I'm very excited for this ship just as a main base for both myself and others when they come online. It has a lot of versatility and is going to be really fun to be able to load up whatever you want inside and practically do what ever content you want. I love the idea of being able to load up a prospector with extra bags in the hold or vulture (maybe????) and have a mobile storage point for your industrial needs. Or just do a quick swap for a fighter and now you have something else for your crew to do if they dont want to sit in a turret. My only concern is the missile turret in the back. It seems like the ammo count is super low especially if we cant reload missiles by ourselves. Just seems like a waste of turret space for potentially another quad size 3 turret.
You're getting a lot of solo Polaris hate, but CIG knows some people want to operate larer ships solo (I want this too). I have no doubt NPC crew/server blades will compensate for lack of human crew. CIG is big on immersion and people forget NPCs can be programmed to do a lot more than just man turrets and shoot things. The Polaris is cool as hell, I'm excited for you, and cant wait to hear more about your experience when it gets in game.
I think a part of it will be this, one we don’t have exact concrete information on the limitations of NPC crews. 2 given that this is a multiplayer game and devs will probably want to encourage players to crew these ships NPC crews will probably be dogshit compared to half decent player crews so in active combat NPC crewed ships will probably get fucked but if you’re more into PVE gameplay NPC should suffice.
@@undeadpeak I agree that they wouldn't be as good as a well coordinated human crew. I think it would be fair to tune them to be about the same as the average player, perhaps slightly below average. Humans will always have an advantage anyway: we can think ahead and proactively deal with problems rather than be reactionary like AI would tend to be. I believe they'll be able to tune this well, while maintaining the human advantage.
I too have an A2 and I have contacted CIG to cross it over. Its silly you cant trade when they are both $750 I don't want to melt A2 coz its a waste of money. Will see what they say.
The Polaris is the only ship I own. it will be my solo daily driver, and the ship in which I'll also rarely play with friends. but mostly solo + NPC and AI blades.
I’d consider if nothing else a C8X/R, Titan, or Cutter. Forget the solo argument for a moment, you could have 15-20 people ready to go day one but you won’t have a contract that will pay the expenses of running that ship around the verse. Hope I’m proven wrong but it makes sense to me to have even an Aurora or mustang alpha for when credits are tight.
@@davewills6121 I guarantee you it'll be happening from day 1. I also guarantee you the vast majority of large ships and up have been bought by solo players, and CIG are well aware of that. Besides, years of talk about NPC crew and AI blades, plus the QnA of the HH and the Polaris itself objectively proves you wrong. Don't let that keep you awake at night though.
@@davewills6121 I guarantee you it will be happening from day one. most large and up ships have been bought by solo players anyway, and CIG knows this. There's a reason why they keep going on about AI blades and NPC crews since day one. Beside, the Q&A of the HH and Polaris both objectively proves you wrong. but don't let people having fun in their favorite ships rob you of your good night sleep!
On Erkul, you can turn off all turrets and turn each on separately to see the individual DPS. That's important because not all turrets will be used on an enemy or can target one. Which means you won't be using the 11k DPS to individual turrets. So you'll need to know where it's weakest sides are both for defense and offense.
In all this solo rahrah, people seem to be neglecting two very important points. One, the server strain each Polaris will have, especially on launch when we all take ours out individually to see it. However, it does cost 750 so it would be reasonable for a solo-is-possible-in-a-highly-limited-way-with-immense-prep-and-funds to be accommodated. Server meshing is not an all powerful crutch, but neither can CIG ignore just how much they have sold ships like this. I fear we will all suffer funding premiums later down the line, hopefully they can optimize a solo'd large/capitol server/client side rendering cost. I feel this is why they are milking us so hard right now, cause this will be quite the expensive game to run, and subscription model or whatnot else will catch up quick... P.S. I cant wait for the day the Polaris launches. The server lag and drama will be unforgettable. Everyone fighting over dock space, people not giving a shit, probably F12 while exploring their Polaris while in dock not taking off while everyone is yellling at them. Global will be NUTS I tell you.
Yea so, while you might have a few points here, arguing over ports might not be one of them. Unless you purposely run to a space station "keep in mind that you'll start in a city" that's on you. In cities, we'll have private hangars by then. That means everyone can be in a hangar all at the same time if they want. With no waits. As for space stations, I'd simply remedy it by parking it close to the station and taking a smaller ship out to a pad. Nobody with common sense will stay at a station holding up a port just so they can tour their ship anyway.....That's asking to be hit by a player who said f*ck it.
Also a Polaris owner, I believe if we do have 432 SCu you will be able to haul cargo short distances in the safety of monitored space in between combat expeditions to cover the operating costs of running this. And regarding engineering, if you just want to haul cargo short distances solo, a basic pre-flight check of components for short travel distances in monitored space will suffice, the ship won't just degrade and implode because you flew from Seraphim station to Baijini point.
I see the storage more for vehicles, replacement supplies/materials/missiles, and the rest of the space is for any liberated cargo. I see the ship very much as a Privateer, able to take things out swiftly, grabbing only the most valuable materials it can fit, and zooming away.
I think the expenses to run this ship solo will be very large. You always want the right tool for the job. This ship is a great pirate flag ship and military fleet support, interdiction, fleet support, and raiding. It’s not the right tool for most missions.
