I think the traditional methods produced a craftsman who was more in touch with the wood and nature, whereas the newer stuff only produces a faster woodworker. My opinion. Great video, I loved it.
Bargain Boondocker not to mention how expensive that planer is ...but you also have to know how to use either or you can screw up whatever you are working on in hurry
I like both, old school for relaxing in the shop, new school to get it done. I think everyone should learn the old school, to learn to be precise by hand then you can work to the precision of the new. Subscribed
For me, I think there's value in both methods - but would lean towards the new school 95% of the time. Hand planes are great for small, personal projects like a jewelry box for a loved one - while on larger, less personal projects - I just throw those boards through the planer/jointer and get it done. Basically - it's like how I view candles - I have power in my house so I use LED bulbs all the time, but sometimes a candle is nicer.
Thanks Andy, I have to say I also prefer the silent sounds of the wood.. Its simple, focused, and refreshing. Thanks for being above the crowd, I enjoy every minute, and please know that you come highly recommend because of your style..
Wana know why you have over 60000 subscribers (me included)? You don't have obnoxiously repetitive music in the background. You don't speed up the process by 10x You have good resolution in your videos You have a beautiful voice (when you talk) and you let your work do the talking for you.
Thank you so much for getting in touch with the way work was done a long time ago. It's definitely a craft that's worth keeping alive. I only now realize that is what my father did. Thank you for this experience.
The machine is faster but the traditional way has to be more personally satisfying and a lot more enjoyable to watch. You are a true craftsman, I've now watched all of your content and I'm looking forward to many more videos.
Your just so pure in your video making process which I wouldn't expect from a new creator but I love all your videos so far and will continue to show support for an amazing creator :) you do you!
I know practically nothing about woodworking and find your videos extremely interesting. I do wish you would explain some of the steps you are going through. I love it. You could explain it to your dog if you need someone to talk to! 😀 😁
Love the hands on methods in all kinds of wood work ......I have to say new school is just a faster way with the same results ........ keep killing it bro one love
Hey im a student from the UK who found your channel as a method to understand some processes, its been really helpful and great to hear what you have to say. Also the style of your videos is really pleasant to watch, simplistic and bare. Keep up the good work!
The fact that you can use both methods is fantastic! Using the traditional tools needs to be seen and taught more. I feel it creates a lot more respect for what is being made! l find watching your videos VERY relaxing! I'm proud & honored to be a subscriber! For the record, you'd be even busier than you are now if l lived there because I adore your work.
All of your videos have such high quality, and are an enjoyment to watch. I don't know anything about your craft, but all of the videos are just so good. Well done!
It's a LOT of work to do that by hand, and takes a lot of time. Props for a) knowing how, and b) actually doing it (even if it's for demonstrative purposes). I'll stick with my jointer and planer for now, but please keep making these vids.
I do woodworking as a hobby, been doing it for many years now, at first I thought I'd only use the traditional method, I thought of it as something really neat and also a good workout, I did have a table saw and a bench drill at the moment......later I ended up buying a 6 inch jointer planer...wow !!!!! no more sweating...so much faster !!!! cannot go back, it's like when I traded my stick shift car for an automatic gear box one...my biceps are not as big anymore since I got the jointer planer, but heck, I'm using my home gym again with my wife. Thanks for your awesome videos man !!!!!!
I'd have to say that the old traditional is in a way a little better that the new school because you take ur time and really think about what your doing you also grow patients a lot and your experience grows so much so that one day if you don't have power tools you wont be worried at all man love this channel and also that dog is just chilling XD
Great vids keep, making them, this is one of the few channels I make a point to see every new post. your vids are relaxing to watch and makes one want to learn a craft.
I really enjoyed the video. I just found your channel tonight and of course I subscribed. I love the old way and use it as much as I can. Thank for sharing.
I feel like, you not talking makes the video more original, not telling us what you are going to make, is much better, and relaxing. I watch your videos when I need to realease my stress from College, and I prefer your quiet work.
Having trued 1,000's of board feet of lumber by hand..... new school. My thickness planer changed my life. I send stock thru the thicknesser, then micro-tune it with a hand plane.
I use a 90yr old Bailey 5-1/2C along with a Veritas no 4 and a Veritas low angle block plane. I have a thickness planer as well as a flat bed sander and a jointer . However if you get into woodworking with power tool you soon learn that they only go so far and you still need the hand tools. They are faster as well for smaller jobs and much easier to clean up after. I recently rescued a Record 078 and picked up a Veritas shoulder plane on an imperfect sale. Sometimes used stuff sells as "vintage" and can be more expensive than newer, much better hand planes. They all work and have worked for decades.
