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Taking Suboxone With No Tolerance | IT MESSES PEOPLE UP FOR DAYS
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2021
- If someone accidentally ingests suboxone please call poison control - 800-222-1222
This video is vital education about what will happen and the effects of taking these substances without a tolerance and without medical supervision.
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I'm not an opioid guy, so when I ate a sub, I got the best ab workout of my life because I puked every 30min for 24 hours straight!!
Same!!!
I failed over and over on Suboxone....trying to taper from 4mg or 2mg down to 0 in 10-14 days. After day 7 or so when id get down to .25mg id wake up sweaty, cold and depressed and run to get something ASAP. This time Im taking months to go from 4mg to 0. Currently at .5mg. Dropping 10% every 10-14 days. SLOOOOOOOOW for the win! We got this! Update:; I slowed the process down was patient and I'm currently 4 weeks free of Suboxone
How is it going?
You got the right idea, but you did go too fast. basically after 2mg, it is insanely harder imo. You can easy go from 8 to 4, then to 2, but seems after 2, go much much slower. I was reading at the .25mg-.5mg range, you can basically go to 0 when you are stable. And dose every other day, or every 3-4 days, it's "mostly placebo" (whatever that means).
@squigglemyniggle4420 got .25mg for a few days, got majorly depressed and took Tia for a week. Went back on subs at 6mg.. next day, 4,then 2, .gonna do 1.5mg tonight then slow it down. I hate this
@@Christ4Life777Addiction effects three areas of life, physical psychological and social. Suboxone allows these all to heal. Dependence is different. Not all dependece is bad. That kind of social shaming is what leads many people to use harder drugs
It is a drug that can and should be used indefinitely by addicts. That is the issue. Trying to come off the drug is unnecessary, and it reverts the brain to seeking a full agnonist receptor high i.e. the initial stages of withdraw from harder drugs taken before Suboxone.
Taking the prescribed dose is the best solution. If a patient feels they need more of this drug they need 1. A dose increase 2. An improvement of psychosocial health 3. Both.
When the dose reaches that person's personal celing, then only the psychosocial conditions can be improved.
In summary, your lack of education leads to you shaming and advising, when you have no business doing either.
Jesus is not a replacement. Religious hallucination activates parts of the brain similar to morphine, and anti-depressants (excessively).
25% reduction is a limted case-specific approach for emergency inpatient tapering. Stop spreading misinformation. The receptors are not "healing" That is not how neurobiology works.
(Sources: Diploma in Modern Applied Psychology, Counseling, Neurobiology at Stanford and Pharmacology + Pharmacokinetics, side gig at 18 was PBCT so I have roughly 17 years of experience)
Great for you. People are in a hurry to get off of it but, you really should be under a doctor's care. Diane
I was a fool to romanticize heroin. Every single author or musician I ever loved had a addiction to heroin and as a fool I ended up trading a cocaine addiction for heroin. I was 23 years old. I treated heroin as my girl, but for everything I ever gave her she only returned pain and torment. I been arrested twice, I have a criminal record, I lost two girlfriend to my addiction. I'm gonna, be 40 this year so I say half my life I've been addicted to heroin. I've kicked heroin cold turkey each. The longest I ever been clean is two years, but I relapsed in 2020, now it's 2022 and I'm kicking cold turkey again. I just got to take it one day at a time and if I feel like using I just remind myself of all I've lost. I hate heroin. I hate it because I know it haunts me, with a snap of her fingers I fall to my knees. That's why I keep on going and hopefully this will be the last time I kick. Four times I've failed, I got clean and then relapse and then again and again. So yeah I gotta man up and take care of My sister and mother because that's all I have left. That's all the family I've got left and I gotta make it up to them. Because I can't fail again. It's gonna be hard I know but I'll never let that monkey jump back on my back again. For anyone who's ever lost a brother or sister or mother or father to heroin, I'm sorry. Heroin takes the people we loved too soon. I've lost four friends to heroin. I've o.d. many times and I actually stopped breathing once. I'm still here and it's for a reason I guess. So heroin the thing I want to say to you is good fucking bye. Your hurt so many and taken so many lives from all of us. I ashamed of the fact I fell in love with you, I'm ashamed that I put you first instead of my family. No more. If anyone has an addiction still, I pray for you. I know how much it hurts the withdrawals and sleep less nights. But what's the point of living if you're numb to the world. Pain is living, life is hard and cruel.... but I gotta keep going and keep at it until the day I die, until then I'm gonna live my life the way I should of been living it... happy and heroin free.
I’m so sorry I hope your doing well now 🙏🙏🙏♥️
@@misscortez6621 still sober and moving forward. Thank you the kind words
I've fallen down recently. We just got to keep getting back up. It's what we've done before. We can do it again. Prayers yo 🖤
i’ve lost more friends than i can count before their 25th birthday to heroin. even an ex gf which was bittersweet. nobody else understands losing so many peers and friends as a young person besides addicts & war veterans. it’s a tragic thing but i make sure to live and stay clean to honor their memory
Never give up.
Great videos and info, helps me understand a family member of mine. You are truly living in the solution of your recovery. Thank you!
Thank you so much lily!! I hope many family and friends can get a better inside picture of what is going on with their loved ones
Thanks for videos!! Currently in recovery and theses videos truly help! Keep up the great content!❤
Due to multiple spinal surgeries, I was on prescribed opioids ( many different ones ) for almost 20 years. Now I am on a moderate dose of suboxone
( 4-8 mg ) daily. I will say due to the effects of taking pain meds for so long that suboxone has helped me start feeling normal again.
Thank u. I’ve heard about the withdrawals from suboxone and I’m currently on it. It has helped me get away from pain pills and meth. I’m really worried about coming off of it because of the withdrawals but I would love to be completely sober! Even though I don’t get high from subs and it just makes me
Feel normal. I’d rather feel normal off of them
Be Careful Suboxone Ruins your teeth like in a year you will have NO TEETH llok it up theres a million dollar lawsuit for people who take suboxone
Ironically years before my addiction I took less than a quarter of a Suboxone and it made me violently ill for about 18 hours straight, I thought I was dying. I didn't feel well for days after that.
Same with me 😞
Same!!!
Maybe precipitated withdrawal ?
Sounds like the naloxone threw you into instant withdrawal from something else yesterday were on....
Was in high school had a hookup for subs recreational. Me and 3 of my friends took it. 2 of us loved it and 2 of us hated it. Just depends on your brian chemistry. I would get sick as shit and then feel even more amazing/high. It completely depends on the person.
I'm a Medical Doctor and I am impressed with your knowledge about some of the nore nuanced effects of this drug. Indeed, lower doses can act on receptors and potengiammalmost as
So like I just recently have been treated with subs and what I noticed is I don't get a glow or high like I used to with methadone I honestly prefer the subs than the methadone because for me the subs help me be productive and give me energy to do whatever it is I'm doing at the moment.looking back at the time I was on methadone I remember just coming home and nodding out and not getting crap done plus the methadone had me craving nothing but junk food I hated it .
