1970-81 Camaro Wiper Switches and Hidden Wipers

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @jmiles1960
    @jmiles1960 Год назад +1

    Just wanted to say "Thank You" again for this excellent video and your detailed knowledge. I duplicated your wiring setup and was able to troubleshoot my wiper motor on the bench and found the problem was the "park switch". You saved me many hours and dollars! I was able to clean up the park switch with electronic cleaner and it is going to "park" once again.

  • @gmot455
    @gmot455 2 года назад +1

    OUR 76 Trans Am we just got had a toggle switch for the wipers. I got a couple switches off Ebay and your wiring diagram is a great help to me. I got it to move the wipers about 2 inches and then they stop and never move again. Working on it.

  • @olivierbuyer1358
    @olivierbuyer1358 6 лет назад +1

    I'm a french owner of a 1975 camaro and i have several things to do on it. Thank you for your video, very clear, it helped me to make my wipers work again😉👍

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад +1

      That is great. Hearing that makes these videos worth the time and effort to make them. Thanks for letting me know and watching.

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 6 лет назад +1

    Not only are you a master at body work, your not bad at electrical! This will surely help a lot of people.

  • @darrinsinger4231
    @darrinsinger4231 6 лет назад +1

    You should have been with us back in the late 80's replacing those switches, we got to learn the hard way of which switch went to what year of Camaro.. When the switches started going bad on mine and my friends Camaro's we went to the local junkyards and it was a lot of fun getting the right one out of the same year car in rural Ohio, the fan switches were fun also because they always went bad in the '70-'81 model and those were fun to replace also. Good memories, thanks Russ!!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      I bet that was frustrating. Thanks Darrin. I wish there was still alot of these cars around for parts.

    • @darrinsinger4231
      @darrinsinger4231 6 лет назад

      It wasn't that bad Russ, what was nice that my friends and I had different year cars so we had an idea about the smaller differences in them.. Me too my friend, the days of going down to the local buy here pay here and picking them up for less then a grand are long gone

  • @jamesmartin2339
    @jamesmartin2339 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for doing this video it will be a great help to the community. Our cars are rare enough now that just collecting the wiper switches to do this would be difficult.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  5 лет назад +1

      That is one reason I had so many switches, I had been collecting them for awhile. It had always been a confusing circuit for me. I hope it helps others. Thanks for watching.

  • @defeyago
    @defeyago 15 дней назад +1

    Hi Russ. Could you show me the wiring under the green box in the wiper case? I guess someone modified something there and now never stops. Thanks!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  13 дней назад +1

      The two units I have are packed away. Next time I get my hands on one, Ill snap some photos for you

    • @defeyago
      @defeyago 13 дней назад

      @DoubleRRestorations thanks Russ! I'll appreciate that. Somebody has been in there and I guess something is not right. Cheers.

  • @rogerstilwell7767
    @rogerstilwell7767 6 лет назад +1

    Great Video Russ. A lot of good info and well explained. Who would have known there were that many switches for a Camaro.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks Roger. Hopefully now I can get the gauge bezel I need and I will be ready when I get to that point.

  • @timmycolson7403
    @timmycolson7403 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video 👍. Just started Working on my wipers on my 78 T-top camaro, don’t know if the switch or motor is not working. I have power at the wiper fuse . Is there a wiring diagram for the wipers so I can chase and trace?
    Thanks for any help 👍

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  2 года назад

      Timmy, Sorry I don't happen to have a schematic. There are a few good ones on google images that may help. You could always take it out of the car and bench test it.

  • @80camaroguy10
    @80camaroguy10 Год назад +1

    Are those other switches a direct replacement that will work in place of the OEM switch that they no longer make and if so what is the part number for the one that does delay? Thanks for all your help. Dave

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад

      Dave, I don't have any experience with the units that have delay. I think you can make most of all these switches work with the correct wiring configuration. Thanks.

  • @robertboyer2954
    @robertboyer2954 Год назад +1

    Another awesome video that helps me out tremendously. So it looks like you can use any switch with the hidden wiper motor and the motor will still park the wiper blades?? Thanks.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад +1

      Thank you, and yes it just depends on the wiring. The motor must go back to low speed before it can park.

