Hi sir, highly informative. So, i have several questions that needs your input: 1) if i have an indoor filter already, ie; e-spring, would it be alright if i were to use a gravel filter instead? Since per standard, gravel filters have capabilities to filter particles up to 5microns, what are the possibilities that my indoor filter will be affected by the remaining impurities? 2) Understand that malaysia's water pressure is around 60-80psig (4~5 bar), at what point does it fall to a certain pressure such that the filter will not function? how does a low pressure at P1 inlet affect the backwash capabilities of the filter? 3) Usually, from my understanding, it is best for outdoor filter to only filter out sediments while maintaining the chlorine in the water so that bacteria will not propagate in water tanks/storage. With membrane filters, the filtration of 0.01micron will remove the chlorine? 4) if my outdoor filters are fitted well.. outdoors, will it be prone to thieft in due time? i saw how easy it was to unscrew a filter manually.
1) Sand filters work between 20-40micron, and most indoor drinking filter will be filtering down to 0.2micron. Without an outdoor filter, the dirt/sediment will be exhausting your indoor filter. If the installed outdoor filter failed, the chances are small particles and impurities will be flowing into your indoor filter, decreasing the lifespan of your cartridge. 2) I can’t clarify this, but I have seen sand filters still working well at 2~3bar. However, if the filter beds are stucked/congested with dirt/sediment without periodically backwashing, this might cause less water output. 3) Only those outdoor water filters, with “activated carbon” are able to “reduce” the chlorine level. I found some useful information here: How to Remove Chlorine from Water? a. Reverse Osmosis water filtration systems that incorporate carbon block filters are an effective way to remove up to 98% of chlorine in water. ... b. Heating up water to a boil will speed up the chlorine removal process. 4) It is possible, as one just has to cut off the connected pipe lines and remove the sand filter. Again, it does require 2 persons to carry it. So far, this case is rarely. Please share me your thoughts, so we can learn together as well.
Hi sir. Where should i put my outdoor water filter by step : incoming water from provider -> outdoor filter-> water pump or, Incoming water -> water pump -> outdoor filter. Thank you in advanced
You may check out brands like 3M, Bacfree, Blondal, Puregen and many others. 3m: www.ewarehouse.my/index.php?route=product/search&search=3M%20water%20filter Puregen: www.ewarehouse.my/search?search=Puregen Ecowater: www.ewarehouse.my/search?search=ecowater
Tq for this informative video. 1.Recently I found my freshly machine -washed towels trapping a lot of very fine pinkish grains of what feel like sand and some bit of fibrous matter. My outdoor Waterman sand filter is almost 30 years old.😅 Is it possible that the sand might have gotten into my washing machine and got deposited on my towels? 2. What would happen if I accidentally rinsed and then only backwashed my Waterman instead of the other way round? Would greatly appreciate your reply. TQ.
Hi there! Very informative video! I have a question, what if my outdoor water filter pressure gauge display a lower pressure than usual? Is that indication of anything?
1. if the water gauge is located at incoming (most common), there might be a drop in water pressure supply by service provider. Please observe for few days, as this is very common during service maintenance and water interruptions.
Hi Sir. If pressure gauge on the filter showing higher readings than usual meaning that the filter is dirtier/semi clogged right? But this doesn't mean that the whole piping system is now under higher pressure is it? Just piping before the filter (after the pump) and the pressure after the filter is actually lower than it usually is?
Please have a check. Usually the pressure gauge is located at the outgoing or after the water filter. Meaning, this will be water pressure going directly into your house.
Hi. I wanted to install cuckoos outdoor water filter but was told that their standard of at least 20psi was not met. My reading at the time was 13psi. Any recommendations on which water filter should i get so that my water pressure flowing into the house would not be “lessen”? Or it is fine that i proceed with installing cuckoo. Hope to hear from you
nice content, seen many video installtion is from after meter. My house is 2 stories and top of hill, water preassure from the government supply to my tank is very weak and the water is not clean. I have a waterpump from my tank to boost the water into my house I want to install the filter after the waterpump from my water tank. I believe i will have cleaner water. Will the filter can stand the preassure from the waterpump to the filter.
Yes, as more and more dirt and sediments trapped in the sand beds. I would recommend to use just one, and periodically backwash to keep the water flow optimal. Meanwhile, I am going to introduce a water pre-filter in my upcoming videos. Please stay tuned. This device definitely will solve your 2 water filter system.
@@ATKCeWarehouse current Brunei is having a water crisis. Due to manganese. My house have this sands filter plus a membrane filter then when it reach my home there a 3 bottles filters before coming out from the sink. Water stoll brown🥲
@@ritch90 Firstly, please lodge complaint to your authority on water quality issue. 2nd, please ensure that you have periodically replace the filter cartridge.
