I live in Nevada at around 4500ft. I fill the tank with fresh E10 and 2oz of Stabil. I've used it on lawn equipment for years and last year the bike. It started right up in mid March, unheated garage. Got it about empty this year to accommodate some appearance work.
You can just use a fuel stabilizer; I've been doing this for over 20 years on my motorcycles and lawn equipment with no problems. Also keep the batteries on a trickle charge to make them last twice as long.
Hi John. Yes in some place it is limited especially in the far North of Scotland but I used to live in the Highlands of Scotland some 13 years ago. The winters could be challenging then ( a bit better now though) but there were still some lovely days between December and March that were great for ride outs👍
Helpful video! Novice here, think we're mainly on E5 over here in Ireland, but the weather has rapidly dropped in temperature over this past week! If I take the bike out (a Bullet as well) for a couple hours each weekend, should I be fine? Or should I consider draining the tank to as little fuel as possible and fuel up when going out on trips? 🤔 Unfortunately I have nowhere indoors to store it, so it's just under a cover.
You wan’t be E5 for long. The meddling bastards in the EU will insist on you changing to E10 before long. These things, like vacuum cleaner power are not up for discussion.
I've never had any problems with fuel going off over winter. Some people might, and others might imagine they have. Plenty of ways to deal with it these days.
Hi Jack, I have a Bud Ekins triumph t120, I live in a log cabin which I want to put my bike in for winter, what is the safest way? Do I need to empty the tank
Hi Michael sorry about the late reply. If the bike were in an outbuilding I would fill the tank with a super unleaded low ethanol petrol. If you are bringing it indoors for safety I would drain the tank 👍
High octane fuel just prevents knocking due to a reduced risk of pressure induced combustion. Even though E10 is guaranteed only three months it sits in the tanks of the gas station far longer. Filling up your tank to the brim should minimize the amount of oxygen and I reckon it would easily survive a winter without touching it.
What about the use of a fuel stabiliser to prevent degradation? I usually add this to a full tank for the Winter and have had no problems so far (touch wood!)
Hi Paul. yes i have heard of the fuel stabiliser however it is something I did not consider due to many mixed feedback I have seen. At the moment at least high octane fuel or E5 seems the way to go on the the last tank fuel up before lay up. Especially if you are not in the cold Scandi countries that have winters of less than 6 months.
Live in southern UK so no extreme cold! I have filled tank with E5 but still added fuel stabiliser to prevent ethanol degradation and run the engine to ensure it's in the system.
@@JackBonhamMotorcycles I can see why you are concerned. However, higher octane does not reduce the ethanol. So that means we have to either a) Use our bikes b) Eliminate the ethanol c) Drain our fuel systems or d) Add something like B3C Ethanol Shield Fuel Stabiliser (£7.98 Tool Station). Now who has tried the latter?
Putting high octane fuel in an engine designed for normal octane levels won't damage it. The worst result of putting higher octane in an engine designed for normal octane is spending more money.
Great video yet I’m not totally convinced that Supreme® and premium fuels like that will have 5% or less ethanol. My understanding is that in the UK this varies by region and you may end up with 5% ethanol even though you didn’t want it. However, what I will do at some time is make a tank of ethanol free petrol and see how that goes. So if you hear that a motorcyclist has set his house on fire in the near future, that might be me.
Thank you Trevor. Some fuels have no ethanol, it depends on brand , its more expensive but worth it if you may lay the bike up for a few months. 👍 PS Don't burn the house down
It’s not the octane that is the problem, its the fact that the lovely people in the EU insist that all EU petrol will have at least 10% (Directive 2009/28/EC of the European Parliament) bioethanol by the end of 2020. These same meddling cockwombles have decreed (don’t you just love how they asked you?) that by 2030 we will have 20% bioethanol in our fuel. So be pleased that we’ll now be chopping down trees to burn in power stations and planting crops to turn into ethanol, requiring huge amounts energy for the processing. This is called “Green” and it’s obviously very good for the environment, obviously.
@@Trevor_Austin Hi Trevor ! You sound quite learned on such things. Thanks for taking time to explain things. It does seem to me that the world is definitely moving to electrification and it is unstoppable. For the next generation and subsequent generations, BEV vehicles and bikes 🏍 will be the norm. But not the ones caught in the transition.
I live in Nevada at around 4500ft. I fill the tank with fresh E10 and 2oz of Stabil. I've used it on lawn equipment for years and last year the bike. It started right up in mid March, unheated garage. Got it about empty this year to accommodate some appearance work.
You can just use a fuel stabilizer; I've been doing this for over 20 years on my motorcycles and lawn equipment with no problems. Also keep the batteries on a trickle charge to make them last twice as long.