What do you mean it's not the right tool for most missions lol... You literally just gave several examples on how it can be the right tool. How do you manage to say yes AND no in the same sentence??😂😅
@@durtyred86 Haha well not a good ship for box missions, really any lower level starter missions. It’s like using a sledge hammer to hammer in a thumbtack
I'll be using it solo. Having such a ship means that any money I earn in game will go towards the running of the ship. I won't be saving up for another ship. If I wanted to do a box mission, I will be parking it up, and using the ship in hanger. Same goes for bunkers, I'll be using my medivac in the hanger. It's the ship I never thought I needed, but yet it ticks all the needs I want to play the game I play now and more. Will I be able to run it effectively as a fully manned ship, no, but I'm ok with that.
Do note the torpedo damage is from S9, not the S10's it will have. So it will deal even more damage. And some of the turrets will be upscaled, from what John Crewe said (AFTER it started appearing ingame during flybys). It will pretty much be the glass cannon of the capital world, with the Idris being the main battle tank. An idris behind a Polaris, byebye Polaris. A Polaris facing an Idris with enough torps launched, byebye Idris.
I thought the same. At first. But now somehow I can imagine a life aboard to be nice. But only if server meshing and full persistence are achieved. It surely takes forever to fully equip a Polaris fully for a week or month long journey. So I'd say the thought has it's charme. But not for now.
About the ship metrics, starjump did a video where he manually measured it and he concluded that it in fact did not grow in size, it is still 165m. The 181m measure was datamined and is more likely a “safesone” box around polaris to hold other ships away from it. Of course starjump, and thus I, can be wrong, so point of this comment is to say that nothing is concrete yet.
Wait till we finally get the Banu Merchantman. Probably will be one of the most sought after capital ships in the game with how much money it will make you.
@@ShadowGirl- Will not be an easy takedown I think, will depend on how OP they decide to make torpedos, but the Banu Merchantman does come pretty well equipped to defend itself especially after the updated model with a proper hangar, not to mention players with a ship that makes as much money as the Merchantman/Privateer will make then you shouldn't have too much trouble hiring some security to protect you as well.
890 space tampon is 900 bucks? why, i would pay 400 tops for it i want to explore with polaris,basically make it my main ship to do everything on, i like the design of ships more than function and polaris was the think i wanted since they announced it. I dont even play much now days because of lack of energy so i just want to jump on,fly abit with my favourite ship and call it a day.Yes the money issue comes up where im gonna get fuel or repairs or ammo for this big ship, idk maybe i will just buy credits from players with real money so i dont have to grind endlessly
In the long run I can't see this being the "ultimate solo ship". It's simply too big to manage when the actual features start to come in and as far as A.I. that will be years after that. I think the Carrack and the Liberator will be as big as one can manage . Even those will be in the sense of being able to do different activities at a whim while bringing your different ships along, not like say combat. I think alot of people will end up melting this really large ships because nobody is going want to crew them outside of org play for the most part. Imagine getting attacked while solo with a snare of something , you will have zero chance at survival lol. I would just be weary of these large ships as a solo. The wait time alone after getting it destroyed is probably going to be session ending.... Off topic question but does anybody know if the (endeavor or odyessy, I can't remember the name) "refiner" ship that's like $150 is going to be able to buy raw materials from a base or station and resell them refined for a profit or will you have to mine the raw stuff first??
I have the Polaris but without AI companions to help you manage the ship you might as well fly the ship only in Stanton. Good luck in Pyro, without a crew where there are no laws. I can see a lot of players attacking Polaris ships. Especially if they are not fully manned. I mean you can shoot the rockets in the Polaris driver seat but it's a hit or miss if you will actually hit someone with it.
Solo and daily driving- flying are two totally different things lol... It'll be tough to daily for even a whole crew. Let alone a solo player. But a solo player will be able to take it out and handle it every once in awhile. Given we recieve blades and competent NPC's.
For me it's mostly just gonna act as a cooler carrack with a hangar big enough for my favorite ships. Pluss it might be nice for my org... only time will tell
I think this ship will be solo cargo ship, with AI maybe a solo heavily protected cargo ship and with a crew it will be a proper multi role military ship
In this size category (well, a tab bit smaller at some ~130m) I look forward to the Arrastra the most. It is not a shiny combar vessel, it might not be as good as anallrounder, and it does nothave the same amenities (no medbeds, boo), but mining and refining in one go makes my greedy soul happy, and unless they change it back, it is supposed to have an on-board garage for up to two ursa sized vehicles, so you can just put a Nursa there. With its crew listed as 2-3, it should be fairly soloable, and act as a decent mobile base. With all of its turrets being remote, here's hoping I can just blade them up.
You know that engeneering comes with 4.0, just the idea of soloing a ship like the Polaris is insane. And don't get me wrong i'm a backer of the Polaris since it's introduction. Players need to get in their minds that the crew number is not here to look pretty. Even with 3.23 you can test ingeneering in a A2, and even with this kind of ship it will impossible to solo it. And you know what, i'm glad. Don't forget SC is a mmo like game, and i hope that even to launch it you will need people. The chat is your friend in that instance, so when you will want to take out your Polaris but your friends are not there well time to new one's in the game to help you.
