If it wasn't for that, Somnus might get off the hook, regarding my opinion of him, but this statement shows, that he did not only do his calling but acted by his own desire. For me, that tainted his lineage as well as the kingdom, Somnus built. His title shall still begin with F but not as the Founder, but the Failed King.
Well now Noctis's final confrontation with him makes sense. He's not putting down a twisted family member fueled with spite and malice, he's giving peace to a member of a family who was wronged in the worse way imaginable. You deserved better, Ardyn.
The only way he'll get peace is by killing the main god of that world, Behemut. The final warriors to fight Behemut were meant to be Noctis, Lunafreya, Aranea and Ardyn himself. @@ManicRevolver
@@maswayne3878 Square Enix cut all of there funding before they could finish those episodes. You have to read about it in the book. Its called Final Fantasy XV Dawn of the Future.
All honesty everyone real problem with this game is it took a crap ton of updates and dlc for it live up to what is was supposed to be hense why it got so much hate, but i do agree the soundtrack for FfXV has always been god like, i also bring this up because this games issues have blead over to KH3
@@VannsTHeir honestly ff15 isnt what they said we were going to get even now, and never will be. Large areas that were supposed to be playable cut, then the dlc being canceled. And honestly the dlc being cut is what hurts the most because of the awesome music we wont get to experience, and other characters we dont get to see what they were up to.
The problem with story was that they purposefully left stuff empty just to sell DLC. But now due to management changes, the remaining DLC is canceled, so this strategy built on Greed is all empty and prevents a good game from being great.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 I think FF XV is pressured to come out early just to get result and money first. They waste a lot of money in development, by changing engine and writer. Those spendings are wasted and they need money fast so the investor is not pissed. So they release it incompletely in the hope that the money from the incomplete game can make them money to develop more content. Basically bad management and indecisiveness
Imagine raising a whole kingdom out of nothing, and then being brought back from the dead 2000 years later just so you can get your ass whooped to a remix of your own theme song
too bad that the director has resigned, and the dlc is cancelled. . . now we'll never see the closure of this tale, where noctis and ardyn go hand in hand defeat the real villain. . . the "gods" who play them like a pawn in a chessboard. . .
@@Zeracheil i'm a gamer, not a novel reader :) even if i'm a novel reader, i won't even bother to read ff15, i'll read jrr tolkien's work. . . lol. . .
@@xRaineDropsx Well to be fair Though Bahamut orchestrated this farce to go the way it did Somnus says "When I ascended the throne. I knew it could not belong to someone that is tainted." Meaning that if you watched the anime it seems clear Somnus didn't know shit about full extent of Ardyn's condition until he tried to kill him. Meaning that if not for the Star Scourge Somnus would have succeeded in killing him outright. The only person who knew the truth the Oracle who died trying to save Ardyn, it was easy to trick the people into thinking Somnus was chosen. Especially with the little show that was put on. And what did Bahamut promise for Ardyn's trouble. His revenge, but not before he finally died a pariah, no one to ever know the truth of his legacy and forever hated as the harbinger of doom. The worst part it didn't matter if he resisted or not, either way he'd lose and the gods will would be sated. WHY COULDN'T DAWN OF THE FUTURE BE PUT IN THE GAME! Come on Square! I WANT TO PUT THE SCREWS TO SOMNUS AND THAT FUCKING CHEEP DRAGONKIN KNOCKOFF!
Somnus begs for Ardyn's understanding, but he never once tried to empathize with his brother. He tried to kill Ardyn, accidentally murdering the Oracle, stole his throne and sentenced him to millennia of darkness and suffering... and Somnus thinks HE'S the victim here?! He got everything and never paid for his crimes. He built a nation and a myth out of blood, lies and got to rest in peace.
I love how Ardyn says "Let the game begin", and Somnus replies with "This is no beginning - only the end." just like how when Ardyn said that to Noctis, he replied with "No. Now they end."
Somnus justified his greed and envy with saving their "people". He truly commited treason, killing both his brother and The Oracle. Somnus is the true monster. It's a pity we didn't get Ardyn corrupting Somnus to a point of no return. That would be satisfying.
@@pedroxruz6032 he actually asks Noctis to "Free his brother from his curse" clearly this fight with Ardyn made Somnus realise just how much he f**ked up... still; screw Somnus!!
Exactly! Turn hin into a being left in darkness and ripped of the closure of death, just what had been done to Ardyn, but as well degrading him into some unrecognisable monster. A form fitting to his choices.
Chase Langlands if you look at it in a way, the entire line of lucis including Ardyn, the oracles and humanity themselves are nothing but pawn in their chessboard like cannon fodder.
Wasn't the Meteor of the Six that brought the Starscourge to Eos, along with the Astrals? It makes it look like both Scourge and Astrals were sealed away together...
@@Eckskalibur When has a god ever truly care? Just look around you. Then again god might just be a figment of our imagination. Born from the lonely heart of man. Also what does emotions and thought worth in this world? The world only answer through force.
This is what makes FFXV great! We have two characters: Noctis and Ardyn. Both can be the Hero of the story or the villain. It changes the way we view things when we play the game again.
@@soralight_x Well, except Xehanort didn't went through crap like Ardyn did. Not to mention his (Xehanort's) actions aren't done out of vengeance and hate, but out of obsession for knowledge and power. So, Ardyn's actions are more justified than Xehanort's. P.S: this is my personal opinion and it is not a fact. I'm not trying to start a fight or something.
@@jorgemathiasbenitezsaldiva8131 Well, Eraqus & Xehanort are also considered the Sora & Riku of their Time. In fact they've been Considered the Sora & Riku even before FFXV came out.
5:09 - “Lies, Fairytales, and Fallacies - ALL OF IT!” Not sure why, but this line stands out to me. A part of me wants to use it in general conversation someday.
I completely agree and side with Ardyn on this. Nothing worse than the "light" pretending to be good and the righteous one while truthfully being downright evil the whole time. In FFXV, the Lucius Caelum line is Chaotic Good, while Ardyn is Lawful Evil.
Dylan Palton well the entire world was literally against him from the start... the gods betrayed him, his family betrayed him, history forgot him, and to top it off by the start of FF15 everyone hated him regardless... from a philosophical point, why shouldn’t he tear the world asunder since it doesn’t matter one way or another to him... what I’m trying to say is that from his point of view it is justified but it is also justified to stop it him in essence no one here can be faulted except for Somnus and the gods (and maybe aera or whatever her name was)
Uhmmm... No, the Lucis Caelum line is simply Law, and Ardyn is simply Chaos. Bahamut - YHVH Ardyn - Lucifer Somnus - Metatron/Merkabah Noctis - Protagonist
I feel really sorry for Ardyn as a character. He's a villain, yeah, and he causes a lot of pain and destruction on his quest. But I honestly can't even hate him for it. As human beings, we can't even imagine what it would be like to be subjected to 2,000 years of torment, and after being betrayed by those close to us, no less. I don't think you could expect a person to come out of that and NOT be as bitter and hateful as Ardyn. The poor guy deserved a rest. There's only so much a person can take before they break, and he far-exceeded that point, I'm sure. As a side note, I really love how Ardyn and Somnus have this heartbreaking conversation while they're wailing on each other. I feel like it humanizes them --- reminds us at the end of the day, they're still brothers and part reason Ardyn is so hurt and embittered is BECAUSE of that fact. It's the people we love the most who have the power to hurt us the most, and this battle really shows what a rich and complicated history they have together.
