Of all the real-life dogfight and missile evasion videos i've seen, I've never seen a movie really catch the actual intensity and exhaustion of the real deal. Real life is far more intense than the movies in this case.
@@saadman920 movie year : 2001 Whole 20 years of development is milestone ft.White Tiger (2012) vs T-34 (2018?) (even Hollywood still use classic machine gun sound to F-14 and too focused on dramatic)
@@Panos-xo9rc the gun firing scenes were good. Its as unrealistic as fury. No offence. There was a scene where brad pit chase a tiger tank with 3 Sherman. And his tank's back side ricochets a shot from tiger's 88mm gun . It is not possible even in war thunder.
@@saadman920 as far as battle realism goes T-34 is equally , if not more, stupid. In the final scene they enter a small town driving through back alleys and the germans send another tank(!) to face them. This is bewildering , an antitank infantry squad is the standard approach in such cases and everybody who has served knows it! Another funny aspect is the german officer who jumps from Army to SS , LOL....White Tiger on the other hand is a beautiful work , although it is not really a war film but an allegory...
@@717pixels9 They were exposed to high Gs for a long period of time. I am glad they survived Patriots but they won't be flying for some time. They need rest.
@@717pixels9 he complained that his hand hurt* I think it's because how hard the stick should have been at this high speed, he for sure had to push the stick as hard as he could
This is why Ukraine had to get rid of the A50U’s. The radar signatures of every weapon are documented down to each version of missile after enough exposure. Modern jets RWR (radar warning receiver) will say if it’s taking radiation. What spectrum, what direction. The controller and A50U database will know exactly what it is Controller on the A50 can use the Tech because it has 360 high detail radar put to 300 miles what alt the missiles are what bearing. Jam/ intelligence aircraft can do the same. Ukraine was sent 500+ command center radio sets since 2014. By 2022 all 500 had been destroyed by direction finding and they had to resort to using Starlink. On the modern battlefield the enemy knows where you are down to a 8 figure grid. The only thing that stops you from death is how important you are or if you are in their way.
@@atilamotila8907it's so sad to see that after an educated and detailful comment almost always comes a bullshit ignorant one, like yours. The pac3 missile of the Patriot is not invincible, it can be defeated with or without the help of an awacs
@@jugganaut33 they also get a similar effect from the 48Ya6 ‘Podlet-K1 ground control radar stations. RUSI writes reports on this if you are interested. The Soviet legacy was more interested in ground based control systems with tall radar masts than air based, that's why there are few A50s.
@@atilamotila8907 The way the two controllers are talking makes me think they are in two different radar stations. One controller is asking the other if he sees anything at one point.
The media is just focusing on undertrained pilots tank commanders and naval officers russia could have a chance in winning if they know how to play their cards right and not just throw men according to their doctrine
@@glintongordon6811 You are incorrect. We don't know what 'gravity' is so we cannot describe it. We do however know that 2 large bodies moving near one another accelerate each other with what we describe as 'gravitational pull'. That acceleration is aprox 9.81 m/s^2 on Earth, or 1G. So he is technically right that 'G' is a unit of acceleration.
He managed to fly out of the kill zone... and more than likely he droped all his cargo instantly when he heard that patriots are flying at him so it was not a bomber anymore when he got zero extra mass on him...
Remember, this is a Su-34, it is a bomber witth a fighter capabilties, it is not a fighter. And it could escape several (if you carefuly listen to the audio - at list two) patriot missiles. Pilot's skills and plane abilities are insane. Bravo.
@@СтепанТодышев Несмотря на то, что самолет создавался на основе су-27, это совершенно другая машина, ориентированная в основном на работу по наземным целям. Он способен нести вооружение типа воздух-воздух для дальнего и ближнего маневренного воздушного боя. Однако, если в дальнем бою шансы у него поразить истребитель противника и остаться целым есть, то в ближнем маневренном бою, против истребителя противника, су-34 явный аутсайдер.
@MsmekekekwkkemeKemekek Eh not really. Training helps you manage your adrenaline. Put an untrained person in that amount of pressure and they will fold. It's training 😂
The radar guy accurately relays info and updates to the pilot and the pilot adjusting to new info is commendable. Russian radar also shows it's accuracy.
At 1:27 there’s 2 controllers, a ground radar and an A50U, both are relaying information to the aircraft. Thus that’s why there’s more than 2 voices for the controller.
@@BlueMax109 Patriot in DCS is *under* modelled, as are many other SAM systems (both NATO and WarPac) and the AI does not know how to employ them properly. The shipborne Aegis system in DCS is an absolute joke compared to what it can actually do. Go watch Habitual Line Crosser for more info. Honestly this under modelling of SAMs is for good reason, the GAME would be unfun (and illegal to play as a civilian) if they were modelled accurately.
This incident has nothing to do with supermanoeuverability. In fact speed and maximum G-force was the reason the aircraft managed to escape. Supermaneuverability has a place for sure but this is not that situation
Для тех кто не понял, 23 тонная машина уходила на скоростях 1900 км/ч, от пяти пусков, пока второй борт зашёл дял удара по РЛС ракетой Х-31П. Машина получила лёгкие повреждение, как минимум РЛС Расчёта Патриот уничтожена. Для понимания габаритов F-111 примерный аналог Су-34, только менее манёвренный.
We know Ukr lost some units of Patriot Battery. But where was they deployed when hit. Kherson? One of them was hit while on the move. Sadly they had stopped at one spot for a long time. Probably waiting for orders from the HQ. So they have to be blamed.
@@CommandT Может поздновато, но у Fighterbomber в комментах отмечали, в том числе и он сам, что там была пара - Су-35 и Су-34. Как я понял 813-й и есть Су-35. И он заметил пуски, а потом отработал по радару Патриота.
@thebrain7441 yea no shit but it's the closest you can get to real life, NEARLY identical physics (ofc not perfect since it's computer) good damage render, accurate cockpits and etc. I think you know where in going
Objectively speaking, they were not before the war. The average (and I have to stress the word average) Russian pilot had less hours in the cockpit per year than is required to keep a flying license. The situation was a little better for the pilots who served in Syria but even they mostly flew in conditions when there was no opposing air force and no genuine anti-air. The VKF has only just gone through a trial by fire in Ukraine and upgraded itself after learning many hard lessons.
@@bilalbaig8586 I'd say that's true for the majority of Russia's combat units. The war has only made hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers combat experienced in the most violent conflict in Europe since WW2.
for whoever says Russian pilots arent skilled are either nafo warriors,Ukrainians(which is understandable),Brainwashed westerns or just brain-dead morons that just hate everything Russian. The fact of the matter is Russian pilots are not only some of the best but also have the most actual combat experience, I'm not talking about experience where you go up against a third-world country that has almost zero ways counter airle threats. I'm talking about experience where you have to worry about modern AD,EW, modern air-air capabilities, AWACS, satellites, drones all stuff that most Westerner/nato pilots never dealt with. Unless in training in there little war games simulators which is comparable to sparring in the boxing gym with all protection gear to a real fight where the other opponent is trying to rip your head off and has the skill to do so war simulator games and training to real war is two totally different things
It depends on what type of skills. Performing evasive maneuvers is one thing, being able to coordinate a DEAD mission to suppress and destroy enemy SAMs like Patriots is another.
The missile is invisible while is flying on guided mode until its activate the own radar, in that moment the aircraft RWR receive the spike and let you know from where the missile comes, but cant give you an accurate distance. For the distance, everybody (not only russians, but americans too) relies on the GCI, all the missiles are visible for air or ground radars (except R-73 or sidewinder or small ordnance from a plane far from the radar) The GCI can tell you the distance, bearing, speed, everything and the best egress bearing. The good thing for the russian part is that all the patriot emissions (land or missile) are saved in the sensors computer and they incorporate that spectrum signature in the next software update.
if i recall, Russian RWR are able to judge the threat distance since their RWR include "Signal Strength" parameters, the stronger the signal, the closer the missile, though idk if that RWR is installed on the Su-34 or not
СПАСИБО МЫ ВИДИМ КАК НАШЕ ПВО СБИВАЕТ ДРОНЫ КАЖДЫЙ ДЕНЬ И ВСЕ ПРИВЫКЛИ ЧТО МЫ В БЕЗОПАСНОСТИ НО САМОЕ ПРОТИВНОЕ ЧТО ОСКОЛКИ ПАДАЮТ И МОГУТ ПОДЖЕЧЬ,Я ИЗ РОССИИ И АМЕРИКА ПОСТАВЛЯЕТ ИМ ЭТИ ДРОНЫ ЧТОБЫ МЫ ТРАТИЛИСЬ НА РАКЕТЫ
Είναι πλέον επίσημο, συγγνώμη αλλά ως Γαλλοαμερικανός και πατριώτης, αναγκάζεται να παραδεχτεί ότι από εδώ και πέρα και χάρη σε αυτά τα 2 χρόνια σύγκρουσης, οι Ρώσοι είναι οι καλύτεροι πιλότοι που υπάρχουν
К сожалению, России доводиться участвовать в реальных боевых действиях, с противником имеющим нехилое вооружение, поэтому такие выводы. Если НЕ ДАЙ БОГ америка встрянет в войну с полноценным государством, я уверен, мы увидим мастер класс от американских лётчиков. Мир тебе, американский Джон, от русского Ивана.