It can be solo'd so why are you bent out of shape about it. Its as he said as long as you are not in combat and you maintain it on ground it can be solo'd. Components are not going to degrade so fast the you have to have someone with you to maintain it at all times and if you got the funds then cost doesn't matter anyway as most players have plenty and know how to get it so its not a big deal.
for me i compared them to warships and the polaris is a small destroyer in my eyes. but now looking at it again from movies ect. This is the rossi from the expanse. brig, medical, powerful missiles, guns. one of the newer ships in the lore,
I have a CCU chain I’m trying to finish before it’s released. This will be the largest ship I go for. The hope is I can still solo it if I stay out of combat. That way it can act sort of like a mobile base for all my other goodies. If it’s too much in certain occasions, I’ll use my Connie and other ships. Plan on getting a galaxy as my in between ship.
Combat is not my thing, atleast not on this scale and at this price point. For me, I think I'm going to stick my reclaimer, its money making ability, solo and multicrew gameplay, and mix of size 3 and 4 components. Hold is currently filled with 12 16scu crates of rmc and working on more. All solo. To everyone wanting the Polaris, I hope you have as much fun as I am. Maybe I will crew a turret or be an angineer in one of your ships one day.
i got reclaimer, idk why i got it when it came out- it looked crazy i guess and whole alien vibes.I want to main polaris but i want to see everyone in different ships as well, seeing diffefent ships around is fun
@@votpavel alien, I know. Sometimes when I'm running from one side to another I think I hear something off and pull my rifle. When it gets its gold pass/rework I hope they don't change that alien feel.
The torpedo total damage will actually be much higher than 11M, because erkul computes it from size 9 torpedoes, whereas Polaris will have size 10 torps (not implemented yet ;)
The turret nerf has turned the polaris into basically just a better carrack as the carracks functionality is at present. This is basically my plan now. My polaris will replace the carrack, and I'll ccu the carrack to perseus
@@ZyvhurStudiosI gambled with the Odyssey for exploration. I figure if it doesn't pan out, I've got a really versatile capital ship that meets my needs in other ways.
from a AUEC making perspective. polaris is not so effective I think. compare to peruses, nautilus and idris. the cost of those torps is going to be really high. and i doubt its ability to soft death ships and take their cargo.
You will TECHNICALLY be able to solo large and capital ships over short, safe distances but its going to be expensive, dangerous, and extremely ineffective. Even with AI someday. Its not the point of the game. They've been pretty clear about that from the start but especially so in the past year or so
Its not really about effectiveness but capability I think the most skilled player operators will be able to solo stuff like this for non dangerous situations
@@ZyvhurStudiosAgreed, and NPCs should be able to do non combat things for the roles they are assigned. It isn't clear yet of course, but that's my hope.
I thought it was established that you couldn’t solo this ship, from my knowledge it’s been stated that the pilot will have no usable guns, you need a someone in the torpedo room to fire the torpedos and you need players to use the turrets.
I too am looking forward to blades and AI to man my Perseus but we have no clue when they will come in or how useful they will be. My point is it’s more than likely that we won’t see them in at IAE and people shouldn’t expect to man this ship alone and expect to be a one man army at the end of the year.
@@Kosty19 There is, you can already have a fully crewed ship if you want to, with full NPC gunners that will shoot at your hostile targets and ignore your friendly ones. You just need to steal an enemy NPC ship by killing the pirate (preferably a HH). Sadly these ships dont stay with you once you log out and sadly CIG has failed to make these NPC gunners available to us for the past 4-5 years, even though they said that they were doing it after the turret update 4 years ago, where they said on a show they were planning to have players being able to equip NPCs via the vehicle manager.
Its the only one you can run solo. But you can't run it solo and break even. Replenishing the S10 torps, even if you only run Xenothreat, and you kill the Idris with your first torp, will eventually stop breaking even.
This is not a ship for solo players, You may be able to fly it solo but You need crew to man the turrets and to operate stations. Its a ship for groups and orgas.
I can't wait to go roc mining with this thing. I'd run mine solo and just have it as a base of operations. Very likely scout global chat for those looking to crew up every now and then. Clearly I can't make any serious money or partake in battles without a crew, just good times pretending to be a lone warrior astronaut.
Yeah exactly I don't really see it as a good solo money maker but more of a base to transport ships and do things, basically how I use the carrack now lol
They will probably cost the same amount in UEC. Torpedos are entirely useless for almost any mission, as they eat rapidly through your profits. There are no missions in this game currently that justify using S10 torps, unless you backspace and claim your ship to avoid paying maybe, but it probably comes with a hefty insurance timer.
@@MyN0N4M3 maybe an ERT idris, but anyways I doubt you'd need the torps in such a situation, since the polaris is getting up gunned it will be able to take down an idris with just it's guns, the torps is more of an emergency use kinda thing, that or pvp use (I think the idris will be out by the time the polaris comes out)
Everyone is talking about capital ships being unsoloable, what about the defacto large solo ship, the 600i? how difficult will it be when engineering is a factor? because i was hoping i'd be able to run it as my home away from home.
I think people are too worried about engineering if you get attacked it will only add survivability if you have a crew, but for solo pilots you will always just have to run away
@ZyvhurStudios a fair assessment. I know the risks of Soloing and understand that ships can be simply too large. But I do feel like the 600i is an outlier. All of it's components are localized and accessible(pre rework) and it's turrets are remote cotrolled from the bridge. 3 size 5 M7As under pilot control and 2 size 3 shields. The 600i can meaningfully hang in combat with heavy hitters and is one itself. Given you have a good pilot that understands the 600i's weaknesses and uses it's wicked range advantage to snipe midsize ships while putting shield power in front. I've survived some wild pvp encounters and taken down a fully crewed redeemer. When components are implemented and the hull HP system is gone I think the 600i will be even tougher.