This ^. Something that really hit me was Verstael remarking how surprised he'd be if Ardyn hadn't lost all sense of time. Imagine not being able to tell the difference between 7 months and 7 seconds. Solitary confinement for 2000 years would screw anyone up.
Ardyn and Somnus story has me partially think of Cain and Abel, when Cain became jealous of his sibling and chose to kill him for that reason. If only the writers had Ardyn try to tell his story to the world of what Somnus did while also fulfilling his predestined fate, I think that would be interesting to see how other characters would react of knowing the truth.
RareEnigma™ nah,they dont know,everyone of them include noctis,luna and co die as a blind puppet,only ardyn knew truth that the gods use them for their own selfish reason.
hisyam amiruddin I have a feeling that Noctis knew he was being manipulated by the time the game ended. He simply pushed on to save his people. I don't recall him being happy at any point when the gods show up after he comes back. And he didn't try to resist the fate given to him, so I think that Bahamut gave him the same talk he gave Ardyn. At that point, it's just a matter of putting the pieces together.
@@thatamericannarrator8247 by the end, after Ardyn inquires about whether he's going to be "Erased from history once again" Noctis straight up says "This time, you can finally rest in peace" Noctis and Ardyn were both screwed over by Bahamut, but in the end; Ardyn couldn't repent... as he'd lost too much, and Noctis couldn't stop his crusade to console Ardyn and try to make peace with him because the world needed him to stop Ardyn and Ardyn was beyond saving
BaccaratLab It's like Dante vs Vergil, but more fucked. I mean, at least the Sparda twins kinda fixed their relationship.What these two have is worst than war
he is very tragic villain, but he is not anti-hero. There is nothing noble in his actions, he wants to destroy the world to have revenge on all that wronged him humans and gods
Not an anti hero. More like a tragic villain. Sure, he suffered greatly and it may seem like his actions are justified, but they include harming innocents that had nothing to do with his imprisonment and torture. So his actions cannot be justified because he became just like the monster Somnus was in the past.
Poor Ardyn. 😥 He’s been resisting his fate for about 2 Millenia until finally succumbing to it. He wasn’t even allowed to die. He honestly would’ve preferred to die along with his love when Somnus killed her.
It is heavily inplied on the Main Story that Ardyn didn't start out being evil & driven. In the Pocket Edition during Noct's Last Stand with Ardyn he even states that Ardyn was meant to be a Kind & Noble King.
You know when ardyn was released from his prison, he didnt want to kill nor hurt anyone. But the fucking kingsglaive attacked and tried to kill him anyway. So really, everything was lucis, the caelum and the astrals' fault.
As I keep watching bits of the episodes and the main story, I start to really understand ardyn, like his intent and what he wanted, why he did what he did, and why he was fulfilling fate, he’s not a villain to me, he’s just a man with nothing left to loose in life, it was all stolen from him
0:21 Can you please summon my brother Can you please summon my brother Can you please summon my brother Can you please summon my brother Can you please summon my brother
Somnus was truly a terrible brother and a hater. Literally destroyed his brother's life, killed his fiancée, and to add insult to injury forced him to go by another name and erase him from existence and he's playing surprised Pikachu he has all that hatred and pent up immense power.
It’s because he knew what his brother would become. The gods consider themselves pure righteous the moment Arden removed the starscourge from people the gods saw as tainted and favored somnus. The gods told somnus what to do and like he said at the end “our line has done everything in our power to protect our people. Just as the gods bade I was merely for filling my calling” what happened to Arden was his own fault and somnus did what he was told to do.
@@hollandjimenez6592 What? Since when is something Arden get it's his own fault? Did we see the same game? Arden basically someone who chosen and did his duty from the God properly to save the world from the plague in the past by using the power the God give him. Arden even sacrifice himself to be the plague vessel so the world are saved from the scourge. Also no, the plague is not the reason for him turn evil, but Somnus betrayal and by the destiny the God made for him. Arden as we know is the first chosen king by the God, Somnus never was. But because he hear the answer accidentally from the Aera (Arden Fiance, and the Oracle at that time) person who will be chosen by the King is Arden. Somnus start making an obnoxious plan to make himself a king instead and try to shut Aera, but his plan somehow become easier because Arden accidentally show his scourge power because of the rage he made after Aera dead in the hand of Somnus, make Arden get jailed instead and erase from history. Also Arden, even after he gets free from the prison by Nilfheim Empire, he still has a patience and doesn't want to did revenge to royal blood at first and still have some reedem quality for not doing insane to destroy the world even after that very long exile. Until... The Lucis Empire, Destiny and a trauma force him to become one, especially when the God Bahamut start talking about some bullshit that this is his destiny in the front of him, like this is his duty to be a lord of darkness that who will bring the world eternal night until the second chosen King appear to kill him! That when he start losing his shit and become the irredeemable monster we knew in the game. Arden is someone who was born purposely to be sacrificial vessel and to be destroyed to safe the world from starscourge plague.
When the Villain actually has more good and justified intentions than the supposed Gods of the Universe. That is Arydn and that is the terrible truth of the Final Fantasy universe. Throw everyrhing out the window because those you fought to reinstate their rule, were the ones that were truly meant to be dethroned for the greater good.
To be fair, villains tend to have more good and justified intentions than the supposed God of _our_ Universe... When it comes down to it, the big-wigs always suck. Everything is always just about oppressing the little guy who's already a victim anyway.
With the 10 years of production they coulve made - FFXV-1: The First King - FFXV-2: The Last King DLC: 1. The Story of the Sohlheim (before the era of Somnus and Ardyn) 2. Aranea 3. Kinglaisve as a game dlc instead of movie -Nyx 4. Lunafreya 5. Regis 7. Noctis' bros 8. Happy ending DLC
@@soralight_x ardyn was so powerfull that the only ones or thing able to beat him not even bahamut with the gods , was all the knight of the rounds with noctis with the ring and 10 years off charging power CRAZY!!!!!