Hi, thank you for this video. I want to ask because the store employee said it is not advisable to use fiber material tanks at the outdoor at sunny areas. It is recommended to use stainless steel tanks. Is he right? Or should I just buy fiber tank? My area only sell fibers, and stainless steel needs to be shipped. Thank you.
My opinion: Since these water filters are labelled outdoor, regardless of fibre or stainless steel, it should be able to withstand weathering (rain or shine).
When doing backwashing, please allow 5-10 minues outflow while switching to rinse mode in between. Backwashing should be carried out at least once a week.
In water purification, activated carbon removes impurities and contaminants through the chemical process of adsorption, which include removing chlorine.
@@ATKCeWarehouse Sir, thank you for your feedback. I'm planning to install a water storage tank too, so if chlorine is removed, wouldn't it promote the growth of algae/bacteria in the tank?
@@cedricchinable9626 I believe that there will be still a little fraction of chlorine or fluoride or any minerals (at the safest level) after the outdoor filtration.
@@ATKCeWarehouse sorry to revive an over a year comment. Does the activated carbon parts in the filtration media will deplete in its properties and finally gone?
I enjoy your videos, they're very informative. In yr opinion, which is a better filtration media for an outdoor water filter? Membrane or sand? Trying to decide between the 3M model vs other sand-type filters. Would love to hear yr feedback. Thks!
@@mintan2484 Most of the membrane filter, is a "one way street", which must be discarded after certain period of usage. I do found that there are washable type, but again, washing doesn't guarantee the original conditions.
@@ATKCeWarehouse But, membrane filter will reduce the water pressure. Since we have indoor filter, sand filter should be enough since its filtration is about 5-10micron.
I have a question,why my house water flow is getting slower after installing the outdoor water filter. And how i can change the water flow back to normal because slow water flow is a drag zzz.
Thank you for your inquiry. Can you forward the message to our support team at support@ewarehouse.my together with pictures of your water filter. Thank you.
Used for 1 year now.. no regrets ... rm570 replacement cost is small price to pay for clean water. 5 Micron was the selling point for me. I have a Coway RO water machine which require less maintenance since pre filtration is done.
My water filter's multiport valve has the following settings: Stop, Filter, Fast, Rinse, and Backwash. Please advise on what these settings mean. Thanks in advance.
Basically, Stop should mean that incoming water supply is blocked from entering the water filter. Filter means allowing incoming water supply and filtering process. Backwash, to reverse the water filtering process to flush out the dirt and sediments. Rinse, allow incoming water supply for rinsing. Use intermediately with backwash process.
@@ATKCeWarehouse Thanks. The weird thing is that the water flows at Stop setting, and stops at Filter setting. Made me wonder if the water is getting filtered. Anyway, thanks again for replying. Much appreciated.
@@ReallyOldDog Thank you for your feedback. My current water filter do not have the "Stop" setting. I would assume that this function will act like a stop valve.
@@ReallyOldDog To be honest, I can't confirm this. Let's say that with and without the sand filter will reduce the incoming water pressure by 5%, and over the time, the water filter will gradually decrease in efficiency (without doing periodical backwashing) in term of pressure by another 3-5% percent per month. By 12 months, we should be expecting 50% decrease in performance. Anyway, this is purely my assumption.
Hi there, Do you recommend having two outdoor filters installed for better filtration. Any leftover from the first filter would be filtered by the second filter.
Hi after I do this steps Normal Filter -> Backwash -> Fast Rinse -> Backwash Why do I still get brown water after I do this? Do I need to repeat the steps until backwash is clean before moving it back to Normal Filter? Thanks in Advance :)
It depends on the quality of the river water, which mostly suppose to be "clean" and with "mineral". You may use the outdoor water filter to filter out the dirt and sediments.
Hi sir, highly informative. So, i have several questions that needs your input:
1) if i have an indoor filter already, ie; e-spring, would it be alright if i were to use a gravel filter instead? Since per standard, gravel filters have capabilities to filter particles up to 5microns, what are the possibilities that my indoor filter will be affected by the remaining impurities?
2) Understand that malaysia's water pressure is around 60-80psig (4~5 bar), at what point does it fall to a certain pressure such that the filter will not function? how does a low pressure at P1 inlet affect the backwash capabilities of the filter?
3) Usually, from my understanding, it is best for outdoor filter to only filter out sediments while maintaining the chlorine in the water so that bacteria will not propagate in water tanks/storage. With membrane filters, the filtration of 0.01micron will remove the chlorine?