As a primarily solo player who doesn't run around with a group due to time limitations and not being able to stay in game to support a group action etc.. I no longer have any interest in any ship with more than one seat.. Engineering etc is going to make it too much hard work.
Going to be real hard to run this ship as a solo pilot, especially in any fleet engagements. I would think that the idea that you can solo it is a bit of a pipe dream, the ship is designed to spear head a fleet of ships and act as a flagship/command vessel. There may be NPCs in the future that you can have c0-pilot, man turrets, and perform engineering.. but it is unlikely they will ever perform at the level of an actual live crew... Find a good org man, this really is not a game for solo pilots, especially ones that want to fly capital ships...
I seriously doubt you can run a polaris solo... beside running cost and engeneering, the torpedoes alone need a dedicated operator. I believe the pilot has just no weapon on this ship. not even mentionning it's going to be a very slow one, so no winning by overflying anyone. as a solo player you just gonna be a very nice target for eclipses and ares or any crewed capitals ships.
Torpedoes need dedicated players on this ship. I don't even talk about the cost to run it... This ship is not made to make money, but to consume it. This is a warship to go in battle against other organization. Also, under-crewing a military ship is already not a good idea, but this one is probably the less "solo friendly" ship of the entire game. What you will do when a component will fail in combat ? When a fire start at the rear ? and when a boarding action will occure ? Forget it.
I think people are over reacting a bit about engineering, (as someone who has been testing it with only one other friend) imo it will add survivability if you have a crew but a solo player with no pilot controlled Guns will always have to runaway, engineering doesn't really change that
@@ZyvhurStudios I understand your point of view but i think otherwise, specially in combat situation when you will not be allowed to flee. Do you have tested the reclaimer as solo player ? Actually this industrial ship can be solo, but even if the salvage seat are close to the pilot one, this is already painfull, after few run it become boring to do everything solo. I prefer returning on a Vulture even if this is less efficient. So imagine on a ship like the Polaris ? This will be a pain in the a*s. Try to undercrew a redeemer or a hammerhead, you will quickly understand how this idea is bad. Now, if you absolutely want it, then take it. This is your money and you have no argument to provide other than: i want it.
Might fly mine solo ... But only when npc/Blade is implamented. But i Will be understanding That i Will lose it that day... Will be impossible to stay alive alone for long.. Daily driver? ..nhaaa.
You should be able to use torpedoes only the rest are turrets so require players. You do get a lot of torpedoe, but they only travel at 250m/s, so most ships can just outrun them at scm speed so only really viable against larger slower ships it will wreck hull C's haha
Nah, they said that the torpedos need another player in that room to properly make use of. You could proably lock on to a target but that data must be relayed to the torpedo by another player, then that player will then allow the torpedo to be loaded into the tube so that you in return can finally shoot it.
Oh gawd, the ghetto carrier. I bet you'd get at least 10-12 in there if you play a bit of tetris and enjoy living dangerously. At that point, you could use the Furies as makeshift torps if your actual ones run out. Just have the crew respawn and take a new one from the hangar.
I'm very excited for this ship just as a main base for both myself and others when they come online. It has a lot of versatility and is going to be really fun to be able to load up whatever you want inside and practically do what ever content you want. I love the idea of being able to load up a prospector with extra bags in the hold or vulture (maybe????) and have a mobile storage point for your industrial needs. Or just do a quick swap for a fighter and now you have something else for your crew to do if they dont want to sit in a turret.
My only concern is the missile turret in the back. It seems like the ammo count is super low especially if we cant reload missiles by ourselves. Just seems like a waste of turret space for potentially another quad size 3 turret.
You're getting a lot of solo Polaris hate, but CIG knows some people want to operate larer ships solo (I want this too). I have no doubt NPC crew/server blades will compensate for lack of human crew. CIG is big on immersion and people forget NPCs can be programmed to do a lot more than just man turrets and shoot things. The Polaris is cool as hell, I'm excited for you, and cant wait to hear more about your experience when it gets in game.
thank you! I'll certainly make many videos on it when it drops :)
@@ZyvhurStudios I can't wait, it's going to be awesome.
I think a part of it will be this, one we don’t have exact concrete information on the limitations of NPC crews. 2 given that this is a multiplayer game and devs will probably want to encourage players to crew these ships NPC crews will probably be dogshit compared to half decent player crews so in active combat NPC crewed ships will probably get fucked but if you’re more into PVE gameplay NPC should suffice.
@@undeadpeak I agree that they wouldn't be as good as a well coordinated human crew. I think it would be fair to tune them to be about the same as the average player, perhaps slightly below average. Humans will always have an advantage anyway: we can think ahead and proactively deal with problems rather than be reactionary like AI would tend to be. I believe they'll be able to tune this well, while maintaining the human advantage.
Just melted my A2 for the Polaris. So happy to own this amazing ship!
Congrats I'm excited for it to get added :)
I too have an A2 and I have contacted CIG to cross it over. Its silly you cant trade when they are both $750 I don't want to melt A2 coz its a waste of money.
Will see what they say.
The Polaris is the only ship I own. it will be my solo daily driver, and the ship in which I'll also rarely play with friends. but mostly solo + NPC and AI blades.