    • @robertboyer2954
      @robertboyer2954 Год назад

      Got it. Thank you very much sir. I don't suppose you had a video installing the bow style headliner in your Project Overkill???@@DoubleRRestorations

  • @kel5194
    @kel5194 7 месяцев назад +1

    A bit off topic, outdo you know what type of pins are inside the cluster circuit connector (12 pins).

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 месяцев назад

      Not sure I follow. Are you talking about the 12 pin connection for the cluster?

    • @kel5194
      @kel5194 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes. I have since found those pins and have fixed it. I de-pinned and replaced the pins. Thank you for your reply.

  • @ta51503828
    @ta51503828 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for taking the time to make this great video. Can you tell me what could cause wipers to be stay running even with switch off? Mine are pulse type in a 79 with the squirt pump in the motor assembly. They started running all the time and wont stop.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад +1

      I have never had any experience with a wiper system with pulse wipers. If the motor is similar to a regular one, it must go back to low speed before it can park. I guess it possible that it could be the switch, the motor or internal wiring. I would probably pull the motor and bench test it.

  • @patrickpxt2805
    @patrickpxt2805 Год назад +1

    Hello , I own a 82 transam with the delay wiper and I wish I had your help . Can you tell me the wire connections to the delay relay?

  • @Ghostrider19D
    @Ghostrider19D 2 года назад +1

    Any diagnostic info on the pulse delay system? 78-79. Switch #14001502. Mine runs with key on won't shut off, new seven terminal motor installed. Squirters want to run and it stays in high speed. Switch to high and it goes to low speed. No apparent shirts to ground in the harness.

  • @photoshhere5
    @photoshhere5 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wipers in my 77 Firebird would not shut off. Prolonged voltage drops and instrument light flashing insanity. Then the diagrams and teaching you provided inspired me to jump the ground in the switch over to the body. Problem solved. Thank you for sharing your expertise. MT

  • @darwinponto9491
    @darwinponto9491 2 года назад +1

    Hi russ would you have assembly intructions to reassemble inside of the gear box
    I opened mine and a peice fell out
    Not sure where is goes
    Can you help

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  2 года назад

      Just saw this, I don't have assembly instructions, did you get it figured out?

    • @darwinponto9491
      @darwinponto9491 2 года назад

      @@DoubleRRestorations
      Hi russ
      Yes u
      I did once I stared at or for a while it made sense
      Also found a picture so I could verify and to my surprise I did it correct
      I now just need to find the relay inside with the terminals on it this one is bad
      I would send a picture but not sure how

  • @KenSellers
    @KenSellers 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, this video really helped with a total rewire of a 1980 Camaro. Same '549 switch as your '81. Testing with an ohmmeter, it seems a little shaky in the Low speed position (not reliable continuity). You mentioned having rebuilt some of these switches. Any chance you have a video on that, or one you like? Looking at mine, first thought is it would be easy to break the tabs holding it together. Thanks!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  2 года назад +1

      I don't have a vid on rebuilding the switch, but the one I rebuilt was pretty straightforward. Just be careful not to break the clips and when you first open, try to be as gentle as possible, not to lose the orientation of the parts inside. I hope it helps

  • @jonathanbriceno4892
    @jonathanbriceno4892 2 года назад +1

    Good morning friend, I would like to ask you a question. Have you worked with the GM 7835342 wiper switch? My case is the following. I have a 1982 Chevrolet Malibu and it uses that switch but I really can't get it to work. The wiper motor is generic, and I've already managed to identify the fast speed, slow speed, the positive, the negative, and the switch. and still can't get it to work. I would really appreciate your help my friend. greetings and a big hug from Venezuela and forgive my bad English.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  2 года назад

      Hey there, sorry, just saw this. Did you get it to work? I don't have any experience with that switch, but it should just switch the ground side of the circuit starting at low speed, then high, most motors have to go back to low speed before they can park. I hope it helps