A russian pilot with SU-34 successfully evades a patriot missile, meanwhile a western trained Ukrainian pilot with F-16 did not and crashed August 2024.. is it Pilot skill difference, inferior aircraft, or both? 🙃
Россия тратит на вооружение 5.6% ввп если она выделит 30% она способна на многое. Рф даже не заметила санкций половины мира. Они становятся на военные рельса и разгоняются.
@bikibora646 True, but he also had a very skilled A-50U AWACS operator for an angel that day. In fact, thanks to this video, I now learned an A-50U Beriev AWACS can track Patriot missiles in the air IN REAL TIME. 😱 Which is as awesome as it sounds from the efforts of that other guy helping the pilot with instructions.
@@StefanBlagojevic that's right.. but the su34 pilot was doing Most of the efforts by his own.. listen to it closely.. When the AWACS says to make an angle, the Su34 was already there in most of the times..
I believe it's an unique feeling of dread to be flying a combat aircraft and having a sophisticated killing device coming to kill you at high speed. It's not like a lion coming at you and you having to outrun it, it's much more complex than that: if your tech fails, if your knowledge fails, if your physical resistance fails, if your comm fails, if your situational awareness fails YOU ARE DEAD You're flying for your life, crazy stuff
The other (earlier) version of this audio on RUclips gives a bit more context in the description - it says that, of 3 missiles launched against the Su-34, one was shot down by Russian AA systems, whilst the other two were defeated by the combination of countermeasures and notching. Apparently the "cover aircraft" that alerted the Su-34 to the Patriot launch was able to fire off an anti-radiation missile, but it doesn't say whether it managed to hit the Patriot system.
F-16 has better radar and electronics part, so it can see launches from further away. However, being only a single engine aircraft, it might struggle to run away from it. Su-34 is kinda opposite.
@KGAnims The f16 without ECM would have a very high chance of being shot down in this scenario, the 6 missile shot at the f16 were all Vietnam era and weren't in the right range
This is a translation of a video HlE1wo9i_NM from a Fighterbomber YT channel (channel is made by the Russian militay pilot). The video is called "Не сегодня..." ("Not today"). The original video does not have any footage as well, only audio. For those who are wondering, here is a translation of the swearing that was cut off in the end: - Phew f*** - Phew b**ch - Aahhh f*** ahh my arm hurts [probably damaged his arm because of g-forses] - Fuu f***ng f****ts - SUCK [my or your own - unclear] F***NG LEGS! (this last one is as uncommon in Russian as it is in English but it surely came from the heart)
@@Ewan_Gaming Not exaclty. There is also an expressin in Russan "suck [your] paw" ("You will have to live with the consequences of your failure"). Like a bear could not procure food for himself and he is only left with an option to suck his paw, which bears are believed to do sometimes. So it is probably the mix of the two expressions.
to be correct, former military SU 34 Pilot who was retired shortly after beginning of the war. He was "grounded" by a doctor but he didn't talked about the reason on his telegram channel
Either got Arty striked or Anti rad? if its using its radar for that long it would tell the russian side where they are positioned at. even the serbs learned not to turn their radars if they know there isnt a sortie knowing theyll get blown up before they can shoot a plane down.
@@MegaPopilu It's really incredible and a unique aircraft. Back in early 2000's we used to call it after the Aussie "Platypus". To me it's kinda like a fat Flanker. Very maneuverable for a strike aircraft, basically the Russians managed to squeeze a bomber strike aircraft into an fighter chassis. I can only imagine how well it would maneuver if it had 3D vector thrust engine nozzles...
Whilst we Westerners may find the manner of interaction disagreeable this is irrelevant. As a team ground and air quickly detected and reacted to the missile threat. Any who assume the Russians are in some way ‘stupid’ or too rigid in tactics should take note.
Сами вы "глупы", это вам на западе мозги промыли всякими баснями, что весь остальной мир, кроме западного - тупые... В итоге тупыми останетесь в своём надмении только вы)
At this point Russian aircraft are by far the most combat proven. The US has never operated any aircraft in such a well defended airspace, so their claims remain to be seen.
@@soulfuII haha, no. The best pilot in the world wouldn't have survived that if he was flying a shit plane. Russia has been operating in an air space defended by the most modern western Air defenses for years now and they're very good at it. Sure every couple of months they'll lose a plane, but that's equivalent of losing one jet for every 1000+ sorties.
Скорее всего,после слов «по вам ракета,работу запрещаю», они скинули груз и уходили на легке,ибо там такая функция есть,и как я думаю,они достаточно часто так делали.
@@CommandT Although the crew got the order from the AWACS to evacuate as soon as the Patriot started to fire 754 crew still delivered the ordonance before taking evasive manuvers !
That Patriot battery threw everything they had at him and JUST him, and they survived.. A detonation just behind them.. Probably why the intercom is damaged.. They took some of the specialized killer shrapnel.. Yet obviously no critical or other secondary alarm worthy systems hit.. This is absolutely amazing... That's one seriously good pilot and the navigator and controller were absolutely top notch as well.. That navigator, My God, he's one hardcore cold as ice under fire airman... His voice, even at the worst of it is clear, focused and disciplined. The pilot is obviously the more conceptual guy, which is absolutely critical as a pilot of any sort, much less a pilot fighting for his life against an advanced modern AA missile battery. That's why he is cursing as much as well.. Because in his mind he is clearly seeing how bad it was for them and the razors edge he needed to fly the plane through to survive. We used to have aircrews like this in the U.S.. But now we've traded bad asses like these men for diversity quota political hires...
If the missile did actually damage the aircraft i highly doubt the only system knocked out would be the intercom, this was likely the pilots putting the plane trough higher than rated G forces which might have temporarily disabled some systems due to wires falling out etc from the force
@@speen9430 I might add, the canopy itself is actually an Armed Titanium tub. I don't know how much it protect, but it is better than paper, like F-16 is
754 - Su-34 with "FABs" 813 - Su-35 with Kh-31P working as a cover for 754. His voice calls "Patriot i illuminating, egress" And the ground officer, who tells headings, speed, altitudes, etc.
Amazing it outmanuvered a patriot missile considering this is a slower and larger variant of the flanker.. What were its tactics? Chaff, ECM, full speed left? Pls explain somebody
I'm not familiar exactly with all the details we heard in the audio. But my best simple guess is this. 1. The controller notifies the Su-34 crew of a Patriot firing on them. Then immediately tells them to dive to a lower altitude and direction away from the missile. This puts more distance between the Su-34 and the missile itself, and drags the missile into thicker air to help slow the missile down. 2 the controller constant gives updates of directions of travel to the Crew likely causing to Su-34 to either be in full 'flight mode' where the Su-34 is constantly flying away from the missile, and or performing a notch maneuver at the same time. Or making the Su-34 perform what could be called a 'gentle serpentine maneuver' forcing the missile to constantly turn and bleed speed (cause once the missile's speed drops below that of the target the missile is almost useless. The only real way the missile would still be useful at that point os if the target and the missile are flying directly or almost durectly at each other.) 3. The contant maneuvering however likely slowed the Su-34 down a bit as it is both a large aircraft and likely ladden with heavy munitions allowing the patriot missile to catch up. However the Patriot missile either malfunctioned, set itself off early, or lost too much speed, or it's flight time 'expired' causing the Patriot to explode some distance behind the Su-34. The explosion was clearly far enough that it didn't do meaningful damage to the Su-34, and wasn't close enough to rattle the crew. But it was close enough to mess with their comms. Whether it was a lucky hit with shrapnel, or something else, it's clear the missile still got uncomfortably close. 4. The crew continue to fly away and assess the damage done. No complaints of loss of flight control is heard, just loss of comms, even their local comms (bring able to speak to the guy next to you). 5. That's basically what UlI took from the audio. I could easily be misinterpreting some things, but that's the best I've got at the moment.
@@Shadoweye12 thank you.. It was also said on the conversation that one missile just flew past by them.. It's navigation could be altered by the Khibiny ECM though.. but agaiin i dunno facts about the khibiny
Likely is a combination of tactics.. and not just one thing. What is clear is that they try to full the missile or its operators? to think the plane is moving in one direction to the right and then when missile was 30km near ,full dodge to the left and then full speed. So that Su-34 if other guy comments are correct dodge no less than 2 patriot missiles with help of Russian ground radars operators. and a third one was intercepted by Russian air defenses. That was pretty awesome performance by Russian airforce and radars Guys. All work together to save the Su-34. The experience this pilots learned will be used to train future generations of pilots.