When you got one mistake in your mathematics test and you thought you got the highest score but someone got a perfect score Me: "Oh here I thought I was the blessed one, but it was you all along"
More like your best friend cheating the test and somehow the whole school believe that your friend isn't cheated and then you want rebel against the school but the school knows that your friend's cheating
Somnus: I ask not for your forgiveness, but I do ask for your understanding. Ardyn: Understand the bottom of my boot. *destroys entire Kingdom and ends their lineage*
Sommnus was doing his part like the gods said but he definitely enjoying it he showed no regret and even sounded happy when killing that girl He taunts you and hates on you for the whole fight but at the end he goes I was jealous but then said he was doing what he had too. Its hard to tell if he was evil, good, neutral or used by Bahamut
I don’t see Somnus as a villain. I see him as a poor misguided tool to be used by the gods bidding. He was tricked into doing what he did so the Bahamut’s plan can go into fruition.
Still so salty we didn't get the lunafreya dlc where we could actually gang up againdt bahumet and get a satisfactory ending. Fuck the novel I wanna see it visually in the game like we were supposed too, I feel so robbed.
Somnus: "I dare not ask your forgiveness, but I do ask your understanding". Yeah, not In a million years. U still is the most vile person in the entire FF series.
I love Ardyn and so glad he got his retribution on Somnus. FFXV lacked this episode so much - I mean.. this should have simply been FFXV and expanded into a more detailed story arc.
Both Somnus and Ardyn did terrible things, and Somnus could technically be counted as an antagonist, but I like to believe that the real big bad villain of FFXV is Bahamut. Somnus and Ardyn were victims. Their fates weren’t exactly their own :< Also, (based on how I understand the events that happened), FFXV is basically just an entertainment/puppet show for bahamut :// With the whole “everything in this world is pre-ordained.”
I feel like the astral gods are basically Square Enix trying to set up the FFXV story by telling Somnus and Ardyn what to do. Square Enix: *Ardyn is blessed and should be king* *Somnus is commanded to kill Ardyn and become king instead* *Ardyn is bad guy and should be spreading darkness*
I really wished Ardyn would have had the pleasure of following through with His vengeance. To eradicate all of Somnus descendants, to utterly destroy the kingdom of Lucis and forcing his brother to watch as everything he and his descendants built getting turned to ash, thus ruining the gods' o so grand design. No kidding I was really rooting for this dude.
As an anti-monarchist atheist, yeah, I can definitely sympathize with Ardyn's more personal goals... That said, I don't agree with the whole turning-everyone-all-over-the-world-into-deamons-and-ushering-in-an-endless-night part. Like, I understand that he wanted to make his brother and the gods pay, but most of Ardyn's victims were innocents who had, like, nothing to do with their conflict.
@@GrahamChapman to be honest, Ardyn had been screwed over SO many times that he cared very little about "small" things like that, he was a good man, initially horrified that he lost the ability to cure the Starscourge in exchange for the ability to infect others with it... it was only after he learned that he truely was meant to be king that he started to snap... and after Bahamut essentially forced him to be the bad guy, what HE wanted didn't really matter anymore... yes he killed those undeserving of his wrath but then again, so did the so-called Founder King
@@GrahamChapman Agreed! Honestly I hate the Dawn of the Future because the monarchies were a big part of why the world got so screwed up. Ardyn's my favorite character along with Verstael (yeah he's immoral, but he also kills and enslaves freaking gods).
You know, Ardyn is not an totally maniac villain. With me, he is just simply a man who seek what should have belonged to him, and vengeance for the girl he love most. The true purpose of Ardyn is not “World Destruction”; but to end Lucis bloodline, a mere pawn of the god. But what will happen if Somnus and Ardyn join forces, rule together; will that make the future changes? Ardyn can see truth in everything and everyone, he can control darkness and evil in him and can balanced it .He will guide mankind into the age that human is no longer a pawn to the god. He will change the whole Lucis and maybe become the guider of Lucis. But so shame for a bright future...
In this game your where neither good nor bad simply a pawn for the cowardly gods above. Who felt that curing the star scourge was beneath them. So the left it as it was until it became a mild annoyance to them. So they tricked us lowly mortals into a game that we knew not we were apart of. And Ardyn, well he was a pawn that would not be controlled by others will. So he did what only he could do, and strengthen the scourge. He infected many spreading the deamon curse far and wide, even finding the long banished infernion frozen in a deep sleep. He awakens the god and forced him under his thrall, by infecting it too. Yet this was not enough to force the rest of the pantheon onto the board. He had to go further, but first he had to confront the result of his suffering. The kingdom of his brother. He fought and killed on in his wake till he faced his brother. Even he fell before his wrath, and on his knees he pleaded understanding all while justifying his own evil against his Ardyn . "It wasn't my fault, it was the will of the gods calling" before vanishing with hollow words of his wishes of repose for his ardyn. The gods descend but for a moment only to laugh at Ardyn pain. "This my will", the will of behamot your destiny is to die by the kings hands to free the world of your curse". "Why would you need us mortals if your so powerfu"l cried Ardyn surely you had the power to destroy the scourge long before me. Well folks it was a simple answer and not one you likely enjoy. It is beneath us to interfere with the matter of mortals. It is the gods who shape your destiny and life you have no right to question our choices. From that the answer was clear for Ardyn. They could have saved millions of lives but choose instead to allow this mess to be cleaned up my men alone. So Ardyn rejected his fate and turned his blade against Behamot. Angered he summons the spirit of Ardyn lover and forces her to torture Ardyn until he submits. Eventually behamot losses interest and sends him back to his tomb. Ardyn filled with hate and wrath exits his cave vowing to destroy the world to break the game board if it ment destroying the gods themselves. His final acts laid bare over the next decade or so. Wars and strife in constant waves, the spread of beasts and deamons across the land, and his greatest work the manipulation of a Empire to build weapons in his image. "His god killers" who would pull the gods from the heavens and smite them.
The storyline of FF15 is one of the best out of any FF that most people dont even know the half of because they tried to monetize every single aspect of the game so heavily. Had to watch kingsguard and the shitty 4 episode anime they put out just to see the introduction of the game smh 🤦♂️
I wouldn't really say it was them trying to monotize it, rather working with what they had. Yiu gotta remember, Tabata had all of 3 years to develop most of xv from the ground up, so they had to turn to other media to flesh things out. Same with adding the dlc later.
Sorry I'm usually team hero but gotta side with ardyn on this one y'all screwed him over and the gods as well soooooooo he right to kill his family not the noct but his brother understanding my ass I would have slap him around some more
Really well-made fights and plot. It's a shame the rest of these episodes and the alternative ending will continue just as a novel. At least, we do get to see it come to life before they move on to another FF I guess
That American Narrator I honestly wish they kept versus xiii because XV was literally “Bahamut screws everyone over and all the Lucian powers get wiped away.” Ardyn just wants his revenge. Everyone “wins” but everyone really just dies even the last Oracle
Saiyaku I haven't really seen the VS XIII trailers (I was nine at the time and just never thought of looking them up,) but I can agree that it could have been a lot more flashy and fast paced. Then again, as someone with bad eyesight, perhaps I should consider this a blessing haha
Yep, after Noctis gave the Ring of Lucis and the Kings allowing Ardyn to don it, but not after Bahamut casted Teraflare, he managed to destroy him from the Beyond at the cost of his life.