  • @rickmorris3580
    @rickmorris3580 2 года назад +1

    Hey, I have a 1980 Camaro without pulse wiper switch that doesn't work. It's exactly the same as your #549. I haven't been able to find a new replacement. Any idea where I could get something that would fit? I can find used replacements online but they could be just as bad as the switch I have. Also, any idea what I'd need to do to convert my wipers to pulse? Thanks

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  2 года назад

      I have no experience with the pulse. I feel like it was a rare option on these cars. It is a completely different switch/motor. As for replacements, most likely you will have to go with a donor part. Sometimes you can find them on eBay with a 30 day money back option

    • @rickmorris3580
      @rickmorris3580 2 года назад

      @@DoubleRRestorations Ok, thanks!

  • @wileygailey9553
    @wileygailey9553 6 лет назад

    Outstanding video Russ. Looking forward to the washer vid.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Thanks Wiley. Should be out Sunday. Putting the finishing touches on it this week.

  • @frankoberle7555
    @frankoberle7555 3 года назад +1

    Okay so I a 72 w/hidden wipers. Every switch you used seemed to put the wiper motor in "park". Am I looking at that wrong? It is near impossible to find a 72 hidden wiper switch and I am told the "standard" switch will not work. I have a t/a switch that I was told will work but I just wanted your humble advice before I mess up anything. Thanks for the video!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  3 года назад

      It probably will work. I would take an ohm meter and see what the pin out of the switch is. Most likely it will be the same as one of the switches in the vid. You could always bench test it before trying it in the car. Your only switching the ground side of the circuit, so you should be safe from messing anything up. Basically the motor goes into low speed before it can go into high, then it must go back into low before it can park. Hope it works for you and you are correct, the hidden wiper switches are difficult to find.

    • @frankoberle7555
      @frankoberle7555 3 года назад +1

      @@DoubleRRestorations Thank you brother! I will certainly try it.

  • @jmiles1960
    @jmiles1960 Год назад +1

    Excellent video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад

      Thanks James. I learned alot on this video. I had a few vids on this subject where I was trying to help a fellow RUclipsr with his car and those led to this video.

    • @jmiles1960
      @jmiles1960 Год назад +1

      @@DoubleRRestorations The pin out / schematic was a big help. My wipers on my 73 Camaro will not turn off. I have the 147 switch. I suspect it something in the switch has gone bad / broken. I was planning to disassemble the switch. Any advice is appreciated. I am just starting to troubleshoot. Thanks again!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад

      @James Miles From memory, the wiper motor has to go back to low speed before it can park. Sometimes it's worth bench testing. Also make sure the motor has a good ground

    • @jmiles1960
      @jmiles1960 Год назад +1

      If my wipers won't turn off (147 switch), do you think it is in the Switch or at the motor? I heard you mention about a resistor on the motor assembly for the park mechanism. Thanks for the help.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад

      It's definitely worth checking. You can take them apart and clean them. You just have to take your time and reapply some dielectric grease. The stuff hardens up after several of years. It could be something at the motor ad well.

  • @monteracer2008
    @monteracer2008 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video- Can you tell me the wiring colors and where they go on a 131 switch? It has 5 wires total. Dark blue-Light blue-small black-large black-black with eyelet hole. Thanks for any help

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад

      Unfortunately I have never worked with that switch. You should be able to use an ohm meter and figure out its pin out. I bet its similar to one in this vid. As for the colors, I don't have a schematic. I would try to use the ohm meter again and see which one goes where to the motor. The one with the eyelet will definitely be a case ground.

  • @scottsienkiewicz8371
    @scottsienkiewicz8371 Год назад +1

    Big help, Differences between switches and the fact that my power wire goes to the middle tab. Thanks!!

  • @Raizo950
    @Raizo950 Год назад +1

    Is there a kit or way to swap out the 2 speed wiper system? 2 speed sucks, don't need to run all the time

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  Год назад

      There could be something in the aftermarket, but I'm not aware of a kit

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan 6 лет назад

    Good to see you back Russ.

  • @indyme2
    @indyme2 6 лет назад +1

    Great info, Russ. Very complete and well presented. Thanks!

