POLARIS FIRST IMPRESSIONS | STAR CITIZEN
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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That front port you thought was a window is actually a credit card slot for buying new ships.
That's the Polaris's USB charge port.
lights.
Polaris is a swiss army knife. It can do so much it's crazy. Love it. Love the aggressive look. Love that its a smaller cap ship and love its internal layout even if we still only have had a white box glimpse of it.
The Polaris is the ship i want to spend the most time in. My home base
You won't be able to do anything with that ship ... without a giant crew.
@@urbabyboss It shouldn't need a huge crew to park in the middle of nowhere and use as a mobile base/respawn point for a solo player, which is what I think he means when he says "my home base". It has plenty of hangar and cargo space so it can carry a fighter or two, can probably fit a vulture and a fury or arrow. Going under the logic you assume you won't be fighting back if you get into trouble and will just be running and staying safe/avoiding trouble in the first place it could be used as a rather inefficient but still viable tanky cargo hauler.
So unless it needs 2 pilots, a solo player should be able to use it for a variety of non-combat purposes; it's going to be a very versatile ship. If you don't expect solo Carrack lifers to be going away anytime soon, then you shouldn't not be expecting solo Polaris lifers to be a thing because both ships are very similar in size, and presumably a majority of the expenses of operating a Polaris would be using the expensive size 10 torpedos which you would not be using if you were using it for non-combat purposes anyways.
I do think that an absolute minimum of 2 players should be required to even remotely have any combat functionality in the Polaris, no torps on pilot (it would be nice but I worry the ship would just be a bigger better retaliator then). This in mind, if you are avoiding combat in the Polaris anyways, I see no reason why it would be impossible to use solo.
Inefficient? Yes
Nowhere near as effective as it could be with a crew? Yes
Capable of solo combat? No
Impossible to find a non-combat use for? No
I love and am thrilled for the Polaris. I only think it needs a couple of extra remote turrets. Especially rear and side facing. Maybe Scorpius rail for remote turrets to either cover sides or rear?
lol your hoping solo fly this monster as the captain has no control over the torps even special seat for shooting them too. this ship was never meant for solo.
@rory-red no way. Polaris is built for team play. Just looking over coverage archs and risks for Polaris being destroyed or borded. It needs more turret coverage in rear and sides toward rear. Also hoping the hanger is high enough to use a bunch of ships for all sorts of gameplay loops etc. Beyond this I ABSOLUTELY love the Polaris
@@cicio7777 at max you can park a vanguard, or two scorps. Cig dev said Polaris guns stay as we see them now.
@@rory-red you have people soloing bigger ship in game right now
My first impression of the Polaris? "SHWING BABY"
It's beautiful and I can't wait for this beast to get in the game!
Search and Rescue was always part of the Polaris' capabilities, people just forgot because they saw it as a warship..
Pairing things like the C8R, the Medical Ursa and the 4 med beds it has on board means it will be quite capable in a medical capacity, bailing bigger ships out of dangerous space..
nope, with only light armor you can only "hit and try to run" in dangerous space.
a post fight corpse collector - yes
It will be common as it is incredibly versatile, with the extensive cargo capacity, alongside top tier combat equipment. t is the base multirole capital. All of the combat capitals are multirole due to their size and capabilities that come with that, but the Polaris is perhaps the most dedicated to the concept of Jack of All Trades, Master of None.
Maybe I am a bit strange but looking at the Polaris like this actually makes me glad i melted it for a Perseus. This is way to much ship for my playstyle.
I mean isn't the Perseus meant to be a similar size? Like it's not massively smaller compared right?
I was exactly thinking the same. I‘ll melt my Polaris CCU. I Will definitely do not have enough friends and time to man this thing as often as it’s worth the money. And like to believe that you will have more fights in an Perseus against Connies HHs, Caterpillars and co as you will fight bloody big a** cap ships in an Polaris
@@LastPlaceHero The current metrics of the Perseus is smaller than the Hammerhead (It is a little taller than the HH though) if that helps with the visualisation.
PS: The old metrics of the Polaris I belive was similar to the Perseus, but the Polaris grew alot after the inital concept.