I love seeing the wood get made, old school style. But tbh, the only thing i could see it being good for, is the bragging right, or for the learning experience. I would always choose the modern style over the old, even though i would love to try and learn the old style, maybe make something for a family member doing it old style way. Great video!
you should make a bunch of little wooden circles with your initials so we can buy them and help support your chanel plus it would be awesome to have something you made
Andy, could you possibly create a video on your process of sharpening your chisels and planers? I know it's uncomfortable to talk to a camera, but I find you very clear and to the point. Just some tips for a beginner woodworker? Thanks, Mike
"incredibly awkward talking to the camera in a shop by myself". Welcome to my life, hah! Great video man. I think hand tools are super sexy and fun to use, but it's hard to use them when trying to make money producing furniture, etc. P.S. had some Mogwai on in the background while watching this video and man, it was the perfect soundtrack. So relaxing.
i think the key is a mix of both. and i only have very limited experience with blacksmithing to base this next statement on but i believe knowing and regularly practicing doing it the traditional way gives you a much better eye for detail and lets you know how to correct errors. while modern methods allow you to finish project quickly and get a more consistent product. knowing when to implement these two methods is what will make your work stand out. for instance if someone tells me that they want a knife i'm not going to spend most of my time drawing out the steel with a traditional hammer if i have an power hammer available. instead i'll use the power hammer to get me the basic shape i need, then i can spend my time looking over the fine details. then again what the client wants supersedes what i want to do, if a patron wants a sword done in a traditional style and is willing to pay for it, then i'll do it traditionally.
“Aw bruh left my camera in here filming all night, guess I’ll pick it up and start talking.” Haha just kidding man, I love your videos and cinematography. It’s so refreshing and meditative to watch; you’re an inspiration to me as a budding woodworker. Keep up the great videos.
Hello from Argentina, this is a best chanell i can see on RUclips, i like whit you make the vidios, is very cool. I need see more videos for long time, great job!
You deserve the subs. Your videos are very well shot and edited. Also, if you don't like to talk to the camera, just put the extra thoughts in the description of the video. Just look at the Primitive Technology channel on RUclips, he does a bunch of stuff with 0 talking and leaves any extra info people might want in the description. Personally I don't mind a bit of talking but I feel like you do the "silent" thing so well. Anyway keep up the good work, can't wait to see more ;)
I don't have a jointer, so if I have a twisted board, I try to flatten one side with hand planes. Then I will run it through the planer to bring the other side flat and co-planar. I have a jig so I can true edges on the table saw. So I manage to get by. It just sometimes takes longer. Wood working is doing its best to teach me patience.
wow that combination machine is a beast! I have a jointer and a planer and also hand planes...i do a board by hand once in a while just for the fun but most projects i consider milling to be grunt work and send em over the machines. The recent interest in all hand tool work is great because it gets more people doing more handwork which is fun. However...all handwork can be tedious!!....I wouldnt want to watch tom fidgen build a run of chairs or a fence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh dont be afraid to talk you did just fine.
what the hell was that thing....didn't even know it existed. I thought I wanted a jointer/thicknesser now I want one of those hahaha awesome video as always!
I like doing hand-cut joinery but dimensioning lumber by hand is tedious. you've gathered a following quickly because you've put out well made videos and you have a ton of skill. I've really enjoyed every video you've put out.
First if I have one tip if you are going to hold the camera and point it at you hold it higher it just makes it look better. Also love your videos and thanks for showing older techniques! Also how do u get so many camera angles with audio so Synced up?
For sure the old school is the best ever ... Of course the machine is faster but there are some crafts that can't be made by it ... Other wise both crafts look the same but the one who's hand made seems great!
Horses for courses I say. If you need to mill a lot of rough sawn timber you can spend all day every day with hand planes as opposed to a few hours with a machine. In many cases I think the lack of skill will make woodworkers choose the machines, which makes reasonable woodworking accessible to the less, or non skilled woodworker. Then there is the question of efficiency. If you live by doing any kind of production style woodworking you cannot really do without the machines, but if you do artsy and customised woodworking then it is certainly an added charm if the entire process is being done by hand, in which case cutting down of the tree, and the rough milling, could also be done by hand. It will take forever and ever tough, but if you are not in a hurry that is not a problem.
Modern is great as long as the lights don't go out. Oh and i'm sure you have to sharpen the monster planer, how long would that take? Either way good stuff……and thanks for the video!
this youtube channel is the most relaxing thing ever
Do you know "Primitive technology" channel? If not, definitely try it out! Similar type of relaxation.