Ardyn transformed into a daemon, and after lamenting his brother had truly become the monster he had made him out to be, Somnus attacked him alongside his sworn shield Gilgamesh. Ardyn sought confirmation on the gods' choice from the Crystal, but was thrown back as the Stone rejected him as unworthy.
Personally, I think they made Somnus too big. I think the fight would have been alot more fun if he was about the size he was when you fought him as Noctis in the Royal Edition content. With Somnus being this big, I actually found it pretty hard to build up a combo because I can't see what he's doing. I also somehow found difficulty just hitting him. So yeah, I didn't have as much fun with this boss as I would have liked, and I think he's easily overshadowed by the fight with Regis.
Somnus: “...just envious, perhaps.”
Me: Perhaps?!
Ardyn: “ ”Perhaps”? ”
Me: You tell him Ardyn!
Kick his ass Ardyn!!♡
If it wasn't for that, Somnus might get off the hook, regarding my opinion of him, but this statement shows, that he did not only do his calling but acted by his own desire. For me, that tainted his lineage as well as the kingdom, Somnus built. His title shall still begin with F but not as the Founder, but the Failed King.
@@xjosna4485 Not just failed, it is a fraud king for a fraud nation, how suitable!
Well now Noctis's final confrontation with him makes sense. He's not putting down a twisted family member fueled with spite and malice, he's giving peace to a member of a family who was wronged in the worse way imaginable. You deserved better, Ardyn.
Indeed. Surprised no one gave you a response.
no wonder the final confrontation between the two is called "cure for insomnia", finally Ardyn at peace
The only way he'll get peace is by killing the main god of that world, Behemut. The final warriors to fight Behemut were meant to be Noctis, Lunafreya, Aranea and Ardyn himself. @@ManicRevolver
Which episode @@luispalacios8423
@@maswayne3878 Square Enix cut all of there funding before they could finish those episodes. You have to read about it in the book. Its called Final Fantasy XV Dawn of the Future.
**casually lifts arm**
"Is he dead?"
Kills me everytime.
Funnier thing is that I reacted exact the same way as Ardyn,watching this moment ;-) :-D :-D :-D :-D
When you know he's not dead but you still believe he is
Some Overcatious Hero: "Stand back, let me burn this man to dust with inferno"
The bloodlines of Lucius are weak 😂😂
My reaction when I killed the last boss in less than 5 minutes
You can say many things about FF XV, a bad soundtrack is not one of them
All honesty everyone real problem with this game is it took a crap ton of updates and dlc for it live up to what is was supposed to be hense why it got so much hate, but i do agree the soundtrack for FfXV has always been god like, i also bring this up because this games issues have blead over to KH3
@@VannsTHeir honestly ff15 isnt what they said we were going to get even now, and never will be. Large areas that were supposed to be playable cut, then the dlc being canceled. And honestly the dlc being cut is what hurts the most because of the awesome music we wont get to experience, and other characters we dont get to see what they were up to.
Final Fantasy games always excelled in terms of music.
The problem with story was that they purposefully left stuff empty just to sell DLC. But now due to management changes, the remaining DLC is canceled, so this strategy built on Greed is all empty and prevents a good game from being great.
@@deadpoolrockz6410 I think FF XV is pressured to come out early just to get result and money first. They waste a lot of money in development, by changing engine and writer. Those spendings are wasted and they need money fast so the investor is not pissed. So they release it incompletely in the hope that the money from the incomplete game can make them money to develop more content.
Basically bad management and indecisiveness
"I understood:... That a sinner could not be allowed to sit the throne!"
Well Somnus, that pretty well rules you out.
hey somnus, you ever here the story of the pot calling the kettle black?
“I will lie and cheat and kill my own brother by tricking him out. But naw he’s the sinner brah”
Killa Scotch Sure, if absorbing painful entities so that they won’t hurt other people is dirty.
@@I_EaTApple My contention is that Ardyn's soul wasn't dirty and that the Crystal is an arbitrary a**hole in its methods of choice.
Gods consider their self righteousness as law.
gods are not good here, like greek gods.
Aka When your most popular character is the Villain
How dare you call Gladio’s abs the villain
How dare you call Noctis’ fish a villain
How dare you call Prompto's camera a villain
@@deadweight231 rofl
How dare you call Ignis's cooking the villain
Imagine raising a whole kingdom out of nothing, and then being brought back from the dead 2000 years later just so you can get your ass whooped to a remix of your own theme song
Off that hurt
Here i thought the gods did our boy ardyn dirty… somnus got it worse lmaoo
@@adaman.shr.3538 *Oof
@@HyperSonicXtreme that had to hurt so hart he will feel that in the morning and the night all the week.
@@roymustang08 If you watch the anime somnus betrayed ardyn and made a deal with bahamuth to lure him to become corrupted by the scourge
too bad that the director has resigned, and the dlc is cancelled. . . now we'll never see the closure of this tale, where noctis and ardyn go hand in hand defeat the real villain. . . the "gods" who play them like a pawn in a chessboard. . .
There is a book coming out which is basically episode noctis
@@Zeracheil i'm a gamer, not a novel reader :) even if i'm a novel reader, i won't even bother to read ff15, i'll read jrr tolkien's work. . . lol. . .
@@FatPikachu369 ff10 had a novel continue after the ending did you read that.
Well in my country its 20$
@@Zeracheil The whole game is episode Noctis ...
Somnus is so pathetic. He tried to win the moral race at the end, asking to be understand and for the greater good. But he was envious.
Bahamut?
deray bell Bingo.
@@xRaineDropsx Well to be fair Though Bahamut orchestrated this farce to go the way it did Somnus says "When I ascended the throne. I knew it could not belong to someone that is tainted."
Meaning that if you watched the anime it seems clear Somnus didn't know shit about full extent of Ardyn's condition until he tried to kill him. Meaning that if not for the Star Scourge Somnus would have succeeded in killing him outright. The only person who knew the truth the Oracle who died trying to save Ardyn, it was easy to trick the people into thinking Somnus was chosen. Especially with the little show that was put on.
And what did Bahamut promise for Ardyn's trouble. His revenge, but not before he finally died a pariah, no one to ever know the truth of his legacy and forever hated as the harbinger of doom. The worst part it didn't matter if he resisted or not, either way he'd lose and the gods will would be sated. WHY COULDN'T DAWN OF THE FUTURE BE PUT IN THE GAME! Come on Square!
I WANT TO PUT THE SCREWS TO SOMNUS AND THAT FUCKING CHEEP DRAGONKIN KNOCKOFF!
For the greater good.
@@DarthAlphaTheGreat Get that Tou commie Shit outta here!
The way he said "Until you stole it from me. You ripped it from my arms!" hit me emotionally.