@@LastPlaceHero Perseus is only 100 meters Polaris is 168 meters so quite a size difference even the Galaxy is bigger at 110 meters.
@@LastPlaceHero Polaris 155m-14 crew/Perseus 100m-6 Crew, its small enough, but still too big to solo, i doubt he will though. Will expect the crew size to rise with engineering and fire management.
SAR was always in the description. I think it's the smallest ship with cap size radar, plus med bay, which would be huge for SAR.
yeah, not even the Idris or Kraken has a capital sized radar, only the Javelin (and obviously the Bengal proably)
One reason why I'm aiming to use this to stealthily gather Vanduul movements using the passive mode and sell that information
@@jet_flyer That might be the most amount of copium I've ever seen typed up. If you can do even 1% of what you just said in the next 10 years let me know
I would really like the Redeemer to fit in as it also suits the patrol role and gives that capacity for the extra crew. Granted, the Redeemer can also very well fly on its own, but I'd still like it to be in there. I'm afraid though that the hangar is a tad short for it. We will find out. Maybe a scorpius would be a good fit.
There's a LOT of surface complexity, almost to where it more matches the old RSI design like the Connie, rather than the longer, streamlined angular paneling of the Perseus or Apollo of the newer language. Not sure I like it, the complexity on a larger scale. Looks like the old Hull series concepts.
what I wonder about is the cockpit looks like strapped on from the bottom. Also the front section kind of always looked like it could seperate. So I wonder if there is some functionality to separate the front in case of emergency or blow the canopy off
I could imagine that the rear "door" is for some decoy or who knows what. I mean its RSI. they like to put things like turrets behind a protective door
Love the ship, looks amazing from the outside. Didn't see the point defense turrets though unless I missed it?
It just screams RSI which is great, BUT... that bridge... it's sticking out way more that I thought it would, almost to the point that it looks awkward.
Still love the ship *Wink RSI lover Wink* ❤
Amazing!! cant wait for it!!
I bet the Polaris shaders will look awesome.
I love this ship so much, Do you expect a price hike tomorow ?!
To be fair, i had it since 2015… and still can’t decide if i want this. That said its a better carrack for me but might be too big. But perseus lack the medbay, cargo and hangar that i like…. So…. Odyssey had my heart so far but polaris getting all the good stuff so…. Here we are again ^^
little thing on using port/starboard instead of left and right - its to remove any ambiguity regarding direction.
If im looking aft (towards the back) and say "attack from my left", thats actually the right of the ship. If i say "starboard", its clear what i mean. keeps it clean, prevents having to rewire the brain in the moment, etc
with the seemingly final turret nerf, I'll just be using my polaris as a replacement to the carrack. I will most likely ccu my carrack to perseus now
Its so big. I love it.
The Perseus is another corvette and its on the way after the Galaxy. Galaxy is next after the Polaris is done. Perseus is way smaller though.
The perseus is a gunship not a corvette.
8:14 That's the Polaris' USB port.
14 inches instead of 9 is a heck of an enhancement! 😂
I would have liked to see the interior. Guess we’ll have to wait a little while longer before we get to see that.
hard see a interior whens not finished
HOLY MOLY! Conny with tinted windows aswell? looks like rework for the cockpit to me :D
@Algrid take it easy, I hope you start feeling yourself again soon
Well the RSI MediUrsa interior is identical to the Anvil C8R lol
No it isn't.
[Question] why does polaris turrets look like drake cutlass black turret and small?
The size of the ship makes them look small, front turret has size 5 guns, top has size 4, bottom back and side turrets have quad size 3's.
Got fucked for weaponry with the turret changes. That killed the excitement for me. People are still enamoured with the idea that non-capital ships should be able to engage and take one down. Not sure fleet battles will work with this gamey approach. I do hope they add more capital ships between the polaris and the Idris, not above it.
but why would you fly a torpedo corvette in atmosphere I wonder. torpedos designed for space I'd imagine would just drop next to a planet even, certainly in atmosphere cuz you just wont have the velocities and the engine shouldn't be strong enough to lift it up. I'd imagine that a torpedo is primarily going into cruise speed and doing some manoeuvres before impact. granted you might want to land for some ground combat, but dont need to be super manoeuvrable for that.
soooo anyone want to take bets on what the winner of ship showdown next year ? also how many furyes you think can fit in this.......