Yeah I switched from Methadone to subs. I don't nod off while on the subs like I did on the Methadone.
Been sober on suboxone and budlight for 10 years
yay
I’ve always wondered if methadone is stronger or not, either way 🎉🎉 good job Gabe
How long have you been smoking bird
Damn bud you’ve been on subs for 10 years? I’m starting my sobriety journey as we speak and I’m in disbelief of how bad the withdrawals are
@@TheNastronaut get on the subs. It's better than the dope
I was taking little small pieces after I relapsed because I was not tryna go through the withdrawals. Literally just a little piece was enough to get me through everyday. One when I wake up and one a hour before bed. Thanks to these I’m able to sleep. I can now go days without it but sometimes my mood is affected. Better than the shakes and depression I’m used to getting from withdrawals tho lol. Only downside is the constant constipation I sometimes go days without shitting even with laxatives.
Thank you for this it gives me hope further down the line. Constipation is the bain of my life 😢
I eat tamarind candy and I go lol
The constipation is the best part
@@hman962 just remember it doesn’t last that long now I’m off suboxone and several months clean wouldn’t trade it for the world finally feel like I got my life back
Did you know that your opioid receptors in your gut are the only ones that never get tolerance? It doesn't matter how much of an addict you are. You'll always get constipated unless you get sick. I saw a video on it. You can never get over it.
Good job, man. It's a great video I liked it. I like what you're doing. And the information is very accurate. And I congratulate you in your progress in your recovery. Keep up the good work man
Got off fentyl patch 7 days ago w suboxone. Even tho stopped withdrawal symptoms. It gave me a headache and I felt weird. Last one was yesterday. Yay!!
This really gives perspective to how much an addict's body chemistry is different from other people... A dose that would just make an addict feel normal would make most people go through over a day of OD symptoms.
I'm on 2mg right now and it's odd to think that such a low dose for me is that powerful for the average person. All I'll say.
Yeah crazy isn’t, currently on 2mg buprenorphine taper…not really looking forward to the day but they offer smaller doses, fraction of a mg so I think go down that route
Exactly I'm on 4 MG half of an 8mg strip. If someone would take that amount they probably overdose
I am on 16 MG of subxone and I was on 50 MG of methadone and I still am not stable because I still get withdrawals. I get major headaches on subxone compared to methadone.
I was on methadone for 6 years and believe me and anyone reading this please please please please I beg you not to go up. I was on 95MG of methadone and I wasn't even a heavy heavy user. I only did morphine and not even heroine or fentanyal and I never injected, but these stupid doctors kept on making me go up and up to the point that my body got used to it. I can't tell you how much time it took me to go down to 50 MG and this week I just transitioned to subxone which isn't doing anything but I am being patient.
Because of the methadone I lost my job, my career, my life and now my body craves it all day long so if you are starting on methadone please don't go up any hire than 40 MG and subxone you don't need more than 12 MG.
This is a business for the big pharmaceutical and doctors. My life has been ruined because of this and I have never been more depressed, out of focus in my life. It would have been so much easier to come off morphine. Coming off methadone isn't that hard compared to what I heard how subxone makes you feel which is even worse.
@@sederquest I'm on 18mg
@@Runningblocker good luck, if and when you reduce your dosage give yourself a month to stabilise
I endured 6 major surgeries in a span of 3 yrs.Then pain management.Upon moving from Mt to Tn,I ended up in a place to stopped the withdrawals.Dr put me on these strips.3 at once.I didn’t know I couldn’t just stop.My daughter became a pill addict in high school and she along with her boyfriend were stealing my meds all the time.Lockboxes did nothing.When she got out of the Army she came to live with me.Still addicted and stealing my boxes of this.I ended up in a rehab again to stop withdrawing.She ended up in a cycle of in and outa jail.she’s sober and I’m coping .Your videos are so informative.If someone told me I’d be watching these a year ago ,I wouldn’t have believed them.Yet,here I am .She at one point had a heroine addicted boyfriend and that’s when she began taking all of my prescriptions.We don’t talk it’s a year now.I miss her.She hates me and I don’t know how to fix it.Any advice?
Wowowowow that’s so much river for sharing all that. It’s crazy how addiction comes into our lives in so many ways and we never expect it. Never
I am 4 weeks clean off heroin. I went cold turkey and I stole from my mother and sister to keep my fix. I did awful things, but they have a love for me that this is like my fourth time kicking heroin, but this time I wanna make them proud of me. I understand you love your daughter, but you gotta understand she's the one who has no right to be angry at you. But please try your best to make contact with her. When I kicked heroin back in 2018, I lost my father and he never got a chance to see me sober and it kills me because I didn't get to say goodbye. I was living out of town trying to get my life in order and next thing I know I get a phone call from my mom saying my father passed away. I drove back into town for the funeral. I didn't cry, I was just lost. I was sober but he didn't get a chance to see me sober, please just try to make contact with your daughter because no matter what she's done she's still your daughter, but she has to make the choice to get clean for herself. If she's still using then try your best to get her help. If she doesn't want to do that and if she doesn't want to talk to you, then you just let her go, turn your back I know it sounds mean, but if she doesn't care for you or at least try to make things better, I'm sorry. It's how it goes, my name is Mark and I am a recovering heroin. Every day it's a battle but for my family I'll go through hell and back for them. And I know you don't know me , but I just want to tell you that you are loved. Your daughter will come back to you. And if you ever want to talk about anything I'll listen, I understand addiction and I understand the pain I put my family through. Just don't give up and you'll see.
Hi RiverB it is up to your Daughter to change her ways of living.....I would suggest you write a letter outlining this to her and that you will not tolerate or enable her destructive addictive behaviours. That you do love her and that you hope she walks a straight line. Until then you can't trust anything she or the others in her life make up to get money or assistance from you or others.
Just curious but if she was an addict stealing ur subs why didn't u just take her to the doctor to get her on a subvoxen program
Yes, count your blessings that she hates you, and get to Alanon until you can Love yourself. Please don't be treated like that. This is coming from someone that's been there.
LOL oh my God. I was counting out my suboxone and this guy tho was drunk grabbed one out of my hand and put it in his mouth. I screamed spit it out. He started laughing, then he fell back on the couch and his eyes rolled back in his head. I never have seen anyone so sick in my life. I did call an ambulance, they said he was a frequent flyer, and left. Didn’t take him. Don’t ever take someone else’s medication.
Exactly what this guy said. Vomit, tried to work on job stuff using a computer and totally brain dead, drank water puked it up, hell on earth, hated it. Never again.
Every time one of my friends says they want to try one of my subs and that they can handle it I say you would beg for mercy!