  • @robertmccully2792
    @robertmccully2792 4 года назад +1

    A good way to clean terminals ,plastic, and rubber is sand blast, with the harbor freight stand up blaster. Good video.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад

      Great tip! A blaster is a must have tool for restoration work.

  • @blueresendez
    @blueresendez 5 лет назад

    Ive been looking for a video on this for 2 hrs and this is as close as i got.. (your video)!!.. you should meke a video on how to install old school GM wiper switches...

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  5 лет назад +1

      Not sure on the Impala, but on the second gen Camaro the wiper switch is mounted to the gauge bezel using screws.

  • @ernestc9586
    @ernestc9586 4 года назад +1

    Building a 76 rally sport , where did you find so many switchs. Looking for a 176 switch.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад +1

      I have been buying them here and there, mainly swapmeets. Lately the prices has went crazy on ebay for any wiper switches. Hopefully the aftermarket companies will start reproducing some of these. I'll keep an eye open for a 176 for ya. Thanks for watching

  • @jannekallio5047
    @jannekallio5047 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Helped me to understand few things and confirm my 128-switch is most likely broken. I know it is of course wrong, but I wonder if anyone making bigger modifications to their old Camaro has updated the whole switch to something more modern and relocated it from the dashboard. I would like something I can reach with my fingers from the steering wheel. My 72 Camaro has lot of new tech installed by the previous owners including a 2001 Corvette engine. It had also already a separate button for the washer added by the previous owner and it did not work even though the motor for wipers and washer was new. As I could not make the washer work and I prefer the washer to work continuously as long as I press a button, I already bypassed the pump and replaced with a modern pump. Motor for the wipers can stay original, but I am thinking if I could find a more modern and still good looking switch from some other car and replace the original one that is broken. I am currently making a new dashboard so this could be done at the same time maybe. Maybe I buy some used one and modify it to resemble the signal light switch. How to attach it to the base of the steering wheel remains open... but yeah, I wonder if anyone else has tried this before.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад

      Awesome, glad to hear the video helped. I know some folks have added electric pumps to the motor.

  • @TheOpenAirGarage
    @TheOpenAirGarage 6 лет назад +1

    More good and useful information. Getting shocked is definitely no fun. Nicely done!

  • @blueresendez
    @blueresendez 5 лет назад +1

    Hello my friend, i have a 69 impala and i been trying to install my new wiper switch back on my dash.. it looks like the ones you have on the table there.. i have it where it goes and its pluged in, and its working , but its just flopping around i cant find where any screws go...😫.. if you can help me i would be very grateful sir... thanks

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  5 лет назад

      I'm not sure on the Impala's, but on the Camaro, the wiper switch is fastened to the gauge bezel with screws. Hope it helps.

  • @MidwestMotoRider
    @MidwestMotoRider 6 лет назад +1

    Wow that is a great deal of info and presented VERY well!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks Scott, I was worried how I was going to put all of this in a vid.

  • @perrywe1
    @perrywe1 6 лет назад

    Good detailed info Russ. My 69 is similar. This will help me.

  • @mikeromines9063
    @mikeromines9063 4 года назад

    i don.t if will see this but i can.t find the 097 wiper switch hiden wiper swich for 70 to 71 camaro but what i was thinking was will the 70 chevelle can be bent to work in 70 camaro

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад

      I'm not sure, I suppose with some modifications it would be possible

  • @superduperman323
    @superduperman323 4 года назад +1

    Do you have that 176 wiper switch for sale? Please let me know! Thanks!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад +1

      I sure dont. I'll keep my eyes open for one for you.

    • @superduperman323
      @superduperman323 4 года назад +2

      @@DoubleRRestorations Thank you sir! Love your channel by the way!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад +1

      @@superduperman323 Thank you. I hope to have some new videos out soon.

  • @UCanDoIt2Mike
    @UCanDoIt2Mike 6 лет назад

    That's going to help a whole lotta folks Russell! Cheers!

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Thanks Mike. I hope it does. Its been one of those things on these cars that i didn't really understand.