To your second question: ALL 😂
No furries will be allowed on my ship as I am not into that sick sexual behavior. 😁
nahh.. i dont know enough people to make this worthwhile. It looks good, but repair rearm refuel, why have something so big? I'm waiting for the Vulcan which can do the same. Obviously with a lot less pew pew though.. I can see orgs using it though, just not for me.
It's clearly a usb port.
I need players to fill my polaris .. fill your applications
Making a Video with Apple Pods is not the right way...
All the manned turrets are a stupid idea and time allready showed that its dumb. waste of space, could easily be done by remote turrets. They really made everything in ways, that AI blades are needed now, but they still have no clue on how to implement them.
CIG has no idea what a Capital ship is. Ship is far too small to be called that. They throw it out there like French Toast and bacon.
eh i have seen better :p
YA MORE REWORKS LOL what CIG needs to do, They should change the name to REWORK because this is all we seem to get.
They're going to have to balance this thing with automatic defense turrets, because if it can kill on demand any ship in the game, that'll be terrible and boring.
It’s a capital ship. It’s supposed to be strong.
If a Captial ship isn't strong there is no point to having them, a fighter or smaller ship shouldn't just be able to roll up to a Polaris or Idris and take it out or compete with it. It's a ship ppl should be wary about confronting
We have an dedicated anti-torpedo corvette ingame. So a HH together with 2 Perseus and some fighters should be able to deal with it. And it’s more like an hit and run ship and not supposed to go toe to toe with other cap ships and corvettes.
You should message CIG, doubt they've even considered that.
You can target and shoot torps down in game right now,add decoys to that and this ship is hardly kill on demand.
GIB POLARIS!!
We lost a turret of guns and the 32 size 3 antifighter auto missiles that's a huge nerf especially since the ship is so much larger now
Yeah if those I suspect you may be right about downgrade if the anti fighter missiles are wiped. I suppose I’d expect those to be like the missile turrets on the 890j but automated rather than fixed into a forward firing position.
The missile turret is still there opposite the lower quad turret on top, it has 16 S3 and there's 16 in the forward battery so you technically can target more at one time. I'd hardly call it a nerf since the side and rear turrets were changed to quad guns instead of 2 as in the original so really the number of guns on turrets almost doubled
I was a bit surprised at the total lack of windows. I know it's a military ship, but even the Idris has a number of windows.
I have always the same disapointment. Just why can’t we have windows on ships ?!
its also not fully out yet so they might toss them in once they figure out the room ! heres to hoping
Agree, its a space game with beautiful planetary vistas, nebulea and exploration, and they seem to ignore windows/glass/window views. Make the glass mirrored. one way, armoured, instead of building windowless trash cans like the corsair/redeemer/600i/Carrack. Best ship for windows is the Phoenix, none comes close, not even the 890J, which is Ok,
Windows are an inherent weak point, space ships have more in common with submarines than aircraft because they need a perfect seal.
Look at modern submarines and spacecraft, they generally only have windows in the cockpit and on the space side they are tiny windows.
We should see more windows on the non-military craft though, explorers and luxury ships should have great viewing windows and to an extent they have done that in SC.
the turrets have windows, its a military service vessel not a cuise ship after all.
Honestly, the level of detail and greeble on this ship puts it closer to being something you might see in a sci-fi flick more than a game. I'm genuinely impressed.
That's wild. To have only just now learned the history of "port" and "starboard" from this video. Thanks, Algared!
Also an easy way to remember which is which: Port is left, because both have 4 letters.
@@chrisdavis7533 That is how I remember port as well.