Coming off suboxone was by far the hardest period of my life. It’s been over 2 years and I sometimes still have withdrawal days. I honestly would sue over the pain and agony that particular drug has put me through.
Any lower back pain?
@@anthonygonzales7210 as a matter of fact yes. Definitely lower back pain.
When i got out of buvidal, i couldnt feel ANYTHING. They actually had to call me and ask if i forgot i was supposed to get it 2 days ago. Buvidal is very very good.
I'm tapering now. Trying to get stable on 1mg.
My head hasnt felt right since I been off for 2 years. No energy
Thank u so much for this video
Ive been on Suboxone for about 12 years now! It has saved my life but I've also detoxed cold turkey in jail 2 times and it was the worst withdrawal I've ever been through. I mean horrible. I was up for 9 days straight from the insomnia it gives you. I'm down to 12 mg nowadays.
Similar it did save my life 15 years ago when I first was given it and I did start living a normal life I thought I'd finaly found the answer ,since then I've relapse and been back on it a few times and got off again' I'm back on it now down to 2mg twice a day I'm functioning and keeping a normal life but I think it's what's causing all my ibs constipation type issues and want off it again
12mg is a shit ton. Down to? Wtf. More than 12mg doesn’t even make a difference. Hell even 8 for some people.
@@boofingenthusiastwhat do you mean? I’m on 16 mg have just started recovering from more than a decade of opioid use, daily use, they keep leveling me up. Does it not work any better the more you take it?
@@danhurley6152you’re the first person I heard speak of the constipation and it’s a real problem. Suffering through bouts of constipation is a nightmare with the use of buprenorphine. Even small doses. My doctor recommended Miralax which is a laxative with softening properties as well as taking regular stool softeners. That seems to help, give it a try before you do damage to your bowels!
how is your health?
Thank you for helping more people than you know💙💐
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember the 1st one I took. It was a corner of one. I was mowing the lawn at 6 am.
😂😂
The first time you take one, it's like taking an oxy. But never again. You never get that speed buzz from it again.
Heard that brother
You my friend have the opioid gene Stay Away from them….
First time I took it I was sick for 3 days vomiting with nausea and couldn’t do anything.
BRAVO YOU NAILED MAN
Hey dog. This is john I went cold turkey on fentynal it's been 97 days clean. I took 4 mg my first time cuz shine said it would help. I felt like I was burning from inside out. It was the worst feeling especially just coming off fentynal. Stay sober. John
Keep it up Yea it can be nuts taking it that first time. 97 days that is incredibleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Keep it up John that is a huge accomplishment and fent is brutal
I hope you’re still doing good and success with it!! I’m proud of you
Before I was an addict, and only occasionally took Vics, Percs, stuff like very very rarely. But once back then I took the exact same thing you said lol, "the stop signs" took one of those, and I was completely fked for days... I even couldn't even piss for 2 days oddly. It was the most horrible thing ever lol. Wasn't even an enjoyable high. Now that I'm an addict, and unfortunately am on Suboxone, and have been sober from Opiates for 7 years, I'm on Subs every day, and they do nothing for me, except make me feel like a normal human being.
They do mess up your urinary tract, don't they? I can never quite finish taking a piss. And it makes you numb down there, too. Messes with erections, etc. I know a girl who said it made her numb down there. That's the worst part.
I’ve been on for 6 years now… I’m about to stop thank God I found a doctor to help me get off of it … it’s ruined my testosterone production and life seems gray and dull
I took my 20mg each days since few years... I'm in excellent program in Canada.
My friend after 3 years he's now at 2 mg. I'm proud of him. Of us.
Anything over 8mg is a placebo and does absolutely Nothing
@@nicholasmehler9662 Yes. I heard about this too. I'm at 16 now. I can do 8 but only one day... I tried 12 but at one point it's cold sweat but nothing compares Cold Turkey!!!
Thanks. I believe you but also, each person react differently to the dose... it depends of what was your dependance/ tolerance?...Oh well... Thanks anyway!
Great and solid video.
Good ol memories buffing during visitations eh. And your week should fly by easy
Ive been on suboxone for 5 years now definitely a life saver in my case.
I took it with no tolerance and MANNNN
I SLEPT for 3 days straight!
did you lose weight?
@@creamycrypto5782 idk
Lol!! I had an opioid tolerance, I thought it was a pretty healthy tolerance. But 4 MG of suboxone knocked me on my ass for 16 hours straight! It was bad! Not a "fun" high at all!! Never got sick, but dam... I was fuuuuuged up!! 😂
yes!!!! I a million percent agree. My doctor messed up on my suboxone medication and I had to wait 4 days to get it fixed and today it still wasn’t fixed. I’ve been on suboxone for 5 years and this is the first time in 5 years I’ve been with out it for thing long! I’ve never been so sick in my life!! It feels like my bones are being crushed and im sweating out all the water in my body. Well I couldn’t take the withdrawal so I had to pay $80 for 4 freaking tablets. The relief I felt about an hour ago is like when I took it for the first time. My head is spinning and I feel out of it. This was a reminder to never go back to pain pills. I was a mess for 4 days and it’s been 6 YEARS since I was this sick. This stuff if not a joke!!
How many mg daily were you on when they messed your prescription up & you had to quit cold turkey?
This is why I got off subs sick of the refill process
It’s the easiest of its class of drugs to withdrawal off
@@alexnico3028 have you gone through it yourself?
@@Toretto_the_pup What’s this?? Suboxone withdrawal yes and methadone plus heroin many times
I use to buy them when i first started using and half one would have me knodding two days straight. I got hoocked on opiates as a teen Now i take 3 a day and have been prescribed them for past 7 years. Im not one of those people who says im clean because im on subs. Its definitely a drug and im dependent on it but It shure beats being on street drugs though.
I have never heard anyone describe suboxone like you ever i have taken it now for over a year never got sick never got angry for no reason never was messed up for days I am now functioning fully working 80 hours a week bought a home a new car being an amazing mother of 2 teen girls
Did we watch the same video? He said IF U HAVE NO TOLERANCE
The most inaccurate description of Suboxone I've ever heard! I don't know what subs you took but that wasn't my experience and I had no tolerance.
That's cuz ur fuckin high lol
Did you understand the video? He's talking about people with no tolerance. Not junkies who can handle it.
@ChaneVazquez-rx2dy it works differently on different people. For example, I don't get percipitated withdrawal if I take one right after taking an opioid drug. I know of others who are the same way. But some people? They'll be seriously sick if they mix them. A weird drug.
This video made me laugh so hard thank you 🙏🙏
Nunca me he puesto enfermo tomando suboxxone.
He redudido de 4mg/dia a 0.5 sublingual, algún dia lo pasé mal, ultimamente los sintomas son muy leves.
El suboxxone es muy adictivo así que cuidado!!