Not happening ever, not in Star Citizen anyway, probably in your dreams, although you can go make a Polaris type ship in Starfield, and solo it.
I’d consider if nothing else a C8X/R, Titan, or Cutter. Forget the solo argument for a moment, you could have 15-20 people ready to go day one but you won’t have a contract that will pay the expenses of running that ship around the verse. Hope I’m proven wrong but it makes sense to me to have even an Aurora or mustang alpha for when credits are tight.
@@davewills6121 The Polaris Q and A (parts 1 and 2) say otherwise, but okay.
@@davewills6121 I guarantee you it'll be happening from day 1. I also guarantee you the vast majority of large ships and up have been bought by solo players, and CIG are well aware of that.
Besides, years of talk about NPC crew and AI blades, plus the QnA of the HH and the Polaris itself objectively proves you wrong.
Don't let that keep you awake at night though.
@@davewills6121 I guarantee you it will be happening from day one. most large and up ships have been bought by solo players anyway, and CIG knows this. There's a reason why they keep going on about AI blades and NPC crews since day one. Beside, the Q&A of the HH and Polaris both objectively proves you wrong.
but don't let people having fun in their favorite ships rob you of your good night sleep!
On Erkul, you can turn off all turrets and turn each on separately to see the individual DPS. That's important because not all turrets will be used on an enemy or can target one. Which means you won't be using the 11k DPS to individual turrets. So you'll need to know where it's weakest sides are both for defense and offense.
In all this solo rahrah, people seem to be neglecting two very important points. One, the server strain each Polaris will have, especially on launch when we all take ours out individually to see it. However, it does cost 750 so it would be reasonable for a solo-is-possible-in-a-highly-limited-way-with-immense-prep-and-funds to be accommodated.
Server meshing is not an all powerful crutch, but neither can CIG ignore just how much they have sold ships like this. I fear we will all suffer funding premiums later down the line, hopefully they can optimize a solo'd large/capitol server/client side rendering cost. I feel this is why they are milking us so hard right now, cause this will be quite the expensive game to run, and subscription model or whatnot else will catch up quick...
P.S. I cant wait for the day the Polaris launches. The server lag and drama will be unforgettable. Everyone fighting over dock space, people not giving a shit, probably F12 while exploring their Polaris while in dock not taking off while everyone is yellling at them. Global will be NUTS I tell you.
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Exactly! it will be very interesting :)
Yea so, while you might have a few points here, arguing over ports might not be one of them. Unless you purposely run to a space station "keep in mind that you'll start in a city" that's on you. In cities, we'll have private hangars by then. That means everyone can be in a hangar all at the same time if they want. With no waits. As for space stations, I'd simply remedy it by parking it close to the station and taking a smaller ship out to a pad. Nobody with common sense will stay at a station holding up a port just so they can tour their ship anyway.....That's asking to be hit by a player who said f*ck it.
@@durtyred86 Yeah... you and me might have that common sense. Many don't give a shit about everyone else. But hey, it's just a prediction
Also a Polaris owner, I believe if we do have 432 SCu you will be able to haul cargo short distances in the safety of monitored space in between combat expeditions to cover the operating costs of running this. And regarding engineering, if you just want to haul cargo short distances solo, a basic pre-flight check of components for short travel distances in monitored space will suffice, the ship won't just degrade and implode because you flew from Seraphim station to Baijini point.
I see the storage more for vehicles, replacement supplies/materials/missiles, and the rest of the space is for any liberated cargo. I see the ship very much as a Privateer, able to take things out swiftly, grabbing only the most valuable materials it can fit, and zooming away.
I, too, am primarily a solo player. Anyone else want to band together for our larger ships?
I have a small org, we could use an extra soldier.
do you have discord?
@@skydvlfulname
No one wants to crew someone else's cap ship when they've got one in their own hangar. It's gonna be a real issue.
@@obitwizzle3766 I would love to
@@skydvlful im looking for a org to join
I think the expenses to run this ship solo will be very large. You always want the right tool for the job. This ship is a great pirate flag ship and military fleet support, interdiction, fleet support, and raiding. It’s not the right tool for most missions.
What do you mean it's not the right tool for most missions lol... You literally just gave several examples on how it can be the right tool. How do you manage to say yes AND no in the same sentence??😂😅
@@durtyred86 Haha well not a good ship for box missions, really any lower level starter missions. It’s like using a sledge hammer to hammer in a thumbtack
I'll be using it solo. Having such a ship means that any money I earn in game will go towards the running of the ship.
I won't be saving up for another ship.
If I wanted to do a box mission, I will be parking it up, and using the ship in hanger. Same goes for bunkers, I'll be using my medivac in the hanger.
It's the ship I never thought I needed, but yet it ticks all the needs I want to play the game I play now and more.
Will I be able to run it effectively as a fully manned ship, no, but I'm ok with that.
Do note the torpedo damage is from S9, not the S10's it will have. So it will deal even more damage.
And some of the turrets will be upscaled, from what John Crewe said (AFTER it started appearing ingame during flybys).
It will pretty much be the glass cannon of the capital world, with the Idris being the main battle tank.
An idris behind a Polaris, byebye Polaris. A Polaris facing an Idris with enough torps launched, byebye Idris.
Hate to say this, but it was never designed, or shall ever be a solo ship.
All ships can be flown by one play and will be able to be. NPC crew and AI will be implemented eventually.