Su-34 is akin to a F15E. Fat and heavy, but it is still capable. Radar guided missiles track based on echolocation of radar. Data gained by the echo is run through an algorithm that predicts the path of the target and the missile adjusts itself to maintain a lead for interception Generally how you defeat radar guided missiles is to place your flight path exactly 90 degrees to the missile so you appear as a static object. This reduces the missiles ability to predict change in distance and degrades its ability to track effectively. Older missiles such as the ones in Ukraine lack certain features that overcome these kind of shortfalls in more modern variants. Command is updating the pilot with the heading and direction of the missile so the pilot can put himself on a 90 degree vector before dropping low and running so the missile gets dragged into denser air near the surface. Missiles only burn for a short while before relying in inertia to carry them to the target. If you can get low, dragging missiles through dense air bleeds off their inertia faster before they loose enough that you can outrun them
Если ракета была замечена запущенной в истребитель с такого большого расстояния, было очень легко уклониться от нее. Да, я знаю, о чем говорю. Если бы она была выпущена с гораздо более близкого расстояния, не имея достаточно времени, чтобы распознать ее приближение, было бы очень сложно предпринять действия по уклонению. Поскольку приближающаяся ракета была так далеко, истребитель мог бы просто убежать прямо от ракеты и не беспокоиться, ракета никогда бы его не достигла. В любом случае, когда приближается ракета радарного типа, вы всегда, ВСЕГДА должны лететь очень немедленно как можно ближе к земле, по возможности на уровне деревьев, а также на меньшей скорости и по возможности перпендикулярно радару системы обороны или радару ракеты. Таким образом, радар может очень быстро потерять захват целей, которые находятся в десятках километров и которые летят низко. Попробуйте эту тактику с подготовкой и осторожностью, и вы всегда будете в безопасности. Я румынский инженер-авиаконструктор и пилот с достаточно хорошими знаниями, чтобы быть полезным. Да восхвалят вас Бог, Святая Троица, собратья православные летчики, и Он защитит вас в небе. В отличие от других румын, которых Запад очень плохо убеждает и лжет, я хотел бы помочь вам победить это зло, наше общее зло! Ваш, Андрей.
Я думаю, Вы правы. 👍Тут, наверное, большее восхищение вызывает то, как слаженно работали ребята на радаре с теми, кто за штурвалом. Вы сказали: "..истребитель мог бы просто убежать..", но это не истребитель, а фронтовой бомбер.. хоть и достаточно манёвренный, но тяжёлый (учитывая, что шёл на боевой вылет, то очень тяжёлый, наверное) и это несколько усложняет задачу. Да и в любом случае, это, я думаю, очень стрессовая ситуация.
@@kkrevprod Спасибо и вам! Я только надеюсь, что Россия не будет слишком суровой к Румынии за то, что ее жалкие правители (вроде тех, что на Украине) делают от ее имени. Добрые чувства к вам и слава Господу.
@@HiiragiKagami Истребитель-бомбардировщик все еще остается истребителем и в любую секунду, если пилоту это нужно, может сбросить боезапас для лучшего ускорения. Но я могу вам точно сказать, что на расстоянии 70-80 км, даже полностью загруженный оружием, если этот истребитель отвернется на 180 градусов от ракеты, ракета никогда его не догонит, просто потому, что скорость истребителя увеличивается, а скорость ракеты уменьшается. Я знаю, это может показаться странным, но я играл и тренировался в DCS (Digital Combat Simulator, изначально созданный русскими), и поскольку он довольно реалистично имитирует максимальную дальность ракет класса «земля-воздух», а также характеристики самолетов, я смог убежать от Patriot даже с расстояния 40 км, и ракета приближалась ко мне все медленнее и медленнее, пока не достигла меня. То, как я описал вариант убегания, доказуемо. С уважением! Андрей.
@@Maverickf22flyer Я не спорю... Я лишь говорю, что это может усложнить задачу, не более. Опять же, стрессовая ситуация, где нужно принимать решения быстро. Эти люди явно сталкиваются с опасными моментами не в первый раз.
That's what I miss most in DCS: in the game you are on your own. Only Awacs to tell you BRAA, but in RL people on the ground help you, talk to you, give you instructions. Also: the absolute monumental physical stress when trying to evade a SAM is effin intense!
The argggh and The silence meanwhile GForces and Patriots are Blasting in front ur eyes, shows how professional they are. God Bless every single man in The earth. ❤
@@DrGreenThumbNZL true they arnt mystical, but the guy got locked onto at 60km when a patirot would lock onto it well over 100km, not to mention that proxy fuze is sintthing the pac-3 doesnt have, but its also still more than likely a s300 fact that ukraine has very few patriot systems, the russians out there saying they got shot at by a zebra when its just a normal horse.
@@TheOriginukIt isn't about max Range stupid. If you could apply maximum range on every radar and missile, then the Su-34 would have been detected earlier and he would face missile earlier as well. It could be a various of reasons this did not happen. Real time war is dynamic, not some game event
@CommandT so why no army or air force in the world use Cessna for high risk mission where SAM missiles are deployed? Don't dream please!!! Cessna in a sam deployed zone= Abattoir aka slaughtering mission.Stop selling wind to people.
The whole recording is highly tense, you listen to it with twitching muscles. And here 4:29 springs a spontaneous light of sublime humanity! Amazing recording, thanks!
@@MegaPopilu This expression is generally appropriate for that moment, but "братишка" (not "брат", i.e. "brother") is a diminutive (affectionate) form. Not being an expert in English, I guess the word like "bro" would be closer.
@@hirsm Maybe yes, maybe not. I wonder where you heard that. Probably in Kyiv Independent (or some other media that draws from there). But you still haven't said anything about the videos of the Patriots being blown into smiterens by the Russian defense. This week there have only been three en Kursk.
@@nicolaslopez2662 Russia has been caught using old videos several times recently, and only one of the batteries is clearly authentic and the others are probable decoys. Like why would Ukraine put SAM site on the middle of a field. Ukraine is in an offensive phase at kharkiv and due to the stretching of the front lines, the sam sites have to be placed close to AO anyway. Russia simultaneously lost 3 s300/s400 batteries to atacms 2 months ago so similar incidents have happened before. If you're going to keep practicing OSINT, i recommend you to check the news from more than one source before sharing propaganda material from a disinformation outlet with malicious intent..
Three recent videos have appeared in the last two days. Two with Patriot batteries and one with Iris-T. Everything is there as you like - air defense missile launches, Iskander arrivals, secondary detonation...
Vous avez raison, il est temps d'y mettre les terme à cette guerre fratricide qui n'a que trop duré. Beaucoup de personnes ont mortes pour rien. Chaque vie comptent que ça les russes ou les Ukrainiens. Une génération sacrifiée pour des raisons qui les dépassent.😢😢😢
@@niksonrex88 Their job being to kill others and risk dying themselves because your government said so. This war is pointless and only serves the interests of the government and other powerful entities, while their citizens have to suffer the consequences.
@@niksonrex88Doesn't mean they don't value their lives. I'm on the training path to be an air force pilot (hopefully fighters) and I have no plans of dying or getting shot down.
@@CommandT , вы гражданин России, Украины или третьей страны? Вроде пишете хорошо по-русски, но не чувствую, что он вам родной. Более того, по переводу есть ощущение, что и английский язык вам не родной тоже. Поясню интерес: возможно, возникнет необходимость в переводе другого подобного ролика.
For 6 minutes, the overload is 6-7.5 G, ordinary people lose consciousness in 30 seconds at 3-4 G, the pilots moved their arms with their heads, legs, when their weight was 600-750 kilograms, this is a titanic huge effort, the pilot’s arm hurt, he switched to afterburner, he broke his arm, the pilot is a top-class professional, there are very few such pilots. Tom Cruise is baby 👶.
Hopefully someone can overlay the missile and plane information on DCS to make an animation of the event (with audio). Would help a lot and be really cool too.
This is all electronic warfare. That just shows you how crazy their technology is getting. The pilots don't even care for visual confirmation. They're just going to egress out fast as possible.
just wondering why there no RWR form the su-34 it self. ( TWS lunches form patriot or AESE Radar ??) and how the controller know this inforamtion ? is he in A-50 ?
Su-34 has basic RWR “in the plane” and more advanced in the Khibiny wing pods. The problem is that it can’t see the launch as long as missile is on TWS guidance. They get constantly “spiked” by different radars, so it is not wise to react to any signal as a missile launch. The controller might be anyone, a local Su-30SM1 WSO who sees missiles and Su-34 on his radar, might be an A-50, might be from a ground station, as they are pretty common in the area. I hope my explanation is satisfactory. Hello from Mariupol!
Impressionante como esse piloto russo conseguiu escapar de tantos mísseis. Muita habilidade, avião incrível e apoio de terra excelente. Parabéns a todos e volte para abraçar a sua família GUERREIRO 🙏🙏🙏
theres just so many comments full of hatred, cant you just stop and just give respect that the pilot is a fucking badass? thats fucking impressive no matter the nationality
@@danicao.6778Still way to big for S-300 last version. If this is real audio then it proves that Patriot is obsolete as anti air especially against much faster targets then simple fighter jet is.