4) if my outdoor filters are fitted well.. outdoors, will it be prone to thieft in due time? i saw how easy it was to unscrew a filter manually.
1) Sand filters work between 20-40micron, and most indoor drinking filter will be filtering down to 0.2micron. Without an outdoor filter, the dirt/sediment will be exhausting your indoor filter. If the installed outdoor filter failed, the chances are small particles and impurities will be flowing into your indoor filter, decreasing the lifespan of your cartridge.
2) I can’t clarify this, but I have seen sand filters still working well at 2~3bar. However, if the filter beds are stucked/congested with dirt/sediment without periodically backwashing, this might cause less water output.
3) Only those outdoor water filters, with “activated carbon” are able to “reduce” the chlorine level. I found some useful information here:
How to Remove Chlorine from Water?
a. Reverse Osmosis water filtration systems that incorporate carbon block filters are an effective way to remove up to 98% of chlorine in water. ...
b. Heating up water to a boil will speed up the chlorine removal process.
4) It is possible, as one just has to cut off the connected pipe lines and remove the sand filter. Again, it does require 2 persons to carry it. So far, this case is rarely.
Please share me your thoughts, so we can learn together as well.
Hi sir. Where should i put my outdoor water filter by step : incoming water from provider -> outdoor filter-> water pump or,
Incoming water -> water pump -> outdoor filter. Thank you in advanced
Bye2 tu tak perlu kot😂🤣😂🤣
can you please list out the brand that is good that sell in malaysia. The link to buy is much better..
You may check out brands like 3M, Bacfree, Blondal, Puregen and many others.
3m: www.ewarehouse.my/index.php?route=product/search&search=3M%20water%20filter
Puregen: www.ewarehouse.my/search?search=Puregen
Ecowater: www.ewarehouse.my/search?search=ecowater
Tq for this informative video.
1.Recently I found my freshly machine -washed towels trapping a lot of very fine pinkish grains of what feel like sand and some bit of fibrous matter.
My outdoor Waterman sand filter is almost 30 years old.😅
Is it possible that the sand might have gotten into my washing machine and got deposited on my towels?
2. What would happen if I accidentally rinsed and then only backwashed my Waterman instead of the other way round?
Would greatly appreciate your reply. TQ.
I do suggest you change a new filter.
Hi there! Very informative video! I have a question, what if my outdoor water filter pressure gauge display a lower pressure than usual? Is that indication of anything?
1. if the water gauge is located at incoming (most common), there might be a drop in water pressure supply by service provider. Please observe for few days, as this is very common during service maintenance and water interruptions.
Hi sir. May u suggest the ratio in KG the 5 layers media?
Hi Sir. If pressure gauge on the filter showing higher readings than usual meaning that the filter is dirtier/semi clogged right? But this doesn't mean that the whole piping system is now under higher pressure is it? Just piping before the filter (after the pump) and the pressure after the filter is actually lower than it usually is?
Please have a check. Usually the pressure gauge is located at the outgoing or after the water filter. Meaning, this will be water pressure going directly into your house.
Hi. I wanted to install cuckoos outdoor water filter but was told that their standard of at least 20psi was not met. My reading at the time was 13psi. Any recommendations on which water filter should i get so that my water pressure flowing into the house would not be “lessen”? Or it is fine that i proceed with installing cuckoo. Hope to hear from you
You may consult Cuckoos on this. But how about installing a water pump?
Hi after the filter, I added ceramic filter, I can still see many sediment attach to the ceramic filter. Does it mean my outdoor filter not good?
Yes it does
Hi Sir, could you do review on how to build whole house water filtration system for river / well water? and suggestion item needed. thanks...
Thanks bro for your suggestions. I have no prior experience on this, but definitely will look into it.
Hi, bacfree outdoor filter claimed that no need change the media if conduct backwash frequently. Is that true?
Hi, I can't confirm this. Since bacfree is also an water filtration expert, you may refer to their terms of use/ warranty. Please let me know too.
nice content, seen many video installtion is from after meter. My house is 2 stories and top of hill, water preassure from the government supply to my tank is very weak and the water is not clean. I have a waterpump from my tank to boost the water into my house I want to install the filter after the waterpump from my water tank. I believe i will have cleaner water. Will the filter can stand the preassure from the waterpump to the filter.
you may try installing the water pump after the filter
Thanks
Hello. If sand all mixed, can the filter works. I wonder, because i lay my down my filter tank.
Usually, the filtration media came in compact, when the water flows in, the media will auto level back itself.
@@ATKCeWarehouse thanks for reply. in my case, the tank is not really compact and not full. its ok. But, if the media/sand all mixed. Can it works.
