pressure off.
3- Lay your head to the back and don't move it while you are lifting and beware that the dumbbells are not too ahead of your head. (It caused me pull a muscle on my neck since the neck takes the pressure if the dumbbells are too ahead).
Maybe that happens exactly because you're laying your head to the back and lowering the bench?
I am really confused i see this that says to set the arms almost out to the side of the shoulder. Then i see other videos that say your arms kneed to be about at a 30 degree bend
Lots of different advice on this. Some say lock out at top and dont come down too far. I only take advise from the people that look good. Jay's advise is obviously spot on 💪💪
I think the advise is depends on the objective and the sport. Some are focus on contraction and time under tension, some focus more on shoulder health, some just want to lift heavy, so basically take all advise and see which is suit you the most
This is an epic tip. best ever.
have to watch ur videos before going to gym ... good work jay respect
You are demonstrating two mistakes here: 1) your arms are straight out from your sides. This is outside the scapular plain and puts increased stress on the rotator cuff tendons, greatly increasing the chance for a tendon injury. The arms should be 20 to 30 degrees forward, which still fully engages the lateral deltoids. 2) you are leaning back when doing the press. This partially engages the upper pecs in the lift. The seated shoulder press is designed to isolate the lateral deltoids, so the back of the bench should be perpendicular to the floor, placing all of the stress on the deltoid to maximize the effect.
Fairly new to lifting weights and I'm glad I caught this video. I've done it in the past and apparently I've been doing it wrong.
thanks Jay
I always lock out at the top because my dumbbell shoulder press is an accessory for my barbell strict press.
Just one of many things I have learned form Jay over the years. That and basmati rice and orange roughy are awesome
I like to do mine with steamed asparagus too. And of course eziekiel bread and steel cut oats for my carbs but I have to say I don't like in and out Burger at all.
Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but look at his right bicep. It looks different from his left. Old injury? (I don't know much about Cutler).
Leo Corona i know he tore his bicep or some shit back in the day and had surgery so thats probably the reason
Keep motivating and inspiring. You are great.
I always like the confuse the body jokes 😂
lol
To
Right, babe?
Thanks Mr Cuttler!!💪
no problem buddy
This is one of the few smart profis
I had this personal trainer trying to tell me to lock out.. I tried telling him that I was keeping tension on the muscle, but he said otherwise. Trying to tell me to lighten the weight even tho the form was spot on.
This guy's pretty big he should consider doing a bodybuilding show
jay cutler is the best
Should the elbows be tucked in a bit more?
Thanks for the tip Champ😊👍
Good job jay
Did he say that's the white way to do a shoulder press?
I'm dying
I can't unheard this haha
Should I lower the weight if I feel my muscle is straining
It depends what you mean by straining. If it's just a normal burn from lifting the weight than that should be fine. If it is some sort of pain or discomfort like a pinching feeling in your shoulder, you should stop and do a set of face pulls to active your rotator cuff.
He says contraction of the shoulders but I think he means stretch as the contraction happens at the top
God bless this man.
So should I go almost all the way down to keep constant tension?
Learning alot from these videos
Same. and who better to show you how it's done
Thankyou
jay is the best
Fantastic video series! Keep them coming. Thanks Jay!
Have you done them against the wall
He has a good physique and all, but has he considered improving his quads? Maybe 4x8 stomps?
I was doing them wrong..... Thanks Jay!
Thanks that's helps allot!!!!
He's good, maybe one day he'll become Mr Olympia
Do I squeeze my shoulder blades together doing this?
Depends on what you're trying to get, if you want to strengthen your shoulder muscles you want to lockout. There is no "right way" this is advice for bodybuilders who want to get as much tension as they can.
I heard it's better to use incline way
So muscle and strength you have one vid saying don't go all the way down to nearly touch you're shoulders, and in this vid you have Jay saying go all the way down, so wich one is it because the other vid says if you go all the way down you injure you're shoulder, a bit contradicting don't you think?!
I was wondering I saw some where that u should position your arms almost like your doing a arnold press. Also should you square your shoulders when you do a shoulder press
thank you sir
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hi jay ,I would Like to ask what time use drop set and superset in the training is the better thank you !!!!
Cool thanks
You can press higher but it will affect different muscles. If you aren't a bodybuilder you don't need to do it his way.
Do you need to keep elbows flared at 45?
why every1 loves jay
Is there any advantage compared to barbell presses (except the dumbbells don't hit one in the head)?
Eerik Sweden working with dumbbells you are able to create better symmetry
Thanks! ✔
any reason why my back hurts when i do this?
Do you have to be seated at a 90 degree?