Its more likely it was an S-300 rather than a patriot, Pac-3s are kentic kill weapons and those are the ones ukraine have, plus the patriot would have fired at this at over 100km not 60 and its very very unlikely at 60 the plane would live, or even detect the missile, so more than likely based on the fact that the missiles proxy fuze whent off, 60km lock on and the guy not being dead, its S-300, and if its not a s-300 its maybe a NASAM but not a Patriot, this is basicly the russians calling everything a "tiger" when there is a like less than 1% chance it is one.
Russian telegram channels also reported that for completing the combat mission (bombs were dropped on the target) and successfully avoiding the enemy missile and saving the aircraft, the crew was awarded the Order of Courage.
No, it was informed in russian tg channels. Maybe they managed to drop a couple of bombs and had to work on the remaining ones for another target. I could only guess. And whether to believe Russian military channels or not is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
I probably took 2 short breaths watching this...one thing is clear, Patriot is no joke, it fired from a very long way off, the dude defended like there was no tomorrow (rightfully so) still the missile barely missed. Damn!
the audio is more intense than the missile chasing scene in behind enemy lines
Of all the real-life dogfight and missile evasion videos i've seen, I've never seen a movie really catch the actual intensity and exhaustion of the real deal.
Real life is far more intense than the movies in this case.
@@saadman920 movie year : 2001
Whole 20 years of development is milestone ft.White Tiger (2012) vs T-34 (2018?)
(even Hollywood still use classic machine gun sound to F-14 and too focused on dramatic)
@@SRDPS2 White Tiger is a must watch , T-34 is a stupid joke.
@@Panos-xo9rc the gun firing scenes were good. Its as unrealistic as fury. No offence. There was a scene where brad pit chase a tiger tank with 3 Sherman. And his tank's back side ricochets a shot from tiger's 88mm gun . It is not possible even in war thunder.
@@saadman920 as far as battle realism goes T-34 is equally , if not more, stupid. In the final scene they enter a small town driving through back alleys and the germans send another tank(!) to face them. This is bewildering , an antitank infantry squad is the standard approach in such cases and everybody who has served knows it! Another funny aspect is the german officer who jumps from Army to SS , LOL....White Tiger on the other hand is a beautiful work , although it is not really a war film but an allegory...
bro didnt missed a single G force training session, he took 6G to 8G during the whole time
Maneuvering while in full speed...Not a pleasant way to spent your day.
In the cut off part in the end he complained about his arm hurting, probably the consequence of g-forces
@@717pixels9 They were exposed to high Gs for a long period of time. I am glad they survived Patriots but they won't be flying for some time. They need rest.
@@717pixels9 he complained that his hand hurt*
I think it's because how hard the stick should have been at this high speed, he for sure had to push the stick as hard as he could
OP has no clue. The fullback was never at 10G
It's really fascinating how closely they can track the rocket and give the pilot important information.
This is why Ukraine had to get rid of the A50U’s.
The radar signatures of every weapon are documented down to each version of missile after enough exposure.
Modern jets RWR (radar warning receiver) will say if it’s taking radiation. What spectrum, what direction.
The controller and A50U database will know exactly what it is
Controller on the A50 can use the Tech because it has 360 high detail radar put to 300 miles what alt the missiles are what bearing.
Jam/ intelligence aircraft can do the same. Ukraine was sent 500+ command center radio sets since 2014.
By 2022 all 500 had been destroyed by direction finding and they had to resort to using Starlink.
On the modern battlefield the enemy knows where you are down to a 8 figure grid. The only thing that stops you from death is how important you are or if you are in their way.
@@jugganaut33 Correct, and if it wasnt for the A-50 this SU-34 would have been more than toast, the pilot would have been minced meat.
@@atilamotila8907it's so sad to see that after an educated and detailful comment almost always comes a bullshit ignorant one, like yours. The pac3 missile of the Patriot is not invincible, it can be defeated with or without the help of an awacs
@@jugganaut33 they also get a similar effect from the 48Ya6 ‘Podlet-K1 ground control radar stations. RUSI writes reports on this if you are interested. The Soviet legacy was more interested in ground based control systems with tall radar masts than air based, that's why there are few A50s.
@@atilamotila8907 The way the two controllers are talking makes me think they are in two different radar stations. One controller is asking the other if he sees anything at one point.
Me in War Thunder: casually pressing a couple of buttons at the same time
Meanwhile my crew:
WT doesn't have the Su-34
@@PineCone227_ he's maybe talking about evading missiles from the pantsir or type 81 cause that is one stressful situation 😅😂
Gunner, HEAT, PC is more intense
@@swarajkar3086 GHPC is not an aircraft game
@@swarajkar3086 bro is stupid
That pilot aged 20 years in 5 minutes
Someone hasn’t seen the Package Q strike video. You must be a Gen Z or younger.
@@zeitgeistx5239
You must be a boomer or older
Это обычный боевой вылет
@@crazyfalcon535не думаю что совсем обычный,но и не совсем редкий.
One day perhaps you will reach the age of 5 kid !
Su 34s are much more slower then su35s and they are just as big but this shows how good these pilots are
The media is just focusing on undertrained pilots tank commanders and naval officers russia could have a chance in winning if they know how to play their cards right and not just throw men according to their doctrine
@@homerogarcia3094
This shows nothing other than decent acting of two actors sitting in a recording room.
@@24MiHind what you're doing here nafo😂
@@24MiHind Can't tell if you're genuinely this stupid,or just trying to troll
@@24MiHind the cope
I can imagine the G forces they are under evading. You can hear it literally.
G is not a force, it's a unit of acceleration.
No it isn't, g- represent gravity... 😂😂😂😂Stop trying to look intelligent @@roddeazevedo
@@glintongordon6811 You are incorrect. We don't know what 'gravity' is so we cannot describe it. We do however know that 2 large bodies moving near one another accelerate each other with what we describe as 'gravitational pull'. That acceleration is aprox 9.81 m/s^2 on Earth, or 1G. So he is technically right that 'G' is a unit of acceleration.
@@roddeazevedo its still a force, look up G-force
@@roddeazevedo That changes everything! Then they had it super easy; barely an inconvenience! (said in a Screenwriter Guy voice)
bro managed to dodge 4+ patriot missiles in a fighter bomber. 🙌
He managed to fly out of the kill zone... and more than likely he droped all his cargo instantly when he heard that patriots are flying at him so it was not a bomber anymore when he got zero extra mass on him...
@@Bialy_1оооо, ну конечно, источник: верьте мне
@@Mouse1-l3tYour research is very poor
@Bialy_1 more than likely he would've communicated that in radio if that was real.
@@Mouse1-l3t And that's all you have to say.
Remember, this is a Su-34, it is a bomber witth a fighter capabilties, it is not a fighter. And it could escape several (if you carefuly listen to the audio - at list two) patriot missiles. Pilot's skills and plane abilities are insane. Bravo.
Это буквально истребитель-бомбардировщик.Су-34 создан на базе Су-27,это вроде известный факт
@@СтепанТодышев Несмотря на то, что самолет создавался на основе су-27, это совершенно другая машина, ориентированная в основном на работу по наземным целям. Он способен нести вооружение типа воздух-воздух для дальнего и ближнего маневренного воздушного боя. Однако, если в дальнем бою шансы у него поразить истребитель противника и остаться целым есть, то в ближнем маневренном бою, против истребителя противника, су-34 явный аутсайдер.
3 Patriot Missiles actually
Su-34...multipurpose jet fighter,,boombing and dogfight..
Now russia pilot proves this words from maveric movie😂😂😂
"it's not plane,but it's pilot"..
there are 3 missiles being launched
That pilot is the real Mavrick from Top Gun.
If somebody yells at u how stressfull his Job is. Just let them know
Comment of the century - ROFL
Man that pilot is doing everything he can just to remain conscious much less evade an incoming missile.
Adrenaline
@@bikexplorer2203 no, training
@@snakeoo7caboth
@MsmekekekwkkemeKemekek Eh not really. Training helps you manage your adrenaline. Put an untrained person in that amount of pressure and they will fold.
It's training 😂
The radar guy accurately relays info and updates to the pilot and the pilot adjusting to new info is commendable. Russian radar also shows it's accuracy.
Radar guy was in su-35
He is using a spotter in another plane dim-wit
no, we have only showels, and no single microwaveoven.
@@aziaev Асфальта у нас тоже нет и унитаз не видели....))))
At 1:27 there’s 2 controllers, a ground radar and an A50U, both are relaying information to the aircraft. Thus that’s why there’s more than 2 voices for the controller.
Waiting for someone to replicate this in DCS
agree, we need DCS reenactment for this
not enough info to do so
Chasing by missiles is countless in DCS, but fewer players are recording it.
@@innocentpasserby9632 good luck with that. The patriot is over modelled and the Su34 isn't modelled at all.