Meg.A. Byte both definetely should deserve way more subs than what they have now. slowly but surely!
TheBigsteve713 i completely agree... This is so relaxing
TheBigsteve713 same
TheBigsteve713 agreed
I think the traditional methods produced a craftsman who was more in touch with the wood and nature, whereas the newer stuff only produces a faster woodworker.
My opinion.
Great video, I loved it.
Agreed!
Bargain Boondocker Also the traditional is a bit more pleasant to watch in my own opinion
by far :)
Bargain Boondocker not to mention how expensive that planer is ...but you also have to know how to use either or you can screw up whatever you are working on in hurry
I heard or read this somewhere else.
All modern power woodworking tools do is allow me to make mistakes a lot faster.
Old school lets you discover the character of the wood. New school just efficiently shapes it. I appreciate your skill and videos.
The world needs more people like you andy.
I like both, old school for relaxing in the shop, new school to get it done. I think everyone should learn the old school, to learn to be precise by hand then you can work to the precision of the new. Subscribed
For me, I think there's value in both methods - but would lean towards the new school 95% of the time. Hand planes are great for small, personal projects like a jewelry box for a loved one - while on larger, less personal projects - I just throw those boards through the planer/jointer and get it done. Basically - it's like how I view candles - I have power in my house so I use LED bulbs all the time, but sometimes a candle is nicer.
Wow, that 4- sided planer is quite the gadget!
Yeah I thought he was gonna flatten on the counter then a edge then plane ! Haha then he comes out with this thing
I love the naturalness of your videos.
Thanks Andy, I have to say I also prefer the silent sounds of the wood.. Its simple, focused, and refreshing. Thanks for being above the crowd, I enjoy every minute, and please know that you come highly recommend because of your style..
Wana know why you have over 60000 subscribers (me included)?
You don't have obnoxiously repetitive music in the background.
You don't speed up the process by 10x
You have good resolution in your videos
You have a beautiful voice (when you talk) and you let your work do the talking for you.
nuff said
Thank you so much for getting in touch with the way work was done a long time ago. It's definitely a craft that's worth keeping alive. I only now realize that is what my father did. Thank you for this experience.
A dog, and we have the hole package. I love this. Thanks for sharing Andy.
Thanks for the Hand tool love! youtube needs more of that.
I think you need to send him a panel gauge at 6:26
The machine is faster but the traditional way has to be more personally satisfying and a lot more enjoyable to watch. You are a true craftsman, I've now watched all of your content and I'm looking forward to many more videos.
Your just so pure in your video making process which I wouldn't expect from a new creator but I love all your videos so far and will continue to show support for an amazing creator :) you do you!
Plus you did a good job fixing your video super quick so yeah! :D
Think he had coaching from Matt from Demo/Vet Ranch
Manic Miner This guy's an original.
keep up the good work, I enjoy your pure video, no talking, no music. using video to show and express is way better than talking
I know practically nothing about woodworking and find your videos extremely interesting. I do wish you would explain some of the steps you are going through. I love it. You could explain it to your dog if you need someone to talk to! 😀 😁
Love the hands on methods in all kinds of wood work ......I have to say new school is just a faster way with the same results ........ keep killing it bro one love
Your videos are awesome ! Craftsmanship speaks for itself , so talk or not and it will be good to watch
Watching you reminds me of my dad (in a very good way, but not like you're old) he always had a specific place for everything in his shop.
didn't think id watch a wood working video with such an emphasis on cinematography :)
Hey im a student from the UK who found your channel as a method to understand some processes, its been really helpful and great to hear what you have to say. Also the style of your videos is really pleasant to watch, simplistic and bare. Keep up the good work!
The fact that you can use both methods is fantastic! Using the traditional tools needs to be seen and taught more. I feel it creates a lot more respect for what is being made! l find watching your videos VERY relaxing! I'm proud & honored to be a subscriber! For the record, you'd be even busier than you are now if l lived there because I adore your work.
As somebody who works in a flooring Mill making hardwood flooring I use a surfacer everyday. Loved seeing the old school stuff!
All of your videos have such high quality, and are an enjoyment to watch. I don't know anything about your craft, but all of the videos are just so good. Well done!
I'm really enjoy to watch and learn more about how to deal with the woods . Thanks
glad to know you're not mute; the quiet videos have put me to sleep on many an occasion
I'm so chill right now I can't I just can't. Love watching the videos keep them coming. Really enjoy when you carve
It's a LOT of work to do that by hand, and takes a lot of time. Props for a) knowing how, and b) actually doing it (even if it's for demonstrative purposes). I'll stick with my jointer and planer for now, but please keep making these vids.