Ive taken it with little to no tolerance and yeah worst feeling ever, now that fent is in everything I found myself with a really bad dependence on opiods…currently on a subox program and they make feel nothing but normal, crazy to see how my tolerance skyrocketed in about 4/5 yrs
Same
In 2006 i was taking up to 30 Norco a day (the guys at the SOS meetings called me a lightweight) so in January i saw a physiatrist looking for Suboxone. He told me new York State only allows 16 prescriptions at a time, so i had to wait. I got myself clean spending the whole summer on my couch unable to eat or sleep, sheer hell. Finally in October i got approved. By then i was feeling better so i started drinking so i thought the subs would help me keep from drinking. I took them as prescribed but went off of them by the following January because i didn't really like them and didn't really need them and felt no withdrawals.
Good video!
Glad you enjoyed it jay man
Thank you , I’m on 25 hrs n still feel sick and weak , I can’t even get up for more than 3 mins , I have to lay down
It looks like u got clean around the same time as me. Oct 17 2023. I know how you feel. It felt like I was treading water for a month. How are you now?
are you still clean? any update??? that's awesome man :D. congrats on getting sober. I withdrew for 18 days off fent. Like, day 3 feeling for 18 days. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy
I remember the first time I took Suboxone. It was in 2011. I hadn't had any opiates for I think around 2 weeks, I took 2 mg and then 30 minutes later another 2 mg. I was feeling pretty good and then about an hour and a half after I dosed, I started projectile vomiting. From what I remember the vomiting was kind of uncomfortable but any other time of the day or that night I felt amazingly high off the Suboxone
If I did opiots a couple hours ago and took it would it make me sick
If you take suboxone after using opiates I promise you will never do it again lol. It will be hell for you. It's called precipitated withdrawal it will push the remaining opiate off your receptors and make you intensely sick.
@@connerstauffenberg9267 thats called turbo withdrawl
you would go into precipitated withdrawal instantly, so yeah you’d get sick. and not even the good kind of sick, the bad kind
@@trashketchum9782 I hadn't had any opiates in 2 weeks, it wasn't precipitated withdrawal, I was just super high. If I had been using opiates a lot more recent than yeah it would have been precipitated withdrawal but that's super uncomfortable, I was very comfortable for the most part
This is like me every day without Suboxone 😅 I've been talking straight buprenorphine Belbuca and switching to Suboxone. I hope it helps manage my pain better. Belbuca is great for about half a day and then the pain is back. Maybe because i don't separate the doses enough far apart. Anyway. Thanks for the video!
I was at 12 mgs for 2 years and never felt that way with them accept for pounding headaches, then last year every time I took it my heart would start racing, very scary, I had to drop to 2 mg in a week and now am having a hard time tolerating that
How can I get my doctor to up my dose from 8mg to 12mg
@Drew H yes you can. I am on 16 MG but I was taking methadone at 50 MG and still I go through withdrawal. They said because of the high methadone dose I might need to go upto 32 MG of subxone.
I was on suboxone for about 15 years. I shot it for about 10 of those. I took it right for the last 5 years and quit. Lucky I didn’t really mess my body up. It was messed up.
Such a waste y bother fuckin arms up
I also shot subutex for a decade. Got no more veins
I was given lozenges for pain by pain specialist
I had minimal tolerance to opiates as they don’t give them here unless you have a gun shot wound . I know what an OxyContin buzz is like , I had been taking on occasion
5 mg oxycodone
I could function on a 5 mg oxycodone and relieves pain
But no
I was an experiment
I felt so ‘
Out of it ‘
Not drink but
‘Off my face ‘
Not a nice feeling
Nodding off , could not walk a straight line , knocked in to walls
It’s hard to explain but you are doing a good job
I have POTs
Doctor knew and it gave me postural hypotension
I felt Sweaty and Ill and it was worse than any opiate
I almost fell over
I told specialist
‘ I am not your experiment or a government case study
Give opiates with care when people like me have acute pain
BUPE did not suit my body chemistry . I could not get off the couch I was so groggy , weak in muscles
The first time I took it I was in withdrawal and it completely got rid of the withdrawal and it made me high as a kite for hours until I got used to it. When I'm in the hospital they usually take me off it until I get out of the hospital and when I go home and go back to it again for about a week it will make me high as a kite.
This is all definitely true i took it with bo tolerance multiple times and everytime it had me feelin sick to my stomach. I was high but i couldnt even enjoy it because i felt so sick and it lasted for days i hate suboxone.
I’m currently on a quarter 8mg one with some naloxon in it. I have no tolerance I did codein pills like a month ago and benzos a few days ago but not much opioids at all. Idk if this has anything to do with it but I take Kratom twice a day 2.8 gs in the am and 2.8 in the pm. If anyone has the go on suboxone and Kratom lmk. Anyone heard of unwashed poppy seeds and pods? Got the morphine still on em and etc
@@kalebmarrs1057 i am on suboxone to get off of kratom. I was taking 100 grams of kratom a day for 4 yrs. I would literally go through a 250 gram bag within 3 days. I take 2 and a quarter strips of suboxone a day and only feel normal. I was so miserable going through the withdrawals for kratom. Doctor actually said for some reason chronic kratom users actually need a higher dose of sub than a reg opiate user. She didn't have an answer why, just that seemed to be the case most of the time. I feel so much better physically just after 3 weeks of no kratom. That shit really takes a toll on ur body and nervous system if taking in large amounts and for extended periods of time.
@@ethanwestbrook9853 i rlly don't understand how people can take so much kratom for so long . I like kratom been doing red Sumatra vain for a while but kratom gets diminshed effects so fast and gets extremely boring . I never even knew it was physically addictive cause i did quite alot still for some months not even the slightest withdrawal Besides a little sweating . So how you take so much for so long ? Is it for pain or something ?
@@kalebmarrs1057 So you’re on Suboxone for the sake of it not cos you’ve had a problem with opioids opiates
No I was never prescribed subs my friend was and he didn’t need them anymore so he gave them too me. In my opinion it’s better then being thrown away and I’m clean now but I use to abuse opioids now I take Kratom and havnt touched any opiates sense
Great video~!
Thank you Mike!!
Had individuals take "some" if theyre in pain, and its hard to describe how it will effect people who aren't like myself.. even with doses smaller than a milligram it really fks people up immensely.. often making them feel worse.
So weird to me that it messes people up. I went on a high dose to begin with from a short relapse but it didn't do much except ease withdrawal and stop cravings. Which is all I needed it to do. I would worry about non opioid users abusing this and then eventually doing full agonist opioids.
That’s a good point. Do you think your body was still accustomed to some opioids and that’s why it didn’t effect you? Or you had some from the relapse?
Same... but with subutex
Wym bro? I was clean for a while but I had a relapse where I used for 2 days maybe half a gram of fent but I stopped after 14 hours of my last use I wasn’t sick sick but not feeling 100%. I am thinking about taking subutex cuz suboxone doesn’t work for me. Is my relapse enough to put in PWD if I take subutex at 14 hours?