@@BlueMax109 Patriot in DCS is *under* modelled, as are many other SAM systems (both NATO and WarPac) and the AI does not know how to employ them properly. The shipborne Aegis system in DCS is an absolute joke compared to what it can actually do. Go watch Habitual Line Crosser for more info. Honestly this under modelling of SAMs is for good reason, the GAME would be unfun (and illegal to play as a civilian) if they were modelled accurately.
Imagine at the end the command says to pilot..
" lol bro, just kidding"
😅
I get the joke but they got RWR anyways so
there were 2 explosions 'behind" so no kidding around that.
"So what do you think when I still have a couple of UMPK?"
"Blya-"
@@viswajitbala7924 they can't get rwr from patriot missile
This is more intense than dozens of movies I've seen about dogfights and air combat
РФ СИЛЬНОЕ ПВО ПРОБЛЕМА ЧТО СТРАНА БОЛЬШАЯ БОЛЬШЕ ВСЕХ
No need for this guy to do his "high G" refresher training this year!
That was seriously intense
And then they say that super maneuverability is only for the air shows...
Only westoid orksupporters say that, friend.
This incident has nothing to do with supermanoeuverability. In fact speed and maximum G-force was the reason the aircraft managed to escape.
Supermaneuverability has a place for sure but this is not that situation
@@CommandTAnd that G force is generated only by speed?
The Patriot missed because Emma was operating it
Oh no sexiiiiiiism 😢😢😢😭😭😭
who is Emma?
@kxsgwjdejjx it's a meme where there was that US military ad about Emma and her 2 moms
Not just a regular Emma, but Emma wih two moms 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Bc it's not the wonder weapon
"the pilot then proceeds to swear a lot more."
understandable.
Для тех кто не понял, 23 тонная машина уходила на скоростях 1900 км/ч, от пяти пусков, пока второй борт зашёл дял удара по РЛС ракетой Х-31П.
Машина получила лёгкие повреждение, как минимум РЛС Расчёта Патриот уничтожена.
Для понимания габаритов F-111 примерный аналог Су-34, только менее манёвренный.
А откуда информация про Х-31? Есть источник?
We know Ukr lost some units of Patriot Battery. But where was they deployed when hit. Kherson?
One of them was hit while on the move. Sadly they had stopped at one spot for a long time. Probably waiting for orders from the HQ. So they have to be blamed.
@@CommandT Fighterbobmber в комментах рассказал под своим видео
@@CommandT Может поздновато, но у Fighterbomber в комментах отмечали, в том числе и он сам, что там была пара - Су-35 и Су-34. Как я понял 813-й и есть Су-35. И он заметил пуски, а потом отработал по радару Патриота.
Me and the boys playing dcs
On the toilet
Me alone playing DCS (I am the best on keyboard)
@@259559ful Because if not, he's shitting his pants.
@thebrain7441 yea no shit but it's the closest you can get to real life, NEARLY identical physics (ofc not perfect since it's computer) good damage render, accurate cockpits and etc. I think you know where in going
@thebrain7441 yeah, you get to respawn after a missile claps you in dcs
This crazy now I will refuse to listen to anyone claiming that Russian pilots aren’t skilled loooooooool
Objectively speaking, they were not before the war. The average (and I have to stress the word average) Russian pilot had less hours in the cockpit per year than is required to keep a flying license. The situation was a little better for the pilots who served in Syria but even they mostly flew in conditions when there was no opposing air force and no genuine anti-air. The VKF has only just gone through a trial by fire in Ukraine and upgraded itself after learning many hard lessons.
All pilots are skilled after 2y of war
@@bilalbaig8586
I'd say that's true for the majority of Russia's combat units. The war has only made hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers combat experienced in the most violent conflict in Europe since WW2.
for whoever says Russian pilots arent skilled are either nafo warriors,Ukrainians(which is understandable),Brainwashed westerns or just brain-dead morons that just hate everything Russian. The fact of the matter is Russian pilots are not only some of the best but also have the most actual combat experience, I'm not talking about experience where you go up against a third-world country that has almost zero ways counter airle threats. I'm talking about experience where you have to worry about modern AD,EW, modern air-air capabilities, AWACS, satellites, drones all stuff that most Westerner/nato pilots never dealt with. Unless in training in there little war games simulators which is comparable to sparring in the boxing gym with all protection gear to a real fight where the other opponent is trying to rip your head off and has the skill to do so war simulator games and training to real war is two totally different things
It depends on what type of skills. Performing evasive maneuvers is one thing, being able to coordinate a DEAD mission to suppress and destroy enemy SAMs like Patriots is another.
I would have liked to hear the swearing.
In the end he said: "suck my legs"(to enemy)
I made a translation of a swearing in a separate comment for this video
Right?
Es es viel emotionaler wenn man die Sprache versteht. Man fühlt fast den Schmerz..
@@hobbypriester2252Er hätte einfach in seinem Land bleiben sollen und nicht seine Nachbarn bombardieren...
The missile is invisible while is flying on guided mode until its activate the own radar, in that moment the aircraft RWR receive the spike and let you know from where the missile comes, but cant give you an accurate distance. For the distance, everybody (not only russians, but americans too) relies on the GCI, all the missiles are visible for air or ground radars (except R-73 or sidewinder or small ordnance from a plane far from the radar)
The GCI can tell you the distance, bearing, speed, everything and the best egress bearing.
The good thing for the russian part is that all the patriot emissions (land or missile) are saved in the sensors computer and they incorporate that spectrum signature in the next software update.
if i recall, Russian RWR are able to judge the threat distance since their RWR include "Signal Strength" parameters, the stronger the signal, the closer the missile, though idk if that RWR is installed on the Su-34 or not
your knowledge is outdated
@@fdenrico9861 which model RWR? I can search for you
@@belgianfried It's "SPO-15", as far as i know, it's equipped in lots of Soviet aircraft so it's pretty common
@@fdenrico9861 СПО-15 is a 1982 model RWR. I believe it does have that feature to an extent
Habe am Ende vor Freude Tränen verloren. Wünsche den Piloten viel Kraft und Erfolg!
СПАСИБО МЫ ВИДИМ КАК НАШЕ ПВО СБИВАЕТ ДРОНЫ КАЖДЫЙ ДЕНЬ И ВСЕ ПРИВЫКЛИ ЧТО МЫ В БЕЗОПАСНОСТИ НО САМОЕ ПРОТИВНОЕ ЧТО ОСКОЛКИ ПАДАЮТ И МОГУТ ПОДЖЕЧЬ,Я ИЗ РОССИИ И АМЕРИКА ПОСТАВЛЯЕТ ИМ ЭТИ ДРОНЫ ЧТОБЫ МЫ ТРАТИЛИСЬ НА РАКЕТЫ
Είναι πλέον επίσημο, συγγνώμη αλλά ως Γαλλοαμερικανός και πατριώτης, αναγκάζεται να παραδεχτεί ότι από εδώ και πέρα και χάρη σε αυτά τα 2 χρόνια σύγκρουσης, οι Ρώσοι είναι οι καλύτεροι πιλότοι που υπάρχουν
К сожалению, России доводиться участвовать в реальных боевых действиях, с противником имеющим нехилое вооружение, поэтому такие выводы.
Если НЕ ДАЙ БОГ америка встрянет в войну с полноценным государством, я уверен, мы увидим мастер класс от американских лётчиков.
Мир тебе, американский Джон, от русского Ивана.
ОНИ И БЫЛИ ШКОЛА СССР
A russian pilot with SU-34 successfully evades a patriot missile, meanwhile a western trained Ukrainian pilot with F-16 did not and crashed August 2024.. is it Pilot skill difference, inferior aircraft, or both? 🙃
Stupid comparison. Russia has lost heaps of aircraft in Ukraine.
@@CommandT aww you gonna cry?
@@jcl4860He licks the west's boots and praises their CNN so not surprising that he would cry.
Россия тратит на вооружение 5.6% ввп если она выделит 30% она способна на многое.
Рф даже не заметила санкций половины мира.
Они становятся на военные рельса и разгоняются.
Вау… тебе нужно быть экономистом 🤦♂️
Did anyone noticed, there was Multiple Missile Launches on that Su-34 .. damn! Skilled pilot though..
@bikibora646 True, but he also had a very skilled A-50U AWACS operator for an angel that day. In fact, thanks to this video, I now learned an A-50U Beriev AWACS can track Patriot missiles in the air IN REAL TIME. 😱 Which is as awesome as it sounds from the efforts of that other guy helping the pilot with instructions.
@@StefanBlagojevic that's right.. but the su34 pilot was doing Most of the efforts by his own.. listen to it closely.. When the AWACS says to make an angle, the Su34 was already there in most of the times..
@@bikibora646 Respect to the pilot, hands down the man gave it his all and lived to tell about it.
@@StefanBlagojevicв качестве ДРЛО использовался Су-35
that's outstanding, evaded a missle using a huge bomber jet.
3 or even 4 missiles
@J_CART3R It was 3 missiles, but the Su-34 is a bomber that has maneuverability of a fighter jet, it is an impressive strike aircraft.
