Great video. I was glad to hear you speak about the differences. For myself, vinyl is the way for me. Yes it is more involved, but is the process is very relaxing. As for the sound, your findings are exactly what I found to be true. This was spot on because streaming strengths are exactly what you stated. At the end of the day it’s about the music and how the listener enjoys it no matter the source.
So happy to hear you articulate the different modes of listening and how different devices and mediums support each. I move between vinyl, CD and streaming. I like them all. I even listen to FM radio! Talk about old school…
Good video. I grew up in the 70's where vinyl was the best there was and we recorded onto reel-to-reel tape decks at 3 and 3/4 speed to keep sound quality losses to a minimum. I wore out a Roberts reel to reel which I kept because it still looks so cool. I still have my Fergus Fons turntable with a Shure V-15 Type IV cartridge on a Mayfair tone arm and my collection of albums from the past (no scratches) which I listen to when I want to focus on an album. Otherwise, I listen to music streamed from my phone to my system, which being a music nut, I do enjoy.
I think digging through my vinyl collection, cleaning the record, and listening to it is an exercise in mindfulness. Not so much when listening to digital audio. Btw, sweet shirt. Fight On! ✌🏽
Good analysis. Sounded very unique and personal. I think digital and analogue compliment each other I. A lot of ways. So much easier to explore music on digital and if you love an album you make it more personal with vinyl.
Vinyl is an experience, getting up from listening spot , put the LP on get back to chair, fondle the LP sleeve reading liner notes, enjoying the art work, while absorbing the warm music, quite different from the Digital music comes from streaming or CD with harshness or brightness...What I do is, embracing the technology, I RIP all my OG vinyls to FLAC and play those FLAC rips through a stand alone schiit DAC, to hear the same warmth with no digital harshness or brightness ( placet effect? no idea, if yes or no, I am Happy) without getting up from the listening sweet spot till the whole album is done, no interrupt ions , still fondling the LP sleeves, ...no cleaning inconvenience...no worry on wearing out the Vinyl....all good happy ears, my ears, my room , my happiness.... however I encourage everyone's take on Vinyl or CD..it's ur ears, ur room, ur system, ur happiness.
I THIINK A LOT OF COMES DOWN TO HOW THINGS ARE MASTERED. Things that were mastered in the analog world are going to sound different than something that starts out as a digital file I remember when CD's first came out some of the discs were dreadful because people didn't understand what it takes to move an analog recording to digital, as time went on they learned and things got a lot better. Today there are a lot bad recordings because some use things like auto-tune and compression are used without regard to the music. I have a better digital setup than i do a turntable but some analog records just sound better on the turntable than they do on my PS Audio DirectStrean DAC and transport. That said at 75 it's easier to sit in my chair and select one of the thousands of tracks I have on my computer (or the millions I can stream) then to get up and change a record. In the end I think it depends on the track and your mood.
I liked your review and the story behind it. I also like the way you explained your preference to digital vs analog. Both have their place in a home hifi setup, its just a matter of opinion. Sometimes I'm in the mood for vinyl and other times I just don't want to mess with it. I do have a question about your amplifiers. I recently started back into the hobby and I'm having trouble getting the right sound. I'm considering PS Audio m700 monoblocks. I switched from a mid-fi Denon integrated amplifier to a QSC professional amp just as a test. My Legacy Audio Focus 20/20 speakers like the extra power so i ordered a set of brand E's best differential reference monoblocks 1000wpc into 4 ohms. I had them boxed back up and headed back to the manufacturer the next day. They were bright and harsh in the midrange and would go into protection mode when the system called for BIG bass "I was listening to Creed "Human Clay" CD. Listener fituge set in very quickly. What are your thoughts on the PS Audio class D amps? Are they as good as PS Audio says? There is a trial period, but if they're not what I'm looking for then I don't want to order them.