@@SpaceDad42 "All ships can be flown by one play and will be able to be", If you can fing a CIG statement to assert that....
@@daganael Watch their videos. CIG have stated plenty of times, players can solo fly capital ships - they just wont be able to afford to do so.
No worries its all theory crafting until these ships have more filled out gameplay loops
I thought the same. At first. But now somehow I can imagine a life aboard to be nice. But only if server meshing and full persistence are achieved. It surely takes forever to fully equip a Polaris fully for a week or month long journey. So I'd say the thought has it's charme. But not for now.
About the ship metrics, starjump did a video where he manually measured it and he concluded that it in fact did not grow in size, it is still 165m. The 181m measure was datamined and is more likely a “safesone” box around polaris to hold other ships away from it. Of course starjump, and thus I, can be wrong, so point of this comment is to say that nothing is concrete yet.
Yes I noticed he still has it as 165 in fleet viewer good catch I thought he had made a mistake
Wait till we finally get the Banu Merchantman. Probably will be one of the most sought after capital ships in the game with how much money it will make you.
Yes that cargo capacity is crazy
A prime target for the privateer of capital ships, the Polaris, to attack and loot.
@@ShadowGirl- Will not be an easy takedown I think, will depend on how OP they decide to make torpedos, but the Banu Merchantman does come pretty well equipped to defend itself especially after the updated model with a proper hangar, not to mention players with a ship that makes as much money as the Merchantman/Privateer will make then you shouldn't have too much trouble hiring some security to protect you as well.
890 space tampon is 900 bucks? why, i would pay 400 tops for it
i want to explore with polaris,basically make it my main ship to do everything on, i like the design of ships more than function and polaris was the think i wanted since they announced it. I dont even play much now days because of lack of energy so i just want to jump on,fly abit with my favourite ship and call it a day.Yes the money issue comes up where im gonna get fuel or repairs or ammo for this big ship, idk maybe i will just buy credits from players with real money so i dont have to grind endlessly
I think the galaxy is a better choice for exploration in that price range you mentioned
In the long run I can't see this being the "ultimate solo ship". It's simply too big to manage when the actual features start to come in and as far as A.I. that will be years after that.
I think the Carrack and the Liberator will be as big as one can manage . Even those will be in the sense of being able to do different activities at a whim while bringing your different ships along, not like say combat.
I think alot of people will end up melting this really large ships because nobody is going want to crew them outside of org play for the most part.
Imagine getting attacked while solo with a snare of something , you will have zero chance at survival lol.
I would just be weary of these large ships as a solo. The wait time alone after getting it destroyed is probably going to be session ending....
Off topic question but does anybody know if the (endeavor or odyessy, I can't remember the name) "refiner" ship that's like $150 is going to be able to buy raw materials from a base or station and resell them refined for a profit or will you have to mine the raw stuff first??
I have the Polaris but without AI companions to help you manage the ship you might as well fly the ship only in Stanton. Good luck in Pyro, without a crew where there are no laws. I can see a lot of players attacking Polaris ships. Especially if they are not fully manned. I mean you can shoot the rockets in the Polaris driver seat but it's a hit or miss if you will actually hit someone with it.
Which missiles?
@@reesekilpatrick241 possibly the 16x s3. NOT the s10s. No weapons are confirmed for the polaris pilot however
Heard no pilot controlled weapons so that’s going to be hard to solo daily driver realistically
Solo and daily driving- flying are two totally different things lol...
It'll be tough to daily for even a whole crew. Let alone a solo player. But a solo player will be able to take it out and handle it every once in awhile. Given we recieve blades and competent NPC's.
For me it's mostly just gonna act as a cooler carrack with a hangar big enough for my favorite ships. Pluss it might be nice for my org... only time will tell
I think this ship will be solo cargo ship, with AI maybe a solo heavily protected cargo ship and with a crew it will be a proper multi role military ship
In this size category (well, a tab bit smaller at some ~130m) I look forward to the Arrastra the most. It is not a shiny combar vessel, it might not be as good as anallrounder, and it does nothave the same amenities (no medbeds, boo), but mining and refining in one go makes my greedy soul happy, and unless they change it back, it is supposed to have an on-board garage for up to two ursa sized vehicles, so you can just put a Nursa there. With its crew listed as 2-3, it should be fairly soloable, and act as a decent mobile base. With all of its turrets being remote, here's hoping I can just blade them up.
You know that engeneering comes with 4.0, just the idea of soloing a ship like the Polaris is insane.
And don't get me wrong i'm a backer of the Polaris since it's introduction.
Players need to get in their minds that the crew number is not here to look pretty. Even with 3.23 you can test ingeneering in a A2, and even with this kind of ship it will impossible to solo it.
And you know what, i'm glad. Don't forget SC is a mmo like game, and i hope that even to launch it you will need people. The chat is your friend in that instance, so when you will want to take out your Polaris but your friends are not there well time to new one's in the game to help you.
It can be solo'd so why are you bent out of shape about it. Its as he said as long as you are not in combat and you maintain it on ground it can be solo'd. Components are not going to degrade so fast the you have to have someone with you to maintain it at all times and if you got the funds then cost doesn't matter anyway as most players have plenty and know how to get it so its not a big deal.
The devs literally said that they do not want engineering to make soloing larger ships impossible.