I believe it's an unique feeling of dread to be flying a combat aircraft and having a sophisticated killing device coming to kill you at high speed. It's not like a lion coming at you and you having to outrun it, it's much more complex than that: if your tech fails, if your knowledge fails, if your physical resistance fails, if your comm fails, if your situational awareness fails YOU ARE DEAD
You're flying for your life, crazy stuff
Sitting at my desk, I can feel the G's they're pulling.
SU 34 is a big jet, how it dodged the patriot shows its agility.
It fighter-bomber. Also patriot not a great anti-air, but still dangerous.
The other (earlier) version of this audio on RUclips gives a bit more context in the description - it says that, of 3 missiles launched against the Su-34, one was shot down by Russian AA systems, whilst the other two were defeated by the combination of countermeasures and notching.
Apparently the "cover aircraft" that alerted the Su-34 to the Patriot launch was able to fire off an anti-radiation missile, but it doesn't say whether it managed to hit the Patriot system.
@@trololoev No. Patriot is great but SU 34 is greater.
Where’s the source of this info out of curiosity, could you share?
@@tomfahey2823 that guy is a legend… like stroke 3
Amazing audio.. glad this pilot made it back to his family 🇨🇦💙
But the school children and the grocery store workers killed by the glide bombs didn't.
Fucking traitor
@@KSCPMark6742 can you confirm he did that or are you just talking
@@KSCPMark6742 Nonsense. all civilians are evacuated from the war zone.
@@KSCPMark6742 That is all fake news by western media.
Interesting video to hear this from the Russian side! Saw the F16 evading missiles so interesting to see the difference the two
Well... the f16 is a most agile and quiker plane, so a f16 would have it easier to evade missiles like this
@@tirsofelipeduranmendoza5432 Well but that would also mean the pilot would experience more G force
The su34 loses more energy while maintaining the same amount of Gs compared to the f16, thus making it harder to evade (I believe)
F-16 has better radar and electronics part, so it can see launches from further away. However, being only a single engine aircraft, it might struggle to run away from it. Su-34 is kinda opposite.
@KGAnims The f16 without ECM would have a very high chance of being shot down in this scenario, the 6 missile shot at the f16 were all Vietnam era and weren't in the right range
This is a translation of a video HlE1wo9i_NM from a Fighterbomber YT channel (channel is made by the Russian militay pilot). The video is called "Не сегодня..." ("Not today"). The original video does not have any footage as well, only audio.
For those who are wondering, here is a translation of the swearing that was cut off in the end:
- Phew f***
- Phew b**ch
- Aahhh f*** ahh my arm hurts [probably damaged his arm because of g-forses]
- Fuu f***ng f****ts
- SUCK [my or your own - unclear] F***NG LEGS!
(this last one is as uncommon in Russian as it is in English but it surely came from the heart)
"Suck my legs" is the same as "Suck my dick" but when you do not want to use swear words directly.
@@Ewan_Gaming Not exaclty. There is also an expressin in Russan "suck [your] paw" ("You will have to live with the consequences of your failure"). Like a bear could not procure food for himself and he is only left with an option to suck his paw, which bears are believed to do sometimes. So it is probably the mix of the two expressions.
to be correct, former military SU 34 Pilot who was retired shortly after beginning of the war. He was "grounded" by a doctor but he didn't talked about the reason on his telegram channel
@@717pixels9 Russians don't have that expression. There is an expression - suck a paw like a bear. That means getting nothing.
@@roman335i They didn't have Patriots in the beginning of the war.
Not even hollywood can reproduce this ❤🇷🇺
just a regular day for those guys, I'm surprised it became available for a public.
He survived, that's all what we must knew about Russian planes and pilots.
"the missile knows where it is"
Just shut up bro this is a joke sucked dry
@@deca0 - Cry harder the joke will always be funny
And it also knows where it isn't
@@homerogarcia3094 Precisely, bravo.
And I'm clinching my asshole when landing in a civilian airplane during bad weather as a passenger. Imagine this
dam. my heart racing. the breathing. the yelling. i was there! amazing!
Worth mentioning that this particular patriot battery were doomed right after that.
According to FB
yeah cause you would know this
Either got Arty striked or Anti rad? if its using its radar for that long it would tell the russian side where they are positioned at.
even the serbs learned not to turn their radars if they know there isnt a sortie knowing theyll get blown up before they can shoot a plane down.
@@ymroo8299 Islander, as I remember.
Patriot were glowing for too long, that's a price
@@ymroo8299
I remember from the telegram reports that there was also an Su-35 covering the Su-34 and used anti-radiaton missiles Kh-31P.
@@EYE_Bloodscallany link mate to that event?it would be awesome if i could read that.
I wish we had the video with it, that was surely intense and scary !
There’s no video to go with it as far as I know. Not at this point anyway
Animation?
@@MrSensx GoPro.
The most admirable thing is that this evasion maneuver has been done with a bomber, think that it is not a fighter, let alone an stealth fighter!
It's just a heavily modified flanker. It's a fighter bomber, btw.
СУ 35С ПОМОГАЛ РАДАРОМ
@@theeltea heavily modified flanker... exactly 😉
@@MegaPopilu It's really incredible and a unique aircraft. Back in early 2000's we used to call it after the Aussie "Platypus". To me it's kinda like a fat Flanker. Very maneuverable for a strike aircraft, basically the Russians managed to squeeze a bomber strike aircraft into an fighter chassis. I can only imagine how well it would maneuver if it had 3D vector thrust engine nozzles...
andrei put in one hell of a workout to get out of that shit
Good on the crew
Whilst we Westerners may find the manner of interaction disagreeable this is irrelevant. As a team ground and air quickly detected and reacted to the missile threat. Any who assume the Russians are in some way ‘stupid’ or too rigid in tactics should take note.
Сами вы "глупы", это вам на западе мозги промыли всякими баснями, что весь остальной мир, кроме западного - тупые... В итоге тупыми останетесь в своём надмении только вы)
This heavy breath was making everything even worse, because you can understand, that they are experiencing really high G loads.
“It is right to learn - even from the Enemy” - Ovid
Die Russen sind nicht unsere Feinde! Ich sehe die als Freunde.
Beautiful words
who's the enemy bro?
nothing better than swearing after undergoing a stressful situation
At this point Russian aircraft are by far the most combat proven. The US has never operated any aircraft in such a well defended airspace, so their claims remain to be seen.
bUt f22 iS tHE kiNG oF THe SKyees!!?? that has never been tested in real combat haha
@@Juho-uf8si hey, don't forget it has a kill against a weather balloon 🤣
doesn't mean they are dogsshit, they survived this encounter because of the pilot
@@soulfuII haha, no. The best pilot in the world wouldn't have survived that if he was flying a shit plane. Russia has been operating in an air space defended by the most modern western Air defenses for years now and they're very good at it. Sure every couple of months they'll lose a plane, but that's equivalent of losing one jet for every 1000+ sorties.
@@Juho-uf8siwell in 2017 4 F22 were in syrian space undetected.
Удивляет то - что он идет на боевой, самолет был с боезапасом, он ооочень тяжелый, это далеко не СУ-27, летчик показал высший пилотаж
It is made to able to dog fight with its entire load out. One of the only jet that is capable of doing something like that
He may have just dumped the ammo.
@@aapje yeah when the dude said "abort mission".
@@aapje Yeah because he had 4 500kg bombs. It's better run away from missiles without 2 tons under your wings.
Скорее всего,после слов «по вам ракета,работу запрещаю», они скинули груз и уходили на легке,ибо там такая функция есть,и как я думаю,они достаточно часто так делали.
Even Su-34 is agile enough to evade the Patriot missile. Which is far from hypersonic speed. Is the Patriot worth its price? I am not sure
It deterred it from a bomb drop and damaged it. Certainly not not worth it.
@@CommandT nah i think they released bombs before running there is no way they are flying like this with all that lol
@@CommandT Although the crew got the order from the AWACS to evacuate as soon as the Patriot started to fire 754 crew still delivered the ordonance before taking evasive manuvers !
That Patriot battery threw everything they had at him and JUST him, and they survived.. A detonation just behind them.. Probably why the intercom is damaged.. They took some of the specialized killer shrapnel.. Yet obviously no critical or other secondary alarm worthy systems hit..
This is absolutely amazing... That's one seriously good pilot and the navigator and controller were absolutely top notch as well.. That navigator, My God, he's one hardcore cold as ice under fire airman... His voice, even at the worst of it is clear, focused and disciplined. The pilot is obviously the more conceptual guy, which is absolutely critical as a pilot of any sort, much less a pilot fighting for his life against an advanced modern AA missile battery. That's why he is cursing as much as well.. Because in his mind he is clearly seeing how bad it was for them and the razors edge he needed to fly the plane through to survive.
We used to have aircrews like this in the U.S.. But now we've traded bad asses like these men for diversity quota political hires...