Tnx you gentleman Jack for this video. Nice scenery. Is winter riding nearly impossible in some parts of UK 🇬🇧 in the winter ?
Hi John. Yes in some place it is limited especially in the far North of Scotland but I used to live in the Highlands of Scotland some 13 years ago. The winters could be challenging then ( a bit better now though) but there were still some lovely days between December and March that were great for ride outs👍
Hi Jack,
A great upload. Thank you for your common sense advice.
Thank you Grant 👍
Helpful video! Novice here, think we're mainly on E5 over here in Ireland, but the weather has rapidly dropped in temperature over this past week! If I take the bike out (a Bullet as well) for a couple hours each weekend, should I be fine? Or should I consider draining the tank to as little fuel as possible and fuel up when going out on trips? 🤔 Unfortunately I have nowhere indoors to store it, so it's just under a cover.
Hi. Yes you should be perfectly fine with E5 especially while like me you will still run the bullet 👍
You wan’t be E5 for long. The meddling bastards in the EU will insist on you changing to E10 before long. These things, like vacuum cleaner power are not up for discussion.
I've never had any problems with fuel going off over winter. Some people might, and others might imagine they have. Plenty of ways to deal with it these days.
Hi Jack, I have a Bud Ekins triumph t120, I live in a log cabin which I want to put my bike in for winter, what is the safest way? Do I need to empty the tank
Hi Michael sorry about the late reply. If the bike were in an outbuilding I would fill the tank with a super unleaded low ethanol petrol. If you are bringing it indoors for safety I would drain the tank 👍
High octane fuel just prevents knocking due to a reduced risk of pressure induced combustion. Even though E10 is guaranteed only three months it sits in the tanks of the gas station far longer. Filling up your tank to the brim should minimize the amount of oxygen and I reckon it would easily survive a winter without touching it.
What about the use of a fuel stabiliser to prevent degradation? I usually add this to a full tank for the Winter and have had no problems so far (touch wood!)
Hi Paul. yes i have heard of the fuel stabiliser however it is something I did not consider due to many mixed feedback I have seen. At the moment at least high octane fuel or E5 seems the way to go on the the last tank fuel up before lay up. Especially if you are not in the cold Scandi countries that have winters of less than 6 months.
Live in southern UK so no extreme cold! I have filled tank with E5 but still added fuel stabiliser to prevent ethanol degradation and run the engine to ensure it's in the system.
@@JackBonhamMotorcycles I can see why you are concerned. However, higher octane does not reduce the ethanol. So that means we have to either a) Use our bikes b) Eliminate the ethanol c) Drain our fuel systems or d) Add something like B3C Ethanol Shield Fuel Stabiliser (£7.98 Tool Station). Now who has tried the latter?
Also how do you know you've had no issue. Unless you've seen inside your tank?
no e5 fuel here in Bulgaria, or fuel stabilizer, so its drain the tank and carbs for me!!
Putting high octane fuel in an engine designed for normal octane levels won't damage it. The worst result of putting higher octane in an engine designed for normal octane is spending more money.
Great video yet I’m not totally convinced that Supreme® and premium fuels like that will have 5% or less ethanol. My understanding is that in the UK this varies by region and you may end up with 5% ethanol even though you didn’t want it. However, what I will do at some time is make a tank of ethanol free petrol and see how that goes. So if you hear that a motorcyclist has set his house on fire in the near future, that might be me.
Thank you Trevor. Some fuels have no ethanol, it depends on brand , its more expensive but worth it if you may lay the bike up for a few months. 👍 PS Don't burn the house down
Triumph T120 recommended fuel in NZ is 95.
Thanks John for the info. Much appreciated 👍
It’s not the octane that is the problem, its the fact that the lovely people in the EU insist that all EU petrol will have at least 10% (Directive 2009/28/EC of the European Parliament) bioethanol by the end of 2020. These same meddling cockwombles have decreed (don’t you just love how they asked you?) that by 2030 we will have 20% bioethanol in our fuel. So be pleased that we’ll now be chopping down trees to burn in power stations and planting crops to turn into ethanol, requiring huge amounts energy for the processing. This is called “Green” and it’s obviously very good for the environment, obviously.
@@Trevor_Austin Hi Trevor ! You sound quite learned on such things. Thanks for taking time to explain things. It does seem to me that the world is definitely moving to electrification and it is unstoppable. For the next generation and subsequent generations, BEV vehicles and bikes 🏍 will be the norm. But not the ones caught in the transition.
@@Trevor_Austin Agree. None of it makes any sense.