Somnus begs for Ardyn's understanding, but he never once tried to empathize with his brother. He tried to kill Ardyn, accidentally murdering the Oracle, stole his throne and sentenced him to millennia of darkness and suffering... and Somnus thinks HE'S the victim here?! He got everything and never paid for his crimes. He built a nation and a myth out of blood, lies and got to rest in peace.
Somnus was a pawn much like Ardyn was to the gods.
@@dantecrailman8861 But did Somnus realize that?
@@Aqua311 Yes and no, Somnus knew that the gods had plans for Ardyn but being the king wasn't one of them until Aera revealed it to him.
Somnus The Pawn Of The Real Monster Bahamut
I love how Ardyn says "Let the game begin", and Somnus replies with "This is no beginning - only the end." just like how when Ardyn said that to Noctis, he replied with "No. Now they end."
Ned Stark reference
@@copyninja8756
Yep. That was a missed opportunity.
Somnus justified his greed and envy with saving their "people". He truly commited treason, killing both his brother and The Oracle. Somnus is the true monster. It's a pity we didn't get Ardyn corrupting Somnus to a point of no return. That would be satisfying.
Doesn't the Mystic boss in the royal edition part of main game count? Ardyn corrupts him as the pen-ultimate boss.
@@pedroxruz6032 he actually asks Noctis to "Free his brother from his curse"
clearly this fight with Ardyn made Somnus realise just how much he f**ked up... still; screw Somnus!!
@@deinonychus1948 What About Bahamut
Learning all this now after playing makes me hella satisfied that his tomb was wrecked lol serves him right
Exactly! Turn hin into a being left in darkness and ripped of the closure of death, just what had been done to Ardyn, but as well degrading him into some unrecognisable monster. A form fitting to his choices.
This is like an opposite version of the Dante vs Fruit powered Urizen .
Except Ardyn wanted to kill Somnus and Dante wanted to stop him.
@@carrotpl nah they fought to the death… v interfered and became Vergil
Top ten most satisfying beat downs
In the end, even Somnus was a victim of fate... The astrals are the true villans of the story.
Chase Langlands if you look at it in a way, the entire line of lucis including Ardyn, the oracles and humanity themselves are nothing but pawn in their chessboard like cannon fodder.
Wasn't the Meteor of the Six that brought the Starscourge to Eos, along with the Astrals? It makes it look like both Scourge and Astrals were sealed away together...
The gods weren't stopped by Noctis, so it seems they're free and there's nothing we can do about it.
Just as how gods should be. Shaping the world as they want and see fit.
@@Eckskalibur When has a god ever truly care? Just look around you. Then again god might just be a figment of our imagination. Born from the lonely heart of man.
Also what does emotions and thought worth in this world? The world only answer through force.
This is what makes FFXV great! We have two characters: Noctis and Ardyn. Both can be the Hero of the story or the villain. It changes the way we view things when we play the game again.
I always Consider them the *Sora & Xehanort* of this Series. They share many similarities.
@@soralight_x Well, except Xehanort didn't went through crap like Ardyn did. Not to mention his (Xehanort's) actions aren't done out of vengeance and hate, but out of obsession for knowledge and power. So, Ardyn's actions are more justified than Xehanort's. P.S: this is my personal opinion and it is not a fact. I'm not trying to start a fight or something.
@@soralight_x more like eraqus and xehanort, even they played chess in their childhoods
@@jorgemathiasbenitezsaldiva8131 Well, Eraqus & Xehanort are also considered the Sora & Riku of their Time.
In fact they've been Considered the Sora & Riku even before FFXV came out.
@@soralight_x yes, and now with this new verum rex, I wonder of the plot could be
5:09 - “Lies, Fairytales, and Fallacies - ALL OF IT!”
Not sure why, but this line stands out to me. A part of me wants to use it in general conversation someday.
I completely agree and side with Ardyn on this. Nothing worse than the "light" pretending to be good and the righteous one while truthfully being downright evil the whole time. In FFXV, the Lucius Caelum line is Chaotic Good, while Ardyn is Lawful Evil.
Not really considering ardyn wants to destroy the whole world purely out of spite.
Dylan Palton well the entire world was literally against him from the start... the gods betrayed him, his family betrayed him, history forgot him, and to top it off by the start of FF15 everyone hated him regardless... from a philosophical point, why shouldn’t he tear the world asunder since it doesn’t matter one way or another to him... what I’m trying to say is that from his point of view it is justified but it is also justified to stop it him in essence no one here can be faulted except for Somnus and the gods (and maybe aera or whatever her name was)
If Ardyn was a Heroic Spirit he’d be an *Avenger.* Somnus would be either a *Saber or Archer.*
Sora Light *I’m totally gonna write about that.*
Specifically Ardyn.
Uhmmm... No, the Lucis Caelum line is simply Law, and Ardyn is simply Chaos.
Bahamut - YHVH
Ardyn - Lucifer
Somnus - Metatron/Merkabah
Noctis - Protagonist
I feel really sorry for Ardyn as a character. He's a villain, yeah, and he causes a lot of pain and destruction on his quest. But I honestly can't even hate him for it. As human beings, we can't even imagine what it would be like to be subjected to 2,000 years of torment, and after being betrayed by those close to us, no less. I don't think you could expect a person to come out of that and NOT be as bitter and hateful as Ardyn. The poor guy deserved a rest. There's only so much a person can take before they break, and he far-exceeded that point, I'm sure.
As a side note, I really love how Ardyn and Somnus have this heartbreaking conversation while they're wailing on each other. I feel like it humanizes them --- reminds us at the end of the day, they're still brothers and part reason Ardyn is so hurt and embittered is BECAUSE of that fact. It's the people we love the most who have the power to hurt us the most, and this battle really shows what a rich and complicated history they have together.
This ^. Something that really hit me was Verstael remarking how surprised he'd be if Ardyn hadn't lost all sense of time. Imagine not being able to tell the difference between 7 months and 7 seconds. Solitary confinement for 2000 years would screw anyone up.
"Just envious" >>>> exactly what led to all of these mishaps dude...
“Just envious, *PERHAPS* ”
@@biorobot2 Cause Of Freaking BAHAMUT
Ardyn and Somnus story has me partially think of Cain and Abel, when Cain became jealous of his sibling and chose to kill him for that reason. If only the writers had Ardyn try to tell his story to the world of what Somnus did while also fulfilling his predestined fate, I think that would be interesting to see how other characters would react of knowing the truth.
Yeah. They also remind me of Romulus and Remus
RareEnigma™ nah,they dont know,everyone of them include noctis,luna and co die as a blind puppet,only ardyn knew truth that the gods use them for their own selfish reason.
hisyam amiruddin I have a feeling that Noctis knew he was being manipulated by the time the game ended. He simply pushed on to save his people. I don't recall him being happy at any point when the gods show up after he comes back. And he didn't try to resist the fate given to him, so I think that Bahamut gave him the same talk he gave Ardyn. At that point, it's just a matter of putting the pieces together.