If the missile did actually damage the aircraft i highly doubt the only system knocked out would be the intercom, this was likely the pilots putting the plane trough higher than rated G forces which might have temporarily disabled some systems due to wires falling out etc from the force
@@speen9430 I might add, the canopy itself is actually an Armed Titanium tub. I don't know how much it protect, but it is better than paper, like F-16 is
@@Battlenude dude it's missile
SU-25 or A-10 wouldn't survive if they lose their wing, tail
Something missile love to destroy
@@SRDPS2 i mean, there was that one izraeli F-15 that landed with only one wing
ЭТО НАСЛЕДИЕ СССР РФ СОЗДАЕТ ВСЕ ЭТО ТОЛЬКО НЕ ДАВНО ПИЛОТУ НАДО ОКОЛО 20 ЛЕТ ЧТО БЫ ПОЛЕТЕТЬ НА СУ 34 35 35С 57 ЛЕТЧИКИ БУДУТ ГОТОВЫ НОВЫЕ К 2026
754 - Su-34 with "FABs"
813 - Su-35 with Kh-31P working as a cover for 754. His voice calls "Patriot i illuminating, egress"
And the ground officer, who tells headings, speed, altitudes, etc.
Do you have the source of this info? 👍
The situation I’m in when mom says dinners ready
Amazing it outmanuvered a patriot missile considering this is a slower and larger variant of the flanker.. What were its tactics? Chaff, ECM, full speed left? Pls explain somebody
su-34 is still pretty capable bird.
I'm not familiar exactly with all the details we heard in the audio.
But my best simple guess is this.
1. The controller notifies the Su-34 crew of a Patriot firing on them. Then immediately tells them to dive to a lower altitude and direction away from the missile. This puts more distance between the Su-34 and the missile itself, and drags the missile into thicker air to help slow the missile down.
2 the controller constant gives updates of directions of travel to the Crew likely causing to Su-34 to either be in full 'flight mode' where the Su-34 is constantly flying away from the missile, and or performing a notch maneuver at the same time.
Or making the Su-34 perform what could be called a 'gentle serpentine maneuver' forcing the missile to constantly turn and bleed speed (cause once the missile's speed drops below that of the target the missile is almost useless. The only real way the missile would still be useful at that point os if the target and the missile are flying directly or almost durectly at each other.)
3. The contant maneuvering however likely slowed the Su-34 down a bit as it is both a large aircraft and likely ladden with heavy munitions allowing the patriot missile to catch up.
However the Patriot missile either malfunctioned, set itself off early, or lost too much speed, or it's flight time 'expired' causing the Patriot to explode some distance behind the Su-34. The explosion was clearly far enough that it didn't do meaningful damage to the Su-34, and wasn't close enough to rattle the crew. But it was close enough to mess with their comms. Whether it was a lucky hit with shrapnel, or something else, it's clear the missile still got uncomfortably close.
4. The crew continue to fly away and assess the damage done. No complaints of loss of flight control is heard, just loss of comms, even their local comms (bring able to speak to the guy next to you).
5. That's basically what UlI took from the audio. I could easily be misinterpreting some things, but that's the best I've got at the moment.
@@Shadoweye12 thank you.. It was also said on the conversation that one missile just flew past by them.. It's navigation could be altered by the Khibiny ECM though.. but agaiin i dunno facts about the khibiny
Likely is a combination of tactics.. and not just one thing. What is clear is that they try to full the missile or its operators? to think the plane is moving in one direction to the right and then when missile was 30km near ,full dodge to the left and then full speed. So that Su-34 if other guy comments are correct dodge no less than 2 patriot missiles with help of Russian ground radars operators. and a third one was intercepted by Russian air defenses. That was pretty awesome performance by Russian airforce and radars Guys. All work together to save the Su-34. The experience this pilots learned will be used to train future generations of pilots.
Su-34 is akin to a F15E. Fat and heavy, but it is still capable.
Radar guided missiles track based on echolocation of radar. Data gained by the echo is run through an algorithm that predicts the path of the target and the missile adjusts itself to maintain a lead for interception
Generally how you defeat radar guided missiles is to place your flight path exactly 90 degrees to the missile so you appear as a static object. This reduces the missiles ability to predict change in distance and degrades its ability to track effectively.
Older missiles such as the ones in Ukraine lack certain features that overcome these kind of shortfalls in more modern variants.
Command is updating the pilot with the heading and direction of the missile so the pilot can put himself on a 90 degree vector before dropping low and running so the missile gets dragged into denser air near the surface.
Missiles only burn for a short while before relying in inertia to carry them to the target.
If you can get low, dragging missiles through dense air bleeds off their inertia faster before they loose enough that you can outrun them
Holy Crap! That was so intense, I almost crapped MY pants!
Holy smoke! thx for uploading this, it was so intense
Если ракета была замечена запущенной в истребитель с такого большого расстояния, было очень легко уклониться от нее. Да, я знаю, о чем говорю. Если бы она была выпущена с гораздо более близкого расстояния, не имея достаточно времени, чтобы распознать ее приближение, было бы очень сложно предпринять действия по уклонению. Поскольку приближающаяся ракета была так далеко, истребитель мог бы просто убежать прямо от ракеты и не беспокоиться, ракета никогда бы его не достигла. В любом случае, когда приближается ракета радарного типа, вы всегда, ВСЕГДА должны лететь очень немедленно как можно ближе к земле, по возможности на уровне деревьев, а также на меньшей скорости и по возможности перпендикулярно радару системы обороны или радару ракеты. Таким образом, радар может очень быстро потерять захват целей, которые находятся в десятках километров и которые летят низко. Попробуйте эту тактику с подготовкой и осторожностью, и вы всегда будете в безопасности. Я румынский инженер-авиаконструктор и пилот с достаточно хорошими знаниями, чтобы быть полезным. Да восхвалят вас Бог, Святая Троица, собратья православные летчики, и Он защитит вас в небе. В отличие от других румын, которых Запад очень плохо убеждает и лжет, я хотел бы помочь вам победить это зло, наше общее зло! Ваш, Андрей.
прекрасные слова, здоровья Вам!
Я думаю, Вы правы. 👍Тут, наверное, большее восхищение вызывает то, как слаженно работали ребята на радаре с теми, кто за штурвалом. Вы сказали: "..истребитель мог бы просто убежать..", но это не истребитель, а фронтовой бомбер.. хоть и достаточно манёвренный, но тяжёлый (учитывая, что шёл на боевой вылет, то очень тяжёлый, наверное) и это несколько усложняет задачу. Да и в любом случае, это, я думаю, очень стрессовая ситуация.
@@kkrevprod
Спасибо и вам! Я только надеюсь, что Россия не будет слишком суровой к Румынии за то, что ее жалкие правители (вроде тех, что на Украине) делают от ее имени. Добрые чувства к вам и слава Господу.
@@HiiragiKagami
Истребитель-бомбардировщик все еще остается истребителем и в любую секунду, если пилоту это нужно, может сбросить боезапас для лучшего ускорения. Но я могу вам точно сказать, что на расстоянии 70-80 км, даже полностью загруженный оружием, если этот истребитель отвернется на 180 градусов от ракеты, ракета никогда его не догонит, просто потому, что скорость истребителя увеличивается, а скорость ракеты уменьшается. Я знаю, это может показаться странным, но я играл и тренировался в DCS (Digital Combat Simulator, изначально созданный русскими), и поскольку он довольно реалистично имитирует максимальную дальность ракет класса «земля-воздух», а также характеристики самолетов, я смог убежать от Patriot даже с расстояния 40 км, и ракета приближалась ко мне все медленнее и медленнее, пока не достигла меня. То, как я описал вариант убегания, доказуемо. С уважением! Андрей.
@@Maverickf22flyer Я не спорю... Я лишь говорю, что это может усложнить задачу, не более. Опять же, стрессовая ситуация, где нужно принимать решения быстро. Эти люди явно сталкиваются с опасными моментами не в первый раз.
That's what I miss most in DCS: in the game you are on your own. Only Awacs to tell you BRAA, but in RL people on the ground help you, talk to you, give you instructions.
Also: the absolute monumental physical stress when trying to evade a SAM is effin intense!
Damn good flying from the Russians.
This is scary af. I would just eject from the jet as soon as I heard "its tracking you!"
Well that’s not very sportsmen like
Me on the toilet
The SU-34 actually has an onboard toilet.
well its canonically accurate since SU 34 has an onboard toilet 😂
Someone gets it!
Sam here 😂🎉❤
lmao,
wait i think i know you.
The argggh and The silence meanwhile GForces and Patriots are Blasting in front ur eyes, shows how professional they are.
God Bless every single man in The earth.
❤
Андрюха красавчик
It just goes to show the controller's skills is the pilots life saver!
1. Kiss ground. 2. Change shorts 3. Retire
How the hell did it survive 4 Patriot missiles?! I can only imagine the G's he has to pull for this.
because it was most likely a S-300 and not a patriot.