It's also going to be very expensive to run. Let's remember that also.
for me i compared them to warships and the polaris is a small destroyer in my eyes.
but now looking at it again from movies ect. This is the rossi from the expanse.
brig, medical, powerful missiles, guns. one of the newer ships in the lore,
I have a CCU chain I’m trying to finish before it’s released. This will be the largest ship I go for. The hope is I can still solo it if I stay out of combat. That way it can act sort of like a mobile base for all my other goodies. If it’s too much in certain occasions, I’ll use my Connie and other ships. Plan on getting a galaxy as my in between ship.
yes I plan to try to use it as a mobile base too
Combat is not my thing, atleast not on this scale and at this price point. For me, I think I'm going to stick my reclaimer, its money making ability, solo and multicrew gameplay, and mix of size 3 and 4 components. Hold is currently filled with 12 16scu crates of rmc and working on more. All solo. To everyone wanting the Polaris, I hope you have as much fun as I am. Maybe I will crew a turret or be an angineer in one of your ships one day.
i got reclaimer, idk why i got it when it came out- it looked crazy i guess and whole alien vibes.I want to main polaris but i want to see everyone in different ships as well, seeing diffefent ships around is fun
@@votpavel alien, I know. Sometimes when I'm running from one side to another I think I hear something off and pull my rifle. When it gets its gold pass/rework I hope they don't change that alien feel.
The torpedo total damage will actually be much higher than 11M, because erkul computes it from size 9 torpedoes, whereas Polaris will have size 10 torps (not implemented yet ;)
this is a great point!
The turret nerf has turned the polaris into basically just a better carrack as the carracks functionality is at present. This is basically my plan now. My polaris will replace the carrack, and I'll ccu the carrack to perseus
That's a pretty good plan, we need to know more about exploration imo, for me to really get excited about the Carrack again
@@ZyvhurStudiosI gambled with the Odyssey for exploration. I figure if it doesn't pan out, I've got a really versatile capital ship that meets my needs in other ways.
That ship is super cool, that is gonna be another excited one to watch
Polaris is not 181 meters it is 166 meters, the 181 is the bounding box size of the model.
Yep, confirmed by Starjump team.
This will be my solo ship just as a base and as a cargo ship. Will have a fighter, a mining ship or a salvage ship in it.
My most anticipated ship so far!
from a AUEC making perspective. polaris is not so effective I think. compare to peruses, nautilus and idris. the cost of those torps is going to be really high. and i doubt its ability to soft death ships and take their cargo.
You will TECHNICALLY be able to solo large and capital ships over short, safe distances but its going to be expensive, dangerous, and extremely ineffective. Even with AI someday. Its not the point of the game. They've been pretty clear about that from the start but especially so in the past year or so
Its not really about effectiveness but capability I think the most skilled player operators will be able to solo stuff like this for non dangerous situations
@@ZyvhurStudiosAgreed, and NPCs should be able to do non combat things for the roles they are assigned. It isn't clear yet of course, but that's my hope.
I thought it was established that you couldn’t solo this ship, from my knowledge it’s been stated that the pilot will have no usable guns, you need a someone in the torpedo room to fire the torpedos and you need players to use the turrets.
we will have blades and NPC's for that... Solo will be a thing... Sorry to the multi players but get over it already..
I too am looking forward to blades and AI to man my Perseus but we have no clue when they will come in or how useful they will be. My point is it’s more than likely that we won’t see them in at IAE and people shouldn’t expect to man this ship alone and expect to be a one man army at the end of the year.
@@BeggarsOutpost4 There is no NPC crew so far and won't be there anytime soon.
@@Kosty19 There is, you can already have a fully crewed ship if you want to, with full NPC gunners that will shoot at your hostile targets and ignore your friendly ones.
You just need to steal an enemy NPC ship by killing the pirate (preferably a HH).
Sadly these ships dont stay with you once you log out and sadly CIG has failed to make these NPC gunners available to us for the past 4-5 years, even though they said that they were doing it after the turret update 4 years ago, where they said on a show they were planning to have players being able to equip NPCs via the vehicle manager.
Its the only one you can run solo. But you can't run it solo and break even. Replenishing the S10 torps, even if you only run Xenothreat, and you kill the Idris with your first torp, will eventually stop breaking even.
This is not a ship for solo players, You may be able to fly it solo but You need crew to man the turrets and to operate stations. Its a ship for groups and orgas.
I can't wait to go roc mining with this thing. I'd run mine solo and just have it as a base of operations. Very likely scout global chat for those looking to crew up every now and then. Clearly I can't make any serious money or partake in battles without a crew, just good times pretending to be a lone warrior astronaut.
Yeah exactly I don't really see it as a good solo money maker but more of a base to transport ships and do things, basically how I use the carrack now lol
Solo??. Oh damn, this is going to be good.
I'm one solo! 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣
the S9 Torps are only placeholder till the S10s come in, i heard a leak mention that the S10 torps will do around 700k dmg per torp
They will probably cost the same amount in UEC.
Torpedos are entirely useless for almost any mission, as they eat rapidly through your profits.
There are no missions in this game currently that justify using S10 torps, unless you backspace and claim your ship to avoid paying maybe, but it probably comes with a hefty insurance timer.