This is finnish problem.. many youth is hooked up on suboxone, theres No heroin in finland
Same. I went on a 14 month 150-200mg a day prescription (by my doctor) oxycodone run before I decided I needed real help and couldn’t do it on my own. I go to an incredibly well put together clinic with a medical staff, psychologists/therapists. They prescribed me 16mg (2 x 8mg) every morning and I simply feel exactly how I felt before addiction, no withdrawals/cravings, but no high, which is awesome. I can’t understand when drug users, especially opioid users, say that
An active opiate addict who takes subx when not in withdrawal will have horrific consequences: immediate, full withdrawal. No amount of opiates will help you out of that one, except father time. The naloxone will block any opiate from entering the receptors. It's worse than imagined.
You can do about double your normal amount of opiods and it will push the blocker off your receptors
@@bennett420316 is thag 100% true bro?
@@chazbayley Yes from experience I know
Omg, the other night my mouth was dry so it wasn’t absorbing right, I layer down in bed and my husband kissed me. I tried to stop him but it was too late, he woke up so pale sick he stayed home from work and he never takes off work for anything. He is twice my size and it took him out.
I've worried about this with my wife. She has never even smoked a cigarette, much less taken opioids like me. It'd be the kiss of death lol
Just goes to show u how strong these meds are. Glad he’s ok.
This sounds like bs unless his tongue was way in your mouth for awhile
Along time ago a friend gave me one and told me to only take a sliver of one. I laughed and took half of the strip. I was barfing for days. That was the worst feeling ever.
Bro I was on Opana’s when I ran out of meds my pain management Dr also had a Suboxone clinic. “No conflict of interest “?!
Anyway he put me on 2 x 8mg daily. Went to another clinic they put me on 3 x 8mg Daily that was crazy. I tried weening myself off.;, I’m currently at 4 mg a day. Soon to be 0! I had no relapse the entire time. I’m still in moderate pain and the sub’s do help . )
Almost forgot awesome video! Much love K-Rugs!
P.S. I once had my dog get one stuck on the tip of her nose. Talk about panic!!!!
Damn bro SO you were on 5 strips a day at one point? That's nuts and a ton to come off of it incredible your down to 4mg. I would have lost it if it was on my dog omg so glad nothing happened and you got it off. And they stick to anything wet.
I dont really understand i was able to get the best high out of suboxone with no tolerance. After the nausea and throwing up for the first hour, all of that went away, and it became very enjoyable. This was near the end of my 8 year benzo addiction.
How can I gets some to try
Assholes like you make me sick. How do you get some? Get hooked on opioids, fuck your life and you families lives up to the max, get really sick and go to rehab. That's how you get some to try. This isn't a fucking joke. It saved my life.
@Bigg Money don't try it man.
I would nod sitting upright I was on strip but I’m on pill form now. I nodded out standing up at work. I could hear everything going on around me even though it looked like I was out cold. The itch is horrible
I was never an addict but many years ago I dabbled a lot. Did half a Suboxone once. It made me completely lethargic, nauseous and I remember wishing I could sleep it away. But I was too uncomfortable to even sleep. 0/10 do not recommended for recreational purposes. It’s not intended for that and doesn’t work for it.
This is what heroin was like the first (and only) time I took it minus the long duration and throwing up... was nauseous though. The unpleasantness lasted about 12 hours. Didn't sleep at all...just laid there in a purgatory between conscious and unconscious. Ruined the next day, the opposite of fun.
Nothing like herion my friend. First time H use you throw up then have huge amounts of energy. Then nod out. Then eat sweet shit. Sub on tbe other hand you will be tortured for days.
That's why I'm surprised there's a huge opioid epidemic the drugs make some people sick
yeah but it’s different for everyone. some people get an every boost from opioids or feelings of euphoria, or both. those are usually the people who get hooked & do it enough to get sick if they stop
some people just hate it though. my gf is like that, she just got really sick after taking an oxy & never did it again in her life. she even refuses pain meds from the doctor. that’s why i’m glad to be with her as opposed to my ex who was also a heroin addict like me. there’s no way we would relapse together & if i got back on drugs she would make me go to rehab
@@trashketchum9782 I doubt it was heroin then.
Diacetylmorphine causes an immense amount of euphoria. Snorting it will cause serious nausea, although sometimes you have to do it multiple times to o heat the nausea…
Suboxone is NOT anything like that. You can’t compare the two.
Diacetylmorphine (HEROIN, God knows what street cuts you got), is a full agonist while suboxone is a partial agonist partial antagonist.
Suboxone at 16mg is nothing like herion bupe sucks compared to h unless your doctor gives you a massive dose without nalaxone
Suboxone never got me high sick or even gave me a perceivable head change at all. I've snorted it as well and that just seemed to make it kick in faster, but all it's ever done is stop withdrawals and at the very beginning it gave me a super slight mood boost
You dont snort suboxone my guy, just subutex
The nalox in the Suboxone breaks down more when you snort it that's why they tell you to disolves it under the tounge cause naloxone bioavailability is lower orally
@@bighungry4727 wait, so can you actually lower your physical dependency to naloxone if you snort it daily rather than take it sublingually?
@@bighungry4727 ???? So you are saying the naloxone breaks down faster if snorted
I know it sounds good in “theory” to all you keyboard gotta be righters, cos u read it on the package or the internet.
But yes you can snort it, I’ve injected it b4 and the naloxone did NOTHING you can smoke it also. Its not what its for as i am clean now after years and years on suboxone not a novice
Imprisoned they would sell 1/8 of a pill for $45 and because our tolerances were at zero we would be wrecked for like 3 days the first 24 hours are throwing up every hour for no damn reason yeah I do not recommend people taking this without a tolerance
I remember I was at a party yrs ago and was given a little piece of one. Maybe 45 minutes I was fucked. Up. I was. Actually driving I had to pull over for a while. It was. Bad.
Took this one time an half had me high as fool for couple days everything was real heavy like my eyes ny body
My tolerance is super high. I love how a strip feels after a couple days. I got off oxycodone then ate one 30mg blue and I was so nauseous I thought I was going to puke but a few years later I was snorting over ten blues a day. I've been on tons of opiates for many years.
@@alexnico3028 I was thinking the same thing? Bragging about tolerance is just lame.
Sad really
👏 👏 👏
Thats a good thing?
Yeah, I got crazy tolerance. It's nothing for me to snack on 20-30 blues a day while washing it all down with buzz balls or if I can get it lean. My friends always stare and say thing like "you're crazy" and my response is to use the stapler on my hand and show them I can't feel anything. It' so much fun when you don't feel anything and have amazing energy to sit on the couch and move in and out of sleep with that cozy blanket buzzing up and down. I saw someone take two blues trying to get cool like me and they started throwing up. While he was barfing I went over and told him in his ear... "you can't catch me I'm the thirty blue man"...man, never saw someone throw up and laugh at the same time before.