Right way for a bodybuilder**
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Say Jay, I want to build shoulders but cut back on the traps. Is that possible and if so how?
Nguyen Lee Do more shoulders and less trap exercises.
Is it wrong if i hold dumbbells in another direction?I mean,i just change the direction of my wrist (i mean,normally your pinkie is facing to your sides,but my pinkie is facing forward)
TheUnderdog6 In the normal position your pinky is facing away from your sides. I'm not quite sure how you would do shoulder presses with your pinky facing your sides?
Tristan V Yeah i made mistake,i wanted to say that normally your pinkie is facing right (right hand) and left (left hand)
So if you have splits like back, chest+shoulders etc, but when you do back, the next day you're soar in your back as well as you biceps, does that mean that you didn't isolate the back enough and let the bicep involve too much?
Lisa ten Holt yes
Lighten the weight, e.g. in the lat pulldown when weight that is too heavy is being lifted, people tend to stop pulling down with the elbows and recruit the bicep muscle. Pull mainly with your elbows for maximum contraction.
For heavy lat pull down use straps. And a overhand grip with open palm dont wrap thumb around and make fist. Never wrap thumb around and make fist on any back movements if possible.. always pull with elbow.. some bicep recruitment will be there but always focus on pull threw with elbow overtime it makes sense but what has really helped me is when doing heavy sets i use straps but do t always depend on straps and u do need to have steing grip.
if i went all the way down my elbows would be at my hips. fuck that, im training my shoulders not destroying them
Thank u jay. I do the same form. But at times whenever. I. Go on 70 lbs. for shoulder dumbbell press. I feel bit of catch in my right rear delt. Next day which stays for atleast 2 to 3 days . I had. Did injured my shoulder few years back but it's better. Now. Is there anyone who could help me
Start doing elastic band exercises/stretches between sets. helped me a lot! and also face pulls :) too much pulling and pushing and not enough rotating does that
thnx man :)
Is it okay to keep arms straight out and wrists forward? I thought it was healthier to slightly rotate your grip forward ...someone knowledgeable please help!
Neutral grip with your elbows tucked more forwards would be safer and less likely to cause shoulder impingement.
You know what’s good for shoulder pain?
What
2:46 “ and thats the white way to do a shoulder press “ hahaha. Jays a beast
Right* way
I didn’t know different races had their own way
I'm legally changing my name to Paulie cutler priest !
sir how to do squat in a proper manner
Weight seems heavy 4 him?!
It is 65. Quite heavy if you do it the right way. Also, we do not know if he was training for hours before.
He was talking simultaneously so no it didn't seem heavy for him.
Heavy but still can do 10 reps with proper form is what you should set your goals too. Not too light not too heavy weight.
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who can argue would Jay Cutler? standing would be better and involving triceps would be more beneficial. the body was not to be used by isolation and carry over to functionality would be better with fewer iso moves.
start at 1:10
sters?
try powerhooks
I always have a tendency to "click at the top" It just seems like the thing to do lol
Contraction is at the top , Jay - the shoulder gets stretched at the bottom of the movement... pretty basic stuff and a little embarrassing
nice
I like how he insist to tell that you should focus on the moviment and not in weight.
That blows the full range of motion theory out the water, is it me or are those half reps?
quick question, how much angle should be there on the bench, as I make it 90 degree and curve my back a bit, which sometimes dont end up well.
1 or two notch below 90`. so maybe a 75 degree angle
Thnks man, it helped me a lot!
:)
+ash432 glad I could help. let me know if you ever have a question.
I prefer 75 also I lift the bottom part as well. Otherwise I get spinal disc problems
When I do shoulders, my shoulders hurt! Any suggestions??
What do you expect? Of course it’s going to hurt
@@takenghost7036 It shouldn’t hurt. Working out isn’t supposed to hurt you. Exhaust and strain you, yes, but not in an injurious way, and that’s what someone is implying is happening when they say it’s hurting.
The answer depends on what is hurting. But for starters, I suggest lighter weight. If anything hurts, stop. Your technique is almost certainly bad. I would keep watching videos on technique, and try with very light weight. Even start with no weight and try out various tips on technique you’ve heard with just your arms until it feels right. Gradually increase weight, and if anything feels wrong, stop again.
Why is it bad that triceps and other muscles get involved? To me it seems like a bonus
theyre trying to fatigue shoulders as much as possible
shoulder workout, therefor you keep the triceps out as much as you can. if you wear out your triceps earlier than you need to you wont be able to fit as much volume into your shoulder workout as well
SkaterLauro isolate the shoulder
Because you will isolate triceps on their own with other lifts. The goal is for your shoulders to grow so triceps being used any more than necessary takes away from the shoulders growing