Thanks for writing in! :) Always a pleasure to interact with a fellow nerd!:) So I only meaningfully did A/B with a Mcintosh MC152 (on loan) which is about twice the cost of the m700. And a bit of casual A/B with my Marantz AV. which funny enough is about half the cost of the m700. The speakers were my B&W 805 D3's which are super power hungry. And not the best stereo imaging at lower volumes :( but that's another story. The MC152 is much more exciting low-mids especially than the m700's. But the m700's were clearly better than my Marantz AV, which was straining to deliver enough power at moderate volumes. To be fair, the m700's were being driven by the Stellar PRE and that seem to really pair well with the m700's. M700 seem to definitely have like endless power. But again, not as exciting as the MC152. But faired better and just smoother than the budget AV box. Also, the m700 seems to be a bit fickle about the PRE that it's being driven by. When I paired the m700 with another Marantz pre, it was a little noisy. So I'm not sure what was happening but it's possible there was some impedance issue? Anyway, I would say the m700 is neutral, powerful mono-block that can drive pretty much any speaker. Not as exciting as MC152, but certainly better than your average off the shelf AV box with seemingly endless power. Hope this helps?
Vinyl’s only place today, is where it hasn’t been made available on CD. The aesthetic looks & use are attractive to those who like it. Along with a myriad of cartridge design choices. But it’s a modern counter-culture product, producing half the dynamic range of digital, & the ever-present surface noise bugs. No amount of remixing of the master recording will eliminate its shortcomings😭🙈.
i know it's partly taste, but you have a lot invested in your stereo equipment. doesn't that make you a little biased? and imo digital is better, due to the "resolution" of materials you are working with. vinyl material is larger then the sampling rate of a good converter
I would say I do have a lot vested but equally vinyl and digital. Also, yeah I agree there’s no way to remove bias completely unless you do double blind tests, probably? But even then, with imperfection in vinyl probably would be a give away. I want to also emphasize that my conclusion ultimately was that I “preferred” vinyl over digital, and not that it was “better”
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE Double blind tests really don't work for comparing audio equipment. You almost always have to customize the test to make it fair and yield accurate results.
Great video. I was glad to hear you speak about the differences. For myself, vinyl is the way for me. Yes it is more involved, but is the process is very relaxing. As for the sound, your findings are exactly what I found to be true. This was spot on because streaming strengths are exactly what you stated. At the end of the day it’s about the music and how the listener enjoys it no matter the source.
Thank you for stopping by! :)
So happy to hear you articulate the different modes of listening and how different devices and mediums support each. I move between vinyl, CD and streaming. I like them all. I even listen to FM radio! Talk about old school…
Thanks for sharing! Awesome!
Very thoughtful video. props for using PS audio components.
Good video. I grew up in the 70's where vinyl was the best there was and we recorded onto reel-to-reel tape decks at 3 and 3/4 speed to keep sound quality losses to a minimum. I wore out a Roberts reel to reel which I kept because it still looks so cool. I still have my Fergus Fons turntable with a Shure V-15 Type IV cartridge on a Mayfair tone arm and my collection of albums from the past (no scratches) which I listen to when I want to focus on an album. Otherwise, I listen to music streamed from my phone to my system, which being a music nut, I do enjoy.
What a great story! Thanks for sharing
Listening to my 70’s records with 1600mk2 , will outlast me,lol. Fight On ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼
I think digging through my vinyl collection, cleaning the record, and listening to it is an exercise in mindfulness. Not so much when listening to digital audio. Btw, sweet shirt. Fight On! ✌🏽
Good analysis. Sounded very unique and personal. I think digital and analogue compliment each other I. A lot of ways. So much easier to explore music on digital and if you love an album you make it more personal with vinyl.
Thank you for stopping by!
Vinyl is an experience, getting up from listening spot , put the LP on get back to chair, fondle the LP sleeve reading liner notes, enjoying the art work, while absorbing the warm music, quite different from the Digital music comes from streaming or CD with harshness or brightness...What I do is, embracing the technology, I RIP all my OG vinyls to FLAC and play those FLAC rips through a stand alone schiit DAC, to hear the same warmth with no digital harshness or brightness ( placet effect? no idea, if yes or no, I am Happy) without getting up from the listening sweet spot till the whole album is done, no interrupt ions , still fondling the LP sleeves, ...no cleaning inconvenience...no worry on wearing out the Vinyl....all good happy ears, my ears, my room , my happiness.... however I encourage everyone's take on Vinyl or CD..it's ur ears, ur room, ur system, ur happiness.
Great thoughts! Thanks for sharing
I THIINK A LOT OF COMES DOWN TO HOW THINGS ARE MASTERED. Things that were mastered in the analog world are going to sound different than something that starts out as a digital file I remember when CD's first came out some of the discs were dreadful because people didn't understand what it takes to move an analog recording to digital, as time went on they learned and things got a lot better.