@@MyN0N4M3 maybe an ERT idris, but anyways I doubt you'd need the torps in such a situation, since the polaris is getting up gunned it will be able to take down an idris with just it's guns, the torps is more of an emergency use kinda thing, that or pvp use (I think the idris will be out by the time the polaris comes out)
请问驾驶员能直接控制船上的S10鱼类吗
Everyone is talking about capital ships being unsoloable, what about the defacto large solo ship, the 600i? how difficult will it be when engineering is a factor? because i was hoping i'd be able to run it as my home away from home.
I think people are too worried about engineering if you get attacked it will only add survivability if you have a crew, but for solo pilots you will always just have to run away
@ZyvhurStudios a fair assessment. I know the risks of Soloing and understand that ships can be simply too large. But I do feel like the 600i is an outlier. All of it's components are localized and accessible(pre rework) and it's turrets are remote cotrolled from the bridge. 3 size 5 M7As under pilot control and 2 size 3 shields. The 600i can meaningfully hang in combat with heavy hitters and is one itself. Given you have a good pilot that understands the 600i's weaknesses and uses it's wicked range advantage to snipe midsize ships while putting shield power in front. I've survived some wild pvp encounters and taken down a fully crewed redeemer. When components are implemented and the hull HP system is gone I think the 600i will be even tougher.
I agree the 600i x is a truly exciting proposition for solo players
As a primarily solo player who doesn't run around with a group due to time limitations and not being able to stay in game to support a group action etc.. I no longer have any interest in any ship with more than one seat.. Engineering etc is going to make it too much hard work.
I just hope my vulture will fit in my polaris hangar
me too!
Going to be real hard to run this ship as a solo pilot, especially in any fleet engagements. I would think that the idea that you can solo it is a bit of a pipe dream, the ship is designed to spear head a fleet of ships and act as a flagship/command vessel. There may be NPCs in the future that you can have c0-pilot, man turrets, and perform engineering.. but it is unlikely they will ever perform at the level of an actual live crew... Find a good org man, this really is not a game for solo pilots, especially ones that want to fly capital ships...
That's exactly the trade off. Less performance but performance none the less.
I seriously doubt you can run a polaris solo... beside running cost and engeneering, the torpedoes alone need a dedicated operator.
I believe the pilot has just no weapon on this ship. not even mentionning it's going to be a very slow one, so no winning by overflying anyone. as a solo player you just gonna be a very nice target for eclipses and ares or any crewed capitals ships.
bro the eclipse is in such a rough state right now don't even mention it
very cool video , its full with details
Glad you liked it!
Wait I have a question what is your thoughts on the Nautilus?
The design and use case are very interesting to me, I'm a big fan of it, its gameplay loop just seems a bit far off
I’m really curious about how that dps is gonna be in game against the Idris
Also another great vid
thank you man!
Torpedoes need dedicated players on this ship. I don't even talk about the cost to run it... This ship is not made to make money, but to consume it. This is a warship to go in battle against other organization. Also, under-crewing a military ship is already not a good idea, but this one is probably the less "solo friendly" ship of the entire game.
What you will do when a component will fail in combat ? When a fire start at the rear ? and when a boarding action will occure ?
Forget it.
I think people are over reacting a bit about engineering, (as someone who has been testing it with only one other friend) imo it will add survivability if you have a crew but a solo player with no pilot controlled Guns will always have to runaway, engineering doesn't really change that
@@ZyvhurStudios I understand your point of view but i think otherwise, specially in combat situation when you will not be allowed to flee.
Do you have tested the reclaimer as solo player ? Actually this industrial ship can be solo, but even if the salvage seat are close to the pilot one, this is already painfull, after few run it become boring to do everything solo. I prefer returning on a Vulture even if this is less efficient.
So imagine on a ship like the Polaris ? This will be a pain in the a*s.
Try to undercrew a redeemer or a hammerhead, you will quickly understand how this idea is bad.
Now, if you absolutely want it, then take it. This is your money and you have no argument to provide other than: i want it.
that's fair :)
Might fly mine solo ... But only when npc/Blade is implamented. But i Will be understanding That i Will lose it that day... Will be impossible to stay alive alone for long.. Daily driver? ..nhaaa.
It won't do you any good owning the Polaris , and thinking you are going to man that solo.
Dose that mean you can use missiles as pilot
You should be able to use torpedoes only the rest are turrets so require players. You do get a lot of torpedoe, but they only travel at 250m/s, so most ships can just outrun them at scm speed so only really viable against larger slower ships it will wreck hull C's haha
Nah, they said that the torpedos need another player in that room to properly make use of. You could proably lock on to a target but that data must be relayed to the torpedo by another player, then that player will then allow the torpedo to be loaded into the tube so that you in return can finally shoot it.
As said above, to reload and fire torpedoes you need others players on this ship.
Not made for solo at all.
the polly has 16s3 hull mounted missiles I believe the pilot has control of
I have a Polaris on one account and an Odyssey on another! 😅
the dynamic duo :)
A Polaris full of fury
YES!
Oh gawd, the ghetto carrier. I bet you'd get at least 10-12 in there if you play a bit of tetris and enjoy living dangerously. At that point, you could use the Furies as makeshift torps if your actual ones run out. Just have the crew respawn and take a new one from the hangar.
The ultimate solo home base ship is the BMM, which is why it will never be released. CIG hates solo players
I still have one on buyback so hopefully the price doesn't go up to much
As a solo i think the liberartor is more interesting.
the libby is a great choice
im consider to upgrade my carrack to polaris or the nautilius but in doubth..
I ultimately upgraded my Nautilus because of the Polaris hanger but that's a hard choice