My boyfriend has never "abused" opiates, they don't do to him what they do to those of us that enjoy them. One day it had been about 30-45 mins since I had taken half a strip. We started kissing, for maybe 10 mins & I went to work. Later on I called him & he was sick as a dog. Said he felt like he was going to die & puking nonstop but didn't know why bc he was fine then BAM & had been that way for several hours. As the night went on & I was thinking ab him it just hit me, I made him sick 😭 I had ask him if he could taste anything when he kissed me not bc I thought it'd make him sick but bc it's nasty. He said no & I couldn't taste it anymore. So needless to say we don't kiss for a looooong time after I take it now 🤣 I told my group & they thought I was crazy & said no way.
See for me it was kinda like this but I was in a state of almost complete relaxation with periods of uncomfortableness that didn't last long at all
Back when i took pain pills and subs i had given a girl that only smoked weed i gave her a little corner piece and man when i say i was scared for her is an under statement. She threw up for like 5 hours straight. She went home and i didnt hear from her for 3 days. When she finally answered the phone on the 4th day i was like what happened? I was worried where have you been? She said that shit fucked her up for 3 days shes been high and sick as hell she aint never doing that again.
Man, my first opioid was suboxone. A longtime friend of mine, he's older, gave it to me. I'd been wanting to do oxy's for a while. He was a hardcore heroin addict that had already gone through the motions for years. I remember I did a huge favor for him once ( I think I got him money for a fix and didn't ask for it back) and he gave me like an 1/8th of a strip or less.
I was like wtf is this? acid? He was like "take it". Man, this was the day after a hurricane had passed, everything was destroyed, we had been working for hours and I felt fairly tired. When I took that, 30 mins in, I felt like superman. I had never felt euphoria like that in my life. I went and I was working like a fucking machine. Everybody was like "damn, what got into you?" I was like "I just love helping" lol.
Then I smoked a cigarette.
God fucking damn. I have NEVER had a tastier cigarette, except when I did my first 30 and 40 OC.
I was nodding off for HOURS AND HOURS. But I also felt a little sick on top, but the euphoria was so overwhelmingly goood. And the itch, ugh ❤️🩹
I regret every single fucking day of my life swallowing that strip.
Sounds great ,never regret anything,life's too short 😮
Dude that’s exactly how I tried suboxone the first time. Guy didn’t have any real opiates so he sold me the orange hexagon sub pill. I got so damn sick…and then I did it again and again thinking I was getting blasted when in reality i was just facing od symptoms and puking my guts out. Shit lasted 2 days sometimes. And that was with 1-2 mgs
Yea I did the same. I just snorted one line and felt ok that night but was sicker than I had ever been the next day.
Same here . my junior year in high school. Snorted half an orange stop sign pill in the gym locker room and was projectile vomiting for hours after
A full 8 mg made me feel so bizarre, almost like a bad psychedelic trip, strange body effects like I was 3 feet tall when I would try to walk, felt like Mario. And everything had a bizarre 1980s feel to it. Time slowed down . Impossible to describe. Subs only feel good when you take it daily as prescribed. And it doesn’t have a cap-off effect with huge doses like you said.
Keep ahad brother
The reason you were jacked up is bc you probably got precipitated withdraw from it if you still had slam in your system.
He was pretty specific about not being on anything for a week. This happened to me before becoming a user and also the same effects with precipitated withdrawal. I HATE SUBOXONE. Happy for people that like it but I personally can NOT do it but am here cuz my probation officer is making me start on it in 10 days
When I was in high school, this girl I knew gave me some in the bathroom. About 2 classes later, I was half falling asleep and half vomiting all over the halls. I went home and was sick for a week with the “flu” couldn’t keep anything down, my head was pounding. It was awful and I’ll never forget it. I don’t even think she knew what it was, and that’s why kids need to be looked after, especially now 😳
Good golly take the trolly it kept you ill for A WHOLE WEEK? I bet that was miserable I wouldn't have taken any of my friends bathroom pills again after such an ordeal!
Wowowow. That sounds exactly like it happened to me. Glad you got out of it. That’s brutal. It is awful right Kids def need to know for sure
Odd makes me feel good 🤷♀️
I had that experience with Methadone pills when I was on percs....thought they weren't working and ended up on 5 of them.....I was high for 2 good days & still woozy the 3rd
The ceiling effect is at 4 mg not 24 mg
Instant addiction that what happened and when you cone off it after years of being on it. Your done out here !!!!
Anyone use suboxone to help them not drink alochol?
no offense brother, but it’s painfully obvious, (no pun intended,) that you haven’t had an addiction to opioids. i’ve never experienced subs the way you’ve experienced them, because when i took it it was coming off fentanyl and the only thing it did for me was level me out and rid me of withdrawls. of course the first hour or so always feels relatively euphoric and you get a nice energy boost, but the best part is you don’t crave any opiates. i used to sit there and purposefully think about doing fentanyl or something and not feel any desire to do it. in fact, in the beginning being on suboxone, i would still hang out my old friends i “used with”, while they were using and it didn’t bother me too much. anyways, im off all of it now, including subs and honestly the first few weeks coming off the subs were pretty hellish mentally, but after about a month or so things got sooo much better. i just look forward to normal sometimes mundane things and enjoy my life the way it is without relying on something every single day.
did you not read the title of his video?
God bless bro. Life gets so much better when your off everything!
He’s talking about people who don’t use opioids. Like the title says
But that’s great to hear about how you’re doing. Awesome
I used to be on 3 strips of 8 a day plus a monthly sublocaid injection that makes 24mg plus 10 mg a day for the sublocaid
I’m on 32 mg a day still have pain wish I could get back on morphine but the state government has blocked me from getting it prescribed so i now need 4 strips a day at 25$ a week 50 a fortnight at my chemist as i am in Australia it’s not a drug store here
You have heard of microdosing right that's what they suggest especially if you're in withdrawal they also suggest to take the opiate and the Suboxone at the same time and reverse over 3 to 7 day period
I was in rehab with a kid that didn’t have an opioid dependence, but other addictions. He told them he did, because he wanted all the drugs he could get during detox. Ive never seen a harder nod in my life, and I ran with full blown junkies for years. It was unbelievable. A lot of people were really pissed because they kept giving them to him.