The Polaris (exterior) is meeting and exceeding my expectations. Especially the design and detail of larger ships. It only makes me more excited to see more of these larger ships come online
Its exactly what i wanted and more on the exterior. The real test will be the interior. I really want to know if the cargo bay could carry a pieces. Doors look tall enough.
i am feeling confident that it can. Its going to be a little tight (because if the low ceiling) but if an Ursa can fit, im sure it can fit a Pisces! :)
I am not happy with the design. I really hoped and thought that they will move more in the direction of the newer RSI concepts like Galaxy and Arrastra. There are definitely much details on the exterior but for me it feels very wild, unstructured and I hate the material textures. These plating textures look super cheap. I probably will keep it as it is still a awesome ship but if possible I would instantly use a black paint to cover the finishing as best as I can. Is there anyone who feels kind of the same way about it?
I hate the Galaxy and Arrastra with the stupid racing foils that belong on some kids Honda Civic and serve no purpose, I think they kind of overdid it with the plating on the Polaris but I can live with it.
The first polaris concept looked more aerodynamic, has more turetts better designed and better placed. And sadly the polaris seems to have zero window, that’s a shame !
the thrusters have this carbon fiber like material i love it
Search and rescue and atmospheric flight was always part of the Polaris concept.
Loving this iteration of the Polaris. Was kinda surprised to see S3 guns on there but other than that, it has surpassed my expectations in nuance and detail. Now heres hoping for some exciting multi crew gameplay to come and obviously a black paint scheme.
Additional notes:
- Al is so right. CIG needs to incorporate those Aegis hair straightener engines into other ships.
- Isn't that Polaris summary the one CIG has been using on the sale page?
I need either black&yellow or concierge black&gold
Oh man, black/gold would be incredible.
Cig need to watch and learn from this. They are loosing peoples confidence when they shrug off built in features of the game like bed logging. If people want to log off anywhere there should be a big negative to that vs doing in a bed. Not good enough CIG.
the light literally, the turret figuratively lights it up. XD would have been nice if the turret also controlled the light direction.
its not really just a normal map most of the time. all the little details you see on the wings and metal sheets, that seem to be geometry are also texture. They just come out through displacement. But I agree that there are a lot of antennas and little winglets and mechanisms that are coming out and certainly are modeled out.
Was it not supposed to have an automated missile turret on top?
I think the nose looks kind of silly now. Preferred the original look. 😢
Search and Rescue role, is I suspect intended to cover the fairly high tier medical facilities on-board?
I think it looks nice. Excited to own one. Missiles in the front is a little weird design if you need to face the ship to the target to use it.
It has a missile turret on top too, all other ships in the game have forward facing missiles.
You can off angle attack with missiles right now, i do it with head tracking. Can even launch at targets behind if they are far enough away
@@rooster1012 i thought the missle turret was taken out in favor for cheek missle launcher
@@ahn7a6possible, it is a concern. Hard to tell since in the hall we cannot see the top. Now if we were in the Hurston show room we could walk along a gantry at least I remember walking down stairs maybe I’m showing my age. If someone has seen the one flying around the verse, if it exists, I’d love to see footage, as would Execute.
They show the inside of the hangar on the new white box video. It’s no mystery what it looks like inside.
That video is super old. It could be very different
BMM is capital. do you think there will be more BMMs or polarises?
That is incredibly cool and exciting!
[Question] Do you think the Hawk will fit in the hangar? That would be an awesome bounty hunting set up.
Hangar will fit heavy fighters. Only potential issue I see with the Hawk is the high tail. No one is going to know until the thing is actually in the verse with accessible interior and working hangar.
Hawk will easily fit, F7's, F8's, Gladiators, Hawks, Scorpius etc etc should all fit. Maybe even Vanguard series but we'll have to wait and see on that one but heavy fighters and down should fit fine.
GIB !!!
Good - I was hoping they were keeping the ramps. Thought they might go back on that since RSI seems to favor elevators
Amazing show as always gents!
I would love to join an org to be part of a team for a capital ship
there are many to join
We are always on the lookout for crewmen, let me know if being a nomad seems interesting to you
Right?! I don't mind being a turret gunner if there's a possibility i might have to hop out to put out fires and help with engineering repairs.
@@helloitsjay38 we have everything from
Polaris to Javelin so if you like capitals there will be a job for you somewhere, what’s your discord name
@@helloitsjay38 Semmes Intergalactic is currently developing documentation and procedures for engineering on our capital ships. Look us up if youd like, we have a website.