@@thatamericannarrator8247 by the end, after Ardyn inquires about whether he's going to be "Erased from history once again" Noctis straight up says "This time, you can finally rest in peace"
Noctis and Ardyn were both screwed over by Bahamut, but in the end; Ardyn couldn't repent... as he'd lost too much, and Noctis couldn't stop his crusade to console Ardyn and try to make peace with him because the world needed him to stop Ardyn and Ardyn was beyond saving
@@garlandgarrison3739same here.
It's a sick fight. Two brothers united after about 2000 years, fighting and having an argument.
BaccaratLab It's like Dante vs Vergil, but more fucked. I mean, at least the Sparda twins kinda fixed their relationship.What these two have is worst than war
BaccaratLab I wonder how Ardyn felt when he fought Noct?
@@soralight_x Part of the hate or spite that Ardyn held towards Noct is because he, to some extent, looks like a younger Somnus.
4:18 The bastard even stole Squall's Blasting Zone Limit Break!
Yeah, enix is losing ideas
Lol
It looks more like 1 of Noct’s attacks.
FFXV still is shit compared to ffvii
@@Killer_Kris7 Out of Curiosity, why bring out FFVII?
First i thought ardyn is evil villain. Now, i think he could be great anti hero.
he is very tragic villain, but he is not anti-hero.
There is nothing noble in his actions, he wants to destroy the world to have revenge on all that wronged him humans and gods
Not an anti hero. More like a tragic villain. Sure, he suffered greatly and it may seem like his actions are justified, but they include harming innocents that had nothing to do with his imprisonment and torture. So his actions cannot be justified because he became just like the monster Somnus was in the past.
Poor Ardyn. 😥 He’s been resisting his fate for about 2 Millenia until finally succumbing to it. He wasn’t even allowed to die. He honestly would’ve preferred to die along with his love when Somnus killed her.
It is heavily inplied on the Main Story that Ardyn didn't start out being evil & driven. In the Pocket Edition during Noct's Last Stand with Ardyn he even states that Ardyn was meant to be a Kind & Noble King.
You know when ardyn was released from his prison, he didnt want to kill nor hurt anyone. But the fucking kingsglaive attacked and tried to kill him anyway. So really, everything was lucis, the caelum and the astrals' fault.
I love the BGM here so much, Somnus and Ardyn's melodies are intertwined, Yoko Shimomura is definitely the god.
As I keep watching bits of the episodes and the main story, I start to really understand ardyn, like his intent and what he wanted, why he did what he did, and why he was fulfilling fate, he’s not a villain to me, he’s just a man with nothing left to loose in life, it was all stolen from him
0:21 Can you please summon my brother
Can you please summon my brother
Can you please summon my brother
Can you please summon my brother
Can you please summon my brother
No
Ouchy ouch
Oh shit he's dead
Regis got ptsd now
@@PuddinJohn Yeah lol, his reaction to Arydn entering his throne room to speak says it all 😆
Somnus rocking them heels like a huge, metal drag queen.
Reminds me of Hisoka from Hunter x Hunter lol
Lol men initially wore heels then woman ended up wearing them
Now i realized Raiden in MGRRevengeance wore heels too.
GrosS
FF XV maybe an flawed game but you gotta admit,it got some nice OST.
This OST was so emotional. 😭
Somnus was truly a terrible brother and a hater. Literally destroyed his brother's life, killed his fiancée, and to add insult to injury forced him to go by another name and erase him from existence and he's playing surprised Pikachu he has all that hatred and pent up immense power.
All Because Bahamut Ordered Somnus To
It’s because he knew what his brother would become. The gods consider themselves pure righteous the moment Arden removed the starscourge from people the gods saw as tainted and favored somnus. The gods told somnus what to do and like he said at the end “our line has done everything in our power to protect our people. Just as the gods bade I was merely for filling my calling” what happened to Arden was his own fault and somnus did what he was told to do.
@@hollandjimenez6592 What? Since when is something Arden get it's his own fault? Did we see the same game? Arden basically someone who chosen and did his duty from the God properly to save the world from the plague in the past by using the power the God give him. Arden even sacrifice himself to be the plague vessel so the world are saved from the scourge. Also no, the plague is not the reason for him turn evil, but Somnus betrayal and by the destiny the God made for him. Arden as we know is the first chosen king by the God, Somnus never was. But because he hear the answer accidentally from the Aera (Arden Fiance, and the Oracle at that time) person who will be chosen by the King is Arden. Somnus start making an obnoxious plan to make himself a king instead and try to shut Aera, but his plan somehow become easier because Arden accidentally show his scourge power because of the rage he made after Aera dead in the hand of Somnus, make Arden get jailed instead and erase from history. Also Arden, even after he gets free from the prison by Nilfheim Empire, he still has a patience and doesn't want to did revenge to royal blood at first and still have some reedem quality for not doing insane to destroy the world even after that very long exile. Until... The Lucis Empire, Destiny and a trauma force him to become one, especially when the God Bahamut start talking about some bullshit that this is his destiny in the front of him, like this is his duty to be a lord of darkness that who will bring the world eternal night until the second chosen King appear to kill him! That when he start losing his shit and become the irredeemable monster we knew in the game.
Arden is someone who was born purposely to be sacrificial vessel and to be destroyed to safe the world from starscourge plague.
@@Astralreaper7955 i didnt see this in game where u read that
@@hollandjimenez6592 what was his fault tho?(ardyn)
Ifrit is a badass summon
Sameer H Alhamid Ifrit casts Hellfire 5:59
It's funny seeing Ardyn fighting a giant knight, I bet from far away it would look like a giant knight trying to swat a fly.
When the Villain actually has more good and justified intentions than the supposed Gods of the Universe. That is Arydn and that is the terrible truth of the Final Fantasy universe. Throw everyrhing out the window because those you fought to reinstate their rule, were the ones that were truly meant to be dethroned for the greater good.
To be fair, villains tend to have more good and justified intentions than the supposed God of _our_ Universe... When it comes down to it, the big-wigs always suck. Everything is always just about oppressing the little guy who's already a victim anyway.
Honestly, the astrals are the real villains here. What they did to Ardyn is unforgivable which in turn set all the events in motion.
Ardyn would have been a great protagonist than noctis. Its about time final fantasy introduce its firts anti hero protagonist
With the 10 years of production they coulve made
- FFXV-1: The First King
- FFXV-2: The Last King
DLC:
1. The Story of the Sohlheim (before the era of Somnus and Ardyn)
2. Aranea
3. Kinglaisve as a game dlc instead of movie -Nyx
4. Lunafreya
5. Regis
7. Noctis' bros
8. Happy ending DLC
I hope the next final fantasy has it where the villain is the protagonist
Ardyn is a villain in all it‘s form. He‘s fallen from grace and this makes him so great!