I do woodworking as a hobby, been doing it for many years now, at first I thought I'd only use the traditional method, I thought of it as something really neat and also a good workout, I did have a table saw and a bench drill at the moment......later I ended up buying a 6 inch jointer planer...wow !!!!! no more sweating...so much faster !!!! cannot go back, it's like when I traded my stick shift car for an automatic gear box one...my biceps are not as big anymore since I got the jointer planer, but heck, I'm using my home gym again with my wife. Thanks for your awesome videos man !!!!!!
I'd have to say that the old traditional is in a way a little better that the new school because you take ur time and really think about what your doing you also grow patients a lot and your experience grows so much so that one day if you don't have power tools you wont be worried at all man love this channel and also that dog is just chilling XD
Its amazing how much work and skill goes into hand milling the lumber vs using the machine.
Your videos are so relaxing. They're great.
The way you do things the old style is so cool I would love to learn how to do that
Great vids keep, making them, this is one of the few channels I make a point to see every new post. your vids are relaxing to watch and makes one want to learn a craft.
You are an artist by far. Great wood working skills. Beautiful dog by the way... look forward to your videos.
Absolutely love this channel. Also this video really makes you respect those who do that stuff by hand. Good stuff man!
I deeply value someone who can appreciate silence. Great video !
Well done and I will take the old school method every time.
Andy the only people who will subscribe are those that see any of your videos. You sir are a great craftsman and I'm so glad I found your channel!
You are a master of editing and camera angles
I really enjoyed the video. I just found your channel tonight and of course I subscribed. I love the old way and use it as much as I can. Thank for sharing.
Favorite you tube channel
Your plane process was really cool to see.
Don't know if either one is better than the other. The modern is just faster. Depends on your motivation, I guess.
As you get older machines are great help !
I feel like, you not talking makes the video more original, not telling us what you are going to make, is much better, and relaxing. I watch your videos when I need to realease my stress from College, and I prefer your quiet work.
Watching these videos where you are shy of talking to the camera is so hilarious. Now you are very comfortable with talking to the camera.
can i just say that your editing skills are amazing?? like all the jump cuts that you do between camera angles are so so cool
One of my favourite channel now
😂 keep the Dog around 👍
Having trued 1,000's of board feet of lumber by hand..... new school. My thickness planer changed my life. I send stock thru the thicknesser, then micro-tune it with a hand plane.
I use a 90yr old Bailey 5-1/2C along with a Veritas no 4 and a Veritas low angle block plane. I have a thickness planer as well as a flat bed sander and a jointer . However if you get into woodworking with power tool you soon learn that they only go so far and you still need the hand tools. They are faster as well for smaller jobs and much easier to clean up after. I recently rescued a Record 078 and picked up a Veritas shoulder plane on an imperfect sale. Sometimes used stuff sells as "vintage" and can be more expensive than newer, much better hand planes. They all work and have worked for decades.
I love seeing the wood get made, old school style. But tbh, the only thing i could see it being good for, is the bragging right, or for the learning experience. I would always choose the modern style over the old, even though i would love to try and learn the old style, maybe make something for a family member doing it old style way.
Great video!
Enjoyed the video. I can appreciate both methods.
I'm from Indonesia and I love your videos! 👏👏
you should make a bunch of little wooden circles with your initials so we can buy them and help support your chanel plus it would be awesome to have something you made
love your video's and I really love wood work
Old School looked a lot better in my opinion...
Very nice very cool....
Magicman0430 and more satisfying to make
Andy, could you possibly create a video on your process of sharpening your chisels and planers? I know it's uncomfortable to talk to a camera, but I find you very clear and to the point. Just some tips for a beginner woodworker? Thanks,
Mike
actually like when u talk helps me know more about it
Dude! Great demo! Thanks from Abilene, TX.
old school is art for soul
Ritvik Agnihotri Perfectly said the definition.
"incredibly awkward talking to the camera in a shop by myself". Welcome to my life, hah! Great video man. I think hand tools are super sexy and fun to use, but it's hard to use them when trying to make money producing furniture, etc.
P.S. had some Mogwai on in the background while watching this video and man, it was the perfect soundtrack. So relaxing.