They got out of range , just , it was patriot, they aren't mythical
@@DrGreenThumbNZL true they arnt mystical, but the guy got locked onto at 60km when a patirot would lock onto it well over 100km, not to mention that proxy fuze is sintthing the pac-3 doesnt have, but its also still more than likely a s300 fact that ukraine has very few patriot systems, the russians out there saying they got shot at by a zebra when its just a normal horse.
According to former USMC marine Scott Ritter, Patriot isn't that good AA as media shows it to ordinary people.
@@TheOriginukIt isn't about max Range stupid. If you could apply maximum range on every radar and missile, then the Su-34 would have been detected earlier and he would face missile earlier as well. It could be a various of reasons this did not happen. Real time war is dynamic, not some game event
SU 34 MAXIMUM SPEED 2,200 km/h (MACH2) VS Patriot missile SPEED MACH5 If you survive you are among the best pilots in the world.
This is an oversimplification and a stupid statement. Any SAM fired at maximum range can be defeated even by a Cessna. Circumstances are important.
@CommandT so why no army or air force in the world use Cessna for high risk mission where SAM missiles are deployed? Don't dream please!!! Cessna in a sam deployed zone= Abattoir aka slaughtering mission.Stop selling wind to people.
That was some Laszlo level g force handling
More intense than any horror movies I've seen 💀
Patriot missiles , yes 3 of them, failed to intercept one jet should have been your headline !
Well that's war, everything is working at its limit and is based on big numbers.
The whole recording is highly tense, you listen to it with twitching muscles. And here 4:29 springs a spontaneous light of sublime humanity! Amazing recording, thanks!
Do you know Russian? Since the translation "Come on, brother" doesn't even convey all the nuances...
@@ILK441 Although it is somewhat obvious, I would like to know exactly what you mean, that this expression does not fit at that moment?
@@MegaPopilu This expression is generally appropriate for that moment, but "братишка" (not "брат", i.e. "brother") is a diminutive (affectionate) form. Not being an expert in English, I guess the word like "bro" would be closer.
Now, you should put the videos of the patriot vs. Iskander. Of course the patriot does not survive in that.
iskander is very inaccurate
@@hirsm Maybe yes, maybe not. I wonder where you heard that. Probably in Kyiv Independent (or some other media that draws from there). But you still haven't said anything about the videos of the Patriots being blown into smiterens by the Russian defense. This week there have only been three en Kursk.
@@nicolaslopez2662 Russia has been caught using old videos several times recently, and only one of the batteries is clearly authentic and the others are probable decoys. Like why would Ukraine put SAM site on the middle of a field. Ukraine is in an offensive phase at kharkiv and due to the stretching of the front lines, the sam sites have to be placed close to AO anyway. Russia simultaneously lost 3 s300/s400 batteries to atacms 2 months ago so similar incidents have happened before. If you're going to keep practicing OSINT, i recommend you to check the news from more than one source before sharing propaganda material from a disinformation outlet with malicious intent..
Three recent videos have appeared in the last two days. Two with Patriot batteries and one with Iris-T. Everything is there as you like - air defense missile launches, Iskander arrivals, secondary detonation...
@@hirsmno your statement is.
all pilot will be scared knowing you might get hit and die this war really need to end 😢
True!
Vous avez raison, il est temps d'y mettre les terme à cette guerre fratricide qui n'a que trop duré. Beaucoup de personnes ont mortes pour rien. Chaque vie comptent que ça les russes ou les Ukrainiens. Une génération sacrifiée pour des raisons qui les dépassent.😢😢😢
Well they are fighter pilots. Its their job lmao.
@@niksonrex88 Their job being to kill others and risk dying themselves because your government said so. This war is pointless and only serves the interests of the government and other powerful entities, while their citizens have to suffer the consequences.
@@niksonrex88Doesn't mean they don't value their lives. I'm on the training path to be an air force pilot (hopefully fighters) and I have no plans of dying or getting shot down.
The skill of this pilot, evading patriot missiles with a bomber.
"It's not the plane. It's the pilot."
Both side are on the same pages
Обычно от ракет класса типа патриот очень сложно уйти любому современному истребителю.. Но большая часть работы это мастерство летчиков
Tak samo jak od waszych typu S300/400/500.
❤🇷🇺
Incredible communication between those guys.
Russian pilots are amazing..😮😮
Being a pilot is a lot more scary than it’s made out to be
This is very easy I do the same on my Playstation 3 every day in Ace Combat.
Спасибо за перевод! Но финальную фразу надо было таки оставить :D
Я не хотел ввязывать эмоции. Хотел перевести всё техническое только.
@@CommandT , вы гражданин России, Украины или третьей страны? Вроде пишете хорошо по-русски, но не чувствую, что он вам родной. Более того, по переводу есть ощущение, что и английский язык вам не родной тоже. Поясню интерес: возможно, возникнет необходимость в переводе другого подобного ролика.
For 6 minutes, the overload is 6-7.5 G, ordinary people lose consciousness in 30 seconds at 3-4 G, the pilots moved their arms with their heads, legs, when their weight was 600-750 kilograms, this is a titanic huge effort, the pilot’s arm hurt, he switched to afterburner, he broke his arm, the pilot is a top-class professional, there are very few such pilots. Tom Cruise is baby 👶.
How do you know how many Gs they pulled?
Hopefully someone can overlay the missile and plane information on DCS to make an animation of the event (with audio). Would help a lot and be really cool too.
I did a short version until more information shows up. I surprised by how many wants the same on DCS
This is all electronic warfare. That just shows you how crazy their technology is getting.
The pilots don't even care for visual confirmation. They're just going to egress out fast as possible.
just wondering why there no RWR form the su-34 it self. ( TWS lunches form patriot or AESE Radar ??) and how the controller know this inforamtion ? is he in A-50 ?
shit equipment
Su-34 has basic RWR “in the plane” and more advanced in the Khibiny wing pods. The problem is that it can’t see the launch as long as missile is on TWS guidance. They get constantly “spiked” by different radars, so it is not wise to react to any signal as a missile launch. The controller might be anyone, a local Su-30SM1 WSO who sees missiles and Su-34 on his radar, might be an A-50, might be from a ground station, as they are pretty common in the area.
I hope my explanation is satisfactory. Hello from Mariupol!
Because its RWR sucks and cant deal with a somewhat modern LPI radar using TVM for the guidance.
@@freakmusicaddict K bud I wouldn't go around saying things suck like that. Lemme see you build an RWR.
@@JonahDyer facts
Impressionante como esse piloto russo conseguiu escapar de tantos mísseis. Muita habilidade, avião incrível e apoio de terra excelente. Parabéns a todos e volte para abraçar a sua família GUERREIRO 🙏🙏🙏
You removed the most important part in any Russian voicechat: the swearing.
theres just so many comments full of hatred, cant you just stop and just give respect that the pilot is a fucking badass? thats fucking impressive no matter the nationality
Even if it not near s-300 level, it still dangerous, su-34 is a bomber after all.
Bomber but he can fight with combat jets (fighters), he have a speed and maneuverability!!! Greetings from Serbia!!! 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
Su-34 is "Jambo fighter" and bomber!!!
@@danicao.6778Still way to big for S-300 last version. If this is real audio then it proves that Patriot is obsolete as anti air especially against much faster targets then simple fighter jet is.
@@The_Touring_Jedi and Ukraine don't have S-300PMU2 they have just oldest types S-300P and more oldest!!! Old analogue garbage!!!
@@danicao.6778 That was my point. It means Patriot is obsolete even in compare to S-300MU2.
that breathing....
amazing clip
There is a good handful of missiles I would REALLY not want tracking me in kill range, but the Patriot is definitely in the Top 3
Its more likely it was an S-300 rather than a patriot, Pac-3s are kentic kill weapons and those are the ones ukraine have, plus the patriot would have fired at this at over 100km not 60 and its very very unlikely at 60 the plane would live, or even detect the missile, so more than likely based on the fact that the missiles proxy fuze whent off, 60km lock on and the guy not being dead, its S-300, and if its not a s-300 its maybe a NASAM but not a Patriot, this is basicly the russians calling everything a "tiger" when there is a like less than 1% chance it is one.
@@TheOriginukcoping so hard in these comments lmfaooo
That was scary!!
Interesting. I wonder how the intercom was damaged/not working
Perhaps due to the G-Forces
Russian telegram channels also reported that for completing the combat mission (bombs were dropped on the target) and successfully avoiding the enemy missile and saving the aircraft, the crew was awarded the Order of Courage.
You literally made this up. The controller tells them to abort the combat mission lmao
@@dankengine5304 I think that was their point. Heavy emphasis on the "Russian telegram channels reported..."
No, it was informed in russian tg channels. Maybe they managed to drop a couple of bombs and had to work on the remaining ones for another target. I could only guess. And whether to believe Russian military channels or not is up to everyone to decide for themselves.
And a free bottle of Wodka.
@rogeronslow1498 Why not, after that glorious day))
I probably took 2 short breaths watching this...one thing is clear, Patriot is no joke, it fired from a very long way off, the dude defended like there was no tomorrow (rightfully so) still the missile barely missed. Damn!