@@NMEdiary Technicly speaking he is doing everything the gods wanted to the end.
I want a final fantasy game like that
This was the most hilarious boss fight ever Ardyn trash talking his scared little brother 😂😂
Ardyn shouldave been the protagonist from the start dude.
As much as I love the original XV, I must agree.
He is. And the true villain is Bahamut
Ardyn is the Xehanort of this game while Bahamut is the Master of Masters.
I find him way more interesting than Noctis lol
No, Ardyn definitely did awful things. A protagonist he is not. Just like Sephiroth
When the antagonist is really the protagonist.
2:55 omg the music
The remixes of Somnus from Episode Ardyn and Final Fantssy Theme from Episode Ignis are the best. 👌
Versus 13 music
ITS SUPERIOR MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Fact Ardyn is Capable of Fighting Giant Somnus makes him as powerful as Diamond Weapon!
@@soralight_x ardyn was so powerfull that the only ones or thing able to beat him not even bahamut with the gods , was all the knight of the rounds with noctis with the ring and 10 years off charging power CRAZY!!!!!
I was really expecting to beat the shit out of Somnus in his human form, but i guess this is not bad.
When you got one mistake in your mathematics test and you thought you got the highest score but someone got a perfect score
Me: "Oh here I thought I was the blessed one, but it was you all along"
More like your best friend cheating the test and somehow the whole school believe that your friend isn't cheated and then you want rebel against the school but the school knows that your friend's cheating
Somnus: I ask not for your forgiveness, but I do ask for your understanding.
Ardyn: Understand the bottom of my boot. *destroys entire Kingdom and ends their lineage*
“Fate is a lie that is told by the gods” is a good representation of ffxv
4:26 EX-CALIBURRRRRR!
Saber is waifu ❤️
@@light-4291 Baber*
Seems like a Balmung for me.
That looks like Noct’s *Royal Cleave*
Sommnus was doing his part like the gods said but he definitely enjoying it he showed no regret and even sounded happy when killing that girl
He taunts you and hates on you for the whole fight but at the end he goes I was jealous but then said he was doing what he had too. Its hard to tell if he was evil, good, neutral or used by Bahamut
He was young and very jealous of him, and Bahamut used that to manipulate him. But I think he kinda regretted afterwards, but it was too late.
Somnus: Please brother, return to the darkness whence you came.
Ansem: I feel a disturbance in the force
God damn i just love the finishing blow Ardyn does
I don’t see Somnus as a villain. I see him as a poor misguided tool to be used by the gods bidding. He was tricked into doing what he did so the Bahamut’s plan can go into fruition.
“until you stole it from me, you ripped it from my arms..”
Still so salty we didn't get the lunafreya dlc where we could actually gang up againdt bahumet and get a satisfactory ending. Fuck the novel I wanna see it visually in the game like we were supposed too, I feel so robbed.
Somnus: "I dare not ask your forgiveness, but I do ask your understanding".
Yeah, not In a million years. U still is the most vile person in the entire FF series.
I love Ardyn and so glad he got his retribution on Somnus. FFXV lacked this episode so much - I mean.. this should have simply been FFXV and expanded into a more detailed story arc.
he came with "brother" and ends with the same word
It sucks that FFVX's True Ending is locked behind an expensive novel.
Sommnus is the very definition of an S.O.B.
Oh hey, it's the dude from the Audi R8 Star of Lucis commercial.
Both Somnus and Ardyn did terrible things, and Somnus could technically be counted as an antagonist, but I like to believe that the real big bad villain of FFXV is Bahamut. Somnus and Ardyn were victims. Their fates weren’t exactly their own :<
Also, (based on how I understand the events that happened), FFXV is basically just an entertainment/puppet show for bahamut ://
With the whole “everything in this world is pre-ordained.”
Somnus is so evil.....I feel so bad for ardyn. He had to kill his own brother!
imagine watching this without the soundtrack :o
4:19 me when I get the storm ruler in demon souls
I feel like the astral gods are basically Square Enix trying to set up the FFXV story by telling Somnus and Ardyn what to do.
Square Enix:
*Ardyn is blessed and should be king*
*Somnus is commanded to kill Ardyn and become king instead*
*Ardyn is bad guy and should be spreading darkness*
So cool this fight !
I really wished Ardyn would have had the pleasure of following through with His vengeance. To eradicate all of Somnus descendants, to utterly destroy the kingdom of Lucis and forcing his brother to watch as everything he and his descendants built getting turned to ash, thus ruining the gods' o so grand design. No kidding I was really rooting for this dude.
As an anti-monarchist atheist, yeah, I can definitely sympathize with Ardyn's more personal goals... That said, I don't agree with the whole turning-everyone-all-over-the-world-into-deamons-and-ushering-in-an-endless-night part. Like, I understand that he wanted to make his brother and the gods pay, but most of Ardyn's victims were innocents who had, like, nothing to do with their conflict.
@@GrahamChapman to be honest, Ardyn had been screwed over SO many times that he cared very little about "small" things like that, he was a good man, initially horrified that he lost the ability to cure the Starscourge in exchange for the ability to infect others with it... it was only after he learned that he truely was meant to be king that he started to snap... and after Bahamut essentially forced him to be the bad guy, what HE wanted didn't really matter anymore... yes he killed those undeserving of his wrath but then again, so did the so-called Founder King
@@GrahamChapman Agreed! Honestly I hate the Dawn of the Future because the monarchies were a big part of why the world got so screwed up. Ardyn's my favorite character along with Verstael (yeah he's immoral, but he also kills and enslaves freaking gods).
Ardyn deserves his own games
Ifrit`s Hellfire
Me: Team Ifrit! Love it! Replaying the moment the word Hellfire appears and he raises his hand in flame.
1:30 me walking into my brothers room at 4am
You know, Ardyn is not an totally maniac villain. With me, he is just simply a man who seek what should have belonged to him, and vengeance for the girl he love most. The true purpose of Ardyn is not “World Destruction”; but to end Lucis bloodline, a mere pawn of the god. But what will happen if Somnus and Ardyn join forces, rule together; will that make the future changes? Ardyn can see truth in everything and everyone, he can control darkness and evil in him and can balanced it .He will guide mankind into the age that human is no longer a pawn to the god. He will change the whole Lucis and maybe become the guider of Lucis. But so shame for a bright future...
The only thing Ardyn wanted was justice
A true FINAL FANTASY. Becuase its endings were left to the fans fantasies 😢😢😢
unless you buy the novellization of the canceled dlc i guess lol
Noooo😂
"Can you please summon my brother"
NO ;-):-P
"Can you please summon my brother?"
Oh shit is dead
*_I'm here brother_*
Hello there, i'm not going to kill you, you can trust me
He did Ardyn so dirty, I don't even think he's really a bad guy.