Crafted Workshop d
Do you personally change the camera angle every time or do you just have that many cameras lying around
change the angle using one camera
Love your channel. Will apprentice for food.
i think the key is a mix of both. and i only have very limited experience with blacksmithing to base this next statement on but i believe knowing and regularly practicing doing it the traditional way gives you a much better eye for detail and lets you know how to correct errors. while modern methods allow you to finish project quickly and get a more consistent product. knowing when to implement these two methods is what will make your work stand out.
for instance if someone tells me that they want a knife i'm not going to spend most of my time drawing out the steel with a traditional hammer if i have an power hammer available. instead i'll use the power hammer to get me the basic shape i need, then i can spend my time looking over the fine details.
then again what the client wants supersedes what i want to do, if a patron wants a sword done in a traditional style and is willing to pay for it, then i'll do it traditionally.
Bloody hell, 3 years later and another 400k subs 👍
“Aw bruh left my camera in here filming all night, guess I’ll pick it up and start talking.” Haha just kidding man, I love your videos and cinematography. It’s so refreshing and meditative to watch; you’re an inspiration to me as a budding woodworker. Keep up the great videos.
Hello from Argentina, this is a best chanell i can see on RUclips, i like whit you make the vidios, is very cool.
I need see more videos for long time, great job!
love everything you post can't wait for more
Me personally I love modern because it's faster and more efficient but old school is also pretty useful too. But overall I choose modern.
That was a great comparison. I do sort of a hybrid milling with planes and then my planer for final thicknessing.
These How to build blank videos are so cool😂😂😂😂
You deserve the subs. Your videos are very well shot and edited.
Also, if you don't like to talk to the camera, just put the extra thoughts in the description of the video. Just look at the Primitive Technology channel on RUclips, he does a bunch of stuff with 0 talking and leaves any extra info people might want in the description. Personally I don't mind a bit of talking but I feel like you do the "silent" thing so well.
Anyway keep up the good work, can't wait to see more ;)
Maybe a side business for you: Bag up those wood chips, etc. & sell them for fire starters. Like for camping or even fire places. Nice video.
he talked!!!😃 great channel keep it up.
Most satisfying video in the world
that place must smell so good
I don't have a jointer, so if I have a twisted board, I try to flatten one side with hand planes. Then I will run it through the planer to bring the other side flat and co-planar. I have a jig so I can true edges on the table saw. So I manage to get by. It just sometimes takes longer. Wood working is doing its best to teach me patience.
wow that combination machine is a beast! I have a jointer and a planer and also hand planes...i do a board by hand once in a while just for the fun but most projects i consider milling to be grunt work and send em over the machines. The recent interest in all hand tool work is great because it gets more people doing more handwork which is fun. However...all handwork can be tedious!!....I wouldnt want to watch tom fidgen build a run of chairs or a fence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh dont be afraid to talk you did just fine.
Love the content AR. Keep it up
Great video... New school is faster but cost a lot. Old school is a lot cheaper and healthier :)
I like your videos a lot man plz keep making them!
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you.
old school everrr !!
what the hell was that thing....didn't even know it existed. I thought I wanted a jointer/thicknesser now I want one of those hahaha awesome video as always!
Awesome video, Andy!! :)
hes living my dream of owning a woodworking shop
working with and planer is a real sport
I like doing hand-cut joinery but dimensioning lumber by hand is tedious.
you've gathered a following quickly because you've put out well made videos and you have a ton of skill. I've really enjoyed every video you've put out.
First if I have one tip if you are going to hold the camera and point it at you hold it higher it just makes it look better. Also love your videos and thanks for showing older techniques! Also how do u get so many camera angles with audio so Synced up?
brilliant video. amazing. keep it up!
If I was working on a project, I'd do it with that cool monster but if I was just watching you I'd prefer to see you use those traditional tools ;)
The breaker label made my day
Damn! that s4s wadkin is rad.
that's crazy how fast it was!
I liked this video because it was the first time ive ever seen him talk😂😂😂😂
For sure the old school is the best ever ... Of course the machine is faster but there are some crafts that can't be made by it ... Other wise both crafts look the same but the one who's hand made seems great!
Horses for courses I say. If you need to mill a lot of rough sawn timber you can spend all day every day with hand planes as opposed to a few hours with a machine. In many cases I think the lack of skill will make woodworkers choose the machines, which makes reasonable woodworking accessible to the less, or non skilled woodworker. Then there is the question of efficiency. If you live by doing any kind of production style woodworking you cannot really do without the machines, but if you do artsy and customised woodworking then it is certainly an added charm if the entire process is being done by hand, in which case cutting down of the tree, and the rough milling, could also be done by hand. It will take forever and ever tough, but if you are not in a hurry that is not a problem.
Modern is great as long as the lights don't go out. Oh and i'm sure you have to sharpen the monster planer, how long would that take? Either way good stuff……and thanks for the video!
superb. keep awesome Vids coming!