Today there are a lot bad recordings because some use things like auto-tune and compression are used without regard to the music.
I have a better digital setup than i do a turntable but some analog records just sound better on the turntable than they do on my PS Audio DirectStrean DAC and transport. That said at 75 it's easier to sit in my chair and select one of the thousands of tracks I have on my computer (or the millions I can stream) then to get up and change a record.
In the end I think it depends on the track and your mood.
Thanks for sharing your insights!
I liked your review and the story behind it. I also like the way you explained your preference to digital vs analog. Both have their place in a home hifi setup, its just a matter of opinion. Sometimes I'm in the mood for vinyl and other times I just don't want to mess with it.
I do have a question about your amplifiers. I recently started back into the hobby and I'm having trouble getting the right sound. I'm considering PS Audio m700 monoblocks. I switched from a mid-fi Denon integrated amplifier to a QSC professional amp just as a test. My Legacy Audio Focus 20/20 speakers like the extra power so i ordered a set of brand E's best differential reference monoblocks 1000wpc into 4 ohms. I had them boxed back up and headed back to the manufacturer the next day. They were bright and harsh in the midrange and would go into protection mode when the system called for BIG bass "I was listening to Creed "Human Clay" CD. Listener fituge set in very quickly.
What are your thoughts on the PS Audio class D amps? Are they as good as PS Audio says? There is a trial period, but if they're not what I'm looking for then I don't want to order them.
Thanks for writing in! :) Always a pleasure to interact with a fellow nerd!:) So I only meaningfully did A/B with a Mcintosh MC152 (on loan) which is about twice the cost of the m700. And a bit of casual A/B with my Marantz AV. which funny enough is about half the cost of the m700. The speakers were my B&W 805 D3's which are super power hungry. And not the best stereo imaging at lower volumes :( but that's another story. The MC152 is much more exciting low-mids especially than the m700's. But the m700's were clearly better than my Marantz AV, which was straining to deliver enough power at moderate volumes. To be fair, the m700's were being driven by the Stellar PRE and that seem to really pair well with the m700's. M700 seem to definitely have like endless power. But again, not as exciting as the MC152. But faired better and just smoother than the budget AV box. Also, the m700 seems to be a bit fickle about the PRE that it's being driven by. When I paired the m700 with another Marantz pre, it was a little noisy. So I'm not sure what was happening but it's possible there was some impedance issue? Anyway, I would say the m700 is neutral, powerful mono-block that can drive pretty much any speaker. Not as exciting as MC152, but certainly better than your average off the shelf AV box with seemingly endless power. Hope this helps?
Great video. You made me get out my original pressing of Purple Rain and drop the needle.
It’s a damn fine record!
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Vinyl’s only place today, is where it hasn’t been made available on CD. The aesthetic looks & use are attractive to those who like it. Along with a myriad of cartridge design choices. But it’s a modern counter-culture product, producing half the dynamic range of digital, & the ever-present surface noise bugs. No amount of remixing of the master recording will eliminate its shortcomings😭🙈.
Great review
Thank you!
Push your lossless files through a GOOD DAC before they hit your speakers.
I like to copy my mp3s using USB1 for this vintage sound.
i know it's partly taste, but you have a lot invested in your stereo equipment.
doesn't that make you a little biased?
and imo digital is better, due to the "resolution" of materials you are working with.
vinyl material is larger then the sampling rate of a good converter
I would say I do have a lot vested but equally vinyl and digital. Also, yeah I agree there’s no way to remove bias completely unless you do double blind tests, probably? But even then, with imperfection in vinyl probably would be a give away. I want to also emphasize that my conclusion ultimately was that I “preferred” vinyl over digital, and not that it was “better”
@Nicholas I’ll remember to note the importance of how vinyl was pressed and the mastering process on both digital and vinyl versions.
@@DUNGEONMUSICTHEATRE Double blind tests really don't work for comparing audio equipment. You almost always have to customize the test to make it fair and yield accurate results.
Vinyl is far superior
Umm I agree sonically but I was trying to make a point that other digital mediums are more convenient and that’s a good thing :)
Vinyl is the worst of them all