If the "mixed up" is not too serious, I believe that the water inflow will auto level back the medias.
@@ATKCeWarehouse thank you. 5 media filter can filter out chlorine or not. Can i use the filtered water for my pet fish in the aquarium.
Which reduces the main supply pressure more?
Sand vs Membrane?
I assume sand output better pressure due to higher microns
Depending on the amount of dirt & sediment stuck in the filter membrane as well.
I like your English....so enjoyable to listen 😄
Thank you.
hi guru- if i installed 2 of this before my water tank, will the water flow coming in gets slower??
Yes, as more and more dirt and sediments trapped in the sand beds. I would recommend to use just one, and periodically backwash to keep the water flow optimal. Meanwhile, I am going to introduce a water pre-filter in my upcoming videos. Please stay tuned. This device definitely will solve your 2 water filter system.
@@ATKCeWarehouse current Brunei is having a water crisis. Due to manganese. My house have this sands filter plus a membrane filter then when it reach my home there a 3 bottles filters before coming out from the sink. Water stoll brown🥲
@@ritch90 Firstly, please lodge complaint to your authority on water quality issue. 2nd, please ensure that you have periodically replace the filter cartridge.
A very good introduction about the main water filter. Thanks.
Hope that everyone understand the basic function of a water filter.
Hi, thank you for this video. I want to ask because the store employee said it is not advisable to use fiber material tanks at the outdoor at sunny areas. It is recommended to use stainless steel tanks.
Is he right? Or should I just buy fiber tank? My area only sell fibers, and stainless steel needs to be shipped. Thank you.
My opinion: Since these water filters are labelled outdoor, regardless of fibre or stainless steel, it should be able to withstand weathering (rain or shine).
Hi can you give your opinion if indoor filter is still needed when you have a outdoor filter already. Thanks ~
Yes, you still need a indoor filter. Outdoor filter will filter down to 0.5 micron, but indoor can further down to 0.2 micron, which is drinkable.
why is my tap water still yellow even after backwashing ? in fact before i did backwashing, the water was clearer 😅 please help
When doing backwashing, please allow 5-10 minues outflow while switching to rinse mode in between. Backwashing should be carried out at least once a week.
After backwash, the water is cleaned but later flowing water still yellow
Backwashing will not cleanse all the trapped dirt thoroughly.
May I why the water filtration system outlet pressure gauge reading is higher than inlet pressure gauge reading?
Can let me know the difference? and the reading as well?
@@ATKCeWarehouse
Inlet 33psi
Outlet 35psi
The water filtration system just installed last weekend.
(condo at level5)
I read that some filter media has activated carbon that claims to remove chlorine? Does it really work?
In water purification, activated carbon removes impurities and contaminants through the chemical process of adsorption, which include removing chlorine.
@@ATKCeWarehouse Sir, thank you for your feedback. I'm planning to install a water storage tank too, so if chlorine is removed, wouldn't it promote the growth of algae/bacteria in the tank?
@@cedricchinable9626 I believe that there will be still a little fraction of chlorine or fluoride or any minerals (at the safest level) after the outdoor filtration.
@@ATKCeWarehouse
sorry to revive an over a year comment. Does the activated carbon parts in the filtration media will deplete in its properties and finally gone?
I enjoy your videos, they're very informative. In yr opinion, which is a better filtration media for an outdoor water filter? Membrane or sand? Trying to decide between the 3M model vs other sand-type filters. Would love to hear yr feedback. Thks!
Membrane, however, it's more costly.
@@ATKCeWarehouse More expensive because the membrane filter needs to be changed yearly, right?
@@mintan2484 Most of the membrane filter, is a "one way street", which must be discarded after certain period of usage. I do found that there are washable type, but again, washing doesn't guarantee the original conditions.
Do I need to change the sand filter after more than 10 years?
It is recommended to change the layers of medium every 2 years, depending on water quality.
hello, my question is that water can be drinkable after filtration? no odor
No, we do not advise direct drinking after outdoor water filters.
Hi sir, which is better brand sand water fliter? Marlino or aqueous
Go for membrane filter.
@@ATKCeWarehouse But, membrane filter will reduce the water pressure. Since we have indoor filter, sand filter should be enough since its filtration is about 5-10micron.
Such an unfortunate name. Good content though..
hahha....thanks though.
Is cuckoo filter good? Cos inside is different
I have no comment on cuckoo at the moment :)
I have a question,why my house water flow is getting slower after installing the outdoor water filter. And how i can change the water flow back to normal because slow water flow is a drag zzz.
When was the last time you do filter backwashing or replace the cartridge?