    • @UCanDoIt2Mike
      @UCanDoIt2Mike 6 лет назад

      Double R Restorations Well your research was excellent because you explained it very well.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Thanks for the kind words Mike

  • @ernestc9586
    @ernestc9586 4 года назад +2

    Thank you, l really enjoy you channel.

  • @fatstercat
    @fatstercat 6 лет назад +1

    Thorough and well explained

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Thanks Mark. I'm sure it will help all of us second gen guys out.

    • @MadDZines
      @MadDZines 4 года назад

      @@DoubleRRestorations How common is it for the switch to go bad? I have a 127 and the switch looks good, but the wiper motor stopped shutting off and the motor had some smoke coming from it. Could the switch be fine and the motor be bad?

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  4 года назад

      @@MadDZines It is possible for either one to be bad. You should be able to verify the switch with an ohm meter. If it checks out, I would say that something may have let go in the motor. Also double check the wiring going to the motor. If all else fails you could always bench test the motor to verify if its defective.

  • @Larry-cp3uy
    @Larry-cp3uy 6 лет назад

    Hello Russ, can you tell me where I can find a 127 switch for my 1970 Camaro please? Thank you.

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Larry, they show up on eBay every now and then, also might check in the swap meet section on nastyZ28.com

    • @Larry-cp3uy
      @Larry-cp3uy 6 лет назад

      Thanks so much Russ :)

  • @SprayWayCustoms
    @SprayWayCustoms 6 лет назад

    Well explained Russ

  • @gonzo7188
    @gonzo7188 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome awesome video. Thanks Russ

  • @thekinksman1
    @thekinksman1 6 лет назад

    Note the 1970 1971 RS Camaro [dash mounted] hidden windshield wiper switches .Part no.19904097 or part no.1994098 are different hook ups. Then the 1974 to 1981 ones

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Good to know. Thanks for sharing. There are a few more different switches for these cars, but I only tested the ones I had. Not sure why GM used so many. lol.

    • @jasonhull5712
      @jasonhull5712 2 года назад

      Yeah that's what I'm learning.. I have the correct motor, correct #097 switch and I can't find any wiring diagrams or videos on it. I'm told it is the "rare" #097 switch... guess that's why I can't figure it out or find a drawing of the wiring. This has been the most frustrating part of building this car so far. I have four different switches, two different motors, three sets of wiper transmissions, all new AAW classic update kit installed and no matter what I do the new motor just runs... if the key is on the wipers are on. It's not the park relay everyone is telling me it is because they start right back up when the ignition is turned back on.

    • @perrykober9252
      @perrykober9252 11 дней назад

      @@jasonhull5712
      Any luck with a fix. I have the same issue 71 Camaro and 097 switch. Switch is broken and need the 097 due to dash mounted in the bezel and it's angles. Any switch work arounds possible.

  • @paulthompson1654
    @paulthompson1654 3 года назад +1

    hi
    Thanks for explaining . After doing some research myself wipers on GM are a disaster and take serious thought .
    Wait till u have an over seas GM car they are a complete mix of all the above . Yes my switch is identical to 186 terminal layout
    2sp slide with separate washer push button

  • @JoDaddysGarage
    @JoDaddysGarage 6 лет назад

    Excellent.

  • @chrismansker8870
    @chrismansker8870 6 лет назад

    great video russ

  • @bill56belair60
    @bill56belair60 6 лет назад

    great video Russ

  • @DriveShaftDrew
    @DriveShaftDrew 6 лет назад

    THUMBS UP AND SHARED great info for all

  • @samsgarage2856
    @samsgarage2856 6 лет назад

    I had no idea there were so many types of switches.

  • @jefflindsey9589
    @jefflindsey9589 6 лет назад

    Hey man, just found your channel. Looks great! 😬 What the heck happened? I resubbed Russ...??

    • @DoubleRRestorations
      @DoubleRRestorations  6 лет назад

      Welcome back. lol. RUclips has some issue's, I'm not sure. I know my channel has fell off quite alot since I started making vids again. It was actually doing better during the 2 month break I took. lol