I want to dock a Connie or Mk2 beneeth the Polaris the same watly the Connie has a snub fighter. My Polaris could have a snub-meduim-gunship!
I'm pretty sure those fold out parts are supposed to be deflector screens so that at SCM speeds, missiles and laser/projectile shots don't go straight into the engines if fired from front on.
How cool would that be to have them fold out when coupled with a "Battle stations" red lighting that gets applied throughout the ship.
13:26
Algared's industrial background is showing.
I felt the same way about the MOLE's side turrets extending below the landing gear.
My first thought was that if I was an engineer working for MISC... I'd go to my bosses and say.. "Hey.. I have this great idea to put ARGO out of the mining business".
They are airbrakes. They are named as such in the game files. The Polaris actually has a lot of atmospheric control surfaces.
Polaris for Pyro. The RSI Constellation Andromeda is the jack-of-all ship, combat, cargo, and internals, but a master of none. I feel that the Polaris is taking on a similar role, but at a bigger scale. It offers repair, medical, internal storage of vehicles, and combat. I think this versatility is what people will come to value more than just its torpedoes.
That might be the intent for the Connie Andromeda. But I'd argue that it's the best gunship in the game right now.
@junior-fj8ud the original description of the Andromeda was as a "space superiority fighter" when CR talked about it a fully crewed Connie could comfortably take on 2-3fighters
@@Sandgroper-WA I can guarantee that at the moment it's not a "master of none" when it comes to combat in its size class.
@@junior-fj8ud Same as the Polaris.
you either will always waste torps on smaller ships that will kill you (redeemer/corsair/connie/ tally) or get damaged enough by using your guns.
Carrack is still king of Pyro.
@@gutsbobbles7973 Uh... not the same as the Polaris. The Connie Andromeda is currently one of the best ships for assassinating targets that don't require a torpedo. It's only possible competitor is the Corsair, which also mounts a heavy forward-facing armament.
I really wonder of it will have a station docking collar somewhere. I mean of the hammerhead need to dock externally to spaceeports, this beast really needs it. And i would personally put it on the opposite side of the cargo ramp for easy of transfering cargo from and to the station.
So the Polaris now has two retractable turrets?
28 S10 torps that's serious power
SAR could be for maritime use
I wonder if they will artificially limit the number of ships we can dock together. Since this has two ports, it would be infinite.
In gym class in the early 2000s, we did some boating with canoes, and during parts of it, we would all get up next too eachother and have kinda a large raft while the teacher spoke. Im just imagining an entire fleet linked up while out in the black now
@@MrSolLeks linking up a bunch of endeavors to create your own spacestation
I wish i had melted mine for a perseus. This polaris is just... Ugly.
- Why have lines over every panel?
- Why is it unicolor plastic gray?
- Its over enginered to the point where it looks like a child drew it. Like when you draw a spaceship at 7 years old and you just add a shitton if lines to make it look cool. The original concept just makes so much more sense.
i mean, random lines, one boring colour, overengineered... every point there applies to basically every military contract in history 🤣 id say thats points in favour of the design!
@@robotspartan9100
- There are no random lines on any military design...ever.
- Unicolor is on ships and aircraft makes sense on earth if they are gray. The gray color reduces the contrast of the vehicle with the horizon, and reduces the vertical patterns in the vehicle's appearance. It makes no sense to make any ship uni-colour in space if that colour is not black as night.
*Notes engines that are claimed to resemble those on the Redeemer*
*Hears question of why more ships don't mount Redeemer-style engines*
*Mentally notes the horrible speed and maneuverability of the Redeemer*
*Shakes head*
I am disapointed tht it did not get the aize 6's like they showed off in the North star video. Im fking pissed.
It's a cool ship, but it's just too darn big. Intellectually it was always "too big" for a small group, but walking around it? There's just no way I'll ever have enough people I trust to make good use of one.
''Intellectually'', cut the pretense, you haven't a clue. Leave the thinking to CIG, just enjoy your Mustang