@@ATKCeWarehouse The water filter is just installed for like a week. And i haven't done anything to it yet. Any ideas is appreciated
@@scuze__ Do you have a pressure gauge installed? You can compare the difference, and identify the issue.
@@ATKCeWarehouse Yeah,it comes with the water filter
@@scuze__ How's the reading?
Hi - is membrane filter better or sand filter is better
Theoretically, membrane filter is better than sand based filter. But it also depends on the type of membrane filter.
@@ATKCeWarehouse May I know, is 3M AP902 is membrane filter type ?
@@yanchengcheok You may find more detail information here www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/company-my/all-3m-products/?N=5002385+3294464571&rt=rud
Hi.. do you offer media replacement service? I have a 12 year stainless steel outdoor filter which I think requires media replacement.
Thank you for your inquiry. Can you forward the message to our support team at support@ewarehouse.my together with pictures of your water filter. Thank you.
@@ATKCeWarehouse thank you. I already emailed over the details.
@@netnoob77 Thanks
@@ATKCeWarehouse just received reply from your customer service. Turns out your company does not provide this service.
What is the difference between 5 layer filter and 7 layer filter?
Commonly available in the market is using 4-5 layers of medias. The extra medias has difference functions depending on its properties.
Great info.... went with 3M AP910R Filter
Used for 1 year now.. no regrets ... rm570 replacement cost is small price to pay for clean water. 5 Micron was the selling point for me. I have a Coway RO water machine which require less maintenance since pre filtration is done.
Thank you!
@@bloomingbead1716 Thanks for the sharing!
Which outdoor water filter brand do you recommend to purchase ?
There are many brands available in the market. Please go thru their product specifications, warranty and definitely pricing.
@@ATKCeWarehouse price?
@@rencoboy364 Please refer to www.ewarehouse.my
The best advice for this topic.
Thank you.
My water filter's multiport valve has the following settings: Stop, Filter, Fast, Rinse, and Backwash. Please advise on what these settings mean. Thanks in advance.
Basically, Stop should mean that incoming water supply is blocked from entering the water filter. Filter means allowing incoming water supply and filtering process. Backwash, to reverse the water filtering process to flush out the dirt and sediments. Rinse, allow incoming water supply for rinsing. Use intermediately with backwash process.
@@ATKCeWarehouse Thanks. The weird thing is that the water flows at Stop setting, and stops at Filter setting. Made me wonder if the water is getting filtered. Anyway, thanks again for replying. Much appreciated.
@@ReallyOldDog Thank you for your feedback. My current water filter do not have the "Stop" setting. I would assume that this function will act like a stop valve.
@@ATKCeWarehouse by the way, how much reduction in water pressure is expected when using these sand filters?
@@ReallyOldDog To be honest, I can't confirm this. Let's say that with and without the sand filter will reduce the incoming water pressure by 5%, and over the time, the water filter will gradually decrease in efficiency (without doing periodical backwashing) in term of pressure by another 3-5% percent per month. By 12 months, we should be expecting 50% decrease in performance. Anyway, this is purely my assumption.
tqvm! for sharing this information.
My pleasure!
Thank you
Welcome!
your shop location bos?
Banting, Selangor.
how to contact u bos?
@@andakmohd6220 Please email to support@ewarehouse.my and leave me a note. Thanks.
Where can I get this STAINLESS STEEL MPV. kindly share
Go to my website at www.ewarehouse.my
Hi do you provide sand change services ,if not can you recommend a company that does ? Thanks. Very good channel.
Please email your inquiries to us.
Hi there, Do you recommend having two outdoor filters installed for better filtration. Any leftover from the first filter would be filtered by the second filter.
It's a good options, but I am worried too about reduction of water pressure. But, you may consider installing a pre filter instead.
Hi after I do this steps
Normal Filter -> Backwash -> Fast Rinse -> Backwash
Why do I still get brown water after I do this? Do I need to repeat the steps until backwash is clean before moving it back to Normal Filter?
Thanks in Advance :)
When you did the backwash, did you let all the brown water flow out till you reach clean water?
@@ATKCeWarehouse I did the backwash but it do not get clean after 20 mins.
@@victonxvixxxveriveryfanboy3887 rinse it again and redo the back wash.
@@ATKCeWarehouse thank you for your help, I found out from our Plumber that we have a complicated water flowing system. So we need to fix our pipes 😂
@@victonxvixxxveriveryfanboy3887 Thanks for sharing.
Can I use outdoor water filter to take river water?
It depends on the quality of the river water, which mostly suppose to be "clean" and with "mineral". You may use the outdoor water filter to filter out the dirt and sediments.