Ardyn feels like a bloodborne character.
The background muscis tho... transfers from ardyn's theme to somnus 2:16 to 2:31
i played this game before and forgot it exist till i saw this video.
This battle is way better than the Leviathan and adamantoise
It really does sound like "Zelda's lullaby" around 4:37 and onward.
In this game your where neither good nor bad simply a pawn for the cowardly gods above. Who felt that curing the star scourge was beneath them. So the left it as it was until it became a mild annoyance to them. So they tricked us lowly mortals into a game that we knew not we were apart of.
And Ardyn, well he was a pawn that would not be controlled by others will. So he did what only he could do, and strengthen the scourge. He infected many spreading the deamon curse far and wide, even finding the long banished infernion frozen in a deep sleep. He awakens the god and forced him under his thrall, by infecting it too. Yet this was not enough to force the rest of the pantheon onto the board. He had to go further, but first he had to confront the result of his suffering. The kingdom of his brother. He fought and killed on in his wake till he faced his brother. Even he fell before his wrath, and on his knees he pleaded understanding all while justifying his own evil against his Ardyn . "It wasn't my fault, it was the will of the gods calling" before vanishing with hollow words of his wishes of repose for his ardyn.
The gods descend but for a moment only to laugh at Ardyn pain. "This my will", the will of behamot your destiny is to die by the kings hands to free the world of your curse". "Why would you need us mortals if your so powerfu"l cried Ardyn surely you had the power to destroy the scourge long before me.
Well folks it was a simple answer and not one you likely enjoy.
It is beneath us to interfere with the matter of mortals. It is the gods who shape your destiny and life you have no right to question our choices.
From that the answer was clear for Ardyn. They could have saved millions of lives but choose instead to allow this mess to be cleaned up my men alone.
So Ardyn rejected his fate and turned his blade against Behamot. Angered he summons the spirit of Ardyn lover and forces her to torture Ardyn until he submits. Eventually behamot losses interest and sends him back to his tomb.
Ardyn filled with hate and wrath exits his cave vowing to destroy the world to break the game board if it ment destroying the gods themselves.
His final acts laid bare over the next decade or so.
Wars and strife in constant waves, the spread of beasts and deamons across the land, and his greatest work the manipulation of a Empire to build weapons in his image. "His god killers" who would pull the gods from the heavens and smite them.
They are like the fal'cies of ffxiii, and bahamut is like bhunivelze
1:04 is he dead? 😂😂😂
nah he aiete XD
Noctis still alive in his balls too bad
The storyline of FF15 is one of the best out of any FF that most people dont even know the half of because they tried to monetize every single aspect of the game so heavily. Had to watch kingsguard and the shitty 4 episode anime they put out just to see the introduction of the game smh 🤦♂️
I wouldn't really say it was them trying to monotize it, rather working with what they had. Yiu gotta remember, Tabata had all of 3 years to develop most of xv from the ground up, so they had to turn to other media to flesh things out. Same with adding the dlc later.
Sorry I'm usually team hero but gotta side with ardyn on this one y'all screwed him over and the gods as well soooooooo he right to kill his family not the noct but his brother understanding my ass I would have slap him around some more
Really well-made fights and plot. It's a shame the rest of these episodes and the alternative ending will continue just as a novel. At least, we do get to see it come to life before they move on to another FF I guess
So Regis had alzheimer...
He can't remember Ardyn in Kingslave
Too many stomps he took.his brain must be suffered.
Perhaps, or when he gained consciousness the gods spoke with him and told Regis of what would happen and he just played his part.
He’s in disguise thru this entire dlc. Only the player sees him as he is. Watch the intro to the dlc and you’ll see how everyone else sees him
Ardyn can consume anyone's soul and can mimic their memory and their appearance. Thanks for that plaque
The game looks good but the dialogue started to feel awkward when Somnus began to have this lousy pity party for himself...
Sooo the gods told Somnus to set Ardyn up??? S e r i o u s l y?
I think the implication is that only Bahamut, Aera, and the five gods below Bahamut knew. Somnus and Ardyn were manipulated.
That American Narrator I honestly wish they kept versus xiii because XV was literally “Bahamut screws everyone over and all the Lucian powers get wiped away.” Ardyn just wants his revenge. Everyone “wins” but everyone really just dies even the last Oracle
Saiyaku We honestly don't know what would've happened in VS XIII, so it might have been the same even there
That American Narrator True, I just wish they had enough time to make it as flashy and different as it were in the trailers.
Saiyaku I haven't really seen the VS XIII trailers (I was nine at the time and just never thought of looking them up,) but I can agree that it could have been a lot more flashy and fast paced. Then again, as someone with bad eyesight, perhaps I should consider this a blessing haha
Ardyn has such Loki in "Thor the dark world" vibes here 😂
If they made the true ending to FFXV,where Ardyn is the ally to everyone. Do they defeat Bahamut
Yep, after Noctis gave the Ring of Lucis and the Kings allowing Ardyn to don it, but not after Bahamut casted Teraflare, he managed to destroy him from the Beyond at the cost of his life.
Ardyn transformed into a daemon, and after lamenting his brother had truly become the monster he had made him out to be, Somnus attacked him alongside his sworn shield Gilgamesh. Ardyn sought confirmation on the gods' choice from the Crystal, but was thrown back as the Stone rejected him as unworthy.
Ardyn was one of the baddest villians made in these games.
If Ardyn just went after the people that was responsible for what happened to him I would have 100% took his side.
That's the thing. There already dead or gods. So yeah. Options limited.
They could have given Ifrit a more cinematic Hellfire...a shame.
Idunno, the hellfire we got was pretty hype.
Nah that square enix budget was looking dry af at this point.
Personally, I think they made Somnus too big. I think the fight would have been alot more fun if he was about the size he was when you fought him as Noctis in the Royal Edition content. With Somnus being this big, I actually found it pretty hard to build up a combo because I can't see what he's doing. I also somehow found difficulty just hitting him. So yeah, I didn't have as much fun with this boss as I would have liked, and I think he's easily overshadowed by the fight with Regis.
Why does Somnus look like a Fire emblem character
They basically continued the ending in a novel because the director quit. Square Enix just wouldn't let their guys take a break.
The song at the end reminds me of Struggle’s End in kingsglaive
Only two bosses? Wasn't in thd trailers a fight against the rogue amd the fierce and ifrit?
@DeadMemes NeedToStayDead well ok
You actually fight them a few times
Ardyn knows the truth the gods are the real enemy a shame no one understands ardyns the real hero here
Ardyn is the real hero
Oh my god, Somnus is massive.
It's his armor,which is massive.as you can see,he is smaller than a midget
Angelique Cronqvist yeah, I hadn't watched that far yet.
Have you watched the Movie FFXV Kingsglaive?
The soundtrack what it called on Spotify?!
Its not on Spotify None of EP Adyrn OST was released
Noctis me senpai