I was SHOCKED at the nods in jail from this. Also, they were doing the suboxone shot which is really really strong also!!
the only time i had a bad reaction to subs was when i was drinking on it one night, not thinking that those two combined can be dangerous, i remember having very hallow breathing and pain and discomfort in my chest and my shoulder
I was off opiates when an old friend came into town. He was on suboxone and all too happy to share with me. I couldn't believe how strong it was. I literally could shave a tiny bit of orange powder off the edge of the pill... tiny, tiny amount, maybe 1% of the pill, and it'd be hard not to accidentally get too much and puke. I've been terrified of that drug since. My friend gave me only 1 or 2 pills. After getting extremely high every weekend for a couple months, I had to flush it down the toilet. He might as well have left me with a kilo of heroin; it felt like an endless supply and was about to catch me again.
I honestly don't know how anyone could take a suboxone strip or tablet by accident! Not only do you have to dissolve it under your tongue for at least an hour...that $hit tastes like actual poison! The strips are worse than the tablets, but both have a taste to them that makes me think of licking a toilet in a gas station bathroom...or deciding to take a sip of Drain-O! Maybe spraying bug killer in your mouth! It's awful!
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Mine dissolve in a few mins lol
That's cap Bru. It doesn't take an hour to deslove, calm down kid
I think at the beginning when you start taking it, you don't feel well. Then you put that in your mouth and you kind of gag. But have patience, it only takes a couple of minutes to dissolve. Sometimes with the pills, you have your mouth clamped down and your mouth is dry. Get some saliva rolling in your mouth. It helps. Diane
@@orlandojohnson-gu4kqyeah word my 8mg daily dose literally takes 2-3 minutes to dissolve, I always take it after drinking water so it dissolves faster and that
I'm currently on 24mg Subox. True about the ceiling, but it is the only thing I have for my chronic pain.
I'm on 16mg and have chronic pain it doesn't do anything. Do you feel high at all?
@@randle9422 >>> A GREAT question ! 😁 I have found (i've been on & off over approx 16yrs) right around the 3rd month taking Subox, my body gets use to it & all I feel (at this point) is a very small sensation of soothing sway 🤗 NOW, I was scripted 16mg/Day up till 3 wks ago. My chronic pain has just about crippled me, i've lost mega lbs & the Dr see's that I look like the walking dead. 🙄 He jax me up to 24mgs/Day, which in the very beginning of the treatment I was scripted. I have found these conclusions:
1: When your body gets to accustomed to taking Subox, you either have to take 3 or 4 days off any kind of opiates (Subox vacation).
2: I then take the three 8mgs Subox films all at the same time. I have found when you reset your body's tolerance (as much as you possibly can), this is the time to jump back in & hopefully the body's tolerance doesn't remember.
3: Even tho my Dr's orders specify I take a strip thru the day, I take them all at once. I desire that soothing sort of Euphoria that the Bupenorphiene gives me. I remember a time where I had been clean for a few weeks, then I took one strip. WOW, I was on the Highway almost falling asleep. I was sooo relaxed. So, it doesn't give you the 'punch in the gut' high. More like a wonderful soothing type Euphoria. 😌
For chronic pain I would like to recommend a lower dose of 8mg once every 12 hour. my doctor did it for my extreme back pain. but I did 4mg every 12 hours. and he told me lower doses help better with chronic pain and doing it ever 12 hours really does help. anyways this is just my own opinion. I hope you feel better eric! oh so yeah your doctor was doing the right thing. but if you're just looking for that high. then it won't be ass effective for pain. it's trade off I guess. reguardless goood luck to you my friend!
@@beesod6412 suboxone I don't like the taste the half antagonistic feeling I'm switching to methadone suboxone is making me sick I'm spewing every night
Actually really low doses (under 1-2mg) works best for pain due it acting more like a full agonist opioid where higher doses are a full on partial agonist. Edit: but if you have a history of opiate use this is less likely to happen.
They put me on it for my back pain on Monday I have some what of a tolerance and I am sick as heck it’s wensday
2 WEEKS OF THROWING UP I CANT HOLD WATER INSIDE MY STOMACH IM SICK ASF FEEL LIKE IM DYING
How much are you taking usually they over prescribe
I sniffed the smallest line ever , like an inch long, tiny and was in my mates bed with my friend that took it with me and was being violently sick for 24hrs - 35hrs and was horrible, brutal
Are you addicted to opiates or indulge at all ?
My buddy was on suboxone for oxy addiction.
Out of curiosity one time, he gave me a piece of a strip that was literally a third the size of a hangnail, comically small.
I was rocked for 12 hours straight, puking, itching, and shaking, stuck on the couch.
For perspective, he would take a whole strip before his shift at the coffee shop.
Wild shit.
Yea for real. That’s nuts
There's nothing strange about that. Tolerance makes an enormous difference. I take Methadone, 110mg. I barely feel it but it would be enough to kill for sure one person with no tolerance, possibly two if it was divided evenly. Knowing that can feel pretty strange when I think about it. Its things like that though, that make drugs so fascinating to me.
Lmao
sounds about right lol
Suboxone would be great of they used it as a 5 to 10 day detox program. Start with one and lower the dose each day to get through the withdrawals
You have to let your "feel receptors" grow again in your brain. They have been shot down from dope. It takes time. Diane
They do that at a lot of rehabs and stuff. But the study literature has shown that for most people doing this will make the chance of relapse go way up. So I guess it’s individual. I can’t imagine a dr forcing a patient to not get off the stuff tho, at least where I live
That is not enough time, for your"feel good" transmitters to work properly. When you do dope, it shoots down ALL of your"feel good" transmitters and now in order to feel better naturally, they need to grow back. It takes months sometimes maybe a year or two. Be under a doctor's care when you are doing this.
I recently started buprenorphine for chronic pain therapy. I was on what I would call a moderate dose of 2 other opioids prior. So my tolerance wasn't zero, but it wasn't high either. The doctor prescribed me 8mg twice a day by using his conversion calculator. I knew I was switching, so I took some time to do some research prior to the appointment. I thought 16mg/day sounded like a lot, for me at least. I was expecting 4-8 mg/day. He did tell me to start with half and see how that went.
I decided to start with a quarter, so 2 mg. I don't think I could effectively cut them any further. But I'm glad I didn't decide to try the whole dose in one go. Even with my tolerance, that stuff just zapped me the first couple of days. I was nauseous and pukey the first day. And then just so sleepy (but not sleeping) for the next couple. Just like he described.
I'm several days in now, and I'm definitely not needing the full 16 mg/day. I've been taking 6-8 mg at most. It does seem to be an effective pain medication, at least for me. But yeah, those first couple of days were really something, even with the smaller dose. It's hard to say if the full amount would have hit me any harder, because like he says, it does have kind of an odd ceiling effect. It's like you reach a certain threshold where you just know that taking more will do nothing for you. Whereas other opioids will offer more relief or a better buzz, if that's what you're looking for. I don't know if that will change as tolerance builds or not since it's still early for me. But I'm going to try to stay low since I've heard it can be a beast to come off of.
Im currently on Suboxone (20mg/day) and i can visualize how someone, with no tolerance took that much in one go :D horrifying absolutely to think when finally have to taper off it...
You went through precipitated withdrawal is what that sounds like
That’s exactly what they went through. I’m a recovering alcoholic/addict but also a nurse. You don’t get “high” on Suboxone, you go into a stupor then the naloxone kicks in and you go into precipitated withdrawal.
Precipitated withdrawal is so brutal
My friend is on suboxone and he recently started taking more… he has been suppperrrr sleepy. Every time he sits down he is always nodding. I don’t know if it’s the subs or if he is using again.
Im not qualified to make this call but just saying Suboxone never made me sleepy and from what I remember everyone else at the rehabs said it gave them energy boosts as well. I have heard of people nodding out from buprenorphine but typically that only happens if you're new to the drug or if you take a significantly large dose, cause anyone on subs is already very tolerant to opioids and Suboxone is basically only like a half assed opioid. It doesn't fully agonize the receptors it's only a half agonist and it's a half antagonist. So yeah nodding is not possible for most people on it but it technically can happen
He could be adding a benzo in there with it Clonazepam Xanax or something?
It'll be the subs, I'm on 8mg, and started on 12mg and when I started, I'd take my dose and 2 hours later if I was sitting down it starts making me nod out, but after a few years on the program I don't get noddy no more, it just gives me a body buzz nd makes me feel good now
Am currently on suboxone for about 3 years now it's not that bad it's better than being on than all the fentanyl patches oxys benzos that I use to abuse do these strips dissolve in your mouth I was on the pill and switched over to strips
Being in a rehab that prescribed suboxone is what got me on it. I was so jealous of everyone nodding off. I thought it was only for withdrawal but nope. You can take that shit every single day. Unfortunately I get no effects from it anymore & the Dr’s answer is always “let’s higher the dose” I got up to 24mg & I got myself back down to 8mg a day again thank god.
I used to hate then when I was in rehab. I was the only one refusing it so every few days id go to the meeting, everyone on the group is off smack doing normal things like walking thete dog, going to the beach, walks in the park etc.. and im completely dying. One day in a meeting I freaked out and called everyone that they are all cheating with suboxone. Eventually I went on the withdrawals were too much
Wow. That's how I started taking it was through a rehab in San Francisco. Started out with two mg. I'm on 8 now. It really does help. I'm an alcoholic but I use Suboxone as a blocker,. It helps with my cravings and my PTSD from prison., but I can tell that my tollerenc for it is increasing
I been taking suboxones for a year and 5 months now. I take 3 a day. I have a very high tolerance for opiates.
👏👏👏Were you looking for a pat-on-the-back or something? Being on 24 mg of buprenorphine doesn't make you special lol in fact it's like the standard dose that most Suboxone docs prescribe the average patient unless you are coming off an absurd opiate habit. If I had a dollar for every time a junkie told me that they had the "mega" and only turned out to be like 3 to 5 grams of brown a day🙄 don't get me wrong that is an above-average habit and that happened to be mine 10 years ago when I was using but hell one of dealers would do such fat shots he had to use the 5ml syringes and his rinses would have me AND my friend completely nodded out before pressing 30 out of 80cc in. There's always someone with a higher tolerance in you and I always found a cringe when people say they have a very high tolerance because from what I've seen that the people saying that always had the lowest tolerance in the group lol
I got very angry/irritable when I was on painkillers for years
Especially if my tolerance was too high and I didn’t receive any high from the tablets
Just sat there thinking of all the wasted tablets I should’ve saved for later when my tolerance had hopefully dropped a bit
This is so accurate . First time I tried suboxone I had a mild opioid tolerance. Dude busted a tiny line down in which I laughed saying “this ain’t going to touch me “ so he gave me a bigger line (maybe a little over a 1/4 of a pill). An hour later life turned into the exorcism and I was projectile vomiting for hours and was so dizzy . I literally was messed up for 3 days ….years later I became addicted to them . Your tolerance never really builds with them like other opioids. You can do a 1/4 piece and be fine all day . Very tough to come off though . Wds aren’t as harsh as the other stuff , but they last significantly longer . Took me 10 days
Snorting Suboxone?… is that actually a thing? That sounds incredibly stupid.
Some people shoot it that left my jaw on the floor how TF u fix that up is beyond me ...I have friends in the pen and when they received one strip they micro dose it but in the fuckin eye!! WTF could possibly be next..?!
@@johnboi6916 when i was active i used to shoot it too. But it was pretty much pointless. Ur truly best off just eating it in any form. 🤷🏻♂️
Addicts do crazy stuff lol
@@J_GoTTi yea that's just too far people experiment with ridiculous ideas and waste money or someone could have used it when I got it off the st (traded for a bar,) I told o grl I'm trying to STOP shooting up and her response was " oh u can. Shoot up Suboxone just dissolve em in water..." Like did u now hear me I know she did but fuck Suboxone any precipitated withdraw is the worse shortish but intense withdrawal... benzos are bad but replaced or tapered and it can be done humanely but there is our part where we must stay awake for a week as a price u pay and sleep deprived hallucinating is a method of torture to this day... Hope whoever thinks of trying or doing it again... doesn't ...I'm no1 to talk but sometimes we gotta man up bc I need to face the fire I started myself...
@@J_GoTTi Chasing that dragon huh lol hoping for some kinda buzz I understand my tolerance is so high it doesn't do shit to me anymore my ex GF mentioned something interesting stating people get addicted to the process of shooting up....I kinda understand...does that make sense to you??? Hope you are clean and good luck 🙏🤞
@@johnboi6916 it does make sense, i am clean, and i absolutely appreciate you my friend! Been clean ten years-ish now! Opiate. Started with pills from an injury then when they cut me off went to heroin. A very popular story apparently. A good percentage of opiate addict like me start the exact same way. But i sincerely hope you and yours are doing good! Wish yall the best. You don’t know how refreshing it is to talk to another successful recovering addict who appreciates other’s success and are open to speaking on the topic.
Buprenorphine is a partial opiate. Suboxone adds a naloxone as a kicker for the other opiates/opioids, which is an opiate overdose remedy. If you haven't tried opiates/opioids, 2mg of Suboxone will get you very warm, almost full opiate high. 4mg max for first time users at first. If you do 8mg right off the bat, you will puke your brains out. And yes, the high is very long but usually involves very little to no withdrawal. Now, long term use you will have withdrawals after quitting cold turkey. It has a half life of 4 days, so if you've been using it like I have for 8 years, stopping without a ween off will result in horrible, almost impossible to tolerate withdrawals.
@jimmyf9545...Not sure where you got your info but it's terribly inaccurate. The half life of suboxone is 24-48 hrs. Not 4 days my friend. Bup is a partial agonist that helps with the withdrawal of opoids, naloxone (narcan) is an antagonist that "caps" the euphoric feelings. If a person takes it correctly it works....if they take it incorrectly....well you get the picture.